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Kazumi Totaka - K.K. Song [Taiko]

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Topic Starter
Weber

Arrival wrote:

Hey !

[Kantan]

00:14:344 - Add a note here so it doesn't feel too empty sure
00:32:493 - And here too. sure

[Futsuu]

Nothing to say xd

[Oni]

00:20:349 (98,99) - What about two finishers here ? (+here too obvsly 00:37:431 (98,99) - ) If I made these finishers, I would have to make 00:18:614 (91,93,95,97) - finishers as well, and thats just too dense imo

Well that's all lol

Good luck for this short map
Thanks for the mod!
Lumenite-
Sup frog

[Ayyri's Muzukashii]
  1. Fix the metadata, the songs are out of order because this diff doesn't have the same metadata as the others
  2. Offset in this difficulty is different than in the Oni
  3. BPM is slower here by .2
  4. 00:07:140 - This could be shortened to a simple ddk kkd
  5. 00:11:415 - The same goes here
  6. 00:13:151 - Remove this note, and place one at 00:13:285
  7. 00:17:425 - Same ^ not mentioned at 00:15:288 just for variation purposes
  8. 00:18:494 - You could also remove this note
  9. 00:24:772 - Same as 00:07:140
  10. 00:28:512 - Same^
Neat song, gl w/ rank
davidminh0111
Mod:
Oni
-00:37:831: You should add the Finish in d
-00:24:086: add d or k here.
-00:32:493: NC here.
-00:34:628: NC

Muzukashii:
-00:27:822: Add d or k
-00:14:477: Add Finish
-00:17:013: Add Finish

Sorry for short mod because your beatmap is too short. Thank you
Topic Starter
Weber

davidminh0111 wrote:

Mod:
Oni
-00:37:831: You should add the Finish in d not really any need for finishes in this song as it's all kind of the same intensity
-00:24:086: add d or k here. sure
-00:32:493: NC here. not really sure what you mean by this
-00:34:628: NC

Muzukashii:
-00:27:822: Add d or k sure
-00:14:477: Add Finish
-00:17:013: Add Finish

Sorry for short mod because your beatmap is too short. Thank you
Thanks for the mod! Updated.
Diva Days
From Queue (forgot to make img for this..)


[Futsuu]

00:06:870 (9),(10) - swap this for some variety.
00:14:877 (28),(29) - ^
00:31:959 (28),(29) - ^

[Oni]

00:08:405 (31),(32) - swap this, (31) is same sound as (30)
00:09:673 (39) - change to k
00:13:009 (59),(60) - swap this, (59) is same sound as (58)
00:15:144 (71).(72) - ^
00:17:280 (83),(84) - ^
00:25:487 (31),(32) - ^
00:30:091 (60),(61) - ^
00:32:226 (72).(73) - ^
00:34:361 (84),(85) - ^
Aurele
revive please

waiting on the confirmation that every mods has been correctly responded :)
Aurele
:3c
Surono
00:00:331 - tenettttttttttt :o *bad sign

>Oni
* 00:24:086 - delet this.jpg

>Muzukashii
* edit: why hp 5 residentsleeper
* well still a bit close with density Oni...
* 00:07:271 - delete, 00:07:404 - yeh its enough with 5plet here and good to start here with that beat e.g 00:09:539 - this 5plet
* 00:11:541 -
* 00:35:296 - similar pattern with oni, delete.. and next
* and similar parts, its good tho if you using more ddkkd and had kkddk as variation cuz kkddkkd it makes similar with oni

>Futsuu
* 00:07:137 - 00:24:219 - both add here d, you see ayyri diff that has 7plet orz hope ayyri would delete them.. dem dem spread

yeh not big issues overall, ez song..
Topic Starter
Weber
All changes accepted, updated.
Surono
I want to c #mania cuz I mapped dragonforced

rank my PieNo thxxxz
Aurele
congrats my boy!
Surono
give me kudosu teye
Im nut using previus modder'z accounts orz dont like that pls

edit,
gratz FrogET sorry if me always Frogot cuz im :resident_sleeper: always
Akasha-
O w O
Raiden
Hello! I have some concerns regarding the spread of this mapset, more specifically the difficulty surrounding Ayyri's Muzukashii.

For starters, the note density already denotes something is not going too well:

Futsuu has a total of 85 notes, Muzu has a total of 181 notes, and Oni has a total of 204 notes.

Moreover, Muzukashii is significantly lacking of 3/2 and/or 2/1 breaks (the only 3/2 break is at 00:18:748 - 00:19:281 - and their respective 00:35:829 - 00:36:363 - at the ending )

I'm going to suggest some places in which you can delete notes in Muzukashii in order to balance the spread between Futsuu and Oni

[Ayyri's Muzukashii]
00:06:070 -
00:10:874 -
00:16:079 (71,72,73) -
(repeat for 2nd half)
00:23:151 -
00:27:956 (132,133) -

Moreover, you can make some additions in Futsuu to further balance the spread.
[Futsuu]
2/1 in Futsuu is supposed to be the main break element, not the main rhythm element. So you can fill some parts to have 1/1 rhythms more consistently, such as:
00:09:806 -
00:22:618 -
00:27:422 -

Same would apply in Kantan, as 4/1 is the main break element, while 2/1 should be the main rhythm accompanied with occasional 1/1 and 4/1 breaks.

However, since this song is significantly high BPM and our guidelines specify that they apply to approximately 180 BPM, I am more lenient about the Kantan and Futsuu issues. Still, Muzukashii doesn't follow your line of reasoning and as such, the spread gets imbalanced around it.

Let me know if you agree!
Topic Starter
Weber
Sure i'll agree with those changes, Ayyri does too I guess.

Ayyri Log
Log
Frog - Yesterday at 10:46 PM
p/6293268
mod from raiden on totaka
ei - Yesterday at 11:02 PM
wots ur opinion
Frog - Yesterday at 11:02 PM
i think it makes sense
muzu is pretty similar to oni in density
raiden is a smart boye
ei - Yesterday at 11:02 PM
yeha
bc song is so boring
not being similar is pretty d
Frog - Yesterday at 11:03 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
October 10, 2017
ei - Today at 12:05 AM
Kazumi_Totaka_-_K.K._Song_Weber_Ayyris_Muzukashii.osu
5.62 KB
is this wot he wanted
Frog - Today at 12:05 AM
sure
gl
Raiden
disqualified as requested
Raiden
upon further discussion on IRC chat, the spread looks more acceptable now.

Rebubbled!

SPOILER
16:39 Raiden: you better be ready
16:40 Weber: im lubing up
16:40 Raiden: since muzu is this dense, we have two choices here
16:40 Raiden: either beef up kantan and futsuu significantly
16:40 Raiden: or nerf muzukashii
16:41 Weber: i like the idea that doesn't involve making ari do more work
16:41 Raiden: okay
16:41 Raiden: kantan first
16:41 *Weber is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1181620 Kazumi Totaka - K.K. Song [Kantan]]
16:42 Raiden: 00:04:468 - can add a kat
16:42 Raiden: this way it becomes 1/1 in kantan, simple 1/2 in futsuu, long 1/2 in muzu
16:42 Raiden: (or simple 1/4 in muzu)
16:43 Weber: sounds good
16:43 Raiden: 00:04:735 - you've got a 4/1 break here, 1/1 usage is justified
16:43 Raiden: 00:06:603 - same
16:43 Raiden: add it also in futsuu
16:44 Weber: 00:08:739 - and 00:11:408 - as well?
16:44 Raiden: yes
16:44 Raiden: I think I really shouldn't point places one by one lol
16:44 Raiden: you got the general message?
16:45 Weber: yep
16:45 Raiden: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/693PIGv.png
16:45 Raiden: the guidelines say "4/1 break every 16/1 of mapping"
16:45 Raiden: aka 4 measures
16:45 Raiden: you have one 4/1 break every 2 measures
16:46 Raiden: song isn't 360 BPM, is it? :D
16:46 Weber: lmao
16:46 Raiden: in Futsuu, same
16:46 Raiden: but with 2/1 breaks
16:46 Raiden: if you beef them up, the spread to muzu won't be as large
16:46 Raiden: and you'll notice how the note count gets more even
16:48 Raiden: to be totally honest I think it is ayyri who should nerf the muzukashii to oblivion lol
16:51 Weber: yeah i guess
16:51 Weber: oh well though
16:51 Weber: updated the kantan, tell me what you think of the replacement for the 4/1 notes
16:52 Raiden: much bette
16:52 Raiden: r
16:52 Raiden: now futsuu
16:53 Raiden: if it ends with around 100-110 notes, you've nailed it
16:56 Weber: 108
16:56 Raiden: great
16:56 Weber: updated, check it out
16:57 Raiden: Oni OD6
16:57 Weber: sure
16:59 Raiden: 00:18:347 - delete this in futsuu
16:59 Raiden: 00:18:614 (8,9,10,11,12,13) - all kats? it's the same as muzu right now
17:00 Weber: all dons then?
17:00 Raiden: or all kats
17:00 Raiden: lol
17:00 Weber: kats better
17:00 Weber: lul
17:01 Weber: updated again
17:03 Raiden: 00:24:486 - fill in kantan
17:03 Raiden: futsuu is full of 1/1 here
17:03 Raiden: oops not that one
17:03 Raiden: 00:22:351 - here
17:04 Weber: done
17:04 Raiden: 00:27:956 - move to 00:28:756 -
17:06 Weber: fixed on both ends of the map
17:08 Raiden: try updating
17:09 Weber: done
17:10 Raiden: 00:09:539 - fill in kantan
17:10 Raiden: futsuu is full 1/1
17:12 Raiden: 00:22:084 - delete in futsuu
17:12 Weber: updated
17:12 Raiden: to give a break after long 1/2 chain
17:13 Weber: also forgot to add at note at 00:05:536 - for consistency with 00:22:618 -
17:14 Weber: updated
17:17 Raiden: muzu still at +60 1
17:17 Raiden: while the rest are at consistent 35-40
17:17 Raiden: eh
17:18 Raiden: still, it's got now some 2/1 rests every 32/1 or so
17:18 Weber: LOL
17:18 Raiden: acceptable
17:18 Raiden: I'll post the log
Surono
Requalified! footshoe has pepe ty
Mechanizen
Map K.K.K Song next time pls
Nardoxyribonucleic
@Weber: You may request DQ if you want in order to fix the file name of Muzukashii in the directory.
Topic Starter
Weber
I mean, it's not really affecting anything, so I don't mind keeping it as is.
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