_Void_ wrote:

@mikhe: I don't think you cheated, but since you asked about the livestream/showing yourself issue, I suggest you do a livestream with picture in picture - a screencapturing program recoding osu! and a small inserted video of your camera filming just your hands. That way you wouldn't have to show yourself again, but the whiners would HAVE to accept that...

CXu wrote:

You asked for:

Kohzuki wrote:

when you will play it please i want to see your face on video - i want to see how you look on the centar of your scren.

He delivered.
Oh, and his head is quite up to the top-left, which would mean that to make his face show in the video, he had to put the camera that way, and I can't see how he could've included keyboards too. You demanded his face to be shown, and now you bitch about this... really...

And so what if the beginning and end was cut? Is that the part where he played the map? nope.
Now, while there is still doubt about this, everyone is innocent until something else has been proven. I think people here got it wrong: He DO NOT NEED TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE, it's YOU THAT NEED TO PROVE HE'S CHEATING if you want to continue this. Thank you.

Just wanted to say that, lol.

CXu wrote:

He DO NOT NEED TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE, it's YOU THAT NEED TO PROVE HE'S CHEATING

Shockwave wrote:

CXu wrote:

He DO NOT NEED TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE, it's YOU THAT NEED TO PROVE HE'S CHEATING

The fucking truth

mikhe, relax and enjoy your life. Don't be angry for this, it's just a stupid accusation.

Avatare wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=46969&m=1
Taiko

1st place. he plays with no mods and apparently he thinks there are more than 246 notes on this song.

ban the f*cker

KRZY wrote:

After viewing a few replays recommended by Louis Cyphre and actually trying a few maps, my stance changes. I demand a video from mikhe.

Avatare wrote:

e-hooker , im all relaxed ...

Shockwave wrote:

CXu wrote:

He DO NOT NEED TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE, it's YOU THAT NEED TO PROVE HE'S CHEATING

The fucking truth

mikhe, relax and enjoy your life. Don't be angry for this, it's just a stupid accusation.

CXu wrote:

You asked for:

Kohzuki wrote:

when you will play it please i want to see your face on video - i want to see how you look on the centar of your scren.

He delivered.
Oh, and his head is quite up to the top-left, which would mean that to make his face show in the video, he had to put the camera that way, and I can't see how he could've included keyboards too. You demanded his face to be shown, and now you bitch about this... really...

And so what if the beginning and end was cut? Is that the part where he played the map? nope.
Now, while there is still doubt about this, everyone is innocent until something else has been proven. I think people here got it wrong: He DO NOT NEED TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE, it's YOU THAT NEED TO PROVE HE'S CHEATING if you want to continue this. Thank you.

Just wanted to say that, lol.

lncognito wrote:

сам говорил что бы я не парился о спинхакерах и тут такой столб текста, и ты кстати забыл Tenshu и Karaxu хватит их уже защищать,рас делаешь литс то хотябы внеси тех кто действительно читерит

cheukhin1985 wrote:

lncognito wrote:

сам говорил что бы я не парился о спинхакерах и тут такой столб текста, и ты кстати забыл Tenshu и Karaxu хватит их уже защищать,рас делаешь литс то хотябы внеси тех кто действительно читерит

No one knows what you are talking about rofl
Plus, that spinning is really unusual, so I agree with Mizu.
That is 90% a spinner hack.

cheukhin1985 wrote:

No one knows what you are talking about rofl
Plus, that spinning is really unusual, so I agree with Mizu.
That is 90% a spinner hack.

lncognito wrote:

try useing a translator if you really want to know ,and if you think that the spins are unusual i can make a video as soon as i get a better camera ,the one i tryd ealyer was bad quality and you cant see shit on it.

Gomo Psivarh wrote:

Mizu wrote:

Name: Gomo_Psivarh http://osu.ppy.sh/u/219057
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/64555 #2 LESS 30 PLAYS?!
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/41140 #1 38 plays - Masayoshi Minoshima ft. nomico - Bad Apple!! [Normal] LOL?!
and many more.
Play Count: 2,271
Diagnosis: FLHACKER

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=41856
You can fc any map in 1 play
I use this method half a year ago. My net connection sucks so I have to play offline to avoid those damn disconnection lags.

Kohzuki wrote:

MrSake wrote:

I hope I'm wrong, but the video seemed edited. First cut is at 0:04 where you can see how the camera angle moves a little when the song is about to start. Same happens also 1:28 at the end of the song. It seems like the playing part is from different video than the beginning and the ending.

:/

Thank you friend. I just watched it and you are right. it is a video montage. YOU ARE LIAR AS I SAID.
Now you believe me people???

Kohzuki wrote:

Thank you friend. I just watched it and you are right. it is a video montage. YOU ARE LIAR AS I SAID.
Now you believe me people???

Mizu wrote:

It's funny, really.

21:45 <Gomo_Psivarh> : i always play maps offline :D
21:46 <Gomo_Psivarh> : so my play count is very low
21:46 <Nivalis> : i practice hard maps offline, and I only play online if I want to FC something/modding a map
21:46 <Nivalis> : good luck SS-ing no thank you xD
21:47 <Gomo_Psivarh> : thx :D
21:47 <Gomo_Psivarh> : even i wanna submit my score i still play offline:D
21:48 <Gomo_Psivarh> : u play offline, and when u finish it, u go online immediately
21:49 <Gomo_Psivarh> : the score will be uploaded, and count only 1 play count, no matter how many times you retried XD
21:49 <Nivalis> : yes :D
21:49 <Nivalis> : play offline, FC until last spinner, pause, turn on internet, unpause, submit score xD
21:49 <Gomo_Psivarh> : yeah XD

Krzysiek wrote:

(Huge wall of text) - Excluding 1-6

Kohzuki wrote:

mikhe is afc as he said,and now of course he can't make another live video with 'not walking camera',yeah? well he doesn't want to play because he is scared that someone will ask him another video. wise choice to go afc.

Kohzuki wrote:

I make some strong arguments

Kohzuki wrote:

I don't want to continue this discussion anymore because of some crap talking idiots.

Nivalis wrote:

Gomo Psivarh isn't a cheater >.<
Yesterday he chatted with me via in-game PM, and he said this:

21:45 <Gomo_Psivarh> : i always play maps offline :D
21:46 <Gomo_Psivarh> : so my play count is very low
21:46 <Nivalis> : i practice hard maps offline, and I only play online if I want to FC something/modding a map
21:46 <Nivalis> : good luck SS-ing no thank you xD
21:47 <Gomo_Psivarh> : thx :D
21:47 <Gomo_Psivarh> : even i wanna submit my score i still play offline:D
21:48 <Gomo_Psivarh> : u play offline, and when u finish it, u go online immediately
21:49 <Gomo_Psivarh> : the score will be uploaded, and count only 1 play count, no matter how many times you retried XD
21:49 <Nivalis> : yes :D
21:49 <Nivalis> : play offline, FC until last spinner, pause, turn on internet, unpause, submit score xD
21:49 <Gomo_Psivarh> : yeah XD

No wonder his playcount is very low
He is just a great FL player.

Glass wrote:

Nivalis wrote:

Gomo Psivarh isn't a cheater >.<
Yesterday he chatted with me via in-game PM, and he said this:

21:45 <Gomo_Psivarh> : i always play maps offline :D
21:46 <Gomo_Psivarh> : so my play count is very low
21:46 <Nivalis> : i practice hard maps offline, and I only play online if I want to FC something/modding a map
21:46 <Nivalis> : good luck SS-ing no thank you xD
21:47 <Gomo_Psivarh> : thx :D
21:47 <Gomo_Psivarh> : even i wanna submit my score i still play offline:D
21:48 <Gomo_Psivarh> : u play offline, and when u finish it, u go online immediately
21:49 <Gomo_Psivarh> : the score will be uploaded, and count only 1 play count, no matter how many times you retried XD
21:49 <Nivalis> : yes :D
21:49 <Nivalis> : play offline, FC until last spinner, pause, turn on internet, unpause, submit score xD
21:49 <Gomo_Psivarh> : yeah XD

No wonder his playcount is very low
He is just a great FL player.

Sounds like the whole typical "I've been playing offline/spun out the whole time" excuse.

Also, there is no ending spinner on that NO, Thank You! map, you can't have possibly re-enabled your Internet connection manually there.

I don't get why people make so much of a big deal about their playcounts and pull stunts like this, what does it really do other than create suspicion?

kakarottz wrote:

I really want to see Louis Cyphre recording a video with a gameplay of this map: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=25580&m=2
It's harder than mikhe's song.

-maJu wrote:

kakarottz wrote:

I really want to see Louis Cyphre recording a video with a gameplay of this map: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=25580&m=2
It's harder than mikhe's song.

man, this is possible in FL because lot of parts are same and he needed a lot of tries..

Gomo Psivarh wrote:

A ending spinner is not necessary, just connect to internet before the score screen displayed.

Almost all of my replays have a same action:
After I hit the last note I move the cursor right out of the window and move the cursor back. It indicates when I connect to internet.

Even you have left the score screen and back to the song select screen, you may still be able to upload your replay.
NO, Thank You is a big miss since I hadn't noticed as said above.
My goal is SS it. I practised offline and after a play with 3X100s I connect the net, but I found my replay was uploaded!!
Then Aenna noticed his lost of #1 and get it back before I SS it. I lost.

kakarottz wrote:

Little report: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/471491
Since August and #12 of world?
All scores are Hidden-SS.
I think it's suspicious.

mikhe wrote:

kakarottz wrote:

Little report: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/471491
Since August and #12 of world?
All scores are Hidden-SS.
I think it's suspicious.

But i saw him play into Multiplayer, and he did SS too.
I think very good player, no more.

P.S: I got #1 in only 1 month when i started CtB (was 7Bill), then is possible i think.

Silver Flash wrote:

A long time ago I have an account, but for some reason have forgotten the password, so I registered a new account.
old ID:Klose Bright.
If you still do not believe that I can record a video.

kakarottz wrote:

Silver Flash wrote:

A long time ago I have an account, but for some reason have forgotten the password, so I registered a new account.
old ID:Klose Bright.
If you still do not believe that I can record a video.

I want to see.

wuliang wrote:

His veido
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjMxODY0NTQ4.html
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=79614&m=2
If you can't see, to find the time I uploaded to youtube or elsewhere

Dikobrazkaaa wrote:

It's really good excuse. I'm think that you should make video. It will solve all, because:

pieguy1372 wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1145 #1

Looks like some kinda spin hacker.

Pimpi88 wrote:

PS: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=261&m=2 why the first place guy in the list is first if he has a C and with HR + HD?
That score doesn't look right to me

Pimpi88 wrote:

PS: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=261&m=2 why the first place guy in the list is first if he has a C and with HR + HD?
That score doesn't look right to me

Pimpi88 wrote:

PS: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=261&m=2 why the first place guy in the list is first if he has a C and with HR + HD?
That score doesn't look right to me

Why people are accusing mikhe?

he is not cheating, because what he made is possible

Kohzuki is only jealous that mikhe is first and he don't

This is really stupid. He is accusing and don't have proofs

Most of people in this thread are with mikhe because they know him and know that he is not cheater ok?

Next time people want to accuse someone, has to show some proof before posting

TL;DR version:
Cookiezi provided video with decisive proof, mikhe didn't. I like Cookiezi action and don't like mikhe's. I'm aware it's not enough to provide 100% sure answer whether mikhe cheated or not.

Same as "Why ppl are accusing Cookiezi?". It's because their skill break the limits. They awesome x-D.

I don't agree with that statement as it is. There weren't single case where ppl hacked CtB's allowed movement speed, yet there were cheaters.

I wouldn't be jumping to conclusions.

Some ppl (me included) simply hate cheating (it ruins the competition).

About the ctb stuff you all say to me

Pimpi88 wrote:

Idk, but that ctb spinner fruit thing seems noonsense for me because it no matter if you have 3 or 4 mods because if a person have 2, 1 or 0 mods and if he grab a lot of the spinner fruits that then it will achieve a better score than the better 3 - 4 mod achieve.
This doesn't make sense to me but the game was created that way I will try to see this by myself.

KRZY wrote:

Heh, I think it's good time we drop the mikhe case now. Shit happens, but we should know to move on.

Dean wrote:

It's basically like this:
In Catch the Beat, there are four types of fruits: the normal kind, large fruit drops, small fruit drops and spinner fruits. Normal, large and small fruit drops all affect accuracy the same amount, however small missing a small fruit drop will not break combo and catching one will not increase combo. On top of this, they are worth a mere 10 points, meaning a lot of players will not bother to catch them.

This is how players with lower accuracy can still Full Combo a map, and beat players with higher accuracy. Spinners are the primary way to seperate players who have both FCed a map (unlike standard osu!, in which it's accuracy), as a spinner fruit is worth 1,100 points - it takes 110 small fruit drops to equal a spinner fruit. Darksoul is #1 on that map because he caught every fruit important to maintaining combo (but dropping a lot of small fruit drops), and used the highest mods of everyone who has FCed that map (Hid + HR > Hid + DT). His 'C' ranking means he got 85%-90% accuracy (letter rankings are based purely on accuracy in CtB).

mekadon wrote:

TKiller wrote:

Bikko has a touchscreen and that has already been discussed a lot of times.

Tenshi-nyan wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/61332&m=0

The top score, Bikko O_o

someone explain me how that's possible.

Keksi wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/281218

New one.

Orkel wrote:

Spin hack?

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/19355

Kaxaru's replay on easy diff. Especially visible in the longer spinners. And every spinner is identically spinned at max speed.

Orkel wrote:

Moderators are too slow in killing off hackers. They should be removed immediately when spotted and not let run rampant for weeks!

Lunah wrote:

Orkel wrote:

Moderators are too slow in killing off hackers. They should be removed immediately when spotted and not let run rampant for weeks!

Slow ? they don't kill, this is the problem , no one care this topic, and we play with cheaters..

Lunah wrote:

Orkel wrote:

Moderators are too slow in killing off hackers. They should be removed immediately when spotted and not let run rampant for weeks!

Slow ? they don't kill, this is the problem , no one care this topic, and we play with cheaters..

Gomo Psivarh wrote:

I think peppy can create a replay check team and give the team members the power to ban those obvious hackers like spinner hack, score hack, auto pilot,etc.

Gomo Psivarh wrote:

I think peppy can create a replay check team and give the team members the power to ban those obvious hackers like spinner hack, score hack, auto pilot,etc.

kaouji wrote:

Gomo Psivarh wrote:

I think peppy can create a replay check team and give the team members the power to ban those obvious hackers like spinner hack, score hack, auto pilot,etc.

i have told ppy about this idea long long time ago.

Hakeru Prismriver wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/15225&m=0
Easy diff

#10

spin hack ? check it

Orkel wrote:

Clearly a spin hack. Sent PM to peppy, although I feel he's ignoring them. I'll keep messaging him about hackers though because he should care about his own community, right?

Right?

Wuiss wrote:

I think he has some reasons?

Orkel wrote:

Spin hack?

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/19355

Kaxaru's replay on easy diff. Especially visible in the longer spinners. And every spinner is identically spinned at max speed.

Lunah wrote:

I did too, he said me no

Lunah wrote:

Same cheater that i reported for Shounen A


http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1147 Marisa wa taihen #1


http://osu.ppy.sh/u/599071

27 plays - IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita [Hard]

Lunah wrote:

Same cheater that i reported for Shounen A


http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1147 Marisa wa taihen #1


http://osu.ppy.sh/u/599071

27 plays - IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita [Hard]

Lunah wrote:

Same cheater that i reported for Shounen A


http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1147 Marisa wa taihen #1


http://osu.ppy.sh/u/599071

27 plays - IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita [Hard]

SilentWings wrote:

I asked xierbaliti to do a scan for me and it appears that EX7 have like 20 multi accounts. None of the names are well known.
However, if you watch the replay, it looks legit. Even if he did a hack that removed hidden + flashlight, it would be difficulty to fc marisa on hardrock. Only possible explanation is that he is a macro user.

Orkel wrote:

Tororu:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/78965

#1 on easy, spin hacking visible

He was reported in this thread a long time ago. Guess what? NOTHING WAS DONE. Good job, letting cheaters run rampant. I hate this system.

Orkel wrote:

His spinning is perfectly stable and at maximum speed, and always at exactly the same size, basically his spins are 100% identical in every replay of his.

Lunah wrote:

SilentWings wrote:

I asked xierbaliti to do a scan for me and it appears that EX7 have like 20 multi accounts. None of the names are well known.
However, if you watch the replay, it looks legit. Even if he did a hack that removed hidden + flashlight, it would be difficulty to fc marisa on hardrock. Only possible explanation is that he is a macro user.

viewtopic.php?p=640075#p640075 , yeah


btw he cheats, no one can Shounen A or Marisa so easy

kaouji wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/ex380666
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/44365

do you believe it?

KRZY wrote:

viewtopic.php?p=640075#p640075 , yeah


btw he cheats, no one can Shounen A or Marisa so easy



Not if you've been practicing a long time.

How long do you give Cookiezi until he HD FLs Shounen A? Rucker? ReimuSS? XD

EX7 probably isn't a cheater, but a multi-account. Why a certain "pro user' would use a proxied multi-account to set records when he could have with his own account, I have no idea. Why his replays show a lot of 100s in normal notes but all 300s in streams, I also havce no idea (take a look at the Shounen A replay if you don't know what I mean.) But I do want him off the scoreboard.

But then of course, he could be using this super-human-resembling hack program to fool us all. Who knows

Lunah wrote:

KRZY wrote:

viewtopic.php?p=640075#p640075 , yeah


btw he cheats, no one can Shounen A or Marisa so easy



Not if you've been practicing a long time.

How long do you give Cookiezi until he HD FLs Shounen A? Rucker? ReimuSS? XD

EX7 probably isn't a cheater, but a multi-account. Why a certain "pro user' would use a proxied multi-account to set records when he could have with his own account, I have no idea. Why his replays show a lot of 100s in normal notes but all 300s in streams, I also havce no idea (take a look at the Shounen A replay if you don't know what I mean.) But I do want him off the scoreboard.

But then of course, he could be using this super-human-resembling hack program to fool us all. Who knows

he is still a multiaccount, for a reason or another he should be banned, btw he FC'ed Marisa HR+FL+HD, or he is cookiezi or he cheats. cookiezi has no multiaccounts and the guy is from china, so he is a cheater obv

kaxaru wrote:

Orkel wrote:

His spinning is perfectly stable and at maximum speed, and always at exactly the same size, basically his spins are 100% identical in every replay of his.

oh lol,maximum speed...o'rly?
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/60709&m=0