Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee · forum

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pregnant_man

2,494 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

pregnant_man 2014-12-07T15:45:08+00:00

REVIVED

Breadhunter

313 posts

Joined June 2011

Breadhunter 2014-12-07T18:40:11+00:00

Yay!

Birdy

5,741 posts

Joined April 2011

Birdy 2015-01-04T23:40:39+00:00

q

[General]
The subsequent red combo colours could be just a bit more different, or alternatively swap Colour 1 and Colour 2's places.

[Breadhunter's Easy]
AR1 or 2.
CS could be 3, especially as the Normal is 4. No need to leave 3 away, and CS2 is rarely used anymore.
00:47:902 (1) - This should either blanket the next (2), or the next (2,3) should go down-right. Either works better IMO, and if you want to curve in the latter suggestion (like in the screenshot below), go ahead.

Like this.

01:07:650 (4) - Would be nice if this was shortened by 1/2 and add a circle to the current ending point.
01:43:137 (3) - Fix the blanket by moving the end-point just one square downwards.
01:56:607 (5) - Should be symmetrical. Middlepoint to x256 y232 and end point to x344 y192.
02:35:972 - Add circle.

[BM's Normal]
00:34:433 (1) - Divide into 1/1 slider and a circle.
00:51:040 (1) - Start this 1/4 later or earlier. If earlier, then obviously remove the circle there. This spinner appears too soon after the last hit object.
02:24:158 (2,3,4) - Meh, I don't understand the whistles. Consider removing them, unless you have a good reason for them.

[Zero's Hard]
02:37:809 (1,2) - Shouldn't the long slider be first, then the short?
feels too solid for me to even give small suggestions ;;

[Yales' Insane]
00:26:187 - Feel like there could be an object on the vocal.
00:44:229 (1) - Shorten by 1/4 and add a circle on the beat. Definitely feels like it should be a clickable beat, just like the other parts like this.
01:37:015 (1) - ^
02:28:954 (3) - This slider needs to be same in length as the previous slider.

[Dawn]
AR9,3 maybe?
00:19:636 (1) - The slider velocity at the start should be a little faster because here the speed doubles. It really doesn't need that big speed up.
01:26:607 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Add variety. If nothing else, increase the spacing with the latter (1,2,3,4,5,6).
02:28:443 (1,2) - Should be timed better with 1/16 snap. (1) end on the 02:28:845. (2)'s start is unsnapped, so snap it to 02:28:960, and end at 02:29:304.
02:56:176 (1) - The slider shape is rather compressed. Should be improved by moving the points more towards each other.

And now, don't let this die. Good mapset, nice song!

pregnant_man

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Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

pregnant_man 2015-01-05T00:04:59+00:00

thenks, i'll check it asap

Aka

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Joined January 2012

Aka 2015-01-05T00:17:39+00:00

я пишу этот комментарий, чтоб когда ты отредактировал пост, там было написано, что ты его отредактировал. не благодари.

340

334 posts

Joined January 2014

340 2015-01-09T20:41:29+00:00

[dawn]

00:24:401 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - после этого няшного скруглённого слайдера идёт эта прямая линия из троек и кружка и по-моему это не выглядит круто. предлагаю сделать что-то такое, ну или не такое. суть, я надеюсь, ты уловил
SPOILER
01:59:056 (1) - в серый забыл покарсить
02:01:505 (1) - и его тоже
00:59:107 (1,2) - и его?
03:14:544 (1) - спиннер, может, поставить?
00:42:698 (4,1) - будет намного красивее если ты сделаешь так, чтобы 4 пересекал 1 где-то по серединке

[yales' insane]

uhhhhhhhhhhh rhythm on your insane is harder and more complicated than extra's rhythm and it have some moments that are hard to read when in extra everything is quite readable and havent any traps or something.
01:48:341 (1) - i dont think that you really wanted to put a simple normal clap here because it sounds like a something horrible imo. change them to the custom claps please (and in many other moments after this, you'll easily find it, they're very allocated lol)
03:06:584 (3,4) - why did you break the symmetry here? ;__;

[zero__wind's hard]

00:32:443 (2,3,4) - i dont really know if that fast singletap is ok in hard. 196 bpm 1/2 is so hardcore
02:34:136 (1) - this shouldnt be colored in grey >:0

допишу позже

pregnant_man

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Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

pregnant_man 2015-01-13T22:33:29+00:00

Static Noise Bird wrote:
q

[General]
The subsequent red combo colours could be just a bit more different, or alternatively swap Colour 1 and Colour 2's places.
[Dawn]
AR9,3 maybe? nice idea
00:19:636 (1) - The slider velocity at the start should be a little faster because here the speed doubles. It really doesn't need that big speed up. umm, no, because it somewhat fits immo
01:26:607 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Add variety. If nothing else, increase the spacing with the latter (1,2,3,4,5,6).liked what i done here, so no
02:28:443 (1,2) - Should be timed better with 1/16 snap. (1) end on the 02:28:845. (2)'s start is unsnapped, so snap it to 02:28:960, and end at 02:29:304.
changed it in other way
02:56:176 (1) - The slider shape is rather compressed. Should be improved by moving the points more towards each other.
fexed
And now, don't let this die. Good mapset, nice song!

340 wrote:
[dawn]
00:24:401 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - после этого няшного скруглённого слайдера идёт эта прямая линия из троек и кружка и по-моему это не выглядит круто. предлагаю сделать что-то такое, ну или не такое. суть, я надеюсь, ты уловил а мне нравится

SPOILER
01:59:056 (1) - в серый забыл покарсить серый немного не так там работает, это все так и должно быть
02:01:505 (1) - и его тоже
00:59:107 (1,2) - и его?
03:14:544 (1) - спиннер, может, поставить?
00:42:698 (4,1) - будет намного красивее если ты сделаешь так, чтобы 4 пересекал 1 где-то по серединке
чуточку двинул

thanks bros

Breadhunter

313 posts

Joined June 2011

Breadhunter 2015-01-14T22:43:42+00:00

Оживили! Место под аксепты модов

Static Noise Bird wrote:
[Breadhunter's Easy]
AR1 or 2. K Элвис, я забыл про это, ты мне еще тогда писал, а сейчас тоже забыл.
CS could be 3, especially as the Normal is 4. No need to leave 3 away, and CS2 is rarely used anymore. later
00:47:902 (1) - This should either blanket the next (2), or the next (2,3) should go down-right. Either works better IMO, and if you want to curve in the latter suggestion (like in the screenshot below), go ahead. Moved them down
Like this.
01:07:650 (4) - Would be nice if this was shortened by 1/2 and add a circle to the current ending point.It followes the rhythm
01:43:137 (3) - Fix the blanket by moving the end-point just one square downwards.K
01:56:607 (5) - Should be symmetrical. Middlepoint to x256 y232 and end point to x344 y192.K, Thank you!
02:35:972 - Add circle. K

Thanks for mod:)
I don't know english well D: Soryan

340 wrote:
дописываю

[breadhunter's easy]
01:30:892 (1,2,3) - [imho]было бы кайфовее, если бы ты их позагибал[/imho] Ну там такая идея была, может быть плохая, посмотрим еще
01:42:525 (2,3) - я с недавних пор перестал придираться к бланкетам, но этот уж слишком глаза режет Да, было в моде выше
03:09:646 (1,2,1) - да тут нужно быть самим миллхиором, чтобы это прочитать :о
Надо подумать, что-то тогда я тут явно увлекся

Спасибо тебе за мод!

Махачкала

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Zero__wind

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Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2015-01-15T13:27:03+00:00

@SNB: I think the current rhythm's better = =
@340: changed the single taps and another similar one in the second chorus
about the grey color, I didn't have any suitable point to use it, but I wanted to keep the combo colors consistent with other diffs so I used it there as it's a speed changing after all
well now I think I'd just remove the grey combo color from my diff
thx for your mod

code

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252,242,188421,6,0,L|324:248,1,70,8|4,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
406,256,188727,1,8,0:0:0:0:
492,112,189033,2,0,L|420:106,1,70,8|4,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
338,98,189339,1,8,0:0:0:0:
252,104,189493,1,0,0:0:0:0:
172,128,189646,6,0,P|144:200|152:260,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
4,148,190258,2,0,P|32:76|24:16,1,140,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,20,190717,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,24,190870,2,0,L|260:48,1,70,8|4,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
328,96,191176,5,8,0:0:0:0:
176,204,191482,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,352,191789,1,8,0:0:0:0:
440,244,192095,6,0,L|440:316,1,70,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,364,192401,1,8,0:0:0:0:
204,376,192707,6,0,L|132:376,1,70,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
84,308,193013,1,8,0:0:0:0:
72,140,193319,6,0,L|72:68,1,70,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
140,20,193625,1,8,0:0:0:0:
308,8,193931,6,0,L|380:8,1,70,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,76,194237,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,194544,5,4,0:0:0:0:

340

334 posts

Joined January 2014

340 2015-01-17T22:04:41+00:00

дописываю

[bm's normal]

00:14:066 (3) - зачем тут финиш на начале? D: звучит ужасно
00:31:066 (1) - нормал сэмплсет звучит тут как-то громко и вообще не к месту, имо
не знаю почему, но этот момент звучит классно 00:39:331 (1,2,3) - , а вот этот плохо 00:49:127 (1,2,3) - . может, у меня просто едет крыша?
01:57:831 (3) - а почему репит-то софтовый? :о
02:24:158 (2,3,4) - я, конечно, понимаю, что момент в песне затухающий, но переход на софты здесь как-то не к месту, имхо

[breadhunter's easy]

01:30:892 (1,2,3) - [imho]было бы кайфовее, если бы ты их позагибал[/imho]
01:42:525 (2,3) - я с недавних пор перестал придираться к бланкетам, но этот уж слишком глаза режет
03:09:646 (1,2,1) - да тут нужно быть самим миллхиором, чтобы это прочитать :о

Yales

827 posts

Joined February 2013

Yales 2015-01-22T16:50:41+00:00

Static Noise Bird wrote:
[Yales' Insane]
00:26:187 - Feel like there could be an object on the vocal. mh...kay sounds legit.
00:44:229 (1) - Shorten by 1/4 and add a circle on the beat. Definitely feels like it should be a clickable beat, just like the other parts like this.
01:37:015 (1) - ^ okok
02:28:954 (3) - This slider needs to be same in length as the previous slider. fixed thanks

340 wrote:
[yales' insane]
uhhhhhhhhhhh rhythm on your insane is harder and more complicated than extra's rhythm and it have some moments that are hard to read when in extra everything is quite readable and havent any traps or something. My diff isn't harder than extra. Also about the reading, I think the diff even if it can be improved ofc, it's neat enough, and if you're really talking about the readabilty of some patterns, it's just my style that I still tried to simplify. About the rythme, it's just how interprete the song and i'm pretty sure, according to my play, to the testplays I saw, it's fluent.
01:48:341 (1) - i dont think that you really wanted to put a simple normal clap here because it sounds like a something horrible imo. change them to the custom claps please (and in many other moments after this, you'll easily find it, they're very allocated lol) I don't see the problem honestly, and I always used the same kind of hitsounds all the time for this part
03:06:584 (3,4) - why did you break the symmetry here? ;__; fixed, I guess

http://puu.sh/eSeE3/1a4770f543.osu

Thanks

meii18

3,577 posts

Joined October 2013

meii18 2015-02-04T22:05:23+00:00

~~placeholder for my mod :3~~
Here's my mod

asdf - nazi or suggestion
asdf - unrankable issue

General

Disable widescreen support because there's no SB
There's a OSB file . Idk why is in song's folder but maybe you should remove it during you haven't SB

Breadhunter's Easy

00:12:072(3)- Here a 1/1 slider with 1 reverse don't work so good with the downbeat . Remove the repeat ( I mean snap the slider to 1/2 slider ) and it will be better if you add a note on 00:13:268()- where the guitar starts . After these changes , you should place 00:13:667(1)- to x:192 y:286to avoid the DS error
00:29:166(1)- Remove NC because there's no new vocals
00:43:004(2)- Here I have an idea . Move the 3rd gap to x:216 y:176 and then the 2nd gap to x:156 y:112 to make a wave shape . Why I said that ? Because all sliders are only curved and it's very boring for player
00:45:453(1)- Same . Move the 2nd gap to x:319 y:259 and then the 3rd gap to x:275 y:355 for wave shape
01:06:061(3)- You forgot to add NC and it should be because there's new vocals
01:11:624(1)- Remove NC and instead add NC on 01:13:213(2)- because there's new vocals
01:38:239(1)- Why you not place it to x:230 y:236 ? If others modders see it , they will thought that is a nazi blanket with the previous note . After this , you should move some notes to avoid DS error . Don't worry , is easy
02:22:321(1)- Move the last gap to x:354 y:86 for a perfect pattern and do not ruin the flow
02:23:546(3)- Add NC because there's new vocals
02:57:401(4)- Add NC because new vocals
03:03:523(2)- Snap it to 1/2 slider to fit better the downbeat

BM's Normal

00:39:943(1)- Remove finish from slider's head because there's no cymbal emphasis . Instead add finish on slider's tail where's is cymbal emphasis
00:39:943(2)-ctrl+g ? It will be more awesome for flow and cursor movement
01:02:087(2)- Remove finish because no cymbal emphasis and add instead clap
01:02:882(1)- Move the first gap to x:291 y:98 to not ruin the flow and for a better cursor movement
01:05:266(2)- Snap it to 1/2 to fit the downbeat I mean where the vocal stops for a few seconds
01:32:729(2)- Hmm maybe ctrl+g ? for a better flow and cursor movement I guess
01:40:076(2)- Move it to x:251 y:202 for a better pattern and flow but you should move some objects to avoid the DS errors
01:42:525(2)-ctrl+g for a better cursor movement
02:34:173(2)- Move the first gap to x:160 y:231 , then the last gap to x:58 y:223 and then the middle gap to x:114 y:246 to make the slider curved and then move the slider to x:160 y:231 to fix the nazi blanket with previous note
02:43:319(2)- ctrl+g if you want
03:12:707(2)- ctrl+g it will be more awesome for cursor movement and flow of course
03:13:931(4)- ctrl+g same reason but after that , you should move the next note to x:78 y:46 to avoid DS error

Zero's Hard

00:27:379(1)- Remove NC because no new vocals . Maybe you forgot to put the NC and instead add NC on the next object
00:36:270(3)- Move the first gap to x:109 y:263 and then the last gap to x:52 y:300 to make the pattern and the flow more better
00:39:943(2)- ctrl+g for a better cursor movement and flow
02:02:729(4)- Add NC because new vocals
02:53:216(2)- ctrl+g it will be awesome the movement and the flow
Sry for nazi things because it looks great :3

Yales's Insane

01:05:663(4)- To fit the downbeat better , my suggestion is to replace this 1/2 slider with a note
02:59:544(4)- ctrl+g for a better flow and cursor movement
Good diff . I can't mod it more because I'm not a pro player ;_;

Dawn

00:07:687(3,4)- Move the middle gap to x:82 y:262 to make the slider curved and then move the next note to x:3 y:269 because there's a nazi blanket
00:41:571(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5)- imo this combination make 00:41:780(1)- to be invisible and hard to read . Maybe this part is overmapped . Try to find a way to move the circles a little further from that slider
00:39:943(2)- Add NC because SV changes
00:49:739(2)- Maybe add NC because there's SV changes and then remove Nc from next note for consistency
01:05:862(10)- Can you reove this note ? Because there's a downbeat I mean a little break of vocals , guitar and of drums and this note don't fit that downbeat well
01:32:729(2)- Add NC because SV changes
02:25:229(1)- Remove NC because no new vocals
02:35:972(3)- Remove finish because there's no cymbal emphasis . Instead you can add clap
02:38:421(3)- Remove finish from slider's head because no cymbal emphasis
02:43:319(2)- Add NC because SV changes
02:53:115(2)- Add Nc because yeap SV changes ~.~
02:55:870(4)- ctrl+g to the flow be more better
There's some finish which should be removed because where they are placed , there's no cymbal emphasis( during kiai ) . I'm too lazy to mention all @.@

Well good map ~~but I haven't kd recently~~ Have my star o/

Good Luck ! o/

Yales

827 posts

Joined February 2013

Yales 2015-02-11T17:32:11+00:00

ByBy_ChAn wrote:
~~placeholder for my mod :3~~

Yales's Insane
01:05:663(4)- To fit the downbeat better , my suggestion is to replace this 1/2 slider with a note
02:59:544(4)- ctrl+g for a better flow and cursor movement
Good diff . I can't mod it more because I'm not a pro player ;_;

Didn't fix the 2nd point, it wasn't my idea and I think I prefer the way it is.
Thanks.

Let me know elvis if you want the diff now or if I can give you later after another mod.

Zero__wind

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Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2015-02-12T11:13:23+00:00

ByBy_ChAn wrote:
Zero's Hard
00:27:379(1)- Remove NC because no new vocals . Maybe you forgot to put the NC and instead add NC on the next object currently already consistent
00:36:270(3)- Move the first gap to x:109 y:263 and then the last gap to x:52 y:300 to make the pattern and the flow more better don't know what you're talking about
00:39:943(2)- ctrl+g for a better cursor movement and flow no, because 'down'
02:02:729(4)- Add NC because new vocals not necessary and why always depending on vocal
02:53:216(2)- ctrl+g it will be awesome the movement and the flow I don't think so
Sry for nazi things because it looks great :3

thanks for mod, but no change for me

And EvilElvis why wasn't my diff updated last time x.x
t/214958&start=20 please

pregnant_man

2,494 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

pregnant_man 2015-03-09T11:53:02+00:00

OKAY IT'S GOING TO BE REVIVED AGAIN SORRY GUISE
No changes from ByBy_ChAn's mod (for mine, breadhunter's and alexa's diffs) because... well, i honestly think that everything you mentonied is fully okay-ish
Also fixed everything except very first from SNB's mod for normal because it fits with vocals

Myxo

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Joined December 2012

Myxo 2015-03-21T21:00:08+00:00

Go and rank this masterpiece already o3o

hehe

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Joined November 2012

hehe 2015-04-08T09:07:24+00:00

hi

General

on second thought you can probably remove 'The' and 'the' from tags, cuz redundant.
Dawn
00:40:632 (2) - overmap
00:50:964 (1) - my inner QAT tells me to up it just a little, 0.7~

Yale's Insane
00:06:291 (1) - 1/6
00:27:478 (8) - overmap (i do understand if you want to keep, but i'll point them out anyway.)
00:30:357 (5) - 2 circles fit much better because the percussion is still very loud. also i was caught off guard by sudden 1/4 sldiers lol.
00:34:969 (4) - overmap. (this is consistent in all choruses except: 01:27:755 - )
00:39:331 (1,1,1) - i disliked this part, it just felt way too boring (rhythm in general, so it applies to other occurances) for such an intense part of the song. drums in in the middle are missed out (understandable) but the 1/1 spacing for all of the pattern were way too small to feel any sort of 'emphasis'. i would personally do something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2987958 (grey is slowndown ya) but its up to you. i strongly suggest a change.
00:40:708 - stream starts here. its gonna be confusing to the players when the stream starts later than the song itself.
00:50:964 - a note here would be nice.
01:43:826 (3) - somewhat overmap.
01:45:586 - for this section, there's the random cheers and you emphasize it with 0.5SV. although i didn't really find the slowdown intuitive (speedups would work much better), if you intend to keep it, do not go as low as 0.5SV. 0.5SV 1/1 slider = 1.0SV 1/2 slider, its easily mistaken. try 0.75 i guess. (and i'd suggest removing the slowdowns when there's no cheer, but just a loud downbeat. it just doesn't have the same impact: 01:59:056 (1) - 01:54:158 (1) - 01:59:056 (1) - 02:01:505 (1) - etc.)
02:05:714 - overmap.
02:14:821 (1,2,3,4) - what is this lol. stream starts on 02:15:127 - . 1 starts and repeats on nothing. strongly suggest changing this. didn't have any 'impact' for me when playing.
02:21:632 (3) - 02:22:780 (4) - overmap.
02:25:382 - you could start the spinner with a note.
02:28:443 (1) - its 1/4. anyway i'd rather not gamble on the snapping with 02:28:443 (1,2,3,4) - , no other diffs mapped it and i'm not too sure myself. best to remove.
03:12:095 (1,1,2,3,1,1,2,3) - this had much more swag. much nicer to play.

Zero's Hard
00:47:596 (4,1) - spacing is a little low.
03:12:095 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - the pattern has too much flow to give emphasis, imo. you can maybe try symmetry? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2988017

Sieg's Advanced
01:22:551 (2,3,4) - consider reworking the rhythm here so the drums that 4 cover are emphasised adequately. http://i.imgur.com/WQTGbpw.png
BM's Normal
01:43:137 (1) - i really feel that you can map the break ;-;
02:15:280 (4) - shift this forward 1/2 tick then extend (to map to the stream beginning properly, so it doesn't feel weird.)
02:21:097 (1,2,3) - awkward rhythm, regular 1/1 sliders fit much more fluidly.

Breadhunter's Easy
i'm genuinely concerned about the progression from this diff to the next. exclusive 2/1 rhythms > mostly 1/1 with some 1/2, 0.5SV to 1.2SV? sorry but you should really consider upping the ante of this difficulty, it is really too easy! x_x either that or a new diff has to be made.

call me back once issues with Easy > Normal are resolved.

Sieg

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Joined February 2012

Sieg 2015-04-08T13:13:14+00:00

Intended to follow lyrics with skipped beat, this is normal to skip some beats for this level diffs. Thanks for suggestion handsome :3

Yales

827 posts

Joined February 2013

Yales 2015-04-08T19:37:34+00:00

handsome wrote:
hi

Yale's Insane
00:30:357 (5) - 2 circles fit much better because the percussion is still very loud. also i was caught off guard by sudden 1/4 sldiers lol. Well, a slider 1/4 is almost like hitting a circle. If you're not used to it, you can be surprised by those, as the music is sort of surprising here.
00:34:969 (4) - overmap. (this is consistent in all choruses except: 01:27:755 - ) I think it sounds pretty great though, it somehow maintain the speed
00:39:331 (1,1,1) - i disliked this part, it just felt way too boring (rhythm in general, so it applies to other occurances) for such an intense part of the song. drums in in the middle are missed out (understandable) but the 1/1 spacing for all of the pattern were way too small to feel any sort of 'emphasis'. i would personally do something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2987958 (grey is slowndown ya) but its up to you. i strongly suggest a change. As you said, it's a strong part and I mapped it in a way you can't miss it. Anyway, I fixed in my own way.
00:40:708 - stream starts here. its gonna be confusing to the players when the stream starts later than the song itself. Nope, an average player might actually pay more more attention to the voice (as the slider actually represents) than the music. And if you're an expert player...well, you won't have trouble to play it at all.
01:43:826 (3) - somewhat overmap. I also think it's more intuitive to play, I don't know
01:45:586 - for this section, there's the random cheers and you emphasize it with 0.5SV. although i didn't really find the slowdown intuitive (speedups would work much better), if you intend to keep it, do not go as low as 0.5SV. 0.5SV 1/1 slider = 1.0SV 1/2 slider, its easily mistaken. try 0.75 i guess. (and i'd suggest removing the slowdowns when there's no cheer, but just a loud downbeat. it just doesn't have the same impact: 01:59:056 (1) - 01:54:158 (1) - 01:59:056 (1) - 02:01:505 (1) - etc.) I really disagree with this, I think it's totally intuitive actually xD. Didn't see much problem on testplays neither. And about the 0.5SV, there's the new combo to prevent, and in gameplay, EVEN if you get surprised, it's totally doable to get back to it, since the slowdown helps to focus on the next note, unlike the speed up... Don't know if you got me, but ya, I strongly disagree here
02:05:714 - overmap. I think it fits pretty well though, dont know
02:14:821 (1,2,3,4) - what is this lol. stream starts on 02:15:127 - . 1 starts and repeats on nothing. strongly suggest changing this. didn't have any 'impact' for me when playing. It's amazing lol. I'd rather make a new diff for Elvis than changing this. It might be a stream, but I put more impact on the beginning of each sound and the result sounds and plays great to me
02:21:632 (3) - 02:22:780 (4) - overmap.For the first one, I'm pretty sure it's not. Also it's to recall this 02:20:790 (4,1) - and about the triple, I think it fits well.
02:28:443 (1) - its 1/4. anyway i'd rather not gamble on the snapping with 02:28:443 (1,2,3,4) - , no other diffs mapped it and i'm not too sure myself. best to remove. Fixed the 1/4, but I didn't remove it, I like it and I don't think it plays or sounds bad.
03:12:095 (1,1,2,3,1,1,2,3) - this had much more swag. much nicer to play. Well, it's the end though... Anyway, I fixed this way.

Thanks, I fixed what I didnt put in quote. About the triples 00:34:969 (4) - , I don't really mind removing them, just let me know if you think it's a must because right now, I'm personally fine with it xD.

Diff -> http://puu.sh/h6q09/1bf7140674.osu

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2015-04-09T17:17:59+00:00

From M4M request in-game~

General:

Remove “Widescreen support” in all the diffs since you don’t have a SB and it’s just unnecessary.
There’s inconsistency in the combo colours. Better make sure the combo colours are similar in every diff.
Just double-check the metadata. I found some places on the Internet where the title looks like this: Prayer Of The Refugee.
http://puu.sh/h7bOE/4a9f8fa589.png
Whoa, the SV jump from Easy to the Normal is rather big: 0.5 – 1.20. I noticed that the Easy’s rhythm is very, very slow. This causes an unbalanced diffspread imo. I suggest you lift the SV to at least 0.8 or something in the Easy.

Breadhunter’s Easy:

Like I mentioned in “General” above, the SV is extremely slow, which I don’t really advise. I suggest lifting the SV to at least 0.8 or higher.
02:23:546 (3) – Just doublecheck that this spacing is 1.2X cuz according to AiMod there’s a slight error.
00:18:850 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) –Too many consecutive circles imo. Rather try using a mixture of sliders and circles in this section to avoid repetivity.
00:29:166 (1) –Remove new combo. I don’t really notice anything in the music/vocals that suggests a NC here.
00:29:166 (1,1) –Can’t you try to avoid this overlap? So unnecessary imo.
00:40:555 (3) –Aaah, I never like this long whistle sound. It just hurts my ears a lot and sounds horrible imo. Rather remove it.
01:06:061 (3) –The music suggests a new combo here imo and then remove new combo here and add new combo here: 01:13:213 (2) – I think it will be better if the new combo starts here: 01:13:213 (2) – since the music gets intense there.
01:33:341 (3) –Please remove this whistle sound as well.
01:37:627 (3,1) –Hm, can’t you try to make a nice blanket here? Like this:
Picture
01:42:525 (2,2) –You can try to stack these two circles on top of each other by moving 01:44:974 (1) – around a bit till you can stack (2) and (2) without distance snapping being a problem.
02:17:423 (3) –Remove the whistle sound please . . .
02:19:872 (1) -^
02:34:136 (1,1) –Not a good idea at all. The reaction time between the spinner and the next note is very short and unrankable imo. The spinner also feels too short imo. I suggest removing the spinner and mapping that area out instead. And also since this: 02:35:360 - is quite an important beat I think it will be more effective if you place a note/circle there to emphasize it better.
02:35:972 (1,2) –I would never really suggest stacking like this in an Easy diff. In a Normal it’s okay, but rather don’t do it in an Easy since this is mainly a diff for beginners.
02:43:931 (3) –Remove whistle.
02:53:727 (3) -^
02:59:238 (1) –Remove new combo here and add new combo here: 02:59:850 (2) – I really think the new combo has to start here: 02:59:850 (2) – instead.
03:14:850 –Why not start a spinner here? The music suggests one imo.

BM’s Normal:

Circle size: 3. Imo it will make the spread a bit more balanced since the Easy’s CS is 2.
00:11:674 (1) –Imo, this new combo is unnecessary. Rather remove it since this single combo: 00:10:079 (1) – doesn’t really fit.
00:43:004 (3,4) –Nazi. This blanket can be improved.
01:17:783 –Add a note here. There’s a clear beat that suggests it.
01:57:831 (3) –Remove the finish on the tail of this slider. It sounds weird.
02:02:729 (4,1) –The whistle sounds on these two notes doesn’t really fit with the music imo. Rather remove them and maybe use different hitsounds there.
Actually, from here on out, you used a lot of whistles. Too much imo; you really overused them and that strong sound can get really irritating. I highly suggest you reconsider using that hitsound so much.
02:42:707 (1,2) –I think you’re supposed to use a different finish hitsound on the head of these two sliders. Refer to these sliders: 01:32:117 (1,2) –
02:52:503 (1,2,3) -^
02:58:013 (1) –Hm, I suggest placing this slider right in the middle of the spinner so the player will have more time to click on the note after the spinner.
03:14:850 –Maybe start a spinner here? I think the music suggests it.

Sieg’s Advanced:

Hm, like the Normal, I don’t like the whistle sounds that you used from this point: 02:02:729 – onwards.
02:57:401 (1,2,3,4,1) -^, here as well.
03:14:850 –Spinner? Imo the music suggests it.

Zero’s Hard:

I guess the only thing that really bugged me in this diff are those whistle hitsounds, and I think you can add a spinner here: 03:14:850 – since the music suggests it.

Yales’ Insane:

Again, the whistles and maybe begin a spinner here: 03:14:850 –
Another thing that really bugged me is these sudden slow sliders right in the middle of a fast section in the song: 01:48:341 (1,1) - 01:53:239 (1,1) – Even if they are grey (to make them stand out from the rest) I still think they’re not very effective since they mess up the nice, consistent flow and are quite irritating. I highly suggest you fix that. In the kiai time: 01:41:913 (1) – they are okay I guess.
00:11:674 (1) –Place a finish on the head of this slider for consistency.
00:16:458 (1) -^

Dawn:

00:30:760 (1) – and 00:50:964 (1) – These two slow sliders caught me a bit off-guard even though they were grey. I suggest placing spinners there instead.
00:49:127 (1) –I also don’t suggest these sudden slow sliders since the jump from here: 00:49:127 (1) – to here: 00:49:586 (1) – is quite big and the slow slider makes it much more difficult. I’m not going to point them all out but they are at the same places in the other kiai times.
03:14:850 – Spinner?

Overall, I’ll say that the things that bugged me most was the whistle sounds (this is just my own opinion) and then the SV jump from Easy to Normal that causes the diffspread to be unbalanced.

I’m not quite sure what other BN’s will say about those sudden slow sliders in the Insane and Extra, but I am against them.

Good Luck with the ranking process, Elvis-san~!

Yales

827 posts

Joined February 2013

Yales 2015-04-09T18:06:11+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
Yales’ Insane:
Again, the whistles and maybe begin a spinner here: 03:14:850 – I won't add spinner unless Elvis does for constanticity between the diffs.
Another thing that really bugged me is these sudden slow sliders right in the middle of a fast section in the song: 01:48:341 (1,1) - 01:53:239 (1,1) – Even if they are grey (to make them stand out from the rest) I still think they’re not very effective since they mess up the nice, consistent flow and are quite irritating. I highly suggest you fix that. In the kiai time: 01:41:913 (1) – they are okay I guess. Well, you missed the point then. Obviously they slow down the flow to put more impact on the loud beat/screm and I think it's fine this way
00:11:674 (1) –Place a finish on the head of this slider for consistency. fixed
00:16:458 (1) -^ fixed

Thanks !

Diff : http://puu.sh/h7zHY/ea835d5c10.osu

Mao

Elite Mapper II

2,963 posts

Joined December 2012

Mao 2015-04-09T18:08:26+00:00

Song is so good

AlexaBM

755 posts

Joined March 2013

AlexaBM 2015-04-09T18:48:32+00:00

Mao wrote:
Song is so good

this^
also, I have just realised my diff is sh*t not so good as it could be. elvis-san why is this diff still here?it sucks rly

almost nothing was changed, thanks for the mods, tho!

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Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2015-04-10T05:54:17+00:00

@handsome : 1.33x spacing is just like usual and I'm fine with the last pattern. no need to think too much for a Hard diff
@Nya : the whistles are just fine imo and I would've use a spinner at end if the creator had one

thanks for the mods

update with some hitsound polishing

osu file format v14

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Tags:The Sufferer & the Witness Sieg AlexaBM Breadhunter Yales Zero__wind
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pregnant_man

2,494 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

pregnant_man 2015-04-10T12:27:48+00:00

I don't think that Easy is a big problem. Come on, it's meant to be "easy", normal isn't that hard as well (even star ratings between these diffs is acceptable) So i belive that it could be ranked as it is, without any big changes in easy. Thanks for mods tho

Last edited by pregnant_man 2015-04-10T13:17:54+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Breadhunter

313 posts

Joined June 2011

Breadhunter 2015-04-10T13:13:23+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
Breadhunter’s Easy:
Like I mentioned in “General” above, the SV is extremely slow, which I don’t really advise. I suggest lifting the SV to at least 0.8 or higher.
02:23:546 (3) – Just doublecheck that this spacing is 1.2X cuz according to AiMod there’s a slight error. fixed,
00:18:850 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) –Too many consecutive circles imo. Rather try using a mixture of sliders and circles in this section to avoid repetivity. don't think that's that is a problem
00:29:166 (1) –Remove new combo. I don’t really notice anything in the music/vocals that suggests a NC here.k
00:29:166 (1,1) –Can’t you try to avoid this overlap? So unnecessary imo. k, remade
00:40:555 (3) –Aaah, I never like this long whistle sound. It just hurts my ears a lot and sounds horrible imo. Rather remove it. *
01:06:061 (3) –The music suggests a new combo here imo and then remove new combo here and add new combo here: 01:13:213 (2) – I think it will be better if the new combo starts here: 01:13:213 (2) – since the music gets intense there. k?
01:33:341 (3) –Please remove this whistle sound as well.*
01:37:627 (3,1) –Hm, can’t you try to make a nice blanket here? Like this: k
01:42:525 (2,2) –You can try to stack these two circles on top of each other by moving 01:44:974 (1) – around a bit till you can stack (2) and (2) without distance snapping being a problem. k
02:17:423 (3) –Remove the whistle sound please . . . *
02:19:872 (1) -^ * I'm too young for this
02:34:136 (1,1) –Not a good idea at all. The reaction time between the spinner and the next note is very short and unrankable imo. The spinner also feels too short imo. I suggest removing the spinner and mapping that area out instead. And also since this: 02:35:360 - is quite an important beat I think it will be more effective if you place a note/circle there to emphasize it better. This is the best way to map this "intro", it's looks better, than slider or circle after break
02:35:972 (1,2) –I would never really suggest stacking like this in an Easy diff. In a Normal it’s okay, but rather don’t do it in an Easy since this is mainly a diff for beginners. It can't be a problem, cause there is enough time to read this pattern (Sorry for my english)
02:43:931 (3) –Remove whistle.no, i really like them, check them later*
02:53:727 (3) -^ *
02:59:238 (1) –Remove new combo here and add new combo here: 02:59:850 (2) – I really think the new combo has to start here: 02:59:850 (2) – instead.
03:14:850 –Why not start a spinner here? The music suggests one imo.
k

FLIE

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172,288,176176,1,8,0:0:0:0:
100,192,176789,1,0,1:0:0:0:
172,96,177401,2,0,P|204:64|256:36,2,100,8|0|8,0:0|1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,204,179238,1,0,1:0:0:0:
324,136,179850,6,0,P|336:240|276:312,2,200,12|8|4,1:0|0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
312,16,182911,5,0,1:0:0:0:
204,68,183523,2,0,P|176:136|204:204,1,150
256,192,184748,12,0,188421,0:0:0:0:
336,240,189646,6,0,P|256:292|176:240,1,200,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
151,187,191176,2,0,L|123:131,1,50,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,89,191789,6,0,L|184:33,1,50,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
297,56,192707,1,0,1:0:0:0:
359,158,193319,1,8,0:0:0:0:
252,214,193931,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,194544,12,0,196687,0:0:0:0:

pregnant_man

2,494 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

pregnant_man 2015-04-10T13:20:03+00:00

no changes from me because i really don't like how spinner works here and like these slowdowns

Sieg

3,981 posts

Joined February 2012

Sieg 2015-04-10T13:59:39+00:00

@-Nya-
removed last part whistles
about spinner, I don't really like to put spinner in the end
thanks

http://puu.sh/h8Ata/22a0bda30f.osu

l1mi

335 posts

Joined July 2011

l1mi 2015-04-11T09:42:32+00:00

Isnt it about time this map get ranked, no kudosu left imaginary star given.

Secretpipe

3,316 posts

Joined December 2012

Secretpipe 2015-04-19T14:30:18+00:00

Elvis please.

pregnant_man

2,494 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

pregnant_man 2015-04-19T14:34:12+00:00

amg

Hollow Wings

1,514 posts

Joined July 2010

Hollow Wings 2015-04-19T16:17:58+00:00

qualified.

irc with creator, fixed hs and stuff issues.

pregnant_man

2,494 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

pregnant_man 2015-04-19T16:19:24+00:00

omg finally, thank you so much HW

SPOILER

2015-04-19 18:27 Hollow Wings: elvis
2015-04-19 18:27 Hollow Wings: scaned your map, and need a bit irc imo
2015-04-19 18:27 Hollow Wings: have time now?
2015-04-19 18:27 EvilElvis: sure
2015-04-19 18:27 Hollow Wings: in easy diff
2015-04-19 18:28 EvilElvis: yes?
2015-04-19 18:28 Hollow Wings: 02:35:972 (1) - should remove this note coz need a 4/1 gap after spinner in easy diff
2015-04-19 18:28 EvilElvis: done
2015-04-19 18:28 EvilElvis: even more
2015-04-19 18:29 EvilElvis: lemme some time
2015-04-19 18:29 EvilElvis: i'll change spinner
2015-04-19 18:29 EvilElvis: by slider
2015-04-19 18:29 Hollow Wings: ok
2015-04-19 18:29 Hollow Wings: i'm still checking
2015-04-19 18:29 Hollow Wings: take it easy
2015-04-19 18:32 EvilElvis: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3031798 not it looks like that
2015-04-19 18:33 EvilElvis: also removed the last spinner
2015-04-19 18:33 Hollow Wings: sure
2015-04-19 18:33 Hollow Wings: hmm  why
2015-04-19 18:33 EvilElvis: because it is only diff what had it
2015-04-19 18:33 Hollow Wings: oh ok
2015-04-19 18:34 Hollow Wings: then add a note instead? like other diffs did
2015-04-19 18:34 EvilElvis: yes sure
2015-04-19 18:38 Hollow Wings: about hs
2015-04-19 18:38 Hollow Wings: there're 3 sliderslide.wav files
2015-04-19 18:38 Hollow Wings: plz use the completely muted ones
2015-04-19 18:38 Hollow Wings: not with 50ms length
2015-04-19 18:38 EvilElvis: oh
2015-04-19 18:38 EvilElvis: yes
2015-04-19 18:38 Hollow Wings: oops, slidertick*
2015-04-19 18:38 EvilElvis: yea yea
2015-04-19 18:38 EvilElvis: i got it
2015-04-19 18:40 Hollow Wings: enable widescreen support in Dawn diff
2015-04-19 18:40 Hollow Wings: and that's it, update when you've done all above :3
2015-04-19 18:40 EvilElvis: yay
2015-04-19 18:40 EvilElvis: i'll remove widescreen from all diffs btw
2015-04-19 18:40 EvilElvis: because there is no sb
2015-04-19 18:41 Hollow Wings: yeah fine
2015-04-19 18:41 EvilElvis: and it's kinda pointless to have it
2015-04-19 18:41 EvilElvis: :D
2015-04-19 18:41 Hollow Wings: haha well, actually if they'll be no problem if all diffs are in same settings
2015-04-19 18:50 EvilElvis: well, i changed some hitsounds due to this sliderslide and stuff
2015-04-19 18:50 EvilElvis: redownload it before recheking
2015-04-19 18:50 Hollow Wings: yeah, have you updated?
2015-04-19 18:51 EvilElvis: trying to
2015-04-19 18:51 Hollow Wings: hhm k
2015-04-19 18:51 EvilElvis: udated i guess
2015-04-19 18:51 Hollow Wings: ok
2015-04-19 18:52 EvilElvis: damn
2015-04-19 18:52 EvilElvis: forgot to remove something in easy
2015-04-19 18:52 Hollow Wings: haha ok
2015-04-19 18:53 Hollow Wings: tell me anytime when update's finished
2015-04-19 18:53 Hollow Wings: i'm keeping online
2015-04-19 18:53 EvilElvis: so it's finished
2015-04-19 18:54 Hollow Wings: ok
2015-04-19 18:58 Hollow Wings: ...???
2015-04-19 18:58 EvilElvis: hum?
2015-04-19 18:58 Hollow Wings: those hs files
2015-04-19 18:58 Hollow Wings: still unchanged imo...?
2015-04-19 18:58 EvilElvis: ehh
2015-04-19 18:58 EvilElvis: wtf
2015-04-19 18:58 EvilElvis: a sec
2015-04-19 18:58 Hollow Wings: sure
2015-04-19 18:59 EvilElvis: http://puu.sh/hjsBZ/6c4d87573f.png isn't it the same for you?
2015-04-19 19:00 Hollow Wings: http://puu.sh/hjsGW/8605645e69.wav
2015-04-19 19:01 Hollow Wings: use
2015-04-19 19:01 Hollow Wings: this file
2015-04-19 19:01 Hollow Wings: to replace
2015-04-19 19:01 Hollow Wings: soft-sliderslide
2015-04-19 19:01 EvilElvis: ah
2015-04-19 19:01 Hollow Wings: and tick
2015-04-19 19:01 EvilElvis: sorry i'm dumb
2015-04-19 19:02 Hollow Wings: hmm i remember that
2015-04-19 19:02 EvilElvis: i can't use if for tick btw, there was a rule that mapper can't silence both tick and slider slide
2015-04-19 19:02 Hollow Wings: i mean soft-sliderslide2
2015-04-19 19:02 Hollow Wings: and soft-slidertick
2015-04-19 19:03 Hollow Wings: soft-slidertick2 is note muted
2015-04-19 19:03 Hollow Wings: not*
2015-04-19 19:06 EvilElvis: ah
2015-04-19 19:06 EvilElvis: i got why i stucked
2015-04-19 19:06 EvilElvis: i mean
2015-04-19 19:06 EvilElvis: i even didn't used soft-slidertick
2015-04-19 19:06 Hollow Wings: www
2015-04-19 19:06 EvilElvis: there is no sliderticks
2015-04-19 19:06 EvilElvis: for it
2015-04-19 19:06 EvilElvis: lol
2015-04-19 19:06 EvilElvis: so i deleted it
2015-04-19 19:07 EvilElvis: no it should be fine
2015-04-19 19:07 Hollow Wings: no you have used it
2015-04-19 19:07 Hollow Wings: somewhere
2015-04-19 19:07 Hollow Wings: well it's up to you
2015-04-19 19:07 EvilElvis: yes
2015-04-19 19:07 EvilElvis: maybe it was used, but blah 
2015-04-19 19:07 EvilElvis: whatever
2015-04-19 19:07 EvilElvis: :D
2015-04-19 19:07 EvilElvis: nothing changed 
2015-04-19 19:08 Hollow Wings: ahh...?
2015-04-19 19:08 EvilElvis: i'm talking about slider tic
2015-04-19 19:08 EvilElvis: because i deleted it nothing drammaticaly changed
2015-04-19 19:08 Hollow Wings: hmm
2015-04-19 19:08 Hollow Wings: wait a sec
2015-04-19 19:09 Hollow Wings: http://puu.sh/hjtbr/d3baf0de5b.png
2015-04-19 19:09 Hollow Wings: here's your files' length
2015-04-19 19:09 Hollow Wings: even they're completely silenced
2015-04-19 19:09 EvilElvis: eh
2015-04-19 19:09 EvilElvis: wtf
2015-04-19 19:09 Hollow Wings: there's still 50ms of it
2015-04-19 19:09 EvilElvis: i changed it to yours
2015-04-19 19:09 EvilElvis: redownload it please
2015-04-19 19:09 Hollow Wings: yeah so i send a completely muted one to you
2015-04-19 19:10 EvilElvis: or you did it already?
2015-04-19 19:10 Hollow Wings: you can update again
2015-04-19 19:10 Hollow Wings: i'll redownload
2015-04-19 19:11 EvilElvis: done
2015-04-19 19:14 Hollow Wings: ok good now >.<
2015-04-19 19:14 EvilElvis: yay!
2015-04-19 19:16 EvilElvis: <3
2015-04-19 19:16 EvilElvis: thank you so much!
2015-04-19 19:16 Hollow Wings: >.<
2015-04-19 19:16 Hollow Wings: npnp :3

^the log