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Fruits Basket - Reason Of Quibble

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Niva
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3,196 posts
Joined November 2009
Niva
-Overall-
Remove "fruits baskets" from the tags, because it is already in the source.
Add a preview point.

-Kinda Easy-
01:31:807 (1) - I dislike the last tick in this slider... But, uh, without the tick it doesn't fit the music. Well, your call to change it or not.

-Normal-
Where's the source?
00:55:140 (1) - 19 combos are somewhat too long for normal.

-Hard-
Add the missing source.
00:25:141 (x) - Add a beat?
01:00:140 (1) - Make it symmetrical

Oh, and if you need people to judge, try to post your map in someone's modding queue here: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewforum.php?f=60. Star, because I love the hitsounds.
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yuckothegreat
19 posts
Joined December 2009
yuckothegreat
This is tight map. And the sliders are fun ^^
A few things:

Kinda Easy
00:08:474 - Could this slider possibly go on top of the other circles?
00:55:146 - This spinner is sooooo long.

Hard
1:15:835 - I think it would go more with the music if 5, 7, and 9 were all 1/6 later.
Chacha17
501 posts
Joined April 2009
Chacha17
General

Title: Shouldn't it be Reason of Quibble ?
Artist: I'm pretty doubtful that the artist is not Fruits Basket. It may be the source but artist? Hell no . :X
Source: Shouldn't it be Fruits Basket?
Disable the countdown since it's useless
Tags: ? i'm pretty much sure that you can add something relevant here

I noticed that you didn't use consistent spacing between beats here, so leaving it as is for now. Call me back when you're done resnapping all of the beats.

Kinda Easy - Rename this to Easy please and Hitsounds are too loud imo.
01:31:807 (1) - remove clap and replace with finish

Normal same as Easy, hitsounds are a bit loud.
00:01:183 (1) - this slider is not snapped
00:58:057 (9,10,11,1) - offscreen

Hard
00:01:209 (1,2) - unsnapped
Cyril Scarlet
osu! Alumni
3,877 posts
Joined May 2009
Cyril Scarlet
Just my suggestion ~

　● You need to Re Snap all note
　● Plese set Preview point
　● Add tag anime
　● I think Fruit basket is Anime's title not Artist of this BGM =w=

EASY

00:30:974 (3,4,5) - Far from 2
00:34:307 (6,7,8) - Move for stack with the end of slider(5) is beautiful
00:40:557 (5) - Far from 4
00:43:474 (3) - too close
00:45:141 (5) - far from 4
00:46:807 (6) - too close
01:01:390 (4) - out of screen and spacing wrong



NORMAL

00:19:307 (7,8) - far from 6
00:24:863 (7) - slider is short
00:25:974 (8) - Spacing
00:28:474 (4) - ^
00:31:391 (5) - ^
00:32:641 (7,8,9,10) - ^
00:53:474 (3,4,5) - ^
00:55:140 (1,2,3) - ^ use spacing same with 4~



HARD

00:18:266 (7) - not snap
00:18:995 (1) - I think start at 00:19:099 is better
00:19:099 (1) - finished spit at 00:21:911
00:21:599 (1) - not snap
00:23:370 (6) - ^
00:24:932 (9) - ^
00:30:974 (5,6,7,8) - spacing wrong
00:31:651 (7) - not snap
01:26:390 (6,7,8) - spacing
Backstep
1,007 posts
Joined September 2009
Backstep
This song just relax for me. ^^"

+star
Kilik
36 posts
Joined October 2009
Kilik
Nothing wrong with it to me * 8-)
YoshiOST
57 posts
Joined May 2008
YoshiOST
Slow and quite refined! * sliders don't feel redundant though it was used many times. ;)
bearing019
osu! Alumni
1,367 posts
Joined June 2009
bearing019
This entire mapset needs to be in 1/3. As such, tick rates should be either 3 or 1.

Easy;
AIMod would like a word about your spacing.

Mesage me when you've snapped it to 1/3.
YoshiOST
57 posts
Joined May 2008
YoshiOST

DiamondCrash wrote:

This entire mapset needs to be in 1/3. As such, tick rates should be either 3 or 1.

Easy;
AIMod would like a word about your spacing.

Mesage me when you've snapped it to 1/3.
Are you sure its supposed to be 1/3?
I think its the right snapping but the spacing for easy im not sure.
bearing019
osu! Alumni
1,367 posts
Joined June 2009
bearing019
General;
I suggest you respace everything using grid snap 3.

Easy;
00:24:307 (3) - This has a 1/2 repeat.

Normal;
00:27:641 (2,3) - These end on 1/2s. 1/6th longer thanks.
00:39:099 (10) - Not on 1/3. Move onto the next 1/3.
00:50:349 (4) - ^
00:53:682 (4) - ^
00:56:599 (5) - ^
AND SO ON.
01:13:474 (3) - Repeats are on 1/2s.

Hard;
01:13:474 (3) - This REALLY needs to be on grid snap 3.
There's still some 1/2 notes...
01:21:807 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - All of these end on 1/2s.


Message me when you've got it sorted.
bearing019
osu! Alumni
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Joined June 2009
bearing019
Hard;

01:25:765 (3,4,5) - And
01:27:849 (11,12,13) - These are on 1/2.

Eh, star worthy once you've fixed that. Have it pre-emptively.
Pokie
osu! Alumni
2,630 posts
Joined December 2009
Pokie
Hello~ chameleplace~

[General]
Offset :1790?
Delete .osb file and full-submit. (Becareful of the .osb file :evil:)

[Easy]
Fine.


[Normal]
You can try to add a custom hitsound to replace the green lines (timing sections) next time.

00:33:474 (8) - Hard to see, change the placement?
00:40:141 (1,2) - spacing
00:50:140 (3,4) - change the placement


[Hard]
Wow..lots of green lines, haha. Same with Normal next time~

00:18:057 (6,7,8) - I don't like this.
00:23:474 (7) - no normal-whistle here.
00:28:891 (1) - ^
00:30:141 (4) - ^
00:32:224 (9) - ^
00:31:391 (6,7,8,9) - same as 00:18:057.
00:47:363 (4) - spacing
00:50:140 (3) - no normal-whistle ;_;
01:02:224 (2) - new combo/ fix spacing
01:26:668 (1) - Delete this note.


:roll: star.
Garven
osu! Alumni
5,857 posts
Joined January 2010
Garven
As per your request:

[Easy]
00:08:456 (1) - This first slider was kind of surprising with it's speed since it feels much faster than the snap that the player is getting used to at the start. Maybe try to work one in earlier so it's not as much of a surprise?
00:21:789 (5) - Maybe end this somewhere else that isn't under the slider? That or stack it directly under where the repeat was. The half-way done doesn't look too good.
00:48:456 (1,2,3,4,5) - Check your spacing here. Variable spacing isn't good on an easy.
01:01:372 (4,5,6) - ^
You may want to comb through this difficulty and see what combos you can distance snap. It's a good guide to keep things at least spaced somewhat evenly. I'd also recommend grid level 3.

[Normal]
00:04:289 (7,1) - Spacing
00:27:623 (2) - What? Why that rhythm? It doesn't fit with the straight 1/4s you've been doing up until this point.
00:38:873 (9) - This too. It would fit a lot more if you swung more notes along the way.
00:40:123 (1,2) - Spacing
01:08:299 (4,1) - Aaah, there's some swing. :D
01:13:456 (3) - Okay, that still doesn't fit, even with the swing. :/

[Hard]
00:39:290 (10) - This slider is a bit goofy lookin'
Ah, this is the rhythm I've been wanting~
The map kind of lacks a bit of polish (mostly with sliders), but it's technically fine.
Sallad4ever
2,935 posts
Joined October 2009
Sallad4ever
Sorry I'm really late :(

[General]
- Decrease stack leniency in Easy diff by 3 ticks, the current stack is unrankable
- You don't need anime in tags cause anime is already in genre
- There are 2 custom hitsound on the folder, if you're not gonna use it then delete it and full submit
- If you still wondering how to use it then...
SPOILER
- To use custom hitsound just check the "custom override" box in the Timing and Control point panel (F6) Audio tab, Custom Override 1 is for normal-hitnormal, normal-hitwhistle, etc and Custom Override 2 is for normal-hitnormal2, normal-hitwhistle2, etc
- Also the custom override are used along with the timing section, so if you want some certain part of the song to use the custom hitsound, put inherited timing section on that part with the Custom Override checked
- The normal slider slide sound isn't good, please silent it or change it to soft slider slide cause it sounds better with that
- Put Fruits Basket in the Source not in the artist, unfortunately I can't find who arrange this so I can't help you with the artist name
- Always check AImod to see if there are any unsnapped objects or any too close/too far spacing (unless it was a jump)

[Easy]
1.4 slider velocity is too fast for easy diff, better decrease it to 1 slider velocity
if you decide to decrease it you must fix all the slider and the spacing in this diff
01:05:539 (5,6) - ups...the spacing is quite far you should fix it

[Normal]
There is one unsnapped object in this diff, Re-snap all notes
00:14:289 (4) - spacing is too far
00:27:623 (2) - snapped it to 1/3 and then add another repeat just like in 00:56:372 (4)
00:38:873 (9) - ^
01:24:601 (3) - snapped this to 1/3
Combo mod
SPOILER
I suggest you to start the new combo when the trumpet? start and finish the combo when it end.That said your combo should be
00:15:539 (1) - remove NC (new combo)
00:15:956 (2) - NC
00:19:289 (6) - ^
00:20:123 (1) - remove NC
00:22:206 (1) - ^
00:22:623 (7) - NC
00:25:956 (7) - ^
00:26:789 (1) - remove NC
00:28:873 (1) - ^
00:29:289 (7) - NC
That's the pattern, because the music is repeating you could repeat the same combo pattern again until the end
Timing Section mod
SPOILER
00:12:01 - put this timing section to the previous blue tick, this is to avoid the normal slider slide sound to appear
00:13:68 - ^
00:12:84 - unneeded timing section cause it has the same setting as the previous timing section, delete it
00:14:51 - ^

[Hard]
use grid level 3 and then check the spacing
like in
00:18:317 (7,8)
00:25:123 (10)
00:31:651 (7)
00:46:790 (1)
00:47:206 (3,4,5,6)
And many others some of them are too small, but might as well check it
Combo mod
SPOILER
You can follow the same pattern as in hard
Timing section
SPOILER
wow so many inherited timing section, because there are so many of them you have to be careful from something like this 00:39:290 (10)
Notice that the normal slider slide is still there. To fix this just put the timing section right on the repeat because you won't misstimed hit the slider repeat even for 1ms (unless you completely miss it)

umm this turn out to be very long essay :o
Good Luck :D
iDwarf
1,202 posts
Joined February 2010
iDwarf
~Overall~
  1. Preview points must be on same position on all difficulties.
  2. Add 1 second lead-in on all diffs.
~Easy~
  1. Make Circles bigger.
  2. 00:51:789 (5) - New combo.
~Normal~
  1. Make Circles bigger.
Rest is fine. Very nice.
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure

Sallad4ever wrote:

Sorry I'm really late :(


- If you still wondering how to use it then...
SPOILER
- To use custom hitsound just check the "custom override" box in the Timing and Control point panel (F6) Audio tab, Custom Override 1 is for normal-hitnormal, normal-hitwhistle, etc and Custom Override 2 is for normal-hitnormal2, normal-hitwhistle2, etc
- Also the custom override are used along with the timing section, so if you want some certain part of the song to use the custom hitsound, put inherited timing section on that part with the Custom Override checked
ok thnx but how about putting the hitsound itself?

Thnx Midget, Garven, and Sallad.
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure
Everything is fine! start checking, modding, etc. now!!
choche_old
135 posts
Joined January 2010
choche_old
Hi! I'm going to start with the mod

Things you must do
Suggestions (If you don't agree with me, you don't have to change it)

[General]

Really nice, I think I won't be able to mod this O.o

[Easy]

No problems, really nice ;)

[Normal]

No problems too.

[Hard]

Perfect ;)

Sorry, i couldn't mod this :S but is perfect!! Good Luck

*star*
Kert
2,083 posts
Joined June 2009
Kert
[General]
The right offset is 1819. After changing it in every difficulty, resnap all notes and look through them to become sure everything is all right.

[Easy]
00:18:456 (4) - Can you make it look a bit more cute? :3

[Normal]
Hitsounds are loud for me.. I suggest to decrease volume
00:50:539 (4) - 1 grid up?

[Hard]
The same thing about volume
01:22:206 (1) - remove new combo

Star
lovhin456
1,959 posts
Joined December 2008
lovhin456
Hi ~

General;
- Preview time is not the same in all diff, open each diff in notepad and fix ~
- Ehhh...are you sure the artist is Fruits Basket...that should be the Source, also...no tags ??

Easy;
- 00:23:485 >> move 2 grids right
- 00:33:902 >> new combo
- 00:39:735 >> ^
- 00:53:485 >> 1 grid left
- 00:55:151 >> silence this spinner except for the end
- 01:28:068 >> 4 grids up
- 01:31:818 >> this slider...I don't know...it sounds weird too me...but oh well ~

Normal;
- The last 3 notes, sliders sound weird to me...~

Hard;
- I can't really mod hard, sorry :(

* Star ~
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure

lovhin456 wrote:

Hi ~

General;
- Preview time is not the same in all diff, open each diff in notepad and fix ~
- Ehhh...are you sure the artist is Fruits Basket...that should be the Source, also...no tags ??

Easy;
- 00:23:485 >> move 2 grids right
- 00:33:902 >> new combo
- 00:39:735 >> ^
- 00:53:485 >> 1 grid left
- 00:55:151 >> silence this spinner except for the end
- 01:28:068 >> 4 grids up
- 01:31:818 >> this slider...I don't know...it sounds weird too me...but oh well ~

Normal;
- The last 3 notes, sliders sound weird to me...~

Hard;
- I can't really mod hard, sorry :(

* Star ~
Everything is done but the normal mod seems unnecessary and I cant find the artist no matter what.
James2250
osu! Alumni
4,059 posts
Joined July 2008
James2250
From what I can see from google the artist is Ritsuko Okazaki
I guess move Fruits Basket to source?
(do not take this as 100%, I would put it for now but change it if someone can find a better answer. I am sure one of the BAT's can confirm)

delete osb file and do full submit
make sure all tags are the same
the offset on hard is different than the other 2, make them all the same and resnap
there is a countdown on normal and hard but not on easy, make it all the same
try and keep combo's following the same pattern

Easy:
00:07:652 (4) - why break the clap pattern by putting a whistle here?
00:33:902 (1) - remove new combo
00:35:985 (1,2,3) - keep spacing equal
00:39:735 (5,6) - align
00:51:818 (1) - remove new combo for consistency
01:25:151 (1) - ^

Normal:
00:03:485 (5) - new combo to stick with others
00:32:652 (6) - new combo
00:35:568 (1) - remove new combo
00:35:985 (2) - new combo
00:45:985 (8) - ^
00:58:485 (1) - remove new combo
00:59:318 (9) - new combo
map looks ok

Hard:
will leave it up to you to make sure all the combo's follow a pattern in this one, don't want to try and make a big list or anything
hitsounds work fine

*star*
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure

James2250 wrote:

From what I can see from google the artist is Ritsuko Okazaki Check..
I guess move Fruits Basket to source? Check..
(do not take this as 100%, I would put it for now but change it if someone can find a better answer. I am sure one of the BAT's can confirm)

delete osb file and do full submit Check..
make sure all tags are the same Check..
the offset on hard is different than the other 2, make them all the same and resnap Check..
there is a countdown on normal and hard but not on easy, make it all the same Check..
try and keep combo's following the same pattern

Easy:
00:07:652 (4) - why break the clap pattern by putting a whistle here? Check..
00:33:902 (1) - remove new combo Check..
00:35:985 (1,2,3) - keep spacing equal Check..
00:39:735 (5,6) - align Check..
00:51:818 (1) - remove new combo for consistency Check..
01:25:151 (1) - ^ Check..

Normal:
00:03:485 (5) - new combo to stick with others
00:32:652 (6) - new combo
00:35:568 (1) - remove new combo
00:35:985 (2) - new combo
00:45:985 (8) - ^
00:58:485 (1) - remove new combo
00:59:318 (9) - new combo
map looks ok hopefully all check....

Hard:
will leave it up to you to make sure all the combo's follow a pattern in this one, don't want to try and make a big list or anything
hitsounds work fine

*star*
Thanks!
Arusha Shuna
1,793 posts
Joined August 2009
Arusha Shuna
Request Accepted

Easy
01:31:818 (1) - add finish
Normal
use circle size of 2 instead of 3? it's normal and have some small 1/3 slider streams but w/e
01:31:809 (1) - add a finish at the beginning of the slider
Hard
this is clearly needs to be renamed to "Insane"
00:59:865 (5) - very minor spacing issue
01:10:837 (8) - move this slider to the next white tick and shorten it by 1/3 beat
01:31:810 (2) - add a finish at the beginning of the slider

not bad
STAR!
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure

Arusha Shuna wrote:

Request Accepted

Easy
01:31:818 (1) - add finish
Normal
use circle size of 2 instead of 3? it's normal and have some small 1/3 slider streams but w/e
01:31:809 (1) - add a finish at the beginning of the slider
Hard
this is clearly needs to be renamed to "Insane"
00:59:865 (5) - very minor spacing issue
01:10:837 (8) - move this slider to the next white tick and shorten it by 1/3 beat
01:31:810 (2) - add a finish at the beginning of the slider

not bad
STAR!
thanks, all fixed :D
Faust
osu! Alumni
4,785 posts
Joined January 2009
Faust
Generally, there really isn't much to pick on for your mapset. It wasn't overmapped, but wasn't lacking either. Maybe kiai time for the sections you want to let shine, if you had forgotten. Quite a sound mapset in my opinion.

Insane: I only have words for this difficulty, here goes.

- Increase the circle size.
- Lower the volume of the Normal Hitsounds.
- 01:17:504 - You could arrange this circle better.
- 01:31:810 - I wouldn't recommend sliders for such a part. Try using circles with a more tangible spacing.
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure

Faust wrote:

Insane: I only have words for this difficulty, here goes.

- Increase the circle size.
- Lower the volume of the Normal Hitsounds.
- 01:17:504 - You could arrange this circle better.
- 01:31:810 - I wouldn't recommend sliders for such a part. Try using circles with a more tangible spacing.
All done....
wmfchris
osu! Alumni
5,072 posts
Joined March 2008
wmfchris
[insane]
0:14:310 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) spacing not enough, (2) right 1 grid, (3) right 2 grid, etc. or maybe you'll need another arrangment
0:30:143 (4) spacing, up 1 grid
0:33:476 (1) right 1 grid, (2,3,...) follows

what s relaxing song~ XD

star
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure

wmfchris wrote:

[insane]
0:14:310 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) spacing not enough, (2) right 1 grid, (3) right 2 grid, etc. or maybe you'll need another arrangment
0:30:143 (4) spacing, up 1 grid
0:33:476 (1) right 1 grid, (2,3,...) follows

what s relaxing song~ XD

star
All done and thanks!
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
3,785 posts
Joined June 2009
NoHitter
General
Increase the volume.

Easy
00:55:142 (1) - Really feels out of place. Almost as if it was just put there to fill the space.
01:31:809 (1,2,3) - Newer players will get confused with the sudden 1/3 snap. Make it into a slider instead.

Normal
00:48:476 (2) - Spacing

Insane
I don't not like how you mapped this. The patterns look so randomly made >.>
00:09:310 (4) - Covers up the (2) of the next combo, and makes (2) slightly unreadable.
00:29:726 (2) - Spacing
00:39:310 (10) - ^
00:50:976 (4) - ^
01:13:337 (5,1) - Horrible looking overlap
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure

NoHItter wrote:

General
Increase the volume.

Easy
00:55:142 (1) - Really feels out of place. Almost as if it was just put there to fill the space.
01:31:809 (1,2,3) - Newer players will get confused with the sudden 1/3 snap. Make it into a slider instead.

Normal
00:48:476 (2) - Spacing

Insane
I don't not like how you mapped this. The patterns look so randomly made >.>
00:09:310 (4) - Covers up the (2) of the next combo, and makes (2) slightly unreadable.
00:29:726 (2) - Spacing
00:39:310 (10) - ^
00:50:976 (4) - ^
01:13:337 (5,1) - Horrible looking overlap
Thanks for the mod. Everything hopefully done.
TheVileOne
osu! Alumni
8,436 posts
Joined March 2010
TheVileOne
Relaxing

00:16:809 (3) - Move this left with distance snap on to fix the spacing.

00:18:476 (4) - Reapply distance snap to this note to and move left some to line it up better with the note before it.

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/25569

00:22:643 (1,2) - These should be farther away from 00:21:809 (5) - . You can fix it by moving them 4 units to the right and 1 unit down so that the horizontal line is between the notes. (Use DS)

The rest of the notes will need to be adjusted spacewise to make up for this. Move 00:24:309 (3) - down 1 unit. Then move 00:25:143 (4,5) - 2 units and it fixed the spacing discrepancies.

00:31:393 (4,5) - Too close? 00:31:809 (5,1,2,3,4) - Move these up 1 unit. After that move 00:35:976 (1) - according to distance snap so that it is on the vertical line. After that align all four of those white sliders better.

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/25571

01:10:142 (2) - I think this looks better moved down 2 units.

01:11:809 (3,4) - Move up 2 units?

Novice

00:04:309 (3,1,2,3) - I highly suggest you make this more squarish. It will fix the spacing discrepancies.

How to do so

Move 00:05:143 (1) - right and up 1 unit.
00:05:559 (2) - Move up 1 unit.
00:05:976 (3) - Move down 3 units. (If I'm wrong, just make sure that the distance between the end of 00:04:309 (3) - and this note is the same as the distance of the other notes in the square/diamond pattern.
Finally reapply the distance snap to 00:06:393 (4,1,2) - to fix up the spacings.
SPOILER


00:38:893 (8) - Extra repeats sound terrible and don't go with the beat. If anything turn on the 1/4th snap and have it repeat on the red tick. Please make it sound better by adding inherited section to both sides of the repeat. Have one silence the volume for the repeats and the other to bring the volume back to normal.

00:48:059 - Add note here? Have the pattern reverse back into the next note. It would conform with the pattern here 00:50:559 (7,8,1) -. Don't do it if you don't like it.

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/25575

00:56:392 (4) - repeat on red tick?

00:58:476 (8) - Remove one repeat (This could be an alternative to repeating on the red tick. It doesn't land exactly where the noise does, but it fits.

01:22:642 (2) - Please make this reverse on the red tick and silence the reverser.

01:32:503 (2,3) - Move right in accordance to distance snap.

Zodiac Trick

00:03:059 (4,5) - 1/3rd is weird. Please don't make an already hard to recognize spacing, ever harder by blurring the distance snap.

00:25:004 (5,6) - Move up 1 unit. (Aestetics)

00:41:810 (11,1,2) - bleh I don't like this. I feel that it shouldn't be stacked. The way you've been placing them before plays a lot better. I'll leave the decision up to you though.

01:14:032 (2) - Delete. It sounds like the pattern goes 2 2.
01:16:532 (4) - ^





No big issues. Star.
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure

TheVileOne wrote:

Relaxing

00:16:809 (3) - Move this left with distance snap on to fix the spacing. Fixed

00:18:476 (4) - Reapply distance snap to this note to and move left some to line it up better with the note before it. Fixed

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/25569

00:22:643 (1,2) - These should be farther away from 00:21:809 (5) - . You can fix it by moving them 4 units to the right and 1 unit down so that the horizontal line is between the notes. (Use DS) Fixed but I dont know how to use my DS for this.

The rest of the notes will need to be adjusted spacewise to make up for this. Move 00:24:309 (3) - down 1 unit. Then move 00:25:143 (4,5) - 2 units and it fixed the spacing discrepancies. Fixed

00:31:393 (4,5) - Too close? 00:31:809 (5,1,2,3,4) - Move these up 1 unit. After that move 00:35:976 (1) - according to distance snap so that it is on the vertical line. After that align all four of those white sliders better. Probably fixed. I have to check in case.

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/25571

01:10:142 (2) - I think this looks better moved down 2 units. Fixed

01:11:809 (3,4) - Move up 2 units? Fixed

Novice

00:04:309 (3,1,2,3) - I highly suggest you make this more squarish. It will fix the spacing discrepancies. Fixed

How to do so

Move 00:05:143 (1) - right and up 1 unit.
00:05:559 (2) - Move up 1 unit.
00:05:976 (3) - Move down 3 units. (If I'm wrong, just make sure that the distance between the end of 00:04:309 (3) - and this note is the same as the distance of the other notes in the square/diamond pattern.
Finally reapply the distance snap to 00:06:393 (4,1,2) - to fix up the spacings.
SPOILER


00:38:893 (8) - Extra repeats sound terrible and don't go with the beat. If anything turn on the 1/4th snap and have it repeat on the red tick. Please make it sound better by adding inherited section to both sides of the repeat. Have one silence the volume for the repeats and the other to bring the volume back to normal.

00:48:059 - Add note here? Have the pattern reverse back into the next note. It would conform with the pattern here 00:50:559 (7,8,1) -. Don't do it if you don't like it.

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/25575

00:56:392 (4) - repeat on red tick?

00:58:476 (8) - Remove one repeat (This could be an alternative to repeating on the red tick. It doesn't land exactly where the noise does, but it fits.

01:22:642 (2) - Please make this reverse on the red tick and silence the reverser.

01:32:503 (2,3) - Move right in accordance to distance snap.

Zodiac Trick

00:03:059 (4,5) - 1/3rd is weird. Please don't make an already hard to recognize spacing, ever harder by blurring the distance snap.

00:25:004 (5,6) - Move up 1 unit. (Aestetics)

00:41:810 (11,1,2) - bleh I don't like this. I feel that it shouldn't be stacked. The way you've been placing them before plays a lot better. I'll leave the decision up to you though.

01:14:032 (2) - Delete. It sounds like the pattern goes 2 2.
01:16:532 (4) - ^





No big issues. Star.
Bla.... all fixed
IceBeam
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IceBeam
So relaxing music,I like it.

[Relaxing]
00:51:809 (1) - It's too far,fix distance.

[Novice]
I can't understand diff's name.I'd changed Relaxing to Novice.
00:45:976 (1) - It's too long to add a whistle on the whole slider,sounds weird.
00:54:726 (5) - Add a note? No,really,add it,it needs to finish previous rhytm.
01:22:642 (2) - I wonder if you really need the last repeat,if yes,then make a Reverse Selection.

[Zodiac Trick]
It's so easy to overmap such kind of music,but technically it looks fine.
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure

SadKangaroo wrote:

So relaxing music,I like it. Thanks, even if everyone says that.....

[Relaxing]
00:51:809 (1) - It's too far,fix distance. Fixed

[Novice]
I can't understand diff's name.I'd changed Relaxing to Novice. Relaxing changed to Novice, Novice changed to Junior.
00:45:976 (1) - It's too long to add a whistle on the whole slider,sounds weird. Removed
00:54:726 (5) - Add a note? No,really,add it,it needs to finish previous rhytm. Arranged and fixed. May need to recheck...
01:22:642 (2) - I wonder if you really need the last repeat,if yes,then make a Reverse Selection. Fixed....

[Zodiac Trick]
It's so easy to overmap such kind of music,but technically it looks fine.
Dragvon
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Dragvon
Sorry for taking so much time, i had no internet connection with my main pc these days :3

Hi there~
Queue response: Normal Mod

Info
Suggestions! It's up to you!
Problems! You should take a look at these.
Errors! Please fix those.

<General>
• I've received an empty .osb, please delete it and full submit :3

<Novice>
• All fine.
Comments: Well, it's a pretty simple and easy diff. Fine for new players :3

<Junior>
Hmm looks fine but...
Comments: This diff is fine for a normal, but i think your spacing and new combo markers are a bit weird. Try rechecking some of them :3

<Zodiac Trick>
• Combo Markers: I think some markers such as 00:03:476 (1) - are fine since they have a jump next to them. But some such as 00:10:143 (1) - are next to streams. Maybe you could switch the last one with the previous (6)~

Comments: Meh, some jumps were kinda weird to me. But it plays fine :3

Good luck! Have a star~
Shiro
Global Moderator
4,984 posts
Joined May 2009
Shiro
Sorry for the late mod. I have been very busy lately, and it's not going to be any better in the weeks to come.

Modding legend:

Unrankable.
Major issues in the map: it is highly recommended to fix them.
Minor issue in the map: you don't have to follow them exactly, but I recommend you to.
Suggestions: those are personal opinions, feel free to follow them or not.
Possible fix suggestion.

If there's one black bold line in the whole mod post, I won't star the map. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS DOESN'T MEAN I WILL STAR THE MAP IF THERE IS NO BLACK BOLD LINE. Learn to mathematical implication.

Novice:
First thoughts: You didn't use the custom hitsounds... did you ? Except the sliderticks.
Circle size +1.
00:28:893 (6) - I know you made the spacing slightly wider to stack this with 00:30:143 (2) - but they aren't even stacked properly (use shift to adjust (6) accurately).
00:31:809 (5) - This slider is ugly and plays weird. You should avoid such weird-shaped sliders for an Easy diff.
01:11:809 (3,4) - This overlap doesn't look good.
01:20:142 (7,1) - These are way too far from each other.
01:23:476 (4,5) - Suddenly, the spacing changes from 0,9x to 0,8x in the middle of a combo. Avoid such spacing changes in an Easy diff, and for any diff, make at least the first note spaced differently a new combo.

Junior:
First thoughts: that's more of a Hard than a Normal.
00:56:392 (4) - I don't really understand this slider's rythm.
00:58:476 (8) - ^
00:59:309 (1,2,3) - Slight spacing error - still a spacing error though.
01:00:976 (4,5) - ^
01:22:642 (2) - This slider makes no sense musically, has a surprising number of repeats and is completely silenced except for a few repeats. You better just remove it in my humble opinion (since it makes no sense musically) but if you want to keep it, unsilence it.
01:24:309 (2,3) - Don't silence them either.

Zodiac trick:
First thoughts: The streams made absolutely no sense.
BPM in this one is different from the other diffs by 0,001 bpm. I'm probably just being hyper nazi, but it does make a difference (check the very last tick of the song, you will see it).
00:21:671 (1,2) - Hidden by the 300/100 when the spinner is completed.
00:41:810 (11,1) - Stacked new combos are ugly.
00:44:310 (5) - You can make this slider's shape better if you wanted it to circle (4).
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure

Odaril wrote:

Sorry for the late mod. I have been very busy lately, and it's not going to be any better in the weeks to come.

Modding legend:

Unrankable.
Major issues in the map: it is highly recommended to fix them.
Minor issue in the map: you don't have to follow them exactly, but I recommend you to.
Suggestions: those are personal opinions, feel free to follow them or not.
Possible fix suggestion.

If there's one black bold line in the whole mod post, I won't star the map. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS DOESN'T MEAN I WILL STAR THE MAP IF THERE IS NO BLACK BOLD LINE. Learn to mathematical implication.

Novice:
First thoughts: You didn't use the custom hitsounds... did you ? Except the sliderticks.
Circle size +1.
00:28:893 (6) - I know you made the spacing slightly wider to stack this with 00:30:143 (2) - but they aren't even stacked properly (use shift to adjust (6) accurately).
00:31:809 (5) - This slider is ugly and plays weird. You should avoid such weird-shaped sliders for an Easy diff.
01:11:809 (3,4) - This overlap doesn't look good.
01:20:142 (7,1) - These are way too far from each other.
01:23:476 (4,5) - Suddenly, the spacing changes from 0,9x to 0,8x in the middle of a combo. Avoid such spacing changes in an Easy diff, and for any diff, make at least the first note spaced differently a new combo.

Junior:
First thoughts: that's more of a Hard than a Normal.
00:56:392 (4) - I don't really understand this slider's rythm.
00:58:476 (8) - ^
00:59:309 (1,2,3) - Slight spacing error - still a spacing error though.
01:00:976 (4,5) - ^
01:22:642 (2) - This slider makes no sense musically, has a surprising number of repeats and is completely silenced except for a few repeats. You better just remove it in my humble opinion (since it makes no sense musically) but if you want to keep it, unsilence it.
01:24:309 (2,3) - Don't silence them either.

Zodiac trick:
First thoughts: The streams made absolutely no sense.
BPM in this one is different from the other diffs by 0,001 bpm. I'm probably just being hyper nazi, but it does make a difference (check the very last tick of the song, you will see it).
00:21:671 (1,2) - Hidden by the 300/100 when the spinner is completed.
00:41:810 (11,1) - Stacked new combos are ugly.
00:44:310 (5) - You can make this slider's shape better if you wanted it to circle (4).

All Fixed
Verdisphena
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Joined June 2010
Verdisphena
Zodiac Trick :

00:05:004 (7) - Add a note
00:18:893 (1) - Maybe silence this spinner?
00:25:560 (1) - ^
00:41:671 (12) - Add a note
00:49:171 (9) - ^
01:05:143 (1) - Maybe silence this spinner?
01:09:171 (3) - The slider begins in 01:09:310 and ends in 01:09:726
01:22:087 (2) - Add a note
01:23:337 (5) - Delete the note
01:28:476 (1) - Maybe silence this spinner?

Junior :

Approach Rate +1

00:27:643 (2,3,4,5) - So hard for a normal
00:48:893 (4) - Delete the whistle
00:50:560 (7) - Delete the whistle and clap in 00:50:560 and 00:51:393
00:50:976 (7) - Delete the whistle
00:53:893 (4) - ^
01:22:643 (2) - These hitsounds not match with the music
01:24:310 (2) - ^
01:27:643 (2,3,4) - So hard for a normal
01:28:476 (1) - Maybe silence this spinner?


Novice :

00:28:476 (5) - New combo
01:23:060 (3) - Delete the whistle
01:24:726 (6) - ^
01:26:393 (3) - ^
01:28:060 (5) - ^


That is all ~
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure

Verdisphena wrote:

Zodiac Trick :

00:05:004 (7) - Add a note Done
00:18:893 (1) - Maybe silence this spinner? Done
00:25:560 (1) - ^ Done
00:41:671 (12) - Add a note Done
00:49:171 (9) - ^ Done
01:05:143 (1) - Maybe silence this spinner? Done
01:09:171 (3) - The slider begins in 01:09:310 and ends in 01:09:726 Done
01:22:087 (2) - Add a note Refused
01:23:337 (5) - Delete the note Refused
01:28:476 (1) - Maybe silence this spinner? Done

Junior :

Approach Rate +1 Done

00:27:643 (2,3,4,5) - So hard for a normal Refused.....
00:48:893 (4) - Delete the whistle
00:50:560 (7) - Delete the whistle and clap in 00:50:560 and 00:51:393
00:50:976 (7) - Delete the whistle
00:53:893 (4) - ^
01:22:643 (2) - These hitsounds not match with the music
01:24:310 (2) - ^
01:27:643 (2,3,4) - So hard for a normal
01:28:476 (1) - Maybe silence this spinner? Done


Novice :

00:28:476 (5) - New combo Done
01:23:060 (3) - Delete the whistle
01:24:726 (6) - ^
01:26:393 (3) - ^
01:28:060 (5) - ^


That is all ~
You might wanna recheck for newly added hitsounds.
If you can see this again, i mean.
Verdisphena
4,240 posts
Joined June 2010
Verdisphena

chamelepeace710 wrote:

You might wanna recheck for newly added hitsounds.
If you can see this again, i mean.
no
eldnl
Former osu!catch Champion: 2013
2,930 posts
Joined March 2010
eldnl

Verdisphena wrote:

Zodiac Trick :

00:05:004 (7) - Add a note
00:18:893 (1) - Maybe silence this spinner?
00:25:560 (1) - ^
00:41:671 (12) - Add a note
00:49:171 (9) - ^
01:05:143 (1) - Maybe silence this spinner?
01:09:171 (3) - The slider begins in 01:09:310 and ends in 01:09:726
01:22:087 (2) - Add a note
01:23:337 (5) - Delete the note
01:28:476 (1) - Maybe silence this spinner?

Junior :

Approach Rate +1

00:27:643 (2,3,4,5) - So hard for a normal
00:48:893 (4) - Delete the whistle
00:50:560 (7) - Delete the whistle and clap in 00:50:560 and 00:51:393
00:50:976 (7) - Delete the whistle
00:53:893 (4) - ^
01:22:643 (2) - These hitsounds not match with the music
01:24:310 (2) - ^
01:27:643 (2,3,4) - So hard for a normal
01:28:476 (1) - Maybe silence this spinner?


Novice :

00:28:476 (5) - New combo
01:23:060 (3) - Delete the whistle
01:24:726 (6) - ^
01:26:393 (3) - ^
01:28:060 (5) - ^


That is all ~
picao a mod ops :$

star
Joon
1,359 posts
Joined June 2009
Joon
hi

my modding

[Novice]
fin

[Junior]
00:49:726 (5) - remove clap it awkward
00:59:310 (1) - chagne clap
00:59:726 (2) - chagne finish

[Zodiac Trick]
00:48:893 (8) - remove finish? it awkward
00:52:643 (1) - Start Notes change clap
01:12:643 (3) - add clap
01:15:976 (3) - Start Notes add clap

star
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure

Joon wrote:

hi

my modding

[Novice]
fin

[Junior]
00:49:726 (5) - remove clap it awkward
00:59:310 (1) - chagne clap
00:59:726 (2) - chagne finish

[Zodiac Trick]
00:48:893 (8) - remove finish? it awkward
00:52:643 (1) - Start Notes change clap
01:12:643 (3) - add clap
01:15:976 (3) - Start Notes add clap

star
Thanks. All done.....
Zlew
423 posts
Joined June 2010
Zlew
hi.
AIMOD, MAN!!!
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure

DjUmywalka wrote:

hi.
AIMOD, MAN!!!
uhhh, thanks, ill be waiting for the difficulty, i guess......... :)
Saten
Global Moderator
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Joined August 2010
Saten
Have you tried this? :3

SPOILER

Sakura Hana wrote:

a special service, if your map has stayed on pending/wip for over 7 months and you're not in blacklist feel free to forum PM me and i'll see your map through until it's bubble worthy, if i dont like the song however i'll forum PM you back saying that i don't like the song and sorry orz same rules apply for these maps except the posting restrictions, as they go to my forum inbox and not the queue itself.
This post is not kudosu worthy btw :P
Star~★
Aleks719
osu! Alumni
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Aleks719
Hm. This map is good...

I didn't find anything bad here. Star. And good luck :)
Kamure
735 posts
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Topic Starter
Kamure
thanks Saten-san and Aleks719
DJPop
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Here since the beginning
DJPop
Offset: 143

normal-slidertick2.wav is mute which not allowed, you can use low-volume soft-hitnormal sound instead.


~Novice~
01:06:393 - don't need a break here
01:31:810 (1) - silence the sliderslide using hitsound

~Junior~
Fine.

~Zodiac Trick~
Fine.


+Star
orioncomet
osu! Alumni
2,684 posts
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orioncomet

DJPop wrote:

Offset: 143

normal-slidertick2.wav is mute which not allowed, you can use low-volume soft-hitnormal sound instead.
offset 143 is same with offset which is mapper already has now (1,810) x_x
i mean if you use offset as 143 then you don't need to do any resnap all notes

also about normal-slidertick2.wav used on this map is ok, because mapper use it only on -some part- not for -whole map-
normal-slidertick2.wav on this mapset was used only for -1 slider- on [Novice] diff. i think DJPop is misunderstand something about this.
Kamure
735 posts
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Topic Starter
Kamure
haha, thanks.

I was actually on the verge to letting this graveyard since its a bit old, but thanks.

DJPop wrote:

Offset: 143

normal-slidertick2.wav is mute which not allowed, you can use low-volume soft-hitnormal sound instead.


~Novice~
01:06:393 - don't need a break here Fixed
01:31:810 (1) - silence the sliderslide using hitsound Fixed

~Junior~
Fine.

~Zodiac Trick~
Fine.


+Star

orioncomet wrote:

DJPop wrote:

Offset: 143

normal-slidertick2.wav is mute which not allowed, you can use low-volume soft-hitnormal sound instead.
offset 143 is same with offset which is mapper already has now (1,810) x_x
i mean if you use offset as 143 then you don't need to do any resnap all notes

also about normal-slidertick2.wav used on this map is ok, because mapper use it only on -some part- not for -whole map-
normal-slidertick2.wav on this mapset was used only for -1 slider- on [Novice] diff. i think DJPop is misunderstand something about this.

All fixed and considered.
JoJo
1,177 posts
Joined July 2010
JoJo
Hi~Sorry for my late~>.<~
Here is my poor mod~╮(╯▽╰)╭

[Novice]
Fine to me.

[Junior]

Hmm,really good work...- -||| Nothing I can find..=D
Star~~★~(Of course no kudos...- -)
Go go ranked~!
MoodyRPG
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Joined August 2010
MoodyRPG
starz!
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Topic Starter
Kamure
Thanks u two!
ziin
2,632 posts
Joined January 2010
ziin
With a beatmap this old and with this many stars, there's not much I can do but help get it on the first page. Everything here is a suggestion. The map's pretty good as it is.

[general]
if you're bored and just want to update the map, you can resnap all the timing sections. I don't think it's a problem, but it's there.

[easy]
only nazi stuff not worth fixing

[jr]
I'm a bit disappointed you never tried to map the melody, and just focused on the bass line (yay?) and the rhythm drums (boring)
00:27:643 (2,3,4,5) - :( triplet repeating sliders would be nicer here.

[zodiac]
warning: beat nazi. I'm going to highlight all the notes which I don't hear anything on. Also, I like sliders, so if you throw in a few here and there, I would enjoy the map. Right now it's disappointing, both in difficulty and in rhythm.
00:04:448 (4,5) -
00:07:782 (4,5) -
00:10:282 (3) -
00:11:115 (7,8) -
00:14:448 (3) -
00:14:865 (6) -
00:24:032 (2,3) -
00:32:504 (3,5) -
00:33:615 (2,5,6) -
00:34:448 (2,3,5) -
00:55:143 (1) - check it
00:58:476 (1) - check it
00:59:865 (5) -
01:03:060 (9) - check it
01:04:587 (4) -
01:18:615 (2,3,5,6) -
01:19:310 (7,8) - check them
01:26:115 (6) -
01:26:948 (2,3,5,6,8,9) -
Kamure
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Kamure
Thanks! But I'm gonna pretty much redo the beatmap.... I'll consider your mod though.

If any future mod mods come in, just mod later on.
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