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Penguin

johnmedina999 wrote:

Penguin wrote:

If westo was mafia, he would have already voted Husa if Husa was town. Which means that it would have to be Westo / Husa as mafia instead of Husa / John.
Here are the possibilities, as I see them:
  1. Both Westo and Husa are scum. This means that the reason Westo is hesitant is because he doesn't want to kill a fellow Mafia member, despite what he says about feeling guilty of lynching a "fellow townie".
  2. Westo is scum and Husa is town. This is unlikely because he would have already won the game. One town Lynch and one nightkill = win for Mafia. On a side note, we can infer that everyone not voting for Husa as of this minute is town, because if not, the other Mafia member would have hammered him by now. Unless Husa is Mafia himself. If so, then I can't make a conclusion as affirmative as that.
  3. Westo is town. It doesn't matter whether Husa is scum of not because he can't know for sure. This would explain his hesitance.
If Husa is town, the first and second condition only leave the third: because Westo isn't voting for Husa I can infer that he is town. That only leaves Death, cravenfinder, and Penguin.
However, if Husa isn't, then I can't say anything for certain. I also can't say if Husa is town or not, since he barely even talks. Anyone could be his partner.

Penguin wrote:

But at the same time, YOU could possibly be trying to throw shade over towards Westo since you know that your teammate is on the chopping block right now.
Assuming Husa is town, I can't be scum, see above logic. If he is, I can't be his partner either. Keremal expressly stated in his last post that he would hammer Husa if it came down to it. I can't really give more evidence due to Kere not talking much, but he's relatively new, and was most likely being honest when saying that.
I don't understand how you can't be scum if Husa is or isn't mafia. Kere saying that he would vote husa if it came down to it could also just be to save his ass. Similar to the same situation with Westo if he is mafia.




But anyways..

From my point of view, it's either Husa/Westo, Husa/John, or Death/craven. I know that one of these are 100% correct since I know that I'm town 100% and by looking at the voting patterns. I understand that you guys can't be positive of me being town, but let's just assume some stuff real quick.

From John's point of view (including the assumption of my innocence), the main possibilities are Husa/Westo, and Death/craven, correct?. Now, this is assuming that both John and I are town. So if BOTH John and I are town, it has to be one of those two combos. Unless there are some crazy mind games with the voting, but I don't think that's happening.

Now if we look at Westo's point of view assuming John and I are town, then the only possibility would be Death/craven, right?

This is all from assuming 3 peoples innocence, which is a little risky. I've had a town read on Westo pretty much this entire game, so I'm confident in him being town. That leaves my point of view to either husa/john or death/craven.

So from my point of view, if John is innocent it HAS to be Death/craven. The only thing is, Husa has been really sketchy, so it's hard to assume John's innocence. I don't know how Husa plays though, so I can't even really say that it's exactly sketchy when it might just be him being normal.
Westonini

johnmedina999 wrote:

It's your neutrality that doesn't sit right with me. It seems to me that you're not taking anyone's side, you're trying not to offend anyone, and therefore you won't get accused of being Mafia, and you can pick people off at night.


I understand your viewpoint. But the truth is that since I have no hard evidence on anyone's roles, I'm still skeptical of everyone. So I'll only take a side when I agree with what a side is saying or if there's no other options left.
Death

johnmedina999 wrote:

Keremal expressly stated in his last post that he would hammer Husa if it came down to it.
He did not even come close to expressly stating this. At most he mentioned the very slight possibility that Husa is mafia for a single sentence in his last post, and then immediately proceeded to list the other possibility that he wasn't. And he also grouped me into the same Normal Townie group... I have already stated my opinion on that.

I'm sticking with my original theory that Husa/keremal were mafia, and as such, now Husa/john are mafia. I think john's most recent posts are a desperate attempt to dig himself out of the hole that keremal left for him. Would have been a better strategy to just vote Husa and then absolve yourself of all guilt. I bet you could have fooled everyone with that too.
johnmedina999
@Penguin
Hold on there. You can't leave yourself out of the polling. You can easily say that you're 100% town, but you can't prove it; no one can.

It seems like you're projecting the fact that you're town. If you were really town, you wouldn't have to yell it out to the world. You repeated the fact that you're town like three times. As you pointed out, we can't make that assumption. Stop acting scummy.
johnmedina999

Death wrote:

I think john's most recent posts are a desperate attempt to dig himself out of the hole that keremal left for him.
Kere didn't leave me in any "hole". He barely even posted. My posts so far in chronological order are as follows:
  1. Hello
  2. Pressure on Westo in order to get attention
  3. My reads so far + my response to Westo's post
  4. lol post
  5. Accusation of Penguin
None of that is "getting out of a hole". I've only been slapping a hornet's nest and seeing if any hornets come out.

By the way, you need to post more.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 2.6
[L-1] Husa (3) - Death, cravenfiner, Penguin
cravenfiner (1) - Husa
Westonini (1) - johnmedina999

Not Voting (1) - Westonini
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 16th 2019, 6:40 PM EST
johnmedina999
*get attention -> get information
Westonini
@Sakura

You misspelled john's name in a few places.

"jhonmedina999"

Just thought I'd point it out.
Death

johnmedina999 wrote:

Kere didn't leave me in any "hole". He barely even posted.
That's the hole.
Penguin

johnmedina999 wrote:

@Penguin
Hold on there. You can't leave yourself out of the polling. You can easily say that you're 100% town, but you can't prove it; no one can.

It seems like you're projecting the fact that you're town. If you were really town, you wouldn't have to yell it out to the world. You repeated the fact that you're town like three times. As you pointed out, we can't make that assumption. Stop acting scummy.
First of all, I stated at the beginning that I was making assumptions from MY viewpoint. Obviously, I'm going to leave myself out of the polling when I was showing my perspective.

Second of all, I only stated that I was town once. The other times I said I was town (I also included you in the town assumption, not just me) was to provide context for the assumptions/theories I was putting out there.

I would not be able to make that post without first providing the context of assuming I'm town.

Just a side note, you're wrong in saying that no one can prove that I'm town. There are plenty of town investigative roles that can confirm the innocence of a town member. I don't think that we have one currently, but nonetheless, it's possible.
Topic Starter
Sakura

Westonini wrote:

@Sakura

You misspelled john's name in a few places.

"jhonmedina999"

Just thought I'd point it out.
Thanks, fixeded
Husa

Penguin wrote:

So from my point of view, if John is innocent it HAS to be Death/craven. The only thing is, Husa has been really sketchy, so it's hard to assume John's innocence. I don't know how Husa plays though, so I can't even really say that it's exactly sketchy when it might just be him being normal.
youre correct. this is my first game that i dont know much about until now, ive read about what my role can do and i regret that i didnt take any action the first day.

its ok for me to get lynched (because i barely have the time to be here) but id feel really bad for not saying anything up until now or read about what the games is all like about. hope the day wont end after my elimination, if the vote runs like: the most voted would get lynched until the deadline. or iirc if id get the 4th vote ?
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after rereading through a little in day 1 id say penguin could be suspicious. mostly because penguin did a "friendly" vote straight up to me, that could have been the intention to make a random vote chain on me, OR, because he brought the game to me and would like to see how i would react(?) but then theres the townie lover abraker who said penguin was a clear town read or something. I dont have much info to give, it might be outdated, my brain is so small and i might have missed something or interperrrkekrjtered it wrong. theres also craven trying to give us a "reminder" when sakura is there to warn us about the deadline

ill unvote for now and see what happens next
Penguin

Husa wrote:

after rereading through a little in day 1 id say penguin could be suspicious. mostly because penguin did a "friendly" vote straight up to me, that could have been the intention to make a random vote chain on me,
I don't get why you guys are calling it a "friendly vote". It was just an RVS vote, which means Random Voting Stage. It meant nothing.
Westonini
ah fuck it. i dont really care anymore. lets just see what happens.

Vote: Husa
johnmedina999

Penguin wrote:

First of all, I stated at the beginning that I was making assumptions from MY viewpoint. Obviously, I'm going to leave myself out of the polling when I was showing my perspective.

Second of all, I only stated that I was town once. The other times I said I was town (I also included you in the town assumption, not just me) was to provide context for the assumptions/theories I was putting out there.

I would not be able to make that post without first providing the context of assuming I'm town.
You can always give an example of you helping town. Even if it's a bad example, it still helps. You being suspicious of abraker, and then him flipping town is a bad example, but it helps.

I like how you were calm and composed in your response. You always post like that on the forums, so it may just be that, but the fact that you didn't freak was good.

(Also yeah I forgot power roles existed, sorry about that.)

Husa wrote:

ive read about what my role can do and i regret that i didnt take any action the first day.
I don't know what to make of this.
johnmedina999
just read post above

"owh"
Penguin

Westonini wrote:

ah fuck it. i dont really care anymore. lets just see what happens.

Vote: Husa
Welp, looks like Husa's hitting the chopping block
Topic Starter
Sakura
I'm not dead, i was at the hospital and then too tired to come here, enjoy the extended twilight for now.
Husa

johnmedina999 wrote:

Penguin wrote:

First of all, I stated at the beginning that I was making assumptions from MY viewpoint. Obviously, I'm going to leave myself out of the polling when I was showing my perspective.

Second of all, I only stated that I was town once. The other times I said I was town (I also included you in the town assumption, not just me) was to provide context for the assumptions/theories I was putting out there.

I would not be able to make that post without first providing the context of assuming I'm town.
You can always give an example of you helping town. Even if it's a bad example, it still helps. You being suspicious of abraker, and then him flipping town is a bad example, but it helps.

I like how you were calm and composed in your response. You always post like that on the forums, so it may just be that, but the fact that you didn't freak was good.

(Also yeah I forgot power roles existed, sorry about that.)

Husa wrote:

ive read about what my role can do and i regret that i didnt take any action the first day.
I don't know what to make of this.
action by not talking at all
Husa

Westonini wrote:

ah fuck it. i dont really care anymore. lets just see what happens.

Vote: Husa
because:

Husa wrote:

ive read about what my role can do and i regret that i didnt take any action the first day.
he knows what i can do and wants to try kill me off before he gets find out?

Vote: Westonini
Penguin

Husa wrote:

he knows what i can do and wants to try kill me off before he gets find out?

Vote: Westonini
yikes... how should we break the news to husa?

Husa, the ropes already around your neck and there's no taking it off.
Husa
x_x
johnmedina999

Sakura wrote:

I'm not dead, i was at the hospital and then too tired to come here, enjoy the extended twilight for now.
Oh man, I hope everything's alright.
cravenfiner
oh extended twilight, and yeah hope youll be ok sakura
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 2.7
[LYNCH] Husa (4) - Death, cravenfiner, Penguin, Westonini
Westonini (1) - johnmedina999

Not Voting (1) - Husa
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch

Husa Town Seer has been lynched Day 2
Topic Starter
Sakura
It is now, Night 2. Deadline is 24 hours from this post.
Send me all your actions via PM, you may change your action as many times as you want before deadline, if i dont receive any action by deadline, it will count as No Action.
You may also PM me No Action to cancel your last submitted action
Topic Starter
Sakura
In addition if EVERY player with a night active action PMs me wanting to acceledate the night, night will end early.
Topic Starter
Sakura
No one has died Night 2

It is now Day 3, Deadline: Feb 23rd: 10:08 PM EST

Vote Count 3.0
Not voting (5) - Penguin, Cravenfiner, Westonini, johnmedina999, Death
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch
Death
Not sure how I'm not dead. But since you guys probably want to lynch me today. I can say with 99% certainty that the mafia is penguin, craven, or Westonini. Take that as you will.

Also, how are you gonna be a seer and not say anything all game....
Death
My guess is Penguin is definitely one due to how willing he was to lynch Husa after I first proposed him. After that would be Craven, but I won't rule Westonini out.

Vote: Penguin
cravenfiner
does that mean that you are an investigator or something? since you didnt say john was part of the mafia
Death
Either that mafia voted to not kill anyone last night (which would be really stupid), or they tried to kill john... and failed.

By admitting that I'm most likely going to die tonight. But since I was probably going to be lynched today anyway, it's worth it. Also if the mafia lose that would be great too.
cravenfiner
oh, wait, nevermind i see why you didnt include john in that i understand now
Penguin

Death wrote:

My guess is Penguin is definitely one due to how willing he was to lynch Husa after I first proposed him. After that would be Craven, but I won't rule Westonini out.
Regarding the husa vote, I was already suspicious of his lack of posts, so that's why I wasn't hesitant to start up a vote for him. Getting a vote out for him got the ball rolling and we got more information out of it. Saving my vote would help less so because more votes = more panic = more info.

It's pretty clear that John is town now since husa was town. I'm 100% sure of that.
Westonini

Death wrote:

Either that mafia voted to not kill anyone last night (which would be really stupid), or they tried to kill john... and failed.


Ah. I was confused as to why no one died. I guess I should google the roles again.

As soon as I saw Husa's role, I thought it was all over.
Penguin
so if mafia did attack and fail last night, then John is confirmed and I'd be fairly certain that death is town as well because of his "hint-hint nudge-nudge". There's no reason for mafia to hold their attack, so I'm pretty sure that Death and John are confirmed. It's possible that Death wanted to quick claim Doctor before the real doc did because he knew that he attacked someone who was healed. No one else has claimed doc though, so he's most likely a safe town.
johnmedina999
Hold on.

How come everyone's assuming that I was the target?
This is more for learning, I only have one other game under my belt.
Penguin

johnmedina999 wrote:

Hold on.

How come everyone's assuming that I was the target?
This is more for learning, I only have one other game under my belt.
My assumption was that Death healed you last night. That's what I interpreted from his post earlier. I'm pretty sure I'm right, but I guess I could be wrong?
Death

johnmedina999 wrote:

Hold on.

How come everyone's assuming that I was the target?
This is more for learning, I only have one other game under my belt.
I know you are town due to my role. And I also know you were the target last night for the same reason (unless mafia didn't target anyone, which is unlikely as I said before).

Penguin is assuming you are town purely because Husa was as well. Or maybe it is because they targeted you last night, who knows.
cravenfiner
oh i was thinking john was bulletproof
Penguin

Death wrote:

johnmedina999 wrote:

Hold on.

How come everyone's assuming that I was the target?
This is more for learning, I only have one other game under my belt.
Penguin is assuming you are town purely because Husa was as well. Or maybe it is because they targeted you last night, who knows.
I'm assuming he's town both because of husa and because I believe that you're doc and that you healed him.
Westonini
So to clarify, you're hinting that you're a doctor right?

Then you chose to heal John because he was the only one not to vote Husa, who was revealed to be a townie?
Death
Something like that
Westonini
I was always curious, Penguin how come you always believed that I was a townie? I always thought that it may have been because you were an investigator or something, since you started saying it more often after the first night phase. But apparently that was Husa's role so..

Was it really just a read? It seems like there wasn't one time that you doubted my innocence.
Penguin

Westonini wrote:

I was always curious, Penguin how come you always believed that I was a townie? I always thought that it may have been because you were an investigator or something, since you started saying it more often after the first night phase. But apparently that was Husa's role so..

Was it really just a read? It seems like there wasn't one time that you doubted my innocence.
It was a read for the most part. There were times where I doubted you being town though. I thought that you weren't mafia for the majority of yesterday because of the votes and how you had the chance to just end husa for a while (which you did end up doing abruptly). Seeing as how I believe Death and John to be town, it's pretty obvious you know that I suspect you and craven.

Your question here kinda seems like you're going to try and set me up for suspicion to be honest.
Westonini
Well assuming what we think happened during night really happened, that's really all we can do at this point. At the very least I was genuinely curious.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.1
[L-2]Penguin (1) - Death

Not voting (4) - cravenfiner, Westonini, johnmedina999, Penguin
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 23rd: 10:08 PM EST
johnmedina999
If Death really is a doctor, then that only leaves Westonini, cravenfinder, and Penguin. Craven is the least spoken here, so he's a prime suspect; that leaves only Penguin and Westonini. If Death isn't a doctor, then [/i]someone[/i] had to be.
johnmedina999
Also, why did you decide to hammer Husa, Westo? Is it because you knew he was Town, and you would have won if a Doctor hadn't interfered?
cravenfiner
maybe he was just taking a chance, its all we really can do here

and i cant really defend myself when it comes to me being a suspect since i usually dont talk much, in real life mafia or online
Westonini

johnmedina999 wrote:

Also, why did you decide to hammer Husa, Westo? Is it because you knew he was Town, and you would have won if a Doctor hadn't interfered?


There wasn't any big reasons. It didn't seem like anything was going to change any time soon and Husa never really gave any points that felt reassuring to me. I gave them a chance to explain themselves but I wasn't too satisfied by what they said. I had some feelings that Husa was suspicious and others that made me think they were innocent. So with little time before the day ended, I just decided to go with the vote.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.2
[L-2]Penguin (1) - Death

Not voting (4) - cravenfiner, Westonini, johnmedina999, Penguin
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 23rd: 10:08 PM EST
johnmedina999
To be perfectly honest, I don't know what to think anymore. You would think this late into the game there would be so much info that it would be 100% clear who is scum and who is not. But for some reason, I think it got harder to make that decision.
johnmedina999
Death is probably the guy who saved me, so I thank you for that.

Westonini has that hammer last in-game day which he explains is "I got bored". You don't just kill someone without hesitation like that. We still had some 12 hours before the deadline. But I digress.
Penguin gives me bad Mafia vibes but I don't have anything to back it up. He's trying really hard to come off as town, I think. But again, I have no dirt on him which would close the case.
cravenfinder has just not posted at all almost. idk. I want to suggest lynching him but if we fuck up one lynch from here on out we lose. He hasn't posted much and that's scummy but we saw last in-game day that this isn't always the case.

Again, I'm kind of at a crossroads here with no clear direction. I'm kind of freaking out right now >_<
Westonini

johnmedina999 wrote:

Westonini has that hammer last in-game day which he explains is "I got bored". You don't just kill someone without hesitation like that. We still had some 12 hours before the deadline. But I digress.


I mean I hesitated for days until I decided to actually vote for Husa. I was initially skeptical about the things they said. There were several things Husa said during the time that I waited, but regardless they still seemed the most suspicious to me out of everyone.
cravenfiner
just wanna correct a mistake ive been seeing with my name, it's cravenfiner, not cravenfinder
anyways
it might have to come down to who we think it is again since anything can be taken as suspicious and theres 3 suspects on the table
things arent looking that great for me since i havent posted much huh
johnmedina999

cravenfiner wrote:

just wanna correct a mistake ive been seeing with my name, it's cravenfiner, not cravenfinder
Oh, sorry about that, hehe. Didn't notice.

Westonini
me neither tbh

sorry.
Death
If penguin is mafia then abraker's read was pretty bad
Westonini
Are you talking about the one where he said "Ok got the reaction I wanted. Penguin is a safe town read"?

I'm honestly not sure what abraker's read back then was all about. I never bought that he was "drunk" and all his responses were so suspicious. I mean he ended up being a townie so maybe he actually was drunk? I mean it seemed like he just said that because he was trying to get Penguin off his back, but if that was the case the way he handled it really wasn't that great.
johnmedina999
https://old.ppy.sh/forum/p/6966360

This is the best I can find to solve this. He posted this around the same time as the fight (15-16 days ago) and he posted "blue moon belgian white" which are alcohol. So maybe he was drunk?
johnmedina999
Which means we can't trust abraker's read.
Penguin

Westonini wrote:

I mean I hesitated for days until I decided to actually vote for Husa. I was initially skeptical about the things they said. There were several things Husa said during the time that I waited, but regardless they still seemed the most suspicious to me out of everyone.
That doesn't really mean much since it's a good play for mafia to do that anyways to come off as "indecisive" to act like town.

johnmedina999 wrote:

This is the best I can find to solve this. He posted this around the same time as the fight (15-16 days ago) and he posted "blue moon belgian white" which are alcohol. So maybe he was drunk?
To be fair, I can list off like 10-20 types of beer, it's not too difficult. I have no idea what abraker was thinking or what he was trying to do, so idk. In my opinion everything that abraker said is moot, especially since it was day 1 with no actual info besides reactions.
Penguin

johnmedina999 wrote:

Penguin gives me bad Mafia vibes but I don't have anything to back it up. He's trying really hard to come off as town, I think. But again, I have no dirt on him which would close the case.
I don't really get how explaining my thought process and my perspective is scummy.
cravenfiner

Westonini wrote:

I mean it seemed like he just said that because he was trying to get Penguin off his back, but if that was the case the way he handled it really wasn't that great.

I agree with westo here
johnmedina999
In what sense? You agree that abraker didn't handle it well? In that case, you would agree that abraker's read on Penguin isn't reliable.

Or do you agree that abraker was just being stupid?
cravenfiner
that abraker didnt handle it well
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.3
[L-2]Penguin (1) - Death

Not voting (4) - cravenfiner, Westonini, johnmedina999, Penguin
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 23rd: 10:08 PM EST
Westonini
I don't think anyone considered abraker's read to be accurate, even back then.
johnmedina999
What other leads do we have?
Westonini
Maybe we could get some questions that craven, Penguin, and I all need to answer. And then whoever seems the most suspicious out of us three gets the boot? I dunno.
Death

Westonini wrote:

Maybe we could get some questions that craven, Penguin, and I all need to answer. And then whoever seems the most suspicious out of us three gets the boot? I dunno.
Not sure how that will prove anything. I really doubt we would be able to come up with anything good enough. Assuming there are two mafia (technically we still don't know whether or not this is the case?), we would then have two mafia coming up with questions for themselves to answer... In fact, that would most likely work against the town.
Westonini
Well if we did take that route, I was planning on making either you or John come up with some questions to ask. Since we're assuming you guys are both town.

It wouldn't really prove anything, it would just be a way of getting responses to get a better feel for a person. But I guess you guys already have your thoughts on everyone else from whats happened so far. Yeah I dunno I just kinda threw that idea out there since I'm not sure what else to talk about.
johnmedina999
Well, I guess it's fair game on who we lynch. Westonini is the only person who I have dirt on (even though he dispelled it pretty well last in-game day) so I'm going to vote for him for now. Probably gonna end up changing my vote though.

Vote: Westonini
Death
Very eventful thread recently.
Westonini
yeah...
cravenfiner
no idea what to do tbh
Topic Starter
Sakura
Penguin has been prodded
johnmedina999
To summarize the situation:

The vote is

1 on Penguin by Death
1 on Westonini by johnmedina999

We need to vote for someone or we lose. We have narrowed it down to three people, so it's a 2/3 chance to lynch Mafia. Westonini? Cravenfiner? Penguin? What do you guys think? Who do you want to vote for? Also, use this time to prove why you're not guilty, since all three of you are suspects.
cravenfiner
who ill vote for, im not sure

and to defend myself, im not sure how to do this, saying anything won’t really do much for me, i could try using my role to prove it but that’s too risky
Westonini
Well I'm not too sure what else to say to defend myself since everythings been said when John questioned me in the previous day. I mean if anyone has anything to ask me then I can try to answer it.

Also I just find it strange how Penguin is unusually quiet lately. Normally they talk quite frequently. Even with not much to talk about the rest of us have been at least communicating somewhat.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.4
[L-2] Penguin (1) - Death
[L-2] Westonini (1) - johnmedina999

Not voting (3) - cravenfiner, Westonini, Penguin
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 23rd: 10:08 PM EST
Dialect
official mafia day is feb 23 now
Death

cravenfiner wrote:

who ill vote for, im not sure

and to defend myself, im not sure how to do this, saying anything won’t really do much for me, i could try using my role to prove it but that’s too risky
I've already outed my role, so how risky could it possibly be?

johnmedina999 wrote:

We need to vote for someone or we lose. We have narrowed it down to three people, so it's a 2/3 chance to lynch Mafia. Westonini? Cravenfiner? Penguin? What do you guys think? Who do you want to vote for? Also, use this time to prove why you're not guilty, since all three of you are suspects.
1/3 if there is only 1 mafia, again, we still technically don't know whether or not that is the case.
cravenfiner
i have a one-shot role and i dont wanna use it unless im 100% sure, and im not 100% sure
Death
one-shot mafia boss
cravenfiner
lvl 100 mafia boss, but only for a moment
Penguin

Westonini wrote:

Also I just find it strange how Penguin is unusually quiet lately. Normally they talk quite frequently. Even with not much to talk about the rest of us have been at least communicating somewhat.
I just haven't had anything to add to the discussion until now. It really seems like you've been trying to put suspicion on me though.

As far as who we should vote, I'm very confident that Death and John are town, so obviously I'm fine with voting Westo or craven if there's two mafia. I don't really know what the smartest play would be if we were to believe that there's only one mafia.
Westonini

Penguin wrote:

It really seems like you've been trying to put suspicion on me though.


Well I don't exactly want to, but if Death & John are both town and there are two mafia members then I already know who they are. Although if there really is only one mafioso that complicates things a bit more.
Westonini
I've also been thinking, if Penguin and Craven really are both mafia members they both could have quickly voted me back-to-back since it only required two more votes to lynch me. But its been over 24 hours and that hasn't happened. There are some possible answers to this.

1. There's only one mafia member
2. They'd have to both vote me quickly one after the other else John could unvote and it might make them seem suspicious
3. Somehow we got our information wrong and neither Craven nor Penguin are mafia. In that case there'd be something that we aren't seeing
Death
4. You are mafia

You left that one out.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Less than 72 hours left
Westonini

Death wrote:

4. You are mafia

You left that one out.


Heh, I knew someone would bring that up.

That was coming from my perspective anyways. You're free to interpret that situation however you want of course.
Death
Well, we only have a short amount of time left. And if we don't vote for anyone, mafia is probably going to win. So I'm going to assume anyone that doesn't vote is a mafioso. I think it would be a smart idea to for the rest of the town to assume the same thing.

At the very least, that should get everyone to vote for someone.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.5
[L-2] Penguin (1) - Death
[L-2] Westonini (1) - johnmedina999

Not voting (3) - cravenfiner, Westonini, Penguin
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 23rd: 10:08 PM EST
johnmedina999
We have two days left.

Death, do you want to lynch penguin? If so, I can change my vote, and we would only need one more for hammer.
Westonini
Well if we have no objections that Death/John are town I only have two other people to vote for.

John already requested some time ago that we all say what we can to defend ourselves, so I won't wait around for that anymore.

Vote: Craven

I'll just leave this here for now. I can always change it if need be.
cravenfiner
im 99% sure death and john are town, havent seen any arguements against them and they seem safe to me

sorry westo
https://gyazo.com/a430ab2296b9fc8bcae143d231a05793
is it bad that i relied on a wheel to make a decision

Vote: Westonini
Topic Starter
Sakura

cravenfiner wrote:

https://gyazo.com/a430ab2296b9fc8bcae143d231a05793
is it bad that i relied on a wheel to make a decision

Sakura wrote:

Rules:
- Do not use any form of provable randomness, saying that you flipped a coin and acted on that is fine, proving that you flipped said coin is not.
This is a warning but please dont do that again.
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