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19:51 LMT1996: umm first off, there's a timing issue
19:51 Jonawaga: oh dang
19:51 Jonawaga: what did I do?
19:51 LMT1996: uh
19:51 LMT1996: just halve the bpm
19:51 LMT1996: and double the sv
19:51 Jonawaga: hm?
19:52 LMT1996: the bpm is in fact 89.25
19:52 Jonawaga: exaplin
19:52 Jonawaga: what
19:52 LMT1996: check the downbeats :d
19:53 Jonawaga: ono
19:53 Jonawaga: I can't really
19:53 Jonawaga: halve a 3/4 song
19:53 Jonawaga: won't I have to third it?
19:53 LMT1996: nvm
19:53 Jonawaga: idk im not good at math anymore
19:53 LMT1996: leave it like that
19:53 LMT1996: it's probably not so important
19:54 LMT1996: the ending tho
19:54 LMT1996: not precise enough
19:54 Jonawaga: hopefully owo
19:57 LMT1996: uhh
19:57 LMT1996: try
19:57 LMT1996: 02:27:432 - 150bpm
19:57 LMT1996: 02:28:632 - 142bpm
19:57 LMT1996: 02:29:899 - 132bpm
19:57 LMT1996: unless someone else timed this for you then you'll probably want to consult that person
19:58 Jonawaga: nah it was self timed
19:59 LMT1996: 00:28:105 (2,3) - spacing :d
20:01 LMT1996: 00:40:542 (2,3) - ctrl+g for rhythm and rearrange so that the sliderhead has the correct emphasis https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6880004
20:03 LMT1996: 00:58:357 (2) - sliderhead isn't really on a strong beat (and ends on a stronger beat, which is more concerning)
20:04 Jonawaga: 00:40:542 (2,3) - here you messed up the spacing
20:04 Jonawaga: should be 1.2x
20:04 LMT1996: i was just trying to get the message across
20:04 LMT1996: don't mind the placement xd
20:05 Jonawaga: I see
20:05 Jonawaga: fixed all so far
20:05 LMT1996: 00:58:357 (2,3,4) - i actually think you have to come up with a different pattern here
20:06 LMT1996: since right now that double blanket doesn't emphasise anything recognisable
20:06 LMT1996: the first 2 makes sense, but the third one should be separate
20:09 LMT1996: 01:49:786 (3,4,1) - probably want to space it evenly since that is a potential misread?
20:09 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/sZ25M/580d9aaded.jpg
20:09 Jonawaga: weird stack pattern ftw
20:09 Jonawaga: yeah
20:10 Jonawaga: fixed
20:12 LMT1996: 01:10:794 (1,2,3) - would buff the note density here a bit up
20:12 LMT1996: 01:11:802 (1,2,3,1) - so it's more fitting to this
20:13 LMT1996: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6880104
20:13 LMT1996: 01:13:819 (1,2,3,4) - seems unstructured
20:14 LMT1996: comparing with the rest of the patterns the clicking pattern is very different
20:14 LMT1996: 01:15:836 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - vs. 01:13:819 (1,2,3,4,5) - , even tho there isn't something that stands out
20:15 LMT1996: 01:16:844 (4,5,6) - this is good tho because of the violin
20:15 Jonawaga: yeah definetly
20:15 LMT1996: 01:24:575 (3) - should be another 1/2 slider because consistency
20:16 Jonawaga: idea on how to fix 01:13:819 -
20:17 LMT1996: 01:15:836 (1,2,3,4) - sth like this
20:17 LMT1996: i'll give it a try
20:19 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/sZ2EQ/d1c3cc437c.jpg
20:19 Jonawaga: this is bad cuz the reverse
20:19 LMT1996: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6880153 try mine
20:21 Jonawaga: ay yours is cool
20:21 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/sZ2MB/158ae2f574.jpg
20:21 Jonawaga: this was my other
20:21 Jonawaga: but I like yours
20:22 LMT1996: that gap is probably too inconsistent with the rest of the rhythm pattern?
20:22 LMT1996: i'm talking about your other
20:23 LMT1996: 02:19:365 (1) - that extra spacing is probably not needed
20:23 LMT1996: but that's not really important
20:24 *LMT1996 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131246 Jewel - What Child Is This? (Speed Up Ver.) [Normal]]
20:25 LMT1996: 00:11:298 (1,2,3) - why such different rhythm with 00:13:315 (4,5,6) -
20:27 Jonawaga: ok finally done with blessing wew
20:27 LMT1996: 01:19:533 (4) - 2 circles?
20:28 Jonawaga: because the piano does different things there
20:28 LMT1996: or
20:28 LMT1996: 01:18:861 (3) - this can be different
20:28 LMT1996: sec this is a bit hard
20:28 Jonawaga: at 1:18 fixed
20:29 Jonawaga: 00:11:298 (1,2,3) - this i dont get
20:29 LMT1996: so
20:29 LMT1996: the only different piano note i hear is this
20:29 LMT1996: 00:13:987 -
20:29 LMT1996: higher pitch than the previous
20:30 Jonawaga: oh
20:30 LMT1996: 00:12:307 (3) - this and 00:14:323 (5,6) - this are the same imo
20:30 LMT1996: also
20:30 LMT1996: 00:14:323 (5,6) - if these were just a slider
20:30 LMT1996: 00:14:996 (7,1) - these 2 can be more distinct
20:30 LMT1996: which is what the vocal is donig
20:30 LMT1996: doing*
20:31 LMT1996: 00:30:794 (6,7) - would make this a slider to differentiate from the rest of the notes
20:32 LMT1996: differentiate the 2 high pitch notes*
20:32 Jonawaga: I made
20:32 Jonawaga: 00:14:323 - / 00:14:659 - 1 slider
20:32 LMT1996: cool
20:33 Jonawaga: xd
20:33 Jonawaga: keep it going~
20:33 LMT1996: 01:15:836 (4,5) - 01:13:819 (1) - same as in blessing
20:34 Jonawaga: oh is is
20:34 Jonawaga: less structured?
20:35 LMT1996: yea has a completely different clicking pattern
20:35 LMT1996: kinda confusing
20:36 LMT1996: 01:49:113 (4) - nice slider but...
20:36 LMT1996: don't think lowering note density here fits the music
20:37 LMT1996: also the flow could be awkward
20:37 LMT1996: when it needs to be straightforward
20:37 Jonawaga: lol I'm still figuring out how to fix 01:14:491 (2) - this
20:37 Jonawaga: think I just got it
20:38 LMT1996: eh
20:38 LMT1996: i'd literally copy paste 01:15:836 (5,6) -
20:38 LMT1996: xd
20:38 LMT1996: you figured that out , it's good then
20:38 Jonawaga: ya and then I spend 1 minute staring at it
20:38 Jonawaga: until I realized about Ctrl+g
20:39 LMT1996:
20:39 LMT1996: i just ctrl+ j
20:39 LMT1996: or k i can't remember
20:39 Jonawaga: not even
20:39 Jonawaga: it's a literal copy/paste pattern
20:39 Jonawaga: and a minor ds change
20:40 LMT1996: yup xD
20:40 Jonawaga: 01:49:113 (4) - why do you wanna change this and not 00:56:676 (4) - this/
20:41 LMT1996: i missed it
20:41 LMT1996: xD
20:41 LMT1996: you probably want to change that too
20:41 Jonawaga: xd
20:42 *LMT1996 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131245 Jewel - What Child Is This? (Speed Up Ver.) [Easy]]
20:42 LMT1996: 00:31:466 (1,4) - um not sure why the difference
20:43 LMT1996: there is a difference, but how you make it distinguishable isn't really "emphasised" here
20:44 Jonawaga: higher pitch made me excited lol
20:44 LMT1996: yup
20:44 LMT1996: but
20:44 Jonawaga: fixed
20:44 LMT1996: nice
20:44 LMT1996: 00:31:466 (1) - tbh
20:44 LMT1996: a better thing would be
20:45 LMT1996: just a 1/1 slider + a circle on that high pitch
20:45 LMT1996: but that's probably too hard to fix
20:45 Jonawaga: i don't wanna do that anyway
20:45 LMT1996: 00:34:491 (4) - that or you can break this up to 1/1 + 1 circle for the vocals
20:45 Jonawaga: simple 1 click reverse slider of 2/1 slider makes sense to me
20:46 Jonawaga: or*
20:48 LMT1996: 01:44:071 (1,2,3,4) - you stress the second beat instead of the first but 01:47:096 (1,2,3,4) - here you stress the first beat
20:48 LMT1996: i think it should be the other way round?
20:48 LMT1996: cus instruments stress the second one while the vocals stress the first
20:49 LMT1996: 02:07:265 (4,1) - sorry for breaking that symmetry but these shouldn't have the same representative pattern as these 02:04:239 (1,2) -
20:54 LMT1996: once you're done can you update the map?
20:54 LMT1996: I'd like to see how they play
20:56 Jonawaga: fixed fixed sure
20:56 LMT1996: xD
20:56 Jonawaga: it's up
20:58 LMT1996: top diff feels a lot better now
20:59 Jonawaga: updating again I forgot a combo
20:59 Jonawaga: yeah thanks ;3
20:59 Jonawaga: now I will be able to take some credit for that
21:00 LMT1996: 00:58:693 (2,3) - this is still cancer to play tho xd
21:00 Jonawaga: Marianna's Blessing mapped by Marianna
21:00 Jonawaga: and modded by Jonawaga
21:00 Jonawaga: thi-is is
21:00 LMT1996: 01:00:374 (3) - i'd also make this clean
21:01 Jonawaga: not thi-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-s is
21:01 LMT1996: :p
21:01 LMT1996: it would be more intuitive tho
21:01 LMT1996: 00:58:861 (3) - if you stacked this to (2)
21:01 LMT1996: but that's a concept you have to use consistently
21:01 LMT1996: which this map doesn't use that
21:02 Jonawaga: yeah ><
21:02 LMT1996: so going clean there is the best option i can think of
21:02 Jonawaga: just gotta change the patterns
21:02 LMT1996: tbh i like how this diff flows
21:02 LMT1996: it's just the rhythm was weird
21:04 LMT1996: 01:14:659 (3,4) - careful xd overlapping
21:04 LMT1996: the stack ruined it lol
21:04 Jonawaga: unstacked~
21:05 *LMT1996 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131246 Jewel - What Child Is This? (Speed Up Ver.) [Normal]]
21:05 LMT1996: check your snapping
21:05 LMT1996: :V
21:05 LMT1996: actually
21:05 LMT1996: SV = 0.9 fixes it
21:06 LMT1996: shit
21:06 LMT1996: something
21:06 LMT1996: went horribly wrong
21:06 LMT1996: actually yeah 0.9 fixes most of them
21:07 LMT1996: wait wut
21:07 LMT1996: what's going on
21:08 LMT1996: the sv after the first kiai is correct
21:08 LMT1996: everything before that is unsnapped wtf
21:09 Jonawaga: did you notice the SV changes?
21:10 LMT1996: i noticed it or not
21:10 LMT1996: the sv right now is rip
21:10 Jonawaga: hm? not on my end
21:10 LMT1996: resubmit it?
21:11 LMT1996: Normal diff i'm saying
21:11 Jonawaga: ohhhh
21:12 LMT1996: yup something went horribly wrong in the normal diff
21:12 LMT1996: just resnap them i guess
21:14 Jonawaga: timing > recalc slider lenths
21:14 LMT1996: wew
21:15 Jonawaga: also fixed the cancer in belssing
21:15 LMT1996: :3
21:15 LMT1996: nice
21:16 LMT1996: that's probably it from it
19:51 Jonawaga: oh dang
19:51 Jonawaga: what did I do?
19:51 LMT1996: uh
19:51 LMT1996: just halve the bpm
19:51 LMT1996: and double the sv
19:51 Jonawaga: hm?
19:52 LMT1996: the bpm is in fact 89.25
19:52 Jonawaga: exaplin
19:52 Jonawaga: what
19:52 LMT1996: check the downbeats :d
19:53 Jonawaga: ono
19:53 Jonawaga: I can't really
19:53 Jonawaga: halve a 3/4 song
19:53 Jonawaga: won't I have to third it?
19:53 LMT1996: nvm
19:53 Jonawaga: idk im not good at math anymore
19:53 LMT1996: leave it like that
19:53 LMT1996: it's probably not so important
19:54 LMT1996: the ending tho
19:54 LMT1996: not precise enough
19:54 Jonawaga: hopefully owo
19:57 LMT1996: uhh
19:57 LMT1996: try
19:57 LMT1996: 02:27:432 - 150bpm
19:57 LMT1996: 02:28:632 - 142bpm
19:57 LMT1996: 02:29:899 - 132bpm
19:57 LMT1996: unless someone else timed this for you then you'll probably want to consult that person
19:58 Jonawaga: nah it was self timed
19:59 LMT1996: 00:28:105 (2,3) - spacing :d
20:01 LMT1996: 00:40:542 (2,3) - ctrl+g for rhythm and rearrange so that the sliderhead has the correct emphasis https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6880004
20:03 LMT1996: 00:58:357 (2) - sliderhead isn't really on a strong beat (and ends on a stronger beat, which is more concerning)
20:04 Jonawaga: 00:40:542 (2,3) - here you messed up the spacing
20:04 Jonawaga: should be 1.2x
20:04 LMT1996: i was just trying to get the message across
20:04 LMT1996: don't mind the placement xd
20:05 Jonawaga: I see
20:05 Jonawaga: fixed all so far
20:05 LMT1996: 00:58:357 (2,3,4) - i actually think you have to come up with a different pattern here
20:06 LMT1996: since right now that double blanket doesn't emphasise anything recognisable
20:06 LMT1996: the first 2 makes sense, but the third one should be separate
20:09 LMT1996: 01:49:786 (3,4,1) - probably want to space it evenly since that is a potential misread?
20:09 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/sZ25M/580d9aaded.jpg
20:09 Jonawaga: weird stack pattern ftw
20:09 Jonawaga: yeah
20:10 Jonawaga: fixed
20:12 LMT1996: 01:10:794 (1,2,3) - would buff the note density here a bit up
20:12 LMT1996: 01:11:802 (1,2,3,1) - so it's more fitting to this
20:13 LMT1996: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6880104
20:13 LMT1996: 01:13:819 (1,2,3,4) - seems unstructured
20:14 LMT1996: comparing with the rest of the patterns the clicking pattern is very different
20:14 LMT1996: 01:15:836 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - vs. 01:13:819 (1,2,3,4,5) - , even tho there isn't something that stands out
20:15 LMT1996: 01:16:844 (4,5,6) - this is good tho because of the violin
20:15 Jonawaga: yeah definetly
20:15 LMT1996: 01:24:575 (3) - should be another 1/2 slider because consistency
20:16 Jonawaga: idea on how to fix 01:13:819 -
20:17 LMT1996: 01:15:836 (1,2,3,4) - sth like this
20:17 LMT1996: i'll give it a try
20:19 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/sZ2EQ/d1c3cc437c.jpg
20:19 Jonawaga: this is bad cuz the reverse
20:19 LMT1996: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6880153 try mine
20:21 Jonawaga: ay yours is cool
20:21 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/sZ2MB/158ae2f574.jpg
20:21 Jonawaga: this was my other
20:21 Jonawaga: but I like yours
20:22 LMT1996: that gap is probably too inconsistent with the rest of the rhythm pattern?
20:22 LMT1996: i'm talking about your other
20:23 LMT1996: 02:19:365 (1) - that extra spacing is probably not needed
20:23 LMT1996: but that's not really important
20:24 *LMT1996 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131246 Jewel - What Child Is This? (Speed Up Ver.) [Normal]]
20:25 LMT1996: 00:11:298 (1,2,3) - why such different rhythm with 00:13:315 (4,5,6) -
20:27 Jonawaga: ok finally done with blessing wew
20:27 LMT1996: 01:19:533 (4) - 2 circles?
20:28 Jonawaga: because the piano does different things there
20:28 LMT1996: or
20:28 LMT1996: 01:18:861 (3) - this can be different
20:28 LMT1996: sec this is a bit hard
20:28 Jonawaga: at 1:18 fixed
20:29 Jonawaga: 00:11:298 (1,2,3) - this i dont get
20:29 LMT1996: so
20:29 LMT1996: the only different piano note i hear is this
20:29 LMT1996: 00:13:987 -
20:29 LMT1996: higher pitch than the previous
20:30 Jonawaga: oh
20:30 LMT1996: 00:12:307 (3) - this and 00:14:323 (5,6) - this are the same imo
20:30 LMT1996: also
20:30 LMT1996: 00:14:323 (5,6) - if these were just a slider
20:30 LMT1996: 00:14:996 (7,1) - these 2 can be more distinct
20:30 LMT1996: which is what the vocal is donig
20:30 LMT1996: doing*
20:31 LMT1996: 00:30:794 (6,7) - would make this a slider to differentiate from the rest of the notes
20:32 LMT1996: differentiate the 2 high pitch notes*
20:32 Jonawaga: I made
20:32 Jonawaga: 00:14:323 - / 00:14:659 - 1 slider
20:32 LMT1996: cool
20:33 Jonawaga: xd
20:33 Jonawaga: keep it going~
20:33 LMT1996: 01:15:836 (4,5) - 01:13:819 (1) - same as in blessing
20:34 Jonawaga: oh is is
20:34 Jonawaga: less structured?
20:35 LMT1996: yea has a completely different clicking pattern
20:35 LMT1996: kinda confusing
20:36 LMT1996: 01:49:113 (4) - nice slider but...
20:36 LMT1996: don't think lowering note density here fits the music
20:37 LMT1996: also the flow could be awkward
20:37 LMT1996: when it needs to be straightforward
20:37 Jonawaga: lol I'm still figuring out how to fix 01:14:491 (2) - this
20:37 Jonawaga: think I just got it
20:38 LMT1996: eh
20:38 LMT1996: i'd literally copy paste 01:15:836 (5,6) -
20:38 LMT1996: xd
20:38 LMT1996: you figured that out , it's good then
20:38 Jonawaga: ya and then I spend 1 minute staring at it
20:38 Jonawaga: until I realized about Ctrl+g
20:39 LMT1996:
20:39 LMT1996: i just ctrl+ j
20:39 LMT1996: or k i can't remember
20:39 Jonawaga: not even
20:39 Jonawaga: it's a literal copy/paste pattern
20:39 Jonawaga: and a minor ds change
20:40 LMT1996: yup xD
20:40 Jonawaga: 01:49:113 (4) - why do you wanna change this and not 00:56:676 (4) - this/
20:41 LMT1996: i missed it
20:41 LMT1996: xD
20:41 LMT1996: you probably want to change that too
20:41 Jonawaga: xd
20:42 *LMT1996 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131245 Jewel - What Child Is This? (Speed Up Ver.) [Easy]]
20:42 LMT1996: 00:31:466 (1,4) - um not sure why the difference
20:43 LMT1996: there is a difference, but how you make it distinguishable isn't really "emphasised" here
20:44 Jonawaga: higher pitch made me excited lol
20:44 LMT1996: yup
20:44 LMT1996: but
20:44 Jonawaga: fixed
20:44 LMT1996: nice
20:44 LMT1996: 00:31:466 (1) - tbh
20:44 LMT1996: a better thing would be
20:45 LMT1996: just a 1/1 slider + a circle on that high pitch
20:45 LMT1996: but that's probably too hard to fix
20:45 Jonawaga: i don't wanna do that anyway
20:45 LMT1996: 00:34:491 (4) - that or you can break this up to 1/1 + 1 circle for the vocals
20:45 Jonawaga: simple 1 click reverse slider of 2/1 slider makes sense to me
20:46 Jonawaga: or*
20:48 LMT1996: 01:44:071 (1,2,3,4) - you stress the second beat instead of the first but 01:47:096 (1,2,3,4) - here you stress the first beat
20:48 LMT1996: i think it should be the other way round?
20:48 LMT1996: cus instruments stress the second one while the vocals stress the first
20:49 LMT1996: 02:07:265 (4,1) - sorry for breaking that symmetry but these shouldn't have the same representative pattern as these 02:04:239 (1,2) -
20:54 LMT1996: once you're done can you update the map?
20:54 LMT1996: I'd like to see how they play
20:56 Jonawaga: fixed fixed sure
20:56 LMT1996: xD
20:56 Jonawaga: it's up
20:58 LMT1996: top diff feels a lot better now
20:59 Jonawaga: updating again I forgot a combo
20:59 Jonawaga: yeah thanks ;3
20:59 Jonawaga: now I will be able to take some credit for that
21:00 LMT1996: 00:58:693 (2,3) - this is still cancer to play tho xd
21:00 Jonawaga: Marianna's Blessing mapped by Marianna
21:00 Jonawaga: and modded by Jonawaga
21:00 Jonawaga: thi-is is
21:00 LMT1996: 01:00:374 (3) - i'd also make this clean
21:01 Jonawaga: not thi-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-s is
21:01 LMT1996: :p
21:01 LMT1996: it would be more intuitive tho
21:01 LMT1996: 00:58:861 (3) - if you stacked this to (2)
21:01 LMT1996: but that's a concept you have to use consistently
21:01 LMT1996: which this map doesn't use that
21:02 Jonawaga: yeah ><
21:02 LMT1996: so going clean there is the best option i can think of
21:02 Jonawaga: just gotta change the patterns
21:02 LMT1996: tbh i like how this diff flows
21:02 LMT1996: it's just the rhythm was weird
21:04 LMT1996: 01:14:659 (3,4) - careful xd overlapping
21:04 LMT1996: the stack ruined it lol
21:04 Jonawaga: unstacked~
21:05 *LMT1996 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131246 Jewel - What Child Is This? (Speed Up Ver.) [Normal]]
21:05 LMT1996: check your snapping
21:05 LMT1996: :V
21:05 LMT1996: actually
21:05 LMT1996: SV = 0.9 fixes it
21:06 LMT1996: shit
21:06 LMT1996: something
21:06 LMT1996: went horribly wrong
21:06 LMT1996: actually yeah 0.9 fixes most of them
21:07 LMT1996: wait wut
21:07 LMT1996: what's going on
21:08 LMT1996: the sv after the first kiai is correct
21:08 LMT1996: everything before that is unsnapped wtf
21:09 Jonawaga: did you notice the SV changes?
21:10 LMT1996: i noticed it or not
21:10 LMT1996: the sv right now is rip
21:10 Jonawaga: hm? not on my end
21:10 LMT1996: resubmit it?
21:11 LMT1996: Normal diff i'm saying
21:11 Jonawaga: ohhhh
21:12 LMT1996: yup something went horribly wrong in the normal diff
21:12 LMT1996: just resnap them i guess
21:14 Jonawaga: timing > recalc slider lenths
21:14 LMT1996: wew
21:15 Jonawaga: also fixed the cancer in belssing
21:15 LMT1996: :3
21:15 LMT1996: nice
21:16 LMT1996: that's probably it from it
