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Irohas

1,353 posts

Joined May 2014

Irohas 2017-08-29T13:52:17+00:00

as requested

add pono to tags
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endless sky

00:01:989 (2) - 00:03:596 (2) - 00:05:203 (2) - 00:06:810 (2) - 00:08:417 (2) - 00:10:025 (2) - 00:11:632 (2) - pk pas essayer d'nc ça pour éviter les misreadings
00:15:365 (2,3) - le flow est un peu maladroit jpense ):
01:11:213 (2,1) - devrait etre plus grand que 01:11:079 (1,2) - jpense, tu devrais diminuer 01:11:079 (1,2) -
01:30:097 (1) - remove le nc ici jpense
01:38:400 (2) - etc. pareil que pour la première suggestion

garden

ok nothing

pono

00:09:757 (4) - rip hitsound
01:25:811 (1,2) - spacing, trop different par rapport aux autres ): (ex: 01:27:418 (1,2) -)
01:43:222 (5,1) - same here, c sûrement le son qui devrait être le plus emphasize et ça l'est pas

owens

01:04:650 (5,1) - essaie d'emphasize un peu (1) pck il mérite
01:37:061 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - essaie d'avoir un spacing consistent jpense que ça rendrait mieux, ça semble un peu désordonné sinon
00:00:650 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - ici aussi

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c tt pour moi, glglgl!!

Kyuukai

1,516 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-29T14:06:24+00:00

no reply = fixé

Irohas wrote:
as requested

add pono to tags
[]
endless sky
00:01:989 (2) - 00:03:596 (2) - 00:05:203 (2) - 00:06:810 (2) - 00:08:417 (2) - 00:10:025 (2) - 00:11:632 (2) - pk pas essayer d'nc ça pour éviter les misreadings
00:15:365 (2,3) - le flow est un peu maladroit jpense ): j'trouve que c'est ok DD:
01:11:213 (2,1) - devrait etre plus grand que 01:11:079 (1,2) - jpense, tu devrais diminuer 01:11:079 (1,2) - J'ai courbé un peu le slider, mais l'antijump emphasize le 1 donc j'pense que c'est bon xd
01:30:097 (1) - remove le nc ici jpense
01:38:400 (2) - etc. pareil que pour la première suggestion
pono
00:09:757 (4) - rip hitsound
c tt pour moi, glglgl!!

woah trop sympa mek mrci t'es le meilleur !!!!!

PoNo

504 posts

Joined July 2014

PoNo 2017-08-29T17:50:07+00:00

Irohas wrote:
as requested
pono
01:25:811 (1,2) - spacing, trop different par rapport aux autres ): (ex: 01:27:418 (1,2) -) Pas tellement de plus le placement est justifié par l'aesthetic donc je pense pas change
01:43:222 (5,1) - same here, c sûrement le son qui devrait être le plus emphasize et ça l'est pas J'ai simplement gardé le même spacing comme tout les autres pattern du style, pour la consistency

makisokk

928 posts

Joined August 2013

makisokk 2017-09-14T17:08:49+00:00

Hello from my que
[Shogun's Easy]

00:21:525 (3,1) - I do not know if it's a good overlap, but in my opinion it's better to avoid
00:40:275 (2) - hmm, do curve?

[Normal]

00:15:900 (4,5) - Can instead make one slider?

[Owens' Insane]

00:14:561 (2) - hmm ctrl+g?
00:20:990 (2) - ^

[Garden's Extra]

00:19:248 (2,3,4,1) - Make an even square, for a better flow?

sorryfor bad mod

So good map
Good luck

Kyuukai

1,516 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-09-18T12:29:56+00:00

makisokk wrote:
[Normal]
00:15:900 (4,5) - Can instead make one slider? why, I'm following the drums

ty for modding xd

Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Shunao 2017-09-18T19:43:57+00:00

makisokk wrote:
Hello from my que
[Shogun's Easy]
00:21:525 (3,1) - I do not know if it's a good overlap, but in my opinion it's better to avoid i don't think so it's readable and not confusing imo
00:40:275 (2) - hmm, do curve? kk
sorryfor bad mod
So good map
Good luck

Thanks for modding!~

bonjour

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Blizs

898 posts

Joined November 2013

Blizs 2017-10-06T09:04:34+00:00

sorry for being late

Endless Sky

00:15:900 (5) - use 2 circles instead ? I think the drum sound on 00:16:034 - worth a click like 00:19:115 (1,2) - . Same goes for 00:22:329 (5) - .
00:27:686 (4,5,1) - I think they deserve a lower spacing for their 1/2 gap (just like 00:34:115 (5,6,7) - ).
01:29:829 (1,2,1) - The movement doesn't really deserve to be stopped here. Maybe you stopped the movement for the drum sound, but it's not strong enough to provide it. Two 1/2 sliders would be good to keep the movement.
01:43:490 (1,1,2) - vs the other (eg. : 01:40:275 (1,1,2) - , 01:38:668 (1,1,2) - ). Why you made it different from the other when it deserve to be same ?

Garden's Extra

There are some notes that slightly touch the HP bar. You might want to move them lower a bit. 01:12:418 (6) - , 01:14:025 (3,4) - , 01:20:320 (2) - .
00:10:292 (1,2,3,4,5) - Even for the last combo on the calm part, I think it deserve a similar pattern like 00:08:685 (1,2,3,4,5) - and the previous parts too since they have a same effect in the song. Yeah I'd expect something like 01:46:704 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - .
01:28:222 (4,5) - Generally, you use the tail-head overlap for this kind of extend slider in the whole diff. So I wonder why did you make it different here.

Pono's Insane

01:48:311 (1) - Maybe unstack this note ? just like you did on 00:11:900 (1) -
ok

Owens' Insane

00:47:240 (5) - NC here and switch NC between 00:48:311 (1,3) - to keep the consistency of 6 beats NC.
00:55:275 (3) - Wrong snap. should be on 00:55:285 - , the offset change point.
01:09:740 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I think these 1/2 circles deserve to be on 01:10:543 (1,2,3) - since these point has the 1/2 snares. And you can cover the old circles' part with 2 slider like 01:08:133 (1,2) - . Same goes for 01:22:597 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - .
01:23:936 (1,2,1) - Wow... this 1/2 spacing is so killing. I wonder why did you put this really big spacing when you didn't do it in the whole diff but this one. It feels really weird for the notes spread.
01:48:311 (1) - Missing clap.

Mochi's Hard

00:24:740 - rasanya agak aneh kalo efek sebesar ini di lagu cuma dikasih slider tail. Rasanya efek besar kayak gini lebih cocok dikasih klik daripada cuma slider tail. Gimana kalo pake pattern yang mirip kayak 00:14:293 (3,1) - ?
01:19:383 - Sama kayak di atas tentang efeknya.
01:36:659 (4,5) - Gimana kalo circle duluan baru slider ? Biar nangkep jump nya ke 01:37:061 (1) - jadi lebih gampang.

Normal

00:11:632 (3,4) - Ctrl+g ? Yeah just to give a full movement stop on 00:13:490 (1) - xd
00:19:650 (6) - Unlike 00:16:436 (5) - which have snare on the red tick, I didn't hear anything comes from the song on the red tick here. Even if you want to indicate the emphasis on the white tick more, It feels really unpleasant for a Normal diff to put notes on the point where there's nothing in the song. A circle on the white tick would solve the problem. Also the same for 01:33:579 (5) - .
Some misplaced ncs start from 00:27:954 - if you want to do a 12 beats combo. Here they are :
1. 00:27:954 (1,3) - switch
2. 00:31:168 (1,3) - switch
3. 00:34:382 (1,3) - switch

Shogun's Easy

From 00:00:650 - to 00:11:900 - . For this calm part in a high bpm song, Using this much one beat snapping and 3/2 slider feels really painful for an Easy diff. It feels like it's a Normal diff. And also this part is more harder than the part with a higher dense (such as 00:13:490 - to 00:26:347 - ) while this part is a really calm part. Technically, a calmer part deserve a calmer note play too right ? You don't have to follow all the piano sound there, maybe you can follow the backsound piano which plays on the easier point (eg. : 00:00:650 - , 00:02:257 - , 00:03:864 - , 00:05:471 - , 00:06:275 - , 00:07:078 - , etc.) instead ?
01:23:668 (4) - There's nothing in the song deserve this circle. Since this is an Easy diff, the notes deserve to be on the point which has a big effect or emphasis, but not this point. Maybe you can reverse 01:22:597 (3) - instead ? don't forget to move the spinner start.
From 01:37:061 - to the end. Like I said before.

ok that's all from me!~
GL!

Kyuukai

1,516 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-10-06T09:56:04+00:00

Blizs wrote:
sorry for being late

Endless Sky
00:15:900 (5) - use 2 circles instead ? I think the drum sound on 00:16:034 - worth a click like 00:19:115 (1,2) - . Same goes for 00:22:329 (5) - . I don't want to put too much circles at the beginning because it would make it too hard, and I'm following the cymballs with thoses sliders
00:27:686 (4,5,1) - I think they deserve a lower spacing for their 1/2 gap (just like 00:34:115 (5,6,7) - ). but the spacing multiplier is higher at 00:34:115 (5,6,7) - and the break between the notes makes it fine imo
01:29:829 (1,2,1) - The movement doesn't really deserve to be stopped here. Maybe you stopped the movement for the drum sound, but it's not strong enough to provide it. Two 1/2 sliders would be good to keep the movement. I think a break fits better here
01:43:490 (1,1,2) - vs the other (eg. : 01:40:275 (1,1,2) - , 01:38:668 (1,1,2) - ). Why you made it different from the other when it deserve to be same ? Intensity of the piano lowers, thats why spacing lowers on 01:43:490 (1,1,2)

Normal
00:11:632 (3,4) - Ctrl+g ? Yeah just to give a full movement stop on 00:13:490 (1) - xd 00:11:900 (4) - has a higher intensity sound, that's why I made a linear movement for 00:10:292 (1,2,3) - because the intensity is the same and changed the direction on the 4 because it's intensity is higher
00:19:650 (6) - Unlike 00:16:436 (5) - which have snare on the red tick, I didn't hear anything comes from the song on the red tick here. Even if you want to indicate the emphasis on the white tick more, It feels really unpleasant for a Normal diff to put notes on the point where there's nothing in the song. A circle on the white tick would solve the problem. Also the same for 01:33:579 (5) - . ye,changed
Some misplaced ncs start from 00:27:954 - if you want to do a 12 beats combo. Here they are :
00:27:954 (1,3) - switch
00:31:168 (1,3) - switch
00:34:382 (1,3) - switch changed

ok that's all from me!~
GL!

Thanks for modding !

Owens

167 posts

Joined March 2015

Owens 2017-10-06T10:23:32+00:00

Irohas wrote:
as requested

owens
01:04:650 (5,1) - essaie d'emphasize un peu (1) pck il mérite fait
01:37:061 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - essaie d'avoir un spacing consistent jpense que ça rendrait mieux, ça semble un peu désordonné sinon
00:00:650 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - ici aussi
En fait je veux juste faire des patterns de trois sliders un peu partout avec des formes et des spacing différents, c'était l'effet recherché c:
c tt pour moi, glglgl!! thx

makisokk wrote:
Hello from my que

[Owens' Insane]
00:14:561 (2) - hmm ctrl+g?
00:20:990 (2) - ^
Good luck no changed thx

Blizs wrote:
sorry for being late

Owens' Insane
00:47:240 (5) - NC here and switch NC between 00:48:311 (1,3) - to keep the consistency of 6 beats NC. done
00:55:275 (3) - Wrong snap. should be on 00:55:285 - , the offset change point.fixed
01:09:740 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I think these 1/2 circles deserve to be on 01:10:543 (1,2,3) - since these point has the 1/2 snares. And you can cover the old circles' part with 2 slider like 01:08:133 (1,2) - . Same goes for 01:22:597 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - . The song gets stronger here, and you're right it's even stronger after circles, but there is the vocals. i'm mapping the vocals with sliders since the beginning so.. I already tried that way, but i highly pref' it like this tbh
01:23:936 (1,2,1) - Wow... this 1/2 spacing is so killing. I wonder why did you put this really big spacing when you didn't do it in the whole diff but this one. It feels really weird for the notes spread. strongest part + ending of kiai so yeah. It's just higher spacing, not too high imo
01:48:311 (1) - Missing clap.fixed
GL! thx for modding

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Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Shunao 2017-10-06T19:23:10+00:00

Blizs wrote:
sorry for being late

Shogun's Easy
From 00:00:650 - to 00:11:900 - . For this calm part in a high bpm song, Using this much one beat snapping and 3/2 slider feels really painful for an Easy diff. It feels like it's a Normal diff. And also this part is more harder than the part with a higher dense (such as 00:13:490 - to 00:26:347 - ) while this part is a really calm part. Technically, a calmer part deserve a calmer note play too right ? You don't have to follow all the piano sound there, maybe you can follow the backsound piano which plays on the easier point (eg. : 00:00:650 - , 00:02:257 - , 00:03:864 - , 00:05:471 - , 00:06:275 - , 00:07:078 - , etc.) instead ?
01:23:668 (4) - There's nothing in the song deserve this circle. Since this is an Easy diff, the notes deserve to be on the point which has a big effect or emphasis, but not this point. Maybe you can reverse 01:22:597 (3) - instead ? don't forget to move the spinner start.
From 01:37:061 - to the end. Like I said before.

ok that's all from me!~
GL!

No reply mean fixed!

Thanks for modding!~

bobi

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MaridiuS

879 posts

Joined June 2014

MaridiuS 2017-11-04T19:33:03+00:00

Hey mod from queue.

[Endless sky]
When listening to the song, the most important thing that comes to my mind are 00:58:490 (1,3,1,2,3) - cymbals that are backed up by usually most intense vocals and piano. They are much more distinct than anything else and unique to this song. Just making them as sliders isn't enough.

Other than that, certain phrases have more intense vocals and that is consistently repeated. 00:58:490 - to 01:00:097 - the most intense burst of vocals. Second phrase 01:01:704 - 01:03:311 - has lower intensity, Yuiko sounds more quiet which suggest lower intensity in the song overall on that phrase. 01:04:918 - Here you can realize that the intensity is like the first part I linked, meaning that the consistency in the song is to alternate the vocal intensity between phrases, 1 being strong and 2nd weak. To put it in osu! language, 1st downbeat is the most intense when it comes to vocals, 2nd downbeat has no vocals on the base cymbal hits, 3rd has vocals but less intense than first downbeat, 4th is like 2nd. And that repeats throughout the kiai.
Now the issue is the map doesn't represent that song idea at all. In fact it contradicts it sometimes with first phrase having lower spacing on the vocal + cymbal sounds: 01:04:918 (1,2,3,4,1) - compared to 01:07:999 (2,1,2,3,4,1) - . So generally the spacing on those vocal + cymbal beats was chosen arbitrarily without much relation to the song other than being exactly that rhythm.
Furthermore, the spacing being chosen as it is, I humbly advise you to raise it a bit more and make those vocal + cymbal beats much more impactful, they're like the purpose of the song existing and being awesome as it currently is. Them being extremely low at parts 00:58:758 (2,3) - compared to random drum hits that every song has 01:00:900 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - looks bland tbh. Those drums beats I linked have weak vocals backing them up, Yuiko sounds conservative, saving her energy for more important parts, which kinda implies that the part isn't so important to the song. It is a good idea to give bigger spacing to the most important notes and scale the rest compared to that. This issue should be referred to also in 00:13:490 - section, except there are no vocals there. The cymbals are still important and backed up by guitar in that section instead.
01:11:213 (2,1,2,3) - Other than spacing as emphasis, flow such as this looks healthy and beneficial to the song and map alike for those sounds. Of course adjusting all that while making patterns on your own, you should look on the previous stuff I've mentioned and focus on bringing 1st phrase to be more spaced and intense compared to the 2nd where the vocals are down.

Other than that, visuals could at certain parts be improved, but I guess they don't matter that much. Dope hitsounds. Sweet flow. Garden and Pono, you should also take a look at this mod even if it's not your map, it contains similar issues, especially relating 1st phrase vs 2nd scaling.

Is this even a mod lol.

Kyuukai

1,516 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-11-04T19:58:56+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
Hey mod from queue.

[Endless sky]
When listening to the song, the most important thing that comes to my mind are 00:58:490 (1,3,1,2,3) - cymbals that are backed up by usually most intense vocals and piano. They are much more distinct than anything else and unique to this song. Just making them as sliders isn't enough. Because they are strong, I decided to map them as sliders, and I think circles won't fit at all so..
Other than that, certain phrases have more intense vocals and that is consistently repeated. 00:58:490 - to 01:00:097 - the most intense burst of vocals. Second phrase 01:01:704 - 01:03:311 - has lower intensity, Yuiko sounds more quiet which suggest lower intensity in the song overall on that phrase. 01:04:918 - Here you can realize that the intensity is like the first part I linked, meaning that the consistency in the song is to alternate the vocal intensity between phrases, 1 being strong and 2nd weak. To put it in osu! language, 1st downbeat is the most intense when it comes to vocals, 2nd downbeat has no vocals on the base cymbal hits, 3rd has vocals but less intense than first downbeat, 4th is like 2nd. And that repeats throughout the kiai. I wanted to emphasize the strongest sounds on every parts you said, because the song instrumentals intensity stays the same, I didn't take in account yuiko's vocals intensity, hitsounds are mapped on yuiko's vocals, but sliders mainly follows the drums of the kiai
Now the issue is the map doesn't represent that song idea at all. In fact it contradicts it sometimes with first phrase having lower spacing on the vocal + cymbal sounds: 01:04:918 (1,2,3,4,1) - compared to 01:07:999 (2,1,2,3,4,1) - . So generally the spacing on those vocal + cymbal beats was chosen arbitrarily without much relation to the song other than being exactly that rhythm.
Furthermore, the spacing being chosen as it is, I humbly advise you to raise it a bit more and make those vocal + cymbal beats much more impactful, they're like the purpose of the song existing and being awesome as it currently is. Them being extremely low at parts 00:58:758 (2,3) - compared to random drum hits that every song has 01:00:900 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - looks bland tbh. Those drums beats I linked have weak vocals backing them up, Yuiko sounds conservative, saving her energy for more important parts, which kinda implies that the part isn't so important to the song. It is a good idea to give bigger spacing to the most important notes and scale the rest compared to that. This issue should be referred to also in 00:13:490 - section, except there are no vocals there. The cymbals are still important and backed up by guitar in that section instead.
01:11:213 (2,1,2,3) - Other than spacing as emphasis, flow such as this looks healthy and beneficial to the song and map alike for those sounds. Of course adjusting all that while making patterns on your own, you should look on the previous stuff I've mentioned and focus on bringing 1st phrase to be more spaced and intense compared to the 2nd where the vocals are down.
Other than that, visuals could at certain parts be improved, but I guess they don't matter that much. Dope hitsounds. Sweet flow. Garden and Pono, you should also take a look at this mod even if it's not your map, it contains similar issues, especially relating 1st phrase vs 2nd scaling.

Is this even a mod lol.

Well, after reading the rest of ur post, I think your mapping vision is way too different from mine, I just wanted to make a map for the song enjoyable to play for people, not a map reflecting the song at 100% xd
Still, thank you for modding !

MaridiuS

879 posts

Joined June 2014

MaridiuS 2017-11-04T20:14:08+00:00

Kyuukai wrote:
I just wanted to make a map for the song enjoyable to play for people, not a map reflecting the song at 100% xd

Why not both OwO

Kyuukai

1,516 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-11-04T20:18:22+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
Kyuukai wrote:
I just wanted to make a map for the song enjoyable to play for people, not a map reflecting the song at 100% xd
Why not both OwO

not good enough

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-11-20T09:35:52+00:00

Endless Sky

00:14:293 (1,3) - This is just my opinion but I feel like having these as straight sliders would make the structure of the entire section look neater https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9471043 Just delete the middle nodes and see if you like it or not
00:17:106 (3,1,3) - ^ . This goes for all other slightly curved sliders in the intro up until 00:26:347
00:22:329 (5) - When listening to the music I'm pretty sure the 1,2 jumps should start here because this is where the drums start
00:23:936 (1,2,3,1) - These should have more spacing imo because sliders with similar sounds had bigger spacing earlier,eg 00:17:507 (1,2,3) -
00:38:936 (1,2) - I think spacing these a bit would just play better in general
00:45:365 (5,6) - ^
00:55:007 (1) - I think this combo pattern would fit better and make the pattern a bit more reading. Idk if it's just me but it just feels like a flurry of NCs before that didn't really mean much https://i.imgur.com/zY2gTC5.png
01:30:097 (2) - just a suggestion from mapper to mapper but how about stacking this on 01:30:499 (2) ? I just find this more fun

Garden

00:18:311 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Im not sure I get the logic with mapping these as triangles like 00:19:115 (1,2,3) - when the sounds are really different. Also 00:18:311 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - circles don't really fit the music imho
00:24:740 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^
00:56:088 (1,2) - curved sliders would be better imo. Red anchors don't really fit in with the rest of the map. Same with 01:01:704 (1) -
01:41:079 (3,4,5) - Are you able to get it in a straight line like 00:04:667 (3,4,5) - ?

Pono

00:01:989 (5) - Ctrl g would be a much better fit here imho for better flow and emphasis
00:03:328 (4) - ^ ctrl g. Same for 00:08:150 (4,1) -
00:38:936 (5,6) - hitsound these
00:51:258 (3,4,5,6,7) - ok so when playing this it feels like I'm following the rhythm of the song wrong. This is how I interpret the song https://i.imgur.com/UDbEjkg.png . If you decide to change this you can do an easy fix by changing the stack positions https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9583233
01:04:383 (4) - ctrl g for flow?
01:25:811 (1,2) - This is the only time you use spacing this low in this section. It feels a bit out of place
01:46:168 (4) and 01:47:775 (4) - ctrl g these? All the other sliders in this section 01:37:061 have back and forth flow

Owen

OD7? Feels like quite an easy insane with not too many circles

00:40:275 (4) - How about restructure like this so you get that curvy flow like the rest of the section? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9583261
01:09:740 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I don't really know what you're following here, couldn't you use the same rhythm you did here 01:03:311 (1,2) - ?
01:22:597 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^ same as above. I also think the circles would fit much better here 01:23:400 to portray the drums.
01:48:311 (1) - Stacking on the tail looks a bit weird aesthetically. How about putting it in the middle of 01:46:704 (1,2,3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9583271

Mochi

Did you have stack leniency 3 so 1/1 gaps are perfectly stacked?
00:24:740 - Would be better to have the downbeat clickable imho like you have in the rest of the section
00:45:365 (5) - 2 circles would be good for mapping the 2 drum sounds
01:31:034 (2,3) - I would suggest to stack these as it flows a lot better and fits in better with the rest of the map. Also I feel like it suits the song better too https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9583291
01:31:034 (2,3) - If you choose not to do the above then doing this would make it at least flow better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9583288
01:48:311 (4) - An NC would give the player a bit more hp before the long spinner

Normal

HP 3.5
00:39:740 (2,3) - nazi blanket mod
01:31:704 (2,3) - ^ hehe xd
01:48:445 (1) - Other people might think different but I think it would be nice to end the spinner at 01:51:525 so it's a lot more beginner friendly

Shogun

00:13:490 (1) - For this section i would recommend using a different rhythm since the current just doesn't seem to follow the music as much as I like. how about this https://i.imgur.com/u6DBf1u.png or if you feel the reverse is too hard for an easy then this https://i.imgur.com/dF0BdFg.png
00:45:097 (4) - 2 circles to show contrast with all the other 1/1 sliders
01:24:271 (1) - fix spinner end. Also better to start on the red or white tick imo
01:30:633 (1,2,3) - How about this rhythm? https://i.imgur.com/AxSzKJd.png
01:33:847 (5) - NC

[]I feel bad that I'm so late, oh and get your GDers to reply to the other mods too

w ~

Kyuukai

1,516 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-11-20T13:21:02+00:00

no reply = fixed

Kisses wrote:
Endless Sky
00:14:293 (1,3) - This is just my opinion but I feel like having these as straight sliders would make the structure of the entire section look neater https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9471043 Just delete the middle nodes and see if you like it or not
00:17:106 (3,1,3) - ^ . This goes for all other slightly curved sliders in the intro up until 00:26:347 I prefer them curved, they look better imo
00:22:329 (5) - When listening to the music I'm pretty sure the 1,2 jumps should start here because this is where the drums start
00:23:936 (1,2,3,1) - These should have more spacing imo because sliders with similar sounds had bigger spacing earlier,eg 00:17:507 (1,2,3) -
00:38:936 (1,2) - I think spacing these a bit would just play better in general
00:45:365 (5,6) - ^
00:55:007 (1) - I think this combo pattern would fit better and make the pattern a bit more reading. Idk if it's just me but it just feels like a flurry of NCs before that didn't really mean much https://i.imgur.com/zY2gTC5.png I don't think NC like you did would fit really well, I wanted to NC everytime a strong sound comes out, so I think I'll keep it like this xd
01:30:097 (2) - just a suggestion from mapper to mapper but how about stacking this on 01:30:499 (2) ? I just find this more fun

Normal
HP 3.5
00:39:740 (2,3) - nazi blanket mod
01:31:704 (2,3) - ^ hehe xd
01:48:445 (1) - Other people might think different but I think it would be nice to end the spinner at 01:51:525 so it's a lot more beginner friendly

[]I feel bad that I'm so late, oh and get your GDers to reply to the other mods too

w ~

Thank you for modding ! I'll call the other GDers to reply the previous mods aswell

Owens

167 posts

Joined March 2015

Owens 2017-11-20T14:09:49+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Owen

OD7? Feels like quite an easy insane with not too many circles
00:40:275 (4) - How about restructure like this so you get that curvy flow like the rest of the section? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9583261
01:09:740 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I don't really know what you're following here, couldn't you use the same rhythm you did here 01:03:311 (1,2) - ?
01:22:597 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^ same as above. I also think the circles would fit much better here 01:23:400 to portray the drums.
01:48:311 (1) - Stacking on the tail looks a bit weird aesthetically. How about putting it in the middle of 01:46:704 (1,2,3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9583271

all fixed thx
w ~

@Kyuukai My HS copier is broken, can you copy for me after updating ? ty

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Garden

osu! Alumni

1,345 posts

Joined June 2013

Garden 2017-11-21T04:22:20+00:00

Moge-ko wrote:
Garden's Extra
[*]01:12:686 (7,1,2) - i think thats unintended u maybe want to stack 01:13:758 (1) - on 01:12:686 (7) - (u might don't see it with stacking in view options disabled in the editor but its visible ingame) i always have stack view on, this one doesn't matter much cuz ar is high enough to avoid aesthetic issues[/list]

makisokk wrote:
[Garden's Extra]
00:19:248 (2,3,4,1) - Make an even square, for a better flow? not intended to be a square actually

Blizs wrote:
Garden's Extra
There are some notes that slightly touch the HP bar. You might want to move them lower a bit. 01:12:418 (6) - , 01:14:025 (3,4) - , 01:20:320 (2) - . ok sure
00:10:292 (1,2,3,4,5) - Even for the last combo on the calm part, I think it deserve a similar pattern like 00:08:685 (1,2,3,4,5) - and the previous parts too since they have a same effect in the song. Yeah I'd expect something like 01:46:704 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - . i still think it deserves some differences here as an ending for this section
01:28:222 (4,5) - Generally, you use the tail-head overlap for this kind of extend slider in the whole diff. So I wonder why did you make it different here. make it consistent now

@MaridiuS fair points, actually I do take that in mind while mapping it, but the thoughts that the whole kiai should be similarly impactful (which drumbeats indicate) becomes dominant later.. so I'm going to make some modification towards the emphasis in my difficulty.

Kisses wrote:
Garden
00:18:311 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Im not sure I get the logic with mapping these as triangles like 00:19:115 (1,2,3) - when the sounds are really different. Also 00:18:311 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - circles don't really fit the music imho fixed
00:24:740 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^
00:56:088 (1,2) - curved sliders would be better imo. Red anchors don't really fit in with the rest of the map. Same with 01:01:704 (1) - ok
01:41:079 (3,4,5) - Are you able to get it in a straight line like 00:04:667 (3,4,5) - ? yes

sorry for the late reply and thanks everyone for mod!

@Kyuukai I'll send u the update file later when I finish fixing everything a bit later.

Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Shunao 2017-11-21T16:58:29+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Shogun
00:13:490 (1) - For this section i would recommend using a different rhythm since the current just doesn't seem to follow the music as much as I like. how about this https://i.imgur.com/u6DBf1u.png or if you feel the reverse is too hard for an easy then this https://i.imgur.com/dF0BdFg.png
00:45:097 (4) - 2 circles to show contrast with all the other 1/1 sliders
01:24:271 (1) - fix spinner end. Also better to start on the red or white tick imo
01:30:633 (1,2,3) - How about this rhythm? https://i.imgur.com/AxSzKJd.png
01:33:847 (5) - NC

w ~

all fixed, thanks kisses!

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TitleUnicode:in the Garden
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PoNo

504 posts

Joined July 2014

PoNo 2017-11-21T19:05:56+00:00

Fixed everything from kisses mod and blizs

Momochikun

1,944 posts

Joined October 2012

Momochikun 2017-11-22T14:21:11+00:00

Blizs wrote:
sorry for being late

Mochi's Hard
00:24:740 - rasanya agak aneh kalo efek sebesar ini di lagu cuma dikasih slider tail. Rasanya efek besar kayak gini lebih cocok dikasih klik daripada cuma slider tail. Gimana kalo pake pattern yang mirip kayak 00:14:293 (3,1) - ? nah cmn variasi aja kok, fine imo
01:19:383 - Sama kayak di atas tentang efeknya. sama
01:36:659 (4,5) - Gimana kalo circle duluan baru slider ? Biar nangkep jump nya ke 01:37:061 (1) - jadi lebih gampang. ini emg sengaja mau tak bikin susah berhubung ganti part

ok that's all from me!~
GL!

Kisses wrote:
Mochi
Did you have stack leniency 3 so 1/1 gaps are perfectly stacked? yes
00:24:740 - Would be better to have the downbeat clickable imho like you have in the rest of the section nah i'd like to keep this
00:45:365 (5) - 2 circles would be good for mapping the 2 drum sounds nope, there's no place for circle here either
01:31:034 (2,3) - I would suggest to stack these as it flows a lot better and fits in better with the rest of the map. Also I feel like it suits the song better too https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9583291 sure
01:31:034 (2,3) - If you choose not to do the above then doing this would make it at least flow better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9583288
01:48:311 (4) - An NC would give the player a bit more hp before the long spinner added

w ~

thanks

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Kyuukai

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Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-11-22T16:22:53+00:00

All updated !

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-11-23T15:24:36+00:00

Easy and Pono's Insane
End spinner at the same time as the other diffs 01:51:525

Hard
00:45:097 (4) - I think it would fit the song better to have this as a circle as it is the exact same sound as 00:44:829 (3) . And 00:45:097 (4) - doesn't have a sound on the red tick like 00:45:365 (5)

Owen
Maybe hp 5.5? depends if you want it easier or not

Pono
hp 6. (I would accept 5.5 if Owen lowers his)
[]
The things in red you must change

Kyuukai

1,516 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-11-23T16:54:00+00:00

Fixed the end spinners and HP drain on Pono's and Owens' diffs, also updated Momochikun's diff !

jrcrash

92 posts

Joined August 2016

jrcrash 2017-11-27T13:52:43+00:00

Honestly this map is pretty well made. It seems very well made. it has a nice flow... especially Mochi's hard. good job. in all cannot find an error. Shot you a kudosu star!

Doj

232 posts

Joined March 2014

Doj 2017-11-27T16:56:17+00:00

[Hard]

00:24:472 (1) - randomly ending this on the downbeat completely fucks up the way you composed the rhythm

make this into a circle too 00:45:097 (4) -

also song title should be "in the flowerbed" since you cut it

k thx

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2017-11-28T02:39:10+00:00

Doj wrote:
also song title should be "in the flowerbed" since you cut it

Cutting a song doesn't mean I have to change the title unless the modifications are major (remix or smth like that).
I'll keep the original title

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_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-11-28T17:53:09+00:00

Doj wrote:
[Hard]

00:24:472 (1) - randomly ending this on the downbeat completely fucks up the way you composed the rhythm

make this into a circle too 00:45:097 (4) -

I did some talking with mochi and he explained why he did things this way. I passed this information onto Doj myself incase anyone thinks this was skipped

Doj wrote:
also song title should be "in the flowerbed" since you cut it

k thx

Same tbh I totally I agree

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2017-11-28T17:59:49+00:00

peppy wtf

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2017-11-28T23:24:54+00:00

[Shogun's Easy :]

00:21:525 (4,1) - why :c no pls noooooo (overlap sux pls do smth).

[Mochi's Hard :]

00:19:115 (3,4,5) - So this pattern is a bit tricky, because after the reverse you're aim for 00:19:650 (5) - and not 00:19:516 (4) - . Would change reverse direction or swap the two circles.
00:22:329 (3,4) - Spacing should be like you did for 00:25:543 (4,5,6) - or that don't make sense.
00:24:740 - Why making that beat passive? It's like the most important one, you never skipped it before and also ignore the one on 00:24:873 - than you make over a slider and even played with 00:23:132 (1) - .
00:42:418 (1,2) - Why only this one is stacked ? Totally inconsistent with everything here.
01:14:561 (1,2) - Same issue. The stack is not done for any real reason than being random here.

[Endless Sky :]

00:26:012 - Music intensity remain constant here, so spacing should be same to reflect this and staying coherent.

Mukyu~

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2017-11-29T01:11:37+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
[Endless Sky :]
00:26:012 - Music intensity remain constant here, so spacing should be same to reflect this and staying coherent.

Mukyu~

Tried to equalize the distance for thoses 2 jumps 00:25:543 (1,2,1,2) - but I gave that jump 00:26:079 (1,2) - a higher DS in order to emphasize the end of the section

Momochikun

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Joined October 2012

Momochikun 2017-11-29T02:33:30+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
[Mochi's Hard :]
00:19:115 (3,4,5) - So this pattern is a bit tricky, because after the reverse you're aim for 00:19:650 (5) - and not 00:19:516 (4) - . Would change reverse direction or swap the two circles.it's not that tricky, swapping the position of two circles and making anti jumps would be even more tricky imo.
also i dislike changing slider shape or anything
00:22:329 (3,4) - Spacing should be like you did for 00:25:543 (4,5,6) - or that don't make sense. it does, at this part i make a jump at 00:22:329 (3,4) - and not at 00:22:865 (5,1) - while this one i did a jump at 00:26:079 (6,1) - ?
00:24:740 - Why making that beat passive? It's like the most important one, you never skipped it before and also ignore the one on 00:24:873 - than you make over a slider and even played with 00:23:132 (1) - . it's not like downbeat being covered by slider end is passive or bad doesn't it
00:42:418 (1,2) - Why only this one is stacked ? Totally inconsistent with everything here. i don't know that i need any special reason to stack something though, it is really an issue after all ? if there're no complaints for 1/1 stack why there're complaints for 1/2 one ? i dont know actually
01:14:561 (1,2) - Same issue. The stack is not done for any real reason than being random here.
Mukyu~

I tried my best to explain stuff :dddd
any further argue would lead-in to kyuukai fixing everything though
~~i dislike arguing or drama~~

Shunao

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Joined February 2016

Shunao 2017-11-29T08:52:17+00:00

fixed!

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 57619
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.7
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 0.9

[Metadata]
Title:in the Garden
TitleUnicode:in the Garden
Artist:Primary
ArtistUnicode:Primary
Creator:Kyuukai
Version:Shogun's Easy
Source:
Tags:yuiko yuikonnu album Meis Clauson shogunmoon yaleufeu owens pono ponoyoshi momochikun
BeatmapID:1351693
BeatmapSetID:629217

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:2
CircleSize:2.3
OverallDifficulty:2
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:0.699999999999999
SliderTickRate:1

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//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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259,97,103490,6,0,P|332:118|407:83,1,157.500006008148,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
490,64,104561,2,0,L|486:124,1,52.5000020027161,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
430,186,105097,2,0,L|441:349,1,157.500006008148,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,358,106168,2,0,L|293:353,1,52.5000020027161,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
223,305,106704,6,0,P|191:238|109:225,1,157.500006008148,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
33,185,107775,2,0,P|35:158|39:128,1,52.5000020027161,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,64,108311,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,108445,12,0,111525,0:0:0:0:

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2017-11-29T19:38:19+00:00

Fixed 00:24:740 - 00:42:418 (1,2) - 01:14:561 (1,2) - issues

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2017-11-29T20:11:21+00:00

I don't like french tbh.

Also Momochikun I'm not into drama either, but sometimes you have to fix weird and incoherent stuff in you want to keep a minimum of quality content on this game.
Desu wa~

jeanbernard8865

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jeanbernard8865 2017-11-29T20:15:53+00:00

i am saving that patchouli

Nikakis

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Nikakis 2017-11-29T22:44:16+00:00

~Hello Kyuukai

I've found some stacking issues on the last difficulty which are really minor but should be considered in case you want it to be fully polished:

00:22:731 (2) -
00:32:775 (1) -
00:34:248 (6) - blanket is off by 2-3 pixels
00:34:784 (9) -
00:42:150 (6) -
00:46:972 (5,6) -
00:49:918 (4) -
00:58:758 (2) -
01:09:740 (1) -
01:10:275 (4) -
01:11:615 (2) -
01:14:025 (1) -
01:17:240 (1) -
01:17:374 (2) -
01:24:472 (2) -
01:25:275 (5) -
01:25:543 (6) - with 01:26:213 (3) -
01:31:972 (3) -

In fact, I'm not really sure if some of them were intentional or not.If not, then a quick look from a QAT member should be considered to do a temporary disqualification.

anna apple

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anna apple 2017-11-29T23:13:06+00:00

polishing is for bitches

Senko-san

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Senko-san 2017-11-29T23:13:39+00:00

AyanokoRin wrote:
i am saving that patchouli

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2017-11-29T23:51:31+00:00

Nikakis wrote:
~Hello Kyuukai

I've found some stacking issues on the last difficulty which are really minor but should be considered in case you want it to be fully polished:

00:22:731 (2) -
00:32:775 (1) -
00:34:248 (6) - blanket is off by 2-3 pixels
00:34:784 (9) -
00:42:150 (6) -
00:46:972 (5,6) -
00:49:918 (4) -
00:58:758 (2) -
01:09:740 (1) -
01:10:275 (4) -
01:11:615 (2) -
01:14:025 (1) -
01:17:240 (1) -
01:17:374 (2) -
01:24:472 (2) -
01:25:275 (5) -
01:25:543 (6) - with 01:26:213 (3) -
01:31:972 (3) -

In fact, I'm not really sure if some of them were intentional or not.If not, then a quick look from a QAT member should be considered to do a temporary disqualification.

Does 1 pixel stack difference really makes the difference ? I mean, people won't see it while playing the map, and they are nearly not visible in the editor xd

Nikakis

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Nikakis 2017-11-30T00:21:51+00:00

Well, circles may be not that visibly off, but some stacking sliders were openly off for my eye.I'm aware that players won't even notice these but, shouldn't you as a mapper give the 100% of your quality content and not the 99,9% :') ? I know it would totally suck to disqualify your mapset just for some silly pixels but as i said shouldn't be better to slightly polish it even more?That's my takeout for this subject, it's up to you not me.

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2017-11-30T00:56:48+00:00

Nikakis wrote:
Well, circles may be not that visibly off, but some stacking sliders were openly off for my eye.I'm aware that players won't even notice these but, shouldn't you as a mapper give the 100% of your quality content and not the 99,9% :') ? I know it would totally suck to disqualify your mapset just for some silly pixels but as i said shouldn't be better to slightly polish it even more?That's my takeout for this subject, it's up to you not me.

It's pointless to make such changes a this point, it does not improve the map's quality significantly and is overall a waste of time.

Hazu-

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Hazu- 2017-11-30T01:00:09+00:00

Gratzzzzzz :4

tatemae

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tatemae 2017-11-30T08:27:55+00:00

!! gratz

anna apple

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anna apple 2017-12-02T00:03:52+00:00

Kyuukai wrote:
It's pointless to make such changes a this point, it does not improve the map's quality ~~significantly~~ at all and is overall a waste of time.

Azer

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Azer 2017-12-02T00:04:09+00:00

why the fuck are bns ranking maps that contain keysounds with the wrong note if you're gonna keysound at least USE THE RIGHT NOTES WTF

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2017-12-02T00:22:49+00:00

Azer wrote:
why the fuck are bns ranking maps that contain keysounds with the wrong note if you're gonna keysound at least USE THE RIGHT NOTES WTF

I don't think it's "wrong", the keysounding fits pretty well to the song imo, each keysound follows the intensity of the singer and the song.
Maybe you wanted some piano keysounding instead of xylophone keysounding

-sandAI

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-sandAI 2017-12-02T01:49:20+00:00

Kyuukai wrote:
Azer wrote:
why the fuck are bns ranking maps that contain keysounds with the wrong note if you're gonna keysound at least USE THE RIGHT NOTES WTF
I don't think it's "wrong", the keysounding fits pretty well to the song imo, each keysound follows the intensity of the singer and the song.
Maybe you wanted some piano keysounding instead of xylophone keysounding

I don't think keysounding has anything to do with the intensity of the singer or song at all...?

The parts that don't match correctly don't even have any singing in it anyways

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2017-12-02T01:52:15+00:00

-Vanilla wrote:
I don't think keysounding has anything to do with the intensity of the singer or song at all...?

The parts that don't match correctly don't even have any singing in it anyways

I personally think it fits to the song, sorry if you don't like it

Lasse

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Lasse 2017-12-02T09:25:42+00:00

did you map top diff at cs 4 and lower cs later lol
it just feel extremely cramped in so many spots...

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2017-12-02T11:58:47+00:00

Lasse wrote:
did you map top diff at cs 4 and lower cs later lol
it just feel extremely cramped in so many spots...

Was supposed to be cs 3.6 at first, but I lowered the CS after many updates because I found it better to play at 3.4

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