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oh. wow.ProfessionalBox wrote:
Tags : tragic anime top 10 deaths check out my new mixtape at http://www.vinxisgya.com/mixtapes/lit/ProfessionalBox
1st Improved Kocari Mod Still got a lot to learn in modding. The song is not my specialty.
Is offset wrong or something? Feels out of place in some areas.
[Boxart Wongline: FOREVER]
TBH it's already good just different ideas coming together not much can be said from me just don't give me kudosu thxs
[Boxart Wongline: FOREVER]
00:52:555 (1) - Doesn't quite reflect where the sound is coming from which is at 00:52:618 - Since there is no true sound on where you placed this slider. It will feel stronger if it was just a single note for the pop sound. Sugg: stacking that single note on the sliderhead of 00:51:899 (2) - would drastically be better than how it was
01:44:305 (2,3,5) - The only part that doesn't seem aesthetically the same as how you've done these triangles looking single patterns
01:44:305 (2,3,5) - The only part that doesn't seem aesthetically the same as how you've done these triangles looking single patterns
TBH it's already good just different ideas coming together not much can be said from me just don't give me kudosu thxs
Topic Starter
where's the undo kudosu buttonKocari wrote:
TBH it's already good just different ideas coming together not much can be said from me just don't give me kudosu thxs
holy fuck im lazyNathan wrote:
i love monika
- [General]
- Meme tags are still there
- On the top diff https://puu.sh/ya0IB/e9dea89a5b.png
- winber's diff doesnt have sb
- [Boxart Dongline: Forever]
- 01:01:930 (1) - The bottom part of this goes off screen
- 03:32:868 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the DS in this stream is kinda all over the place
- [Fanzhen]
- 00:20:493 (2,1,2) - Uhhh I dont think 1 is supposed to be snapped to the 1/8
- 02:04:930 (3,4) - I'd move these to the tail of 02:04:649 (2) - because as it is now the stacking makes this pattern look messed up
- 02:38:868 (1) - 02:41:868 (1) - Ehhh i dont think the spinners work well here, it kind of breaks flow in a very unnatural way and skips over really important sounds that should be clickable
- 02:49:743 (3,4) - The cross screen jump kinda comes out of nowhere here
- [W1]
- 02:24:243 (1,2,3,4) - Having the spacing this low for such an intense part is really underwhelming, I'd increase the spacing at least or just... something more intense.
honestly set is good 2 go
one of my favorite maps of the year, best of luck probox \o/
fier wrote:
00:23:118 (1) - thumbs
00:52:743 (1,2) - are the 1/8 sliderends really needed here? would be better off with just higher sv 1/4s imo ya
00:59:305 (2,2) - these gaps feel pretty empty, maybe make sliders here instead? thats the point
01:36:805 (2,3,4) - bro how am i supposed to know this is a 1/4 jump when the ds changes literally mid pattern, like it's hittable but god damn dude do u want people to kill thesmelf approch circel
01:57:711 (1) - could probably extend this spinner to 01:59:680 - instead i hate extended spinenr
02:00:149 (1,1) - both these ncs aren't necessary agr
02:14:680 (1) - same thing as 00:52:743 (1,2) - idk i don't really find it necessary to just randomly have sliderends on 1/8 ticks despite the entire song not having them at all (if you don't change this at the very least make 02:13:743 (3) - these consistent on ending at 1/8 as well) only wanna keep the 1/8s on the red/tyellow parts cuz they're epic hard
02:15:618 (1,2,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,2,1) - i like the fast-paced slider into a slowdown but literally end yourself for making this part aids to read properly (it's mainly because of the 1/8 sliders) owo
02:23:305 (1) - offscreen sliderend agr
02:49:368 (3) - make this 1/4 slider so it covers the blue tick note pattern kill
02:52:368 (3) - ^ pattern kill
02:53:118 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this spacing increase is pretty drastic tbh lol, i'd space out 02:53:118 (1,2,3,4) - this a bit more so it's not as random i like the contrast
02:54:618 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3) - djpop (also some of these aren't stacked properly, and ncs should probably be on 02:54:618 (1,3,3,3,11) - these notes instead) nc based on grouping and SL0 probox thx
02:58:368 (9) - nc this no
03:21:430 (2,3,1) - why is this not straighta sdfkjagfnkb 12
03:23:868 (6) - would make more sense to nc this, i mean the entire map is a spam of ncs anyway so ???
fixed the restder wrote:
handsome
01:37:555 (2,3,5) - 01:43:555 (2,3,5) - not sure if there's some kind of intention behind not forming triples with these as all other instances do not rly
02:13:180 (2) - could turn this one into notes as to make the difference of missing and existing vocals apparent and additionally hit the synth triple with active rhythms. atm the slider implies that sliders follow the bass hits which the following three sliders don't wanna keep these aprts simple
02:54:899 (2) - 03:01:086 (2) - overmapped note/missing a note between 02:54:618 (1,1) - . in a stack like this you want to follow things clearly, which it currently doesn't as it cuts a quint into a single and a triple.. somehow. deleting the note would make sense with the vocals and adding another note would stick to the synth that also makes up the other 1/4 timings in the stack the whole section before is literally a representation of the rhythm here
02:57:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - why use 1/8 there but not 02:59:118 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -, where the build up reaches towards the climax. if anything i'd assume it to be the other way around or throughout (by which i'd prefere it as non-existent myelf as those sounds don't seem very 1/8 to me) looks c ool
03:13:743 (1,2) - 03:16:743 (1,2) - 03:19:743 (1,2) - 03:22:743 (1,2) - sounds like the object order should be the other way around with nothing of importance being on the slider heads unlike on their tails ????
[quote="FoxyGrandpa"]NeilPerry wrote:
w1:
00:24:243 (2) - why it's mute and strange sv? idk, but i unmuted it, probably due to the fact that i just copy pasted hitsoudns and didn't pay attention
00:59:868 (1,2) - snap sliderends k
01:25:555 (2,3,4) - stacking hide tripple visualisation. make it manual or smthing I dont' particularly see the problem, it's just a classic pure reading pattern
02:07:039 - whistle on sliderend really randomly ok
02:17:493 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - try avoid overlap with sliderend. i catch ur idea that it should be symmetrical with this 02:17:118 (2,3,4,5) - but overlap looks rly weird and confusing hmmm, i actually purposely wanted that overlap, and avoided completely stacking the slide ends. Maybe i'm crazy but there is a certain kind of cohesion with this overlap with the rest of the section imo with the overlap, and also i just like it lol
03:10:180 (4,5,6) - same abt stacking dont' really see a problem with this tbh
03:11:680 (4,5,6) - ^
- [W1]
- 02:24:243 (1,2,3,4) - Having the spacing this low for such an intense part is really underwhelming, I'd increase the spacing at least or just... something more intense. hmmm really? I found this part to be quite relaxing as opposed to the other section. I felt this was a dramatic cool down,
so i aptlly mapped it with smaller spacing, and a stream jump
http://puu.sh/yawIn/768859144b.osu
Deramok wrote:
Nathan's Extra
- 00:02:118 (1) - since 00:01:368 (2) - is quite obviously mapped to vocals, i don't see why that slider should be as long as it is as opposed to ending on a vocal it currently skips fixed
- 00:10:930 (3) - why add this filler note at all if you're even going to mute it i think this was just an accident from probox copying hitsounds or something
- 00:21:618 (1,1,2,3,1,1,2,3) - not really coherent since you swap from mapping vocals to synth in the middle of the pattern. just confuses the focus it's pretty distinct to me, the way I placed the pattern separates the vocals and the synth
- 02:11:868 (1) - i'd add the two notes before this to stick to the instruments and to increase the contrast of the large gaps after it ok
- 02:14:868 (1,2,3) - those sound very off concidering you've been following the vocal for the pattern. sounds more like https://puu.sh/y19Ok/434f66942e.png 02:20:868 (1) - here it works though with the missing extra beat uhh im definitely not following vocals here, i've been focusing on the synth this entire section,
the vocals just happened to be in sync for the first half of this part
NeilPerry wrote:
NathAN's:
01:53:211 - add normal whistle on sliderend for consistency
01:56:211 - same
02:38:868 (3,4) - it shouldnt be perfectly symmetrical?
did all
_83 wrote:
nathan
02:00:618 (1,2) - 02:03:618 (1,2) - 02:03:618 (1,2) - 02:09:618 (1,2) - etc. these are unrankable for now? cuz the slider is completely hidden from previous slider until you are partially through next slider.
unless I'm blind I don't see anything in the rc explicitly stating that this is unrankable, and I think any player with sufficient skill should be able to read it with the context of the map
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Tags:future bass collab probox winber1 handsome sing toybot nathan sukinathan wolves fanzhen fanzhen0019 plaudible hobbes2 tragic anime top 10 deaths check out my new mixtape at www.vinxisgya.com/mixtapes/lit/ProfessionalBox
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Topic Starter
Fixed all I think
Topic Starter
Fixed everything that wasn't mentioned and also fixed everything from foxygrandpa mod on fanzhen diff except the spinner thing. Since I'm replying instead of fanzhen (he can't fix this stuff at the moment) I didn't want to break any gimmicks that I found cool so pardon my responses being "current is fine" etc.Deramok wrote:
from modreq
modded the version before the last update, so some things may not apply anymorefanzhen's Extra
- 00:37:368 (3,4) - maybe ctrl g those to capture the vocal as well. additionall 00:38:868 (3) - could also be ctrl g'd for the accent in the vocals and then the vocalless slider after it and 00:42:243 (4) - also for being vocalless as the only one in the constellation. would be a nice compliance with the later 02:00:243 (4,1,1,1,2) - Imo the current way works just fine
- 01:08:493 (1,2) - insteal of having all four sliders unified, deleting 2 and alowing down 1 would cover the difference in sounds more accurately i think Not distinct enough to need pattern altering
- 01:44:868 (1,2,3) - that double on that really low bg synth seems a bit arbitrary to me since you didn't pay any heed to that synth anyhwere before either It's built in very nicely into the pattern so I won't be breaking that up
- 01:49:930 (3,4,1) - since you're following the low synth with 01:48:618 (1,2,3) - i thin you should stick to it and change up the sliders in the end accordingly https://puu.sh/y18b2/45f6b4a4c8.png No need imo
- 02:40:555 (2) - with 02:37:555 (2) - in pace, it seems quite pointless to have that one be a 1/4 slider too Current is fine
- 03:26:118 (1) - all the sliders of this kind in this stream part have one issue: they put a lot of emphasis on the downbeat notes, which are the least least intense sounds of the part as also indicated by the stream's spacing, so it really doesn't fit to have them split off like that imo. 03:27:618 (1,1,1) - those three arguably have snother sound backing them, but even then, the other ones are even more out of position. Nothing wrong with current way
Deramok: putting a circle there instead doesn't make sense w/ the section's 2 kickslider thing goin on tbh
fix all
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fixed all (hobbes told me to fix for him too)NeilPerry wrote:
Plaudible x Hobbes2 ins:
02:12:055 (2,1) - can u avoid dat pixel overlap cuz of stacking?
02:52:743 (7,8,9) - all 3 sounds very different to be so linealy and even
03:04:649 (6,7,8,9) - ya same with hobbes
https://pastebin.com/z6cv7Rvm
idk if already posted, but there's a bunch of unsnapped stuff in fanzhen's diff; check aimod
mostly slider ends in 01:36:618 - this section
mostly slider ends in 01:36:618 - this section
Elite Mapper
Chat log with daddy triangles
Some fixes will be applied for this later2017-10-31 17:20 Monstrata: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1404440 tofubeats - CANDYYYLAND feat. LIZ (Pa's Lam System Remix) [Boxart Wongline: FOREVER]]
2017-10-31 17:20 Monstrata: are you going to nominate this? lol
2017-10-31 17:20 Sinnoh: unsure
2017-10-31 17:20 Monstrata: '03:10:368 (1,2,3) - make sure they fix stuff like this
2017-10-31 17:21 Monstrata: perfectly overlapped sliders
2017-10-31 17:21 Sinnoh: oshit
2017-10-31 17:21 Monstrata: 00:40:743 (1,1,2,1,2) - etc.
2017-10-31 17:22 Sinnoh: uaa, got too used to them since they were managed well on the other diffs
2017-10-31 17:22 Sinnoh: yeah they're kinda suddon on this one
2017-10-31 17:22 Monstrata: theyre unrankable regardless so rip xP
2017-10-31 17:23 Sinnoh: like this one?
2017-10-31 17:23 Sinnoh: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1186951 Kraus - Pitch Fucker [Extreme: Hysteria]]
2017-10-31 17:23 Monstrata: where ;o
2017-10-31 17:23 Monstrata: unless you mean everywhere
2017-10-31 17:23 Monstrata: then nah
2017-10-31 17:23 Monstrata: those are rankable cuz theres enough time in between overlaps
2017-10-31 17:24 Monstrata: the probox sliders tho theres no time in between sliders
2017-10-31 17:24 Monstrata: to read the path
2017-10-31 17:24 Monstrata: Referring to this rule: When perfectly overlapping two slider bodies, the first slider must be fully faded out before the second slider is fully faded in.
2017-10-31 17:25 Sinnoh: when dsco mentioned it he said that they weren't fully faded out
2017-10-31 17:25 Sinnoh: on his, it was also unrankable
2017-10-31 17:25 Sinnoh: but that's subjective :3c
2017-10-31 17:25 Monstrata: his are fine
2017-10-31 17:26 Monstrata: or, wait
2017-10-31 17:26 Sinnoh: what about the other diffs
2017-10-31 17:27 Monstrata: nah his are fine,
2017-10-31 17:27 Monstrata: (dsco's)
2017-10-31 17:27 Sinnoh: fanzhen 00:36:618 (1) - winber 00:49:930 (1,2) -
2017-10-31 17:27 Monstrata: didnt check other diffs
2017-10-31 17:27 Sinnoh: i felt like they were better managed there a bit
2017-10-31 17:28 Monstrata: yea those are unrankable
2017-10-31 17:28 Sinnoh: nathan 01:30:618 (1) -
2017-10-31 17:28 Monstrata: fanzhen
2017-10-31 17:28 Monstrata: winbers as well
2017-10-31 17:28 Monstrata: Nathan's is fine
2017-10-31 17:28 Sinnoh: welp looks like this set's going nowhere until the RC gets fixed lol
2017-10-31 17:28 Monstrata: cuz its not perfectly overlapping
2017-10-31 17:29 Monstrata: 01:30:618 (1,3) - are not the same slider, and 3 is longer than 1, so its not like the slider is hidden
2017-10-31 17:29 Monstrata: winber's is unranable cuz even tho its a different slider, the second slider is perfectly overlapped by the first
2017-10-31 17:29 Sinnoh: oh 02:12:618 (1,2) -
2017-10-31 17:30 Sinnoh: that's unrankable
2017-10-31 17:31 Monstrata: yea rip that
2017-10-31 17:31 Monstrata: wait for RC to change i guess idk
2017-10-31 17:31 Monstrata: its one of those
2017-10-31 17:31 Monstrata: "my hands are tied" problems
2017-10-31 17:31 Monstrata: nothing you can do even if you want to nominate it
2017-10-31 17:32 Monstrata: unless they change the pattern / use manual stacks
2017-10-31 17:20 Monstrata: are you going to nominate this? lol
2017-10-31 17:20 Sinnoh: unsure
2017-10-31 17:20 Monstrata: '03:10:368 (1,2,3) - make sure they fix stuff like this
2017-10-31 17:21 Monstrata: perfectly overlapped sliders
2017-10-31 17:21 Sinnoh: oshit
2017-10-31 17:21 Monstrata: 00:40:743 (1,1,2,1,2) - etc.
2017-10-31 17:22 Sinnoh: uaa, got too used to them since they were managed well on the other diffs
2017-10-31 17:22 Sinnoh: yeah they're kinda suddon on this one
2017-10-31 17:22 Monstrata: theyre unrankable regardless so rip xP
2017-10-31 17:23 Sinnoh: like this one?
2017-10-31 17:23 Sinnoh: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1186951 Kraus - Pitch Fucker [Extreme: Hysteria]]
2017-10-31 17:23 Monstrata: where ;o
2017-10-31 17:23 Monstrata: unless you mean everywhere
2017-10-31 17:23 Monstrata: then nah
2017-10-31 17:23 Monstrata: those are rankable cuz theres enough time in between overlaps
2017-10-31 17:24 Monstrata: the probox sliders tho theres no time in between sliders
2017-10-31 17:24 Monstrata: to read the path
2017-10-31 17:24 Monstrata: Referring to this rule: When perfectly overlapping two slider bodies, the first slider must be fully faded out before the second slider is fully faded in.
2017-10-31 17:25 Sinnoh: when dsco mentioned it he said that they weren't fully faded out
2017-10-31 17:25 Sinnoh: on his, it was also unrankable
2017-10-31 17:25 Sinnoh: but that's subjective :3c
2017-10-31 17:25 Monstrata: his are fine
2017-10-31 17:26 Monstrata: or, wait
2017-10-31 17:26 Sinnoh: what about the other diffs
2017-10-31 17:27 Monstrata: nah his are fine,
2017-10-31 17:27 Monstrata: (dsco's)
2017-10-31 17:27 Sinnoh: fanzhen 00:36:618 (1) - winber 00:49:930 (1,2) -
2017-10-31 17:27 Monstrata: didnt check other diffs
2017-10-31 17:27 Sinnoh: i felt like they were better managed there a bit
2017-10-31 17:28 Monstrata: yea those are unrankable
2017-10-31 17:28 Sinnoh: nathan 01:30:618 (1) -
2017-10-31 17:28 Monstrata: fanzhen
2017-10-31 17:28 Monstrata: winbers as well
2017-10-31 17:28 Monstrata: Nathan's is fine
2017-10-31 17:28 Sinnoh: welp looks like this set's going nowhere until the RC gets fixed lol
2017-10-31 17:28 Monstrata: cuz its not perfectly overlapping
2017-10-31 17:29 Monstrata: 01:30:618 (1,3) - are not the same slider, and 3 is longer than 1, so its not like the slider is hidden
2017-10-31 17:29 Monstrata: winber's is unranable cuz even tho its a different slider, the second slider is perfectly overlapped by the first
2017-10-31 17:29 Sinnoh: oh 02:12:618 (1,2) -
2017-10-31 17:30 Sinnoh: that's unrankable
2017-10-31 17:31 Monstrata: yea rip that
2017-10-31 17:31 Monstrata: wait for RC to change i guess idk
2017-10-31 17:31 Monstrata: its one of those
2017-10-31 17:31 Monstrata: "my hands are tied" problems
2017-10-31 17:31 Monstrata: nothing you can do even if you want to nominate it
2017-10-31 17:32 Monstrata: unless they change the pattern / use manual stacks
General
01:27:618 (2) - Hitsound should be normal-hitnormal, fits better with other parts like this
The usage of 30% volume in final kiai is pretty low, can you raise it to 40%
Hard
00:13:274 (2) - Inconsistent hitsound
00:43:180 (3,1) - 00:43:930 (3,1) - 00:44:680 (3,1) - There's a lot of spacing variation between these but are the same sound, using more consistent distances would be better.
Unless you're using it as a buildup like the next kiai, then 00:44:680 (3,1) - should also have larger spacing
00:48:993 (1,2) - I think this would be difficult to read for hard. Spacing like 00:49:930 (1,2,3) - is a better option imo
01:02:493 (2,3) - Rotate -3 degrees to fix blanket
02:52:555 (4,1) - This a pretty big jump, move 234 to the right a bit
03:14:868 (3) - Missing hitsounds
Plaubbe's Insane
01:02:868 (1,2) - 🍋
01:48:618 (1) - Usage of whistle in this section is a bit inconsistent at times, just check for consistency
Collab Insane
01:42:618 (1,2) - Using overlaps wasn't used anywhere else, visually inconsistent
02:47:493 (3) - Silent sliderslide
03:04:368 (1) - Missing normal sampleset
03:36:430 (1) - Optional to ctrl-g to give better indication it's a low sv
Nathan
00:09:618 (1,1,2,3,1,1,2,3) - Considering that vocals are on offbeats, this sounds really weird to single tap. Using sliders would make this much easier to follow the weird rhythm
00:24:618 (1,2,3) - Would prefer if this was a stream just so it's a bit more consistent with the next couple parts
Winber1
01:39:618 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Don't keep this pattern. To use that kind of pattern it needs to be built on the whole diff and can't just be thrown in randomly. 01:51:618 (1) - That section completely ignores it too, so putting such extreme emphasis on the vocal before is quite inconsistent.
Fanzhen
00:55:368 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:08:493 (1,2,3,4) - These are really inconsistent with each other, both should use sliders or neither.
01:48:618 (1) - good 4 ctb
02:12:618 (1) - we got rid of burai sliders here
change the name
00:57:618 (1,1,2,1) - This jump is probably a bit larger than it needs to be
02:29:868 (1,2,1,2) - 1/12 was overdoing it so we moved to 1/4 instead
03:10:743 (3) - This was normally followed with a 1/2 slider, sounds odd since it plays identical to all other lyrics which are not as repetitive as this.
03:13:743 (1,2) - I really think this rhythm should be ctrl-g, sounds like main melody is on the slider tail here, and there's no synth on the slider head. Applies for most of this section. Applies for whole section
im pretty sure this is just unrankable on nathan's difficulty 02:00:618 (1,2) -
at least get some opinions on it imo
at least get some opinions on it imo
Sinnoh wrote:
Hard
00:13:274 (2) - Inconsistent hitsound
00:43:180 (3,1) - 00:43:930 (3,1) - 00:44:680 (3,1) - There's a lot of spacing variation between these but are the same sound, using more consistent distances would be better. made 00:43:368 - and 00:44:868 - consistent with each other, kept 00:44:118 - as is because its the start of a new measure
Unless you're using it as a buildup like the next kiai, then 00:44:680 (3,1) - should also have larger spacing
00:48:993 (1,2) - I think this would be difficult to read for hard. Spacing like 00:49:930 (1,2,3) - is a better option imo
01:02:493 (2,3) - Rotate -3 degrees to fix blanket
02:52:555 (4,1) - This a pretty big jump, move 234 to the right a bit i think u meant to the left? moving it to the right would literally make the jump bigger :O
03:14:868 (3) - Missing hitsounds
else others fixed
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I also fixed another small thing at 00:52:743 (1,2) -Sinnoh wrote:
Winber1
01:39:618 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Don't keep this pattern. To use that kind of pattern it needs to be built on the whole diff and can't just be thrown in randomly. 01:51:618 (1) - That section completely ignores it too, so putting such extreme emphasis on the vocal before is quite inconsistent.
I completely disagree with this statement, the entire song heavy focuses on elements of stacking as well as back and forth motion. this whole section here 01:24:618 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - basically has the exact same kind of flow using pure hitcircles, and it gives the player an inclination as to what may come next. The map itself is meant be more reading heavy to begin with. The beginning may be the onyl section where it's a little "dfifferent", but I believe this matches perfectly with most of what the map is trying to accomplish. I changed it slightly to have the sliders not overlapping each other all the time, but the core idea of the pattern is still there.
I don't think the argument about following vocals and what not particularly makes sense here either. the map is a little different than what I usually try to make,
but I was trying to make something cohesive while also being quite varied and unique through each section
http://puu.sh/ybWG0/a96745fb33.osu
didnt change the second, i prefer keeping the high vocal note distinct
osu file format v14
[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
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Title:CANDYYYLAND feat. LIZ (Pa's Lam System Remix)
TitleUnicode:CAND¥¥¥LAND feat. LIZ (Pa's Lam System Remix)
Artist:tofubeats
ArtistUnicode:tofubeats
Creator:ProfessionalBox
Version:Nathan's Extra
Source:
Tags:future bass collab probox winber1 handsome sing toybot nathan sukinathan wolves fanzhen fanzhen0019 plaudible hobbes2
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213,198,193555,6,0,P|173:211|126:213,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,125,193743,2,0,P|41:127|81:140,1,84.0000008010864,2|2,0:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
274,32,193930,5,0,3:0:0:0:
274,32,194024,1,2,0:2:0:0:
274,32,194118,2,0,L|263:133,1,84.0000008010864,6|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
351,210,194305,2,0,L|360:126,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
465,54,194493,2,0,L|454:155,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
274,32,194680,5,2,0:2:0:0:
274,32,194774,1,2,0:2:0:0:
274,32,194868,2,0,L|256:229,1,168.000001602173,2|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
351,210,195149,2,0,L|369:13,1,168.000001602173,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
465,54,195430,2,0,L|455:137,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,3:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
369,343,195618,5,6,3:1:0:0:
369,343,195993,2,0,P|308:327|270:297,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
230,228,196180,2,0,P|213:168|220:120,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
402,172,196368,1,2,1:0:0:0:
369,343,196555,6,0,P|308:327|270:297,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
230,228,196743,2,0,P|213:168|220:120,1,84.0000008010864,2|2,0:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
453,261,196930,5,0,3:0:0:0:
453,261,197024,1,2,0:2:0:0:
453,261,197118,2,0,L|359:252,1,84.0000008010864,6|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
141,302,197305,2,0,L|224:311,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
218,67,197493,2,0,B|227:112|227:112|209:161,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
453,261,197680,5,0,0:2:0:0:
453,261,197774,1,2,0:2:0:0:
453,261,197868,2,0,L|249:238,1,168.000001602173,2|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
141,302,198149,2,0,P|248:283|301:202,1,168.000001602173,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
218,67,198430,2,0,P|184:131|191:173,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,3:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
386,233,198618,6,0,L|376:150,1,84.0000008010864,6|0,3:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
386,233,198993,6,0,L|376:150,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
183,141,199180,2,0,L|100:131,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
218,349,199368,1,2,1:0:0:0:
386,233,199555,6,0,L|376:150,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
183,141,199743,2,0,L|100:131,1,84.0000008010864,2|2,0:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
321,337,199930,5,0,3:0:0:0:
321,337,200024,1,2,0:2:0:0:
321,337,200118,2,0,P|301:290|273:256,1,84.0000008010864,6|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
59,222,200305,2,0,P|109:228|153:220,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,61,200493,2,0,P|269:101|253:143,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
321,337,200680,5,2,0:2:0:0:
321,337,200774,1,2,0:2:0:0:
321,337,200868,2,0,P|301:290|219:201,1,168.000001602173,2|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
59,222,201149,2,0,P|109:228|227:201,1,168.000001602173,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,61,201430,2,0,P|269:101|253:143,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,3:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
211,298,201618,5,6,3:1:0:0:
211,298,201993,2,0,L|298:292,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
127,166,202180,2,0,L|40:160,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
38,316,202368,1,2,1:0:0:0:
211,298,202555,6,0,L|298:292,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
127,166,202743,2,0,L|40:160,1,84.0000008010864,2|2,0:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
132,353,202930,5,0,3:0:0:0:
132,353,203024,1,2,0:2:0:0:
132,353,203118,2,0,B|115:310|115:310|131:249,1,84.0000008010864,6|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
206,123,203305,2,0,B|223:166|223:166|207:227,1,84.0000008010864,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
302,371,203493,2,0,B|285:328|285:328|301:267,1,84.0000008010864,2|2,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
132,353,203680,5,2,0:0:0:0:
132,353,203774,1,2,0:0:0:0:
132,353,203868,2,0,B|115:310|115:310|131:249,1,84.0000008010864,2|2,0:1|0:2,0:0:0:0:
206,123,204055,2,0,B|223:166|223:166|207:227,1,84.0000008010864,2|2,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
302,371,204243,1,8,0:0:0:0:
302,371,204618,5,2,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Sinnoh wrote:
General
01:27:618 (2) - Hitsound should be normal-hitnormal, fits better with other parts like this
The usage of 30% volume in final kiai is pretty low, can you raise it to 40% done for every diff
Plaubbe's Insane
01:48:618 (1) - Usage of whistle in this section is a bit inconsistent at times, just check for consistency copied hitsounds and nothing stood out to me afterwards
Collab Insane
01:42:618 (1,2) - Using overlaps wasn't used anywhere else, visually inconsistent Changed this
02:47:493 (3) - Silent sliderslide silenced body + tail to 5%
03:04:368 (1) - Missing normal sampleset Copied hitsounds
03:36:430 (1) - Optional to ctrl-g to give better indication it's a low sv Unnecessary imo
Fanzhen
00:55:368 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:08:493 (1,2,3,4) - These are really inconsistent with each other, both should use sliders or neither. They are essentially the same as 1/8 sliders play like 1/4 streams so no change
01:48:618 (1) - good 4 ctb agree
change the name rip my genious
00:57:618 (1,1,2,1) - This jump is probably a bit larger than it needs to be I want to argue that it isn't. Imo it fits well and I don't think it needs changing
02:29:868 (1,2,1,2) - 1/12 was overdoing it so we moved to 1/4 instead ye
03:10:743 (3) - This was normally followed with a 1/2 slider, sounds odd since it plays identical to all other lyrics which are not as repetitive as this. I think this being a 1/4 slider here makes sense as the "laaand" isn't as dragged out so I don't want to use a slow slider that "drags out".
Also the pattern is way too cool to be changed with this xd
03:13:743 (1,2) - I really think this rhythm should be ctrl-g, sounds like main melody is on the slider tail here, and there's no synth on the slider head. Applies for most of this section. Applies for whole section The consistency of this alone makes this ok imo. I also think that the rhythm choice makes sense and the ctrl + g would ruin the "double pairs" of sliders that are the gimmick of this section
new diff name smh
Topic Starter
rip best diffname-Tochi wrote:
new diff name smh
RANK THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSZ
In winber1's Extra. 02:13:601 (2,3,4) - This might be a mistake to place a note in yellow lines
*no kds*
In winber1's Extra. 02:13:601 (2,3,4) - This might be a mistake to place a note in yellow lines
*no kds*
🐘
chat logs
I used two computers to check, so some logs are out of order. This is just direct copy paste from each one
2017-10-31 16:06 Sinnoh: 03:33:618 (1) - can you get rid of the whistle here
2017-10-31 16:06 Sinnoh: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1443385 tofubeats - CANDYYYLAND feat. LIZ (Pa's Lam System Remix) [Doormat's Normal]]
2017-10-31 16:06 ProfessionalBox: doormat diff is only diff that hasn't been checked
2017-10-31 16:07 ProfessionalBox: also fixed unsnapping and uninherited timing point stuff
2017-10-31 16:07 Sinnoh: yeah went through that diff found nothing
2017-10-31 16:07 ProfessionalBox: also removed the whistl
2017-10-31 16:07 ProfessionalBox: wait actually
2017-10-31 16:07 ProfessionalBox: collab insane is unchecked by sing
2017-10-31 16:08 ProfessionalBox: toybot checked but nothing to fix for him
2017-10-31 16:08 ProfessionalBox: sing didnt
2017-10-31 16:09 Sinnoh: why not name it singbot's cuz i had no idea sing was part of the set
2017-10-31 16:09 ProfessionalBox: yeah thats the exact question I'm asking the guys atm
2017-10-31 16:09 ProfessionalBox: they just said "name collab insane" and i was like ok whatever
2017-10-31 16:09 ProfessionalBox: but I don't think they'd mind the namecahnge too much
2017-10-31 16:09 ProfessionalBox: in fact
2017-10-31 16:10 ProfessionalBox: I'll change it if I get no reply
2017-10-31 16:10 ProfessionalBox: I can always change it back to collab insane
2017-10-31 16:10 Sinnoh: do they need to reply about anything else?
2017-10-31 16:10 ProfessionalBox: sing's parts
2017-10-31 16:10 ProfessionalBox: I can check them over since he didn't do that
2017-10-31 16:11 ProfessionalBox: even tho I asked him to do it yesterday before he forgot
2017-10-31 16:11 ProfessionalBox: and he forgot
2017-10-31 16:11 ProfessionalBox: XDDDDDDD
2017-10-31 16:11 ProfessionalBox: he wont mind im sure
2017-10-31 16:11 Sinnoh: also, boxart wongline needs to go soon
2017-10-31 16:12 ProfessionalBox: ok looks like everything pointed to him was pointless
2017-10-31 16:12 ProfessionalBox: nothing probably needs changing
2017-10-31 16:12 ProfessionalBox: yeah
2017-10-31 16:12 Sinnoh: lo
2017-10-31 16:12 ProfessionalBox: everything from the 1 grand mod the diff got was stuff that doesn't need changing
2017-10-31 16:12 ProfessionalBox: personal preference stuff
2017-10-31 16:13 Sinnoh: any reason why epilepsy warning is not enabled?
2017-10-31 16:14 ProfessionalBox: I think it'd be overkill
2017-10-31 16:14 ProfessionalBox: like
2017-10-31 16:14 ProfessionalBox: does it really need to be enabled
2017-10-31 16:14 ProfessionalBox: 02:00:618 -
2017-10-31 16:14 ProfessionalBox: these are the only "flashes"
2017-10-31 16:14 ProfessionalBox: and they dont even repeat
2017-10-31 16:15 Sinnoh: it's every 4 seconds so hmm
2017-10-31 16:15 ProfessionalBox: I'll let you decide
2017-10-31 16:15 ProfessionalBox: I'll enable it if you want for me to
2017-10-31 16:15 ProfessionalBox: I'm quite w/e anyways about it
2017-10-31 16:17 ProfessionalBox: Do you mind if I go cook some food? Would take like 20-30min probably
2017-10-31 16:17 Sinnoh: i am going to mod first so do whatever lol
2017-10-31 16:17 ProfessionalBox: just what I wanted to hear
2017-10-31 16:17 ProfessionalBox:
k_hand:
2017-10-31 16:18 Sinnoh: 01:42:618 (1) - just idk if 4x repeat should be in easy
2017-10-31 16:55 ProfessionalBox: ok im back
2017-10-31 16:55 Sinnoh: 02:12:618 (1) - aren't these burai on fanzhen
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: hmmm
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: technically yes
2017-10-31 16:56 Sinnoh: https://puu.sh/ybons/d6062df383.png is fine
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: but this is borderline I'd say
2017-10-31 16:56 Sinnoh: same thing
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: should probably get some discussion on this
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: because yeah
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: I can do that
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: like you did in pic
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: but like
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: its essentially the same anyways
2017-10-31 16:57 Sinnoh: rules are rules
2017-10-31 16:57 ProfessionalBox: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9436330
2017-10-31 16:57 ProfessionalBox: good enough?
2017-10-31 16:57 Sinnoh: i thought my one was cuter but ok
2017-10-31 16:57 ProfessionalBox: I don't want to add the curved even tho its nice
2017-10-31 16:57 ProfessionalBox: this is fanzhen diff
2017-10-31 16:58 ProfessionalBox: so i need to think like fanzhen
2017-10-31 16:58 ProfessionalBox: he wanted sharp action so I'm gonna give him sharpness
2017-10-31 16:58 Sinnoh: also, why spinners
2017-10-31 16:59 ProfessionalBox: 02:18:618 (1) -
2017-10-31 16:59 ProfessionalBox: same here?
2017-10-31 16:59 Sinnoh: ye
2017-10-31 16:59 ProfessionalBox: will change
2017-10-31 16:59 ProfessionalBox: uh
2017-10-31 16:59 ProfessionalBox: idk why he wanted spinners
2017-10-31 16:59 ProfessionalBox: but he is consistent with them
2017-10-31 17:01 ProfessionalBox: those spinners are something I really wouldn't want to trust and they fit the gimmicky nature of the diff imo
2017-10-31 17:01 ProfessionalBox: Since if I touch the spinners it means I'm basically mapping the parts left blank from scratch, not just modifying
2017-10-31 17:01 Sinnoh: where is fanzhen?
2017-10-31 17:02 ProfessionalBox: no idea but he said he cant come to computer for 3+ days
2017-10-31 17:02 ProfessionalBox: and he said for me to fix for him
2017-10-31 17:05 Sinnoh: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1404440 tofubeats - CANDYYYLAND feat. LIZ (Pa's Lam System Remix) [Boxart Wongline: FOREVER]]
2017-10-31 17:05 Sinnoh: 02:29:868 (1,2,1,2) - aren't these a bit over the top
2017-10-31 17:06 ProfessionalBox: snapwise?
2017-10-31 17:06 Sinnoh: yes
2017-10-31 17:06 ProfessionalBox: the 1/12 snap was to be distinct from the other parts that went from high to low pitch
2017-10-31 17:06 ProfessionalBox: since that went from low to high
2017-10-31 17:07 ProfessionalBox: but I'll change them since 1/12 is not rankable in this context i think xd
2017-10-31 17:09 ProfessionalBox: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9436361
2017-10-31 17:09 ProfessionalBox: what I did to them
2017-10-31 17:09 ProfessionalBox: 1/4 sliders
2017-10-31 17:09 Sinnoh: ok that works
2017-10-31 17:10 ProfessionalBox: Did you make a decision on the epilepsy thing btw
2017-10-31 17:10 Sinnoh: i asked in an sb discord
2017-10-31 17:10 ProfessionalBox: also for the 4x repeat in easy it should be perfectly fine because of how big the gaps are
2017-10-31 17:11 Sinnoh: no response
2017-10-31 17:11 Sinnoh: kk
2017-10-31 17:11 ProfessionalBox: rip response
2017-10-31 17:11 ProfessionalBox: nobody has pointed it out
2017-10-31 17:11 ProfessionalBox: so I think its just aimod being aimod
2017-10-31 17:11 Sinnoh: i'll update you later, mod posted
2017-10-31 17:12 ProfessionalBox: o great
2017-10-31 17:13 Sinnoh: respond to plaubbe's diff it's just hs
2017-10-31 17:13 ProfessionalBox: ye
2017-10-31 17:14 ProfessionalBox: I'll get back to the mod tomorrow, I am super busy for the rest of the day as I have a test cominng up later today
2017-10-31 17:14 ProfessionalBox: I'll also try to get responses from everyone else asap!
2017-10-31 17:15 ProfessionalBox: Thanks for your time and cya later
2017-11-01 17:28 Sinnoh: do you ever want to hear the sliderslide or always prefer it silenced
2017-11-01 17:28 ProfessionalBox: mine is silenced 100% of the time in my skin
2017-11-01 17:28 ProfessionalBox: so I dont even think about its existence
2017-11-01 17:29 ProfessionalBox: is it that bad
2017-11-01 17:29 ProfessionalBox: even with 5% volume?
2017-11-01 17:30 Sinnoh: just noticed it at 01:28:743 (1) - where there's no hitsound before + low volume in music
2017-11-01 17:31 ProfessionalBox: that reminds me
2017-11-01 17:31 ProfessionalBox: I actually almost forgot to silence something
2017-11-01 17:31 ProfessionalBox: I want to quickly try how a part soudns with silenced 1/8ts
2017-11-01 17:32 ProfessionalBox: yeah this is much better, I added 5% volumes to 02:04:602 - and 02:04:883 -
2017-11-01 17:32 Sinnoh: also 02:44:305 (2,2) - aren't these way overmapped
2017-11-01 17:32 ProfessionalBox: all other 1/8 tails are ok imo
2017-11-01 17:32 Sinnoh: for rhythm
2017-11-01 17:33 ProfessionalBox: I think its ok overmapping since its a repeat slider anyways. Also just spamming 1/4 sliders gets boring so
2017-11-01 17:33 ProfessionalBox: I went for variety over 100% accurate music following
2017-11-01 17:33 ProfessionalBox: 02:44:868 (1,2,3,4) - also this is more emphasized because of it
2017-11-01 17:34 ProfessionalBox: 02:44:305 (2,2) - if these were 1/4 sliders too then 02:44:868 (1,2,3,4) - would be underwhelming because it is only 1/4 sliders
2017-11-01 17:34 ProfessionalBox: I hope you understand the reasoning
2017-11-01 17:34 Sinnoh: i understand, i'm just trying to think if there's an alternative solution
2017-11-01 17:35 ProfessionalBox: the other solution would be to leave them as circles
2017-11-01 17:35 ProfessionalBox: just 1x circle
2017-11-01 17:35 ProfessionalBox: but that would feel underwhelming
2017-11-01 17:35 Sinnoh: 02:44:118 (1) - if you used the same rhythm, but had these sliders facing outwards that would also emphasise it
2017-11-01 17:35 Sinnoh: think the hard part of big black
2017-11-01 17:36 Sinnoh: https://puu.sh/ycbKl/9671f9ff53.png totally random placement with the concept
2017-11-01 17:38 ProfessionalBox: i can't really create the same feel without repeat arrows I feel like
2017-11-01 17:38 ProfessionalBox: hmmm
2017-11-01 17:38 ProfessionalBox: also I don't think I have enough space to do that kind of pattern in the kind of scale it would need to be
2017-11-01 17:39 Sinnoh: o, i should have just said like 02:49:180 (1,2,3) - lol
2017-11-01 17:39 Sinnoh: ok, you have your reasons
2017-11-01 17:39 ProfessionalBox: 02:40:368 (1,2,3) - like this?
2017-11-01 17:39 Sinnoh: ye
2017-11-01 17:39 Sinnoh: also enable epilepsy warning on all diffs
2017-11-01 17:39 ProfessionalBox: I mean i just used it in the previous measure
2017-11-01 17:40 ProfessionalBox: so its kinda
2017-11-01 17:40 ProfessionalBox: if you want I can do volume altering for the repeat
2017-11-01 17:40 ProfessionalBox: if you dont want it audible as much?
2017-11-01 17:40 Sinnoh: that would help i guess
2017-11-01 17:40 ProfessionalBox: also good point with the epilepsy, I'll do that
2017-11-01 17:41 Sinnoh: i'm just checking ai mod lo
2017-11-01 17:41 ProfessionalBox: I dropped volume to 30% on the repeat
2017-11-01 17:41 ProfessionalBox: back to 65% on tail
2017-11-01 17:41 ProfessionalBox: I think its actually quite noticeable change
2017-11-01 17:41 ProfessionalBox: feel more natural for me too
2017-11-01 17:41 Sinnoh: do what you think is best
2017-11-01 17:42 Sinnoh: o nice your map broke ai batk_hand:
2017-11-01 17:42 ProfessionalBox: XD
2017-11-01 17:43 ProfessionalBox: ai mod only complains about kiai nothing else
2017-11-01 17:43 ProfessionalBox: updating changes
2017-11-01 17:43 Sinnoh: k gotta restart to check modding assistant cuz mac lol
2017-11-02 13:21 Sinnoh: hype
2017-11-02 13:22 ProfessionalBox: updated
2017-11-02 13:39 Sinnoh: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1418503 tofubeats - CANDYYYLAND feat. LIZ (Pa's Lam System Remix) [Nathan's Extra]]
2017-11-02 13:39 Sinnoh: 00:06:618 (1) - storyboard broke i think
2017-11-02 13:40 Sinnoh: haha more issues that take forever to fix :gun:
2017-11-02 13:41 ProfessionalBox: I think I know the reason
2017-11-02 13:41 ProfessionalBox: I have a hunch
2017-11-02 13:42 ProfessionalBox: I hope I'm right
2017-11-02 13:42 ProfessionalBox: because if I am its super ez fix
2017-11-02 13:42 ProfessionalBox: yup
2017-11-02 13:42 ProfessionalBox: I was
2017-11-02 13:42 ProfessionalBox: maximum bg dimensions are 1920x1200 right? this one is 1920x1080
2017-11-02 13:42 ProfessionalBox: the weird cutoff wont be seen with 1920x1200 resolution
2017-11-02 13:43 ProfessionalBox: so I just have to replace the bg with upscaled version
2017-11-02 13:43 ProfessionalBox: gimme like 5-10min
2017-11-02 13:48 ProfessionalBox: oh no
2017-11-02 13:48 ProfessionalBox: might be another issue
2017-11-02 13:48 ProfessionalBox: wait no
2017-11-02 13:48 ProfessionalBox: its perfect
2017-11-02 13:48 ProfessionalBox: !!!!!!!!
2017-11-02 13:49 ProfessionalBox: fixed and updated
2017-11-01 17:48 Sinnoh: did u even check ai mod
2017-11-01 17:48 Sinnoh: 01:06:243 (1) - offscreen
2017-11-01 17:48 Sinnoh: 02:06:618 (1) - offscreen af
2017-11-01 17:49 Sinnoh: 02:13:180 (2) - ^
2017-11-01 17:49 ProfessionalBox: ai mod doesnt complain for me
2017-11-01 17:49 ProfessionalBox: is this like
2017-11-01 17:49 ProfessionalBox: 3rd party program
2017-11-01 17:49 Sinnoh: *modding assistant
2017-11-01 17:49 ProfessionalBox: yeah i dont have that
2017-11-01 17:49 ProfessionalBox: never used
2017-11-01 17:49 Sinnoh: wut
2017-11-01 17:50 Sinnoh: 03:04:555 (1) - timing point isn't snapped to the tail
2017-11-01 17:51 ProfessionalBox: fixed all so far
2017-11-01 17:51 ProfessionalBox: thanks for being my modding assistant
2017-11-01 17:52 Sinnoh: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1435452 tofubeats - CANDYYYLAND feat. LIZ (Pa's Lam System Remix) [fanzhen's Extra]]
2017-11-01 17:52 Sinnoh: 02:12:618 (1) - offscreen
2017-11-01 17:52 Sinnoh: 02:03:430 (3) - unsnapped
2017-11-01 17:53 Sinnoh: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1435453 tofubeats - CANDYYYLAND feat. LIZ (Pa's Lam System Remix) [Plaubbes' Light Insane]]
2017-11-01 17:53 Sinnoh: 02:04:368 (3) - offscreen
2017-11-01 17:54 Sinnoh: 00:37:368 (2) - there are multiple green lines in many places
2017-11-01 17:55 Sinnoh: soft-hitwhistles 37, 39, 43, 45, 46, 50 are unused according to modding assistant, double check later
2017-11-01 17:55 Sinnoh: and map_credits.png
2017-11-01 17:55 Sinnoh: i don't trust modding assistant as much on sb stuff though
2017-11-01 17:56 Sinnoh: normal-hitclap4 is less than 100ms long
2017-11-01 17:56 ProfessionalBox: i dont like this modding assistant
2017-11-01 17:56 Sinnoh: you have two copies of the mp3 in the file
2017-11-01 17:57 Sinnoh: this would be popped to the moon and back without it lol
2017-11-01 17:57 Sinnoh: lots of stuff to fix, I need to go so catch later
2017-11-01 19:25 Sinnoh: add candyland and candy land to the tags
2017-11-01 19:28 ProfessionalBox: anything else?
2017-11-01 19:29 Sinnoh: uaa, dinner time lo
2017-11-01 19:30 ProfessionalBox: im playing league so np
2017-11-01 19:30 ProfessionalBox: pm when you're back
2017-11-01 19:30 Sinnoh: seems like there's still duplicate timing lines in plaubbes diff, and normal-hitnormal is unused
2017-11-01 19:58 Sinnoh: back
2017-11-01 20:08 ProfessionalBox: im here now
2017-11-01 20:08 Sinnoh: grantastic
2017-11-01 20:08 Sinnoh: how did i spell that so wrong
2017-11-01 20:08 Sinnoh: gratz fantastic
2017-11-01 20:10 Sinnoh: can you link me a part that uses normal-hitnormal
2017-11-01 20:10 Sinnoh: and were the timing points in plaubbe fixed?
2017-11-01 20:10 ProfessionalBox: i lost the log
2017-11-01 20:10 ProfessionalBox: timing point in plaubbe
2017-11-01 20:10 ProfessionalBox: also handsome did hitsounds so i have no clue
2017-11-01 20:11 Sinnoh: 00:37:368 (2) - this general area
2017-11-01 20:12 ProfessionalBox: uh
2017-11-01 20:13 ProfessionalBox: ok removed duplicate
2017-11-01 20:13 ProfessionalBox: but like I said I don't know where normal-hitnormal is used
2017-11-01 20:13 Sinnoh: i am looking rn
2017-11-01 20:13 ProfessionalBox: is there a problem with it?
2017-11-01 20:13 Sinnoh: if it's not there then it's an unused file
2017-11-01 20:14 ProfessionalBox: if the assistant doesn't complain then its probably there
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: 02:48:618 (1) -
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: here
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: o wait
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: sampleset normal
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: its s3
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: so no
2017-11-01 20:15 Sinnoh: did i say hitnormal
2017-11-01 20:15 Sinnoh: i'm retar
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: you did
2017-11-01 20:15 Sinnoh: i'm looking for normal-hitclap
2017-11-01 20:16 ProfessionalBox: oh
2017-11-01 20:16 ProfessionalBox: i dont think that's in here
2017-11-01 20:16 ProfessionalBox: cant remember hearing any claps
2017-11-01 20:16 Sinnoh: 03:00:430 (4) -
2017-11-01 20:16 Sinnoh: then again that might just be a hs error
2017-11-01 20:17 ProfessionalBox: ok its there
2017-11-01 20:17 ProfessionalBox: I trust that its intentional
2017-11-01 20:17 Sinnoh: but that's sampleset 4
2017-11-01 20:17 ProfessionalBox: sounds good to me
2017-11-01 20:17 ProfessionalBox: if its identical
2017-11-01 20:17 ProfessionalBox: yeah its not
2017-11-01 20:18 Sinnoh: 03:24:243 (1) - aha
2017-11-01 20:18 Sinnoh: ok, that's fine
2017-11-01 20:19 Sinnoh: o wait it's not
2017-11-01 20:19 Sinnoh: that's the soft sampleset
2017-11-01 20:19 Sinnoh: kek
2017-11-01 20:19 ProfessionalBox: XD
2017-11-01 20:19 ProfessionalBox: ok will delet
2017-11-01 20:19 ProfessionalBox: the storyboard file was unused btw I checkd it
2017-11-01 20:19 ProfessionalBox: so removed
2017-11-01 20:19 Sinnoh: ok
2017-11-01 20:20 Sinnoh: upload and i'll recheck
2017-11-01 20:22 ProfessionalBox: don
2017-11-01 20:24 Sinnoh: there are still 3 more duplicate timing lines on plaubbe's diff
2017-11-01 20:24 Sinnoh: all on 38
2017-11-01 20:25 ProfessionalBox: the diff doesn't wnat to give up
2017-11-01 20:26 ProfessionalBox: updatin
2017-11-01 20:26 Sinnoh: normal-hitclap4 is still under 100ms according to the program, did oyu fix it?
2017-11-01 20:26 Sinnoh: also add candyland candy land to tags
2017-11-01 20:26 ProfessionalBox: under 100ms
2017-11-01 20:26 ProfessionalBox: uh
2017-11-01 20:26 ProfessionalBox: what do you want me to do
2017-11-01 20:26 ProfessionalBox: add blank space in the end
2017-11-01 20:27 ProfessionalBox: or what
2017-11-01 20:27 Sinnoh: yup, iirc it's because osu has an issue playing a hitsoudn if it's too short
2017-11-01 20:27 ProfessionalBox: spaghetti code smh
2017-11-01 20:28 Sinnoh: on winber's hte program is telling me there's two objects at the same time at 00:23:868 (1,2) - which is a bit odd
2017-11-01 20:29 ProfessionalBox: its 110ms now
2017-11-01 20:30 Sinnoh: 00:23:868 (1) - get rid of hitsound on tail for winber
2017-11-01 20:30 ProfessionalBox: i did
2017-11-01 20:30 ProfessionalBox: I deleted the slider
2017-11-01 20:30 ProfessionalBox: and pasted a new one
2017-11-01 20:30 ProfessionalBox: just in case
2017-11-01 20:30 ProfessionalBox: will update again
2017-11-01 20:30 Sinnoh: idk if that slider should be 1/2 or 3/4
2017-11-01 20:31 ProfessionalBox: updated
2017-11-01 20:31 ProfessionalBox: hmm
2017-11-01 20:31 ProfessionalBox: 3/4 prob
2017-11-01 20:31 ProfessionalBox: check if you find anything else
2017-11-01 20:32 ProfessionalBox: if not then I will update with with 3/4
2017-11-01 20:32 ProfessionalBox: will add tags to new update
2017-11-01 20:33 ProfessionalBox: oh will add tochi to tags too
2017-11-01 20:33 ProfessionalBox: almost forgot
2017-11-01 20:33 ProfessionalBox: sb creator
2017-11-01 20:33 Sinnoh: 01:48:618 (1) - does this section have enough space between objects to not need the overlap thingy
2017-11-01 20:34 ProfessionalBox: what diff
2017-11-01 20:34 Sinnoh: winber
2017-11-01 20:34 Sinnoh: 02:24:618 (1) - too
2017-11-01 20:35 Sinnoh: 03:15:243 (6,1) - too
2017-11-01 20:36 Sinnoh: uh the overlaps aren't solved on nathan's diff
2017-11-01 20:36 Sinnoh: at all 02:00:618 (1) -
2017-11-01 20:37 ProfessionalBox: yeah im fixing them atm
2017-11-01 20:37 ProfessionalBox: forgot that nathan diff had the issue
2017-11-01 20:37 ProfessionalBox: and he is sleeping now so
2017-11-01 20:37 ProfessionalBox: i need to remove a meme from the diff aswell so gimme like 15min
2017-11-01 20:40 Sinnoh: o shit the rule actually makes fanzhen's diff a lot easier to read, I think I'd prefer it if it was kept as a rule tbh
2017-11-01 20:40 Sinnoh: 02:15:805 (3,3) - fanzhen, should these also have the sv
2017-11-01 20:41 Sinnoh: 02:18:571 (5,1,2,3) - LOL
2017-11-01 20:41 Sinnoh: XD
2017-11-01 20:41 Sinnoh: a fuk
2017-11-01 20:42 Sinnoh: it appeared like a tonne of objects were stacked together, ignore me pls
2017-11-01 20:45 ProfessionalBox: ok nathan diff fix now
2017-11-01 20:46 ProfessionalBox: ok fixed that thing
2017-11-01 20:46 ProfessionalBox: what diff is that second copy from?
2017-11-01 20:46 Sinnoh: ignore
2017-11-01 20:46 ProfessionalBox: oh ok
2017-11-01 20:46 ProfessionalBox: ok fixed that fanzhen thing
2017-11-01 20:46 ProfessionalBox: and nathan thing
2017-11-01 20:46 Sinnoh: if you applied that sv there's a couple other places
2017-11-01 20:46 Sinnoh: 02:21:805 (3) -
2017-11-01 20:47 Sinnoh: by a couple i meant one
2017-11-01 20:48 ProfessionalBox: yeah I've missed those stacks while looking through the diff
2017-11-01 20:48 ProfessionalBox: mb
2017-11-01 20:48 Sinnoh: also uh, what does the 40bpm do and the end
2017-11-01 20:49 ProfessionalBox: its there because of aimod complaining about uninherited timing points
2017-11-01 20:49 ProfessionalBox: not all diffs need it
2017-11-01 20:49 ProfessionalBox: but it basically lowers the sv
2017-11-01 20:50 ProfessionalBox: and I use 0.10x sv multiplier
2017-11-01 20:50 ProfessionalBox: for super slow last slider
2017-11-01 20:50 Sinnoh: i'm pretty sure that's not rankable
2017-11-01 20:50 ProfessionalBox: ok gimme 10minutes to fix it
2017-11-01 20:50 ProfessionalBox: sigh
2017-11-01 20:50 ProfessionalBox: so much fixing xd
2017-11-01 20:51 Sinnoh: on old bn tests they made it super clear that timing points should never be used to achieve a gimmick
2017-11-01 20:51 ProfessionalBox: its 0.01 sv now
2017-11-01 20:51 ProfessionalBox: but 160bpm
2017-11-01 20:51 ProfessionalBox: will that do?
2017-11-01 20:52 Sinnoh: rankable now
2017-11-01 20:52 ProfessionalBox: i kind of like the 0.01
2017-11-01 20:52 ProfessionalBox: lmao
2017-11-01 20:52 ProfessionalBox: it snapped perfectly
2017-11-01 20:52 ProfessionalBox: with my 0.10 from 40 bpm
2017-11-01 20:52 ProfessionalBox: looks like im math genious
2017-11-01 20:52 ProfessionalBox: because it was first try
2017-11-01 20:53 ProfessionalBox: wait
2017-11-01 20:53 ProfessionalBox: what
2017-11-01 20:54 ProfessionalBox: apparently im not
2017-11-01 20:54 Sinnoh: i don't think that works just based on the math?
2017-11-01 20:54 ProfessionalBox: 0.01 is way too fast
2017-11-01 20:54 ProfessionalBox: I need lower than 0.01
2017-11-01 20:54 Sinnoh: what was the old sv?
2017-11-01 20:54 ProfessionalBox: .
2017-11-01 20:54 ProfessionalBox: 0.10
2017-11-01 20:54 ProfessionalBox: on 40bpm
2017-11-01 20:54 Sinnoh: 160*?=4
2017-11-01 20:54 Sinnoh: no
2017-11-01 20:55 ProfessionalBox: I think its 4th root of 10
2017-11-01 20:55 ProfessionalBox: for the correct sv
2017-11-01 20:55 ProfessionalBox: or spaghetti code
2017-11-01 20:56 ProfessionalBox: 0.01 is simply put
2017-11-01 20:56 ProfessionalBox: way too fast
2017-11-01 20:56 ProfessionalBox: and I cant go lower
2017-11-01 20:57 Sinnoh: text edit
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: text edit is what achieves 0.01
2017-11-01 20:57 Sinnoh: hahawtf
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: 0.10 is lowest in editor
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: I guess I can
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: add more decimal
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: and see how close to 0 we can get
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: the game stops tracking the sv at 0.01 unless you get to 0.00
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: i think
2017-11-01 20:57 Sinnoh: editor uses more than two decimal points
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: WHAT
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: ok this game
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: im done
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: fuk
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: now its working again
2017-11-01 20:58 Sinnoh: did you not know
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: .......
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: I know it uses
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: but it doesnt show more than 2
2017-11-01 20:59 Sinnoh: you can snap sliders with bodies that go over red lines by changing the third digit over and over until it snap
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: ok now it shows as
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: 0.00
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: but still too fast
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: are you sure
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: this is rankable
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: sv 0.00
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: https://puu.sh/ycgRv/bbb9d886f6.png
2017-11-01 20:59 Sinnoh: what you see =/= what it is lmao
2017-11-01 21:00 Sinnoh: lmfao
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: yeah i know
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: but
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: like
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: is there not a rule about
2017-11-01 21:00 Sinnoh: nope
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: "you cant have sv 0
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: "
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: XD
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: ok great
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: lets see if we can get to -0
2017-11-01 21:00 Sinnoh: no
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: but this is like
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: 2x too fast still
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: so need to go even slowe
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: r
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: getting aspire flashbacks here
2017-11-01 21:02 ProfessionalBox: I think I've achieved a point
2017-11-01 21:02 ProfessionalBox: where it doesnt go lower
2017-11-01 21:02 Sinnoh:
2017-11-01 21:04 ProfessionalBox: yeah
2017-11-01 21:04 ProfessionalBox: it doesnt go lower
2017-11-01 21:04 ProfessionalBox: too fast still
2017-11-01 21:04 ProfessionalBox: 2x too fast
2017-11-01 21:08 ProfessionalBox: well
2017-11-01 21:08 ProfessionalBox: I have an alternative here
2017-11-01 21:08 ProfessionalBox: it uses 0.00
2017-11-01 21:08 ProfessionalBox: but i really dont like it
2017-11-01 21:08 ProfessionalBox: I would much much prefer the old version
2017-11-01 21:13 ProfessionalBox: I'll ask oko if this could be a good enough reason to have another bpm in the map
2017-11-01 21:13 ProfessionalBox: the fact that 0.00 is too fast
2017-10-31 16:06 Sinnoh: 03:33:618 (1) - can you get rid of the whistle here
2017-10-31 16:06 Sinnoh: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1443385 tofubeats - CANDYYYLAND feat. LIZ (Pa's Lam System Remix) [Doormat's Normal]]
2017-10-31 16:06 ProfessionalBox: doormat diff is only diff that hasn't been checked
2017-10-31 16:07 ProfessionalBox: also fixed unsnapping and uninherited timing point stuff
2017-10-31 16:07 Sinnoh: yeah went through that diff found nothing
2017-10-31 16:07 ProfessionalBox: also removed the whistl
2017-10-31 16:07 ProfessionalBox: wait actually
2017-10-31 16:07 ProfessionalBox: collab insane is unchecked by sing
2017-10-31 16:08 ProfessionalBox: toybot checked but nothing to fix for him
2017-10-31 16:08 ProfessionalBox: sing didnt
2017-10-31 16:09 Sinnoh: why not name it singbot's cuz i had no idea sing was part of the set
2017-10-31 16:09 ProfessionalBox: yeah thats the exact question I'm asking the guys atm
2017-10-31 16:09 ProfessionalBox: they just said "name collab insane" and i was like ok whatever
2017-10-31 16:09 ProfessionalBox: but I don't think they'd mind the namecahnge too much
2017-10-31 16:09 ProfessionalBox: in fact
2017-10-31 16:10 ProfessionalBox: I'll change it if I get no reply
2017-10-31 16:10 ProfessionalBox: I can always change it back to collab insane
2017-10-31 16:10 Sinnoh: do they need to reply about anything else?
2017-10-31 16:10 ProfessionalBox: sing's parts
2017-10-31 16:10 ProfessionalBox: I can check them over since he didn't do that
2017-10-31 16:11 ProfessionalBox: even tho I asked him to do it yesterday before he forgot
2017-10-31 16:11 ProfessionalBox: and he forgot
2017-10-31 16:11 ProfessionalBox: XDDDDDDD
2017-10-31 16:11 ProfessionalBox: he wont mind im sure
2017-10-31 16:11 Sinnoh: also, boxart wongline needs to go soon
2017-10-31 16:12 ProfessionalBox: ok looks like everything pointed to him was pointless
2017-10-31 16:12 ProfessionalBox: nothing probably needs changing
2017-10-31 16:12 ProfessionalBox: yeah
2017-10-31 16:12 Sinnoh: lo
2017-10-31 16:12 ProfessionalBox: everything from the 1 grand mod the diff got was stuff that doesn't need changing
2017-10-31 16:12 ProfessionalBox: personal preference stuff
2017-10-31 16:13 Sinnoh: any reason why epilepsy warning is not enabled?
2017-10-31 16:14 ProfessionalBox: I think it'd be overkill
2017-10-31 16:14 ProfessionalBox: like
2017-10-31 16:14 ProfessionalBox: does it really need to be enabled
2017-10-31 16:14 ProfessionalBox: 02:00:618 -
2017-10-31 16:14 ProfessionalBox: these are the only "flashes"
2017-10-31 16:14 ProfessionalBox: and they dont even repeat
2017-10-31 16:15 Sinnoh: it's every 4 seconds so hmm
2017-10-31 16:15 ProfessionalBox: I'll let you decide
2017-10-31 16:15 ProfessionalBox: I'll enable it if you want for me to
2017-10-31 16:15 ProfessionalBox: I'm quite w/e anyways about it
2017-10-31 16:17 ProfessionalBox: Do you mind if I go cook some food? Would take like 20-30min probably
2017-10-31 16:17 Sinnoh: i am going to mod first so do whatever lol
2017-10-31 16:17 ProfessionalBox: just what I wanted to hear
2017-10-31 16:17 ProfessionalBox:
k_hand:2017-10-31 16:18 Sinnoh: 01:42:618 (1) - just idk if 4x repeat should be in easy
2017-10-31 16:55 ProfessionalBox: ok im back
2017-10-31 16:55 Sinnoh: 02:12:618 (1) - aren't these burai on fanzhen
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: hmmm
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: technically yes
2017-10-31 16:56 Sinnoh: https://puu.sh/ybons/d6062df383.png is fine
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: but this is borderline I'd say
2017-10-31 16:56 Sinnoh: same thing
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: should probably get some discussion on this
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: because yeah
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: I can do that
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: like you did in pic
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: but like
2017-10-31 16:56 ProfessionalBox: its essentially the same anyways
2017-10-31 16:57 Sinnoh: rules are rules
2017-10-31 16:57 ProfessionalBox: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9436330
2017-10-31 16:57 ProfessionalBox: good enough?
2017-10-31 16:57 Sinnoh: i thought my one was cuter but ok
2017-10-31 16:57 ProfessionalBox: I don't want to add the curved even tho its nice
2017-10-31 16:57 ProfessionalBox: this is fanzhen diff
2017-10-31 16:58 ProfessionalBox: so i need to think like fanzhen
2017-10-31 16:58 ProfessionalBox: he wanted sharp action so I'm gonna give him sharpness
2017-10-31 16:58 Sinnoh: also, why spinners
2017-10-31 16:59 ProfessionalBox: 02:18:618 (1) -
2017-10-31 16:59 ProfessionalBox: same here?
2017-10-31 16:59 Sinnoh: ye
2017-10-31 16:59 ProfessionalBox: will change
2017-10-31 16:59 ProfessionalBox: uh
2017-10-31 16:59 ProfessionalBox: idk why he wanted spinners
2017-10-31 16:59 ProfessionalBox: but he is consistent with them
2017-10-31 17:01 ProfessionalBox: those spinners are something I really wouldn't want to trust and they fit the gimmicky nature of the diff imo
2017-10-31 17:01 ProfessionalBox: Since if I touch the spinners it means I'm basically mapping the parts left blank from scratch, not just modifying
2017-10-31 17:01 Sinnoh: where is fanzhen?
2017-10-31 17:02 ProfessionalBox: no idea but he said he cant come to computer for 3+ days
2017-10-31 17:02 ProfessionalBox: and he said for me to fix for him
2017-10-31 17:05 Sinnoh: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1404440 tofubeats - CANDYYYLAND feat. LIZ (Pa's Lam System Remix) [Boxart Wongline: FOREVER]]
2017-10-31 17:05 Sinnoh: 02:29:868 (1,2,1,2) - aren't these a bit over the top
2017-10-31 17:06 ProfessionalBox: snapwise?
2017-10-31 17:06 Sinnoh: yes
2017-10-31 17:06 ProfessionalBox: the 1/12 snap was to be distinct from the other parts that went from high to low pitch
2017-10-31 17:06 ProfessionalBox: since that went from low to high
2017-10-31 17:07 ProfessionalBox: but I'll change them since 1/12 is not rankable in this context i think xd
2017-10-31 17:09 ProfessionalBox: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9436361
2017-10-31 17:09 ProfessionalBox: what I did to them
2017-10-31 17:09 ProfessionalBox: 1/4 sliders
2017-10-31 17:09 Sinnoh: ok that works
2017-10-31 17:10 ProfessionalBox: Did you make a decision on the epilepsy thing btw
2017-10-31 17:10 Sinnoh: i asked in an sb discord
2017-10-31 17:10 ProfessionalBox: also for the 4x repeat in easy it should be perfectly fine because of how big the gaps are
2017-10-31 17:11 Sinnoh: no response
2017-10-31 17:11 Sinnoh: kk
2017-10-31 17:11 ProfessionalBox: rip response
2017-10-31 17:11 ProfessionalBox: nobody has pointed it out
2017-10-31 17:11 ProfessionalBox: so I think its just aimod being aimod
2017-10-31 17:11 Sinnoh: i'll update you later, mod posted
2017-10-31 17:12 ProfessionalBox: o great
2017-10-31 17:13 Sinnoh: respond to plaubbe's diff it's just hs
2017-10-31 17:13 ProfessionalBox: ye
2017-10-31 17:14 ProfessionalBox: I'll get back to the mod tomorrow, I am super busy for the rest of the day as I have a test cominng up later today
2017-10-31 17:14 ProfessionalBox: I'll also try to get responses from everyone else asap!
2017-10-31 17:15 ProfessionalBox: Thanks for your time and cya later
2017-11-01 17:28 Sinnoh: do you ever want to hear the sliderslide or always prefer it silenced
2017-11-01 17:28 ProfessionalBox: mine is silenced 100% of the time in my skin
2017-11-01 17:28 ProfessionalBox: so I dont even think about its existence
2017-11-01 17:29 ProfessionalBox: is it that bad
2017-11-01 17:29 ProfessionalBox: even with 5% volume?
2017-11-01 17:30 Sinnoh: just noticed it at 01:28:743 (1) - where there's no hitsound before + low volume in music
2017-11-01 17:31 ProfessionalBox: that reminds me
2017-11-01 17:31 ProfessionalBox: I actually almost forgot to silence something
2017-11-01 17:31 ProfessionalBox: I want to quickly try how a part soudns with silenced 1/8ts
2017-11-01 17:32 ProfessionalBox: yeah this is much better, I added 5% volumes to 02:04:602 - and 02:04:883 -
2017-11-01 17:32 Sinnoh: also 02:44:305 (2,2) - aren't these way overmapped
2017-11-01 17:32 ProfessionalBox: all other 1/8 tails are ok imo
2017-11-01 17:32 Sinnoh: for rhythm
2017-11-01 17:33 ProfessionalBox: I think its ok overmapping since its a repeat slider anyways. Also just spamming 1/4 sliders gets boring so
2017-11-01 17:33 ProfessionalBox: I went for variety over 100% accurate music following
2017-11-01 17:33 ProfessionalBox: 02:44:868 (1,2,3,4) - also this is more emphasized because of it
2017-11-01 17:34 ProfessionalBox: 02:44:305 (2,2) - if these were 1/4 sliders too then 02:44:868 (1,2,3,4) - would be underwhelming because it is only 1/4 sliders
2017-11-01 17:34 ProfessionalBox: I hope you understand the reasoning
2017-11-01 17:34 Sinnoh: i understand, i'm just trying to think if there's an alternative solution
2017-11-01 17:35 ProfessionalBox: the other solution would be to leave them as circles
2017-11-01 17:35 ProfessionalBox: just 1x circle
2017-11-01 17:35 ProfessionalBox: but that would feel underwhelming
2017-11-01 17:35 Sinnoh: 02:44:118 (1) - if you used the same rhythm, but had these sliders facing outwards that would also emphasise it
2017-11-01 17:35 Sinnoh: think the hard part of big black
2017-11-01 17:36 Sinnoh: https://puu.sh/ycbKl/9671f9ff53.png totally random placement with the concept
2017-11-01 17:38 ProfessionalBox: i can't really create the same feel without repeat arrows I feel like
2017-11-01 17:38 ProfessionalBox: hmmm
2017-11-01 17:38 ProfessionalBox: also I don't think I have enough space to do that kind of pattern in the kind of scale it would need to be
2017-11-01 17:39 Sinnoh: o, i should have just said like 02:49:180 (1,2,3) - lol
2017-11-01 17:39 Sinnoh: ok, you have your reasons
2017-11-01 17:39 ProfessionalBox: 02:40:368 (1,2,3) - like this?
2017-11-01 17:39 Sinnoh: ye
2017-11-01 17:39 Sinnoh: also enable epilepsy warning on all diffs
2017-11-01 17:39 ProfessionalBox: I mean i just used it in the previous measure
2017-11-01 17:40 ProfessionalBox: so its kinda
2017-11-01 17:40 ProfessionalBox: if you want I can do volume altering for the repeat
2017-11-01 17:40 ProfessionalBox: if you dont want it audible as much?
2017-11-01 17:40 Sinnoh: that would help i guess
2017-11-01 17:40 ProfessionalBox: also good point with the epilepsy, I'll do that
2017-11-01 17:41 Sinnoh: i'm just checking ai mod lo
2017-11-01 17:41 ProfessionalBox: I dropped volume to 30% on the repeat
2017-11-01 17:41 ProfessionalBox: back to 65% on tail
2017-11-01 17:41 ProfessionalBox: I think its actually quite noticeable change
2017-11-01 17:41 ProfessionalBox: feel more natural for me too
2017-11-01 17:41 Sinnoh: do what you think is best
2017-11-01 17:42 Sinnoh: o nice your map broke ai bat
k_hand:2017-11-01 17:42 ProfessionalBox: XD
2017-11-01 17:43 ProfessionalBox: ai mod only complains about kiai nothing else
2017-11-01 17:43 ProfessionalBox: updating changes
2017-11-01 17:43 Sinnoh: k gotta restart to check modding assistant cuz mac lol
2017-11-02 13:21 Sinnoh: hype
2017-11-02 13:22 ProfessionalBox: updated
2017-11-02 13:39 Sinnoh: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1418503 tofubeats - CANDYYYLAND feat. LIZ (Pa's Lam System Remix) [Nathan's Extra]]
2017-11-02 13:39 Sinnoh: 00:06:618 (1) - storyboard broke i think
2017-11-02 13:40 Sinnoh: haha more issues that take forever to fix :gun:
2017-11-02 13:41 ProfessionalBox: I think I know the reason
2017-11-02 13:41 ProfessionalBox: I have a hunch
2017-11-02 13:42 ProfessionalBox: I hope I'm right
2017-11-02 13:42 ProfessionalBox: because if I am its super ez fix
2017-11-02 13:42 ProfessionalBox: yup
2017-11-02 13:42 ProfessionalBox: I was
2017-11-02 13:42 ProfessionalBox: maximum bg dimensions are 1920x1200 right? this one is 1920x1080
2017-11-02 13:42 ProfessionalBox: the weird cutoff wont be seen with 1920x1200 resolution
2017-11-02 13:43 ProfessionalBox: so I just have to replace the bg with upscaled version
2017-11-02 13:43 ProfessionalBox: gimme like 5-10min
2017-11-02 13:48 ProfessionalBox: oh no
2017-11-02 13:48 ProfessionalBox: might be another issue
2017-11-02 13:48 ProfessionalBox: wait no
2017-11-02 13:48 ProfessionalBox: its perfect
2017-11-02 13:48 ProfessionalBox: !!!!!!!!
2017-11-02 13:49 ProfessionalBox: fixed and updated
2017-11-01 17:48 Sinnoh: did u even check ai mod
2017-11-01 17:48 Sinnoh: 01:06:243 (1) - offscreen
2017-11-01 17:48 Sinnoh: 02:06:618 (1) - offscreen af
2017-11-01 17:49 Sinnoh: 02:13:180 (2) - ^
2017-11-01 17:49 ProfessionalBox: ai mod doesnt complain for me
2017-11-01 17:49 ProfessionalBox: is this like
2017-11-01 17:49 ProfessionalBox: 3rd party program
2017-11-01 17:49 Sinnoh: *modding assistant
2017-11-01 17:49 ProfessionalBox: yeah i dont have that
2017-11-01 17:49 ProfessionalBox: never used
2017-11-01 17:49 Sinnoh: wut
2017-11-01 17:50 Sinnoh: 03:04:555 (1) - timing point isn't snapped to the tail
2017-11-01 17:51 ProfessionalBox: fixed all so far
2017-11-01 17:51 ProfessionalBox: thanks for being my modding assistant
2017-11-01 17:52 Sinnoh: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1435452 tofubeats - CANDYYYLAND feat. LIZ (Pa's Lam System Remix) [fanzhen's Extra]]
2017-11-01 17:52 Sinnoh: 02:12:618 (1) - offscreen
2017-11-01 17:52 Sinnoh: 02:03:430 (3) - unsnapped
2017-11-01 17:53 Sinnoh: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1435453 tofubeats - CANDYYYLAND feat. LIZ (Pa's Lam System Remix) [Plaubbes' Light Insane]]
2017-11-01 17:53 Sinnoh: 02:04:368 (3) - offscreen
2017-11-01 17:54 Sinnoh: 00:37:368 (2) - there are multiple green lines in many places
2017-11-01 17:55 Sinnoh: soft-hitwhistles 37, 39, 43, 45, 46, 50 are unused according to modding assistant, double check later
2017-11-01 17:55 Sinnoh: and map_credits.png
2017-11-01 17:55 Sinnoh: i don't trust modding assistant as much on sb stuff though
2017-11-01 17:56 Sinnoh: normal-hitclap4 is less than 100ms long
2017-11-01 17:56 ProfessionalBox: i dont like this modding assistant
2017-11-01 17:56 Sinnoh: you have two copies of the mp3 in the file
2017-11-01 17:57 Sinnoh: this would be popped to the moon and back without it lol
2017-11-01 17:57 Sinnoh: lots of stuff to fix, I need to go so catch later
2017-11-01 19:25 Sinnoh: add candyland and candy land to the tags
2017-11-01 19:28 ProfessionalBox: anything else?
2017-11-01 19:29 Sinnoh: uaa, dinner time lo
2017-11-01 19:30 ProfessionalBox: im playing league so np
2017-11-01 19:30 ProfessionalBox: pm when you're back
2017-11-01 19:30 Sinnoh: seems like there's still duplicate timing lines in plaubbes diff, and normal-hitnormal is unused
2017-11-01 19:58 Sinnoh: back
2017-11-01 20:08 ProfessionalBox: im here now
2017-11-01 20:08 Sinnoh: grantastic
2017-11-01 20:08 Sinnoh: how did i spell that so wrong
2017-11-01 20:08 Sinnoh: gratz fantastic
2017-11-01 20:10 Sinnoh: can you link me a part that uses normal-hitnormal
2017-11-01 20:10 Sinnoh: and were the timing points in plaubbe fixed?
2017-11-01 20:10 ProfessionalBox: i lost the log
2017-11-01 20:10 ProfessionalBox: timing point in plaubbe
2017-11-01 20:10 ProfessionalBox: also handsome did hitsounds so i have no clue
2017-11-01 20:11 Sinnoh: 00:37:368 (2) - this general area
2017-11-01 20:12 ProfessionalBox: uh
2017-11-01 20:13 ProfessionalBox: ok removed duplicate
2017-11-01 20:13 ProfessionalBox: but like I said I don't know where normal-hitnormal is used
2017-11-01 20:13 Sinnoh: i am looking rn
2017-11-01 20:13 ProfessionalBox: is there a problem with it?
2017-11-01 20:13 Sinnoh: if it's not there then it's an unused file
2017-11-01 20:14 ProfessionalBox: if the assistant doesn't complain then its probably there
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: 02:48:618 (1) -
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: here
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: o wait
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: sampleset normal
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: its s3
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: so no
2017-11-01 20:15 Sinnoh: did i say hitnormal
2017-11-01 20:15 Sinnoh: i'm retar
2017-11-01 20:15 ProfessionalBox: you did
2017-11-01 20:15 Sinnoh: i'm looking for normal-hitclap
2017-11-01 20:16 ProfessionalBox: oh
2017-11-01 20:16 ProfessionalBox: i dont think that's in here
2017-11-01 20:16 ProfessionalBox: cant remember hearing any claps
2017-11-01 20:16 Sinnoh: 03:00:430 (4) -
2017-11-01 20:16 Sinnoh: then again that might just be a hs error
2017-11-01 20:17 ProfessionalBox: ok its there
2017-11-01 20:17 ProfessionalBox: I trust that its intentional
2017-11-01 20:17 Sinnoh: but that's sampleset 4
2017-11-01 20:17 ProfessionalBox: sounds good to me
2017-11-01 20:17 ProfessionalBox: if its identical
2017-11-01 20:17 ProfessionalBox: yeah its not
2017-11-01 20:18 Sinnoh: 03:24:243 (1) - aha
2017-11-01 20:18 Sinnoh: ok, that's fine
2017-11-01 20:19 Sinnoh: o wait it's not
2017-11-01 20:19 Sinnoh: that's the soft sampleset
2017-11-01 20:19 Sinnoh: kek
2017-11-01 20:19 ProfessionalBox: XD
2017-11-01 20:19 ProfessionalBox: ok will delet
2017-11-01 20:19 ProfessionalBox: the storyboard file was unused btw I checkd it
2017-11-01 20:19 ProfessionalBox: so removed
2017-11-01 20:19 Sinnoh: ok
2017-11-01 20:20 Sinnoh: upload and i'll recheck
2017-11-01 20:22 ProfessionalBox: don
2017-11-01 20:24 Sinnoh: there are still 3 more duplicate timing lines on plaubbe's diff
2017-11-01 20:24 Sinnoh: all on 38
2017-11-01 20:25 ProfessionalBox: the diff doesn't wnat to give up
2017-11-01 20:26 ProfessionalBox: updatin
2017-11-01 20:26 Sinnoh: normal-hitclap4 is still under 100ms according to the program, did oyu fix it?
2017-11-01 20:26 Sinnoh: also add candyland candy land to tags
2017-11-01 20:26 ProfessionalBox: under 100ms
2017-11-01 20:26 ProfessionalBox: uh
2017-11-01 20:26 ProfessionalBox: what do you want me to do
2017-11-01 20:26 ProfessionalBox: add blank space in the end
2017-11-01 20:27 ProfessionalBox: or what
2017-11-01 20:27 Sinnoh: yup, iirc it's because osu has an issue playing a hitsoudn if it's too short
2017-11-01 20:27 ProfessionalBox: spaghetti code smh
2017-11-01 20:28 Sinnoh: on winber's hte program is telling me there's two objects at the same time at 00:23:868 (1,2) - which is a bit odd
2017-11-01 20:29 ProfessionalBox: its 110ms now
2017-11-01 20:30 Sinnoh: 00:23:868 (1) - get rid of hitsound on tail for winber
2017-11-01 20:30 ProfessionalBox: i did
2017-11-01 20:30 ProfessionalBox: I deleted the slider
2017-11-01 20:30 ProfessionalBox: and pasted a new one
2017-11-01 20:30 ProfessionalBox: just in case
2017-11-01 20:30 ProfessionalBox: will update again
2017-11-01 20:30 Sinnoh: idk if that slider should be 1/2 or 3/4
2017-11-01 20:31 ProfessionalBox: updated
2017-11-01 20:31 ProfessionalBox: hmm
2017-11-01 20:31 ProfessionalBox: 3/4 prob
2017-11-01 20:31 ProfessionalBox: check if you find anything else
2017-11-01 20:32 ProfessionalBox: if not then I will update with with 3/4
2017-11-01 20:32 ProfessionalBox: will add tags to new update
2017-11-01 20:33 ProfessionalBox: oh will add tochi to tags too
2017-11-01 20:33 ProfessionalBox: almost forgot
2017-11-01 20:33 ProfessionalBox: sb creator
2017-11-01 20:33 Sinnoh: 01:48:618 (1) - does this section have enough space between objects to not need the overlap thingy
2017-11-01 20:34 ProfessionalBox: what diff
2017-11-01 20:34 Sinnoh: winber
2017-11-01 20:34 Sinnoh: 02:24:618 (1) - too
2017-11-01 20:35 Sinnoh: 03:15:243 (6,1) - too
2017-11-01 20:36 Sinnoh: uh the overlaps aren't solved on nathan's diff
2017-11-01 20:36 Sinnoh: at all 02:00:618 (1) -
2017-11-01 20:37 ProfessionalBox: yeah im fixing them atm
2017-11-01 20:37 ProfessionalBox: forgot that nathan diff had the issue
2017-11-01 20:37 ProfessionalBox: and he is sleeping now so
2017-11-01 20:37 ProfessionalBox: i need to remove a meme from the diff aswell so gimme like 15min
2017-11-01 20:40 Sinnoh: o shit the rule actually makes fanzhen's diff a lot easier to read, I think I'd prefer it if it was kept as a rule tbh
2017-11-01 20:40 Sinnoh: 02:15:805 (3,3) - fanzhen, should these also have the sv
2017-11-01 20:41 Sinnoh: 02:18:571 (5,1,2,3) - LOL
2017-11-01 20:41 Sinnoh: XD
2017-11-01 20:41 Sinnoh: a fuk
2017-11-01 20:42 Sinnoh: it appeared like a tonne of objects were stacked together, ignore me pls
2017-11-01 20:45 ProfessionalBox: ok nathan diff fix now
2017-11-01 20:46 ProfessionalBox: ok fixed that thing
2017-11-01 20:46 ProfessionalBox: what diff is that second copy from?
2017-11-01 20:46 Sinnoh: ignore
2017-11-01 20:46 ProfessionalBox: oh ok
2017-11-01 20:46 ProfessionalBox: ok fixed that fanzhen thing
2017-11-01 20:46 ProfessionalBox: and nathan thing
2017-11-01 20:46 Sinnoh: if you applied that sv there's a couple other places
2017-11-01 20:46 Sinnoh: 02:21:805 (3) -
2017-11-01 20:47 Sinnoh: by a couple i meant one
2017-11-01 20:48 ProfessionalBox: yeah I've missed those stacks while looking through the diff
2017-11-01 20:48 ProfessionalBox: mb
2017-11-01 20:48 Sinnoh: also uh, what does the 40bpm do and the end
2017-11-01 20:49 ProfessionalBox: its there because of aimod complaining about uninherited timing points
2017-11-01 20:49 ProfessionalBox: not all diffs need it
2017-11-01 20:49 ProfessionalBox: but it basically lowers the sv
2017-11-01 20:50 ProfessionalBox: and I use 0.10x sv multiplier
2017-11-01 20:50 ProfessionalBox: for super slow last slider
2017-11-01 20:50 Sinnoh: i'm pretty sure that's not rankable
2017-11-01 20:50 ProfessionalBox: ok gimme 10minutes to fix it
2017-11-01 20:50 ProfessionalBox: sigh
2017-11-01 20:50 ProfessionalBox: so much fixing xd
2017-11-01 20:51 Sinnoh: on old bn tests they made it super clear that timing points should never be used to achieve a gimmick
2017-11-01 20:51 ProfessionalBox: its 0.01 sv now
2017-11-01 20:51 ProfessionalBox: but 160bpm
2017-11-01 20:51 ProfessionalBox: will that do?
2017-11-01 20:52 Sinnoh: rankable now
2017-11-01 20:52 ProfessionalBox: i kind of like the 0.01
2017-11-01 20:52 ProfessionalBox: lmao
2017-11-01 20:52 ProfessionalBox: it snapped perfectly
2017-11-01 20:52 ProfessionalBox: with my 0.10 from 40 bpm
2017-11-01 20:52 ProfessionalBox: looks like im math genious
2017-11-01 20:52 ProfessionalBox: because it was first try
2017-11-01 20:53 ProfessionalBox: wait
2017-11-01 20:53 ProfessionalBox: what
2017-11-01 20:54 ProfessionalBox: apparently im not
2017-11-01 20:54 Sinnoh: i don't think that works just based on the math?
2017-11-01 20:54 ProfessionalBox: 0.01 is way too fast
2017-11-01 20:54 ProfessionalBox: I need lower than 0.01
2017-11-01 20:54 Sinnoh: what was the old sv?
2017-11-01 20:54 ProfessionalBox: .
2017-11-01 20:54 ProfessionalBox: 0.10
2017-11-01 20:54 ProfessionalBox: on 40bpm
2017-11-01 20:54 Sinnoh: 160*?=4
2017-11-01 20:54 Sinnoh: no
2017-11-01 20:55 ProfessionalBox: I think its 4th root of 10
2017-11-01 20:55 ProfessionalBox: for the correct sv
2017-11-01 20:55 ProfessionalBox: or spaghetti code
2017-11-01 20:56 ProfessionalBox: 0.01 is simply put
2017-11-01 20:56 ProfessionalBox: way too fast
2017-11-01 20:56 ProfessionalBox: and I cant go lower
2017-11-01 20:57 Sinnoh: text edit
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: text edit is what achieves 0.01
2017-11-01 20:57 Sinnoh: hahawtf
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: 0.10 is lowest in editor
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: I guess I can
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: add more decimal
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: and see how close to 0 we can get
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: the game stops tracking the sv at 0.01 unless you get to 0.00
2017-11-01 20:57 ProfessionalBox: i think
2017-11-01 20:57 Sinnoh: editor uses more than two decimal points
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: WHAT
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: ok this game
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: im done
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: fuk
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: now its working again
2017-11-01 20:58 Sinnoh: did you not know
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: .......
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: I know it uses
2017-11-01 20:58 ProfessionalBox: but it doesnt show more than 2
2017-11-01 20:59 Sinnoh: you can snap sliders with bodies that go over red lines by changing the third digit over and over until it snap
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: ok now it shows as
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: 0.00
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: but still too fast
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: are you sure
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: this is rankable
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: sv 0.00
2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox:
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD2017-11-01 20:59 ProfessionalBox: https://puu.sh/ycgRv/bbb9d886f6.png
2017-11-01 20:59 Sinnoh: what you see =/= what it is lmao
2017-11-01 21:00 Sinnoh: lmfao
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: yeah i know
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: but
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: like
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: is there not a rule about
2017-11-01 21:00 Sinnoh: nope
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: "you cant have sv 0
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: "
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: XD
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: ok great
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: lets see if we can get to -0
2017-11-01 21:00 Sinnoh: no
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: but this is like
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: 2x too fast still
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: so need to go even slowe
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: r
2017-11-01 21:00 ProfessionalBox: getting aspire flashbacks here
2017-11-01 21:02 ProfessionalBox: I think I've achieved a point
2017-11-01 21:02 ProfessionalBox: where it doesnt go lower
2017-11-01 21:02 Sinnoh:
2017-11-01 21:04 ProfessionalBox: yeah
2017-11-01 21:04 ProfessionalBox: it doesnt go lower
2017-11-01 21:04 ProfessionalBox: too fast still
2017-11-01 21:04 ProfessionalBox: 2x too fast
2017-11-01 21:08 ProfessionalBox: well
2017-11-01 21:08 ProfessionalBox: I have an alternative here
2017-11-01 21:08 ProfessionalBox: it uses 0.00
2017-11-01 21:08 ProfessionalBox: but i really dont like it
2017-11-01 21:08 ProfessionalBox: I would much much prefer the old version
2017-11-01 21:13 ProfessionalBox: I'll ask oko if this could be a good enough reason to have another bpm in the map
2017-11-01 21:13 ProfessionalBox: the fact that 0.00 is too fast
wHOA winber FIX STOP right THERe my dude
I feel like there are some spacing issues in the last two diffs regarding the streams at the end.
winber1's diff also has misrepresentations of music. at 02:45:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the music doesn't change in intensity and should have consistent spacing, however it's mapped as if there's a diminuendo.
03:22:462 (2,3,4,5,6) - this part of the music is less intense than 03:21:712 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - however it's mapped the same way. the same can be said here and the streams should have less distance between notes 03:19:462 (2,3,4,5,6) -
fanzhen's Extra
03:31:368 (5,6,7,8,9) - these hit circles are mapped on notes that have a stark difference to the rest of the stream but are mapped the same way. they should have similar spacing to the other streams like 03:24:993 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - for example. the same can be said for 03:32:868 (5,6,7,8,9) - and 03:34:368 (5,6,7,8,9) -
Sweet Surrender
03:25:743 (5,6,7,8) - these notes have the exact same spacing as 03:25:368 (1,2,3,4) - however are mapped on far less intense parts of the music. the change in flow isn't drastic enough to represent the music as done in the following streams
winber1's diff also has misrepresentations of music. at 02:45:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the music doesn't change in intensity and should have consistent spacing, however it's mapped as if there's a diminuendo.
03:22:462 (2,3,4,5,6) - this part of the music is less intense than 03:21:712 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - however it's mapped the same way. the same can be said here and the streams should have less distance between notes 03:19:462 (2,3,4,5,6) -
i miss Wongline
J_8579 wrote:
i miss Wongline
J_8579 wrote:
i miss Wongline
forgot to check metadata 👏
You need to remove brackets from the title
- Unicode Title: CAND￥￥￥LAND feat LIZ - Pa's Lam System Remix
- Romanised Title: CANDYYYLAND feat LIZ - Pa's Lam System Remix
- Unicode Artist: tofubeats
- References:
+ http://www.tofubeats.com/firstalbumremixes/ - This one is mis-spelled lol
+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ZpcugfuzA - Romanised title
+ https://soundcloud.com/tofubeats/first- ... -streaming - No brackets here either
add kibbleru to the tags
Seems like Banter has some good points that are well explained, would like to see a response to them
You need to remove brackets from the title
- Unicode Title: CAND￥￥￥LAND feat LIZ - Pa's Lam System Remix
- Romanised Title: CANDYYYLAND feat LIZ - Pa's Lam System Remix
- Unicode Artist: tofubeats
- References:
+ http://www.tofubeats.com/firstalbumremixes/ - This one is mis-spelled lol
+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ZpcugfuzA - Romanised title
+ https://soundcloud.com/tofubeats/first- ... -streaming - No brackets here either
add kibbleru to the tags
update the whole set before moddingEinja wrote:
when you bubble but the other diffs still have the 40bpm
Seems like Banter has some good points that are well explained, would like to see a response to them
Topic Starter
banter wrote:
I feel like there are some spacing issues in the last two diffs regarding the streams at the end.
fanzhen's Extra fanzhen's decisions can be explained with calming down at 03:30:618 - point to build suspense to the very last stream of 03:35:774 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
Sweet Surrender I am emphasizing the 2 most important and polar opposite sounds in the song here (03:25:368 - this and 03:26:118 - ) with my arrangement. This kind of going from 100 to 0 is very good to catch those 2 sounds with the added snap movement that the player has to do and you can really feel the impact of the snap because of the arrangement.
winber1's diff also has misrepresentations of music. at 02:45:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the music doesn't change in intensity and should have consistent spacing, however it's mapped as if there's a diminuendo. winber choose to approach this part without streams and his arrangement is built upon the same big distance snap movement at crucial parts like in the top diff
Fixed everything Sinnoh pointed out!
repairing
02:56:118 (3) -
02:56:493 (6) -
That two circles aren't stacked correctly, maybe its done on purpose. Just looks weird to me
https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/pOqHfLW.png
02:56:493 (6) -
That two circles aren't stacked correctly, maybe its done on purpose. Just looks weird to me
https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/pOqHfLW.png
I just see winber1's
02:06:993 (2) - There is Normal hs on its tail, but others are not
*no kds*
02:06:993 (2) - There is Normal hs on its tail, but others are not
*no kds*
Topic Starter
its done on purpose to prevent a bigger stacking issue.PoNo wrote:
02:56:118 (3) -
02:56:493 (6) -
That two circles aren't stacked correctly, maybe its done on purpose. Just looks weird to me
https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/pOqHfLW.png
will fix during next mod, no need to pop for such a minor thingBoatKrab wrote:
I just see winber1's
02:06:993 (2) - There is Normal hs on its tail, but others are not
*no kds*
Ok ! :pProfessionalBox wrote:
its done on purpose to prevent a bigger stacking issue.PoNo wrote:
02:56:118 (3) -
02:56:493 (6) -
That two circles aren't stacked correctly, maybe its done on purpose. Just looks weird to me
https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/pOqHfLW.png
looking at the map I thought the same way. However I find it interesting to see where patterns are more important than representing the music 100% and where the limit can be drawn. Thanks for clearing it up!ProfessionalBox wrote:
banter wrote:
I feel like there are some spacing issues in the last two diffs regarding the streams at the end.
fanzhen's Extra fanzhen's decisions can be explained with calming down at 03:30:618 - point to build suspense to the very last stream of 03:35:774 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
Sweet Surrender I am emphasizing the 2 most important and polar opposite sounds in the song here (03:25:368 - this and 03:26:118 - ) with my arrangement. This kind of going from 100 to 0 is very good to catch those 2 sounds with the added snap movement that the player has to do and you can really feel the impact of the snap because of the arrangement.
winber1's diff also has misrepresentations of music. at 02:45:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the music doesn't change in intensity and should have consistent spacing, however it's mapped as if there's a diminuendo. winber choose to approach this part without streams and his arrangement is built upon the same big distance snap movement at crucial parts like in the top diff
Fixed everything Sinnoh pointed out!
@probox could you remove the NC on 01:56:305 (1) - on our diff before this gets qualified
sick map
bretty good map probox
liking how it's coming along.sweet surrender feels like it's trying too hard to be technical though,so work on getting that stigma off.
hope to see this with a leaderboard some day! good luck
storyboard
could go with a bit of background movement.like the bg should move as though there's a parallax shenanigans going on
Fanzhen's Extra
00:12:618 (1) - these sliders would be a bit nicer if the slider ends were silent.
00:23:118 (1,2,1,2) - should be gradually shrinking in slider velocity
00:33:618 (1,2,3) - instead of copying 00:30:618 (1,2,3) ,should this not copy 00:24:618 (1,2,3) ?it would make the section seem a lot more varied,especially since you use a different style every single iteration of the section anyways.
00:38:868 (3,4) - four short sliders instead of two 1/2 sliders might match the music a bit better.
00:45:618 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this should gradually shrink,but not like in my recommendation in sweet surrender.instead because the spacing is already kinda high in 00:44:868 (1,2,3,4) ,so it would only be fitting that it counter-acted on what 00:44:868 (1,2,3,4) did before it.
00:52:555 (2) - can be like 00:52:368 (1) before it.
01:01:743 (5) - should either be spaced a bit more or use a short slider to differentiate it from 01:01:368 (1,2,3,4) preceding it.
01:02:493 (1,2) - a long slider might do the trick better than two beats here.
01:04:368 (1) - would have interesting flow if ctrl+g'd
01:04:930 (3) - having an important sound so close to 01:04:649 (2) feels a bit odd.maybe change this
01:06:243 (1) - don't see why this needs an nc.
01:08:493 (1) - this can be two beats in the same stack as 01:08:305 (2,3) ,as this delivers the rhythm better and differentiates 01:08:586 (2,3,4) more.
01:10:368 (1) - seems a bit lazy.
01:39:149 - this sound goes unmapped
01:51:524 - pretty important sound here too unmapped
02:00:243 (4) - this can be 1/2 instead of 3/4
02:08:118 (3) - not sure how i feel about this being here
03:36:055 (1) - maybe nc here.
00:23:118 (1,2,1,2) - should be gradually shrinking in slider velocity
00:33:618 (1,2,3) - instead of copying 00:30:618 (1,2,3) ,should this not copy 00:24:618 (1,2,3) ?it would make the section seem a lot more varied,especially since you use a different style every single iteration of the section anyways.
00:38:868 (3,4) - four short sliders instead of two 1/2 sliders might match the music a bit better.
00:45:618 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this should gradually shrink,but not like in my recommendation in sweet surrender.instead because the spacing is already kinda high in 00:44:868 (1,2,3,4) ,so it would only be fitting that it counter-acted on what 00:44:868 (1,2,3,4) did before it.
00:52:555 (2) - can be like 00:52:368 (1) before it.
01:01:743 (5) - should either be spaced a bit more or use a short slider to differentiate it from 01:01:368 (1,2,3,4) preceding it.
01:02:493 (1,2) - a long slider might do the trick better than two beats here.
01:04:368 (1) - would have interesting flow if ctrl+g'd
01:04:930 (3) - having an important sound so close to 01:04:649 (2) feels a bit odd.maybe change this
01:06:243 (1) - don't see why this needs an nc.
01:08:493 (1) - this can be two beats in the same stack as 01:08:305 (2,3) ,as this delivers the rhythm better and differentiates 01:08:586 (2,3,4) more.
01:10:368 (1) - seems a bit lazy.
01:39:149 - this sound goes unmapped
01:51:524 - pretty important sound here too unmapped
02:00:243 (4) - this can be 1/2 instead of 3/4
02:08:118 (3) - not sure how i feel about this being here
03:36:055 (1) - maybe nc here.
Sweet Surrender
00:22:555 (2,3,4) - would look pretty dope if 00:22:743 (3,4) were moved to overlap the peaks of the slider superseding it.though i can't make it look good for shit,you're like 10x more experienced than i am.
00:47:118 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - don't get why it's spacing more.it would be nicer if instead the stream was spacing less into the kiai.
00:49:836 (2) - why doesn't this overlap 00:49:836 (2) ? is it like flow or something and i'm just too stupid to notice
00:52:368 (3) - should be a slider.
00:55:368 (1,2,3,4) - would look bretty cool if 00:55:461 (2) and 00:55:649 (4) had ctrl+g on them and would go with the 'wub' more
00:56:305 (1,2,3) - a bit dangerous if this is getting ranked.the cross screen triples by rrtyui was already pushing it,this spits in its face.if it's not getting ranked than who cares disregard this.
00:59:305 (2,2) - having these replaced with straight sliders like pic related looks cool af (don't copy this though this is shit and wouldn't flow well with 00:59:868 (1,2) ):
01:00:618 (1) - maybe nicer as a slow slider instead
01:04:649 (2) - there's an important sound on the tail of this slider.not sure if you wanna shorten the slider and add a beat next to 01:04:930 (3) or something but it should at least be notable.like maybe a little hook on the end of the slider to show there's an important sound around there (again don't copy line for line any shit i do).
actually,this map has a lot of problems with putting slider ends on important sounds.not sure if you wanna clear those up or that would take too long and be too tedious.
01:05:305 (1,2) - a bit overmapped. 01:05:305 (1) shouldn't exist.
01:10:555 (1) - shouldn't this be linked with 01:10:180 (1,2) before it?like take out the nc and put it on 01:10:743 (2) ,move it closer towards 01:10:368 (2) or something,just make it not a part of 01:10:555 (1,2) .
01:26:118 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - a bit overmapped.just stress the beat on 01:26:118 (1,3,1) and you're good.
01:29:118 (1,2,1,2) - this might be cooler if it was like a horizontal version of 01:27:618 (1,2,1,2,1,2) .
01:57:618 (1) - why can't the spinner start here?
02:05:493 (2) - this should be a bit shorter so that it ends on the blue tick before 02:05:868 (1) .like use a smaller slider velocity there.
02:11:774 (1) - maybe make this like 02:11:493 (1) .
02:12:055 (1) - move the nc from here to 02:12:243 (2) .
02:24:618 (2) - there's no nc here?
02:35:868 (1,2,3,4) - this can just be a normal stream
02:36:993 (5,1,2) - these can be like two short sliders and the nc can start on 02:37:368 (3) instead.
02:39:993 (5,1,2) - same dealio here.
02:54:805 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - i think this is overmapped a bit.
03:04:368 (3) - this could be a short slider unless you wanted to follow 03:03:805 (1,2,3) before it.
03:06:618 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - needs a bit of cleaning.especially since 03:07:086 goes unmapped.
03:12:618 (4) - feels weird not having that be an nc
03:15:618 (4) - then again,if it's a pattern,i guess it's fine
00:47:118 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - don't get why it's spacing more.it would be nicer if instead the stream was spacing less into the kiai.
00:49:836 (2) - why doesn't this overlap 00:49:836 (2) ? is it like flow or something and i'm just too stupid to notice
00:52:368 (3) - should be a slider.
00:55:368 (1,2,3,4) - would look bretty cool if 00:55:461 (2) and 00:55:649 (4) had ctrl+g on them and would go with the 'wub' more
00:56:305 (1,2,3) - a bit dangerous if this is getting ranked.the cross screen triples by rrtyui was already pushing it,this spits in its face.if it's not getting ranked than who cares disregard this.
00:59:305 (2,2) - having these replaced with straight sliders like pic related looks cool af (don't copy this though this is shit and wouldn't flow well with 00:59:868 (1,2) ):
01:00:618 (1) - maybe nicer as a slow slider instead
01:04:649 (2) - there's an important sound on the tail of this slider.not sure if you wanna shorten the slider and add a beat next to 01:04:930 (3) or something but it should at least be notable.like maybe a little hook on the end of the slider to show there's an important sound around there (again don't copy line for line any shit i do).
actually,this map has a lot of problems with putting slider ends on important sounds.not sure if you wanna clear those up or that would take too long and be too tedious.
01:05:305 (1,2) - a bit overmapped. 01:05:305 (1) shouldn't exist.
01:10:555 (1) - shouldn't this be linked with 01:10:180 (1,2) before it?like take out the nc and put it on 01:10:743 (2) ,move it closer towards 01:10:368 (2) or something,just make it not a part of 01:10:555 (1,2) .
01:26:118 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - a bit overmapped.just stress the beat on 01:26:118 (1,3,1) and you're good.
01:29:118 (1,2,1,2) - this might be cooler if it was like a horizontal version of 01:27:618 (1,2,1,2,1,2) .
01:57:618 (1) - why can't the spinner start here?
02:05:493 (2) - this should be a bit shorter so that it ends on the blue tick before 02:05:868 (1) .like use a smaller slider velocity there.
02:11:774 (1) - maybe make this like 02:11:493 (1) .
02:12:055 (1) - move the nc from here to 02:12:243 (2) .
02:24:618 (2) - there's no nc here?
02:35:868 (1,2,3,4) - this can just be a normal stream
02:36:993 (5,1,2) - these can be like two short sliders and the nc can start on 02:37:368 (3) instead.
02:39:993 (5,1,2) - same dealio here.
02:54:805 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - i think this is overmapped a bit.
03:04:368 (3) - this could be a short slider unless you wanted to follow 03:03:805 (1,2,3) before it.
03:06:618 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - needs a bit of cleaning.especially since 03:07:086 goes unmapped.
03:12:618 (4) - feels weird not having that be an nc
03:15:618 (4) - then again,if it's a pattern,i guess it's fine
bretty good map probox
liking how it's coming along.sweet surrender feels like it's trying too hard to be technical though,so work on getting that stigma off.
hope to see this with a leaderboard some day! good luck
since modding v2 is coming here's a free 40kds courtesy of mine truly
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02:04:836 (1) - think this would be cooler if it was just a circle, since there is no vocal here and you presumably are using the 1/8 sliders because of the vocal on 02:04:555 (1) -, also later you decide to use an extended slider here instead of mapping this note at 02:07:649 (1) - so is there a reason for that inconsistency? can't tell if the sound changes but it sounds the exact same to me
02:04:930 (1) - accidental lower volume? it sounds really weird, would bump it up to 60 cause it makes it sound like a missed sampleset
02:07:555 (2) - should be a 1/8 slider for consistency with 02:04:555 -
02:08:680 (2) - why map this note when you dont map it at any of the gaps like 02:02:680 - or 02:05:680 - where it's just as strong? if you insist on mapping this note please make it a 1/4 slider because 02:08:680 (2,1) - this sort of spacing/structure really reads as a 1/4 gap not a 1/2 one
02:12:055 (1,2) - if these sliders were a bit slower sv then 02:12:430 (1) - would be a lot more emphasized, since there are no real huge emphasized sounds on these notes when compared to 02:12:430 (1) - i dont get why they need to be so fast
that whole section is also literally unplayable in comparison to the rest of the map, which sucks because the map is quite enjoyable
02:12:711 - this part is REALLY good to play though this is super nice
02:52:180 (1,2,3) - might want to make these a touch slower, really small window for the slider ends + it would read a little better since they're straight making them long af and can look like 1/4: just a minor thing though
03:12:993 - making 03:13:930 - clickable as seen in this screenshot would follow the song a lot better and be more intuitive, i don't think its very clear in this section to the player what you're following in relation to the song, especially since you make it clickable 03:14:680 - it just makes sense
applies to the whole section including stuff like 03:16:743 (1,2,1,2) - where i really have no clue whats goin on in terms of why these are clickable
nice map, just wanted to throw in my opinion before qualify
02:04:836 (1) - think this would be cooler if it was just a circle, since there is no vocal here and you presumably are using the 1/8 sliders because of the vocal on 02:04:555 (1) -, also later you decide to use an extended slider here instead of mapping this note at 02:07:649 (1) - so is there a reason for that inconsistency? can't tell if the sound changes but it sounds the exact same to me
02:04:930 (1) - accidental lower volume? it sounds really weird, would bump it up to 60 cause it makes it sound like a missed sampleset
02:07:555 (2) - should be a 1/8 slider for consistency with 02:04:555 -
02:08:680 (2) - why map this note when you dont map it at any of the gaps like 02:02:680 - or 02:05:680 - where it's just as strong? if you insist on mapping this note please make it a 1/4 slider because 02:08:680 (2,1) - this sort of spacing/structure really reads as a 1/4 gap not a 1/2 one
02:12:055 (1,2) - if these sliders were a bit slower sv then 02:12:430 (1) - would be a lot more emphasized, since there are no real huge emphasized sounds on these notes when compared to 02:12:430 (1) - i dont get why they need to be so fast
that whole section is also literally unplayable in comparison to the rest of the map, which sucks because the map is quite enjoyable
02:12:711 - this part is REALLY good to play though this is super nice
02:52:180 (1,2,3) - might want to make these a touch slower, really small window for the slider ends + it would read a little better since they're straight making them long af and can look like 1/4: just a minor thing though
03:12:993 - making 03:13:930 - clickable as seen in this screenshot would follow the song a lot better and be more intuitive, i don't think its very clear in this section to the player what you're following in relation to the song, especially since you make it clickable 03:14:680 - it just makes sense
applies to the whole section including stuff like 03:16:743 (1,2,1,2) - where i really have no clue whats goin on in terms of why these are clickable
nice map, just wanted to throw in my opinion before qualify
Topic Starter
uhh, ok. Just saying that the part which is in your opinion "super nice" and "really good to play" is the part which most people have to just spam to get through while my "unplayable section" isn't giving much trouble other than hitting all the slidertails. I don't know what to take away from this since it doesn't make any sense to me in the sense that my part is unplayble compared to the one after which is really good to play while in truth both are crazy, will reply with fixes/no fixes later if I ever find another nominator.Kaifin wrote:
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that whole section is also literally unplayable in comparison to the rest of the map, which sucks because the map is quite enjoyable
02:12:711 - this part is REALLY good to play though this is super nice
ProfessionalBox wrote:
uhh, ok. Just saying that the part which is in your opinion "super nice" and "really good to play" is the part which most people have to just spam to get through while my "unplayable section" isn't giving much trouble other than hitting all the slidertails. I don't know what to take away from this since it doesn't make any sense to me in the sense that my part is unplayble compared to the one after which is really good to play while in truth both are crazy, will reply with fixes/no fixes later if I ever find another nominator.
i wasn't referring to the difficulty of either section: handsome's section is without a doubt the hardest section of the map by far, but it's fair difficulty
i don't find your section to be fair, unique or challenging like that section is, instead it's just unplayable 4.0x sliders with bad flow with no consistency or logic
it looks really pretty, but it's not fun to play for me
the kind of player who can fc this map/play this map well can reasonably play handsome's section because it's very very very well mapped (in my opinion), but i'm not sure if i could say the same about your segment which really feels sloppy in comparison to the rest of your parts in this map
to restate again: i like this map a lot, and it's just my opinion about it, i didn't mean to come off badly or for you to read into what i said more than it just being my opinion
that being said, i don't think its fair to use "most people just spam to get through handsome's section anyways" as an excuse to make things play badly/unreasonably uncomfortably in your section.. if you can hit all the parts in handsome's section, it's comfortable and makes sense, where as if you can follow all the sliders in your section to their end and SS it, it feels awful to play
that was the point i was trying to get across, sorry for not elaborating more
Topic Starter
When did I ever use it as an excuse? You are the one who is saying the part plays bad whereas I think it has no issues flowwise, whether you follow the sliders to their ends fully or cheat on them, in either case the flow of them is practically flawless, the speed is what might and will throw you off on this. If I thought it was badly mapped / unplayable do you really think I wouldn't have changed it as the mapper of the section? Since I feel like my part has no issues flowwise your comment naturally came off to me as relatively aggressive saying that it was simply put "unplayable" compared to the part which I have seen giving much more trouble to almost every player...Kaifin wrote:
that being said, i don't think its fair to use "most people just spam to get through handsome's section anyways" as an excuse to make things play badly/unreasonably uncomfortably in your section..
Thanks for clarification on your comment though because without you elaborating on your intentions you came off in quite a bad way to me and it was probably seen in the way I responded. Anyways like I said earlier, will see if I fix something or not later but in any case thanks for the input!
Sick map. Cute and very fast. I suggest to lower AR tho. 
Topic Starter
Thanks for mod!-Nishiki- wrote:
sick map
storyboard
could go with a bit of background movement.like the bg should move as though there's a parallax shenanigans going on I ordered it like this,
very minimalistic.Fanzhen's Extra00:12:618 (1) - these sliders would be a bit nicer if the slider ends were silent. agree
00:23:118 (1,2,1,2) - should be gradually shrinking in slider velocity no need
00:33:618 (1,2,3) - instead of copying 00:30:618 (1,2,3) ,should this not copy 00:24:618 (1,2,3) ?it would make the section seem a lot more varied,especially since you use a different style every single iteration of the section anyways. I think it's good variety like this, every single one of these doesn't need to be the same [/color]
00:38:868 (3,4) - four short sliders instead of two 1/2 sliders might match the music a bit better. Buildup like this creates more suspense on the next part so it is fine to have like this.
00:45:618 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this should gradually shrink,but not like in my recommendation in sweet surrender.instead because the spacing is already kinda high in 00:44:868 (1,2,3,4) ,so it would only be fitting that it counter-acted on what 00:44:868 (1,2,3,4) did before it. yeah this shouldn't shrink in the first place imo, current way is fine
00:52:555 (2) - can be like 00:52:368 (1) before it. 2 different sounds so he didn't want 2 same sliders
01:01:743 (5) - should either be spaced a bit more or use a short slider to differentiate it from 01:01:368 (1,2,3,4) preceding it. No need to increase spacing as this is up to interpretation and fanzhen used this spacing consistently in the drop
01:02:493 (1,2) - a long slider might do the trick better than two beats here. I'd say this is preference again, I like the 2 circles myself
01:04:368 (1) - would have interesting flow if ctrl+g'd Interesting doesn't always mean better :^)
01:04:930 (3) - having an important sound so close to 01:04:649 (2) feels a bit odd.maybe change this it builds a triangle with 01:04:368 (1,2,3) - so hence this placement is a must
01:06:243 (1) - don't see why this needs an nc. NC supports reading here imo. Also having no followpoint from the center is more aesthetic
01:08:493 (1) - this can be two beats in the same stack as 01:08:305 (2,3) ,as this delivers the rhythm better and differentiates 01:08:586 (2,3,4) more. This puts emphasis on the very fast 1/8 slider to have them arranged like this seperately from the stack in addition to looking better and completing the pattern
01:10:368 (1) - seems a bit lazy. fanzhen didn't use spacing increase streams in the section at all so this doesn't suddenly call for one either imo. Also since the kiai already climaxed this is tehcnically a cooldown anyways so it should be easier than the parts before
01:39:149 - this sound goes unmapped Follows synth so not having the drum here is understandable (takes away from the synth to have a circle on the drum)
01:51:524 - pretty important sound here too unmapped added a circle
02:00:243 (4) - this can be 1/2 instead of 3/4 Current way emphasises the first object of the kiai much better, the faster snap motion created by the extra length is very essential
02:08:118 (3) - not sure how i feel about this being here I feel its fine
03:36:055 (1) - maybe nc here. This was an obvious design choice so not gonna touchSweet Surrender00:22:555 (2,3,4) - would look pretty dope if 00:22:743 (3,4) were moved to overlap the peaks of the slider superseding it.though i can't make it look good for shit,you're like 10x more experienced than i am. eh? Not sure what you mean but the current way is just fine.
00:47:118 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - don't get why it's spacing more.it would be nicer if instead the stream was spacing less into the kiai. This should obviously be spacing increase in my opinion, no intention at all to change it.
00:49:836 (2) - why doesn't this overlap 00:49:836 (2) ? is it like flow or something and i'm just too stupid to notice 00:49:743 (1,2,3) - triangle pattern, also helps reading
00:52:368 (3) - should be a slider. 00:52:618 (1) - nope because of this starting at a very unique time. Also 2 distinct sounds so one should be circle one slider
00:55:368 (1,2,3,4) - would look bretty cool if 00:55:461 (2) and 00:55:649 (4) had ctrl+g on them and would go with the 'wub' more Current way is aes and good, no need to change
00:56:305 (1,2,3) - a bit dangerous if this is getting ranked.the cross screen triples by rrtyui was already pushing it,this spits in its face.if it's not getting ranked than who cares disregard this. 160bpm = all the difference in the world
00:59:305 (2,2) - having these replaced with straight sliders like pic related looks cool af (don't copy this though this is shit and wouldn't flow well with 00:59:868 (1,2) The movement is more fun without sliders. Also the vocal sound is very short on these timestamps so therefore simple circle is better in terms of following music too
01:00:618 (1) - maybe nicer as a slow slider instead Following the "unwind" sound which is rapidly repeating
01:04:649 (2) - there's an important sound on the tail of this slider.not sure if you wanna shorten the slider and add a beat next to 01:04:930 (3) or something but it should at least be notable.like maybe a little hook on the end of the slider to show there's an important sound around there (again don't copy line for line any shit i do). So many sounds happening at one time that I chose to follow the ones I found most necessary. Here I'm following the the "yea" sounds.
01:05:305 (1,2) - a bit overmapped. 01:05:305 (1) shouldn't exist. For such a cluttered section I feel like this bit of overmap is just fine.
It feels more natural than not having anything there thats for sure
01:10:555 (1) - shouldn't this be linked with 01:10:180 (1,2) before it?like take out the nc and put it on 01:10:743 (2) ,move it closer towards 01:10:368 (2) or something,just make it not a part of 01:10:555 (1,2) . 01:09:899 (2,1,2) - structure
01:26:118 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - a bit overmapped.just stress the beat on 01:26:118 (1,3,1) and you're good. Mapped to vocals + the lead melody as I find this the most appropriate (not landing a circle on a vocal would feel weird)
01:29:118 (1,2,1,2) - this might be cooler if it was like a horizontal version of 01:27:618 (1,2,1,2,1,2) . I did something else here, its the exact same version as I think it fits nicely!
01:57:618 (1) - why can't the spinner start here? 95% of this difficulty maps map the first sound of a measure before putting a spinner afterwards. It feels more natural to click on this very important sound and spin afterwards rather than just start spinning on it right away
02:05:493 (2) - this should be a bit shorter so that it ends on the blue tick before 02:05:868 (1) .like use a smaller slider velocity there. Exact same sound as the one before so its the same like it should be
02:11:774 (1) - maybe make this like 02:11:493 (1) . Slowdown slider fits here perfectly
02:12:055 (1) - move the nc from here to 02:12:243 (2) . NC here indicates difference in slider velocity relative to last object
02:24:618 (2) - there's no nc here? Not having NC here is because of the pattern being built on 1-2 pairing jumps
02:35:868 (1,2,3,4) - this can just be a normal stream I think this catches what is going on better
02:36:993 (5,1,2) - these can be like two short sliders and the nc can start on 02:37:368 (3) instead. I don't see any issues with my current way
02:39:993 (5,1,2) - same dealio here. ^
02:54:805 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - i think this is overmapped a bit. drums
03:04:368 (3) - this could be a short slider unless you wanted to follow 03:03:805 (1,2,3) before it. Consistent with previous pattern and the gap in music is supported by this being a circle
03:06:618 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - needs a bit of cleaning.especially since 03:07:086 goes unmapped. Following synth
03:12:618 (4) - feels weird not having that be an nc Next object has nc, no need to have 2 in a row
03:15:618 (4) - then again,if it's a pattern,i guess it's fine presicely!
bretty good map probox
liking how it's coming along.sweet surrender feels like it's trying too hard to be technical though,so work on getting that stigma off.
hope to see this with a leaderboard some day! good luck
Qualified 
Sweet Surrender
00:09:618 (1) - doesn't this go offscreen? It looks like it does
00:09:618 (1) - doesn't this go offscreen? It looks like it does
No, this is onscreen on both 4:3 and 16:9 resolutions. (the only ones that matter)Vacuous wrote:
Sweet Surrender
00:09:618 (1) - doesn't this go offscreen? It looks like it does
Please reply to my mod it had parts from both you and handsome 
i just wanted to give my opinion specifically before you ranked it as to not disturb the ranking process
i just wanted to give my opinion specifically before you ranked it as to not disturb the ranking process: ((((Kaifin wrote:
Please reply to my mod it had parts from both you and handsome
Pre-nerf ver. better.
Topic Starter
I remember going over your points but I forgot to reply to them when I replied to the other mod before qualify so my apologies for that. I will edit this comment to be the reply for my part and I know that handsome went over the mods aswell since we discussed the content of them in-game, but he didn't want to update anything.Kaifin wrote:
Please reply to my mod it had parts from both you and handsome
I know but rules are rulestheowest wrote:
Pre-nerf ver. better.
I was just thinking about the song and when I checked - qualified
gratz!!
gratz!!
Kaifin wrote:
02:52:180 (1,2,3) - might want to make these a touch slower, really small window for the slider ends + it would read a little better since they're straight making them long af and can look like 1/4: just a minor thing though consistency with 02:49:180 (1) -
03:12:993 - making 03:13:930 - clickable as seen in this screenshot would follow the song a lot better and be more intuitive don't really understand where you're coming from, i'm mapping to the vocal/synth/beeps/idkwhattocallit. the second beep at 03:13:836 - is really loud and clear compared to others, but it pairs pretty well with 03:14:024 (1,2) - . i thought it was already pretty clear lol
yes pls
is really 02:24:571 (1) - on fanzhen meant to be snapped that way? owo
Topic Starter
Most likely not... I will ask fanzhen but I doubt that this was intentional. Would have been too good to have this get through qualified first try and this is a lame disqualify xdMilan- wrote:
is really 02:24:571 (1) - on fanzhen meant to be snapped that way? owo
02:24:618 (1) - shit's broken yo
Topic Starter
Fixed this also snapped the whole pattern to 1/4 instead of 1/8 to make more sense and removed NC from 02:32:868 - AND removed hitsound from 02:41:868 (1) -Okorin wrote:
02:24:618 (1) - shit's broken yo
ALSO
Will be raising Sweet Surrender to AR10 to fix this part 02:54:618 - . On current ar (9,9) its too low and the taiko stack here breaks but with ar10 it gets fixed (literally 0,1 is the difference here). Also modified angle and overlapping position of 01:08:305 (1) - for my own sanity (I don't think I could have been able to live with the previous angle on this.)
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I FEEL FUCKIN WOKE
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Not-Miraie wrote:
This map was in Qualified. Not anymore
Man, why'd this have to be DQ'd. I get it if something is broken in the map, but I'd love for this to be ranked. It's so interesting and fun to play/watch.
give it 19 hours
if u get why its broken then thats why it has to be dq lolInvisFrames wrote:
Man, why'd this have to be DQ'd. I get it if something is broken in the map, but I'd love for this to be ranked. It's so interesting and fun to play/watch.
meh he just need to fix this and then it will back to qualify sectionInvisFrames wrote:
Man, why'd this have to be DQ'd. I get it if something is broken in the map, but I'd love for this to be ranked. It's so interesting and fun to play/watch.
SOON
this map is definitely getting qualified again once the mistake is fixed, it's just how it is
Hold up one sec, the ranking criteria was updated so that slider bodies with perfect overlaps are now rankable. You could revert the overlaps back to what they were originally if you want.
https://github.com/ppy/osu-wiki/pull/840
edit: wait you already knew, I forgot since I read your response at 4 am
https://github.com/ppy/osu-wiki/pull/840
edit: wait you already knew, I forgot since I read your response at 4 am
02:21:618 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - in fanzhen's diff still somewhat unplayable, thought it'd get changed bummer
bummer
Topic Starter
reverted perfect overlaps in top diff and nathan diff since its now allowed in rc!
edit: Added better quality image for Nathan diff!
edit: Added better quality image for Nathan diff!
Perfect overlaps are back
good job probox
Edit: he said this looks better we're all going to die soon
Topic Starter
yeayea, shouldn't need a rebubble before requalify since changed thisScubDomino wrote:
good job probox
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Hello.
This Beatmap got qualified before the 24h after the Bubble passed.
Please wait from now on 2h before re-qualify it again
Reverted to Bubble
This Beatmap got qualified before the 24h after the Bubble passed.
Please wait from now on 2h before re-qualify it again
Reverted to Bubble
rip
Topic Starter
Kurai wrote:
Don't worry man time is subjective
fanzhen's Extra
02:24:618 - two green points at the same time with different values btw
02:24:618 - two green points at the same time with different values btw
Topic Starter
unreal... Fixed. I wonder if there is an award for sloppiest mapperMariahCarey wrote:
fanzhen's Extra
02:24:618 - two green points at the same time with different values btw
Hahahaha
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Topic Starter
Can i shoot a star real quick? uwu