Weber wrote:

The snapping inconsistency with the Easy diff could be fixed if you just moved 01:33:227 (93227|1) - to the next 1/3rd tick or make 01:33:040 (93040|2) - a 1/1 LN (the better alternative thanks tofu). At the end of the day, the note lands directly between two 1/3rd sounds in the music, so it's basically unsnapped.

Insp1r3 wrote:

Yes I am here for mod thank

1|2|3|4

Kaito's Lv. 1

00:01:352 (1352|0) - Could move this to 2 and make it an LN that extends to 00:01:915 - It was a LN before wtf. Oh well, applied I guess
00:06:790 (6790|1,6977|0) - Ctrl + J Sure, applied
00:21:415 (21415|1) - Make this a double I don't see the reason to make this a double. I'll keep
01:01:915 (61915|2,62665|2) - Delete these Agreeable, applied
01:05:665 (65665|2) - Make this a double Too soft of a sound, I'm only representing the loud af crashes as doubles, and this one doesn't fall under it
01:10:165 (70165|1) - ^ ^^^
01:33:415 (93415|0) - Delete There's an actual reason why this is a double, so I'll refuse
01:33:415 (93415|3,93790|1) - Ctrl + J and move one column to the left No reason to, and as I rejected the past suggestion, it makes the pattern akward
01:45:415 (105415|3) - Maybe make this a double True, applied

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Insp1r3 wrote:

Yes I am here for mod thank

1|2|3|4

-snip-

Lv. 3

00:07:540 - Unmapped sound - o wao I missed that smh
00:58:071 (58071|2,58352|2,58633|2,58915|2) - Bit of an anchor - That's spaced 3/4 apart I don't think it's a problem.
01:03:321 - Unmapped sound - Not mapping hihats in this section.
01:52:165 (112165|1) - Move to 3 - Eh ok
01:57:321 (117321|1) - Ghost note - There is a really really really small sound.

Lv. 5

00:21:415 (21415|1) - Make this a double - I don't hear anything to warrant a double.
01:41:290 (101290|3) - Ghost note? - Also a really really really really small sound but I may or may not remove it since there is also a bunch of really really really small sound before it as well.
01:57:321 (117321|2) - ^ - mentioned in Lv. 3

Lv. 6

00:58:915 (58915|0,59102|0,59290|0,59477|0) - Bit of an anchor - Anchor is intentional.
01:32:571 (92571|2,92571|3,92665|1,92665|0) - Make this a triple-double jack like 01:11:665 (71665|1,71665|3,71665|2,71758|2,71758|1) - - I'd rather not since the main focus of this section isn't jacks.
01:41:290 (101290|3) - Ghost note - Mentioned in Lv. 5

Lv. 8

00:26:008 (26008|2,26008|3,26102|2,26102|1,26196|0,26196|1,26290|2,26290|3,26383|0,26383|1,26477|2,26477|1,26571|3,26571|2) - Please God no. These patterns are so awkward and uncomfortable to play, especially when they are back and forths like this. I would highly recommend that you repattern this. - This pattern is rather easy compared to the rest of the map. It could likely be the SVs that are tripping you up than the jacks themselves.
00:49:352 (49352|0,49352|1,49446|1,49446|0,49540|0,49540|1,49540|2,49633|3,49633|2,49727|2,49727|1,49821|1,49821|0) - Repattern this as well. The triple jack leading into a rolling mini jack is extremely uncomfortable. - The triple jack makes this section easier to hit as it is positioned on the hand opposite to the jacks right before it.
00:56:102 (56102|3) - Move to 2 - I'd rather keep the 3-note long jack at col 4 as it puts emphasis on the violins at 00:55:915 - . Also,
moving the note to 2 will make this section too left hand heavy.
01:41:290 (101290|3) - Ghost note - Also mentioned in Lv. 5

People who play at this skill range will not be very happy when they play this map. Triple jacks in a 4.5* map just isn't really excusable imo. Try and tone down on them a little or this map will get a lot of hate. Not hating, just being realistic. - The SR of this difficulty is very misleading as the intended audience of this map should be able to play most ranked 5* maps and some 6* maps. The whole concept of this difficulty is jack+SVs which tends to be underrated by the SR system.

Lv. 9

Not modding this one because I'm not good enough to play it xd - rip

Overall, I liked the map up to Lv. 6. After that, it kind of started to go downhill a little. Try and tone down the jacks, they're a little overdone. - Explained in Lv. 8.

Good luck on getting this ranked! - Big thanks for the mod.

Insp1r3 wrote:

Yes I am here for mod thank

1|2|3|4

Mentholzzz's Lv. 2

In the diff name, add a space between "Lv." and "2" so it says "Lv. 2" woops

00:52:071 (52071|3,52165|2) - Ctrl + J ok
01:32:852 (92852|0) - Move to 2 ok

Ok shroten the diff name to "Mentos' Lv. 2"

Good luck on getting this ranked!

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64,192,111040,1,2,1:0:0:0:
320,192,111133,1,8,1:0:0:0:
192,192,111415,1,8,1:0:0:0:
448,192,111415,1,4,1:0:0:0:
320,192,112165,1,8,3:0:0:0:
64,192,112915,1,8,1:0:0:0:
192,192,112915,1,2,1:0:0:0:
320,192,113665,1,8,3:0:0:0:
192,192,114415,1,8,1:0:0:0:
448,192,114415,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,114602,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,114790,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,114977,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,115165,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,115352,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,115540,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,115727,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,115915,1,8,1:0:0:0:
448,192,115915,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,116196,1,0,1:0:0:0:
64,192,116383,1,0,1:0:0:0:
448,192,116477,1,0,1:0:0:0:
320,192,116571,1,0,1:0:0:0:
192,192,116665,1,8,1:0:0:0:
320,192,116758,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,116852,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,116946,1,8,1:0:0:0:
192,192,117040,1,4,1:0:0:0:
320,192,117133,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,117227,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,117415,1,8,1:0:0:0:
192,192,117415,1,4,1:0:0:0:

Lenfried- wrote:

weee i cant even play lv 9 now - ouch

hitsounds

I had effects off btw so I'm not being fooled by hitsounds
normal finish is so loud it drowns every other sounds lmoa
00:51:321 - kick exists and therefore should have a normal C - I don't think there is a kick here (no low pitched percussion.) The synth and the reverse cymbal is really loud here tho.
00:58:165 - i believe there is a kick here and should be a normal C. Although it may not be that apparent i guess it could be applied for the sake of consistency within the section - Sounds like a synth and a really loud hihat to me tho
01:00:321 - ^ - i can only hear a hihat, piano note, and a synth note here
01:13:071 - i dont think a drum sound exists here remove C - Not exactly there but i did find a few wrong hitsounds around here
01:13:915 - to 01:14:665 - i believe the drums are waaay too weak if they exist to earn C usages (forgot to mention 00:25:915 - to 00:26:571 - too) - Removed kick hs at 01:13:915 - , but the kicks are clearly audible at 00:25:915 -
01:21:696 - add normal C for kick - There is no kick here.
01:24:696 - ^ though this one is a lot weaker lmao - Same as above
01:26:665 - cant tell if it's a kick or not if it is, add C normal - I don't think there's a kick.
01:36:321 - definitely not a kick, check what hitsound works with this. Maybe W normal? idk - Decided to just remove the hitsound here. It's a percussion that I wasn't applying hitsounds for.
01:38:711 - 01:39:102 - 01:39:165 - no kicks here lmao - Not 100% sure about the kick at 01:38:711 - (it might just be a part of the kick prior) but the others are clearly audible

b-b-b-but BMS had kicks there. BMS notecharters add additional keysounded notes to justtify their awfully difficult sections (( - i actually didn't couldn't reference the bms chart a lot cuz the bms chart for axion has a billion keysound files
Fully knowing that the top diff of axion BMS is a delay chart, yeeeeeah - I actually should've used the delay version *cough*

be back maybe monday for the actual mod then ill check for hs consistency between diffs even if you used an hs copier - the hitsounds actually differ a bit for the lower diffs

Lenfried- wrote:

tfw no 4k bricks - just think of the walls as really long bricks :^)

will do the general modding now - /o/

btw your normal clap is kinda weak, you might want to boost the vol - Increased volume by 2dB

lv1

00:39:415 - to 00:49:165 - Would suggest removing the 1/2ths for this section, the amount of finger independence required is not fitting for an Easy diff. This section is arguably as hard if not harder than the actual climactic section of the song. - Didn't remove the 1/2, but rearranged them so that they're on the opposite hand the LNs are on
00:49:540 (49540|1) - can easily go to 3 for balance - done
00:39:415 - to 00:49:165 - had Cs for notes that match with the hitsound diff but 00:51:415 - to 00:57:415 - doesnt. Why so? - Added clap at 00:57:415 - No clap added at 00:51:415 - since the section should not have claps (00:52:165 - hence the clap here was removed)
00:57:040 - lacks a drum whistle - Fixed
01:01:915 - did quite live up to the intensity that is expected judging from the continuous 1/2s used in the previous section. Consider: https://puu.sh/ALwvE/46d279125a.png You're going to want to apply this because a slight difficulty burst leading to a calm per-climactic section always works. - I have a feeling that kaito was trying to represent the piano with the SN there but eh.
01:22:165 (82165|3) - should have a C - I intentionally ignored the kick here to follow a c-x-w-x-x-c-w-... pattern since it's predictable and the kick at 01:22:165 - is just a part of a quick double kick pattern which isn't properly represented in this diff. Edited further sections to properly follow this
01:25:352 (85352|0) - ^ - ^
01:26:665 (86665|3) - remove C, else add C in the hitsound diff and apply accordingly to the other diffs - ^
01:26:852 (86852|1) - add C - ^
01:32:290 - lacks both Ws which are easily applicable. You can't say that this is wrong because the previous doubles have W applications. - oops
01:15:415 - add C because 01:27:415 - has C for the same sound or remove the latter, either case works - removed the latter clap
01:33:415 - if you did decide to add the C, add the W here cause uh section introduction percussion - did not add clap
01:45:415 - judging from the addition of C in this bar line, you might as well add C for the next bar lines ie. 01:46:915 - 01:48:415 - 01:49:915 - - While those bar lines do have the same clap hitsound in the hitsound diff, the ones at 01:46:915 - 01:48:415 - 01:49:915 - represent a sound different from 01:45:415 -.
01:56:102 (116102|2,116290|1,116477|0) - weird decision to not add Cs here - Decided not to add any clap there since the notes don't seem to be actually representing the kicks but the synth (considering that the same 1/2 appears before the kicks.) There is a clap at 01:55:915 to signify the start of the 1/4 kicks, and a rather loud drum. The clap at 01:56:665 - was removed
01:08:290 - minor balancing nitpick https://puu.sh/ALwOC/ee252c8b5f.png - Applied, but with the note at 01:08:852 - placed at 4 to keep the right side less empty
01:12:415 - shouldnt this be a double? All prior F usages in this section are double notes - Added a note at 3
01:45:415 - can be a double i guess. add 3 - ^

lv2

00:24:415 - that usage of 1/4ths is awful lmfao. Consider this https://puu.sh/ALxdw/c0e2ad2c73.png It's kinda dense so feel free to nerf the density but the flow should stay like that - Instead of changing the density, I just moved the notes around so that the notes are less separated
00:26:196 - while musically sensible, the way the isolated 1/4th note transitions to the 1/4 stream that starts in a 1/4 ends up being super weird to play. Consider: https://puu.sh/ALxky/69b7b005b7.png - psure that the note at 00:26:196 - can just be removed since it actually isn't technically accurate (the synths that seem to be represented by the SNs is actually present at all 1/4 from 00:25:915 - to 00:27:133 - )
00:25:915 - to 00:26:477 - if you did the hitsound thing at the ending of lv1, i guess these can also use some Cs with respect to the hitsound diff - didn't do the hitsound thing at the ending of lv 1
00:40:352 (40352|3,40540|1) - swap cols. The 123 motion can be very awk to pull off - swapped
00:46:352 (46352|0,46540|2) - swap col with the same idea - that makes the note at col 3 hard to hit. Gets kinda hard to read imo
00:47:852 (47852|2,48040|3) - ^ though not as apparent - rearranged
00:49:727 - to 00:50:665 - ew wtf. Inconsistent flow and w/e this section is just awful to play ok https://puu.sh/ALxOE/3bb2ea6cb3.png - Rearranged the notes differently. The screenshot looks harder to play for beginners due to all the SNs crossing over LNs
00:56:196 (56196|1) - C - applied
00:56:571 - add note and C maybe at 3 - also applied
01:01:352 (61352|3) - since this note exists, you should add a note in these following timestamps for a consistency in flow - Did not add for most of the notes below as they do not seem to clearly represent a sound.
01:00:602 - at 2 - there is no significant sound represented in this section
01:02:102 - ^ - the same as above. The surrounding kicks, one at 01:02:008 - and one at 01:02:196 - are ignored due to its proximity to more significant sounds that are represented in this sections
01:02:290 - at 3 - however, a note is added here for the snare
01:02:946 (62946|2) - if you applied ^, i suggest moving this up by 1/4 and change the HS to a drum W - the point above was only partially accepted
01:03:415 - disgustingly underrepresented note, add a note. pref at 4 - done
01:08:758 (68758|1,68852|3) - add C? - I only added a clap to the notes at the start of measures here since the notes represent the piano,
not the drums.
00:25:915 - vs 01:13:915 - weird how the latter similar sounding section is way easier that the first one. Consider buffing - Due to the note at 00:26:196 - being removed, I don't think there is a significant difference in difficulty between the two sections to warrant a buff.
01:16:352 (76352|2) - 01:17:665 (77665|1) - 01:19:352 (79352|2) - 01:20:196 (80196|3) - 01:20:665 (80665|1,80852|2) - these notes are better off having C than no hitsounds at all as they actually do follow the C layer to an extent. - I ignored them since the claps cannot be applied consistently to the notes here tho. I feel that the keysounds and the whistles are enough to provide proper feedback to the player.
01:27:415 - to 01:30:415 - same idea as ^ - See above
01:32:290 - wew wtf another highly underrepresented note. Follow the idea from lv1 - Made into a double

screenshot dump:
The idea behind these screenshot is the uphold the hitsound reliance of the diff. This way, the section can cover both Cs and Ws nicely without altering too much stuff in terms of gameplay
01:34:165 - https://puu.sh/ALya6/3d6c921274.png
01:35:665 - https://puu.sh/ALyb9/4e62ec4c89.png
01:37:165 - https://puu.sh/ALybK/60470c2fd7.png

- sort of applied. I rearranged the section to accommodate whistles as well as the keysounds

01:38:665 (98665|3,98758|2,98852|1,98946|0,99040|3,99133|1,99227|2,99321|3) - judging by how lv 5 and some other diff handled this, this should use some Cs. Apply the same for lv1 - I didn't put any claps here since it was hard to make the note at 01:38:665 - a double
01:57:040 (117040|1) - hs misapplication. every other diff uses W - oops

Lenfried- wrote:

fkhitsounds - fkhitsounds

hey the C is audible now hooray! - wooo

lv 3

00:44:102 (44102|2,44196|1) - ctrl h for emphasis on the W - eh ok
00:49:352 - not a huge fan of the 2121 trill when it can start on col 1 instead and just act as a minitrill so that is isnt that control heavy check this out: https://puu.sh/AQEZS/8b1d7243b1.png - was trying to avoid reverse shields but i guess OH trills are harder
00:53:102 - judging from a far earlier section with the cwcw stuff, this could have a note as you normally throw triple sweeps in parts where there's hitsound usage on 1/4 which is also the case for example: 00:54:977 (54977|1,55071|2,55165|3) - and 00:56:102 (56102|2,56196|0,56290|1) - 00:56:477 (56477|2,56571|1,56665|3) - etc - actually a missing hihat note
00:54:040 - i personally think that LN heads mixed with a significant drum layer like this should be treated as a double. Minor nitpick but eh - i didn't want to put extra emphasis on snares over kicks
00:58:915 - for emphasis on the double in 00:59:290 - https://puu.sh/AQF9M/2e5a47e49d.png - did smth similar but with the snare double with one note on each hand and the kick double on a single hand
00:59:852 (59852|2,59946|1) - ctrl h cause the minitrill there is kinda messy unless PR or w/e not very keen with those - rearranged to PR (probably... using earphones instead of my usual headphones rn tho)
01:01:540 (61540|1,61727|0,62008|0) - this is blargh. The release at 1/1 to the note at another column at 1/4 is quite hard to acc would prefer something like: https://puu.sh/AQFes/adaa8c3813.png - rearranged
01:22:071 (82071|0) - minor nitpick to move this to 2 balancing and w/e idk - moved
01:34:821 - vs 01:36:321 - same sounds different ways of being tackled. Choose one - actually just me forgetting to apply layering changes to this diff while fixing the hitsound diff

clean diff not bad - yey

5

00:27:415 (27415|1,27508|0) - wooh that's some disconnected pattern for a section this early, swap col. Be mindful of the hitsounds. - rearranged some notes in the intro to make the disconnection more predictable
00:55:915 (55915|3,56008|3,56665|0,56758|0) - strongly advise avoiding these minijacks as they are not well introduced in the context of continuous 1/4 streaming. The only next instance of minijacks is in the rest section prior to the climax - removed the minijacks
00:56:290 (56290|2,57040|2) - with ^ in mind, these two notes with Ws can be doubles as part of the overall layering when no LNs are present. dont forget to add the other W to 00:57:040 - if you did add doubles - decided not to have doubles for the snares here since it might make it hard to transition to the next section


wow - wew

Lenfried- wrote:

lv6

01:09:133 (69133|2,69290|3) - minor nitpick to swap col. Looks cleaner, plays slightly better (subjective) with the index jack - rearranged it in a different way cuz pr
01:23:383 (83383|3) - would prefer this minijack to go to col 2 so that it doesnt branch off a minitrill when col 2 is much easier to handle - done
01:30:602 - if lv 5 has a note here why doesnt lv 6 to 9 have one here? - the hihats are not represented in this diff

lv8

00:25:915 - would strongly suggest using a much easier pattern for this set of jacks so that the gluts would get introduced in a later, more fitting, section with respect to difficulty curving - simplified jacks
00:47:571 (47571|0,47571|3) - c in 1/4 snap and therefore must minijack. consider: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11330440 - did smth similar but with the two jacks on different columns

lv 8 to be continued - the layering explanation u asked for in discord is in the box below

lv. 8 layering

00:51:415 - ~ 01:03:040 -

Base single note every 1/4 for the synths
+1 per kick (represented with normal clap)
+2 per snare (represented with normal whistle)
+1 per brass/strings hit
Max chord size 3

01:03:415 - ~ 01:13:915 -

Base double for every piano
+1 per crash (represented with normal finish)
+1 per kick (represented with normal clap)
+1 per loud hit thing (represented with drum clap)

Exception
01:08:665 - ~ 01:08:946 - piano is represented with a single note instead of double here

Lenfried- wrote:

more lv 8

00:52:633 (52633|1,52633|2,52821|1,52821|0) - if these are doubles because of the brass, 00:52:633 (52633|1) - is actually on the 1/3 snap and 00:52:821 (52821|1) - on the 1/6th. I'll take simplification as an excuse but just had to put this to the table - they're clearly on 1/4 tho
00:56:008 (56008|3,56008|2) - dont hear anything stringy / brassy here as the sustained sound actually starts at 00:55:915 - There is a break in the strings between 00:55:915 - and 00:56:008 -
00:56:758 (56758|0,56758|1,56946|3,56946|2) - backed by some piano-ish sound (dk what instrument it is) than strings. Single? - Same case as above.
00:57:321 - W triple? - well fk i had to rearrange the next few seconds to fix this
00:59:946 (59946|0,60040|1) - swap col if no PR juat to add some ease - no longer applicable due to the previous notes being rearranged
01:13:540 (73540|3) - stray W - that's a drum whistle tho?
01:13:915 - nitpick. Should be jack oriented like 00:25:915 - done
01:16:071 (76071|0,76165|0,76258|2,76352|2,76446|3,76540|3) - considering the nature of these jacks for the cc - c - w, 01:17:852 - should have something like https://puu.sh/ATqqF/fa98db6df3.png - done but with the second jack on col 2 instead of col 3
01:19:540 (79540|2) - move to 4 with the same idea as ^ - i ended up moving a lot of notes around
01:20:852 (80852|3,80946|0) - swap col with the same idea as ^ - ^

01:27:415 - this section broke away from the jack usage from the last. Not a big deal but the jacks with regards to Ws are messy
does not jack:
01:27:790 (87790|0) - equivalent jack does not jack in the previous main melody section
W -> jack:
01:28:540 (88540|1,88633|1) -
01:29:290 (89290|1,89383|1) -
jack -> W:
01:29:946 (89946|2,90040|2) -
Sane case for non consecutive Cs:
C -> jack:
01:28:352 (88352|3,88446|3) -
01:28:915 (88915|2,89008|2) -
no jack:
01:29:196 (89196|0) -
01:29:852 (89852|0) -
might need some cleaning up for this section - the section should be a lot more organized now

01:35:665 - and 01:37:165 - odd choice not going for something jacky - didn't put jacks on kicks here tho
01:52:258 - idk this sounds just about the same as 01:53:758 - should have the note?. If you apply the note, add to lv 6 as well - there's no hihat at 01:53:758 -
01:54:415 - lv 6 has a double and this doesnt lmfao - added a note
01:55:915 - another one of those sounds that are interpreted as jacks in the into but is now a bland jumptrill - i didn't want anything straining in this section. A split trill should be difficult enough for a calm finale like this. Also, i didn't put jacks on every kick in the diff.

lv 9

00:25:915 - make this similar to lv 8 if not, LN-y or inverse like cause the current pattern strays too far away from the theme of the chart - made the jacks a lot simpler
00:40:915 - (and ever succeeding 4/1 until 00:48:415 - ) minor idea, with respect to 00:39:415 (39415|1,39508|1) - , 00:40:915 (40915|2,41008|1) - this must jack instead. I get the idea and whatnot but it's something worth raising - i put a jack at 00:39:415 - for the crash tho
00:46:540 - 3434 into a jack is blergh 00:46:727 (46727|2) - move to 2 - fixed
00:48:227 (48227|2) - to same idea as ^ additionally, 00:48:321 (48321|3,48415|3) - can go to 3 if you moved the previous note to 1 - that makes the ln transition harder here than the others in this section
01:13:540 (73540|3) - stray W (stray C for lv 5 check that out too) - that's a drum whistle :\ fixed the lv 5 clap tho
01:35:665 - this sounds a lot like 01:37:165 - so the jacking in the latter section is quite inconsistent. Consider: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11343490 - redid a lot of the stuff in this section cuz i realized that the LNs weren't following PR

Lenfried- wrote:

for some reason i thought the "stray Ws" are legit not in the hitsound diff but w/e - can't rmb well but i might have added it after one of ur mods or smth

last skimming:

lv1

01:22:165 (82165|3) - should have a C - I intentionally ignored the kick here to follow a c-x-w-x-x-c-w-... pattern since it's predictable and the kick at 01:22:165 - is just a part of a quick double kick pattern which isn't properly represented in this diff. Edited further sections to properly follow this
with that argument, 01:25:165 (85165|2,86665|3) - should not have Cs as they stem from the double kicks - removed appropriate claps

lv2

00:49:727 - to 00:50:665 - ew wtf. Inconsistent flow and w/e this section is just awful to play ok https://puu.sh/ALxOE/3bb2ea6cb3.png - Rearranged the notes differently. The screenshot looks harder to play for beginners due to all the SNs crossing over LNs

considerable improvement but making the notes stick with the hitsounds results in a flow that's very weird to feel. 4 consecutive 1/4s -> 3 consecutive 1/4ths on blue tick is ends up being very trippy would further simplify the section to something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11408616 - idk, i just find it rly awkward to suddenly ignore so many kicks in a section that properly follows kicks. So i just made the LNs SNs to reduce the clutter just for this part

lv 3

01:34:821 - vs 01:36:321 - same sounds different ways of being tackled. Choose one - actually just me forgetting to apply layering changes to this diff while fixing the hitsound diff
should have been more direct about this one, 01:36:321 - doesnt have a note and 01:34:821 - 01:37:821 - these do, consider adding the note - - none of the sounds i mapped in this section (strings/hihat/kick/snare) is present at 01:36:321 -. (fk u had to use a reddish color. italicized my reply so that u can tell it apart easily)

qqqant wrote:

i love playing the hitsound diff its my favorite diff

Garalulu wrote:

01:18:227 - 여기서 f#6으로 바뀌니 맵셋 전체적으로 체크해보세요 - 페이드인 때문에 잘 안들리지만 현악기 소리는 01:18:133 -에서 시작합니다. ref#1 ref#2
01:30:227 - same - ^ ref#1 ref#2

Garalulu wrote:

01:27:415 (87415|1) - There is an nonexistent hitsound file on Lv.2 (vo1.wav), should be fixed to F! - Fixed✅

and additional hitsound mod

[lv1]

1. 00:24:790 (24790|1) - Normal Clap인데 샘플셋만 Normal로 되어있습니다 - 인트로에 있는 노트들이 드럼을 따르지 안아서 의도적으로 4/1선에만 드럼 힛사운드를 적용했습니다
   00:25:352 (25352|1) - W - ^
   00:52:165 (52165|2) - 00:52:915 (52915|1) - 00:54:415 (54415|0) - 00:55:165 (55165|2) - 00:55:915 (55915|1) - 00:56:665 (56665|1) - 01:08:852 (68852|3) - 01:56:665 (116665|1) - C - 이 중에 많은 구간들은 노트들이 킥 소리를 일관적으로 노트들과 일치하지 안으므로 일부로 Clap힛사운드를 적용하지 안았습니다
2. 01:03:415 (63415|2) - C 추가해야 합니다 - 추가했습니다

[lv2]

1. 01:21:415 (81415|3) - 계속 같은 이슈, C 없읍니다 - 원래는 위와 같이 일부로 C를 무시했지만 01:21:415 - ~ 01:27:415 - 에 lv1과 동일한 힛사운드를 적용하면서 여기와 밑에 표시된 노트 일부에 C가 추가되었습니다
   01:22:352 (82352|3) - 01:22:915 (82915|3) - 01:23:852 (83852|1) - 01:24:415 (84415|3) - 01:25:352 (85352|1) - 01:25:915 (85915|1) - 01:26:852 (86852|1) - 01:08:852 (68852|3) - 01:10:540 (70540|0) - C - ^ 적용이 안된 부분은 lv1과 동일한 이유입니다
2. 00:51:415 (51415|0) - W가 아니라 C가 필요, 두 노트에 각각 넣어주세요. (한 노트에 두개 넣을 시 빈 노트 힛사 샘플셋을 Auto로 변경) - W->C
3. 01:03:415 (63415|2) - same with lv1 - Fixed

전체적으로 힛사가 일관성이 맞지 않는 부분들이 많은데, 의도일 수 있지만 저는 조금 의문이 드는 내용이 많네요! 다시 한 번 꼼꼼히 살펴볼 필요가 있습니다. - 하하하하하하.......

plz check them all, will back~ - 👍

Garalulu wrote:

[General]

1. 01:50:290 - 모든 난이도에 공통으로 볼륨 10% 초록선이 들어있는데 01:45:508 - 에서 이미 동일한 내용의 초록선이 존재하므로 지워도 무방합니다. - Lv.8 빼고 전부 다 지웠습니다
2. 00:24:415 - 볼륨 35% 초록선이 00:13:915 - 와 정확히 동일하므로 지워도 무방합니다. (Lv.5 ~) - 5~6에서 지웠습니다

[Lv.2]

1. 01:20:196 (80196|3) - 앞 파트 01:17:196 - 와 달리 멜로디가 존재하지 않으므로, 이 노트를 그대로 둔다면 멜로디가 아닌 이 파트에서 유일하게 1/4 드럼을 표현한 것이 되어버립니다. (01:17:571 - 에서는 표현되지 않음) 이는 Clap 힛사 일관성과도 연결될 수 있으니 삭제하는 걸 추천합니다. - 삭제했습니다
2. 01:08:758 - 동일한 구조인 Lv.3과 달리 C가 없네요! 01:08:852 - 도 동일 - Lv. 3에서 힛사를 지웠습니다

[Lv.3]

1. 00:27:696 (27696|2) - C 사운드가 없으니 00:30:696 - 나 00:33:696 - 처럼 공간을 비워두세요. - 수정했습니다
2. 00:45:133 (45133|1) - 이와 비슷한 내용인데, 멜로디를 표현한다면 00:45:321 - 나 00:46:633 - 같은 곳에도 노트가 필요하기 때문에 C 사운드가 없는 이상 비워두는게 좋겠네요. - 지웠습니다
3. 01:36:227 - 노트 두개 겹쳐있습니다! - ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[Lv.5]

1. 00:49:915 - 00:51:415 - 드럼 구조가 달라지는 부분이니 단순히 이전 파트와 동일하게 롱놋 하나 + 단놋 스트림으로 가기보단 롱놋을 지우고 드럼을 좀 더 강조하는게 어울리다고 생각해요. 01:01:915 - 01:03:415 - 도 생각해보세요! - ✅
2. 01:09:415 - 01:13:915 - Lv.6과 난이도 갭이 큽니다. Lv.6에서는 01:03:415 - 01:09:415 - 에서 추가된 멜로디를 표현해 스트림을 넣었으니 이 난이도에서도 동일하게 1/4에 노트를 넣어 고조된 느낌을 표현해주세요. - 1/4 스트림을 넣었습니다

[Lv.6]

1. 00:23:946 - 주변과 달리 명확한 사운드가 아니니 제 생각엔 필요 없는 노트네요, 이후 난이도에서도 동일한 이슈가 있으니 체크해보세요. - Lv.6~9 전부 수정했습니다
2. 00:49:915 - 00:51:415 - Lv.5와 동일한 이슈 - ✅
3. 01:21:415 - 01:27:415 - 패턴이 00:27:415 - 에 비해서 가볍네요. 모든 1/4 마다 노트가 있지 않고 드럼 사운드에 트리플도 없습니다. 1/4 스트림을 넣지 않은건 멜로디 강조라서 괜찮지만 전반적인 노트량이 이전 파트에 비해서 적으니 이 점 고려해서 노트를 추가해주세요! - 스네어에 노트를 하나 더 추가했습니다
   01:33:415 - 01:39:415 - 여기도 몇 군데 추가 가능합니다 - 노트를 추가하기 약간 애매하고 음악이 아무래도 바로 전에 비해 잔잔함으로서 이정도 난이도가 괜찮다고 생각합니다.
4. 01:38:665 - 01:39:415 - Lv.5와 난이도 갭이 큽니다. Lv.6 ~ Lv.9까지 이 파트의 구조가 똑같네요. Lv.8과 Lv.9는 각각 단놋 / 롱놋 구조로 마지막 난이도를 구성하고 있다고 볼 수 있지만 이 난이도는 상위 난이도들과 격차가 있어야 한다고 생각해요. 1/6과 1/8 트릴에서 노트량을 조절하면 좋겠습니다. - 약간 너프했습니다

[Lv.8]

1. 00:49:540 (49540|2) - col3의 경우 3연타(00:49:540 (49540|2,49633|2,49727|2) - )가 되버리니 col4로 이동해서 00:49:540 - 00:51:415 - 파트에서 각각 2번씩만 겹치도록 연결시켜주면 이뻐보이네요. - 현재 패턴이 더 읽기 슆고 잭 난이도가 양손에 더 균일하게 분배됬다고 생각합니다 다만, 00:50:946 -의 코드잭은 바로 전의 스네어-킥 잭과 맞추어 그냥 잭으로 바꿨습니다.
2. 00:58:915 - 01:00:415 - 멜로디 더블 잭이 모두 오른손에만 위치해 있네요. 이 파트를 Ctrl+H 해서 각각 손마다 2번씩 잭을 분포시키는 건 어떨까요? - 코드잭으로 표현한 관악기 소리의 음이 높아서 오른손에 놓게 되었지만, 코드잭들이 읽기 슆게 배치되어있고 드럼 잭 대부분이 왼손에 있어서 문제가 없다고 생각합니다.

[Lv.9]

1. 01:00:040 - 01:00:133 - 이후 파트와 연결을 위해 롱놋을 넣었지만 이 핵심 멜로디 2연타는 빠지면 섭하니 01:00:040 - 에 단놋 하나 추가해서 포인트를 짚어주세요. 예시 - 노트를 하나 추가했지만 약간 다르게 배치했습니다.
2. 01:45:040 (105040|3) - 3/4 스냅에 맞춰서 끝나는 소리가 아니니깐 롱놋 끝을 01:45:321 - 에 두지 말고 01:45:290 (105290|0) - 와 맞추어 두는게 처리, 모양 면에서 깔끔해 보입니다. - 1/4 -> 1/3 스냅으로 바꿨습니다

FAMoss wrote:

hi, can you change the special cymbal in 01:30:790 - 01:31:165 - 01:31:446 - 01:31:727 - 01:32:008 - 01:32:290 - with a low sound hihat, very spammed sounds and makes my ears hurt lol. I suggest to use this sample https://puu.sh/BcZln/7329e4cc0c.wav and increase to 70% the volume to get effect from the sample. - I have to agree that the cymbal is a bit more than just a bit loud. Didn't use the hihat you linked but I grabbed a different crash sample that doesn't have all that static noise, and edited in a separate sample for the cymbal spam so that the cymbal sounds don't overlap. Hopefully I didn't mess up anything while doing this.

Anyway i love this map, good luck! - thanks for the random mod

Garalulu wrote:

01:53:671 - this green line should be placed at 01:53:665 - tho (lv.8) - how tf did a line go 10ms off

01:37:165 - 01:37:540 - 01:37:915 - you should delete background hitsound (lv.3) - ah fk that didn't get deleted

normal-hitnormal.wav is too short (72.83ms), here is the edit ver with blank sound - done

Kawawa wrote:

Is this an intention? spread name is indeed inconsistent. see the space of "LV.2 difficulty" https://puu.sh/Be3qH/8698cb68dc.png
It looks like same thing with EZ LV. 1 // NM LV.2 // HD LV. 3 // MX LV. 4
according to your post It seems a mistake :: https://puu.sh/Be3oN/0533493d3c.png

I actually don't see any intention and reasonable reason, so should be fixed.
Anyway nice map. good luck for ranked!

Arzenvald wrote:

brilliant

maybe want to add old username to tag too

WOO V1 THREAD

MadBricktree wrote:

It is completely unintentional and should be fixed if it is an issue.
However, I question whether the missing space in a guest diff is an issue at all considering that...
1. it is hardly noticeable, to the point that not a single person noticed the past year and...
2. it hardly has a role in indicating the difficulty since that is what the number at the end of the difficulty name does.

I'll contact a QAT to confirm if this really is an issue that undermines the quality or the rankability of this set.

Kawawa wrote:

MadBricktree wrote:

It is completely unintentional and should be fixed if it is an issue.
However, I question whether the missing space in a guest diff is an issue at all considering that...
1. it is hardly noticeable, to the point that not a single person noticed the past year and...
2. it hardly has a role in indicating the difficulty since that is what the number at the end of the difficulty name does.

I'll contact a QAT to confirm if this really is an issue that undermines the quality or the rankability of this set.

not for the chart issue but a fundamental problem. so I assuming It's entirely a mistake, so was right.
If all the guest difficulties are no space at all, It can work as related point but this is not a case for it. so It's a good idea to fixing it because still 1st day. That's all. but I'm not the one who judge it finally, so I just leave the opinion here. anyway hope everything is well for the map!

Lude wrote:

Hello, nice LN map. Just few concerns about Lv. 8, density issues

1. 00:55:821 (55821|1,55915|1,55915|3,55915|2,56008|3,56008|2,56102|3) - Using these kind of structure is not coherent with the song, specially the 4th column, you barely gave triple jacks throughout the map. I'd recommend to replace these notes. 00:49:540 (49540|2) - Same goes with this, you could simplify the pattern by moving it to col 4 - The part at 00:55:915 (55915|3,55915|2,56008|3,56008|2,56102|3) - is basically equivalent to the part at 00:56:665 (56665|1,56665|0,56758|0,56758|1,56852|1) - (it's there to put emphasis on the brass.) For 00:49:540 (49540|2,49633|2,49727|2) - this 3 note long jack, please refer to my reply to one of lulu's mods (which basically sums up to that the current pattern is rather easy due to its readability and hand balance + it looks prettier imo)
2. 01:09:040 - You could just simplify these snaps by either only following melody or drums - The whole section is based on piano and drums. I see no reason to simplify here considering that it the current pattern isn't hard at all since the different snaps are mostly separated.
3. 01:10:165 - Clap 3, yet these two bass (01:10:540 (70540|0,70540|3,70540|2,70633|3,70633|1,70633|2) - ) has triple chords. 3-3-2-3 is quite heavy compared to the progression of the song. In my opinion, 01:10:633 (70633|2,70633|3,70633|1) - these could be doubled, 01:10:821 - triple here and double 01:10:915 - here to make it 3-2-2-3. Follows the drum more properly, and yet gives the staccato rhythm for players. - That would be inconsistent considering my layering approach which is explained in one of my previous posts (basically there are 4 different instruments that are being represented in this section.) Also, the difficulty jump is not all that high here considering that there are plenty of sections previous to this that is quite close in density. Also, IMO the music in this section is intense enough to warrant a slight increase in difficulty.
4. 01:13:258 (73258|0,73258|2,73258|3,73352|2,73352|1) - Same goes here, chords does not follow the patterning logic (01:13:540 (73540|2,73540|3,73633|2,73633|1,73633|3) - bass double and snare triple). - Refer to the reply above.
5. 01:15:040 - Popped up right now, add a note at 4? - I think it's fine without an extra note there since that'll mean that a line in a transitional section has bigger chord size and complexity than the start of 01:15:415 - a new section

I'll see if I can find out more. Lv. 9 is just excellent. Good luck! - Thank you for the mod. I will be waiting for your next post.

Rivals_7 wrote:

heyo. a couple of light concern on hitsounding that could be improved. - ic

[All]

00:53:665 - this bit seems to be missing a C. if i saw the overall structure that similar to this such as - 00:52:071 - 00:56:571 - 00:55:071 - then its surely a bit off - from what i can hear it's not a kick but a really loud hihat/some-other-percussion. Paired with the background synths it kinda does sound like a kick but not quite (compare with all the 1/4 snaps nearby if that helps.)

01:41:290 - (except mentholz) this sounds like a ghost. idk. or maybe if there is some sound, its pretty faint - just a very faint piano.

[Kaito]

00:24:790 (24790|1,25352|1,25540|3) - missing W - I deliberately did not put any hitsounds there. It was explained in my reply to one of lulu's mods which basically sums up to that the notes don't properly follow the drums.
00:52:165 (52165|2) - 00:52:915 (52915|1) - 00:54:415 (54415|3) - 00:55:165 (55165|2,55915|1) - 00:56:665 (56665|2) - missing C - The C samples are intentionally ignored in this section for reasons similar to the point above.

[mentholz]

00:26:383 (26383|0,26477|1,26571|2) - missing C? feels like its intended so maybe not - Those notes do not represent the drums.
00:50:008 (50008|2) - C i think - i guess yea

[5]

00:35:196 (35196|3,35290|2) - it seems that you misplaced the C because it was suppose to be in a swapped positions like other diffs did - actually an error

01:15:415 -> 01:39:415 - thorughout Lv 2 to 6. there is a couple mount of missing C throughout them. either it is intentional or not, it looks just odd since most of the notes are there for percussion yet no percussion HS for the feedback - all of the "missing C/W/anyhitsoundsample" in this section deliberately "missing" to make way for the keysounds.

These are just a couple of points of missing hitsound. seemingly unintended, but since the pattern are mostly following percussion, just like the two highest diff did (implying the hitsound reference were referred from there), there should be some sort of more consistency in-between. - save for 2 genuine errors that you pointed out, those "seemingly unintended" "missing hitsound"s are all (or at least should be) intentional. There is no need for cross-difficulty consistency for anything if the difficulties follow different formulas.
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tfw no flashy kiai stuff - i don't like kiais
else is cool and good - thanks for the mod

Wonki wrote:

안녕하세요 몇가지 문제를 발견해서 적어봅니다

HP관해선데요 최소한의양심이있다면 HP를낮춰주세요 롱놋곡에 HP9는 양심없는행동이라고생각합니다 - 롱놋이 많기는 하지만 롱놋 부분들이 별로 길지 않아서 아예 롱놋을 못읽는게 아니면 HP문제는 없을거라고 생각합니다.

Lv. 9

00:26:008 (26008|3,26008|2,26102|3,26102|2) - 드럼이랑 신스음을 잭으로하셨는데 신스음을 12 로옮기고 00:26:196 (26196|0,26196|1) - 여기에있는 드럼음을 34로 옮겨서 00:26:290 (26290|2,26290|3) - 이노트와 잭으로 만드는게 이치에 맞다고 생각합니다 - 드럼과 신스음은 00:25:915 - ~ 00:26:571 - 전 구간 다 있는데요.

00:39:415 - 이쪽파트의 잭에 관한건데요 00:39:508 (39508|1,39696|3,40071|1) - 저는 무슨음에 잭을 넣었는지 도무지 이해가안갑니다. 잭을 넣을거면 00:39:790 (39790|1,39883|0) - 이런 서브음에 잭을 넣으셔야지 반대로넣으신거같아요 - 무슨 음을 따라 잭을 넣은게 아니라 매 1/1에 잭을 넣은건데요. 모들 드럼마다 잭을 만들면 잭 난이도가 너무 높아집니다.

00:40:446 (40446|0,40540|0) - 마찬가지입니다 객관적으로 봤을때도 (00:40:352 - 00:40:446 - ) 여기쪽 서브음이나 (00:40:540 - 00:40:633 - ) 여기쪽 서브음에 잭을넣어야 맞다고생각되는데 지금 보시면 정반대로 잭을 넣으신거같네요. - ^

뒷부분에 나오는잭도 수정하셔야할거같습니다

00:51:040 (51040|1,51040|0) - 00:51:227 - 여기까지 롱놋으로하셔도 괜찮을거같네요 - 그러면 전환이 별로 안예쁘게 되는데요

00:51:696 (51696|1,51790|2,51883|3,51977|2,52071|1,52165|3,52258|2,52352|3,52446|1,52540|2,52633|3,52727|1,52821|2,52915|3,53008|1,53102|3,53196|2,53290|1,53383|3,53477|2,53571|1,53665|3,53665|2) - 물론 이런 짜잘한음에맞춰서 롱놋으로 하는거도 괜찮다고 생각하지만 제생각에는 00:51:415 (51415|2,51696|1,51977|0) - 이렇게 메인음을 살리셨는데 00:52:165 - 이쪽부터나오는 메인음에는 짜잘한 부분에 롱놋을 넣기위해서 신경을쓰지않으셨더라구요. 메인음을 살리는게 곡표현에 더좋다고 생각합니다. 그리고 애초에 일관성도 맞지않네요. 00:55:915 (55915|1,56665|2) - 메인음을 표현하기위해 넣으신걸로 보이는데 완벽하게 메인음을 표현하는게 좋다고생각합니다. - 이 난이도에는 관악기음보다 현악기음에 더 큰 강조를 줬습니다.

00:56:758 (56758|3) - 무슨 롱놋인가요? 어떤음인지 알수가없습니다 - 현악기음입니다.

01:08:008 - 여기에도 잭표현이 되야한다고 생각합니다 일관성문제군요 - 이 부분의 피아노가 대체적으로 4/1마다 2연타가 없어서 넘어갔네요.

01:21:415 - ~01:24:415 - 이파트에도 문제점을 발견할수있는데요 01:21:977 - 01:22:821 - 이쪽부분에는 노트가없고 01:23:477 (83477|2) - 이쪽에는 노트가있네요 일관성문제라고생각합니다. - 01:23:477 - 에 노트가 하나 잘못들어간거 같네요.

01:30:508 (90508|0) - 여기에 노트하나를쓰셨다면 01:30:696 (90696|0,90696|1) - 이부분에도 노트하나를써야한다고생각합니다 - 원래 둘다 두개를 넣어야 하지만 01:30:508 - 여기에 더블이 있으면 치기 불편하게 되어서 노트를 하나 지운것입니다.

도움이됬으면 좋겠네요 - 모드 감사합니다.

Wonki wrote:

리퀄되기전에 빨리얘기해야겠네요

일단 HP에대해 답을해주셨는데 기본적으로 롱놋을잘치는분들은 HP가9이건 9.5이건 상관을안할겁니다. 근데 대체로 롱놋 랭크맵을 보신다면 플레이수가적고 깬사람이 많지않다는걸 알수있죠. 그걸 보면 롱놋을 잘치는 사람이 얼마없다는뜻입니다. 롱놋위주로치는 사람위주가아닌 랭크맵을 즐기는사람들을 위한 맵이되기위해서는 HP를 낮춰야한다고생각합니다. 솔직히 8.5까지만내려줘도 대다수의사람들이 좋아할거에요. - 이 난이도는 롱놋 초보자용이 아닙니다. 기본적인 풀롱놋 패턴을 읽을 수 있는 사람들을 위해 만들어진 난이도입니다.

00:49:352 (49352|1) - 이쪽에 노트가좀몰려있기도하고 하니 4로옮겨주시는게 좋을거같네요 - 롱놋과 숏놋이 다른 손들로 나누어 져있어서 오히려 현재 패턴이 더 치기 편하다고 생각합니다.

00:56:758 (56758|3) - 이쪽이 현악기음이라고 답해주셨는데 00:57:040 - 이쪽에서 현악기음이 짤립니다. 00:56:946 - 여기에 롱놋을 끊고 00:57:040 - 여기에 따로 발생하는음에 롱놋을 새로집어넣어야한다고 생각해요. - 00:57:040 - 여기에 있는 음은 현재 표현이 되고있는 현악기 음과 다릅니다.

01:07:915 (67915|1) - 대체적으로 4/1에 음이없다고 넘어가셨는데 그나마 저쪽음에 강조를하기위해 짧은롱놋이라도 하나필요하다고 생각합니다 - 노트수가 이미 충분히 강조를 하고 있고, 짧은 롱놋을 넣으면 오히려 치기 어색하고 01:07:915 - 의 강한 피아노와 타악기음의 표현을 약화시킨다고 생각합니다.

genkicho wrote:

*warning : this is not important >.>im bad at english* - that should be fine

sorry i just jumped in randomly here.. just want to share my opinion on LV.9
not saying the map is bad, it's actually good ok (subjective), but :
the inverse at 00:27:415 feels so heavy for beginning of song, also imo it doesnt fit the song well, first time i played it i was like : "wtf why inverse" -- what i feel about these inverse parts are that theyre forced for the sake of LN, it's kinda fun to play though, but as i said, imo doesnt rlly fit the song - it's not exactly heavy considering the entire difficulty. The first LN wall that you spoke of has a very simple structure (try converting the LNs to SNs if that helps you visualize it) and is relatively easy to read for a LN wall. LN walls are basically what the difficulty's concept revolves around so it'd be strange to remove any LN wall just because "they felt heavy."

but i dont have any good advice either... so... yea just saying what i feel about the map >.>

not mod for inverse but whatever

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imo 00:27:415 feels so uncomfortable and (randomly placed?) or maybe you were trying to follow the pitch but it feels uncomfortable. might want to try these
Phase 1 - Base >Modified
Phase 2 - Base > Modified
Phase 3 - Base > Modified
After Phase 3 - There u go - read previous reply

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01:15:415 Chorus : idk these patterns feels so uncomfortable (yeah im bad at thhese 2 hand notes in inverse) but it's weird that the previous inverse are FAR easier.. well this might be just high level stuff but might want to reconsider this nvm my hands just tired - rip. Inverse can be extremely stamina draining to those not accustomed to it.

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01:26:946 imo this just looks weird. It's like : theres no transition between phase. i mean, it re-entering the chorus, which use inverse pattern but the inverse is used even before the chorus starts, so it looks like theres no transition there, or at least it looks like the transition starts at wrong time.
idk maybe something like this or like this | more like transition pattern - That shield in col 4 will likely make the transition even weirder. The transition in question is placed with PR and to warn the player of another LN wall.
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maybe thats all, but well i cant mod those inverse part because thats how you want to map it >.> - well it's the whole concept of the difficulty. The point of Lv. 9 is to fill a niche need for inverse patterns (which basically means that the intended audience is very small.)

smh 4 edits srry i dont want to sound rude need to edit many times - rip. language barrier is a real issue

Wonki wrote:

01:07:915 (67915|1) - 도대체 여기가 뭐가강조됬다는지 전혀 이해가가지않습니다 설명해주세요 듣기에는 01:09:790 - 01:10:165 - 이쪽부분보다 훨씬더 명확하게 소리가 들립니다 - 01:07:915 - 에있는 드럼과 피아노요..?



00:53:758 (53758|0,54040|0) - 이렇게 끊었듯이 00:56:758 (56758|3) - 여기도 끊어줘야된다 이말이에요 일관성에 전혀 맞지 않습니다 분명히 음이 2개로 나뉘어져있습니다 - 현악기음 노트는 00:53:665 (53665|2,54040|1,54415|0) - 여기에 있는데요???


그리고 듣다보니 오프셋이 잘못된거같아서 적어봅니다

1938로 바꾸셔야할거같네요 00:01:938 - 여기부터 드럼시작입니다 - 1938으로 하면 너무 늩다고 생각하지만 한번 다른 사람들도 물어보겠습니다.

Niks wrote:

어쩌다가 보게됐는데 오프셋이 1938까진 아닌것같고 1910이 정확한거같습니다 - ✅

Wonki wrote:

오프셋은 다시보니 맞는거같네요 마지막으로 몇가지 추천해드리고싶은게있어서 짚어봅니다 - 👌

01:50:665 (110665|1,110665|0,110758|2,110758|3,110852|0,110852|1) - 12 - 34 - 21 보단 01:50:665 - 이쪽피니쉬사운드에 맞춰서 12 - 12 -34 가 더 적합하다고생각해요



이런식으로 - 이 부분은 곡이 잔잔함으로서 일부러 치기 슆게 잭을 피했습니다. 그러나 여기에 임팩트가 부족하긴 한거 같아서 [14][23][14]트릴로 바꿨습니다.

01:57:040 - 이쪽부터 나오는 피아노 3음 있죠? 그걸 강조하면 더좋을거같네요 - 노트는 추가하지 안았지만 스트림의 방향을 바꿨습니다.



화이팅 - 모드 감사합니다.

MadBricktree wrote:

Joe Castle wrote:

i would strongly suggest that the source should be changed to BMS and move cytus to the tags, since the song's first appearance was in the BMS contest "Wire Puller 2" in 2011, then in 2012 was featured in cytus with "Chapter VIII (8): Another Me".

Heres some useful link:
1. http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cgi?action=List_def&event=67
2. http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cgi?action=More_def&num=39&event=67