You can thank Orkel for putting a link to this in #modreqs. Which sometimes people actually do pay attention to. Only sometimes, though.

Note that my modding isn't terribly extensive. I don't spend much time in the editor. Majority of this is stuff I noticed while playing, since that's what really matters. If you require super details or nazi-modding, find someone else.

Overall
Let's get this straight: the video rules. That needs to be said. It lags my computer a little bit... not that the quality really needs lowered, though. I'm starting to think my computer is finally deteriorating after all these years.

Interesting stylistic choice on Easy and Normal with the map being basically a giant +. Not sure how intentional that is. Some might find it off-putting, though. You may want to consider adding some slopes/curves here and there. This is really up to you, though.

Easy

00:33:735 (1) - remove new combo.
00:36:135 (1) - remove new combo.
01:08:935 (1) - remove new combo.

Normal

Those circles are pretty small for a normal difficulty. I'd raise them a couple notches.

It's apparent here that you're not using distance snap. It's a good idea to use it most of the time, especially on lower difficulties that will be played by players who aren't yet fantastic at sight-reading.
00:11:335 (1,2,3) - 3 is farther from 2 than 2 is from 1. But if you use distance snap, they will be spaced evenly, just like on the timeline.

00:47:335 (3) - This slightly-curved slider looks really out of place with everything else being straight lines.

00:56:135 (3,1) - the jump here is a bit wide for normal difficulty.

Meon's Hard

01:19:937 (8) - looks a little weird. maybe move it down to align horizontally with 7?

Orkel's Insane

The hitsounds seem to be placed kind of randomly. They're so disorganized that it actually made the map a little harder to play.

01:14:941 (5,6,7) - This threw me off while playing. It's probably best to just make the spacing here like in the triplets after it. If you insist on keeping it as it is, put a new combo on 5 to at least give a minor visual indicator that something's up here.



The mapset needs work but it's a cool song and I like what it might become. Have a star. Good luck!

All difficulties updated. Thanks Soaprman.

Soaprman wrote:

The hitsounds seem to be placed kind of randomly. They're so disorganized that it actually made the map a little harder to play.

01:14:941 (5,6,7) - This threw me off while playing. It's probably best to just make the spacing here like in the triplets after it. If you insist on keeping it as it is, put a new combo on 5 to at least give a minor visual indicator that something's up here.

I made the hitsounds have a bit more rhythm to them, check out if they seem better now.

About those jumps, I made the spacing a bit smaller.

Hope this get ranked soon! Keep the good work up.

Hi there~ I hope you don't mind my random barge in!

General:
Take 'Nico Nico Douga' out of the tags. Doesn't need to be there if it's the source. Same with Ron, and Fukkireta.
Add your own name to the tags. Add the guest difficulties names, too~
For all maps, the breaks are too long. Map some more of the breaks.
Also, kiai time needs to be added and placed in the same place.


Easy+Normal:
Modding these two together since I basically am saying the same for them.
Consider remapping these two difficulties. Especially Easy.
Don't make the whole thing just circles and Sliders making a plus sign.
Look at Meon's Hard and Orkel's Insane for reference. You want notes all over the place like that.
Move both difficulties circle size ticks one to the left.
Now; for easy:
Really, really conside remapping. It's only circles. Add sliders, and a spinner. I believe you have to have a spinner in at least each difficulty to make it rankable.
For Normal:
Same thing. Don't make it just in a plus shape. Make some movement, you know?

Hard and Insane are good to me, besides that.

Good work, all in all!
Take my star~

I know this is only your second map so don't take any of this too harshly

-Was reading previous posts, yes remove the stuff in the tags that is in the title/artist/source and add the guest mappers names, but don't add your own name onto it
-I would resize background so it is 800x600
-Delete osb file in folder and do full submit
-Make sure every difficulty has a preview point and in the same place
-Make sure all of the offsets are the same (I get around 1339)
-The video is....annoying...when playing (I don't think I would be the only one to say this) can't you find something else or just remove it?

Easy:
I agree with the mod before this, it really needs to be remapped or deleted, it is just notes every white tick in the same pattern, either remap completely adding sliders, spinners, some interesting patterns with the notes etc or just get rid of

Normal:
Stats are too high for a normal...HP Drain Rate -3 or -4
Overall difficulty -2
make the circles 1 size bigger
Again kinda same comment as easy, at least this one has sliders but its just so repetitive, try and spread your notes out more and put some more creativity into it
Not much else I can say about it at the moment

Meon's Hard:
This map still repeats alot, I realize the song repeats alot but you can still try and come up with several different ways to map it
00:10:737 (7) - new combo
00:20:937 - kind of empty, put something here
01:05:137 (7) - new combo

Orkel's Insane:
00:34:541 (4,5,6,7,8) - kind of confusing
odd to have a break at the end just for 2 notes

PM me after you have fixed all of this and I will star

Updated my diff, thanks James and Kuyuki. Made the short confusing stream a more normal one, and mapped some more in the long break in the middle of the song so it's now shorter. I also made the cross streams less confusing. Waiting Tag to upload new version.

I'll probably keep the break->two notes at the end though, I've seen many maps with similar endings and it doesn't seem that bad in my opinion.

[Overall]
Need Easy difficulty, imo. Begginers can't read normal, because Normal have many moments like:

blue tick, red tick, red tick, white tick.. and etc. It's really hard for begginers.

Revome .osb file and do fullsubmission.

[Normal]
Why you don't want use only 1/2 for normal? I'm sure normal no need 1/3 and etc if you no have easy.
This rhythm really hard to understand if you can't read bits.

00:19:739 - need break.
00:47:335 (3,1) - this spacing looks hard for normal. fix this. Make it like 00:48:539 (2,3).
01:24:935 (1) - end in 01:26:539 also add finish.

[Meon's Hard]
Need Previev Point.

Pink bg + default colors + KIAI = Party time! Haha, just joke, you can keep it.

[Orkel's Insane]
This map have really bad spacing, i really don't know how i can explame it, but this spacign is bad.

Okay. First thing what i want to say - It's really insane!! Spacing really is hard.

00:06:541 (4) - so sharp. Remove this and add 2 bits, like 3x stream.
00:16:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ohh.. It's not really good for play.
00:32:141 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - hard jump + hard stream with "cool spacing" not really good too.
You just can make it better spacing for stream.
00:34:042 (1) - remove this bit.
00:57:542 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i really don't like it.
00:58:742 (9,10,1) - (1) is so close to (10) you don't think so?
01:00:942 (4,5) - revome slider and make 3x stream.
01:10:542 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - hell yeah, again.
01:14:942 (1,2,3) - need fix spacing.
01:18:942 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - this part is confusing.
01:24:742 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - please, remake this.. maybe something like this.

hihi faicpoonch fats animayo goyus


[Normal]
Cool, a bit on the boring side but meeep
00:07:539 (3) - Maybe remove this and make 00:06:935 (2) repeat?
00:09:139 (6) - Move 1/4 and make 00:08:539 (4) repeat? Note you might have to change note placement because of spacing again
00:11:335 (1,2,3) - This sounds better if you make them a single slider
00:14:535 (1) - This really sounds weird, I suggest shortening it by 1/4
01:00:939 - 01:06:939 - I suggest mixing up the patterns a bit like adding more sliders and less linear note placement to increase variety and fun factor

[Meon's Hard]
Nice and simple
01:25:937 (4,5) - I suggest stacking them and moving them to the right, next to 01:25:337 (3)

[Orkel's Insane]
>_>
00:16:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - lolwat
00:32:141 (1,2,3,4) - Really random jump, sounds weird as well. Recommending to change it/remove it
00:32:941 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Sounds weird too, can't see/hear how this fits the music or the rhythm flow :<
00:46:541 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - This really sounds and plays better imho if you make them just 1/4 notes, feel free to make them jumpy and stuff
01:10:541 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - again lowat
01:16:741 (13) - Replace the clap with a whistle maybe?
01:18:341 (3,4) - I strongly suggest to either flip them so it forms a more smooth flow from 01:17:941 (1,2) or changing 3's combo colour

Ugh, sorry about the lateness of this update. I've been damn busy the past week.

-Changed according to all mods so far
-Changed the placement of a few combos so they flow better
-Mapped through the latter half of the long break
-Added 2 very small break points where I thought the HP drain was unfair

Also as a general mod I'd recommend setting the timing points of all the difficulties to 00:05:939 or 01:00:339 (probably 00:05:939) for good presentation.

Thanks to everyone for the mods by the way.

Download: Ron + Lamaze-P - Fukkireta (Mischievous Function) (Taggart) [Meon's Hard].osu

Nice work guys, star'd, keep it up.

Starred! :)

Star~

Star

<3

Got most of the current updates ready, just waiting on Orkel, although I'm taking this time to see if there is anything I can polish on Normal.

Ahem...I'm kinda new at this, so I don't really know how to do this, but...

I've created two new maps for this song, an Easy difficulty and what I call a Normal difficulty. Are you interested? Or am I too late to jump into this? And how would I go about uploading them? Do I just use the uploader as if I was submitting a new map?

I also have a Teto skin I threw together. Would you like to see it?

I feel like a noob. Sorry for asking such silly questions.

Shiny_skydragon wrote:

Ahem...I'm kinda new at this, so I don't really know how to do this, but...

I've created two new maps for this song, an Easy difficulty and what I call a Normal difficulty. Are you interested? Or am I too late to jump into this? And how would I go about uploading them? Do I just use the uploader as if I was submitting a new map?

I also have a Teto skin I threw together. Would you like to see it?

I feel like a noob. Sorry for asking such silly questions.

Oh, sure. Just upload them in a zip/rar file and PM them to me and I'll check them out.

upped the fixed diff to taggart yesterday, took some advice from nacho (thanks)

Shiny_skydragon: About your normal map:

use distance snap

At the moment the spacing is very inconsistent, even though the speed is the same the beats are further or closer apart. Choose a suitable distance spacing, turn on the "distance snap" button and re-position all notes in the map.

yadda yadda have a star

oh ye this avatar is cool

this is p hot

Awesome!

Hard
1k spinners are unrankable
00:58:739 (6) - 1 less repeat
00:59:339 (1) - unrankable

Insane
not too crazy about the spacing

A star for my actual brother.

star!

Sorry I've been gone for a while... my internet died for the past two days, so I couldn't see any replies even if I tried.

Thanks for waking me up, Orkel... anyway, here's a bit of an edit on my normal map... I might play around with it some more, but I have to leave in a few minutes and I won't be able to do any more for tonight. Sorry if this is a little too soon. I mainly just snapped most of it.

Figures it would be spacing that gets me, now that I'm addicted to distance snap on another map I was working on that I haven't uploaded yet.

[EDIT]: Turns out I had more time than I thought. I think I worked out a lot of the problems on my beatmap now. Reuploaded.

Download: Ron + Lamaze-P - Fukkireta (Mischievous Function) (Taggart) [Shiny_skydragon's Normal].osu

Much better now, good job!

Now we gotta wait for more modders to give tips and point other errors in all of our maps.

Something I noticed though,

00:58:535 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Atm these have same spacing, but the other goes faster than the other so the spacing is wrong

Orkel wrote:

Much better now, good job!

Now we gotta wait for more modders to give tips and point other errors in all of our maps.

Something I noticed though,

00:58:535 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Atm these have same spacing, but the other goes faster than the other so the spacing is wrong

Okay, fixed it! Thanks! Uploaded again.

And I better star this map before I forget

Anyway, this is just my general opinion, but I think this map really needs an easy difficulty. I don't think Normal can be passed by a new player (I'm lucky if I make a B on it), and my Normal definitely can't be passed by someone new. I know that this map already has 4 difficulties, but if they can't pass any of them, they won't play it.

Download: Ron + Lamaze-P - Fukkireta (Mischievous Function) (Taggart) [Shiny_skydragon's Normal].osu

Normal:

Change this diffs name to Easy? (If you do, make circle size largest and reduce approach rate and overall difficulty at least two ticks). This would work better as an Easy diff imo
00:05:539 (3) 1 grid to left
00:24:939 (3) Few grids to up and right, so it's symmetrical with (1)
00:51:339 (7) New combo
00:53:739 (1) Remove new combo


Orkel's Insane:

00:35:339 This break feels a bit dumb. Map it?

Other diffs were fine
Star~

Not sure of the renaming of Normal to Easy, but apart from that, updated. Thanks!

star o.o

Ohh fuck, I've made a nasty mistake. There are parts where there are two notes on the exact same timing and it's gotta be fixed. Taggart is offline atm so I'll give him the fixed version to upload when he comes back.

Upped the fixed version, crisis averted.

Star~

Cause it's awesome.

I soooo double posted.... whoops. >3<

fuck no im stuck with this again

Star~

- General: (Considerations and things you need to check/fix for the whole map)

• Remove the commas from the tags
  Can't you find a better "comboburst.png"? The top of the image is cutted...
  Video Offset -130
  Offset: 1342

- Normal:

1. .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
   Approach Rate and Overall Difficulty 7 in a Normal? :<
   
2. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
   00:23:335 (1) - move it up a bit?
   
3. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
   96 unsnapped objects.
   00:08:135 (4,5,6) - (6) should be closer to (5)
   00:48:139 (1,2,3) - why the sudden jump between (1) and (2)? It doesn't fit at all... :<
   01:13:235 (3) - 01:23:539 (2) - move it 1/4 later and make it 1/4 shorter
   01:22:335 (2) - make it 1/4 shorter
   This difficulty suffers from spacing inconsistencies: the kind of spacing you used here requires a almost perfect usage of grid snapping or else you come up with patterns that don't match and may end up consusing the player (example: 01:02:539 (1,2,3,1,2,3), 01:18:535 (1,2,1,2))

- Shiny_Skydragon's Normal:

1. .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
   This is at least a Normal+ imho.
   That spacing is so cloooooose.
   
2. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
   00:17:735 (4) - move the sliderpoints like this to have it centred better:
   
   SPOILER

   
   01:03:335 (5) - move it 1 square to the left
   
3. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
   This difficulty had a different offset (just to let you know, even now that i gave you a new one)
   00:56:935 (3,4,5) - 00:59:335 (1,2,3) - really really really hard to read. A triangle formation is better for these patterns.

- Meon's Hard:

1. .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
   
2. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
   01:17:739 - add a beat here? It sounds really nice.
   01:22:937 (8) - stack it under 01:21:937 (5), it looks better.
   
3. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
   202 unsnapped beats.

- Orkel's Insane:

1. .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
   I think you should clean up some of the Finish hitsounds, some of them really felt out of place.
   Some really confusing patterns, but i'm not really against that.
   
2. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
   01:19:739 (1,2) - adding the new combo at (2) and removing it at (1) helps the player to read the trap.
   
3. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
   392 unsnapped notes.

This beatmap still needs to be cleaned up more (mostly talking about Normal) and you should NOT to forget to resnap all notes (and recalculate sliders) if you change timing.
After you're done with the fixes, feel free to call me again.

Oh im Loving this song!
Thx for bringing this to osu finally!

Hope this will be ranked.

- General: (Considerations and things you need to check/fix for the whole map)

• Remove the commas from the tags
  Comboburst.png's height should be 767 px ;_; (Imho you should just remove it since the other two are really cool and this one is off-styled)
  Also, i just noticed that the video is 720p (and 16MB for 1:30 wtf). Since HD makes people lag are makes compression artifacts more noticeable, here's a 480p (7.8MB still HQ, don't worry): http://www.mediafire.com/?kert148hlav950f
  New Video Offset: -90. You can edit this by manually editing the .osu files (every difficulty). Search for
  

  Video,0,"fukkireta.avi"

  and make it
  

  Video,-90,"fukkireta.avi"

- Normal:
Now this difficulty plays a loooot better.

1. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
   01:23:442 (2) - move it 1/4 later and make it 1/4 shorter (and fix spacing, obviously)

- Shiny_Skydragon's Normal:

1. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
   00:56:935 (3,4,5) - 00:59:335 (1,2,3) - hey, i know i said "A triangle formation is better for these patterns", but that sudden spacing increase is really weird for this kind of map °-°

- Meon's Hard:

1. .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
   Fine.

- Orkel's Insane:

1. .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
   Fine.

Some things were not fixed, but this is a big improvement.
Next time please ask someone else to look at this map too. I'm getting used to it and i think this may lead me not to notice some things.

Add "kasane teto" to tags please, also I'm not sure is Lamaze-P should be on the artist but w/e.
Also, try to get a 4:3 BG, if not, add black lines to the border to avoid having the white lines in the border as the preview image. Nvm, I just downloaded the map and the BG is 4:3, the preview image is just being silly
Also, I'm not sure to have "nicoNicoDouga" as the source....
Don't kudosu this.

just no way. Too large modding post.

Only this: remap all difficulties, without exception

No Star from me, sorry.

lots of streams are bad :<
such as:

• 00:12:942 (1,2,3,4,5) -very hard to hit these (in Orkel's diff)

all notes following the lyrics are really bad. it's hard to read the map.
such as:

• 00:16:142 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - the rhythm should be "o ooo ooooo" (in Orkel's diff)
  00:08:842 (6) - (in Norma diff)

-Orkel-
01:19:942 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - WTF..

you should check all diffs and try to fix something >_>

well,a encouragement star here imo. hope I can see your improvement next time!

I WAS JUST GONNA MAP THIS.. Well. I hope I can make a diff if I don't like what I see!

EDIT: So.. I just played it. And I did not like it.. :C Sorry.. I would make a guest diff for ya' but I want to map the full version. Not just a minute or two. :C

Good luck with this!

OH SHIET.. It's graveyarded... -.-

I really want this beatmap to be rank ,but ,there problem with the beatmap ....the song and beat did not sync and not "melody" enough.
can make people run away from osu XD
well ,need to improve the beat ,sync the beat with the song and ,the tone and tempo is too awkward ,need to repair on that ^_^

Oh god, you guys must think I am dead...

I am really, really sorry. As you may have guessed, my internet died again. And it's been dead for months and I really have had no regular way to get on it. I really didn't expect this to happen when I signed onto this beatmap.

I worked on my difficulty and the skin (they still kinda suck), but it really doesn't matter anymore because the beatmap's dead, does it? Ah well. It isn't even a Normal difficulty anymore. Maybe if I get bored (and Taggart doesn't mind) I'll pick up this song and do my own version if he's done with it for good. But it would have to be when I have stable internet which might be at the end of the summer if I'm lucky.

I've been looking at the posts I've made and I hope I haven't sounded too pushy throughout this entire thing. I wasn't (and still am not) trying to take over. I guess I just got a little over-enthusiastic.

Well, that 's it. Just posted to let you people know I didn't die.

Shiny_skydragon wrote:

Oh god, you guys must think I am dead...

I am really, really sorry. As you may have guessed, my internet died again. And it's been dead for months and I really have had no regular way to get on it. I really didn't expect this to happen when I signed onto this beatmap.

I worked on my difficulty and the skin (they still kinda suck), but it really doesn't matter anymore because the beatmap's dead, does it? Ah well. It isn't even a Normal difficulty anymore. Maybe if I get bored (and Taggart doesn't mind) I'll pick up this song and do my own version if he's done with it for good. But it would have to be when I have stable internet which might be at the end of the summer if I'm lucky.

I've been looking at the posts I've made and I hope I haven't sounded too pushy throughout this entire thing. I wasn't (and still am not) trying to take over. I guess I just got a little over-enthusiastic.

Well, that 's it. Just posted to let you people know I didn't die.

Map's not dead, mate.

Not yet anyway.

Been busy with all sorts of other things which is why there has been little to no activity on the map for a long while.

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