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Volta

Nishizumi wrote:

PatZar wrote:

ntar juga ke dq lagi
dukun confirmed
[R]

Nishizumi wrote:

PatZar wrote:

ntar juga ke dq lagi
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Surono

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi, I have some difficulty concerns regarding the lower difficulties of Taiko.

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:30:864 (8) - although the song bpm is relatively low, it would be better to remove this note for a 3/1 break so beginners could prepare for the next harder session. yes indeed this is a low bpm, but dont you think e.g 00:32:864 - ~ 00:33:197 - this gap and 00:32:531 (10,11,12) - ~ 00:35:197 (13,14,15) - these pattern are already enough as breaks and easier colors? I think its fine since I wanted to make it challenging, also this part seems not really hard to practice. mostly its simpler pattern colors or mirror colors. yeh snap like that would be hard but I think the colors and that 1 example gap is enough for this part.
  2. 01:03:197 (39,40) - similar to ^ , you may remove these notes for a longer rest moment before the kiai. I think from 01:04:864 - here until enterin the kiai it looks friendly when alternating the kk"d" 1/1 to K then back to d
  3. 01:37:239 (21) - consider moving this note to 01:37:989 - to avoid 1/2 triplet in Kantan ? last part I would kept it, why not. this bpm reduced -10 and its a simple pattern.
  • [Futsuu]
  1. 01:02:864 (89,91) - similar to Kantan, these notes could be deleted for some 2/1 breaks before the kiai. kk d d k k, still friendly for me also 01:06:197 - theres a moment to break here
  2. 01:16:864 (6,7) - same as ^ its consistenct with 01:06:864 - this notes
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. From 00:29:864 to 01:41:364 - there are no 3/2 or longer breaks in this 72-second pattern chain, which is too demanding as an intermediate difficulty. For example, 00:42:197 (92) - could be removed to leave a break upon transiting to next session. 00:33:197 - ~ 00:35:197 - , 00:35:864 - ~00:35:864 - , 00:37:864 - ~ 00:37:864 - , 00:38:531 - ~ 00:39:531 - these are some pattern that has few gaps so i think its fine. 00:42:197 - I dont think I need remove it since its middle level, it would be fit as futsuu. and the next has some 1/1 double notes e.g 00:43:864 (96,97) - . sorry with this expres explaining, i just pointed out some gaps on simple patterns.
  2. 01:02:531 (141,142) - same as ^ would break consistency at following hithat
  3. 01:16:864 (179) - similar to Futsuu, this note could be removed as well. important sound, kept to not delete.
In general, Muzukashii is too consecutively mapped at the moment. Im fine with the condition of muzukashii since its slow bpm and has simple patterns,
1/1 gaps rest and 1/2 simple patterns are enough at overall of this diff imo

Feel free to call me for disqualification if you agree with these, then I can provide a more detailed mod to follow through.
thanks Nardo for checking!
Nardoxyribonucleic

Surono wrote:

  • [Muzukashii]
  1. From 00:29:864 to 01:41:364 - there are no 3/2 or longer breaks in this 72-second pattern chain, which is too demanding as an intermediate difficulty. For example, 00:42:197 (92) - could be removed to leave a break upon transiting to next session. 00:33:197 - ~ 00:35:197 - , 00:35:864 - ~00:35:864 - , 00:37:864 - ~ 00:37:864 - , 00:38:531 - ~ 00:39:531 - these are some pattern that has few gaps so i think its fine. 00:42:197 - I dont think I need remove it since its middle level, it would be fit as futsuu. and the next has some 1/1 double notes e.g 00:43:864 (96,97) - . sorry with this expres explaining, i just pointed out some gaps on simple patterns.
  2. 01:02:531 (141,142) - same as ^ would break consistency at following hithat
  3. 01:16:864 (179) - similar to Futsuu, this note could be removed as well. important sound, kept to not delete.
In general, Muzukashii is too consecutively mapped at the moment. Im fine with the condition of muzukashii since its slow bpm and has simple patterns,
1/1 gaps rest and 1/2 simple patterns are enough at overall of this diff imo
Slow bpm is not an excuse for continuous patterning. The main snaps and structure used in Muzukashii are 1/2 and 1/4 like ordinary ones, so gaps shorter than 3/2 are not regarded as effective breaks.
Topic Starter
Surono
but I feel like the song is slow enough to have the breaks be more scarce, I would agree your concern if this case similar like at DioSynth song on muzukashii.
the difference this map has slow song and xfrac map has fast song, 3/2 for 200bpm would be good for newbie but for 90bpm its emm.. kinda boring and babying a map

thats it
Nardoxyribonucleic
72/101

I think you could understand what the fraction above implies. As an intermediate difficulty, this length of pattern constellation is not really acceptable. Placing rests could in fact help you emphasize some specific parts rather than enchaining the patterns all together. It would not make the map boring by removing a small number of notes, not to mention how this would baby a map.

114/1

You may also refer to the ranking criteria regarding the guidelines for Muzukashii. As mentioned previously, although the song bpm is relatively slow, the said chain is much longer than the suggested 20/1 to leave a 3/2 break. I hope you could understand the great discrepancies and reconsider my suggestions.

I would leave it to other Taiko QATs for now.
Kin
Rhythm related guidelines and rules apply to approximately 180 BPM maps. If your song is drastically faster or slower, some variables might be different. Apply reasonable judgment in these cases.
I'd say it's enough with the 1/1 spam here: 00:43:197 (95,96,97,98) - 00:48:531 (108,109,110,111) -

You should insert at least 1 rest moment that is 3/2 or longer after 16/1 to 20/1 of continuous mapping.
It sure doesn't go well with this guideline, however, the song is drastically slower & I don't think it really need any more break.
Professor Gila
wadoooooooo awas terpycu :o :o :o :o :o

(oh sh!t, mind the trigger)

For Nardo and surono, may i suggest to continue the discussion on in game PM / forum PM?

and btw, had the taiko ranking criteria been revised before?
frukoyurdakul
I agree with Kin here. Yes, the map is 80-90 bpm and lacks of 3/2 breaks on Muzu, however, if you think through this way, on 180 bpm scale (which fits exactly with the RC) the breaks should be 3/4 or more, and the muzukashii one already has 1/1 breaks more than enough. Same goes for Futsuu in 1/1 and Kantan for 2/1. Senjou no Aria's taiko diffs mapped based on 220 bpm breaks, which can be seen on Kantan there are 3/2 and 2/1 breaks but very rarely 3/1 breaks, and this should be treated like that as well.
Monstrata
Seems fine to me. Low bpm is a valid reason for using longer chains imo. The principle holds true for standard and ctb too.
Raiden
alright, let's follow the slow BPM argument

but then we need to make adjustments to Kantan and Futsuu:

Kantan needs more frequent 1/2s, and since you cannot introduce 1/4 in Futsuu, longer 1/2 chains will work just fine.

Both sides of the argument are correct, but if you apply that argument, you must apply it to the entire set, not just one difficulty :(

dq'ing for now so that you may follow up the line of reasoning
Professor Gila
:c
Topic Starter
Surono
the journey has begun, again
will buff the lower diffs to balance this set, babyplayers rip you.

mak e tolong patzar dem ur wish magic spooky lol jk, @indon gw lupa mana mim gambar tuan kereb petrik seneng ini kena de kiyek. ( dw, im just typing this to chering my friends )
Arlecchino
kono yume futatabi usureta
once again becomes a blangdrim
well dis is literally a blangdrim after all yhh

di lakoni wae yo sir
rakuat yo tinggal ngopi
Topic Starter
Surono

-[ Asuna ]- wrote:

rakuat yo tinggal ngopi
PatZar

Volta wrote:

[quote=Nishizumi]

PatZar wrote:

ntar juga ke dq lagi
dukun confirmed[/quote]

Topic Starter
Surono
an jing lang jiao beneran ketemu

yeah guys will fix this soonTsoMeday since the users that nominated this map b4 has dead stats rn I guess, maybe busy or rarely to online, nvm.
Momota

Nishizumi wrote:

PatZar wrote:

ntar juga ke dq lagi
Professor Gila
oh ya kalau misal mapset hybrid ke dq, status bubble tiap mode hilang semua apa?
Arlecchino
wo ow cringe af
balonnya lenyap semua woxowkxwo
Topic Starter
Surono

Professor Gila wrote:

oh ya kalau misal mapset hybrid ke dq, status bubble tiap mode hilang semua apa?
karena issues di mapset ini cuman di taiko setnya dong, bisa sih nanti langsung dibub kalau issues telah di perbaiki di taikonya. tapi ada baiknya mode ctbnya di check lagi untuk memastikan ga ada apa-apa yang berisko, ntar pas requalify lagi malah buwahnya yang bermaslah lol.
itu kenapa sekarang lagi nyantai-nyantai aja dah.. mereka juga ada life kan jgn kira robot gedek kwkwk

tapi sumpah asujingak bener, barusan gw bangun inget mimpinya.. gw lagi main osu ngefix map ini ya rab sampe kebawa mimpi how sad *sniff*
Professor Gila
ooooo sip sip

ilang udah pekerjaan map aku disini gara gara minggat lama :c
Alwaysyukaz

Surono wrote:

Professor Gila wrote:

oh ya kalau misal mapset hybrid ke dq, status bubble tiap mode hilang semua apa?
karena issues di mapset ini cuman di taiko setnya dong, bisa sih nanti langsung dibub kalau issues telah di perbaiki di taikonya. tapi ada baiknya mode ctbnya di check lagi untuk memastikan ga ada apa-apa yang berisko, ntar pas requalify lagi malah buwahnya yang bermaslah lol.
itu kenapa sekarang lagi nyantai-nyantai aja dah.. mereka juga ada life kan jgn kira robot gedek kwkwk

tapi sumpah asujingak bener, barusan gw bangun inget mimpinya.. gw lagi main osu ngefix map ini ya rab sampe kebawa mimpi how sad *sniff*

Semangat sur :'v
pokok jo dadi kyk aku yo awokaowakwoakwaowoak
ez pz a.k.a jalur instant boost XD
Topic Starter
Surono

Professor Gila wrote:

ilang udah pekerjaan map aku disini gara gara minggat lama :c
lu nyusain gw tbh b4 >:"C
Arlecchino
cow plog X"DX"DX"D

Surono wrote:

lu NYUSAIN gw tbh b4 >:"C
fixed

edit : hei new pej, lets shiet post till 30pej jikejike
Professor Gila

Surono wrote:

Professor Gila wrote:

ilang udah pekerjaan map aku disini gara gara minggat lama :c
lu nyusain gw tbh b4 >:"C
idih >:C
Tanomoshii Nekojou
awwwtsss.... I've been waiting for this... :C
Topic Starter
Surono
sry, im so lazy..

maybe someday [2]
Topic Starter
Surono
double post for notif

Updated due the changes as Raiden addressed previously, Kantan and Futsuu were buffd to balance the concept.
Ready to check again
Professor Gila
Colek si chromo, atau si sh1n1

//lariiiii
Uta
400 posts NANI !?!?
Topic Starter
Surono
this map has been sufferin manny da effort ways, and jaman now kebanyakan eekposteng hadhe.
Topic Starter
Surono
the changes, i almost forget but i try

00:10:531 - ~ 00:20:697 - 1st
00:31:864 - ~ close to enter kiai maybe
and a little bit improvement at kiai

kantan and futsuu, oke.. ready for re-rank if whoelse fine with this.
PatZar
BN mana mw ngererank lagi anjg, scorenya udah minus
Topic Starter
Surono
sistim jaman kapan ciegggss
gak, ni orang2nya lagi ga tersedia aja.. ini dq juga gegara hasil ngebacod bukan salah mreka n ga ada kaitannya.

tinggal waiting aja lah.... sampe pnya a laifu kwkw
Jonarwhal
OwO
Volta
Kirain ini udah wafat wkw
Topic Starter
Surono
Ya Rab Alhamdullilah
Professor Gila
kalau (misalkan) aku jadi bn o!c, awas aja minta cek map ini ke aku kwakwkawwkakwkaw

Surono wrote:

hehh ngapain? revenge gitu kek kiddo qwdkqkdwqkdwq :C

edit:
real shitposting and I caught his trap

dah lah, kalau mau bales ni post, edit last post lu.
lagian be en sblumnya bisa gw panggil, lu pamer dah daftar cetebe be en? aduhh gw ga aneh2 dah gw doain lu ketrima WQKOWKQOWQKOW mungkin
ya kan udah dibilang literally

dan juga belum tentu dong jadi bn?
Topic Starter
Surono
hehh ngapain? revenge gitu kek kiddo qwdkqkdwqkdwq :C

edit:
real shitposting and I caught his trap

dah lah, kalau mau bales ni post, edit last post lu.
lagian be en sblumnya bisa gw panggil, lu pamer dah daftar cetebe be en? aduhh gw ga aneh2 dah gw doain lu ketrima WQKOWKQOWQKOW mungkin
Professor Gila
zzzz

literali

pl0xxxx



HEY KIDDO
-Sh1n1-
Sorry for the long delay my baka bro~~

Arlecchino
Cie finally
gratz sir~

wah prof sableng mau jadi be en buah, prok prok prok
good luck ya haa ha..
Professor Gila
insta quali iki?
Nishizumi
ntar juga didq lagi
Professor Gila
ngarep kowe
Topic Starter
Surono
*Surono felt da atmosphere of wind

Nishizumi wrote:

ntar juga didq lagi
Professor Gila

Nishizumi wrote:

ntar juga didq lagi
udah 2 kali aja bilang begitu disini :v
AchsanLovers

Surono wrote:

Soon™ November

bingung buat nyari penabuh bedugh...........
gg setahun
Topic Starter
Surono
mau dua tahun la yaw ~
PatZar

Professor Gila wrote:

kalau (misalkan) aku jadi bn o!c, awas aja minta cek map ini ke aku kwakwkawwkakwkaw

Surono wrote:

hehh ngapain? revenge gitu kek kiddo qwdkqkdwqkdwq :C

edit:
real shitposting and I caught his trap

dah lah, kalau mau bales ni post, edit last post lu.
lagian be en sblumnya bisa gw panggil, lu pamer dah daftar cetebe be en? aduhh gw ga aneh2 dah gw doain lu ketrima WQKOWKQOWQKOW mungkin
ya kan udah dibilang literally

dan juga belum tentu dong jadi bn?

lmao this kid

Surono wrote:

*Surono felt da atmosphere of wind

Nishizumi wrote:

ntar juga didq lagi
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