sorry somehow i missed this.sebaex wrote:
Hey, a mod just passing here:
General: I listened the original song and the keysounded one and I feel the vocals.mp3 file is quieter than the rest of the sounds, actually I listen more the instrument than the voice
Just that, the diffs, I see, are too modded c:
I tried fixing the timing according to what you said, I am not sure if I did it right.Maxus wrote:
I will post my concern about timing first.
Some of them didn't synchronize with the piano well.
Mostly about the timing at 00:14:000 - , 03:15:000 - , and 03:36:921 - .
it should be:
00:14:000 - BPM 95.00
00:14:315 - BPM 80.00
00:14:690 - BPM 69.00
00:15:994 - BPM 79.00
00:16:753 - BPM 69.00
03:15:000 - BPM 120.00
03:15:500 - BPM 100.00
03:15:800 - BPM 85.00
03:16:152 - BPM 75.00
03:36:921 - BPM 92.00
That should be all I think. Don't forget to normalize the BPM.
Will mod this later.
Update, @dudehacker, dw, the red timing is same with yours, but the SV is not.Maxus wrote:
I will post my concern about timing first.
Some of them didn't synchronize with the piano well.
Mostly about the timing at 00:14:000 - , 03:15:000 - , and 03:36:921 - .
it should be:
00:14:000 - BPM 95.00
00:14:315 - BPM 80.00
00:14:690 - BPM 69.00
00:15:994 - BPM 79.00
00:16:753 - BPM 69.00
03:15:000 - BPM 120.00
03:15:500 - BPM 100.00
03:15:800 - BPM 85.00
03:16:152 - BPM 75.00
03:36:921 - BPM 92.00
That should be all I think. Don't forget to normalize the BPM.
Will mod this later.
"Dont forget to normalize the BPM" , what's the point of changing bpm but normalize it back again
Why changing bpm per note, it means the previous bpm cant be use for next note, example : 3 New bpm for 3 note. 00:14:000 - 00:14:690 -
Finally, the furthest differences is just around 3ms at the most. Like the previous 3 bpm change,
example : my 120bpm 00:16:750 - , with your 00:16:753 - 69bpm with normalize.
i'm not against it, i was like..., why all the trouble???? in the end, you just give me more work to do.
if you want a gradually slower effect, you can suggest lower SV, and the value.
im replying this, thinking about all the trouble and the changes has to be made all across the difficulty
as my difficulty do not normalize the BPM into 150 'all of the time', arghhh well... whatever, i just have to deal with it.
03:36:921 - BPM 92.00
this one is effective. without changing any snap for other note.
but still, you give me more work on my difficulty to adjust the surroundings SV.
(so.. a change like this, doesn't even effect anything, just a fancy "1 more new timing point"
with more green timing point that i must add)
you can check it without update my difficulty.
i'm sorry to reply like this
i just want to let you know this, it might help you in your future modding.
(since this mp3 is custom and we map it base on our custom)
So in the end, i appreciate all the trouble and i will deal with more and more things to add on my own difficulty.
(since dudehacker already made change, i dont want more changes for other difficulty)
Oh ya, There's also 2 map that already got DQ because of those timing issues, p/6008604/ and t/472500/start=150 .LordRaika wrote:
Dont forget to normalize the BPM" , what's the point of changing bpm but normalize it back again
This statement does not making sense, you yourself also normalize BPM http://puu.sh/vNIOA/4dad546129.png , so i don't see your point here.
Why changing bpm per note, it means the previous bpm cant be use for next note, example : 3 New bpm for 3 note. 00:14:000 - 00:14:690 -
Because the current one Is not rankable. the notes have to synchronize with the beat according to Ranking criteria. https://puu.sh/vNICD/5da98c4590.png I thought you already knew since you are ex-bn lol.
Finally, the furthest differences is just around 3ms at the most. Like the previous 3 bpm change,
example : my 120bpm 00:16:750 - , with your 00:16:753 - 69bpm with normalize. I already state my reason above.
i'm not against it, i was like..., why all the trouble???? in the end, you just give me more work to do.
if you want a gradually slower effect, you can suggest lower SV, and the value.
Excuse me? do you think I give the red line for the suggestion about making the slow effect? what in the world?
I will repeat myself again, I give the new red line so that this map abide the Ranking Criteria and can go rank smoothly. Don't say it like i'm doing this for fun, I also don't want to waste my time doing useless thing.
Do you think only you that has more work to do? If only the red line aren't needed for rank, I also don't want to go through of fixing the timing either, I also have to work more just for this thing, don't assume that only you that busy with things,
im replying this, thinking about all the trouble and the changes has to be made all across the difficulty
as my difficulty do not normalize the BPM into 150 'all of the time', arghhh well... whatever, i just have to deal with it.
Sorry if you don't like dealing with this, if you are unhappy with my service, just go ask other BN that willing to rank this without the timing,
it will save your precious time, right? (i doubt that can pass the QAT without the timing though lol)
03:36:921 - BPM 92.00
this one is effective. without changing any snap for other note.
but still, you give me more work on my difficulty to adjust the surroundings SV.
(so.. a change like this, doesn't even effect anything, just a fancy "1 more new timing point"
with more green timing point that i must add) I will repeat this for 3 times, this is for Rankability.
you can check it without update my difficulty.
i'm sorry to reply like this
i just want to let you know this, it might help you in your future modding.
(since this mp3 is custom and we map it base on our custom) I hope my timing might give you information to avoid any unnecessary DQ in the future.
So in the end, i appreciate all the trouble and i will deal with more and more things to add on my own difficulty.
(since dudehacker already made change, i dont want more changes for other difficulty)
LordRaika wrote:
-normalize bpm is 150, 0.84x from 150 is not, its a slower effect. are you for real.. lol. I don't even know how you think like that.
the original BPM is 120 on most part, if there's part where the BPM is for example 150 or 200 or whatever, you use additional greenline as the normalizer to keep the map playing as intended as it is to be, that's what you called by "normalize", not use greenline to normalize will cause the map to speed up. normalize keeps the map playing like following main BPM while the red line used to follow main beat to abide RC.
-The thing is, if this is a normal mp3, if this is the original song where you can 'hear' exactly what sound and where the sound snap is,
then i would use the red timing. What if i told you the real composition is made base on single bpm. (because i take responsible on creating those keysound) How many times i have to repeat it myself, it is not about the exact sound of the note, it is used to correspond with the main beat of the song, and i already said that it needs to be timed properly. I even already showed all the proof for that.
-if its still unacceptable, then simply change it D: , why you take it too much like its gonna kill you? XD oh cmon... Yeah you can just change it and be done with it, but no, you have to be the first that try to stirring up things by saying that my help only gives much trouble when i only do the necessary thing to be able to push this map forward. If anything, you are the one that do unnecessary things , oh cmon. LOL.
Arzenvald wrote:
isn't 1st downbeat / metronome reset should be at 00:02:000 - and 00:18:400 - for the next part, then 03:19:443 - for this one O .o
and really, this 03:29:878 - the music is simply slowing down but the current bpm is not, its confusing to play and you know its unrankable D:
maxus is right, additional red line is required to sync every beats of the song, its a clear unrankable issue that should be fixed.
also is this map is going to be pushed for rank? because i hope so ><
also, metadata thingy
http://www.flaming-june.com/001/lovesong2/ isn't the title should be 終わりの世界から (maybe its sharlo's vocal but its great to follow the official metadata, keep the romanised title
move Owari no Hoshi no Love Song to tag, album name is not used for source
might also want to clean up the tags, use this : LordRaika Sharlo Kami-Senpai Protastic101 Yanagi Nagi やなぎなぎ Jun Maeda 麻枝 准 Animenz Automap-Chan Keysound Owari no Hoshi no Love Song 終わりの惑星のLove Song SHOGO FJMC-0002
no kd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyJJlPSeEpo
Thank you very much for mod.Asherz007 wrote:
Basically a playtester's overview, I guess... (Very streamy - not a thing I am fond of, but understandable for this map)
03:21:530 - I feel like whatever's here should start 1/4 earlier. It sounds much nicer to have the piano come in at the same time as the vocals (to me at least)
I agree that vocal should be in sync with piano, but the instrument is right and vocal is off, I can't move instrument to match the off sync vocal.
The SV at 03:36:921 feels a little too jerky being 1.62x. Instead, following the gradual speed up of the SVs around it, may I suggest 1.28x instead?
fixed the timing before that so it doesnt feel jerky
04:45:864 - Shouldn't this be B0 and B-1 rather than A#-1?
There is no mistake here
Just a remark on the 4k IN, because that's the diff I played, mostly: there is a crazy amount of trills in the right hand compared to the same kind of action for the left hand. I understand that it's meant to be pitch relevant, but I feel like there's too much RH-trill stuff going on. (01:28:800) (01:48:400) (02:39:200) (03:01:600)
I purposely put more emphasis on the right hand trill, if it is not an unrankeble issue I dont want to change that.
Also, yeah, that middle section timing-wise seemed very off. Following the vocals only, I tried timing and got something like this for the section:
The Instrument timing is perfect where as vocal should synchronize to the instrument.
Feel free to use that if you think it works, because I'm not the best I guess.
Hope this helped.
Kawawa wrote:
I realized the sync was wrong through vocal sample and modding logs.
And It also must be fixed.
03:31:964 - to 03:34:312 - It especially should be placed in the same section with vocal.
Also 04:11:424 - 04:11:904 - 04:12:384 - The whole sync was increasingly pushed away by previous part
this pitch also should be placed with vocal timing.
below parts are fine I think. they had been placed with vocal. till 03:12:800 -
In addition, "Owari no Sekai Kara" also must be "Owari no Sekai kara"
"から" should not be started as a capital word, because It's not kenji, katakana as followed japanese notation.
before I back here, should be fixed everythings what we talked in the chat.
I will help you to make the multi-bpm for the exact sync.
It's need to try a several timing for this, It will be delayed a quite.
(+ Also patterns were actually no problem to me.)General09:40 Kawawa: do you have audio edit program?
09:40 dudehacker: audacity
09:40 Kawawa: yeah.
09:40 dudehacker: but i am not very good at audio editing
09:40 Kawawa: I mean all the "54_**_***.wav"s are delayed 5ms over.
09:40 Kawawa: so must be fixed.
09:41 dudehacker: oh sure I can fix that
09:41 Kawawa: alrightt
09:41 dudehacker: only the 54_* ones?
09:41 Kawawa: yeah, 61files.
09:42 Kawawa: you can check all in case, you're mind.
09:42 dudehacker: ok I will check all
09:42 Kawawa: 4K IN HP 9 -> 8.5
09:42 Kawawa: Let's make it consitent with 7K IN
09:43 dudehacker: ok
09:44 Kawawa: And combobreak.wav
09:44 dudehacker: i removed that
09:44 Kawawa: that's a intention for make the "miss" sound?
09:44 dudehacker: because protastic really hates it
09:44 Kawawa: lol
09:44 dudehacker: it was motivation to full combo
09:45 *Kawawa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1041065 Sharlo - Owari no Sekai Kara [4K HD]]
09:45 Kawawa: 04:32:184 - 04:33:904 - I recommend you to add a note here.
09:46 Kawawa: I think it's important rhythm a quite.
09:47 dudehacker: ok added note
09:47 dudehacker: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8230983
09:47 dudehacker: 04:32:184 (272184|1) - added on column 2
09:48 Kawawa: okay.
09:49 Kawawa: Sharlo shoud be removed in tags
09:49 Kawawa: It overlapped with "artist name"
09:49 dudehacker: ok
09:50 Kawawa: And Romanised Title must be "Owari no Sekai kara"
09:50 Kawawa: Kara -> kara
09:50 dudehacker: ok
09:50 Kawawa: kenji and gatakana only can be capital words.
09:50 Kawawa: generally.
09:51 dudehacker: ok , good to learn
09:51 Kawawa: btw, where you got the metadata?
09:52 dudehacker: from the mod
09:52 Kawawa: can you show me the link
09:52 dudehacker: p/6023757
09:53 dudehacker: and I put sharlo's chinese name because I saw that in some std ranked maps
09:56 Kawawa: alright then.
09:57 Kawawa: some std ranked maps?
09:57 Kawawa: for example?
09:58 *dudehacker is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/392535 Sharlo - Sleeping Butterfly]
09:59 dudehacker: some of the sharlo map doesnt have chinese name
09:59 dudehacker: so im confused
09:59 *dudehacker is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/932236 Sharlo - Eisou Youga ~Meikyou Shisui~]
09:59 Kawawa: I think should be not be.
09:59 Kawawa: I mean for example, chinese name is real name
10:00 Kawawa: And sharlo is a artist name his.
10:00 Kawawa: she's
10:00 dudehacker: I dont think 夏萝 is her real name
10:00 dudehacker: it sounds like sha lo
10:01 Kawawa: got it your point
10:01 Kawawa: I think you're right.
10:01 dudehacker: but in Sharlo's map, she doesnt use 夏萝 as artist name
10:01 Kawawa: let's keep this one.
10:01 dudehacker: ok
10:02 Kawawa: old map mostly does not exact
10:03 Kawawa: do you hava any unsure issues for you?
10:03 Kawawa: in the map.
10:03 dudehacker: the timing
10:04 dudehacker: it should be good not but not 100% sure
10:04 Kawawa: which part, and what about?
10:06 dudehacker: p/6034767
10:07 dudehacker: 3:15 to 3:36
10:08 dudehacker: is my timing right for that section?
10:09 Kawawa: right, but needs to be fixed some.
10:09 Kawawa: https://puu.sh/w79ie/fcea7a6cb1.png
10:09 Kawawa: for example.
10:10 dudehacker: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8231084
10:10 Kawawa: nope.
10:10 dudehacker: how do I fix this?
10:10 Kawawa: I mean from below part.
10:10 Kawawa: 03:16:552 - bpm 83.
10:11 Kawawa: then It will be like that https://puu.sh/w79mG/54a3a07bd2.jpg
10:12 Kawawa: got it my point?
10:12 dudehacker: ah I see
10:12 Kawawa: yeah.
10:13 dudehacker: do I need add a green timing at 03:16:552- to normalise it?
10:14 Kawawa: 03:19:443 - to 03:34:312 -
10:14 Kawawa: I realized right now.
10:14 Kawawa: the sync is really wrong with vocal.
10:14 Kawawa: like 03:33:008 (213008|2,213008|6,213269|3,213529|4,213790|5,214051|0,214138|2,214225|4,214312|6) -
10:14 Kawawa: It must be followed with vocal
10:15 dudehacker: how do I fix this
10:16 Kawawa: hmmmmmmm
10:16 dudehacker: i made the keysound first
10:16 dudehacker: then asked Sharlo to sing vocal
10:17 Kawawa: add multi bpm.
10:17 dudehacker: and this part is not in sync
10:18 dudehacker: can I leave it like this, doesn't sound too bad in my opinion
10:18 Kawawa: nope,
10:18 Kawawa: It will be dq reason.
10:18 Kawawa: I can make it exact sync as add some multi BPM
10:19 dudehacker: can you do it for me please, I don't know how to add multi bpm to make it sync
10:19 Kawawa: but It will be take me the time a quite.
10:19 Kawawa: so wait me!
10:19 dudehacker: ok thank you so much
10:20 dudehacker: really nice of you
10:22 Kawawa: alright then.
10:23 dudehacker: i will fix everything else and update
10:40 Kawawa: And disable the widescreensupport
10:40 dudehacker: ok
10:44 dudehacker: updated map, still fixing the hitsounds
10:48 Kawawa: okay posted anyway for the promise
Maxus wrote:
Because the current one Is not rankable. the notes have to synchronize with the beat according to Ranking criteria.
Oh ya, There's also 2 map that already got DQ because of those timing issues, p/6008604/ and t/472500/start=150 .
Arzenvald wrote:
I've been playing and know this map for long, and i can't see why there is a problem on it.Kawawa wrote:
