Kero Kero Bonito - Flamingo (WTN3 Remix) · forum

Nerova Riuz GX

Joined April 2012

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Nerova Riuz GX 2017-07-16T14:11:53+00:00

leo16834 wrote:
Hi~ do some NM

Normal

00:37:632 (5) - 這個我覺得可以向右邊移一點 x465 y186 ok
01:36:268 - 這裡我覺得可以加一拍，聲音跟重音都有 Normal不是塞好塞滿就可以，總要定期有個空格給休息時間吧
01:54:541 - 休息點應該從這裡開始比較好可

Hard

00:07:905 (1,2) - 聽起來是有點奇怪，覺得可以改成奇數來回並把偶數來回的尾巴改成用點似乎沒有比較好
02:13:768 (3) - 這個可以靠近 02:13:359 (2) - 調整了一下位置
03:21:268 - 這個我覺得可以改成點來強調 03:19:632 (1,2,1) - 跟00:07:905 (1,2,1) - 是互補關係，也就是前面做一次我後面也做一次，改成點沒有意義

難度大於5星的譜，因為自己沒有辦法玩，個人看了許久，決定可能無法mod...

做的很好的譜，我覺得要給顆星才是

加油祝你好運

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2017-07-16T14:33:16+00:00

fenza long time no see

as a note first: This map is mostly based on vocal instead of background instruments.
or you might see repetitive long ass shit :^)

Fenza wrote:
mod from the shadows
Multi Color
is there any reason you are ignoring beats 00:11:587 (3) - and 00:11:859 (4) - ?
you were covering similar beats with sliderheads earlier intentionally decreasing note density

00:13:496 (2) - there is a pretty strong beat here, some rhythm like this would be cool
or just end the slider at that strong beat yeah ok

00:14:177 (1) - i'm not sure what you're following here? i think it would be good if you followed the high pitched instrument that you did earlier doing something like this 1/1 repeat sliders are used when the vocalist said "flamingo" (e.g. 01:32:723 (1) - )

00:16:086 (3) - i think this note should be emphasized more ehh why tho

00:16:632 (3) - maybe have this be circles instead? Making 00:16:359 (1,2) - a slider would work too, just to remain consistent
because there are high pitch beats on each sound and there are drum beats on each sound so i dont see why two would be a slider and 2 would be circles
00:16:632 (3,5) - these two sliders are following the same instrument, not for drums

00:18:405 (2) - i suggest a circle here definitely no

00:30:404 (6,1) - why isnt there a triple here like at 00:28:223 (7,8,1) - ? was trying not to map that much triples at the beginning

00:31:496 (2) - same as above nop

00:33:541 (5,6,1) - same as 00:30:404 (6,1) and 00:28:223 (7,8,1) but i dont map those triples which ends on a red tick.

00:47:450 (3) - maybe make this into a circle? you are ignoring the drumbeats in the rest of the section. If its for following the vocals i recommend a 3/4 slider instead leaving a 1/1 gap there is quite strange to me tbh

00:53:177 (4) - i think this should be clicked? i dont see the reason in ignoring the vocals all of a sudden though i don't think i ignored them, just mapped with non-clickable objects

01:01:087 (1,2,3,5) - maybe do something like this? i'll just skip that beat

01:02:314 (2) - stack with 01:02:723 (4) - ? Though I'm not going to perfect-stack anything, i still made them closer.

01:13:087 (1,3,5) - make cleaner triangle pls okok

01:02:177 (1) - if you're going to ignore the 1/4 here you should do the same on the previous part, i would just think it was better if you mapped the 1/4 in all sections because these sounds stand out so much 01:03:132 (5,6,1) - triples will only be mapped in kiai

01:05:996 (1,2) - you should do this on 00:52:905 (3) - actually i should not do that. There are 3 vocals instead of 2.

01:09:950 (2) - you are missing beats from every instrument on the white tick here ehh...yes?

01:11:587 (5) - same here, im not sure what you're actually following with these? vocals

01:14:723 (1,2) - :^)

01:18:541 (1,2,3) - i think you should follow the same instrument as you did here 01:01:087 (1,2,3,4) - i want to keep those circles and make players click them when the vocalist said "1, 2, 3"

01:19:087 (3) - i think this would fit perfectly as a slow long slider same above
ignore slider, just rhythm

a bit of personal taste but i think it would look better if 01:22:905 (1) - was stacked with 01:22:223 (2) - and 01:23:177 (2) - was aligned with 01:23:996 (1) - adjusted a little, though i don't want to align them but at least i made them parallel

01:24:541 (2) - i think this should be clicked not quite correct

01:32:723 (1) - ^ same

01:36:132 (2) - this is a pretty strong beat, maybe circle? but i'd rather ignore it here

i think this would be pretty cool since the sound changes 02:02:450 (1) - sure, but i want to have some break there

02:19:905 (7) - maybe have this be clickable? that might sound like a good idea, but for now i want to keep the lower density. (also i dont want to ruin the pattern lol)

03:19:632 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i think these should be circles these are the same as 00:07:905 (1,2,3,4) - so they shouldn't be changed

03:21:268 (1) - isnt this 1/8 or faster? it's quite weird since it's neither 1/8 nor 1/6. I'll look into that later.

map is looking pretty nice

J1_

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Joined February 2015

J1_ 2017-07-18T18:51:05+00:00

Hey, from my mod queue

Normal:

02:04:905 (3,1) - Better blanket

02:20:723 (1) - Slider body could be to the right to have more flow

Nasya's Insane:

00:24:268 (3,4) - Slider should be a little bit to the left for linear flow

03:09:677 (1) - Blanket opportunity with 03:08:996 (2) -

Rohit's Extra:

01:08:723 (1) - Same here with 01:08:177 (5) -

In general, really clean and not many other noticeable mistakes, GL!

Justysuwu

184 posts

Joined July 2016

Justysuwu 2017-07-19T04:15:12+00:00

Hi

Normal

AR 4 is better

Hard

00:55:359 (2) - this is useless
02:03:268 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - These circles are a little unsettled, maybe think of some pattern for that

Multi Color

The beginning is quite strange, think again over it
00:08:996 (1) - (end of beggining)

I think this is all
[lucky:1337]Good Luck

[/lucky:1337]

Xinchii

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Joined January 2011

Xinchii 2017-07-21T10:08:54+00:00

我是來後排支持der

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2017-07-23T12:29:50+00:00

xJ1 wrote:
Hey, from my mod queue

Normal:

02:04:905 (3,1) - Better blanket ummm...i would like to have a parallel pattern here

02:20:723 (1) - Slider body could be to the right to have more flow yes

MyAngelMeinter wrote:
Hi
Normal
AR 4 is better nope. AR is set to 5 in case of the stacked notes.
Hard
00:55:359 (2) - this is useless As a filler rhythm, it's fine being like that
02:03:268 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - These circles are a little unsettled, maybe think of some pattern for that errr 02:03:268 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - is a star/double-pentagon pattern, and 02:09:814 (1,2,3) - is a regular triangle. it is combined with two patterns instead of one.
Multi Color
The beginning is quite strange, think again over it
00:08:996 (1) - (end of beggining) would be great if you can point something strange out for me to fix xd
I think this is all
[lucky:1337]Good Luck [/lucky:1337]

thanks for your modding

katielikespp18

41 posts

Joined June 2017

katielikespp18 2017-07-24T17:21:09+00:00

It plays well.

HARD:

Some inconsistency with the sliders and the rapid snare beat throughout the map, such as: 01:45:405 (504, 112). You match it up with the beat perfectly at 00:43:973 (336, 344) and at some other points in the map.

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-07-27T05:16:07+00:00

Multi Color

00:30:473 - Missing triplet.
00:33:746 - Actually you start ignoring the triplet quite a bit in favor of 1/2 jump patterns which imo isn't that good. You don't neglect o 00:37:018 (8) - 00:39:200 (7) - etc... so I'm seeing this as inconsistencies now xP.
01:05:382 - triplet etc... yea I think you're just missing a lot, or skipping them unnecesssarily, then mapping 1/4 and 1/6's the next measure which make me think you're trying to follow these notes, and you just haven't followed them as well as you could have.
02:21:677 (1,2,3) - Way too simple for the amount of 1/4's you skip xP.

I really don't have much to complain about in terms of flow/structure/emphasis etc... It's just your rhythm choice with those 1/4's is not as consistent as it can be, and ends up neglecting the music. Fix those, and its ready to go imo.

Rohit's Extra

00:16:359 (1,2,3,4) - REally not sure what your rhythm here is. Follow this: really compliments the next two sliders 00:17:450 (1,2) -

~

00:19:632 (1,2,3,4,5) - Just felt really random since you used 1/2 sliders for the first half.
01:20:723 (1,2,3,4) - This arrangement looked quite messy compared to your other patterns. Actually its mainly just 4.
01:38:996 (4) - Ctr;+G flows better imo.

Nasya's Insane

00:16:359 (1,4) - Looked a bit too messy with those uneven overlaps xP.
01:23:996 (1,2,3) - xd random slider body overlap and eww blanket ;c. Just looks unpolished.
01:40:632 (3,4) - ehh

triggers me

Hard

02:19:359 (3,1) - I think it's better not to overlap if you're doing slider designs like this. It's a weird slider with uneven curves, so let the player see it more xD.

this looks nicer

[]

Cool map. Mainly concerned with what I already said about highest diff. I'm hesitant to push this forward without a few changes (i don't think theyre that difficult to implement anyways) but feel free to link me metadata while you're at it. Anyways, call me back when you're ready.

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2017-07-29T11:06:25+00:00

Discuzz wrote:
It plays well.

HARD:

Some inconsistency with the sliders and the rapid snare beat throughout the map, such as: 01:45:405 (504, 112). You match it up with the beat perfectly at 00:43:973 (336, 344) and at some other points in the map. extended sliders are placed when there's no exact vocal. also, the changes are quite consistent.

Monstrata wrote:
Multi Color

00:30:473 - Missing triplet. yes. fix it.
00:33:746 - Actually you start ignoring the triplet quite a bit in favor of 1/2 jump patterns which imo isn't that good. You don't neglect o 00:37:018 (8) - 00:39:200 (7) - etc... so I'm seeing this as inconsistencies now xP.
01:05:382 - triplet etc... yea I think you're just missing a lot, or skipping them unnecesssarily, then mapping 1/4 and 1/6's the next measure which make me think you're trying to follow these notes, and you just haven't followed them as well as you could have.
02:21:677 (1,2,3) - Way too simple for the amount of 1/4's you skip xP.

I really don't have much to complain about in terms of flow/structure/emphasis etc... It's just your rhythm choice with those 1/4's is not as consistent as it can be, and ends up neglecting the music. Fix those, and its ready to go imo.
I did a fucking mistake on the first one - I thought it could reduce the density for a bit but it didn't.
but for the rest of them, it's kinda different since it's about the density stuff.
the consistency will increase by adding that xd
did some explanation here since some people have asked this before
parts that has triplets: (divided into parts by bookmarks)
00:27:268 -
01:37:087 -
02:29:450 -
02:46:905 -
What I'm thinking here is to make triples only appears when I want that part to be dense. They are mostly kiais except the last one.
but for the other parts, they will have some more 1/1 sliders instead (e.g. 01:02:723 (4,2,4) - 02:12:950 (1,2) - ...), placed for vocals/bg instruments.
What I have in my mind here is to make some more difference on "clicking and note density", so I can make the difference bigger between parts, not just separating them through spacing difference or more circles. imo using more sliders such as splitting a 1/1 slider into 1/2 + circle doesn't do much, because although the note is not clickable there, it's still visible/audible.
02:46:905 - 03:04:359 - I think the difference between these two parts are the clearest example of this on how the density changes.

Hard

02:19:359 (3,1) - I think it's better not to overlap if you're doing slider designs like this. It's a weird slider with uneven curves, so let the player see it more xD. sure
this looks nicer

[]

Cool map. Mainly concerned with what I already said about highest diff. I'm hesitant to push this forward without a few changes (i don't think theyre that difficult to implement anyways) but feel free to link me metadata while you're at it. Anyways, call me back when you're ready.

btw changed one slider angle in normal: 01:16:359 (3) -
the original one blocks the slider tick so i moved it

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2017-07-29T11:27:07+00:00

A post for metadata

Source

https://soundcloud.com/mrsuicidesheep/kero-kero-bonito-flamingo-wtn3-remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la9C0n7jSsI
released by MrSuicideSheep

also just by that i added "whitenois3" in tags (the name of wtn3)

@gders: update first for tags

N a s y a

510 posts

Joined March 2012

N a s y a 2017-07-29T14:07:33+00:00

leo16834 wrote:
N a s y a's Insane

00:21:405 (3) - I think this one can move to x:335 y:60
00:52:632 (6,7,8) - The angle is uncomfortable

xJ1 wrote:
Nasya's Insane:

00:24:268 (3,4) - Slider should be a little bit to the left for linear flow

03:09:677 (1) - Blanket opportunity with 03:08:996 (2) -

Monstrata wrote:
Nasya's Insane

00:16:359 (1,4) - Looked a bit too messy with those uneven overlaps xP.
01:23:996 (1,2,3) - xd random slider body overlap and eww blanket ;c. Just looks unpolished.
01:40:632 (3,4) - ehh
triggers me

no comment = fix

thanks all

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Rohit6

425 posts

Joined August 2013

Rohit6 2017-07-30T08:20:20+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Rohit's Extra

00:16:359 (1,2,3,4) - REally not sure what your rhythm here is. Follow this: really compliments the next two sliders 00:17:450 (1,2) - im following that flute(?)
instrument there
~
00:19:632 (1,2,3,4,5) - Just felt really random since you used 1/2 sliders for the first half. changed
01:20:723 (1,2,3,4) - This arrangement looked quite messy compared to your other patterns. Actually its mainly just 4. changed around stuff
01:38:996 (4) - Ctr;+G flows better imo. okay

Thanks!

http://puu.sh/wWQV2/3edbcb1009.osu

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-07-31T19:36:33+00:00

Im fine with the reasoing. nominated!

-Penguino

4 posts

Joined August 2014

-Penguino 2017-08-05T21:22:10+00:00

The hardest diff is <3

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-08-08T22:01:28+00:00

General

Unused hitsound: normal-hitnormal2.wav

Multi Color

00:59:041 (3) - missing NC, tbh it should be at the previous stanza, I'm also wonder why you didn't mapped it, since both vocals and instruments suggest it to be click'able
01:53:996 (1) - reduce the volume at the slider tail is too loud compared to the song

Rohit's Extra

the spacing is inconsistent with other similar parts 00:34:223 (4,5) - 01:44:042 (4,5) - 01:52:769 (4,5) - 02:36:405 (4,5) - 00:42:950 (4,5) - you really need to make them consistent or atleast similar.
00:51:405 (2) - add nc this belongs to a different part in the music.
01:08:177 (5,1) - it's the overlap necessary? it doesn't looks nice at all
01:37:496 (2,5,6,1) - the stack leniency of the triplet make your stack off, do a manual stack if you care about visuals
01:48:950 (5,6,1) - touching the HP bar, according to the RC you need to avoid this and being honest it looks bad
01:53:996 (1) - I suppose the whistle on the slider body is on purpose, I don't mind it, but can you reduce the volume at the slider gradually?

N a s y a's Insane

00:43:632 (5) - missing NC
01:35:996 (5) - 02:37:223 (4) - Same

Normal

01:17:450 (1,1) - at this bpm the recovery time after the spinner is too short for a normal diff.
02:46:905 (1,1) - same

call monstratita for rebub and then call me back

Renumi

Beatmap Nominator

904 posts

Joined July 2012

Renumi 2017-08-09T01:23:05+00:00

01:39:268 (1) - 01:40:768 (3) - stack

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Nerova Riuz GX 2017-08-09T06:42:34+00:00

all fixed.

00:58:359 (2) - having it reversed can effectively reduce the density, which would make this part more calm.

Rohit6

425 posts

Joined August 2013

Rohit6 2017-08-11T16:27:13+00:00

Natsu wrote:
General

Rohit's Extra
the spacing is inconsistent with other similar parts 00:34:223 (4,5) - 01:44:042 (4,5) - 01:52:769 (4,5) - 02:36:405 (4,5) - 00:42:950 (4,5) - you really need to make them consistent or atleast similar. only first one needs to be adjusted, minor variations are fine imo
00:51:405 (2) - add nc this belongs to a different part in the music. ok
01:08:177 (5,1) - it's the overlap necessary? it doesn't looks nice at all subjective
01:37:496 (2,5,6,1) - the stack leniency of the triplet make your stack off, do a manual stack if you care about visuals 01:37:496 (2,1) - this is stacked so its fine imo
01:48:950 (5,6,1) - touching the HP bar, according to the RC you need to avoid this and being honest it looks bad ok
01:53:996 (1) - I suppose the whistle on the slider body is on purpose, I don't mind it, but can you reduce the volume at the slider gradually?ok
call monstratita for rebub and then call me back

thanks for mod!

http://puu.sh/x7wS4/3dce364bc7.osu

N a s y a

510 posts

Joined March 2012

N a s y a 2017-08-11T22:27:47+00:00

Natsu wrote:
N a s y a's Insane
00:43:632 (5) - missing NC
01:35:996 (5) - 02:37:223 (4) - Same

fix~
thank you Natsu

osu

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ImNatalie

ImNatalie 2017-08-27T13:07:39+00:00

Hello, I play this map a lot and thought that the banner (or whatever it's called) could be improved so I made a new one.

I hope you like it!

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-09-07T06:42:24+00:00

ok

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-09-10T23:38:41+00:00

01:54:541 (1) - double greenline on top diff zzz

let me know

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Nerova Riuz GX 2017-09-11T13:56:50+00:00

Done.

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-09-11T23:59:43+00:00

re bub

Battle

2,862 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 2017-09-14T00:18:55+00:00

hi

[Hard]
01:28:223 (2,1) - consider moving the 2 to not be stacked, you've used stacks before but they indicated 1/1 gaps and not 1/2 gaps so this can throw people off (it's also cuz you have 01:31:632 (1,2,1) - which stacks but has a different rhythm gap u kno)

[Multicolor]
03:07:496 (1) - tbh you should really have this follow the kind of like rising thing the bg since it's like the most notable thing here, the 1/1 slider makes sense in kind of a "dying down" in terms of density perspective, but 2 sliders can be used to make it less dense clicking wise while also leading to the held 1/8 repeat. 1/1 slider isn't really following anything so yeah, I highly suggest you change it
03:16:223 (1,2,3) - kinda same

i'll be back when ur fine

Kagetsu

796 posts

Joined March 2015

Kagetsu 2017-09-14T06:32:24+00:00

isn't this 110 bpm?

Angelic Snap

72 posts

Joined March 2016

Angelic Snap 2017-09-22T17:15:18+00:00

i beg of you get this ranked

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2017-10-01T23:34:48+00:00

Can someone follow the vocals in the first part?

SilverCatalyst

173 posts

Joined May 2016

SilverCatalyst 2017-10-05T21:21:36+00:00

pls rank w

Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Side 2017-10-27T15:52:14+00:00

old preview point is better plz chang

Mittenss

8 posts

Joined May 2015

Mittenss 2017-11-04T01:18:32+00:00

low quality/old play for the map

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-11-06T02:02:06+00:00

what happened :L

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Nerova Riuz GX 2017-11-13T11:59:27+00:00

Battle wrote:
hi

[Hard]
01:28:223 (2,1) - consider moving the 2 to not be stacked, you've used stacks before but they indicated 1/1 gaps and not 1/2 gaps so this can throw people off (it's also cuz you have 01:31:632 (1,2,1) - which stacks but has a different rhythm gap u kno) good point, fixed

[Multicolor]
03:07:496 (1) - tbh you should really have this follow the kind of like rising thing the bg since it's like the most notable thing here, the 1/1 slider makes sense in kind of a "dying down" in terms of density perspective, but 2 sliders can be used to make it less dense clicking wise while also leading to the held 1/8 repeat. 1/1 slider isn't really following anything so yeah, I highly suggest you change it
03:16:223 (1,2,3) - kinda same
actually I feel they are not necessary, or even not important - since I only mapped the "rising thing" once at the very beginning. Also, that overlapped with the hold slider part so I don't really want to map it out.

i'll be back when ur fine

Kagetsu wrote:
isn't this 110 bpm?
It's kinda questionable but I think it's 220 - the main, notable parts like vocals lands on 220. Only the drums feel like 110, but to me that's not enough for me to be convinced. I'll take 220 anyway.

Battle

2,862 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 2017-11-14T16:08:15+00:00

explanations are fine to me, i feel the vocal explanation for the bpm is fine

w

HappyRocket88

4,321 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2017-11-14T17:24:39+00:00

Congrokolations!

Mint

1,607 posts

Joined February 2013

Mint 2017-11-14T18:12:06+00:00

finally!! gratz <3

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Zhuriel

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Zhuriel 2017-11-14T18:36:53+00:00

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:
Kagetsu wrote:
isn't this 110 bpm?
It's kinda questionable but I think it's 220 - the main, notable parts like vocals lands on 220. Only the drums feel like 110, but to me that's not enough for me to be convinced. I'll take 220 anyway.

there is no way this song is 220 bpm, the drums, structure, phrasing and everything scream 110.

just look for example at the first 4 measures: you have a repeated pattern at 00:01:087 - 00:03:268 - 00:05:450 - 00:07:632 -, with chord changes on the latter two and one vocal phrase each, on 110bpm each of those is one measure which is very natural while in your current timing has each as 2 measures. in the next 4 measures it's even clearer with the big synth downbeats. i could go on but you get the point.

i don't even understand what you mean by the vocals "landing on 220" tbh, would you mind elaborating on that more?

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2017-11-14T21:24:36+00:00

Zhuriel wrote:
there is no way this song is 220 bpm, the drums, structure, phrasing and everything scream 110.

just look for example at the first 4 measures: you have a repeated pattern at 00:01:087 - 00:03:268 - 00:05:450 - 00:07:632 -, with chord changes on the latter two and one vocal phrase each, on 110bpm each of those is one measure which is very natural while in your current timing has each as 2 measures. in the next 4 measures it's even clearer with the big synth downbeats. i could go on but you get the point.

i don't even understand what you mean by the vocals "landing on 220" tbh, would you mind elaborating on that more?

hmm...interesting.
welp, at the top of all of these, I'll say that this BPM topic is quite subjective, and ambiguous.

Let's get into the song itself deeper since it has some properties from both 110 and 220 BPM:
From 110:

Basically, the drums work with 110.
Some parts without vocal feels more 110 because of the arrangements (e.g. 02:11:996 - separated by my bookmarks)
Chorus parts are more like 110 (e.g. 01:19:632 - )

From 220:

Intense parts like kiai are more 220-like, which contains more constant beats and vocal relay
Iconic vocal parts, e.g. 00:23:723 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - that oh-oh thingy
Rap-like vocal parts keep placing downbeats with long white ticks on 220, e.g. 00:44:723 - 01:02:177 -

From all the things above I can be convinced by both of them, but I picked 220 since it represents more on the structure I made on this map. It's much more instinctive for people to understand because people commonly play tons of 1/2 notes on most of the maps.
Again, this is ambiguous because it has variants of properties, it just depends on how you look at it.

Here's my reply, and hope that can solve your problem.

(kinda mean but i have to say that the example you made is quite weird, since you paste only the timemarks of "white ticks" instead of "patterns", like you stated in the context. It did take me a while to understand what you meant. But your point is still constructive and worth to be discussed, still.)

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