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IOSYS - Alice Dere

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Rad-
595 posts
Joined June 2011
Rad-
Hello!

[Hard]00:26:905 (2),(3) - add these 2 circles on the same spot of 00:26:788 (1) to make a triple, fits better with the song
00:30:538 (1) - 00:37:100 (1) change SV to 0,80 till here, then change to 1,00 again, and add NC to 00:37:100 (1) dont forget to snap sliders again
01:04:756 (2) - make slider end at 01:04:991 and move 01:05:459 (3) to behind the slider, making 01:05:459 empty to go well with the vocal
01:13:663 (5) - add a reverse to this slider and make the next pattern look like this, after adding a circle to 01:14:834 (6)
SPOILER
01:20:694 (5) - Make this slider end at half as well, adding a circle above around at 45º leaving 01:21:397 empty and make the next pattern look more like this
SPOILER
01:30:538 (1) - make this slider start at 01:30:303, remove the clap at the end, move the slider a bit to the right and add a circle behind it, with a clap, and make 01:31:241 (3) a bit further to the right
02:45:069 (8) - Move it down a bit more
02:45:538 (1) - Make this slider start at 02:45:303 (1) and add a circle behind it with a clap just like before
04:05:694 (4) - make this circle between 3 and 5 instead of too close to 3[/list]
blahpy
297 posts
Joined November 2013
blahpy
[lohvin's Easy]

This one is very important:

01:50:225 (1) and 01:51:163 (2) - These two sliders should be 1/4 longer to match the beat of the song correctly.
That is to say, instead of this:

You should have this:


This one is only a suggestion and you don't need to change if you prefer not to:

00:24:913 (3) - There are a few sliders like this that have the reverse arrow at a time where there is no obvious beat in the song, you might want to see if there is a way that you can make those sound better.


Good luck to get this ranked! I like this song and I hope it can be ranked one day :)
CrazyrabbitKGE
89 posts
Joined June 2014
CrazyrabbitKGE
Nice job; you are on the right track. It... it was just really hard to mod for some reason. What a destructive song.
lolikai
92 posts
Joined March 2014
lolikai
ok
Last edited by lolikai , edited 1 time in total.
Darcsol
287 posts
Joined January 2010
Topic Starter
Darcsol

[sekai] wrote:

00:16:241 add a note
00:23:506 (2) - so far 00:23:155
00:26:788 (1) - ^
01:04:756 (2,3) - 1/2 slider rhythm
01:09:913 (6) - NC
01:17:413 (6) - ^
01:27:256 (2,3) - I suggest 2 1/2 slider rhythm
01:28:897 (6) - NC
01:33:350 add a note
02:39:913 (6) - NC
02:55:147 (6) - remove this NC
02:58:663 (6) - ^
03:02:413 (7) - ^
I'm sorry, I don't know which diff to apply your mod. And this map is not complete, so it's subject to change. You can re-mod when I'm done with the map.
lolikai
92 posts
Joined March 2014
lolikai

Darcsol wrote:

[sekai] wrote:

00:16:241 add a note
00:23:506 (2) - so far 00:23:155
00:26:788 (1) - ^
01:04:756 (2,3) - 1/2 slider rhythm
01:09:913 (6) - NC
01:17:413 (6) - ^
01:27:256 (2,3) - I suggest 2 1/2 slider rhythm
01:28:897 (6) - NC
01:33:350 add a note
02:39:913 (6) - NC
02:55:147 (6) - remove this NC
02:58:663 (6) - ^
03:02:413 (7) - ^
I'm sorry, I don't know which diff to apply your mod. And this map is not complete, so it's subject to change. You can re-mod when I'm done with the map.
ok
Patchouli Desu
21 posts
Joined October 2014
Patchouli Desu
00:23:945 - Consider making the sliders here shorter and instead add a double tap circle so that you have a *dun-dun* *dun-dun* instead of a *dun-tic-dun* *dun* to fit better with the vocals (yu-na yu-na).
00:26:971 - Stacked hit circles that are far apart as far as the song goes, there are a note in between and when I test played it I pressed the slider too early because a note in the melody does not have a hit circle in the map. Remember that you are mapping a hard map.
00:29:600 - Timing doesn't fit the vocals (if that was what you were going for)
00:34:991 - A single circle represents 2 notes of the song.
00:37:102 - Double tap on a single note? (Reverse problem compared to the last benchmark)
00:49:022 - Great opportunity to add taps of 1/2 in the leadup to the chorus.

EDIT: This is referring to the hard difficulty.
Patchouli Desu
21 posts
Joined October 2014
Patchouli Desu
Looking at your 2 ranked maps (having hard as the highest) I assume you'd appreciate a guest difficulty on the insane level?

Short sample of what I had in mind: http://puu.sh/jgWVl/6cf03b21e9.osu
Darcsol
287 posts
Joined January 2010
Topic Starter
Darcsol

Patchouli Desu wrote:

Looking at your 2 ranked maps (having hard as the highest) I assume you'd appreciate a guest difficulty on the insane level?

Short sample of what I had in mind: http://puu.sh/jgWVl/6cf03b21e9.osu
From your sample, I don't think it has the quality I have in mind. Sorry.

I don't intend to map an Insane diff, but I'm not stopping anyone in making a guest diff. It better be good though.
Bursthammy
1,254 posts
Joined May 2015
Bursthammy
yo

Easy:

SPOILER
  • 01:24:913 (2,3) - I feel as though these notes feel and sound a little too awkward in terms of timing compared to the rest of the song.
    01:46:006 (2,4) - Same as before, try this: ((01:53:506 (2,4) - Like these.))
    03:20:225 (3,4) - Same ^

Could barely find anything wrong with Normal and Hard, sorry :3c

Hard:

SPOILER
  • 01:47:413 (5,6,7,8) - These notes don't fit quite as well as the previous ones, such as 00:21:163 (5,6,7,8) - which fit perfectly. Try this:
    01:51:163 (5,6) - Same ^

Sorry for the small mod, this is pretty much ready to be ranked.
Darcsol
287 posts
Joined January 2010
Topic Starter
Darcsol

qzy wrote:

Hard:

SPOILER
  • 01:47:413 (5,6,7,8) - These notes don't fit quite as well as the previous ones, such as 00:21:163 (5,6,7,8) - which fit perfectly. Try this:
    01:51:163 (5,6) - Same ^ Done a different fix instead.
Mortem
705 posts
Joined July 2013
Mortem
hi. m4m.

General:
• Find a better BG for Easy diff. Or at least edit it to 16:9 resolution.

Easy & Normal looks good to me.

Hard:
• 00:29:600 (8,9) - Replace it with slider, it will fit better to "muya".
• 01:34:288 (1) - Extend this slider to 01:38:038 - .
• 01:59:600 (8,9) - Same as first suggestion.

Everything else seems fine.
Sorry for small mod, but I didn't find any other mistakes.
Hope that helps.
Darcsol
287 posts
Joined January 2010
Topic Starter
Darcsol

Mortem wrote:

General:
• Find a better BG for Easy diff. Or at least edit it to 16:9 resolution. BG is already modified for 16:9 resolutions. It has black bars to make it fit. I'll consider finding an alternative BG for it.

Hard:
• 00:29:600 (8,9) - Replace it with slider, it will fit better to "muya". Fixed.
• 01:34:288 (1) - Extend this slider to 01:38:038 - . You mean spinner. I think it's fine. Extending it would break consistency between diffs..
• 01:59:600 (8,9) - Same as first suggestion. Fixed.
NXTKitKat
100 posts
Joined December 2014
NXTKitKat
Is this map really that old? XD How many remaps has it been through?

Add tag: project (touhou project)

Easy

01:34:288 (1) - Spinner too short for easy diff? I'd extend it to 01:38:038 -
03:04:288 (1) - Same. Only that i'd replace it with a note.
04:26:788 (1) - Same. Extend to 04:26:788 (1) -

Normal

01:45:069 (1) - Just an idea. Stack this with the next slider

Eh well that's it. Nothing on hard.
Great map great song :D hope this gets ranked soon (PLEASE)
Darcsol
287 posts
Joined January 2010
Topic Starter
Darcsol

NXTKitKat wrote:

Is this map really that old? XD How many remaps has it been through? A lot.

Add tag: project (touhou project) Added.

Normal

01:45:069 (1) - Just an idea. Stack this with the next slider Considered.
_handholding
3,109 posts
Joined April 2014
_handholding
m4m from #modreqs

[easy]
00:21:163 (3) - the curve doesnt really flow after slider (2). Move it to the left a bit
00:38:975 - add a note here?
01:29:600 - ^
01:46:006 (2,4) - i think these sliders would suit the rhythm more if they were shortened by 1/2 a beat. i.e. the same length as this slider 01:53:506 (2)
03:45:538 (2) - move to the left a bit so its not touching (1)

[Normal]
03:46:006 (2) - move this to (260y , 68x )

[Hard]
00:51:163 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - i think this would look better if the DS was consistent
01:45:069 (1) - remove NC here..?
02:23:272 - add a note here
04:04:756 (3,4) - move (4) down a bit so it doesnt touch (3)

I hope hti smod was helpful, gl
Darcsol
287 posts
Joined January 2010
Topic Starter
Darcsol

Hi Im Nathan wrote:

[Normal]
03:46:006 (2) - move this to (260y , 68x ) Those coordinates look off, but I made a different change instead.

[Hard]
00:51:163 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - i think this would look better if the DS was consistent It is except the last 3 objects?
01:45:069 (1) - remove NC here..? I think it's fine.
02:23:272 - add a note here ^
04:04:756 (3,4) - move (4) down a bit so it doesnt touch (3) Fixed.
Makyu
424 posts
Joined April 2012
Makyu
Found this in #modreqs so I though it would be look to take a look.

[General]
• Inconsistency in VieoOffset
{Hard} : -217
{lovhin's Easy} : -260
{Normal} : -217

• Inconsistency in ComboColours
{ Hard} :
Combo1 : [192,192,192] Combo2 : [250,217,27] Combo3 : [255,79,132] Combo4 : [85,119,255]
{ Normal} :
Combo1 : [214,214,214] Combo2 : [255,234,85] Combo3 : [255,66,122] Combo4 : [85,119,255]

Easy is not mentioned here, because since its a guest diff and it's using a different BG, there is not problem with it.

[Hard]

General

  1. Everything's good.

Playability

  1. add a note here? 00:53:272 - 02:23:272 - 03:45:772 - you are mostly followint the vocals in this point but you didn't choose to add a note here, consistency.
  2. this part here doesnt look good at all: 01:10:616 (7,8,9,10) - , I think this way the pattern looks AND plays better, you can obviusly take your time and do it better than me.
  3. 01:13:663 (6,7) - this looks and plays terrible, I think you should change it, there are plenty of ways to fix this issue, take your time and think wich one is better for this map!
  4. add a note here 01:34:288 - 02:30:538 - 03:04:288 - 04:26:788 - its a high beat, do not ignore high beats like this pls, you can start the spinner right away

Presentation

  1. In my opinion this 00:33:350 (6,7,1) - kind of patterns looks ugly, it can play good but they dosent look good while playing, My suggestion
  2. You could make this 00:36:163 (4) - slider curvy, looking upwards to make more variety
  3. What do you think about making ths 00:38:506 (2,3) - 01:15:303 (1,2) - a blanket? it looks better and the playability doesn't change at all
  4. What do you think about changing the shape of this sliders? because watching only straight and curvy sliders is pretty boring don't you think so?: 00:39:913 (4) - 00:18:350 (7) - 00:22:100 (7) - 00:25:850 (7) - 00:29:600 (8) -
  5. this pattern doesn't look bad at all 00:27:256 (2,3,4) - but what do you think about this, you can also improve more patterns like this, I will not point them all, check more carefuly your map and you will find out!
  6. the playabiliti of this is good 00:30:538 (1,2) - , but they way they look is not, what do you think about changin the shape of the slider a bit more?, you can obviusly make it look better! just take your time and do it good.
  7. you can imprive they way this pattern looks 00:58:663 (1,2,3,4) - , its another example.
  8. this pattern here 02:11:319 (7,1) - is good to play, but it looks too ugly, what do you think you improve it a bit more?
  9. you can make such a good patter with this 3 notes the way you put them 02:19:756 (3,4,5) - , what do you think about this? http://puu.sh/lTqLc/0477b983fd.jpg
  10. if you move 02:39:444 (5,6) - slider (6) a bit high looks way better, don't you think so?

Nazi

  1. make this stacks better 01:19:756 (3,5) - 01:19:288 (1,4) -01:31:944 (5,8) -

Combos

  1. Start a new combo in the following parts: 00:18:350 - 00:28:663 - 00:22:100 - 00:25:850 - 00:47:413 - 00:51:163 - 00:54:913 - 01:06:163 - 01:09:913 - 01:13:663 - 01:17:413 - 01:21:163 - 01:24:913 - 01:28:663 - 01:32:413 - 01:47:413 - 01:51:163 - 01:54:913 - 01:58:663 - 02:02:413 - 02:06:163 - 02:09:913 - 02:17:413 - 02:21:163 - 02:24:913 - 02:36:163 - 02:39:913 - 02:43:663 - 02:47:413 - 02:51:163 - 02:54:913 - 02:58:663 - 03:02:413 - 03:58:663 - 04:02:413 - 04:06:163 - 04:09:913 - 04:13:663 - 04:17:413 - 04:21:163 - 04:24:913 -

Overall

  1. You have some problems with the combos, as you can see I suggested you to change most of them, I am aware that some of your patters might get ruined because of my suggestion, but this is because you have such a bad way to make combos. In the other hand, the presentation of this map is kind poor, even though the playability of this map is really good, the way it is presented with poor patterns and bad overlaps makes this map looks bad even if its good (witch is a pretty good map). A fun map will often look good as well as play good.


[Normal]

General

  1. Everything's good

Playability

  1. The first thing I noticed in this diff, is that the spacing is too high for a casual player, think about reducing it. For example 00:14:600 (3,4) - this 1/2 notes should be more overlaped since the spacing will be confucing for a casual player and he might miss the combo because of this. This problem can be fixed by reducing it just a bit.

Presentation

  1. Good job!

Nazi

  1. you can improve the following blankets: 00:08:975 (3,1) - 00:10:850 (3,1) - 00:26:788 (1,2) -
  2. You can improve the following stacks: 00:19:288 (1,4) -

Overall

  1. This difficulty is really good made, besides of the little problem of spacing you have, You can improve the visual ascpect a bit more and should be ready for rank.

[lovhin's Easy]

General

  1. Everything's good

Playability

  1. A good friend of mine told me that this kind of overlaps can't occur ever in an easy. It can be confusing for a complete newbie player, Remember, an easy is meant to be done for a player that have never played this game before.
  2. Isn't the recovery time here 01:02:413 - 02:32:413 - too short? I think it is, but I don't have any suggestion to fix this if I'm right.

Overall

  1. Excelent difficulty, there are practically anything to say about this, good job!
Darcsol
287 posts
Joined January 2010
Topic Starter
Darcsol

Makyu wrote:

[General]
• Inconsistency in VieoOffset
{Hard} : -217
{lovhin's Easy} : -260 Fixed
{Normal} : -217

• Inconsistency in ComboColours
{ Hard} :
Combo1 : [192,192,192] Combo2 : [250,217,27] Combo3 : [255,79,132] Combo4 : [85,119,255]
{ Normal} :
Combo1 : [214,214,214] Combo2 : [255,234,85] Combo3 : [255,66,122] Combo4 : [85,119,255] Fixed

[Hard]

Playability

  1. add a note here? 00:53:272 - 02:23:272 - 03:45:772 - you are mostly followint the vocals in this point but you didn't choose to add a note here, consistency. I think they're all fine.
  2. this part here doesnt look good at all: 01:10:616 (7,8,9,10) - , I think this way the pattern looks AND plays better, you can obviusly take your time and do it better than me. Made different changes instead
  3. 01:13:663 (6,7) - this looks and plays terrible, I think you should change it, there are plenty of ways to fix this issue, take your time and think wich one is better for this map! Fixed
  4. add a note here 01:34:288 - 02:30:538 - 03:04:288 - 04:26:788 - its a high beat, do not ignore high beats like this pls, you can start the spinner right away I think they're all fine.

Presentation

  1. In my opinion this 00:33:350 (6,7,1) - kind of patterns looks ugly, it can play good but they dosent look good while playing, My suggestion Considered, but I tend to avoid sharp-edged sliders.
  2. You could make this 00:36:163 (4) - slider curvy, looking upwards to make more variety Added
  3. What do you think about making ths 00:38:506 (2,3) - 01:15:303 (1,2) - a blanket? it looks better and the playability doesn't change at all Made a different change instead
  4. What do you think about changing the shape of this sliders? because watching only straight and curvy sliders is pretty boring don't you think so?: 00:39:913 (4) - 00:18:350 (7) - 00:22:100 (7) - 00:25:850 (7) - 00:29:600 (8) - Some are intentional. Others I'll consider. Again, I tend to avoid sharp-edged sliders.
  5. this pattern doesn't look bad at all 00:27:256 (2,3,4) - but what do you think about this, you can also improve more patterns like this, I will not point them all, check more carefuly your map and you will find out! Considered
  6. the playabiliti of this is good 00:30:538 (1,2) - , but they way they look is not, what do you think about changin the shape of the slider a bit more?, you can obviusly make it look better! just take your time and do it good. I think it's fine currently.
  7. you can imprive they way this pattern looks 00:58:663 (1,2,3,4) - , its another example. Will be improved
  8. this pattern here 02:11:319 (7,1) - is good to play, but it looks too ugly, what do you think you improve it a bit more? I think it's fine.
  9. you can make such a good patter with this 3 notes the way you put them 02:19:756 (3,4,5) - , what do you think about this? http://puu.sh/lTqLc/0477b983fd.jpg Made a different change instead
  10. if you move 02:39:444 (5,6) - slider (6) a bit high looks way better, don't you think so? Fixed

Nazi

  1. make this stacks better 01:19:756 (3,5) - 01:19:288 (1,4) -01:31:944 (5,8) - I think they're all fine.

Combos

  1. Start a new combo in the following parts: 00:18:350 - 00:28:663 - 00:22:100 - 00:25:850 - 00:47:413 - 00:51:163 - 00:54:913 - 01:06:163 - 01:09:913 - 01:13:663 - 01:17:413 - 01:21:163 - 01:24:913 - 01:28:663 - 01:32:413 - 01:47:413 - 01:51:163 - 01:54:913 - 01:58:663 - 02:02:413 - 02:06:163 - 02:09:913 - 02:17:413 - 02:21:163 - 02:24:913 - 02:36:163 - 02:39:913 - 02:43:663 - 02:47:413 - 02:51:163 - 02:54:913 - 02:58:663 - 03:02:413 - 03:58:663 - 04:02:413 - 04:06:163 - 04:09:913 - 04:13:663 - 04:17:413 - 04:21:163 - 04:24:913 - I have to reject all of them. Explanation below.

Overall

  1. You have some problems with the combos, as you can see I suggested you to change most of them, I am aware that some of your patters might get ruined because of my suggestion, but this is because you have such a bad way to make combos. In the other hand, the presentation of this map is kind poor, even though the playability of this map is really good, the way it is presented with poor patterns and bad overlaps makes this map looks bad even if its good (witch is a pretty good map). A fun map will often look good as well as play good.

    The combos are intentional. They are long and enhances the difficulty. You made a claim about my combos yet have no explanation. Please explain. I agree the presentation of the map is subpar and I'm aware of it. I'm still debating about my presentation style so it looks messier than I usually map. Again you made a claim yet have no explanation about it, so explain please.


[Normal]

Playability

  1. The first thing I noticed in this diff, is that the spacing is too high for a casual player, think about reducing it. For example 00:14:600 (3,4) - this 1/2 notes should be more overlaped since the spacing will be confucing for a casual player and he might miss the combo because of this. This problem can be fixed by reducing it just a bit. I disagree. The "casual player" should have adequate experience to play this diff.

Nazi

  1. you can improve the following blankets: 00:08:975 (3,1) - 00:10:850 (3,1) - 00:26:788 (1,2) -
  2. You can improve the following stacks: 00:19:288 (1,4) - All fixed
NXTKitKat
100 posts
Joined December 2014
NXTKitKat
nooooo revival plssss >____<
Rlsc
9 posts
Joined November 2012
Rlsc
pls rank this
Rlsc
9 posts
Joined November 2012
Rlsc
well, it's like the first iosys song beatmap i've played, and so was my favourite one
Kradfiz
63 posts
Joined February 2014
Kradfiz
I saw this in #modreq and I love the song, so I hope my mod helps towards ranking.

[lovhin's Easy]

00:52:569 (6,1) - Seems like a small jump between these notes. Probably fine, but might make a player think there is longer time between the notes?
01:25:381 (3) - The slider seems weird with the rhythm because of the reverse on the red tick. I see it's part of the symmetry pattern, but maybe change it so that it fits better with the music?
01:46:006 (2,4) - Kind of similar to the above comment. It seems weird to have the reverse on the red tick when there is important musical emphasis being skipped on the white ticks.


[Normal]

No problems found.


[Hard]

00:14:717 (4,5) - Switch of polarity, slightly hard to read. Maybe change these circles into a slider so that the player doesn't think the second one is on a blue tick? Might be okay because of the low AR though.
00:37:217 (6,7) - Same thing here.
02:07:217 (6,7) - And here, but this is not as bad because the jump is more noticeable.
02:58:194 (5,6) - This jump seems somewhat uncalled for. The previous ones matched a change music intensity with the note, but this one does not seem to have anything special in the song here.
03:11:788 (1,2,3) - Maybe consider less overlapping on these notes? The spacing between them is 1/4 but it might be easier to read if they are more spaced out.
03:44:600 (5) - The あっあ～ん vocal is not mapped here, even though it was in the previous parts of the song. I feel like mapping it in would fit better with the song.


Overall very nice beatmap. Good luck on ranking!
Ultima Fox
621 posts
Joined August 2013
Ultima Fox
Hi, for m4m :)

lovhin's Easy
00:39:913 (1) - This slider feels out of place because it has a weird place where it repeats, so maybe fill this space with something else
00:47:413 (2,3,4,5) - maybe something like this so it isn't just a straight line
01:09:913 (3,4) - Mine as well blanket this :)
01:25:381 (3) - Make the repeat of this on the white tick before, so that the slider ends before the downbeat and you can put a note there (also the slider feels awkward)
03:23:038 (1,2,1) - Probably should prevent stacking in an easy diff
03:30:538 (1,2) - ^

Normal
I didnt see anything really in particular, but you could add ncs in places like 01:09:913 (4) - and 01:32:413 (4) - etc


Hard
00:47:413 (7) - NC
00:51:163 (6) - ^
Etc

01:08:741 (3,4,5,6) - This pattern seems messy and weird, try cleaning it up maybe by blanketing 3 and putting (6) somewhere not on top of (4)
02:21:163 (6,7,8,9) - Mayb just make it a curve around instead of having it go back to 9
02:51:163 (6,7,8) - Too big of a jump for hard, especailly with the map so far
02:58:663 (7,8,9) - Put equidistant
03:44:600 (5,6,1) - ^

Same thing i said about ncs in normal

Sorry if it wasn't an up to scratch mod, but good luck :)
Darcsol
287 posts
Joined January 2010
Topic Starter
Darcsol

Kradfiz wrote:

[Hard]

00:14:717 (4,5) - Switch of polarity, slightly hard to read. Maybe change these circles into a slider so that the player doesn't think the second one is on a blue tick? Might be okay because of the low AR though. I think it's fine.
00:37:217 (6,7) - Same thing here. ^
02:07:217 (6,7) - And here, but this is not as bad because the jump is more noticeable. ^
02:58:194 (5,6) - This jump seems somewhat uncalled for. The previous ones matched a change music intensity with the note, but this one does not seem to have anything special in the song here. The jump continues the pattern of its previous ones; it just looks more intimidating. Nonetheless, I'll make some tweaks.
03:11:788 (1,2,3) - Maybe consider less overlapping on these notes? The spacing between them is 1/4 but it might be easier to read if they are more spaced out. Considered
03:44:600 (5) - The あっあ～ん vocal is not mapped here, even though it was in the previous parts of the song. I feel like mapping it in would fit better with the song. Will be mapped

Ultima Fox wrote:

Normal
I didnt see anything really in particular, but you could add ncs in places like 01:09:913 (4) - and 01:32:413 (4) - etc Considered


Hard
00:47:413 (7) - NC
00:51:163 (6) - ^
Etc Considered

01:08:741 (3,4,5,6) - This pattern seems messy and weird, try cleaning it up maybe by blanketing 3 and putting (6) somewhere not on top of (4) I think it looks fine.
02:21:163 (6,7,8,9) - Mayb just make it a curve around instead of having it go back to 9 There's a small jump between 02:21:397 (7,8) .
02:51:163 (6,7,8) - Too big of a jump for hard, especailly with the map so far The jump is the same distance as the latter ones in the last kiai time.
02:58:663 (7,8,9) - Put equidistant Consistency will break.
03:44:600 (5,6,1) - ^
Luel Roseline
1,035 posts
Joined February 2014
Luel Roseline
Soon...
Luel Roseline
1,035 posts
Joined February 2014
Luel Roseline
Well...My IOSYS beatmap is not ranked yet...
Here's my light mod and star.

[Hard]
HP drain: 5

00:14:600 (3,4) - Change to slider.
Others
02:07:100 (5,6)
04:40:850 (8,9)
00:30:069 (9,10,11,12) - Are you sure? I think this stream is unrankable in this diff...Why don't you change to repeating slider?
Others
00:43:663 (1,2,3,4)
01:03:350 (1,2,3,4)
02:00:069 (8,9,10,11)
02:13:663 (1,2,3,4)
02:33:350 (1,2,3,4)
03:55:850 (1,2,3,4)
Ayyri
Ayyri
Hello there.

The album should not be the source for this song. The source should be, "東方Project" since that is where the original song comes from. Please move, "東方河想狗蒼池" to the tags.
Darcsol
287 posts
Joined January 2010
Topic Starter
Darcsol

S A V E R Y wrote:

[Hard]
HP drain: 5 I think that's too low.

00:14:600 (3,4) - Change to slider. I think they're fine.
Others
02:07:100 (5,6)
04:40:850 (8,9)
00:30:069 (9,10,11,12) - Are you sure? I think this stream is unrankable in this diff...Why don't you change to repeating slider? I'm not aware the streams are unrankable. If you explain why they're unrankable, I'll change them, but the meantime they stay.
Others
00:43:663 (1,2,3,4)
01:03:350 (1,2,3,4)
02:00:069 (8,9,10,11)
02:13:663 (1,2,3,4)
02:33:350 (1,2,3,4)
03:55:850 (1,2,3,4)

Ayyri wrote:

The album should not be the source for this song. The source should be, "東方Project" since that is where the original song comes from. Please move, "東方河想狗蒼池" to the tags. Source replaced.
Vespirit
350 posts
Joined December 2014
Vespirit
hey, for the m4m here it is!
[ lovhin's Easy]
  1. 00:16:006 (1) - sliderend overlaps the previous slider, doesn't look very nice ;-;
  2. 00:24:913 (3) - the reverse isn't really on a strong sound, but the slider runs over a few vocals that imo should have something there
  3. 00:28:663 (3) - ^ (except you could have nothing on the last beat of the measure for the fact the music changes)
  4. 00:37:569 (1) - the slider ends on a strong sound, and as well the gap at 00:38:975, I cant find any reason to skip that beat. here is what I would do, fixes both problems:
  5. 00:47:413 (2,3) - could change to slider so that the 4 circles in a row isn't as hard?
  6. 00:51:162 (3,4) - ^
  7. 01:25:381 (3) - it doesn't follow the music at all imo. you should have a 1/1 reverse slider and then a circle, fits the music better
  8. 01:27:256 (1,2) - the beat you skipped, I think you should just make a slider end and change (1) to a slider. as for the beat between (4) and (5), I think it should be clicked so you could change (5) to a slider end
  9. 01:33:350 - why nothing here? its a prominent vocal
  10. 01:46:006 (2,4) - also don't follow the rhythm very well, the slider reverses feel random, don't really go on a strong sound
  11. 02:19:288 (1,2) - why not just stack?
  12. 02:26:788 (1) - same problem with the reverse, there are other, better sounds to map than that one
  13. 02:28:663 (1) - end it at 02:31:944? not enough recovery time as it is
  14. 02:48:350 (3,1) - why did you change spacing
[ Normal]
  1. 00:58:663 (1) - flow from (4) is not very good, could change it so that it goes to the right
  2. 00:30:069 (1) - why not have the player click on the end? strong sound
  3. 02:00:069 (1) - ^
  4. 03:46:006 (2) - overlaps with (7) before, doesn't look nice imo
  5. 03:46:475 (3,4,5) - maybe its a little too hard for a normal? you could change the first 2 circles to a slider
[ Hard]
  1. hp and od are a little high for a hard diff, maybe put them both around 6?
  2. 00:14:717 (4,5) - I would make this a slider, I don't think anyone expects a 3/4 gap here, and making it a slider would help with that
  3. 00:37:217 (6,7) - ^
  4. 04:40:850 (9,10) - ^
  5. 00:33:350 (6,1) - overlaps slightly
  6. 01:27:959 (4,5) - ^ (should avoid overlaps like this as much as possible, makes for a cleaner map)
  7. 01:16:475 (3,4,5) - why such large spacing here? music doesn't get that much more intense here
  8. 02:36:866 (6,7) - same, spacing should be consistent here
  9. 03:01:475 (3,4,5,6) - ^
Darcsol
287 posts
Joined January 2010
Topic Starter
Darcsol

HydroCannon13 wrote:

[ Normal]
  1. 00:58:663 (1) - flow from (4) is not very good, could change it so that it goes to the right Fixed
  2. 00:30:069 (1) - why not have the player click on the end? strong sound
  3. 02:00:069 (1) - ^ Considered
  4. 03:46:006 (2) - overlaps with (7) before, doesn't look nice imo I think it's fine.
  5. 03:46:475 (3,4,5) - maybe its a little too hard for a normal? you could change the first 2 circles to a slider There are numerous instances of this pattern before it. Why call this one out?
[ Hard]
  1. hp and od are a little high for a hard diff, maybe put them both around 6? Considered, but this is a hard diff after all.
  2. 00:14:717 (4,5) - I would make this a slider, I don't think anyone expects a 3/4 gap here, and making it a slider would help with that A number of modders mentioned these parts. I think they're fine, but that might change.
  3. 00:37:217 (6,7) - ^
  4. 04:40:850 (9,10) - ^
  5. 00:33:350 (6,1) - overlaps slightly I think it's fine.
  6. 01:27:959 (4,5) - ^ (should avoid overlaps like this as much as possible, makes for a cleaner map) I disagree. Overlaps add to the map's "aesthetics" if done properly.
  7. 01:16:475 (3,4,5) - why such large spacing here? music doesn't get that much more intense here Spacing shortened
  8. 02:36:866 (6,7) - same, spacing should be consistent here Both are fine.
  9. 03:01:475 (3,4,5,6) - ^
Zyl
521 posts
Joined October 2013
Zyl
~M4M~


General


  1. Read this please (lovhin).
  2. Irrelevant tags: tsundere Dog
  3. *: If you look that asterisk, it means UNRANKABLE
.

lovhin's Easy


I'll pass from the flow problems on this diff


Difficulty Peaks
Difficulty Peaks: Parts of the map that the objects make the diff harder as it is.



Difficulty Peaks


You MUST re-work on those parts of the diff


  1. 00:47:413 (2,3,4,5) - *
  2. 00:50:694 (2,3,4,5,6) - *
  3. 01:27:256 (1,2,3,4,5) - *
  4. 01:52:100 (3,4,1) - *
  5. 02:34:288 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - *

Mod


  1. Try to evade more than 3 single taps on a Easy/Normal diff. *
  2. 00:13:663 (1,1) - Overlaps ARE NOT permitted on easy diffs. *
  3. 00:24:913 (3) - Try to put emphasis on the white tick and not the red tick.
  4. 00:28:663 (3) - ^.
  5. 00:38:975 (3) - Missing note.
  6. 00:47:413 (2,3,4,5) - Check at the "Difficulty Peaks" box please.
  7. 01:13:194 (2,1) - Overlaps ARE NOT permitted on easy diffs. *
  8. 01:23:038 (1) - Try to put emphasis on the white tick and not the red tick.
  9. 01:25:381 (3) - ^.
  10. 01:46:006 (2,3) - ^.
  11. 02:19:288 (1,2) - Overlaps ARE NOT permitted on easy diffs. *
  12. 02:21:163 (2,1) - ^.
  13. 02:24:444 (2,3,1) - Stacking + Overlapping are totally awful for a easy diff, please change it, and keep in mind that the Overlapping and the Stacking are "prohibited" on the easy diffs from now on i WILL NOT mention nothing about Overlaps or Stacking problems, you need to find them by yourself. *
  14. 02:28:663 (1) - Preferably i will start this spinner here: 02:30:538 (1) - .
  15. 03:11:788 (1,2) - Try to put emphasis on the white tick and not the red tick, from now on i will not mention you any emphasis problem.

    Distance Snap Problems


    This just apply for Easy/Normal diffs

  16. 02:16:475 (2,3) - 1,09 vs 1,00 *
  17. 02:47:413 (2,3) - 1,00 vs 1,20 *
  18. 03:50:225 (3,4) - 1,01 vs 1,05 *
Normal


Difficulty Peaks
Difficulty Peaks: Parts of the map that the objects make the diff harder as it is.



Difficulty Peaks


You MUST re-work on those parts of the diff


  1. 01:52:100 (3,4,5) - *
  2. 03:26:788 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - *
  3. 03:30:538 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - *
  4. 03:45:538 (1,2,3,4,5) - *

Mod


  1. Try to evade more than 3 single taps on a Easy/Normal diff. *
  2. 00:19:288 (1,3) - Random overlap.
  3. 00:39:913 (3,5) - Another unnecesary and ^.
  4. 00:41:788 (1,1) - ^.
  5. 00:44:131 (2,1) - ^ from now on i will pass from every Overlap, dude with those random overlaps the map looks really bad... Don't be lazy and at least fix them or make better overlaps.
  6. 00:47:413 (1) - Off-screen object. *
  7. 01:20:225 (2,3) - Change pattern.
  8. 01:28:663 (4) - Off-screen object. *
  9. 01:52:100 (3,4,5) - Check at the "Difficulty Peaks" box please.
  10. 02:00:069 (1) - Remove NC.
  11. 02:35:225 (2,3) - Change pattern.
  12. 04:07:569 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - More than 4 continuous objects are REALLY hard for beginner players.
  13. 04:14:600 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^.
  14. 04:22:100 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^.
Distance Snap Problems


This just apply for Easy/Normal diffs


  • 00:31:006 (2,3) - 0,54 vs 0,99*

Final Details


Final Details

Darcsol wrote:

  1. 01:27:959 (4,5) - ^ (should avoid overlaps like this as much as possible, makes for a cleaner map) I disagree. Overlaps add to the map's "aesthetics" if done properly.
  2. 03:46:475 (3,4,5) - maybe its a little too hard for a normal? you could change the first 2 circles to a slider There are numerous instances of this pattern before it. Why call this one out?
1^: That is a REALLY bad excuse of why you make so random overlaps, because as you say "Overlaps add to the map's "aesthetics" if done properly" but your Overlaps are awfully bad created, because 1-They are so random 2- Doesn't have any shape or flow that you need or must follow 3- They look really crappy 4- Everybody is saying to you but you doesn't want to fix them.

2^: You say that but Hydro doesn't explained his point too much, the thing that he is mention it is: 1- More than 4 continuous objects are really hard for new players 2- This is like a streamer for them, yeah there are similar patterns in the map with the same rhytmn but this is the only one that have 3 single circles on it.
Keep in mind this: if too many mods mention it it's better to fix it.

I will stop here because i'm really tired of the song :( ...
Darcsol
287 posts
Joined January 2010
Topic Starter
Darcsol

Zyl wrote:

~M4M~


General


  1. Irrelevant tags: tsundere Dog Alice-Dere is a playing the word "tsundere", which is the theme of the song. "Dog" is part of the song's album 東方河想狗蒼池 translated as "River Vision Dog Blue Pond". Both tags are relevant.

Normal


Difficulty Peaks
Difficulty Peaks: Parts of the map that the objects make the diff harder as it is.



Difficulty Peaks


You MUST re-work on those parts of the diff


  1. 01:52:100 (3,4,5) - * Removed a circle.
  2. 03:26:788 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - *
  3. 03:30:538 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - *
  4. 03:45:538 (1,2,3,4,5) - * The rest are considered. Please tell me why they are unrankable. And not because the charts say so. It's petty to make such a claim. The charts are tools, not solutions.

Mod


  1. Try to evade more than 3 single taps on a Easy/Normal diff. * Please show me why this is unrankable.
  2. 00:19:288 (1,3) - Random overlap.
  3. 00:39:913 (3,5) - Another unnecesary and ^.
  4. 00:41:788 (1,1) - ^.
  5. 00:44:131 (2,1) - ^ from now on i will pass from every Overlap, dude with those random overlaps the map looks really bad... Don't be lazy and at least fix them or make better overlaps. ...but why?
  6. 00:47:413 (1) - Off-screen object. * It's within map guidelines, but sure.
  7. 01:20:225 (2,3) - Change pattern. Be more specific.
  8. 01:28:663 (4) - Off-screen object. * This is within map guidelines.
  9. 01:52:100 (3,4,5) - Check at the "Difficulty Peaks" box please.
  10. 02:00:069 (1) - Remove NC. I think it's fine.
  11. 02:35:225 (2,3) - Change pattern. Again, be more specific.
  12. 04:07:569 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - More than 4 continuous objects are REALLY hard for beginner players.
  13. 04:14:600 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^.
  14. 04:22:100 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^. This diff is not intended for beginner players, hence the name.
Distance Snap Problems


This just apply for Easy/Normal diffs


  • 00:31:006 (2,3) - 0,54 vs 0,99* Fixed

Final Details


Final Details

Darcsol wrote:

  1. 01:27:959 (4,5) - ^ (should avoid overlaps like this as much as possible, makes for a cleaner map) I disagree. Overlaps add to the map's "aesthetics" if done properly.
  2. 03:46:475 (3,4,5) - maybe its a little too hard for a normal? you could change the first 2 circles to a slider There are numerous instances of this pattern before it. Why call this one out?
1^: That is a REALLY bad excuse of why you make so random overlaps, because as you say "Overlaps add to the map's "aesthetics" if done properly" but your Overlaps are awfully bad created, because 1-They are so random 2- Doesn't have any shape or flow that you need or must follow 3- They look really crappy 4- Everybody is saying to you but you doesn't want to fix them. Do not make such nonsensical claims. Frankly, I don't get it. I have yet to find a good reason why I should avoid overlaps. Threatening me is not one of them. Only 2 modders mention this, including you. This is exaggerated and benefits no one.

2^: You say that but Hydro doesn't explained his point too much, the thing that he is mention it is: 1- More than 4 continuous objects are really hard for new players 2- This is like a streamer for them, yeah there are similar patterns in the map with the same rhytmn but this is the only one that have 3 single circles on it. Sure, but this is diff is not catered for new players. This is a Normal diff and is reflected that way. I have yet to find a good reason for it.
Seto Kousuke
osu! Alumni
610 posts
Joined June 2013
Seto Kousuke
Hiya, sorry the long delay on mod :cry:

[lovhin'sEasy]
  1. 00:13:663 (1,1) - You've been using blankets during entire map, why not here ? o: there's a random overlap there
  2. 00:39:913 (1,2,1) - Is it possible to adjust a bit the shapes so the blankets can have a consistent gap ? The gap from 00:39:913 (1) - is huge
  3. 00:49:288 (1) - Why ignore the clap in the middle of this slider? you can leave it like that, but just pointing anyway hehe (it happens 2 or 3 times again in the next seconds)
  4. 01:23:038 (1,2,3) - this rythm is not fitting that well, sounds really forced, I suggest you keep to your previous idea
  5. 01:27:725 - and 01:29:600 - moments you missed a beat, I do not recommend that since it's the easiest diff and it came out of nowhere (the pause)
  6. 01:46:006 (2,3,4) - no, not fitting again xD more forced than you think >.< I suggest you remake the rythm...the problem with that, is because you're ''saying'' that 01:46:709 - (the reverse arrow itself) is an irregular important sound, which is not the case on this map, so all of those sliders do not fit this song... :o Also, 01:47:413 - is a transition, you have to make it a clickable note, it's vital for the rythm :D
  7. 01:58:663 (3) - I like your idea :D It sacrifices a bit of the constant rythm, but it makes people actually remember that there's a song playing ;3
  8. 02:10:850 (2,3,4) - many people probably will point this due to overlap, I recommend you make a different pattern because it's the easiest diff anyway
  9. 02:19:288 (1,2) - yeah, but this one won't pass I think....i highly recommend you make it cleaner
  10. 02:25:850 (3,1) - Unrankable, you have to make it cleaner, overlaps are not allowed in low diffs, specially when it's stacked and he's not the next note
  11. 02:26:788 (1) - same slider problem, i recommend you change to a proper rythm
  12. 02:28:663 (1) - I recommend you make the spinner finish at 02:31:889 - since the beat is there and it will make the recovery time ideal. (I understand you wanted to prioritize the sound from 02:32:413 - but the fact is that he doesn't start there, he starts at 02:32:178 - So it's recommended to utilize the previous beat as I just mentioned)
  13. 02:38:506 - why pause? :(
  14. 02:41:788 (1,2) - I do not recommend that neither
  15. 02:45:538 (1) - slider issue again
  16. 03:11:788 (1) - the sliders of this section are okay since they do follow a logic because of those ''Nyan! ~'' , but there's overlaps and stacks, I highly suggest you make something more clean and polished (03:21:163 (2,1) - overlaps like this are good and okay tho! )
  17. 03:34:288 (1) - I don't think a spinner kinda matches the drums, I suggest you make it a single note and then just put a break
  18. 03:44:131 - important sound here, you should put a note :3
  19. 03:44:600 (1,2) - touchy touchy, fix xD (but if you applied previous point I mentioned you'll probably have to re-do the placements of this anyway)
  20. 03:55:850 (1,2) - overlap fix :c
  21. 04:00:538 (1,2) - and 04:02:881 (4,5) - proper blanket maybe ?
  22. 04:06:163 (2,1) - overlap fix xD
  23. 04:24:913 (3) - Ctrl + G for improved flow ?

    This diff will need quite some work, you're in a good way, but need to fix some stuff and polish more by removing unranked stuff and making a better flow/movements ^^
[Normal]
  1. 00:39:913 (3,5) - weird overlap that stands out from your structure, maybe adjust the pattern a bit?
  2. 00:44:131 (2,1) - and this one is really screaming xD adjust pattern so it doesn't happen maybe? the position is fine, just make thos ''almost stacks'' like for example 00:17:413 (1,1) - to keep consistent (if this ''almost stack'' was actually an error instead of intentional, then I suggest you just stack it already xD)
  3. 01:08:506 (2,4) - overlaps ;w;
  4. 02:38:506 (2,3,4) - maybe adjust this pattern for one of those slider + single + slider ?

    this diff seems fine, it's a bit similar to the hard but ''nerfed'', the only thing that bothers me is the amount of weird overlaps, I do understand most of them are based on the structure you've chosen, but in normals it should be less lenient with stuff like these, so I suggest make a bit more of polishing on them, you can leave the ones that you think that are ok, but the ones I mentioned are just standing out too much from your other overlaps hehe similar cases keep happening, overall it's okay


[Hard]
obs: When I mention ''touchy touchy'' patterns, the problem is basically because ''touchy touchy'' things are not overlaps, they actually give the impression you couldn't control your playfield and flow properly, so you can fix them by either just spacing a bit or by creating an actual overlap of your choice :p

  1. 00:14:600 (3,4) - Maybe make this first double an 1/4 slider ? Usually calm starts with many singletaps are more tense than what it looks, and a sudden double normally increases it's ''mental rythm difficulty'', by making this a slider you make a more ''forgivable'' beginning while giving an friendlier rythm feedback
  2. 00:26:788 (1) - I suggest you maintain your spacing >.< This sudden pause is a bit confusing i think hehe....Your style so far was full of consistency and intuitive patterns, so here's 2 reasons to change it, first is because of the sudden change of rythm choice (where now you decided to start it with a single note) and also because on this same moment you changed the DS logic too, so it plays kinda weird when you compare to the entire flow/structure you've been using so far :!: one good example to represent what I said is by looking here 01:45:069 (1,1,2,3) - where you already ''teached'' the player how he's suppose to play ''on this section' c: (btw, heads up: Pause patterns like this work best if ''paused'' right after a clap, any other sound is not recomended if not instinctive enough)
  3. 00:37:100 (5,6) - 1/4 slider again ? For similar reasons as the one mentioned earlier, the sudden change makes it a bit more confusing than what it looks like
  4. 00:43:194 (6) - I think it would be more fun to play if spaced due to the clap >.< you could even stack it on the start of 00:43:663 (1) - if you wanted (ofc, adjusting abit the DS)
  5. 01:08:741 (3,5) - all the other ''kind of overlaps'' and lack of blankets were ok since it's part of your style/strucutre and I always respect that :3 but this one is way more ''noisy'' xD I would suggest you ignore your DS a bit and make a blanket with them! It's the hardest diff anyway, it's not like increasing only 0.25x on the distance in one or 2 places would kill anyone~ specially if that's going to make the map a bit more pretty and fun to play c: don't be afraid my friend :)
  6. 01:09:444 (5,6,7) - the motion of them is too linear imo >3< in general, linear movements are tense and applies a bit of pain in your hand since you have to keep ''moving perfectly foward'', a little adjustment on the notes an the adding of a tiny angle would fit it, wadday think? o:
  7. 01:09:913 (6,9) - a bit touchy touchy, move it just a tiny bit to the side ? (or depending on what you did before it won't be necessary I guess ?)
  8. 01:17:413 (6,7,8,9) - 2 consecutive linear motions now >3< maybe placing 8 a bit more below ? on other moments linear motions are way more ok and etc, but on kiais it's usually a bit more complicated than on other moments of the map
  9. 01:23:975 (4) - move it just a bit below so the slider start doesn't get touchy touchy with 01:22:803 (1) - ?
  10. 01:32:413 (6) - NC here just for a bit more of readability ? although it's not that necessary if you don't want
  11. 01:48:819 (4,1) - As quickly mentioned before, pause patterns are not a good idea if not right after a clap or any other strong sound, this could work, but if kept consistent during entire map on all pauses, so I suggest you keep the logic from 01:45:069 (1,1,2,3) -
  12. 01:56:319 (4,1,2) - same, etc etc, pauses in moments like there are more forced than instinctive >.<
  13. 02:07:100 (5,6) - 1/4 slider? >3<
  14. 02:12:725 (3,4) - same observation as last one, but in case you refused the other option, then it's ok to refuse here too, you have to keep things consistent because of what you have done so far anyway
  15. 02:49:756 (3,4) - this shows up a bit weird on your flow, their directions do not fit entirely on everything you did so far, maybe 50° rotate with Selection Centre on 02:50:225 (4) - ?
  16. 03:26:319 (6) - change for 2 single taps with proper DS ? o: I feel like both sounds are important and strong (and apart from the others, here's coming a transition that is quite remarkable, so that would give a bit of variety i think), by making them clickable the map would be a bit more fun and variable:3
  17. 04:17:413 (5) - NC for hp boost and better readability ? there's 2 changes of DS on this section
  18. 04:40:850 (8,9) - you can use a slider here too, but here's more lenient since there's been others 1/2 clicks, so it's a bit more okay

sorry small mod xD I'm not that usefull for metadata checking and stuff since i'm not that skilled with it >.<

the map looks fun and I whish the best of luck :3 feel free to request more mods or opinions anytime if you think I was somehow usefull :P

btw, I shouldn't interfere with other people's mods/opinions, but I'm on the side that defends the mappers ideals...if you want to use overlaps and not make blanket every single note, that's your choice and no one should ever point a finger to your face without trying to understand your side. Just because they don't agree with you, it does not mean they should impose on you their thoughts~

Giving opinions and advices is really different than come and say '' 3- They look really crappy ''. So tell them to go to hell, rank this map and keep having fun :D

peace <3



PS:

Zyl wrote:

Irrelevant tags: tsundere Dog
HAHAHA this looks so funny when you don't know the reason xDD
Darcsol
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Darcsol

Seto Kousuke wrote:

[Normal]
  1. 00:39:913 (3,5) - weird overlap that stands out from your structure, maybe adjust the pattern a bit?
  2. 00:44:131 (2,1) - and this one is really screaming xD adjust pattern so it doesn't happen maybe? the position is fine, just make thos ''almost stacks'' like for example 00:17:413 (1,1) - to keep consistent (if this ''almost stack'' was actually an error instead of intentional, then I suggest you just stack it already xD)
  3. 01:08:506 (2,4) - overlaps ;w; All the above are considered.
  4. 02:38:506 (2,3,4) - maybe adjust this pattern for one of those slider + single + slider ? Made a different change instead.


[Hard]
  1. 00:14:600 (3,4) - Maybe make this first double an 1/4 slider ? Usually calm starts with many singletaps are more tense than what it looks, and a sudden double normally increases it's ''mental rythm difficulty'', by making this a slider you make a more ''forgivable'' beginning while giving an friendlier rythm feedback Considered
  2. 00:26:788 (1) - I suggest you maintain your spacing >.< This sudden pause is a bit confusing i think hehe....Your style so far was full of consistency and intuitive patterns, so here's 2 reasons to change it, first is because of the sudden change of rythm choice (where now you decided to start it with a single note) and also because on this same moment you changed the DS logic too, so it plays kinda weird when you compare to the entire flow/structure you've been using so far :!: one good example to represent what I said is by looking here 01:45:069 (1,1,2,3) - where you already ''teached'' the player how he's suppose to play ''on this section' c: (btw, heads up: Pause patterns like this work best if ''paused'' right after a clap, any other sound is not recomended if not instinctive enough) Good explanation. Will be changed.
  3. 00:37:100 (5,6) - 1/4 slider again ? For similar reasons as the one mentioned earlier, the sudden change makes it a bit more confusing than what it looks like Considered
  4. 00:43:194 (6) - I think it would be more fun to play if spaced due to the clap >.< you could even stack it on the start of 00:43:663 (1) - if you wanted (ofc, adjusting abit the DS) The note will be spaced, but not stacked on the next note.
  5. 01:08:741 (3,5) - all the other ''kind of overlaps'' and lack of blankets were ok since it's part of your style/strucutre and I always respect that :3 but this one is way more ''noisy'' xD I would suggest you ignore your DS a bit and make a blanket with them! It's the hardest diff anyway, it's not like increasing only 0.25x on the distance in one or 2 places would kill anyone~ specially if that's going to make the map a bit more pretty and fun to play c: don't be afraid my friend :) Made a different change instead.
  6. 01:09:444 (5,6,7) - the motion of them is too linear imo >3< in general, linear movements are tense and applies a bit of pain in your hand since you have to keep ''moving perfectly foward'', a little adjustment on the notes an the adding of a tiny angle would fit it, wadday think? o: Same as above
  7. 01:09:913 (6,9) - a bit touchy touchy, move it just a tiny bit to the side ? (or depending on what you did before it won't be necessary I guess ?) Same as above
  8. 01:17:413 (6,7,8,9) - 2 consecutive linear motions now >3< maybe placing 8 a bit more below ? on other moments linear motions are way more ok and etc, but on kiais it's usually a bit more complicated than on other moments of the map Fixed
  9. 01:23:975 (4) - move it just a bit below so the slider start doesn't get touchy touchy with 01:22:803 (1) - ? Made a different change instead
  10. 01:32:413 (6) - NC here just for a bit more of readability ? although it's not that necessary if you don't want Not necessary
  11. 01:48:819 (4,1) - As quickly mentioned before, pause patterns are not a good idea if not right after a clap or any other strong sound, this could work, but if kept consistent during entire map on all pauses, so I suggest you keep the logic from 01:45:069 (1,1,2,3) -
  12. 01:56:319 (4,1,2) - same, etc etc, pauses in moments like there are more forced than instinctive >.<
  13. 02:07:100 (5,6) - 1/4 slider? >3< All considered
  14. 02:12:725 (3,4) - same observation as last one, but in case you refused the other option, then it's ok to refuse here too, you have to keep things consistent because of what you have done so far anyway Will be done
  15. 02:49:756 (3,4) - this shows up a bit weird on your flow, their directions do not fit entirely on everything you did so far, maybe 50° rotate with Selection Centre on 02:50:225 (4) - ? Fixed
  16. 03:26:319 (6) - change for 2 single taps with proper DS ? o: I feel like both sounds are important and strong (and apart from the others, here's coming a transition that is quite remarkable, so that would give a bit of variety i think), by making them clickable the map would be a bit more fun and variable:3
  17. 04:17:413 (5) - NC for hp boost and better readability ? there's 2 changes of DS on this section
  18. 04:40:850 (8,9) - you can use a slider here too, but here's more lenient since there's been others 1/2 clicks, so it's a bit more okay The above are considered
Bursthammy
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Bursthammy
hi mod here

Normal:

00:14:600 (3) - Sounds pretty awkward considering the sound plays on the blue tick before it.
03:34:288 (1) - Same as hard, should end two full bars earlier.
04:11:788 (1,2) - These would probably work better with the vocals if they were sliders.


Hard:

00:50:694 (5,2) - I think this overlap may be a little confusing considering the AR
03:34:288 (1) - Definitely think this spinner should end two full bars earlier so notes can be played on the first downbeat of the vocals
03:41:553 (6,1) - I'm wonder why this jump here is so extreme compared to 03:45:538 (1,2) - where the jump distance is almost the same but with much more time in between

Good luck!
Darcsol
287 posts
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Topic Starter
Darcsol

Weber wrote:

Normal:

00:14:600 (3) - Sounds pretty awkward considering the sound plays on the blue tick before it. I think it's fine.
03:34:288 (1) - Same as hard, should end two full bars earlier. Not necessary
04:11:788 (1,2) - These would probably work better with the vocals if they were sliders. Considered


Hard:

00:50:694 (5,2) - I think this overlap may be a little confusing considering the AR Considered
03:34:288 (1) - Definitely think this spinner should end two full bars earlier so notes can be played on the first downbeat of the vocals Not necessary
03:41:553 (6,1) - I'm wonder why this jump here is so extreme compared to 03:45:538 (1,2) - where the jump distance is almost the same but with much more time in between Will be fixed
Louis Cyphre
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Joined October 2009
Louis Cyphre
[Hard]
Well, there is no nothing critical or wrong in this map, i'd say this is well mapped difficulty, nothing else. But i have some minor suggestions

01:06:163 (5) - suggesting new combo and i'd made this slider absolutely similar like next '6'
01:48:350 (3,4) - this is done too "squary", i'd suggest to use another ways of flow. (this is the only "squary part i found in the entire difficulty tho)
02:36:163 (5) - new combo?
02:39:913 (6) - ^?
02:43:663 (7) - ^ etc
03:02:413 (7) - combo goes really long, you may ignore previous mantioned, but this one you should totally fix
03:38:506 (1,2) - according to lyrics the right stack should be on these 2 notes (03:42:256 (3,4) - you made it correct here)
04:40:850 (8,9,10) - maybe you should do a full stream instead?

[Normal]

clear ~

[Easy]
00:16:006 (1) - the overlap between this and previous slider is pretty weird... (i didn't find any other such overlaps, so better to fix it)
01:10:381 (4) - reconstruct for perfect blanket


nothing else to say. Good luck ~
Darcsol
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Topic Starter
Darcsol

Louis Cyphre wrote:

[Hard]01:06:163 (5) - suggesting new combo and i'd made this slider absolutely similar like next '6' Considered on the combo, and made different changes instead.
01:48:350 (3,4) - this is done too "squary", i'd suggest to use another ways of flow. (this is the only "squary part i found in the entire difficulty tho) Will be changed
02:36:163 (5) - new combo?
02:39:913 (6) - ^?
02:43:663 (7) - ^ etc
03:02:413 (7) - combo goes really long, you may ignore previous mantioned, but this one you should totally fix All considered
03:38:506 (1,2) - according to lyrics the right stack should be on these 2 notes (03:42:256 (3,4) - you made it correct here) Fixed
04:40:850 (8,9,10) - maybe you should do a full stream instead? I think it's fine.
Saten
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Saten
omg it's alive!!!!!


I was browsing through my maps and found an update on this

I remember modding this map long time ago lel (I even have your Hard (BETA) diff :P)
Akiyama Mizuki
2,711 posts
Joined March 2009
Akiyama Mizuki
I miss [DBF]'s set with this song lol

gl for rank
ErunamoJAZZ
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ErunamoJAZZ
nice song!

but... last lovhin456 response was 4 years ago... is she care about this map?
most of work for a rank must be in Easy diff, so please, try to contact with she.

[Normal]
  1. 04:08:975 (3) - I feel this flow a bit ugly, Maybe you could make a bit curve https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6444347, or... rotating a bit 04:09:913 (5,6) - .
  2. and you will polish many blankets if you want.
[Hard]
  1. 00:55:381 (2,3) - 2 at 1.3x, and 3 at 1.1x? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6444397, 1.5x feels a bit long and music is not very intense here.
  2. 01:27:725 (3) - humm... look bad spaced, i wanna suggest it: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6444455
  3. 02:21:163 (1,2,3,4) - I feel 02:21:631 (3,4) - a bit strange... My suggestions is Ctrl+G in 02:21:163 (1,2) - and same in 02:21:631 (3,4) - , moving a bit (3,4) to keep 1.50x jumps: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6444505 (dont forget fix hitsound if you apply it)
  4. 02:25:381 (2,3,4) - Flow looks a bit strange for me, may be? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6444513 (if apply, dont forget fix spacing with (5) )
  5. 02:43:428 (6) - move a bit to make a perfect triangle with 02:42:491 (3,5) - ?? :P
  6. 02:58:194 (5,6) - humm... imo, you will keep DS in 1.1x here, and use more spacing in 02:59:366 (8) - (1.8x could be) instead.
  7. 04:40:850 (8,9) - waaaaa >_<, that was difficult to read because look similar to previous stacks (you will activate Staking in editor - last option in View menu). maybe increasing spacing to 0.6x??, idk u.u

I like this song xD

Good luck!!

NOTE to lovhin456: If you need some help, just poke me ingame or in forum pm ;)
Darcsol
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Topic Starter
Darcsol

ErunamoJAZZ wrote:

but... last lovhin456 response was 4 years ago... is she care about this map?
most of work for a rank must be in Easy diff, so please, try to contact with she. I have lovhin's permission to edit her diff. Currently she's not working on it.

[Normal]
  1. 04:08:975 (3) - I feel this flow a bit ugly, Maybe you could make a bit curve https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6444347, or... rotating a bit 04:09:913 (5,6) - . Made different edits instead.
[Hard]
  1. 00:55:381 (2,3) - 2 at 1.3x, and 3 at 1.1x? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6444397, 1.5x feels a bit long and music is not very intense here. Made different edits instead.
  2. 01:27:725 (3) - humm... look bad spaced, i wanna suggest it: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6444455 Will be fixed
  3. 02:21:163 (1,2,3,4) - I feel 02:21:631 (3,4) - a bit strange... My suggestions is Ctrl+G in 02:21:163 (1,2) - and same in 02:21:631 (3,4) - , moving a bit (3,4) to keep 1.50x jumps: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6444505 (dont forget fix hitsound if you apply it) Made different edits instead
  4. 02:25:381 (2,3,4) - Flow looks a bit strange for me, may be? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6444513 (if apply, dont forget fix spacing with (5) ) Will be fixed
  5. 02:43:428 (6) - move a bit to make a perfect triangle with 02:42:491 (3,5) - ?? :P The small jump to the next note will be more awkward to pull.
  6. 02:58:194 (5,6) - humm... imo, you will keep DS in 1.1x here, and use more spacing in 02:59:366 (8) - (1.8x could be) instead. Made different edits instead
  7. 04:40:850 (8,9) - waaaaa >_<, that was difficult to read because look similar to previous stacks (you will activate Staking in editor - last option in View menu). maybe increasing spacing to 0.6x??, idk u.u Considered
garenauser2001
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garenauser2001
sowwy .-.
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Darcsol
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Topic Starter
Darcsol

garenauser2001 wrote:

Sorry for this but i hope u will appreciate it so yea the song is preety nice too and i modded it with efficiently and here is the file :D
http://www.mediafire.com/file/017z1qub1 ... ard%5D.osu
garenauser2001
This is not how modding works. Look at https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Modding on how to mod.

Please follow proper modding format like everyone else.
Ceder
31 posts
Joined March 2015
Ceder
This is one of my first mods ever so please excuse me if anything I say here makes no sence. thanks lol

Iovhin's Easy
01:52:569 (4) - Maybe move this one to the right or left, for some flow (you can see I'm fishing for 'mistakes' here :\)
02:11:319 (3) - Move this one up a little bit so that it connects to the slider better.

Normal:
02:21:163 (1,2) - Maybe move these two down a little bit, so that the slider feels more curved ?more flow? how do is say this pls help
thats a pretty great Normal map there lol

Hard:
00:26:319 (4) - Move this one up a little bit so that it looks more symmetrical.
01:24:913 (6) - New combo here mabye?
01:32:881 (8) - ^
04:24:913 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe make these a little bit more spaced? Its a little bit too close for the finale of a map, i think
04:35:694 - Add a circle here, for the clap?



I couldn't find any big mistakes, so good luck on getting it ranked!



(from #modreqs)
Darcsol
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Darcsol

-Welsh Corgi- wrote:

Normal:
02:21:163 (1,2) - Maybe move these two down a little bit, so that the slider feels more curved ?more flow? how do is say this pls help Not sure what you're saying but made changes nonetheless.

Hard:
00:26:319 (4) - Move this one up a little bit so that it looks more symmetrical. Sure
01:24:913 (6) - New combo here mabye? Why this combo specifically?
01:32:881 (8) - ^ ^
04:24:913 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe make these a little bit more spaced? Its a little bit too close for the finale of a map, i think Considered
04:35:694 - Add a circle here, for the clap? I think it's fine.
Good job on your first mod. Next time, be more specific what you're suggesting and have more confidence. If you can't find anything wrong, move on.

Check out the osu!Wiki post on modding.
Bursthammy
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Joined May 2015
Bursthammy
i pray for this set every night
Taro-chan_old_1
Taro-chan_old_1
o/
Little Mod from little mapper to you and nice map

  • Normal:
    Kiai short than 15 seconds in:
    01:19:288
    02:49:288
    04:11:788
  • Hard:
    Same with Normal
Good luck with ranked! :D
Darcsol
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Topic Starter
Darcsol

Taro-chan wrote:

  • Normal:
    Kiai short than 15 seconds in:
    01:19:288
    02:49:288
    04:11:788
  • Hard:
    Same with Normal

    This is a stylistic choice. They should be fine.
Rad-
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Joined June 2011
Rad-
You know, i still have this mapset after 5 years and im still impressed how you never gave up and keep updating.

For that reason alone you should have this ranked already from your dedication and hard work.

Good Luck one day :)
ErunamoJAZZ
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ErunamoJAZZ

Weber wrote:

i pray for this set every night
pimp
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pimp
i want this ranked more than my own maps :(
m3gB3g
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m3gB3g
dai kirai..
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