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GYZE - HONESTY

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Bibbity Bill
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 8:28:24 PM

Artist: GYZE
Title: HONESTY
Tags: black bride melodic death metal ettore rigotti deathstream rsi feat disarmonia mundi
BPM: 185
Filesize: 8520kb
Play Time: 05:03
Difficulties Available:
  1. DISHONEST (7.11 stars, 2223 notes)
Download: GYZE - HONESTY
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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5th map, 1st ranked

SLOW SLIDER AT THE VERY END SO BE CAREFUL NOT TO BREAK

special thanks:
emu1337 for the new background edit
The Emperor for moral support

old map

_Nico_
Awesome song!
amax
Finally a good map that isnt 99% jumps but 99% streams :) go for ranked :o
Topic Starter
Bibbity Bill

Tilt on English wrote:

Finally a good map that isnt 99% jumps but 99% streams :) go for ranked :o
it's 4:59 drain time so sadly it doesn't fit within the ranking criteria :(

_Nico_ wrote:

Awesome song!
glad you enjoyed it!
wendyes
5:00 drain time isnt that strictly enforced, if you're close enough it's usually allowed
semaphore
i fucking love you fav band thanks
Topic Starter
Bibbity Bill
no problem, glad you enjoy the song aha
-Arche
Will you try to go for ranked ? It actually fit the ranking criteria and with the 800pp from Hanes I think many people want to see this ranked on bancho :)
Topic Starter
Bibbity Bill

Arche-kun wrote:

Will you try to go for ranked ? It actually fit the ranking criteria and with the 800pp from Hanes I think many people want to see this ranked on bancho :)
as i said in the reddit thread without any star priority or mods i don't think its rankable till some happen :(
-Arche
Actually I think you should just fix jumps and your map will be ok :thinking:
awesomemacD
03:13:842 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - Just pointing something out in this section:
The rhythm here ignores the drums/snares on 03:13:842 (5) - 03:14:005 (1) - 03:14:329 (2) - 03:14:653 (3) -.
The song would be expressed much better if repeat sliders started at 03:13:842 (5) - and continued on each drum/snare.
03:14:653 (3) - As for the downbeat here, personally I think that the next stream should start here, but if you want to keep the fourth repeat slider and you find a way for it to work then be my guest.
Topic Starter
Bibbity Bill

awesomemacD wrote:

03:13:842 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - Just pointing something out in this section:
The rhythm here ignores the drums/snares on 03:13:842 (5) - 03:14:005 (1) - 03:14:329 (2) - 03:14:653 (3) -.
The song would be expressed much better if repeat sliders started at 03:13:842 (5) - and continued on each drum/snare.
03:14:653 (3) - As for the downbeat here, personally I think that the next stream should start here, but if you want to keep the fourth repeat slider and you find a way for it to work then be my guest.
yea i definitely should of extended the stream to 03:14:167 - and have the sliders start there i'll definitely fix that issue when i do revive the map, i just don't think it's worth reviving it for that small fix. thanks for the feedback though

Arche-kun wrote:

Actually I think you should just fix jumps and your map will be ok :thinking:
what jumps do you mean?
-Arche
GYZE - Honesty (Bibbity Bill) [Dishonest]


Rythms :

00:06:707 (1) - I would personally make it as a stream
00:34:599 (1) - I dont understand why there is a circle on this tick while not on 00:24:221 , 00:26:815 , etc... Maybe remove this one or add circle on the others
01:28:113 (1,2,3,4) - Imo, this should be a kick sliders (reverse slider) to emphasize the lyrics and the start of the chorus or maybe you should reduce the scaling of this part to make the player understanding than the chorus is starting
02:32:977 (1,2,3,4) - ^
03:43:032 (5,6,7,8) - ^ Maybe this too but because of the blank before this I think than just a scaling change would be enought
04:03:789 (3,4,5,6) - ^ Same for this. The scaling change is really nice but there is a really long stream before so I think people would like to take back some stamina so maybe a kickslider would be good but, ugh, I liked the spacing change so... I think you should harmonize with the previous point 03:43:032 (5,6,7,8). If you choose to use a kick slider then go for it too but if you want to just change the scaling, keep the original's one here.
02:53:085 (1) - I dont understand why there is a blank space after that, I would place a kick slider if I were you
04:05:410 (1) - I think there is no reason for this one to be so far from 04:05:734 (1), you should homogenize the spacing for 04:05:410 (1,1,2,3) (or maybe just change 04:05:410 (1) to stream)

Aesthetics:

00:41:572 (1,4,6) - Try to make the distant between 00:41:572 (1,4) and 00:42:059 (4,6) equal and align
00:42:221 (5,7) - Since 00:42:059 (4,6) are in a diagonal, I think 00:42:221 (5,7) should be either, like this https://puu.sh/yQiTX/c7c80fb6e8.png (I know you ctrl+h 00:42:059 (4,6) but imo, it would look better like this)
00:42:221 (5,7,2) - Obviously, if you apply what is said here ^, dont forget to realign this triangle :D
00:49:194 (6) - While 00:48:383 (1,2,3,4,5) was making an octogon, 00:49:194 (6) fucked everything because its not correctly align :o
00:49:356 (7) - Maybe you could make a triangle using 00:48:545 (2,5) as you did before with 00:42:221 (5,7,2)
00:49:518 (1) - If you apply the change to 00:49:194 (6), dont forget to snap the slider's end to it
00:50:491 (4,1,1) - Make this as triangle
00:59:897 (1) - Put the head of the slider a little bit under so the flow with 00:58:924 (2,4,6) will look better
01:21:140 (2) - I think this slider should be with a sharp angle to improve the flow of the part
01:21:140 (2,1) - 01:22:599 (1) - Could be align with 01:21:140 (2) please :(
02:04:275 (5,6,7) - Be careful, 02:04:275 (5) is actually closer to 02:04:437 (6) than 02:04:599 (7)
02:08:978 (3,4) - Place a circle on the head of the slider and rotate it and 02:08:978 (3) to 15°, it would flow better
02:12:545 (1) - Ctrl+h and ctrl+g and place it where he was and try to align the curve with the curve of the slider's 02:13:032 (3)
02:17:248 (5) - I'd place it in the slider's 02:18:221 (3) personally, it looks cool and it flows nice imo :p
02:20:005 (3,2) - same than ^
Ok, this one will be hard to explain but imo its something really cool you could make. Place 02:25:518 (1) in 02:23:897 (3) as you did with 02:26:491 (1), it should look like this https://puu.sh/yQkxu/d0ed15b37e.png Now, put the head of this slider 02:26:491 (1) on the slider's end of 02:25:518 (1) And now, align the end of this slider 02:28:113 (1) with the curve of 02:26:491 (1)
02:54:545 (3,5,7) - Maybe you could make those 3 circles align or at least equidistant
02:56:653 (1,2) - I know the slider's end of 02:57:140 (2) blanket with 02:56:653 (1) but the fact that the slider's end of it is a little out fucked everything. Maybe a slider velocity change could fix that, or just rearange the blanket :(
03:17:167 (2,3,4,1) - Im disappointed about the end of this stream :thinking: I'd do it like this https://puu.sh/yQkZj/a141f74738.png
03:25:194 (1,1) - Blanket the slider's end of 03:26:491 (1) with 03:25:194 (1)
03:26:491 (1,1) - Blanket the slider's end of 03:26:491 (1) with the lower curve of 03:27:788 (1)
03:36:870 (5,6) - I would turn them into slider 1/2
03:38:167 (1,2,3,4) - And those into kick sliders
04:21:302 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I'd try to make 04:22:032 (6,7,8,1) much closer to 04:21:383 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4) like this https://puu.sh/yQl9L/23824824a6.png

Nice map ! I hope we'll see it ranked one day :D
Topic Starter
Bibbity Bill
thanks for the mod, will apply it later today or tomorrow
athyriel
niggers must be staked
-PloX
When ranked D:

Nice map tho!!! :)
Topic Starter
Bibbity Bill

Ako chan wrote:

When ranked D:

Nice map tho!!! :)
when i get some motivation to work on this map again.

and thanks
-PloX
isn't ok? i love this style...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1nJXQIjjM

this is my fc.. 27/12 lol (old name)
Smradupan
This map looks so cool...please tell me you plan to revive this at some point...( Same applies for the "ForK" ICDC map of yours...)
Topic Starter
Bibbity Bill

sdolnicek wrote:

This map looks so cool...please tell me you plan to revive this at some point...( Same applies for the "ForK" ICDC map of yours...)
at some point i will, it's just both maps are ancient, and my standards nowadays have gone waaaaay up for quality than when i was new at mapping, but eventually i will give them both polish.
Smradupan
Hi, here I come as promised. Nice to see the stream transitions fixed. Btw. the sliders at 02:57:626 and 03:08:329 feel a bit slower than they should. (I get it why did you make them slower, but I feel like they could be like 0.05 - 0.1x faster)
- 03:32:167 (1) This kick-slider feels like it does not have to be longer than the previous one imo.
- 04:24:059 ( 7 - 12 ) This part could use a bigger curve, like this: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/kk4egIA.jpg , https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/7x1wsL5.jpg , https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/k9UKuet.jpg
- 04:49:518 and onwards - increase spacing a bit for this ending part.

Good luck with BN hunting !
Topic Starter
Bibbity Bill

sdolnicek wrote:

Hi, here I come as promised. Nice to see the stream transitions fixed. Btw. the sliders at 02:57:626 and 03:08:329 feel a bit slower than they should. (I get it why did you make them slower, but I feel like they could be like 0.05 - 0.1x faster) 02:57:626 is fine imo 03:08:329 is definitely is too slow so ill change that
- 03:32:167 (1) This kick-slider feels like it does not have to be longer than the previous one imo. listen at .25 speed theres 4 1/6th sounds there, just how the song is to use a different rhythm
- 04:24:059 ( 7 - 12 ) This part could use a bigger curve, like this: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/kk4egIA.jpg , https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/7x1wsL5.jpg , https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/k9UKuet.jpg personally disagree, the curve seems fine to me during play atleast
- 04:49:518 and onwards - increase spacing a bit for this ending part. was following the drums here to mimick the drums at the start 00:22:275 -, but nice suggestion will keep it in mind and probably apply at some point

Good luck with BN hunting !
thanks!
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