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vivicat

Selee wrote:

这样试试
00:35:984 (T) 改红线
再插根BPM 136 Offset 4258的
犀利哥哥大好人<3
updated
Abbak
vvvvv :)
Abbak
沒打星再來一次 :)
NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
难度/分数分布非常尴尬。主要体现在H的分居然可以比I高这个事上。经测试轻微调整难度系数无法达到改分的效果……所以最好有一套可行的方案
对于第一段的timing有一定疑问(基本一直在打早),但听起来没什么问题……最好找人复查

[Selee]
02:15:689 (4,5) - 这两个的sliderwhistle拿掉
02:33:778 (4) - 是不是换个朝向好一点?这样总觉得略有点误导义
03:16:351 (4) - 这个的结尾点。。。或许提前1拍会好些?

[Sandpig]
HP或OD其中一个拉低1,这样可以把分降下去不少,让整体分布好一些。另AR+1建议
01:17:895 (5) - 不和4对齐了么。。
01:24:954 (8) - sliderwhistle?
02:30:248 (3) - 这音的感觉是提前1/2放

[vivicat]
circle有些过多了,也是分高的主要原因。
01:16:792 (1) - 为什么这个没进入队形。。另外3其实和2没对在一条竖直线上
02:39:954 (2) - 这是不是重复有点多。。。
02:47:895 (5,1) - 这spacing大丈夫?
03:21:866 (1) - 不要折返。从03:23:410起弄一个1/4 三连结束

[LKs]
00:45:469 (5,1,2) - 这spacing实在太非主流了。后面还有一些,简单概括就是只要有一个new combo就完全无法由spacing判断这里的节奏。实话讲我不认为这是一件好事
01:07:748 (1) - 和前面接下来感觉还是要whistle,3倒是可以不要
01:20:983 (4,1) - 这种spacing...
02:46:572 (1) - 这个肯定给星数做出了很大贡献但不是分数。。
02:55:285 (7) - 还是扔到6和1中间去,而且之后也是这样的
LKs

NatsumeRin wrote:

[LKs]
00:45:469 (5,1,2) - 这spacing实在太非主流了。后面还有一些,简单概括就是只要有一个new combo就完全无法由spacing判断这里的节奏。实话讲我不认为这是一件好事 只要玩过一遍 这些东西就会印在潜意识里 如果不能投入到歌曲里..那就没办法了 这前一部分是我在特定情况下做出来的
01:07:748 (1) - 和前面接下来感觉还是要whistle,3倒是可以不要 额..这个是接后面了 一抑一扬所以后面一个有Whistle
01:20:983 (4,1) - 这种spacing... 所以AR降低之后这种感觉就很强烈了吧 :o 凭借approachcircle分辨不出来了
02:46:572 (1) - 这个肯定给星数做出了很大贡献但不是分数。。 额..偷懒什么的 你懂的
02:55:285 (7) - 还是扔到6和1中间去,而且之后也是这样的
Download: Sakamoto Maaya - 30 Minutes Night Flight (vivicat) [LKs' Night Flight].osu
Vass_Bass
Hi

Selee's Night Flight
02:13:704 (2,3) - little confusing i guess, remove returning slider
02:28:042 (1,2) - ^
02:56:057 (1,2) - if that diff like easy, that part is hard
03:06:866 (6) - new combo
03:07:748 (1) - remove new combo

Sandpig's Night Flight
(suggestion) 02:15:689 - add circle, and remove it - 02:15:910 (3)

Other diffs are good
Cute map
Star
Kite
Sorry for the delay ;-; been quite busy the last few days

[Timing]
I am sure this is just 1 timing zone here, the first red section is about 30 ms too late in offset and just using the 2nd offset (just place it at earlier point) would be fine.
Get a timing pro to check it though as I am not 100% sure about this.

[Selee's Night Flight]
01:27:601 - Add beat ?
01:27:822 (1) - Shorten by 1/2 and move 1/2 later?

Nice

[LKs' Night Flight]
00:57:932 (3) - 1/4 earlier?
01:17:454 - Add beat?
01:21:204 - ^
01:20:983 (4,1) - D:
01:25:834 - This break feeld odd, you could/should map it
02:15:248 - Why break? D:
02:22:307 - ^
02:29:366 - ^
02:37:023 - ^
02:46:572 (1) - This is just silly


Difficulty spread is great and the mapset is nice, I liked the diff [My Night Flight].
Great SB!
Topic Starter
vivicat
thx all,I decided to use the old offset...
lxy
maya :)
ziin
Well after playing this I was thinking there was nothing to fix, but looks like the storyboard's a little heavy.

The maximum size for storyboard items is indeed 800x600, however the storyboard area is just 640x480. I don't know for sure how osu handles it, but considering you're spending most of your time scaling an 800x600 image down to 640x480, it's somewhat of a waste.

These are just some optimizations you can do to cut down on SB load:
Why is 1.jpg always there? Bring it in when it's needed (at 18337), not at the beginning.
1.jpg is also scaling twice at
S,0,41278,43042,1.04576,2
S,0,41278,43263,1.04576,1.22176
Scaling like this really brings up the SB load, so I highly recommend a smaller image for the extreme zoom in

Why did you bring in 9.jpg at 35984? Bring it in when it's needed (at 42160). Stop it when it's no longer needed (at 116278).

Currently there are 2 spots which jump over 5.0 (not sure of what's rankable, but 5.01 is in red, so might as well fix it right?):
35984 (due to 9.jpg coming in, and scaling 1.jpg)
116278 (due to 9.jpg staying when it's no longer needed, also have cloud1.jpg, cloud2.jpg, 2.jpg, and 3.jpg)

As for the map itself, I can't find anything wrong with it, nor should I after so many mods. I can only say it's not my favorite mapping style due to the hide and seek nature of the harder difficulties, however, hide and seek is a game you should play at night...

A few skin suggestions, make the followpoint.png an animation with a twinkling star, feather the edges of hitcircle.png (ie, add anti-aliasing, partial transparency so it's not jaggy since you can see through hitcircleoverlay.png).

EDIT: I just found out the SB counter is wrong. Apparently it counts stuff which is off screen, even though the actual load does not. So a zooming image which shoots it up to 10.0+ is still fine, so long as it doesn't lag. I still stand by the fact that it's possible to make the SB load lower than 5.0 though. You don't have to change it if you don't feel like it.
KanaRin
Some mod here =w=

[Selee's Night Flight]
Awesome!

[Sandpig's Night Flight]
(根本是無聊的意見)

00:37:748 (2) - New combo

其他都很好 >w<

[Your Night Fight]
00:36:425 (1,2) - 這裡有點難看><可以跟跟spacing嘛=w=(之後的是可以的,只是這個比較難看一點)
01:20:542 (2,3) - 一樣, 排的有點不好 ,有點不美觀><
意見:
02:44:366 (1,2,3) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/58881 這樣放會好一點嗎=w=
PS.按Ctrl+J 再排好.

Yooooo.很少看過這種風格XDDDDDDD 你是學Shin的嗎(?)
有自己的風格是好事! 加油哦>w<

[Lks' Night Fight]

不想改變你的風格>w<
Mod不出什麼!
利害>w<

不過只有一點有點呆ww
02:46:572 (1) - 這麼長的1/4真的大丈夫?!=w=
有想過其他patterns嗎=w=

That's all!
還找mod www去求泡啊~~
Sandpig

NatsumeRin wrote:

[Sandpig]
HP或OD其中一个拉低1,这样可以把分降下去不少,让整体分布好一些。另AR+1建议 OK
01:17:895 (5) - 不和4对齐了么。。 排图的时候眼花了
01:24:954 (8) - sliderwhistle? 没注意,去掉了o.o
02:30:248 (3) - 这音的感觉是提前1/2放 比较长的vocal,说不准位置,提前放的话有一种抢拍的感觉,前边对应的地方也是,我都是直接用slider拉过去了o.o

后面说的那个newcombo我给去掉了……感觉没必要,毕竟是对称的o.o


thx for mod

Download: Sakamoto Maaya - 30 Minutes Night Flight (vivicat) [Sandpig's Night Flight].osu
Topic Starter
vivicat
thx for ziin and KanaRin <3
updated
LKs
i noticed that you have updated my diff
so if there still has some things remain, contact me via pm
LKs

Kite wrote:

[LKs' Night Flight]
00:57:932 (3) - 1/4 earlier? x
01:17:454 - Add beat? x
01:21:204 - ^ x
01:20:983 (4,1) - D: spacing changed
01:25:834 - This break feeld odd, you could/should map it the note1 beforehand is the end of this part
02:15:248 - Why break? D: why not? we shouldnt always make diffs with just to follow the song, isnt it? a diff filled with 1/2 notes doesnt make ppl feel interested, you know, sometimes a few different things might attract players more, perticular after you have totally possessed an E, an H and an I did like that.
02:22:307 - ^
02:29:366 - ^
02:37:023 - ^
02:46:572 (1) - This is just silly lol


KanaRin

[Lks' Night Fight]

不過只有一點有點呆ww
02:46:572 (1) - 這麼長的1/4真的大丈夫?!=w=
有想過其他patterns嗎=w= 不妨你想一个更好的pattern吧

Download: Sakamoto Maaya - 30 Minutes Night Flight (vivicat) [LKs' Night Flight].osu
Louis Cyphre
Offset is not same in all diffiuclties.
Make kiai sections same in all difficulties, also Kiai should start perfectly on Scale

[LKs' Night Flight]
Set Grid Level 3 or 4 and fix spacing in whole map
Example: 00:41:939 (4) -

01:18:116 (3) - a little off screen
01:36:204 (2) - remove new combo
01:36:645 (3) - add new combo
02:26:057 (1) - remove new combo
02:44:366 (1) - remove new combo
02:46:572 (1) - remove new combo
02:46:572 (1) - delete this repeat slider and fill that place with notes. Seriously, it dose not fit the song at all

[My Nightflght]
00:38:189 (2) - fix spacing


Nice skin and SB, star
Selee
Topic Starter
vivicat
thx for Louis Cyphre's mod :)
updated
Shohei Ohtani
LK:
00:41:278 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - You could probably do something a bit more interesting here, probably like, increasing the volume on each note, and maybe using some normal hitsound >:3~.
00:45:910 (1,2,3) - ITT: this spacing ;~;
00:46:572 (1,1) - ^
00:50:101 (10,1) - ^
00:56:719 (1) - ^
01:03:998 (4,1) - ^
01:18:998 (2) - ^
01:25:395 - Bleh, I don't like this break. It's in the middle of the musical phrase, and I'm like "what"
01:44:807 (1,2,3,4,5) - WOAH MAN PULL DOWN THE REINS
02:00:910 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:04:219 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - ^
02:15:028 - These. . . breaks ;`;
02:22:087 - ^
02:29:145 - ^
02:36:425 - ^
02:39:513 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - I'M GOING TO PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE.
02:42:822 - HOLY CRAP 0.5 MY PANTS.

Comboing can get silly, due to the silly spacing. Also, to make things easier, if you want to use soft hitsounds, but also use the normal clap, just custom-hitsound it in ;D~.

My:
Personal Peeve: I don't like sliders that repeat a lot. Although, this is just a personal thing, and removing them at this point would require a LOT of re-mapping.

Good map, though B3~.

Sandpig:
moe.

Seelee:
02:19:881 (4,5) - Slightly touching HP bar.
02:48:337 - Kiai comes in too early?
LKs

Louis Cyphre wrote:

[LKs' Night Flight]
Set Grid Level 3 or 4 and fix spacing in whole map
Example: 00:41:939 (4) - i do curious about that have you ever saw the new combo at [00:42:xxx], or do you know what a new combo mean?

01:18:116 (3) - a little off screen yea, but acceptable, osu! even allow me 1 grid left and down it .
01:36:204 (2) - remove new combo
01:36:645 (3) - add new combo no
02:26:057 (1) - remove new combo k
02:44:366 (1) - remove new combo no
02:46:572 (1) - remove new combo those two bule note 1 were set as a fold line, other notes on the both sides show you a mirroring
02:46:572 (1) - delete this repeat slider and fill that place with notes. Seriously, it dose not fit the song at all oh? so you shall teach me another fitter way?

CDFA wrote:

LK:
00:41:278 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - You could probably do something a bit more interesting here, probably like, increasing the volume on each note, and maybe using some normal hitsound >:3~. the subject before the voice insert in should be quiet, and i dont wanna do my work be similar to the most of others.
00:45:910 (1,2,3) - ITT: this spacing ;~; cry seldom works
00:46:572 (1,1) - ^
00:50:101 (10,1) - ^
00:56:719 (1) - ^
01:03:998 (4,1) - ^
01:18:998 (2) - ^
01:25:395 - Bleh, I don't like this break. It's in the middle of the musical phrase, and I'm like "what" lol again, not to get excited over a little thing, a number of you guys have had more "awesome" works than me
01:44:807 (1,2,3,4,5) - WOAH MAN PULL DOWN THE REINS
02:00:910 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:04:219 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - ^
02:15:028 - These. . . breaks ;`; if you want to a reason badly, just image that i help you in making you see the lyric clearly
02:22:087 - ^
02:29:145 - ^
02:36:425 - ^
02:39:513 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - I'M GOING TO PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE. 你脑残吧? sry but i really cant respond you in eng
02:42:822 - HOLY CRAP 0.5 MY PANTS. are you a virgin mapper or not?
im fed up with endless mod to be posted here one by one, while my new term is definitely come
so less computer online time
you can do any change on my diff from now on, so long as them wont bother me any more.

Download: Sakamoto Maaya - 30 Minutes Night Flight (vivicat) [LKs' Night Flight].osu
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it would be ave maria =w=
Aleks719
My Your Night Flight
01:20:322 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It can be better : 02:58:925 (x) - Add note

Selee's Night Flight
01:43:925 (3) - very nazi (1 grid up)
03:19:439 (3) - add reverse?

That's all, star
sayounara
star
kioukiou
Uh...[LKs' Night Flight] : AR=7 ,the spacing is not so hard to read for me.

So...Bubbled.
Topic Starter
vivicat

kioukiou wrote:

Uh...[LKs' Night Flight] : AR=7 ,the spacing is not so hard to read for me.

So...Bubbled.
谢谢QQ姐 :)
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Bessy
:D 占位
Beren
占位?!
Night_Side
:oops:
_Kiva
占位! ~~ Fight on ~
Beuchi
Just passing around~ I know you posted in the queue, sorry for being too late ;_;

Anyways, pretty nice song, and I love the storyboard! The comet touch is simply <3

Not going to pop but there are some moments where the load is a bit higher than it should be. Right at the beginning, for example, the load goes up to 5x, when you're seeing only 2 images (yellow and red). This is because you still have light and 1 in the background, behind the ones you see (besides the own background of the song, of course).

As I said, not going to pop or anything, just pointing out that ;)

Oh, by the way, I don't think this is that bad but I had to update [My Night Flight] just when I downloaded the map, not sure if it's just me or what =x
Topic Starter
vivicat

Beuchi-chan wrote:

Just passing around~ I know you posted in the queue, sorry for being too late ;_;

Anyways, pretty nice song, and I love the storyboard! The comet touch is simply <3

Not going to pop but there are some moments where the load is a bit higher than it should be. Right at the beginning, for example, the load goes up to 5x, when you're seeing only 2 images (yellow and red). This is because you still have light and 1 in the background, behind the ones you see (besides the own background of the song, of course).

As I said, not going to pop or anything, just pointing out that ;)

Oh, by the way, I don't think this is that bad but I had to update [My Night Flight] just when I downloaded the map, not sure if it's just me or what =x
thx very much :D
Moefu_old
what a pretty song~
deserves my star
James2250
Some of these are suggestions, follow what you agree with~

-It says for me to update one of the difficulties too, try doing a full submit and see if that fixes anything (also fix the sb issue if you didn't already)
-Just as a quick comment some people dislike bright combo colors with kiai
-Make sure to include a hit0 in the folder even if it just the default one

Selee's Night Flight:
02:48:337 is a pretty random place to start the kiai, start it at 02:50:101 like the other difficulties

Sandpig's Night Flight:
-End final kiai at 03:21:866 like the other difficulties

My Night Flight:
00:47:233 (2,1) - not a big fan of the anti jumps near the start like this

LKs' Night Flight:
-I don't really think you need all of the small breaks at the end, they don't really fit with the song
-HP Drain + 1 to make it higher than the previous difficulty?
00:45:469 (5,1) - space out more
00:52:087 (3,1) - space out more
00:57:932 (3) - incorrect snapped? Move to 00:57:822 (some others like this seem ok but this one seems off)
01:15:248 (3,1) - space out slightly more
01:46:572 (1) - new combo isn't needed
02:33:557 (2,3) - odd place for a jump
02:35:542 (7,1) - space out more
02:39:513 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - kind of clumped together
02:46:572 (1) - could be more creative

Not too many issues but I think the last difficulty could have its spacing look slightly more organized
Call me back after fixes and I will rebubble~
Selee
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SPOILER
[quote="James2250"]LKs' Night Flight:
-I don't really think you need all of the small breaks at the end, they don't really fit with the song on purpose
-HP Drain + 1 to make it higher than the previous difficulty? k
00:45:469 (5,1) - space out more ^
00:52:087 (3,1) - space out more ^
00:57:932 (3) - incorrect snapped? Move to 00:57:822 (some others like this seem ok but this one seems off) nah
01:15:248 (3,1) - space out slightly more nah
01:46:572 (1) - new combo isn't needed k
02:33:557 (2,3) - odd place for a jump feel good
02:35:542 (7,1) - space out more nah
02:39:513 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - kind of clumped together what?
02:46:572 (1) - could be more creative i cant help with this section :( [quote]

Download: Sakamoto Maaya - 30 Minutes Night Flight (vivicat) [LKs' Night Flight].osu
Sandpig
帮我改了吧……
Topic Starter
vivicat

Sandpig wrote:

帮我改了吧……
恩改完了。。。
all fixed
James2250
Sorry for the long wait

Selee's Night Flight:
-Start the kiai at 02:50:101 like the other difficulties

LKs' Night Flight:
-Still have some spacing that doesn't really fit here
00:45:910 (1,2,3) - if you want a jump here keep the spacing equal for the whole combo
02:33:557 (2,3) - odd place for a jump
02:35:542 (7,1) - anti jump still looks odd here..

(don't kudosu)
Topic Starter
vivicat

James2250 wrote:

Sorry for the long wait

Selee's Night Flight:
-Start the kiai at 02:50:101 like the other difficulties

LKs' Night Flight:
-Still have some spacing that doesn't really fit here
00:45:910 (1,2,3) - if you want a jump here keep the spacing equal for the whole combo
02:33:557 (2,3) - odd place for a jump
02:35:542 (7,1) - anti jump still looks odd here..

(don't kudosu)
all fixed.
thanks very much :)
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