1. Death (6,76 stars, 2460 notes)

• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

1. All seems okay.

1. 00:38:538 - i suggest changing 00:38:538 - and 00:38:619 - to d, as it fits better with the instrumental. Also if ddddkkd it doesn't sounds good after all you could try dddkkkd changing 00:38:619 - back to k.
2. 01:47:297 - and 01:47:621 - , you was following these guitar sounds with k like in 01:42:108 - but not in 01:47:297 -, i recommend changing some patterns there so it looks more consistent.
3. 02:55:973 - add a d due to the follow of the guitar? it fits good imo. Also, if you accept this suggestion you can do the same in 02:45:594 - for consistency.
4. 03:38:890 - due to the drain time being 4:53, i suggest adding notes from 03:38:890 - to 03:48:067 - for avoid that break, as it needs 5 min for the approval.
5. 04:58:408 - just a personal suggestion here, maybe change to k for avoid players suffer that d spam? (?

Hanjamon wrote:

Hey fruko, here is my m4m (another oneeeeee).

• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

[General]

1. All seems okay.

[Death By Glamou.. i mean, Death]

1. 00:38:538 - i suggest changing 00:38:538 - and 00:38:619 - to d, as it fits better with the instrumental. Also if ddddkkd it doesn't sounds good after all you could try dddkkkd changing 00:38:619 - back to k. Done the first one.
2. 01:47:297 - and 01:47:621 - , you was following these guitar sounds with k like in 01:42:108 - but not in 01:47:297 -, i recommend changing some patterns there so it looks more consistent. Changed the stream to fit the guitar.
3. 02:55:973 - add a d due to the follow of the guitar? it fits good imo. Also, if you accept this suggestion you can do the same in 02:45:594 - for consistency. Disagree here because the guitar is neither 1/4 nor 1/3 exactly, so I chose to follow drums.
4. 03:38:890 - due to the drain time being 4:53, i suggest adding notes from 03:38:890 - to 03:48:067 - for avoid that break, as it needs 5 min for the approval. I thought the breaks count as drain time, but it might be the reason showing 4:53, so added some notes.
5. 04:58:408 - just a personal suggestion here, maybe change to k for avoid players suffer that d spam? (? You are a ddkk player right? disagree this time sorry ;w;

That's all from me, nice song and map, gl~ Thank you so much !

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1. +5 ms on the first, snares start going late when approaching the 1st kiai
2. fine tune the 03:48:420 - section
3. 03:58:014 - this section needed re-timing
4. 04:00:671 - -2 ms as adjusted
5. 04:54:888 - overhauled this section because drummer goes nuts
6. 05:03:344 - revamped a bit for more accurate ending

Raiden wrote:

mostly fine, just some fine tuning and smoothing
[Timing]

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1. +5 ms on the first, snares start going late when approaching the 1st kiai
2. fine tune the 03:48:420 - section
3. 03:58:014 - this section needed re-timing
4. 04:00:671 - -2 ms as adjusted
5. 04:54:888 - overhauled this section because drummer goes nuts
6. 05:03:344 - revamped a bit for more accurate ending

***note that I was dumb again and forgot to revert volume changes sorry about that

Hope this is accurate enough, and good luck!

iloveyou4ever wrote:

Hey o/ Yolo!

[General]
All ok!

[Death]
00:43:408 - change to d
seems too much k here,and kkkkkk flows weird to me,consider changing this to d? 00:43:246 (236) - Changed this one instead.

01:05:219 - change to d
flows better imo Due to the vocals, I keep that one.

01:13:975 - change to d
more variate? I don't personally like kdkdkdd, kdkdkkd flows more accurate.

01:36:029 - change to k
to show pitch difference of 01:36:273 (774) - Done.

02:58:570 - change to d if you're mapping to guitar pitch? Yours is done , 02:59:056 (1523) - this one is also changed to a kat.

02:59:056 - change to k as same reason

03:38:538 - change to D
K sounds weird here,also D can emphasize the pitch different between drum and piano at 03:38:890 -
If you think dddD flows bad,maybe changing to dkkD or ddkD is a good idea! Denied since I followed the drums, and i put that KAT for playability, the reason why i didn't put dddD is what you've said basically.

03:58:511 - change to k
it's quite hard to play,tho it fits the drum somehow,but I think changing to k may play easier and flow better The intention was following the drums, and I did that properly.

04:36:511 - change to d
no specific drum sound here Yes, maybe. But there is a vocal sound which I follow. The streams are put because of the drums, and varied due to the guitar and vocals.

04:37:565 (518,519) - Ctrl+G
the changes in guitar pitches begin on 04:37:809 (521) - but not 04:37:809 (521) - Seems reasonable, applied.

05:03:574 (650,651,652) - change to finishers
the beats of 05:03:344 (649,650,651,652) - are really strong,but yeah since 05:03:344 - is on 1/6,you don't need to change that
if you think finishers don't fit,then maybe changing hitsounds to 100% is also a good idea! Hmm. I used no finisher on dddk pattern. And, the drum sounds (and the guitar) are exactly the same on these 4 notes. Which is why I didn't use finishers on them.

Sorry for short mod but it's really well-mapped,especially the stream.
Others elements are also well-placed and flows naturally.
Good Luck! Thank you!

Greenshell wrote:

m4m from my quehuehuehue

Death is the 8th Deadly Sin

General:

Checked metadata, looks good.

Overall volume felt quite loud to me, consider lowering it at some spots. I choose my volume settings based on same music-effect volume in the map. If you equalize both, it hears perfect for me.

OD and HP settings look fine too.

Reminder: Make sure to overlook similar points from my suggestions yourself, I might've missed some points.


[Death]

00:25:246 (50) - don? the pitch of the guitar is noticeably lower than 00:25:083 (48,49) - and 00:25:408 (52) -, but both versions sound and play fine. Changed, but due to readability and flow.

00:29:543 (95) - consider changing this to don, so you have a nice effect with the 2 previous kkd's and the kdd after that, showing descending guitar pitch. plus, it'd be consistent with 00:34:975 (151,152,153) -. Edited the whole section.

00:30:516 (105) - I'd move this note to 00:30:354 - to keep the way of emphasis of the lead guitar consistent. ^

First kiai looks crisp :eyes:

01:18:435 (618) - kat maybe, as the crash is quite high-pitched and the stream flows nicely into it? or do you prefer don here to keep the buildup consistent? Second one.

01:39:759 (817) - even if the snare exists here, it's quite faint and for the player it's hardly audible. due to that, I'd prefer a don instead, as it looks, plays (imo) and sounds better. I don't see why not, changed.

01:50:381 (930,931,932,933) - I wish this wasn't the case, but even at 25% speed and without hitsound volume, I fail to hear any clear 1/6 sound played in the song, only the drummer being a bit off. If these really don't exist, can you give an explanation of why this is mapped as such? Ehh, you are right. 25% hitsound volume does show me that there are 2 kicks here, so changed to ddk 1/4.

01:59:300 (1006,1007) - there's no 1/8 drum played here either, but I guess this is for consistency? Even if it doesn't exist, the reverb effect supports the 1/8, and yes, I'll keep it for consistency.

2nd chorus looks good too :eyes: It's good that you like the kiai :^)

02:45:354 (1423) - kat? the guitar pitch is quite high, leaving that out considering your overall emphasis is a bit weird. Actually the guitar sound is changing on 1/3 snap, but I already tried to put it and it felt pretty off. So, I chose to follow the drums instead.

02:55:732 (1488) - same thing as above. Same. Further explanation: I used kat on 02:56:056 (1487) - this note in order to emphasize the last sound of the guitar.

03:21:678 (1691,1692,1693,1694,1695,1696,1697,1698,1699,1700,1701,1702,1703,1704,1705,1706,1707,1708,1709) - assuming you're following the drums,
it should look like this:


Changed the stream, but not the same as yours. Instead of kkddkddd, I put kkkdkkdd.

03:48:687 (4,9) - I'd delete these two notes; even if the 1/4 are clearly audible, having 5-plets doesn't feel very appropiate for the calmest part of the song. additionally, in my opinion, a 1/2 gap gives the kats a cute impact. Following the sounds are the most important thing for me. And the hi-hat sound is as prominent as the others, so I'm gonna keep it.

03:58:262 (45) - since you're mapping kats as snares in this stream, consider changing this to don. the only other drum sounds (idk how they're called lol) you mapped as kats are 04:00:005 (66,67,68) - these, while you mapped them as dons elsewhere in the stream, idk why. First one is changed, but I'll keep the 2nd one in order to emphasize the drum sounds that are different from kick sounds.

04:09:592 (179) - why are you skipping the quite clear guitar here? I think this could be mapped as kat to express that. That part of the kiai streams are varied in each other, so I want to keep this.

04:17:214 (271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281) - I have no clue what this pattern is mapped to, honestly, as doesn't emphasize skips guitar, drums and / or vocals in its best way. If you want to emphasize the vocalist, then 04:17:701 (277) - sounds better as kat. I thought it was consistent in the song, but the vocals are on the red spot, so 04:17:701 (277) - changed this one to kat.

04:33:106 (463) - due to the high guitar pitch, kat works well here.

04:35:701 (495) - this one too, although I'd suggest this one stronger because the guitar sounds more intense.

The changes on both sides overemphasize the guitar sound in my opinion, keeping them as dons will work better.

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In summary, I like the way you appoached the song, it's consistent in its patterning and emphasis for the most part, more intense sections are set apart from others with SV that is done quite smoothly, and the patterns play quite well (even if I can't play the solo cuz 1/6 orz). I hope this bit was helpful.

Good song choice you got there, star'd and good luck! Thank you!

Grimbow wrote:

\o \o/ o/ M4M \o \o/ o/

My mods are heavily based on the relation of the notes to the music and how this is emphasized, feel free to deny everything if your mapping style doesn't follow my style of modding!

d - Small don (red note)
D - Big don (red note with a finish)
k - Small kat (blue note)
K - Big kat (blue note with a finish)

Black means something that I think needs changed
Orange is just a suggestion
Blue is a comment

Death is actually the fourth horseman of the apocalypse :^) that diffname...

00:16:165 (1) - Add a finish to this note! First note of the instruments kicking in and the drums come in hard with the cymbal crashes so adding the finish would match the pace

Makes sense, yes.

00:23:624 (30,31,32,33,34) - I feel like this should be a kkkkd pattern since the drummer here plays snares until 00:23:948 (34) - This is only a suggestion because if change it then the resulting pattern after will have to change to dkdkdkdk and you might have to alter the entire stream due to it so it might be a bit much

I have to reject this one, because the drummer goes nuts starting from 00:23:948 - this note and kdkdkdkd is the best thing that it fits. kkkkdddkdkdk doesn't fit the same rhythm that has 00:23:948 - this note.

00:40:894 (203) - This one caught me off-guard since you switched where the triplets are, move it to 00:40:732 - to keep it consistent with the rest of this section (If you're worried about having too many triplets in a row, deleting 00:40:408 (199) - would be a good way to break it up since there's only two clear guitar chords played here)

Changed the first one, but didn't touch the second one.

00:41:219 (206) - If you do take the above suggestion, move 00:41:219 (206) - to 00:41:056 - and add a note at 00:41:543 - to keep the exact same flow you have, just resnapped to be more consistent

There is already a note on 00:41:056, but applied the 2nd one. Added a kat.

01:18:759 (605) - You could make this section a bit more varied by changing this note (and similar ones like 01:19:408 (607) - , 01:20:056 (609,610,611) - etc) to a k to match the increasing/decreasing pitch of the guitar tremolo. This is only a suggestion because I see that you are following the bass kicks but having some variation can never hurt!

Disagree this time. If I change those notes to kat, it'll break consistency with the intro since I followed the drums on both parts.

01:38:462 (789,790) - Ctrl+g these notes, the d currently lands where there is both a peak pitch played on the guitar and the snare drum roll starts, plus the (ddkk)kdkkkkkk doesn't flow too well if the rest of the stream is taken into consideration imo, so switching the k and the d after the ddkk 1/6 helps alleviate this while also following the instruments a bit closer

Okay, changed.

02:41:462 (1382) - I'm not too sure how to word this properly so I'll put it as just a suggestion. This section here feels a little strange since you switch between mapping the drums and guitar quite a bit and some of the more prominent sounds (like the snare claps) aren't mapped consistently with the same colour note. Maybe it's just my personal opinion getting in the way here though but I'd try and place k notes on the snare claps a bit more evenly

I chose to follow the drums on the first part, and chose to follow the guitar on the 2nd part since the guitar pitch is one octave higher, making the patterns with combining drums and guitar was not the best solution there, you are right.
03:37:570 (1781) - After listening to it at 25, 50, 75 and 100% and playing over it about 12 times I've decided that this note feels better as a k! The sound is a bit ambiguous so a d or a k could be used effectively but in playtesting the k felt better to me

The drum sound is not snare on that. I'll keep it as a don for this reason.

03:39:243 (1792) - Change this note to a d, the piano pitch dips here and it'll add a little variation to this section since it's currently all k's
03:42:067 (1796,1798) - Same for these two notes, change them to d's
03:44:890 (1800) - Same again here!
03:46:655 (1804) - And finally here too!

Rejected all. I want to keep this section as all kats, because the piano sounds are way higher compared to the guitar like, the whole song.

03:49:848 (11) - I think this would be a great place for a finish! The cymbal crash is a pretty good indicator of the section change and the re-introduction of the drums which would make for ample emphasis Makes sense, applied.
03:50:534 (13) - oooooooo please change this to a d! The bass kick here mixed with the piano tone and note colour change makes the flow silky smooth! I promise!
03:51:912 (18) - Same with this note! Change to d please
03:53:294 (23) - Here too! Change to d
03:54:653 (29) - Here also!
03:56:019 (34) - Another one!
03:57:351 (39) - Final one!

Since I didn't change the full kat section, I can't change those ones as well. Following guitar and piano requires kats on all over these patterns.

03:58:511 (48,50) - I feel like these two notes should be swapped, the more emphasized change in the drums is on 03:58:511 (48) - and I feel that would be better suited to the k sound since 03:58:677 (50) - doesn't have anything prominent on it (You could probably get away with adding a k to 03:58:926 (53) - also since the tom sound there is pretty harsh, but that's not too important)
03:59:341 (58,60) - Same here, I'd advise Ctrl+g on these notes

Both applied.

04:38:295 (527) - I was surprised that there was no 1/6 around here and at 04:40:079 (549) - !

That's because the guitar is not strictly 1/6 so i decided to keep it as 1/4

04:41:755 (570,571,572,573,574) - lol the drummer forgot how to drum in time here, is there a way to fix this so you can map it properly or is it not worth breaking for the sake of two or three notes?

Those notes came from Raiden's timing, and it plays pretty well. So, I don't want to change them.

04:42:183 (574) - This offset feels pretty late to me and in testing I got between +4-6 pretty consistently so it might need tuned a bit?
I tested this map multiple times, and I play fine. Due to the off-timing I think it should be okay. 4ms is not that important for just one bar. If it is, I'll be waiting for more solutions to fix it, since I can't do it properly.

Great song by a great band and a great map to boot! Best of luck in ranking and thank you for the fun map! Dem thank you so much hehe

Vulkin wrote:

random M4M for Riders of the Storm

-Death-
Maybe change diffname? I dont see that much relation with Death, maybe Conquest? since it is talking about making it his world, idk you decide
Not a bad idea tbh, but I wanna keep this since it relates to Melodic "Death" Metal.

00:01:083 (1,1) - I dont think they're following anything, maybe the sound effects but i dont think they're really that needed

They are. Without them the drain time is shorter than 5 mins

00:26:543 - maybe put a bit more variation on the triplets in this section? for ex. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9030368

I'd rather keeping them simple, for a better flow with the guitar pitch.

00:37:083 (163,167) - i think they would fit the drums a bit better if they were d

There are 3 snares, so I'd keep them as kats.

00:46:489 - maybe set it like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9030619 so it follows what youre trying to do with the finishers?

Umm, changed to something else. kdkdk wasn't fitting even though I think it fits, so I changed it to kkddk.

01:05:462 - to 01:06:678 - idk why but i feel theres something wrong in this part, or its just me

That part of the stream is made intentionally. On every kiai except the guitar solo one, that part is varied between each other in order
to provide some variation.

01:14:705 (560) - maybe make it k so it complements a bit the "WANTED" word?, plus you follow it at 04:17:701 (277) -

I'd rather keeping that since the "TED" word is on 01:14:786 (561) - this note.

01:42:354 (833) - move to 01:42:516 - and make it k? i think it follows the guitar a bit better

If I change that, it'll break consistency with the first part.

01:47:543 (888) - ^ to 01:47:705 -
02:16:975 (1197) - maybe make it k so it complements a bit the "WANTED" word?

Since they're related and I've rejected all of them, I just put this here that I rejected them also.

02:25:894 (1272) - maybe make it k so it has consistency with 02:20:705 (1243) - ?
02:31:083 (1303) - ^
02:36:273 (1341) - ^

They're consistent in themselves as you can see.

02:57:029 - imo this stream seems a bit too simple, maybe follow those small cymbals too? for ex. 02:58:813 (1502) - could be k

That's the point here. Every other stream is complex in this song, so I put a simple one. Plus, it follows guitar pretty good.

03:37:246 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9030739 maybe follow like this?

Don't think so, since it already follows the drums.

really sorry i couldnt find that much, im not good at modding streams No problem at all :^)
good luck on ranking this ;w; Thank you!

zigizigiefe wrote:

I'm the world and yours

21:35 frukoyurdakul: mapin 1pp vermiş la
21:35 frukoyurdakul: aslkdjaskd
21:35 frukoyurdakul: şimdi yüklendi
22:14 zigizigiefe: sonunda biri pp aldı sdkjşfgsşkj
22:14 zigizigiefe: geç gördüm mesajını sry
22:15 zigizigiefe: biri mapin forumunda avatarıma dikkat çekmiş amk rezil oldum
22:15 frukoyurdakul: daha önce de söylemiştin
22:15 zigizigiefe: ben daha yeni gördüm, ne ara söylemişim amk neyse
22:17 frukoyurdakul: o mapten pp alacak daha çok adam var
22:17 frukoyurdakul: bi ara redbull falan gömersem DT atıcam o mape
22:17 zigizigiefe: shinchikuhome 500 üstü pp play yaptı, kaçı raw pp olarak dönmüştür acaba ona
22:18 frukoyurdakul: 2 falan
22:19 zigizigiefe: o da bir şeydir
22:19 zigizigiefe: sen DT FC yapamazsın büyük ihtimal ama kaç acc ile tamamlarsın en fazla
22:20 frukoyurdakul: 93 falan
22:20 zigizigiefe: o değil de, uzun streamlerden birinden önce dkkkkkd patternı koymuştum ya, keşke kkkkkkd yapsaydım onu amk d ile başlayınca kafam karışıyor
22:23 frukoyurdakul: ooooo çok geç amk
22:24 zigizigiefe: ben de ona yanıyorum zaten
22:25 frukoyurdakul: ephemeral den unrank iste
22:25 frukoyurdakul: ASKLJASJASKDJASKDJ
22:25 zigizigiefe: CSDFLİJDŞFLKDASKŞFJASDKŞFJASDKŞJ
22:25 frukoyurdakul: modla lan artık şu mapimi
22:25 frukoyurdakul: suronodan bubble aldıktan sonra raiden bakıcak
22:26 zigizigiefe: 5 dakika falan bekle o zaman :D
22:26 frukoyurdakul: k
22:26 zigizigiefe: d
22:26 frukoyurdakul: mk
22:28 zigizigiefe: tamam 5 dakikaya gerek kalmadı
22:29 zigizigiefe: önce bir playtest
22:29 *zigizigiefe is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1379202 Arch Enemy - The World Is Yours [Death]] <Taiko>
22:30 frukoyurdakul: paso restart atıp durma da
22:31 zigizigiefe: playtesti geçelim
22:31 zigizigiefe: %0 hitsound ile oynayamıyorum
22:31 frukoyurdakul: noldu :D
22:32 frukoyurdakul: niye %0 hitsound kullanıyosun ki
22:32 zigizigiefe: senin taktik işte :D
22:32 zigizigiefe: 200BPM falan olsa tamam da 185 çok sinir bozucu
22:32 frukoyurdakul: ben ne zaman dedim lan onu
22:32 zigizigiefe: sen testplayleri %0 hitsound ile yapmıyor musun amk
22:32 frukoyurdakul: yoo
22:32 frukoyurdakul: :D
22:33 zigizigiefe: nasıl lan
22:33 zigizigiefe: dur loglardan bulurum hemen
22:34 frukoyurdakul: ohoo
22:35 zigizigiefe: aha buldum
22:35 zigizigiefe: https://zigi.s-ul.eu/ob6M0SmM
22:35 frukoyurdakul: wat
22:35 zigizigiefe: kesin yanlış anladım ama olsun
22:35 frukoyurdakul: oyun sırasında değil o amk
22:35 frukoyurdakul: editörde demek istedim orda
22:36 zigizigiefe: iyi de onu ben de yapıyorum :D
22:36 frukoyurdakul: la ben zaten onu dedim
22:36 frukoyurdakul: hitsoundsuz test etmem mapi
22:36 zigizigiefe: ben başlıyorum siktir et bu mevzuyu :D
22:37 zigizigiefe: 00:23:786 (32) - burada snare'i niye atladın
22:37 zigizigiefe: gitarı takip etmiş olsan bile gayet açık bir şekilde duyuluyor
22:37 frukoyurdakul: kkkdk ile başlamak istemedim
22:37 frukoyurdakul: zaten önünde bir sürü kdkdkdkd var
22:38 frukoyurdakul: itiraz etmedim ki
22:38 frukoyurdakul: burada da var snare
22:38 frukoyurdakul: 00:23:867 (33) -
22:38 frukoyurdakul: ama o da don
22:38 frukoyurdakul: aynı şey
22:38 frukoyurdakul: sadece okunabilirlik açısından koydum, kkkkk koyacak hiç değilim
22:38 zigizigiefe: onu diyorum işte, kkkkk veya kkddk yerine kkkdk olabilirdi
22:38 zigizigiefe: neyse diğerine geçeyim
22:39 frukoyurdakul: en tepede söyledim onu zaten
22:39 zigizigiefe: 00:32:867 (124,125,126,127,128,129) - kkd kkd olması birazcık tuhaf bana kalırsa, 00:27:678 (75,76,77,78,79,80) - sesleri bunlarla aynı
22:40 zigizigiefe: eğer gitar sesinin ne kadar ince veya ne kadar güçlü olduğuna göre patternları dizdiysen bir önerim var
22:40 frukoyurdakul: değil
22:40 frukoyurdakul: pitch yükselişi var
22:40 frukoyurdakul: o kısımlar aralarında various
22:40 frukoyurdakul: bi kkd kdd
22:40 frukoyurdakul: bi kdd kkd
22:41 frukoyurdakul: değişiyor yani
22:41 frukoyurdakul: tamamen rastgele mapledim orayı, hepsini aynı maplemek sıkıcı yapıyor iyice
22:41 zigizigiefe: öyle tabii
22:41 frukoyurdakul: çünkü çok tekrar ediyor
22:41 frukoyurdakul: sebebi bu yani
22:42 zigizigiefe: 00:43:164 (226,227) - ctrl g yapmaya ne dersin? hem karışık olmaz, hem ikinci kısımdaki snare ve vokali kat ile belirtmiş olursun
22:43 frukoyurdakul: güzel, tamamdır
22:43 frukoyurdakul: 00:46:246 (258) - bunu kat yaptım
22:43 zigizigiefe: 00:55:083 - finisherlar çok da gerekli değil bana kalırsa
22:43 frukoyurdakul: sen söylemeden diyeyim dedim
22:43 frukoyurdakul: orası vurgu noktası
22:43 frukoyurdakul: k k k k k k mapledim ilk bşata
22:43 frukoyurdakul: başta*
22:44 frukoyurdakul: d d d d d zaten uymuyor
22:44 frukoyurdakul: en güzeli o finisherlar, tamamen bateri sesiyle uyumlu bana kalırsa. sadece zil sesi için kullanmak gairp
22:45 zigizigiefe: 01:02:867 - diğer ölçülerin tümü (en azından benim gördüğüm kadarıyla) dddd diye başlarken burasının kkdd diye başlaması garip geldi, variety ile alakası yok direkt olarak tutarsız bana kalırsa
22:46 frukoyurdakul: orada vocali vurguladım
22:46 frukoyurdakul: variety gram aklımdan geçmedi
22:46 zigizigiefe: aa doğru
22:46 zigizigiefe: vokali unutmuşum
22:46 frukoyurdakul: ikinci kiai de aynı zaten
22:46 frukoyurdakul: birkaç yerde vocali takip ettim, birkaç yerde gitarı
22:47 frukoyurdakul: o sondaki karışık kısım ise... epey random
22:47 frukoyurdakul: kendi içleri arasında various onlar da
22:47 zigizigiefe: 01:05:462 - burası gereksiz bir şekilde karışık olmuş
22:47 zigizigiefe: dediğin gibi, random :D
22:47 frukoyurdakul: işte her bir kiaide farklı
22:48 frukoyurdakul: ve tamamen aynı yapmak istemiyorum
22:48 frukoyurdakul: şuradaki versiyonu uyuyor ama
22:48 frukoyurdakul: 01:15:840 -
22:48 zigizigiefe: aynı yapma da tamamen farklı da yapma
22:48 frukoyurdakul: bunu çeşitli hale getirmek epey zor
22:48 frukoyurdakul: bi önerin olursa dinlerim
22:48 zigizigiefe: orası güzel zaten
22:48 frukoyurdakul: kiainin ilk kısmının en sonunda, hand swap ile başlayan bir pattern var
22:49 frukoyurdakul: üçünde de öyle
22:49 frukoyurdakul: ikincisinde de daha çok bateriyi takip eden var
22:49 zigizigiefe: ben yine unuttum amk hand swap neydi
22:49 frukoyurdakul: sen bilmezsin :D
22:50 frukoyurdakul: kddk
22:50 frukoyurdakul: 1/4
22:50 frukoyurdakul: ikinci k ye sol elle basmaktır
22:50 frukoyurdakul: ama sizde öyle bişey yok, ddkk ve kkdd oyuncularında
22:50 zigizigiefe: 1. katsu'ya hangi elle bastığına bağlı
22:50 frukoyurdakul: kddkddkddk ve kkdkkdkkdk falan hand-swap diye adlandırılır
22:50 frukoyurdakul: her türlü diğer elinle basıyorsun işte
22:50 zigizigiefe: haa doğru ya
22:50 frukoyurdakul: sola sağ sağa sol
22:50 zigizigiefe: anladım tamam :D
22:51 zigizigiefe: kddk=tuşlara belli bir düzen içinde basmak
22:51 zigizigiefe: ddkk/kkdd=TUŞLARA ABANAN OROSPU ÇOCUKLARI
22:51 frukoyurdakul: lül
22:51 zigizigiefe: arada kddkdd.. patternı çok yavaş olunca ellerim kitleniyor
22:51 frukoyurdakul: neyse devam et :D oraya bir önerin yoksa tabi
22:52 zigizigiefe: orası için söyleyeceğim bir şey var aslında, "kddkdd.." temelli bir pattern kullanma 
22:52 zigizigiefe: mavi çizgilerde vurgulanacak sesler duyamadım
22:52 frukoyurdakul: hmm
22:53 frukoyurdakul: amk uydurmak mümkün değil ki
22:53 frukoyurdakul: o ince zil sesine kat koysa
22:53 frukoyurdakul: koysam*
22:54 frukoyurdakul: aradaki snare işi bozuyor
22:54 zigizigiefe: modun sonunda unutmazsam bakarım oraya
22:55 zigizigiefe: 01:53:786 (941,942,943,944,945) - vokali vurguladığın bir bölümde burada ddkdk kullanmak ne kadar mantıklı sence
22:55 zigizigiefe: hem sonraki kkkkddk ile birlikte flow bozuluyor gibi oluyor hem de ddkkd daha uygun 
22:55 frukoyurdakul: mantıklı
22:55 frukoyurdakul: evet, ona çevirdim
22:57 zigizigiefe: sen bunu rankladıktan sonra ben de mapleyeceğim, güzel şarkı aslında
22:57 frukoyurdakul: ya hay amk
22:57 zigizigiefe: ?
22:57 frukoyurdakul: maplenmiş şarkıları mapleme ya :D
22:57 zigizigiefe: yok amk asıl amacımı biliyorsun
22:57 frukoyurdakul: neyse
22:57 frukoyurdakul: devam et
22:57 zigizigiefe: 02:05:462 (1057,1058,1059,1060,1061,1062) - çok fazla kkddkkdd
22:58 zigizigiefe: kkkdkkdd veya kdddkkd yapabilirsin variety için
22:58 frukoyurdakul: tamam orayı bir şekilde düzeltiyorum 1dk
22:58 frukoyurdakul: diğer streamlerde ayar yapıcam, o da dahil
23:00 frukoyurdakul: sonunu da ayarladım bu arada o streamin
23:00 frukoyurdakul: ilkini de değiştirmiştim
23:00 frukoyurdakul: ama bu da overemphasize oldu
23:00 frukoyurdakul: çok fazla kdkdkdkd oluyor
23:00 zigizigiefe: "kkddkkdd"dan iyidir bana göre
23:00 zigizigiefe: 02:06:921 (1075) - vokal sesini atlamışsın
23:00 frukoyurdakul: yok orası için demedim
23:01 frukoyurdakul: 02:07:732 - burası için dedim
23:01 zigizigiefe: orayı raiden'a sor bence
23:01 frukoyurdakul: orayı halletmem lazım
23:01 frukoyurdakul: ayrıca vocal sesini atlamışsın derken neyi kast ediyosun
23:01 zigizigiefe: 02:07:732 - burayı da unutma soracaksan
23:01 frukoyurdakul: orası zaten kat
23:02 zigizigiefe: 02:06:921 (1075) - burası bende don
23:02 frukoyurdakul: haa
23:02 frukoyurdakul: e orda vocal yok ki
23:02 frukoyurdakul: nerde var? :D
23:02 frukoyurdakul: 02:07:083 - vocal burda başlıyor
23:02 zigizigiefe: haa "take control" diyormuş orada
23:03 zigizigiefe: başka bir şey diyor sandım 
23:03 frukoyurdakul: yok
23:03 frukoyurdakul: o şekilde değil
23:03 zigizigiefe: unutmadan söyleyeyim de, 02:16:813 (1195,1196,1197,1198) - burada vokal 3/4 olmayabilir
23:04 frukoyurdakul: 1/3 zaten
23:04 frukoyurdakul: 3/4 değil
23:04 frukoyurdakul: sadece vurgu için yaptım
23:04 frukoyurdakul: 01:14:543 (558,559,560,561) - burada da aynı
23:04 zigizigiefe: 1/3 vokali niye kddkd ile vurguladın, aynısını ben wasteland'de yaptığımda ağzıma sıçmıştın :D
23:04 frukoyurdakul: bırak da streamde azcık variety olsun
23:05 frukoyurdakul: ulan iyi de bunda streamler çok monoton
23:05 frukoyurdakul: harbi monoton yani
23:05 frukoyurdakul: istesem de çeşitlilik katamıyorum
23:05 zigizigiefe: benim streamlerimi sen biliyorsun, daha da monoton 
23:05 zigizigiefe: neyse kalsın öyle sıkıntı yok
23:06 frukoyurdakul: işte sen düşün
23:06 frukoyurdakul: aynen
23:06 frukoyurdakul: 04:17:538 - bak burası 1/2 mesela
23:06 frukoyurdakul: devam et sen
23:06 zigizigiefe: 1/4 gitar sesi 02:51:192 - noktasından başlıyor
23:06 zigizigiefe: 02:51:354 - buradan başladığını sanmam
23:07 frukoyurdakul: oradaki slide
23:07 frukoyurdakul: tam 1/4 sayılmaz, birçok ses var orada
23:07 frukoyurdakul: en aşağı 4 nota
23:07 frukoyurdakul: ama kısım o maplediğim yerden başlıyor
23:07 zigizigiefe: 03:02:259 - pıst pıst, break time ekleyelim mi yakışıklı
23:08 frukoyurdakul: orada otomatikman yok ki
23:08 frukoyurdakul: ben kaldırmadım yani
23:08 zigizigiefe: sistem kendisi eklemediyse sen ekle diyorum işte :D
23:08 zigizigiefe: yoksa çok tuhaf oluyor
23:08 frukoyurdakul: niye ki çok kısa zaten
23:09 frukoyurdakul: iyi ekledim seni mi kırıcam :D
23:09 zigizigiefe: 03:04:813 - bak buraya da bir spinner gider, gitar iyice yoğunlaşıyor
23:09 frukoyurdakul: spinner taraftarı değilim
23:09 frukoyurdakul: sırf gitar için koymam
23:10 frukoyurdakul: çünkü silent yapmak yasak
23:10 zigizigiefe: %5 vol. koyarsın
23:10 frukoyurdakul: arttırmamı isteyecekler
23:10 frukoyurdakul: break time kalsın
23:10 zigizigiefe: sen bilirsin
23:11 zigizigiefe: bu arada mapi modladıktan sonra eski haline döndüreceğim de şu espriyi yapmasaydım içimde kalırdı
23:11 *zigizigiefe is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1379202 Arch Enemy - The World Is Yours [I'm Yours]]
23:11 zigizigiefe: yazmadım say sen, devam edeyim
23:11 frukoyurdakul: ok
23:11 zigizigiefe: ŞKJASDXFRIJWQO9*ĞRWKAQĞORKWQRĞOEQW
23:11 zigizigiefe: ASDFLİRKAWSQDLĞKŞRFJASDJ
23:11 frukoyurdakul: bu arada sen söylemeden
23:11 frukoyurdakul: 03:58:511 -
23:11 frukoyurdakul: burası dkk ya, kkd şu an
23:11 frukoyurdakul: değiştirmeyi unutmuşum
23:11 zigizigiefe: aynen kötü görünüyordu orası
23:12 zigizigiefe: bu arada ranked maplerini oynadıktan sonra hiç "ananı sikiyim şurayı değiştirmeyi unuttum" dediğin yer var mı
23:12 frukoyurdakul: yoo
23:12 frukoyurdakul: sen devam et hadi
23:12 zigizigiefe: bugün kaça kadar açıksın
23:12 frukoyurdakul: bilmiyom
23:13 zigizigiefe: 03:51:912 (18) - don yapalım mı burayı
23:13 zigizigiefe: kick sound duymuş olmam lazım, kat kötü görünüyor
23:13 frukoyurdakul: niye
23:13 frukoyurdakul: var zaten
23:13 frukoyurdakul: her 2 beatte bir var
23:13 frukoyurdakul: ama klavyeyi takip ediyorum
23:13 zigizigiefe: klavye sesi de duymadım (eğer klavye sesi ise)
23:14 frukoyurdakul: don olanların üzerinde gitar veya klavye sesi yok
23:14 frukoyurdakul: gitarla klavye aynı işte
23:14 zigizigiefe: varmış da çok arkaplanda sanki
23:14 zigizigiefe: haa yeni duydum pardon
23:14 frukoyurdakul: yok amk aynı bildiğin
23:15 zigizigiefe: klavyenin ne sesleri çıkardığını bilmem lazım, yoksa "vay amk dragonforce'da piyano çalan da mı varmış" diyorum
23:15 frukoyurdakul: piyano değil de
23:15 frukoyurdakul: klavyeci var zaten amk
23:15 zigizigiefe: onu diyorum ya işte
23:15 zigizigiefe: klavyeyi piyano sanıyorum yoksa
23:16 frukoyurdakul: ohoo...
23:16 frukoyurdakul: neyse sen devam et, modu bitir
23:16 zigizigiefe: 04:24:674 (361,362) - ctrl g? takip ettiğin ses 04:24:755 -  noktasında
23:17 frukoyurdakul: harbi öyle lan
23:17 frukoyurdakul: tamam değiştirdim
23:17 zigizigiefe: 04:24:268 (356,357) - bu da aynı şekilde
23:17 frukoyurdakul: yok, orası doğru
23:18 zigizigiefe: iki nokta arasında kalmış sanırım ben şaşırdım orada :D
23:18 frukoyurdakul: human error
23:18 frukoyurdakul: devam et
23:18 frukoyurdakul: orası değil asıl sorun
23:18 frukoyurdakul: 04:26:619 -
23:18 frukoyurdakul: burası
23:18 zigizigiefe: 04:28:241 (405,406,407,408,409) - belki şurayı kdkdk yapmak istersin, gitarist delirdi
23:18 frukoyurdakul: burayı maplerken wtf dedim
23:19 zigizigiefe: dflşjkgbjhsdljkşfghadflj
23:19 frukoyurdakul: yok ya orası iyi
23:20 zigizigiefe: bu kadar sanırım
23:20 frukoyurdakul: tamamdır, sağolasın
23:20 frukoyurdakul: post yap
23:20 zigizigiefe: dur bir dakika
23:20 frukoyurdakul: kudosu vereyim
23:20 zigizigiefe: mp3'te mi sıkıntı var
23:20 zigizigiefe: 05:04:746 - 
23:21 frukoyurdakul: hmm
23:21 zigizigiefe: 05:12:031 - burada da cızırtı var
23:21 frukoyurdakul: orayı silebilirim aslında
23:21 frukoyurdakul: youtube dan indirdiğim için
23:21 frukoyurdakul: videonun sonu öyleydi
23:21 zigizigiefe: wind effect sıkıntı yaratmış birazcık, kaldır son kısmı

Surono wrote:

quality post but kualiti internet *sniff

00:16:212 - volume volume~

From what I understand, a spinner and a note could be put before the timing point but a slider can not, according to pishifat's timing video. So, i decided to put two spinners before the timing point, which plays fine on auto and on actual gameplay. If it's unrankable, just notify me and I'll move the timing point and everything. If not, I'll keep that as they are. About the volume change: In order to keep the volume down on those spinners I had to declare the timing point's volume as 10% and at the same point on the green line I declared it as 85%. So, on that point the volume changes instantly and the first don plays fine.

01:28:860 - ~ 01:31:698 - each kkkk colors are have a different tremolo, 01:29:590 - 01:30:239 - 01:30:887 - 01:31:617 - 01:32:590 - 01:32:671 - = d and 01:32:752 - kddk with this madness snap, it differs tremolo with previously dkkd. somehow it looks interesting at emphasizing/alteration color with the tremolo. I tried to pointed out these as intend to the emphasizing the guitar so its, about the playabilty idk but the current snap already tryhard.jpg even its simpler colors that repeated. herman is cool li okok?

After a small talk with Surono, I decided to keep the patterns Surono said as they are now, but due to add some variation on a different sound, 01:31:779 (702,703) - changed those two to kats.

03:48:467 - wut teh veq the redlines, "timing is happythin" raidon would say it, ty raidem for these. x'd

They all play fine, so I'm fine with them too :^)

04:28:288 - umm herman li pls, kk kk kk d. pp? nope but it is! overall as hell.. i cant say it pepes.. but KREYGAMSMS intensifies, oh comeon.. xd ok no.. ;w;

Not really a fan of putting 1/8 doublets on that place, since the sound isn't trilling.

so from the overall and its importantly, check the intensity of chorus part. 1st, 3rd, and 4th kiai.. it looks 4th more intense. idk how to suggest it but i try: 04:02:099 - 04:04:693 - 04:12:477 - you can kat these as the good intense in this kiai but not 04:07:288 - in here since I felt here not really intense XD 04:17:261 - and is it vocal emphasizing? dem variation. 04:14:018 - from here I saw its similar with the pattern b4 at previously kiais chorus. try to less kat on previous kiais e.g 01:11:184 - 02:13:455 - don these? so the noticeable emphasis could be felt there when compared 1st 3rd with 4th kiais imo.

I want to keep these streams simple and consistent, so turning some of the sections to kdkkdkd is not good for variation. Although, I liked the idea of turning 01:11:184 - this and 02:13:455 - this one to don. So, changed both.

dem in-tree-nut.. good signal but always do troubles :sweatblob: I need reconnectconnect sometimes *since my engrish term wording is succ, i nid gugel translet xd* Thank you so much for your mod :^) gugel translet, lol

Surono wrote:

this map reminds me "╭( ･ㅂ･)و "

thatssshhhs my point additional change u dem aehuheuaeh idc, idk, or asgdjsagd /fckd_up.
enjoy keygrasm map.

Raiden wrote:

hi no kd But but but you deserve it...

death
01:50:752 (916) - finisher for potent guitar note 01:51:076 (918) - This also has the same note and it doesn't have a finisher either.
Adding both of them is unneccessary, so I'll keep it.
02:34:374 (1326,1327) - ctrl g? kdkd flow looks bland and uninteresting I'd rather prefer emphasizing the vocal sound on 02:34:536 (1327) - this note with a kat. So, i'll keep this too.
02:54:482 (1462) - finish the cymbal Applied.
02:59:671 (1512,1513,1514,1515,1516,1517,1518,1519,1520,1521,1522,1523) - contrast the previous iteration, this one is the one which should have higher kat count because higher pitch Now that's complicated. The guitar sound on the right ear is lower but, on the left ear it's higher. I want to keep this stream simple and I also don't want it to be too repetitive. If I turn 02:59:752 (1513) - this to kat, I have to turn 03:00:239 (1519) - this one as well. And, I don't want kk 5 times in a row, to be honest. Putting more kats (like 02:59:671 (1512,1513,1514) - kkk on those 3) or making the stream harder aren't good solutions as well since the rest of it is pretty simple. So, i'm gonna keep the stream as it is now.
05:03:621 (650,651,652) - finish? the ending feels underwhelming currently Since this came out twice, applied.

yeah 24h

Raiden wrote:

02:54:482 (1462) - still has no finish lol

davidminh0111 wrote:

From top to here, nominator posts xD
Congratz :3

Vulkin wrote:

ey grats for qualify and welcome to nominator
(im so late aint i w)