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101Gingers

IceDynamix wrote:

101Gingers wrote:

-snip-

I can see where you want to go with this, but making a orb-skin for mania would be, as already said, be very time consuming.
It is possible, no doubt. Maybe even I could make the orb-skin addition, if I had time.

My take on things is that you have to put in effort to do things, instead of always relying on other people.
If there is something you don't like, change it yourself.
Can't change it yourself? Ask someone to assist you. But don't ask them to do it for you. You'll learn more if you do it yourself.


Edit: typo


I 100% agree with that. I'd be more than okay with taking the attempt and uploading my own changes if the post and skin creator agrees, I don't want to take creative liberty with someone else's work without that okay though.
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Well, I’ll give the okay to you!

I’d love to see what you make!
If you want to share, pass it to me and maybe i’ll merge/link it here in the post with your name! :D
ababa

-yuo- wrote:

also, what’s ColourX and what does that do?
Background color of each lane in mania.
Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------PINK - SMALL UPDATE-------------------



6 OCT 2018 [PINK v1.1]

  • Small Fixes:
    - Refine top bar in song select.

    I still need to implement these changes to GREEN.


The alignment of the dotted followpoints change as the CS changes (I think. Maybe it's just HR, but I can't fix this issue as this is osu's fault.)

Editing the mania background to become darker is too time consuming (desperate for time) so I'll leave that as it is. People would just use background dim anyway.

Finally got my homework done. I only have one day till I get a stack more though. Enjoy my intensive care!



-------------------RED IN BETA!-------------------


6 OCT 2018 [RED b6-10]
  • NIGHTGATE RED BETA NOW OUT
    Come test out Nightgate in RED! Very kindly patched by the amazing DaPrimeAtce.
    We need to figure out the preferences, as most of them disappeared for some reason. But otherwise, the main skin seems all good to my eyes.

    If you see any issues, please report them with the version details seen in the mode select panel.
h3oCharles
Red AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
also why is rebrand.ly an unsafe site, Chrome and COMODO are not happy with it

ok, I got it, but then I look at the colors and it doesn't seem right... it's FF0208 and not FC2738
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Yeh, it was patched by DaPrimeAtce using hue shift method so colours are probably not that precise.

But well, it works and it’s a decently high standard don’t you think?

I haven’t had much problems woth rebrandly, maybe it’s unsafe because people do dodgy things with it... Tell me if theres an issue though. I just use it to cound downloads and thats all.
Matt2e2

-yuo- wrote:

I haven’t had much problems with rebrand.ly, maybe it’s unsafe because people do dodgy things with it... Tell me if there's an issue though. I just use it to count downloads and that's all.

If you want something more reliable that can track downloads I recommend you use MediaFire instead.
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Mediafire doesn’t seem to have a direct download link, so i’d need to redirect to their page.

Then their page pops up ads everywhere, and the actual download button is reletivley hard to find.

Bad experience = -yuo- won’t use
DaPrimeAtce

-yuo- wrote:

Mediafire doesn’t seem to have a direct download link, so i’d need to redirect to their page.

Then their page pops up ads everywhere, and the actual download button is reletivley hard to find.

Bad experience = -yuo- won’t use


Not to mention, half the time the link doesn't work if you upload to MediaFire.
longnguyen2004

-yuo- wrote:

Mediafire doesn’t seem to have a direct download link, so i’d need to redirect to their page.

Then their page pops up ads everywhere, and the actual download button is reletivley hard to find.

Bad experience = -yuo- won’t use

It's actually possible to get direct download link by inspecting the download button. But it's extremely unreliable. Sometimes it works, sometimes it just redirects you back to the download page. Basically it's a mess.
Topic Starter
-yuo-
yep;
mediafire: nope.

Same goes with Mega, Good presentation, no ads (well, they advertise themselves a lot which is the same level of annoying), but downloading is weird and no direct again.

Dropbox was great. It had an easy direct download link, automatic with no UI, no ads, easy download, no weird GDrive Virus Scanning. It was the best one and was my previous system but it's download limit of 20GB/day and a ban for a week if it's reached left many users unable to download. (which, i'm quite proud of but also annoyed at. Thanks everyone!)
longnguyen2004

-yuo- wrote:

but downloading is weird and no direct again.


That's because MEGA uses end to end encryption. The file is stored on their servers in encrypted form, and they can't decrypt it unless they have the key (which they don't). When you download a file, it's decrypted on your computer, not on their servers. So yeah, no direct.
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Ah, that's cool. Mega imo is pretty good for personal / person-to-person use, but not so much in the case of skinning (person-to-world)... Encryption wouldn't really do much


EDIT:
-------------------RED UPDATE-------------------


10 OCT 2018 [RED b10-10]
  • Not much has changed, but I've merged my new multi designs and new menu buttons. Also fixed the info panel (ish, date says 8 not 10 because thats when I did them, and it's such a tedious task to fix so I'm not gonna do it for a silly 8.)

    If you see any issues, please report them with the version details seen in the mode select panel.

    Seriously, Updating all the screen sizes and colours is suuuch a mind-melting task.


-------------------ORANGE: BUG TESTING-------------------


Yes, Nightgate Orange is nearly ready, It's being bugfixed at the moment. The plan between me and DaPrimeAtce:

DaPrimeAtce converts the rest of Red and Orange files, Preferences especially.
I scan through his work to fix bugs and visual anomalies, also add my recent design improvements.

Together we aim to finish Red and Orange sometime soon. I'm sniping my homework the moment they come at me. Lets Go!!
longnguyen2004
Yeah, the encryption is good if you want to transfer private information, but skins aren't really that private anyway. I have to say the only reason that I use MEGA was the 50 GB of storage.
Vaeporeons
i just want the white version but its gonna be the last one right? seeya in 2 yrs oof
Topic Starter
-yuo-
- hopefully not -

I'm working on these next, chosen based on Demand:
Blue
CREAM
Purple

I think DaPrimeAtce will work on these next:
Cyan
Yellow

We're working to finish the preferences folder for red and get Orange up to beta currently.

Sorry for any delay! (like, 2 years you say) Im just sooo busy it's hard to believe. Now i'm sniping any assigned work as quickly as I can to get this done for you all. Hopefully they don't get me.
CRINGENAYSH
the skin is amazing the only problem i have is that the slider circle is too big and the spinner is too distracting. If you could make the slider follow circle smaller and maybe tone down the spinner brightness or take out some elements of the spinner it will be perfect. Also the slider sound is pretty distracting and you could tone down a bit the colors for the 100, 50, and the miss and maybe make them a bit smaller. If you decide to change this pls do it for the pink version too i liked it the most
:) :) :) :) :) :)
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Have you tried the skin’s preferences (settings) system?

Open the skin folder and you’ll see a 2 - Preferences folder.

I think you’ll find most of what you want in there -
- less slider ball
- less spinner
- different hitbursts

yeh just take a look!

Note: Unofficially coloured and beta colours do not have this just yet.


-------------------RED UPDATE b27-10-------------------


27 OCT 2018 [RED b27-10]
  • Added Preferences Folder.
    Fixed a few bugs.

    This release seems pretty complete, so let me know if there are any bugs!
h3oCharles
red 16-10 HD 27 oct 2018

some spinner elements are not colored properly
why is the main color a combo color?
pause screen border is misaligned

and 21-9 SD

ranking title is misaligned
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Thanks for the pickups. Which spinner elements are these?
h3oCharles
well, it's not really some, but one, middle2 in minimal spinner
and for some reason there's rpm, clear and spin images in detailed spinner idk why it should be there
Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------ABOUT TIME: CYAN BETA-------------------

I've gotta say, this one looks amazing.

4 DEC 2018 [CYN b4-12]
  • NIGHTGATE CYAN BETA NOW OUT
    Come test out Nightgate in CYAN! Very kindly patched by the amazing DaPrimeAtce.
    I hope I didn't miss any bugs or files.
    If you see any issues, please report them with the version details seen in the mode select panel.


h30Charles, I'll look into them next.

-------------------RED UPDATE b4-12-------------------


4 DEC 2018 [RED b4-12]
  • Sorry for the two month wait...
    Misplaced Green Minimal Spinner Element fixed
    Patched in small design changes (More Readable menu buttons, Multiplayer Refinements)
    If there are no other issues for the next month, RED will be finalised and marked as finished.
Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------YELLOW JUST POSTED-------------------

On a roll with another colour. DaPrimeAtce's help is really, helpful. Say thanks to him for me

5 DEC 2018 [YLW b5-12]
  • aaaand yellow is out... DaPrimeAtce is really on the roll with his help!
    As usual, if you see any issues, please report them with the version details seen in the mode select panel.



Just thought I'd post a fun fact here:
I wanted to explain this since long ago, but never actually got to it.
I've heard many 'complaints' about the spinner being ultra distracting. This is intentional as it's designed to grab your attention when it appears AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. This is why theres a giant SPIN! text, elements that are waay out from the middle and four 'inverted corners' pointing to the middle of the spinner.
This makes you able to recognise the spinner in a SNAP and results in less 'recognition lag' between you, noticing the spinner appear and you actually knowing what to do and spin it.

Of course though, there's the options if you want to dial it down a little.
h3oCharles
red 4 dec 2018 16-10 16-10

in extras folder, smoke option has a smoke folder inside of it
again, there's a combo color that is the same as the main color, this is very noticable with 90% ring <-- thank goodness for alternative colors in skin.ini
ctb colors in skin.ini are green
Topic Starter
-yuo-
All of these issues are in red?

Also, All red combo colours are intentional. Multicolours looked very bad with red, but Maybe i'll differentiate the shades a bit more.
h3oCharles

-yuo- wrote:

On a roll with another colour. DaPrimeAtce's help is really, helpful. Say thanks to him for me

Remind me later that I owe him supporter

-yuo- wrote:

All of these issues are in red?

yup, I wanted to give you proof that it ain't finished lol
Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------CREAM IS OUT! (aka white)-------------------

Did this one myself :D DaPrimeAtce's off doing the orange options as of now.

8 DEC 2018 [CRM b5-12]

  • Have some Vanilla. I'm sorry if you where looking for white... (it was never part of the plan)

    The reason it's cream and not white is to make the cursor and cursor-movement elements stand out. In this skin, white stands for things that relate to your cursor. If the whole skin is white, you cannot relate white to cursor movements.

    It's kind of like: White = the path you are meant to take.
    Everything you see in this skin, including weird design choices like a massive spinner, combo colours and cream colour is designed to enhance readability of osu to optimise your human vision.


h3oCharles: I'll be looking at those next.
Matt2e2

-yuo- wrote:

-------------------CREAM IS OUT! (aka white)-------------------

Did this one myself :D DaPrimeAtce's off doing the orange options as of now.

8 DEC 2018 [CRM b5-12]

  • Have some Vanilla. I'm sorry if you where looking for white... (it was never part of the plan)

    The reason it's cream and not white is to make the cursor and cursor-movement elements stand out. In this skin, white stands for things that relate to your cursor. If the whole skin is white, you cannot relate white to cursor movements.

    It's kind of like: White = the path you are meant to take.
    Everything you see in this skin, including weird design choices like a massive spinner, combo colours and cream colour is designed to enhance readability of osu to optimise your human vision.


h3oCharles: I'll be looking at those next.


Here's some small details you might have missed:
  1. the mode selection text says NIGHTGATE CYAN BETA
  2. taiko-drum-inner is completely flipped
  3. scorebar-colour is not aligned with scorebar-bg
  4. Fade In's canvas gets in the way of Sudden Death, which may cause inconvenieces for mania players
h3oCharles
cream 16-10 HD 8 dec 2018 - are you sure these are the right combo colors?

and I can't download cyan and yellow, Chrome thinks that these files are dangerous
DaPrimeAtce

h3oCharles wrote:

...and I can't download cyan and yellow, Chrome thinks that these files are dangerous


I get that popup too, it mainly happens if the file is over 100mb. (or something around that size?)
I'm not too sure why it does that, maybe you know why?

Matt2e2 wrote:

...the mode selection text says NIGHTGATE CYAN BETA


-yuo-, were you making the skin based off of Nightgate Cyan?
Topic Starter
-yuo-

Google Drive wrote:

"VIRUS VIRUS VIRUS"

This is just google drive being lazy and saying "I can't scan the file for virusus because it's bigger than 100mb" or something like that. I may look into MediaFire if I find a way to bypass it's annoying download UI and instead use an instant-download link.

Matt2e2 wrote:

"I found some problems"

Thanks! Fix those soon.
Also, the scorebar-colour is designed in that way. It's meant to be some kind of afterimage above the HP line so you can more easily read it without looking up from your gameplay.

h30Charles wrote:

"Combo colours... again"

Will look into the issue. I did have a skin.ini mishap, maybe it slipped through.


DaPrimeAtce wrote:

-yuo-, were you making the skin based off of Nightgate Cyan?

The version panel is edited directly from my PSD and not converted from the other colours. I guess I forgot to change the 'CYAN' from my last save though.
The rest of the skin is converted from green.
DaPrimeAtce
Here's an issue I encountered while trying to download Nightgate Cyan and Yellow on Google Chrome:

Problem: "Google Chrome has blocked this file because it could be harmful to your PC."

How I had to work around this error: I had to go to my Chrome downloads area and click "Keep file" which caused a popup saying "Keep dangerous file?" with the buttons "Yes" and "No" and so obviously I clicked "Yes" or else Chrome would have discarded the file.

Cause: The files uploaded were not OSK files, they were ZIP folders.

So here's a suggestion perhaps: Maybe try exporting them as an OSK file instead? (The problem is only with those two skins, I had no problem downloading Cream/White.

(Now I know what h3oCharles was talking about
Topic Starter
-yuo-
I'll check if the extension is proper. osk files are actually just zip files though.
DaPrimeAtce

h3oCharles wrote:

again, there's a combo color that is the same as the main color, this is very noticable with 90% ring <-- thank goodness for alternative colors in skin.ini


Which one?
h3oCharles

DaPrimeAtce wrote:

Which one?

Combo#: 255,0,0 //neon
DaPrimeAtce
"Combo#: 255,0,0 //neon"

Ok, thanks, I will look into that.

UPDATE: I was looking at the other skin.ini files, and I'm starting to wonder if this:

[Colours]
Combo1: 255,0,0 //neon
Combo#: 178,1,56 //blood
Combo2: 220,46,98 //hot
Combo#: 228,134,164 //pink
Combo#: 143,32,65 //crimson

should look like this:

[Colours]
Combo1: 241,66,106 //red
Combo2: 255,159,247 //pink
Combo3: 255,204,0 //yellow
Combo4: 2,255,160 //green
Combo5: 255,128,0 //orange
Combo6: 104,80,218 //purple
Combo7: 19,189,255 //aqua

I honestly have no idea, I'll have to ask -yuo-, these colours are only in Nightgate Red, and they should either be removed and replaced, or it should be fixed, and it should be applied to the other skins.

Until I get a response from -yuo-, I'm just going to replace those colours with the default ones, and I'm going to save the text for these other colours onto my desktop.
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Just fixed the zip files in the downloads. Hopefully they are all good now

The red-themed combo colours are intentional for red. Other colours introduced glare and distracted away from the darkness to red.

Red is not detected by the cones in our eyes. When our eyes look at something dark, the cones are relaxed and become inactive. The rods then go dominant over the cones and start sensing the dim light. When you interrupt this with a brighter colour, this is reset and red becomes 'darker' again. Red is frequently used in UI for pilots and stargazing, since it doesn't reset our night vision. When a brighter colour is introduced, the eye will become less sensitive to red.

This was the reason why i chose to keep the combo colours red, to reduce glare. It also changes where you align the approach circle with the hitcircle. Since the combo colour is brighter than red, you may tend to align the approach circles with the inside of the hitcircle instead of the red border.

Well that's the main reason behind the all-red colours, i'm not sure if it's working well though. I'll probably need more testing.
Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------BLUE IS OUT-------------------

Aandd here's another one. I recorded the entire process of recolouring this one so maybe i'll upload it somewhere in the future.

12 DEC 2018 [BLU b12-12]

  • Got blue done. I heard this is a long awaited one, so I hope it's good enough.

    I'm very unsure about the combocolours and the deepness of the blue in general. Although it seems a little dark to see, I actually did better when playing compared to white. I think it's because the cursor and the white cursor elements stand out really well...

    If they really don't work out then maybe as a last priority i'll recolour it a little lighter and add refinements.

    I'd also like to note that I haven't really tested the new colours a heap because my main goal here is to just get them DONE. I have a massive stack of homework to do so i thought i'd blast through this to clear my mind a little. Maybe when I get that work done I'll come back and refine, but main goal right now is to get the colours usable and bug free. (not nessesarily ultra-refined.)


Who knew skinning could be so tiring... Well, just purple and bugfixes to go!
h3oCharles
I'll take a look at these in 2 weeks, my school has realized that it's the end of the semester and that classes don't have enough grades so these 2 weeks are jam-packed with tests xd
Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------Bugfixes for Red.-------------------


13 DEC 2018 [RED b13-12]

  • A Nightgate Red bugfix.

    - CTB colors in skin.ini are green - fixed
    - Redone combo colours. This time I actually tested them. Ended up with the ones you see when you update (pink, yellow, cyan, purple). (orange, green were removed from the cycle as green/red looked horrible, and orange didn't provide enough contrast with the red, making the approach circles blend in)
    - Preferences cursor smoke folder had a redundant folder inside it. Removed.



-------------------Bugfixes for Cream, too.-------------------


13 DEC 2018 [CRM b13-12]

  • More bugfixes, this time for cream.

    - Taiko Drum misalignment fixed
    - Version panel doesn't say it's cyan anymore.
    [quote="Matt2e2”]
    - scorebar-colour is not aligned with scorebar-bg (this is by design)
    - Fade In's canvas gets in the way of Sudden Death, which may cause inconvenieces for mania players (I can't fix this due to the way that image works, and it hasn't been an issue for the last two years anyway.[/quote]


-------------------ORANGE NOW OUT-------------------

13 DEC 2018 [ORN b13-12]
  • NIGHTGATE ORANGE just out
    Just the usual... Report any issues so I can fix them.

    DaPrimeAtce did this one ;)
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