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00.02 Hareimu: eh, do you want to practice your modding skills with me? o3o
00.02 Benny-: how
00.02 Benny-: xd
00.03 Hareimu: modding something out of fun and games, you might as well find something that I don't notice
00.03 Benny-: hm ok
00.03 Benny-: what you got in mind
00.04 Hareimu: are you used to play low diffs and the like?
00.04 *Hareimu is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1191163 NicolArmarfi - Painful History]
00.04 Hareimu: because I can't help but find this thing kinda boring to play for me
00.04 Hareimu: but I don't know if it'll be as boring for new players
00.05 Hareimu: (not saying that you're one, but I don't think you play higher difficulties more than anything)
00.05 Benny-: I never ever play low diffs
00.05 Benny-: like
00.05 Benny-: we kind of had a "competition" having most SS in norway discord
00.06 Benny-: and they said "sort by length" and go through all the maps in every mapset
00.06 Benny-: I got bored after 1 map
00.06 Benny-: gave up
00.06 Benny-: xD
00.09 Hareimu: lol
00.14 Benny-: 00:14:566 (3,4,5) - idk i don't like patterns like this, dash and hyper mixed and even so I think the hyper should be between 3,4 not 4,5
00.14 Benny-: brb gotta do something lul
00.14 Hareimu: stronger sound is at 5, not at 4
00.15 Hareimu: and I can't make a double hdash between both 3,4 and 4,5
00.15 Hareimu: so I ended up choosing to emphasize the 4,5 because the higher note was at 5
00.17 Benny-: I disagree but w/e I can't mod this lmao
00.18 Hareimu: what would you do instead?
00.18 Benny-: at least reduce the dash
00.19 Hareimu: between 3,4?
00.19 Benny-: ya
00.19 Benny-: you got a lot of those going on through the map
00.19 Benny-: might be a bit tricky
00.21 Hareimu: only at the beginning ones?
00.21 Hareimu: (00:14:566 (3,4,3,4,3,4) - )
00.21 Hareimu: are there any other ones you found?
00.22 Benny-: 00:21:439 (3,4,5) - 00:22:930 (2,3,4) - I'm not even sure theres anything wrong with it, I just wouldn't mix dashes and hypers in a platter
00.24 Hareimu: I believe it's okay, as long as they're simple to play and are not chained with more than one of them
00.24 Hareimu: like, dash, hyperdash, dash and so on
00.24 Hareimu: that's for a rain rather than for a platter
00.25 Benny-: yeah, as I said
00.26 Benny-: I'm not even sure it's an issue
00.26 Benny-: xd
00.26 Hareimu: and to be fair, there are just 17 hyperdashes on this thing
00.26 Hareimu: and it's ~70bpm, so even if it's 2:00 it feels like 4:00 instead ;_;
00.27 Benny-: xd
00.27 Benny-: 00:33:919 (3,4) - do you really need hyper here though
00.27 Benny-: feels better to leave it as a dash
00.27 Benny-: 00:34:470 (1) - would make this stand out more
00.29 Hareimu: good point
00.29 Hareimu: done o3o
00.32 Benny-: also maybe move 00:36:930 - this timing point to 00:36:900 - with 95 bpm, sounds better on my end at least xd (I'm no timing expert)
00.33 Hareimu: are you still having offset issues with your mac
00.33 Benny-: i'm not on mac dum dum
00.33 Benny-: maybe my hearing is off
00.35 Hareimu: I'll give it to you though, it sounds better at 918
00.35 Hareimu: changing it
00.35 Benny-: nice
00.38 Hareimu: done.
00.39 Benny-: 01:47:915 (5,6,7) - eee?
00.40 Benny-: why a hyper here
00.40 Benny-: it's not even a strong beat
00.40 Hareimu: because I want to at least have some hypers over that long section, you know.
00.40 Benny-: yeah but
00.40 Hareimu: if not, it would play just like the salad
00.41 Benny-: shouldn't the hyper be between 6,7 like you did here 01:57:769 (6,7,8) -
00.41 Benny-: and here 02:09:781 (2,3,4) -
00.41 Hareimu: I'll give you that much x2
00.41 Hareimu: I've already changed that anyway
00.41 Benny-: nice
00.42 Benny-: yeah other than that I can't find much
00.42 Hareimu: at that diff, anyway
00.42 Hareimu: wanna check the other two?
00.42 Benny-: and you know how bad I'm with salads
00.43 Hareimu: the cup*
00.43 Hareimu: :^)
00.45 Benny-: 00:14:566 (2,3,4) - I do get your use of dashing but two dashes in a row? maybe a bit hard for salad
00.46 Benny-: "1/2 dashes may be used in pairs, 1/3 and 1/4 dashes singularly (not in conjunction with other dashes) if the BPM is less than 120."
00.46 Hareimu: reduced a bit the distance between them, if that works for you
00.46 Hareimu: and the bpm's 70
00.46 Hareimu: come on.
00.46 Benny-: yeah
00.46 Benny-: but
00.46 Benny-: still
00.47 Benny-: it's only a guideline
00.47 Benny-: so I guess it can be broken
00.47 Hareimu: it can be broken
00.47 Hareimu: if the map plays better
00.47 Benny-: xd
00.48 Benny-: well I don't think it does considering the platter is that easy
00.48 Hareimu: why is that?
00.49 Benny-: Because the platter is easy and two dashes in a row is hard xd
00.49 Benny-: so
00.49 Benny-: meh
00.49 Benny-: whatever
00.50 Benny-: I don't know where I'm going with this
00.50 Hareimu: you're going to that I have to make the salad a bit easier to balance between the cup and the platter, I guess
00.50 Hareimu: since the platter is easy
00.50 Hareimu: the salad has to be easier
00.50 Hareimu: and the cup has to be the easiest
00.51 Benny-: well yes
00.51 Benny-: But I don't wanna be the only one to judge that
00.51 Benny-: and say you have to do that or else it's 100% wrong
00.52 Benny-: btw why do you have the breaks snapped?
00.52 Benny-: why not just leave them as they are naturally?
00.52 Hareimu: idk
00.52 Hareimu: because I have an ocd that doesn't let me see them like they're naturally? ;_;
00.53 Benny-: normally you snap breaks to a sound so it seems weird
00.53 Benny-: at least to me
00.53 Benny-: but you do you
00.53 Hareimu: nah you're right
00.57 Benny-: idk how to mod cup
00.58 Hareimu: me neither \:D/
00.58 Hareimu: well, if you want to finish here, you can /savelog this
00.58 Benny-: 00:14:786 (2,3) - this is a bit spaced maybe
00.58 Hareimu: oh
00.58 Benny-: 00:21:642 (2,3) - and here
00.59 Benny-: 00:22:502 (1,2) - maybe use same distance as this
00.59 Hareimu: nah, using 3,2x
00.59 Hareimu: I wanna emphasize the higher pitched piano keys, remember
00.59 Benny-: 00:28:504 (2,3) - welp fix all those
00.59 Benny-: yeah
00.59 Hareimu: even if it's not a dash
01.00 Hareimu: and done
01.00 Benny-: but even so 3,7 -> 3,2 is still quite a lot xd
01.00 Benny-: like
01.00 Benny-: I mean
01.00 Benny-: nerfing
01.00 Hareimu: you've got a point there xd
01.00 Benny-: big change
01.01 Hareimu: ye
01.01 Benny-: 02:25:343 (4,1) - maybe increase distance here
01.03 Hareimu: to 3,7x is okay to you? o3o
01.04 Benny-: maybe a bit much xD but it's a strong beat so I guess it works
01.05 Benny-: well that's all from me xD
01.07 Hareimu: nah it's okay, the distances between 02:24:706 (1,2,3,4,1) - all these are increasing progressively
01.08 Hareimu: is that it? alright~
00.02 Benny-: how
00.02 Benny-: xd
00.03 Hareimu: modding something out of fun and games, you might as well find something that I don't notice
00.03 Benny-: hm ok
00.03 Benny-: what you got in mind
00.04 Hareimu: are you used to play low diffs and the like?
00.04 *Hareimu is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1191163 NicolArmarfi - Painful History]
00.04 Hareimu: because I can't help but find this thing kinda boring to play for me
00.04 Hareimu: but I don't know if it'll be as boring for new players
00.05 Hareimu: (not saying that you're one, but I don't think you play higher difficulties more than anything)
00.05 Benny-: I never ever play low diffs
00.05 Benny-: like
00.05 Benny-: we kind of had a "competition" having most SS in norway discord
00.06 Benny-: and they said "sort by length" and go through all the maps in every mapset
00.06 Benny-: I got bored after 1 map
00.06 Benny-: gave up
00.06 Benny-: xD
00.09 Hareimu: lol
00.14 Benny-: 00:14:566 (3,4,5) - idk i don't like patterns like this, dash and hyper mixed and even so I think the hyper should be between 3,4 not 4,5
00.14 Benny-: brb gotta do something lul
00.14 Hareimu: stronger sound is at 5, not at 4
00.15 Hareimu: and I can't make a double hdash between both 3,4 and 4,5
00.15 Hareimu: so I ended up choosing to emphasize the 4,5 because the higher note was at 5
00.17 Benny-: I disagree but w/e I can't mod this lmao
00.18 Hareimu: what would you do instead?
00.18 Benny-: at least reduce the dash
00.19 Hareimu: between 3,4?
00.19 Benny-: ya
00.19 Benny-: you got a lot of those going on through the map
00.19 Benny-: might be a bit tricky
00.21 Hareimu: only at the beginning ones?
00.21 Hareimu: (00:14:566 (3,4,3,4,3,4) - )
00.21 Hareimu: are there any other ones you found?
00.22 Benny-: 00:21:439 (3,4,5) - 00:22:930 (2,3,4) - I'm not even sure theres anything wrong with it, I just wouldn't mix dashes and hypers in a platter
00.24 Hareimu: I believe it's okay, as long as they're simple to play and are not chained with more than one of them
00.24 Hareimu: like, dash, hyperdash, dash and so on
00.24 Hareimu: that's for a rain rather than for a platter
00.25 Benny-: yeah, as I said
00.26 Benny-: I'm not even sure it's an issue
00.26 Benny-: xd
00.26 Hareimu: and to be fair, there are just 17 hyperdashes on this thing
00.26 Hareimu: and it's ~70bpm, so even if it's 2:00 it feels like 4:00 instead ;_;
00.27 Benny-: xd
00.27 Benny-: 00:33:919 (3,4) - do you really need hyper here though
00.27 Benny-: feels better to leave it as a dash
00.27 Benny-: 00:34:470 (1) - would make this stand out more
00.29 Hareimu: good point
00.29 Hareimu: done o3o
00.32 Benny-: also maybe move 00:36:930 - this timing point to 00:36:900 - with 95 bpm, sounds better on my end at least xd (I'm no timing expert)
00.33 Hareimu: are you still having offset issues with your mac
00.33 Benny-: i'm not on mac dum dum
00.33 Benny-: maybe my hearing is off
00.35 Hareimu: I'll give it to you though, it sounds better at 918
00.35 Hareimu: changing it
00.35 Benny-: nice
00.38 Hareimu: done.
00.39 Benny-: 01:47:915 (5,6,7) - eee?
00.40 Benny-: why a hyper here
00.40 Benny-: it's not even a strong beat
00.40 Hareimu: because I want to at least have some hypers over that long section, you know.
00.40 Benny-: yeah but
00.40 Hareimu: if not, it would play just like the salad
00.41 Benny-: shouldn't the hyper be between 6,7 like you did here 01:57:769 (6,7,8) -
00.41 Benny-: and here 02:09:781 (2,3,4) -
00.41 Hareimu: I'll give you that much x2
00.41 Hareimu: I've already changed that anyway
00.41 Benny-: nice
00.42 Benny-: yeah other than that I can't find much
00.42 Hareimu: at that diff, anyway
00.42 Hareimu: wanna check the other two?
00.42 Benny-: and you know how bad I'm with salads
00.43 Hareimu: the cup*
00.43 Hareimu: :^)
00.45 Benny-: 00:14:566 (2,3,4) - I do get your use of dashing but two dashes in a row? maybe a bit hard for salad
00.46 Benny-: "1/2 dashes may be used in pairs, 1/3 and 1/4 dashes singularly (not in conjunction with other dashes) if the BPM is less than 120."
00.46 Hareimu: reduced a bit the distance between them, if that works for you
00.46 Hareimu: and the bpm's 70
00.46 Hareimu: come on.
00.46 Benny-: yeah
00.46 Benny-: but
00.46 Benny-: still
00.47 Benny-: it's only a guideline
00.47 Benny-: so I guess it can be broken
00.47 Hareimu: it can be broken
00.47 Hareimu: if the map plays better
00.47 Benny-: xd
00.48 Benny-: well I don't think it does considering the platter is that easy
00.48 Hareimu: why is that?
00.49 Benny-: Because the platter is easy and two dashes in a row is hard xd
00.49 Benny-: so
00.49 Benny-: meh
00.49 Benny-: whatever
00.50 Benny-: I don't know where I'm going with this
00.50 Hareimu: you're going to that I have to make the salad a bit easier to balance between the cup and the platter, I guess
00.50 Hareimu: since the platter is easy
00.50 Hareimu: the salad has to be easier
00.50 Hareimu: and the cup has to be the easiest
00.51 Benny-: well yes
00.51 Benny-: But I don't wanna be the only one to judge that
00.51 Benny-: and say you have to do that or else it's 100% wrong
00.52 Benny-: btw why do you have the breaks snapped?
00.52 Benny-: why not just leave them as they are naturally?
00.52 Hareimu: idk
00.52 Hareimu: because I have an ocd that doesn't let me see them like they're naturally? ;_;
00.53 Benny-: normally you snap breaks to a sound so it seems weird
00.53 Benny-: at least to me
00.53 Benny-: but you do you
00.53 Hareimu: nah you're right
00.57 Benny-: idk how to mod cup
00.58 Hareimu: me neither \:D/
00.58 Hareimu: well, if you want to finish here, you can /savelog this
00.58 Benny-: 00:14:786 (2,3) - this is a bit spaced maybe
00.58 Hareimu: oh
00.58 Benny-: 00:21:642 (2,3) - and here
00.59 Benny-: 00:22:502 (1,2) - maybe use same distance as this
00.59 Hareimu: nah, using 3,2x
00.59 Hareimu: I wanna emphasize the higher pitched piano keys, remember
00.59 Benny-: 00:28:504 (2,3) - welp fix all those
00.59 Benny-: yeah
00.59 Hareimu: even if it's not a dash
01.00 Hareimu: and done
01.00 Benny-: but even so 3,7 -> 3,2 is still quite a lot xd
01.00 Benny-: like
01.00 Benny-: I mean
01.00 Benny-: nerfing
01.00 Hareimu: you've got a point there xd
01.00 Benny-: big change
01.01 Hareimu: ye
01.01 Benny-: 02:25:343 (4,1) - maybe increase distance here
01.03 Hareimu: to 3,7x is okay to you? o3o
01.04 Benny-: maybe a bit much xD but it's a strong beat so I guess it works
01.05 Benny-: well that's all from me xD
01.07 Hareimu: nah it's okay, the distances between 02:24:706 (1,2,3,4,1) - all these are increasing progressively
01.08 Hareimu: is that it? alright~