Miki Sayaka vs. Miki Sayaka (fw. Miki Sayaka) - squartatrice · forum

Shinsekai-

Joined November 2012

Shinsekai- 2017-07-08T15:16:24+00:00

Volta wrote:
Yahallo~

[General]
I'm not sure if the measure for the first timing point is 3/4 or 4/4. Maybe seek some opinions about that.
[Sekai's Muzukashii]
00:12:673 ~ how about:
cursor is at 00:13:173 - where i hear a wind sound, i think the triplet will be more appropriate this way
00:14:340 - change to d? pitch is lower and more interesting imo
00:20:673 - pattern suggestion for 00:12:673 could also work at this part
00:35:673 - maybe change to d for low pitch?
00:57:256 - consider to remove and 00:57:339 - change to k to closer the gap with futsuu
00:58:755 - remove, same as ^
01:01:255 - remove and 01:01:172 - change to d.
01:12:005 ~ consider to nerf this session for smoother spread. i think no need to be very detail yet. some notes that possibly can be removed: 01:13:171 - , 01:14:838 - , 01:15:838 - , 01:16:255 - , 01:20:505 - hmmm ok i deleted 01:13:505 (318) - this one is better than 01:13:171 - by so far
01:19:671 - change to k?
01:22:504 - maybe change to d to fits the pitch better?
01:28:837 - i think this can be removed, the pattern feels too long No cuz is the kiai... And the kiai need be a little more hard, and I'm following the piano i can delete this one 01:29:004 (405) - but the kat one no
01:37:837 - same as ^
01:52:587 - eh, why is this in blue tick? move to 01:52:670 - is more natural imo cuz i'm following the piano and hit in the Blue line... If i put the note in the white one sound weird for the piano rhythm
02:06:337 - remove or move to 02:06:503 - ? d-k-d-k-d-k is boring lol
02:08:170 - remove? giving space before the finisher would give more impact imo

Good luck :3

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ty for mod <3 volta ily

Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

3,008 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-07-09T09:53:05+00:00

Volta wrote:
Yahallo~

[General]
I'm not sure if the measure for the first timing point is 3/4 or 4/4. Maybe seek some opinions about that. Asked JUDYDANNY and he shares the same opinion with me that 3/4 is fine for that session as evidenced by notes like 00:06:673 (21,27,32,37,42) -
[Kantan]
00:17:673 - move to 00:17:340 - ? melody is stronger there so i think it;s more intuitive to hit Hmm I think the current position makes more sense with the break at 00:25:673 -
00:41:340 - i think changing this to d more fits with percussion and emphasis next high pitched piano sound Retained for pattern consistency as higher difficulties.
00:51:006 (82,83) - consider to remove finish as the percussion is not as strong? cymbal sound isn't present like before (i'm refering to 00:43:006 (70,71) - ). you also didn't put finish in higher diffs fixed
00:53:006 (86,87) - same as ^ ^
00:56:006 - move to 00:57:339 - ? since at 00:55:006 (90,91) - the cymbal is present again like previous session, would be nice for break consistency ^
[Oni]
00:44:339 - maybe change to d since the pitch is down here? or 00:43:839 (245,246,247,248) - change pattern to d-k-k-d I would prefer following the percussion to highlight the pitch decrease across 00:44:673 (251,252,253,254) - . Also d k d k sounds more dynamic here.
00:48:339 - same as ^ same as ^
[Inner Oni]
00:44:339 - same as Oni same as Oni
00:48:339 - ^ ^
00:57:839 (397,398,399,400,401) - i secretly want 1/8 dk but probably too risky lol No change as this would sound inconsistent with 00:57:672 (396) - . Also the background instrument suggests 1/2 rhythm more than tremolo.
01:27:170 - how about change to kddkk for a pattern variation. sounds good to me fixed
01:37:837 - same as ^ ^
Good luck :3

Thanks for your mod Volta~

Waiting Akemi's response.

Akemi_Homura

1,509 posts

Joined February 2011

Akemi_Homura 2017-07-09T15:04:28+00:00

Volta wrote:
Yahallo~
[Akemi's Futsuu]
00:42:007 (3,4,1) - how about remove these notes, and instead add D at 00:41:007 - and 00:41:340 - where stronger beats occured? I feel combo is little long.. but it's okay. changed.
00:43:006 - add finisher? it has burst sound like at 00:45:006 - and the beat is kinda strong I thought your suggestion is better way to compose this part. Thank you for great suggestion.
00:47:006 - same as ^
00:53:006 - remove finisher here instead, different than before it has no burst cymbal sound.
00:57:006 - , 00:57:672 - , 00:58:339 - remove finisher, overpowered imo adjust finishers this part. to follow your suggestion.
00:58:006 (22,23,24) - kkk more fits with the repetitive melody fixed~
01:16:005 - maybe change to k for variation of 01:13:338 - ? changed to kkd for follow electronic sound pitch. and for reverse pattern previous ddk.
01:17:338 ~ 01:21:671 - how about change to this:
cursor at 01:19:671 - , and highlighted notes are finishers your suggetion is good for me. fixed. :3
01:58:503 - consider to move to 02:00:337 - ? feels weird if there is no note there and for consistency with 01:55:003 - fixed.
02:03:837 - remove if you do above ^
02:06:337 - move to 02:06:003 - and add k at 02:06:670 - ? i think it's too sparse there okay~

Thank you~ Volta~

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Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

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Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-07-09T15:46:48+00:00

All difficulties are updated till this spot.

iloveyou4ever

825 posts

Joined September 2014

iloveyou4ever 2017-07-12T17:12:23+00:00

Hi Nardo :3

[Kantan]
01:01:005 - change to d to emphasize K finisher

[Futsuu]
01:20:505 - change to k?

[Muzukashii]
00:11:173 (39,40) - Ctrl+G to fit the piano sound,it feels strange when 00:11:340 - is d
00:24:007 - change to k to fit the piano sound
00:58:672 - change to k to be consistent with 01:00:005 - ?
For 01:12:005 - to 01:21:671 - I suggest you to remove some 1/4

As this is not really an intense part of the music,and piano sound/sfx here is not that dominant and strong. Also putting more 1/2 here can have better connection between the calm part on 01:01:338 - and the kiai time 01:23:004 -
01:32:170 - change to k as high pitch piano sound is on here
02:07:837 (582,583) - Ctrl+G?

[Oni]
00:31:923 - remove this? Seems too dense for Oni difficulty
01:17:171 - change to k to emphasize the next D finisher
01:18:505 - ^ same point
01:41:837 - change like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8574089? I think nnnnn nnnnn fits the music better

[Inner Oni]
01:22:421 (580,581) - Ctrl+G seems fit the piano sound on 01:22:504 - and also easier to play
01:42:003 - change to d? Feels like kddkddkkdkkdk is more ''consistent''? (idk XD)
01:59:003 - change to k to fit the high pitch piano

Good Map
Good Luck!

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-07-13T15:40:32+00:00

iloveyou4ever wrote:
Hi Nardo :3

[Kantan]
01:01:005 - change to d to emphasize K finisher Remain unchanged to keep it consistent with higher difficulties.

[Oni]
00:31:923 - remove this? Seems too dense for Oni difficulty fixed
01:17:171 - change to k to emphasize the next D finisher Retained to preserve the kat addition from 01:17:338 to 01:19:838 -
01:18:505 - ^ same point same as ^
01:41:837 - change like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8574089? I think nnnnn nnnnn fits the music better No change here as a difficulty spike in the kiai.

[Inner Oni]
01:22:421 (580,581) - Ctrl+G seems fit the piano sound on 01:22:504 - and also easier to play d k at 01:22:504 (581,583) - could reflect the pitch change of piano in a way better.
01:42:003 - change to d? Feels like kddkddkkdkkdk is more ''consistent''? (idk XD) I think k at 01:41:670 (767,771,773) - would accompany the background rhythm well.
01:59:003 - change to k to fit the high pitch piano Pitch is increasing across 01:59:003 (889,890,891) - so keeping d is fine imo.

Good Map
Good Luck!

Thanks for your mod ily4~

Akemi_Homura

1,509 posts

Joined February 2011

Akemi_Homura 2017-07-14T17:16:13+00:00

iloveyou4ever wrote:
Hi Nardo :3

[Futsuu]
01:20:505 - change to k? That's sounds good. fixed~ :3

Thank you for your modding~!

Fixed

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 81673
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[Editor]
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Artist:Miki Sayaka vs. Miki Sayaka (fw. Miki Sayaka)
ArtistUnicode:美樹さやか vs. 美樹さやか (fw. 美樹さやか)
Creator:Nardoxyribonucleic
Version:Akemi's Futsuu
Source:BMS
Tags:Taiko BOF2011 OF FIGHTERS 2011 Kozato Yuzuki gmtn. LUZE Shinsekai- Akemi_Homura
BeatmapID:1320525
BeatmapSetID:613839

[Difficulty]
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ApproachRate:5
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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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Shinsekai-

1,314 posts

Joined November 2012

Shinsekai- 2017-07-14T17:25:24+00:00

iloveyou4ever wrote:
Hi Nardo :3

[Muzukashii PUT MY NAMEEE ;;]
00:11:173 (39,40) - Ctrl+G to fit the piano sound,it feels strange when 00:11:340 - is d
00:24:007 - change to k to fit the piano sound
00:58:672 - change to k to be consistent with 01:00:005 - ?
For 01:12:005 - to 01:21:671 - I suggest you to remove some 1/4 No cuz i want to keep the difficult in this point
As this is not really an intense part of the music,and piano sound/sfx here is not that dominant and strong. Also putting more 1/2 here can have better connection between the calm part on 01:01:338 - and the kiai time 01:23:004 - i want to keep the calm in this part following the sound with simple patterns
01:32:170 - change to k as high pitch piano sound is on here
02:07:837 (582,583) - Ctrl+G?

Good Map
Good Luck!

Ty for mod ILY

kadshfsadhfh

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Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

3,008 posts

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Topic Starter

Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-07-14T17:33:55+00:00

Updated both guest difficulties~ :3

ts8zs

2,123 posts

Joined May 2011

ts8zs 2017-07-15T15:53:07+00:00

你是看到蓝毛想起这张还是听到baka想起这张……
01:51:003 - spinner?

INNER

01:20:838 (567) - k
01:22:504 (581) - k?
01:20:921 (568) - del,snaps nothing
01:28:837 (641) - k?cause of same with 01:29:170
01:35:337 (702) - k? and same to 01:24:670 01:27:337
01:39:170 - kkd? same to 01:39:670

ONI

00:11:673 (39,40,41,42,43,44,45) - kdkdkdd to fit the background sound
00:32:590 (162) - del and 00:32:923 - d
01:27:337 (530) - k
01:51:003 - spinner?
02:01:503 (756) - d
02:02:503 (760,761) - dk

MUZU

00:11:340 (40) - k
00:15:007 (57,58,59,60,61) - ddkkk
00:16:173 (63) - del?
00:22:507 (94) - del?
00:57:839 (263,264,265,266) - all k
01:34:670 (434) - k

FUT

00:17:673 (45,46) - dd
01:23:504 (3) - k
01:29:504 (23) - k
01:36:837 (43) - k

KAT

00:59:672 (99) - k

Shinsekai-

1,314 posts

Joined November 2012

Shinsekai- 2017-07-16T14:47:24+00:00

ts8zs wrote:
你是看到蓝毛想起这张还是听到baka想起这张……
MUZU
00:11:340 (40) - k
00:15:007 (57,58,59,60,61) - ddkkk
00:16:173 (63) - del?
00:22:507 (94) - del?
00:57:839 (263,264,265,266) - all k
01:34:670 (434) - k no because i'm following the drum

TY FOR MOD

!

splatatatata

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Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

3,008 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-07-16T14:53:17+00:00

ts8zs wrote:
你是看到蓝毛想起这张还是听到baka想起这张……
01:51:003 - spinner? I think the background sound effect is rather strong that spinner does not fit well.

INNER
01:20:838 (567) - k No change for a smoother flow. Also there is no high-pitched sound to map with.
01:22:504 (581) - k? same as ^
01:20:921 (568) - del,snaps nothing It does snap a thing if you listen carefully.
01:28:837 (641) - k?cause of same with 01:29:170 Nope as pitch-wise they are quite different.
01:35:337 (702) - k? and same to 01:24:670 01:27:337 I would like to maintain greater pattern complexity here.
01:39:170 - kkd? same to 01:39:670 I think dkd would be more dynamic at these spots.

ONI
00:11:673 (39,40,41,42,43,44,45) - kdkdkdd to fit the background sound The current pattern could follow the additional music layer compared to the previous session imo.
00:32:590 (162) - del and 00:32:923 - d Both arrangements are fine, but I would prefer pattern variety here.
01:27:337 (530) - k Retained for pattern consistency as 01:24:670 -
01:51:003 - spinner? same as Inner Oni
02:01:503 (756) - d It is already a don.
02:02:503 (760,761) - dk I think k d could accompany the pitch changes in a way better.

KAT
00:59:672 (99) - k Remain unchanged to keep it consistent with higher difficulties.

Thanks for your mod though~

Updated Sekai's Muzukashii. Await Akemi's response now.

Akemi_Homura

1,509 posts

Joined February 2011

Akemi_Homura 2017-07-16T18:36:04+00:00

ts8zs wrote:
FUT
00:17:673 (45,46) - dd no change for consistentcy with 00:09:673 (21, 22).
01:23:504 (3) - k okay~ fixed that and changed 01:26:170, 01:36:837 - k additionally.
01:29:504 (23) - k no change. I think pitch is lower than (22) and (24). so want to use d there.
01:36:837 (43) - k fixed~

Thank you for mod~ ts8zs~ :3

AAHHH

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_handholding

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_handholding 2017-07-16T21:08:07+00:00

That song name

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Topic Starter

Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-07-18T17:53:40+00:00

Updated Akemi's Futsuu~ :3

KamizonoShinobu

722 posts

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KamizonoShinobu 2017-08-09T08:13:59+00:00

IRC mod with Nardo

Chat log

14:56 Chocola_2287: o/
14:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: hi
14:58 Chocola_2287: I am too lazy to make mods in forum..
14:58 *Chocola_2287 is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1320933 Miki Sayaka vs. Miki Sayaka (fw. Miki Sayaka) - squartatrice]
14:58 Chocola_2287: How about IRC mod?
14:58 Nardoxyribonucleic: sure
14:59 Chocola_2287: offset is a bit off... Almost every note I hit are late
15:00 Chocola_2287: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8800143
15:05 Chocola_2287: 00:45:006 (73,74) - Ctrl + G? Variation
15:05 Chocola_2287: ^ But not quite important with reference to Futsuu
15:06 Chocola_2287: 00:59:338 (98,99,100,101,102) - Better emphasis the obvious snare voice?
15:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'm sure the current offset is quite accurate already, not going to change for now
15:07 Chocola_2287: 00:59:338 (98,99,100,101,102) - adding that Futsuu has Finishers
15:08 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:45:006 (73,74) - no change for consistency as instrument sounds are identical
15:08 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:59:338 (98,99,100,101,102) - these are all mapped in accordance with my higher difficulties
15:09 Nardoxyribonucleic: also small notes are less straining for Kantan compared to guest Futsuu
15:09 Chocola_2287: 01:01:005 (102) - this took some emphasis on 103
15:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: It may but I would prefer following the additional background instrument with k
15:11 Chocola_2287: 02:08:337 (211,1) - I think a spinner start can emphasis the heavy drum voice here enough
15:12 Nardoxyribonucleic: If the drum here is soft, I will start the spinner there
15:12 Nardoxyribonucleic: which is not the case here
15:12 Chocola_2287: well it sounded off for me
15:13 Chocola_2287: but that's not a big issue anyway
15:13 Chocola_2287: -Futsuu-
15:13 Nardoxyribonucleic: Futsuu and Muzukashii are not made by me
15:13 Chocola_2287: oh
15:13 Chocola_2287: ok
15:14 Nardoxyribonucleic: So just post your mod in the thread if you want to mod them
15:14 Chocola_2287: -Oni-
15:14 Chocola_2287: I dont think I have time to go thru all the diffs
15:14 Nardoxyribonucleic: It's okay
15:15 Chocola_2287: 00:13:257 (48) - I think this does took some emphasis on 00:13:507 (50) - 
15:15 Chocola_2287: maybe ddk can enhance the emphasizing effect
15:16 Chocola_2287: ddk/dkk both can represent the pitch increase but dkk is taking some effect on the notes after
15:16 Chocola_2287: 00:21:257 (88) -  same case here
15:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:13:257 (48,49) - the pitch at these spots is noticeably higher than 47, which is the reason of putting dkk here
15:18 Chocola_2287: yes but the problem is it took the emphasizing effect afterwards
15:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: You may notice that by comparing 00:27:507 (123,124,125) - in the next session
15:19 Chocola_2287: 00:30:923 (148) - move to 00:30:590 - . it can follow the piano voice better
15:19 Chocola_2287: you did not put notes on 00:30:923 -  on Inner Oni
15:20 Chocola_2287: welp this part has inconsistency with inner oni 
15:20 Chocola_2287: http://puu.sh/x5uVT/e3ba215a6b.png
15:21 Chocola_2287: 00:38:590 - same case here
15:22 Chocola_2287: uh nvm for spread's sake
15:23 Chocola_2287: 00:58:672 (336) - current patterns cant emphasis the heavy drum sound
15:23 Chocola_2287: I prefer D dkd D dkd ... to emphasis the percussions
15:24 Nardoxyribonucleic: I think both arrangements work. Just personal preferences
15:24 Chocola_2287: 01:01:338 (359) - I do feel that you need to take off some 5plets to make a spread with Inner Oni
15:25 Chocola_2287: 3plets are fine to have a spread with muzu
15:25 Chocola_2287: e.g. 01:03:838 (369) - delete
15:25 Chocola_2287: 01:06:171 (379) - 
15:26 Chocola_2287: 01:09:171 (391) - 
15:28 Nardoxyribonucleic: Deleted the notes at 01:03:838 - 01:09:171 -
15:28 Chocola_2287: I feel like kiai has some overemphasizing ... At least for me
15:29 Chocola_2287: following the pitch too much
15:29 Chocola_2287: I could feel the weird patterning last time I was testplaying inner ooni
15:30 Chocola_2287: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8800199 I would go for patterns like this]
15:30 Chocola_2287: I am not forcing to change it tho, it is just my preference
15:31 Chocola_2287: 01:31:337 (559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566,567) - I would use this area to emphasis the heavy drum voices
15:32 Chocola_2287: i.e. D _ K D _ D K ....
15:32 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yet the spread will be broken by doing so
15:33 Chocola_2287: hm it is fine if you can make all diffs emphasizing the same instrument
15:34 Chocola_2287: I know there will be spread issue if that is applied, but I can clearly hear that it lacks percussion emphasizing
15:34 Chocola_2287: the patterns sounds off for me rn because it lacks percussion emphasizing
15:34 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:44:337 - percussion session starts here
15:34 Chocola_2287: oh nvm I mean piano
15:36 Chocola_2287: 01:40:170 (628) -  suddenly here's a 7plets
15:36 Chocola_2287: it cause inconsistency with the identical part b4
15:36 Chocola_2287: since you did not use 7plets at all before
15:36 Nardoxyribonucleic: The rhythm is quite different from the previous part
15:37 Chocola_2287: 01:44:170 (665) - k ? Amplify the emphasizing on the next notes
15:37 Chocola_2287: note*
15:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: Using 7-plets are suitable for spread management
15:37 Chocola_2287: welp by the parts b4 I assume 5-plets is maximum here
15:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: Not really. 01:11:505 - already involves the use of 7-plet
15:39 Chocola_2287: welp I assume you can delete 01:11:921 (408) - 
15:39 Chocola_2287: 01:12:005 (409) - Feels like should be isolated to emphasize the heavy drum sound
15:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: Nope, this would only cause inconsistency with 01:11:671 (403,404,405,406,407,410,411,412,413,414,420,421,422,423,424,430,431,432,433,434) -
15:41 Chocola_2287: 01:17:171 (450) - k to emphasis the next finisher
15:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:44:170 (663) - retained to keep it the same with Inner Oni
15:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:17:171 (448) - same as ^
15:42 Chocola_2287: 01:44:170 - (Inner Oni) I dont think dkkd has a better emphasizing effect than dkdk
15:44 Nardoxyribonucleic: Pitch mapping is my prime concern
15:44 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:44:003 (662,663) - decreasing
15:44 Chocola_2287: ok then
15:45 Chocola_2287: 01:56:837 (736) - perhaps make it to 01:57:503 - to be consistent with previous bar
15:45 Chocola_2287: then 01:56:837 (736,737,738,739,740) - ddkkd
15:46 Chocola_2287: well I am assuming it is rejected due to similar part after
15:46 Chocola_2287: 02:02:837 (762,763) - 
15:46 Nardoxyribonucleic: I just removed 01:56:837 (734) - instead to make it coherent with the next structure
15:46 Chocola_2287: that works
15:47 Chocola_2287: -Inner Oni-
15:48 Chocola_2287: 00:41:423 (282,283,284) - 1st note delete, 2nd 3rd notes to k 
15:49 Chocola_2287: 00:41:673 (285) - this k has to be isolated to have a better emphasizing effect
15:49 Chocola_2287: 2,3 d*
15:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: Piano is continuous while 00:41:507 (283,284) - are relatively high-pitched, so I see no reason for the change
15:52 Chocola_2287: 01:30:503 (657,658) - Ctrl + G , I think kkdkddk can emphasis the decrasing pitch better
15:52 Chocola_2287: kk -> high ; dk -> lower ; dd -> lowest
15:56 Chocola_2287: 01:56:837 (876,877) - I feel like this should be consistent with 01:55:503 (868,869,870) - but in dkd; same case 02:02:170 (905,906) - 
15:56 Chocola_2287: dkd could do extra emphasis on the song
15:56 Chocola_2287: with a bit oversimplification
15:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:30:337 - not bad but I feel like kkkddd is what the pitch changes call for
15:57 Chocola_2287: I would use kkdkddk 
15:58 Chocola_2287: but nvm both works
15:58 Chocola_2287: it is just that kkkdddd feels a bit dull
15:58 Chocola_2287: as I said b4 I dont 100% focus on pitch change or else it is just boring and lack of flexible mapping technique
15:59 Nardoxyribonucleic: I don't 100% focus on pitch changes, otherwise the drums are totally ignored
16:00 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:55:003 - I think this part spreads well with Oni currently, so I refrain from adding triplets
16:00 Chocola_2287: it does not matter as this is highest diff
16:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yet the pace is significantly slower than the kiai
16:01 Chocola_2287: the overall density is still lower than kiai so I think it is doable
16:02 Chocola_2287: 02:06:503 (928,929) - might as well make this triplet to be consistent with parts b4
16:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: I am featuring a fade out here...
16:03 Chocola_2287: it isn't that obvious tbh
16:03 Chocola_2287: the instruments does not have fade out effect
16:04 Chocola_2287: until the spinner
16:04 Chocola_2287: I guess thats all, for offset issue I guess you need to ask someone else
16:05 Chocola_2287: It is like 5~9ms earlier than the normal one
16:06 Chocola_2287: idk I'll just try HR Inner Oni to find out whether it is obvious or not
16:08 Chocola_2287: ok the offset is wrong
16:08 Chocola_2287: proved
16:08 Chocola_2287: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8800289
16:09 Chocola_2287: it has to be moved at least 2ms later
16:09 Chocola_2287: the delay is very obvious with HR
16:10 Chocola_2287: +2~5
16:15 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yet this is what I get by one trial: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8800307
16:15 Chocola_2287: well but that proves the timing need to get more helps

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-08-09T08:17:16+00:00

Chocola_2287 wrote:

IRC mod with Nardo

Chat log

14:56 Chocola_2287: o/
14:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: hi
14:58 Chocola_2287: I am too lazy to make mods in forum..
14:58 *Chocola_2287 is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1320933 Miki Sayaka vs. Miki Sayaka (fw. Miki Sayaka) - squartatrice]
14:58 Chocola_2287: How about IRC mod?
14:58 Nardoxyribonucleic: sure
14:59 Chocola_2287: offset is a bit off... Almost every note I hit are late
15:00 Chocola_2287: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8800143
15:05 Chocola_2287: 00:45:006 (73,74) - Ctrl + G? Variation
15:05 Chocola_2287: ^ But not quite important with reference to Futsuu
15:06 Chocola_2287: 00:59:338 (98,99,100,101,102) - Better emphasis the obvious snare voice?
15:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'm sure the current offset is quite accurate already, not going to change for now
15:07 Chocola_2287: 00:59:338 (98,99,100,101,102) - adding that Futsuu has Finishers
15:08 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:45:006 (73,74) - no change for consistency as instrument sounds are identical
15:08 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:59:338 (98,99,100,101,102) - these are all mapped in accordance with my higher difficulties
15:09 Nardoxyribonucleic: also small notes are less straining for Kantan compared to guest Futsuu
15:09 Chocola_2287: 01:01:005 (102) - this took some emphasis on 103
15:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: It may but I would prefer following the additional background instrument with k
15:11 Chocola_2287: 02:08:337 (211,1) - I think a spinner start can emphasis the heavy drum voice here enough
15:12 Nardoxyribonucleic: If the drum here is soft, I will start the spinner there
15:12 Nardoxyribonucleic: which is not the case here
15:12 Chocola_2287: well it sounded off for me
15:13 Chocola_2287: but that's not a big issue anyway
15:13 Chocola_2287: -Futsuu-
15:13 Nardoxyribonucleic: Futsuu and Muzukashii are not made by me
15:13 Chocola_2287: oh
15:13 Chocola_2287: ok
15:14 Nardoxyribonucleic: So just post your mod in the thread if you want to mod them
15:14 Chocola_2287: -Oni-
15:14 Chocola_2287: I dont think I have time to go thru all the diffs
15:14 Nardoxyribonucleic: It's okay
15:15 Chocola_2287: 00:13:257 (48) - I think this does took some emphasis on 00:13:507 (50) - 
15:15 Chocola_2287: maybe ddk can enhance the emphasizing effect
15:16 Chocola_2287: ddk/dkk both can represent the pitch increase but dkk is taking some effect on the notes after
15:16 Chocola_2287: 00:21:257 (88) -  same case here
15:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:13:257 (48,49) - the pitch at these spots is noticeably higher than 47, which is the reason of putting dkk here
15:18 Chocola_2287: yes but the problem is it took the emphasizing effect afterwards
15:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: You may notice that by comparing 00:27:507 (123,124,125) - in the next session
15:19 Chocola_2287: 00:30:923 (148) - move to 00:30:590 - . it can follow the piano voice better
15:19 Chocola_2287: you did not put notes on 00:30:923 -  on Inner Oni
15:20 Chocola_2287: welp this part has inconsistency with inner oni 
15:20 Chocola_2287: http://puu.sh/x5uVT/e3ba215a6b.png
15:21 Chocola_2287: 00:38:590 - same case here
15:22 Chocola_2287: uh nvm for spread's sake
15:23 Chocola_2287: 00:58:672 (336) - current patterns cant emphasis the heavy drum sound
15:23 Chocola_2287: I prefer D dkd D dkd ... to emphasis the percussions
15:24 Nardoxyribonucleic: I think both arrangements work. Just personal preferences
15:24 Chocola_2287: 01:01:338 (359) - I do feel that you need to take off some 5plets to make a spread with Inner Oni
15:25 Chocola_2287: 3plets are fine to have a spread with muzu
15:25 Chocola_2287: e.g. 01:03:838 (369) - delete
15:25 Chocola_2287: 01:06:171 (379) - 
15:26 Chocola_2287: 01:09:171 (391) - 
15:28 Nardoxyribonucleic: Deleted the notes at 01:03:838 - 01:09:171 -
15:28 Chocola_2287: I feel like kiai has some overemphasizing ... At least for me
15:29 Chocola_2287: following the pitch too much
15:29 Chocola_2287: I could feel the weird patterning last time I was testplaying inner ooni
15:30 Chocola_2287: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8800199 I would go for patterns like this]
15:30 Chocola_2287: I am not forcing to change it tho, it is just my preference
15:31 Chocola_2287: 01:31:337 (559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566,567) - I would use this area to emphasis the heavy drum voices
15:32 Chocola_2287: i.e. D _ K D _ D K ....
15:32 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yet the spread will be broken by doing so
15:33 Chocola_2287: hm it is fine if you can make all diffs emphasizing the same instrument
15:34 Chocola_2287: I know there will be spread issue if that is applied, but I can clearly hear that it lacks percussion emphasizing
15:34 Chocola_2287: the patterns sounds off for me rn because it lacks percussion emphasizing
15:34 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:44:337 - percussion session starts here
15:34 Chocola_2287: oh nvm I mean piano
15:36 Chocola_2287: 01:40:170 (628) -  suddenly here's a 7plets
15:36 Chocola_2287: it cause inconsistency with the identical part b4
15:36 Chocola_2287: since you did not use 7plets at all before
15:36 Nardoxyribonucleic: The rhythm is quite different from the previous part
15:37 Chocola_2287: 01:44:170 (665) - k ? Amplify the emphasizing on the next notes
15:37 Chocola_2287: note*
15:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: Using 7-plets are suitable for spread management
15:37 Chocola_2287: welp by the parts b4 I assume 5-plets is maximum here
15:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: Not really. 01:11:505 - already involves the use of 7-plet
15:39 Chocola_2287: welp I assume you can delete 01:11:921 (408) - 
15:39 Chocola_2287: 01:12:005 (409) - Feels like should be isolated to emphasize the heavy drum sound
15:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: Nope, this would only cause inconsistency with 01:11:671 (403,404,405,406,407,410,411,412,413,414,420,421,422,423,424,430,431,432,433,434) -
15:41 Chocola_2287: 01:17:171 (450) - k to emphasis the next finisher
15:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:44:170 (663) - retained to keep it the same with Inner Oni
15:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:17:171 (448) - same as ^
15:42 Chocola_2287: 01:44:170 - (Inner Oni) I dont think dkkd has a better emphasizing effect than dkdk
15:44 Nardoxyribonucleic: Pitch mapping is my prime concern
15:44 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:44:003 (662,663) - decreasing
15:44 Chocola_2287: ok then
15:45 Chocola_2287: 01:56:837 (736) - perhaps make it to 01:57:503 - to be consistent with previous bar
15:45 Chocola_2287: then 01:56:837 (736,737,738,739,740) - ddkkd
15:46 Chocola_2287: well I am assuming it is rejected due to similar part after
15:46 Chocola_2287: 02:02:837 (762,763) - 
15:46 Nardoxyribonucleic: I just removed 01:56:837 (734) - instead to make it coherent with the next structure
15:46 Chocola_2287: that works
15:47 Chocola_2287: -Inner Oni-
15:48 Chocola_2287: 00:41:423 (282,283,284) - 1st note delete, 2nd 3rd notes to k 
15:49 Chocola_2287: 00:41:673 (285) - this k has to be isolated to have a better emphasizing effect
15:49 Chocola_2287: 2,3 d*
15:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: Piano is continuous while 00:41:507 (283,284) - are relatively high-pitched, so I see no reason for the change
15:52 Chocola_2287: 01:30:503 (657,658) - Ctrl + G , I think kkdkddk can emphasis the decrasing pitch better
15:52 Chocola_2287: kk -> high ; dk -> lower ; dd -> lowest
15:56 Chocola_2287: 01:56:837 (876,877) - I feel like this should be consistent with 01:55:503 (868,869,870) - but in dkd; same case 02:02:170 (905,906) - 
15:56 Chocola_2287: dkd could do extra emphasis on the song
15:56 Chocola_2287: with a bit oversimplification
15:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:30:337 - not bad but I feel like kkkddd is what the pitch changes call for
15:57 Chocola_2287: I would use kkdkddk 
15:58 Chocola_2287: but nvm both works
15:58 Chocola_2287: it is just that kkkdddd feels a bit dull
15:58 Chocola_2287: as I said b4 I dont 100% focus on pitch change or else it is just boring and lack of flexible mapping technique
15:59 Nardoxyribonucleic: I don't 100% focus on pitch changes, otherwise the drums are totally ignored
16:00 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:55:003 - I think this part spreads well with Oni currently, so I refrain from adding triplets
16:00 Chocola_2287: it does not matter as this is highest diff
16:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yet the pace is significantly slower than the kiai
16:01 Chocola_2287: the overall density is still lower than kiai so I think it is doable
16:02 Chocola_2287: 02:06:503 (928,929) - might as well make this triplet to be consistent with parts b4
16:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: I am featuring a fade out here...
16:03 Chocola_2287: it isn't that obvious tbh
16:03 Chocola_2287: the instruments does not have fade out effect
16:04 Chocola_2287: until the spinner
16:04 Chocola_2287: I guess thats all, for offset issue I guess you need to ask someone else
16:05 Chocola_2287: It is like 5~9ms earlier than the normal one
16:06 Chocola_2287: idk I'll just try HR Inner Oni to find out whether it is obvious or not
16:08 Chocola_2287: ok the offset is wrong
16:08 Chocola_2287: proved
16:08 Chocola_2287: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8800289
16:09 Chocola_2287: it has to be moved at least 2ms later
16:09 Chocola_2287: the delay is very obvious with HR
16:10 Chocola_2287: +2~5
16:15 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yet this is what I get by one trial: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8800307
16:15 Chocola_2287: well but that proves the timing need to get more helps

Thanks for the mod, updated~ :3

Nyan

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Nyan 2017-08-11T19:06:16+00:00

[Oni]

00:10:673 (35) - add Finish

[Inner Oni]

00:10:673 (42) - add Finish

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Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-08-13T13:31:50+00:00

Nyan wrote:
[Oni]

00:10:673 (35) - add Finish Retained as the background instrument is not strong enough for a big note.

[Inner Oni]

00:10:673 (42) - add Finish same as Oni

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Thanks for the check and stars~

Akemi_Homura

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Akemi_Homura 2017-08-17T23:44:28+00:00

@Nardo : I'm really busy IRL these days. So please fix my diff as you want. ;w;/

Volta

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Volta 2017-08-22T18:52:24+00:00

some recheck

[Akemi's Futsuu]

01:34:670 - move to 01:34:337 - , and add k at 01:34:837 - ? more consistent with 01:23:337 -

[Sekai's Muzukashii]

i think the intro can be made a little calmer, how about delete 00:04:840 and 00:09:840 ? also you might want to 00:10:007 (32,33,34) - change to kkd to follow the decrease in pitch and pattern variation
00:22:173 - add k here? flows better imo
00:38:840 - consider to move to 00:38:173 - , to emphasis the melody at 00:38:673 -
01:28:337 - maybe remove the finisher, and 01:28:170 - change to k? it's overemphasized imo and you also didn't put finisher at 01:39:003 -
01:31:337 - , 01:31:503 - , 01:31:837 - , 01:32:170 - , 01:32:337 - instead you can try to put finisher to all these notes for epic transition to next session
02:07:170 - consider to remove the note, pattern is too long for such a calm ending.

that's all :3

Shinsekai-

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Shinsekai- 2017-08-22T19:21:21+00:00

Volta wrote:
some recheck

[Sekai's Muzukashii]
i think the intro can be made a little calmer, how about delete 00:04:840 ok whit this one and 00:09:840 this one no cuz i'm following the piano and 00:08:673 (26,27,28,29,30) - is the counter of this ? also you might want to 00:10:007 (32,33,34) - change to kkd to follow the decrease in pitch and pattern variation
00:22:173 - add k here? flows better imo
00:38:840 - consider to move to 00:38:173 - , to emphasis the melody at 00:38:673 -
01:28:337 - maybe remove the finisher, and 01:28:170 - change to k? it's overemphasized imo and you also didn't put finisher at 01:39:003 -
01:31:337 - , 01:31:503 - , 01:31:837 - , 01:32:170 - , 01:32:337 - instead you can try to put finisher to all these notes for epic transition to next session
02:07:170 - consider to remove the note, pattern is too long for such a calm ending. is long but follow the piano
that's all :3 TY ILY so much uwu

Nya nya

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Nardoxyribonucleic

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Topic Starter

Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-08-23T09:08:31+00:00

Fixing on behalf of Akemi as authorized p/6198108

Volta wrote:
some recheck

[Akemi's Futsuu]
01:34:670 - move to 01:34:337 - , and add k at 01:34:837 - ? more consistent with 01:23:337 - I think the current arrangement would be more consistent with 01:23:337 (2,3,4,5) - since the four noticeable beats occur within 01:34:003 (35,36,37) - but not from 01:34:337 to 01:35:003 -
that's all :3

Thanks for your recheck Volta~ :3
Updated Sekai's Muzukashii.

Volta

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Joined March 2014

Volta 2017-08-24T10:23:32+00:00

Looks fine, spread is a bit wider than ideal but has some tolerance due to Futsuu and Muzukashii being a GD. Breaks in lower diffs are sufficient and pattern arrangement are nice in general.

Bubbled!

Kin

2,618 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2017-08-25T23:45:07+00:00

Just few suggest before clicking on QF

[Oni]

00:08:507 (26) - dunno really why you decided to map this one to ignore this 00:08:840 -

[Muzukashii]

00:10:673 (36) - maybe better remove finisher? every diff use silmple d here
Might be better to use a spinner to end the diff at the same spot as other diff. Only your diff doesn't use one. I can understand why you don't use it (because I also don't like using spinner this way) ; but it might be better for consistency across the set. Don't forget about green line if you change it

In every diff 02:08:337 - I'd highly suggest you to move the green line here 02:08:503 -
The kick is too strong to be reduced at 50%

owo

Skylish

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Joined June 2013

Skylish 2017-08-26T00:52:56+00:00

Wait I am going to post something

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Skylish

1,070 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2017-08-26T01:45:36+00:00

From rdm2857lish, take it as a free mod:

[General]

> Metadata confirmed:

http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cg ... f&event=74

http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cg ... 9&event=74

[Oni]

> 00:24:507 - You can link the 'uprising sound effect' at the backgound music part by adding a d. Isolated k k seems a bit porous.

> 00:45:173 - / 00:49:172 - imo they could be Finishers to balance the usage of N N at 00:42:673 (242,243) - / 00:46:672 (262,263) - . This suggestion is applied if possible in any difficulties

> 01:21:671 - high pitch sfx with strong drum hit, how about a K? Later on you keep k= high pitch sfx. This suggestion is applied to all of your difficulties.

> 02:00:837 - triplets? compare with 00:13:173 -

[Inner Oni]

> 01:41:753 - you can break the long stream here as 01:41:670 - has a pretty strong alternation of music

> 01:42:837 - it is identical to 01:41:670 - , in terms of structual they should be the same. The former is a head of a normal stream, while the latter is merged into a very long stream (in case you reject the above point). The structures here and there should be consistently considered.

[Kantan]

> 00:54:006 - Finisher?

> 02:08:503 - leave a general 1/1 gap in Kantan?

[Akemi's Futsuu]

> 01:29:670 - / 01:40:337 - / 01:43:003 - extra note out of melody, should be removed to unify the mapping channel in Kiai. Take a look at 01:32:170 -

> 01:42:837 - There's no reason to miss this last and the strongest cymbal crash isn't it? D _ works well because 01:43:003 - , as stated above, is an extra note out of mapping channel, could be removed. Compare with 01:32:170 -

> 01:53:670 - imo Finisher worthy

[chinchin's Muzukashii]

> 00:26:340 - it is a very prominent note for this introduction part with clear vocal and instrumental part shown. How about d kkk to fit them both you are going to map this little intro part?

> 00:30:340 (129,130,131,132) - the order should be kkk k, be identical with 00:38:340 (173,174,175,176) -

> 01:06:671 - keeping your intention of using a low density in this section same as what you did at 01:01:338 - , until 01:10:671 - would be a great comparison.

> 01:17:338 - Finisher

> 01:42:837 - missing this highest pitch note among the music is kinda silly to choose mapping the not really appealing background accompaniments. Check 01:42:170 - / 01:42:503 - , I expect there's an intention to follow the melody with a 'tail note'. 01:43:003 - Shifting it to 01:42:837 - and add Finish can solve this part easily.

> 02:08:503 - umm unified spinner?

[]

If Kin wants to a final check, I dont really mind though.

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-08-26T08:36:06+00:00

Again, fixing on behalf of Akemi as mentioned in previous post when indicated.

Kin wrote:
Just few suggest before clicking on QF

[Oni]

00:08:507 (26) - dunno really why you decided to map this one to ignore this 00:08:840 - It is because I would like to follow the break at 00:06:840 - for consistency.
In every diff 02:08:337 - I'd highly suggest you to move the green line here 02:08:503 -
The kick is too strong to be reduced at 50% fixed

owo

Skylish wrote:
From rdm2857lish, take it as a free mod:

[General]

> Metadata confirmed:

http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cg ... f&event=74

http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cg ... 9&event=74

[Oni]

> 00:24:507 - You can link the 'uprising sound effect' at the backgound music part by adding a d. Isolated k k seems a bit porous. The background music itself is also porous, so a break would fit well.

> 00:45:173 - / 00:49:172 - imo they could be Finishers to balance the usage of N N at 00:42:673 (242,243) - / 00:46:672 (262,263) - . This suggestion is applied if possible in any difficulties The music pattern is quite different from each other (continuous vs discontinuous), which is why I used two sets of finish representations.

> 01:21:671 - high pitch sfx with strong drum hit, how about a K? Later on you keep k= high pitch sfx. This suggestion is applied to all of your difficulties. Keeping D as it is as background rhythm halted before the kiai start for sort of emphasis.

> 02:00:837 - triplets? compare with 00:13:173 - I would prefer keeping it consistent with 01:55:503 -

[Inner Oni]

> 01:41:753 - you can break the long stream here as 01:41:670 - has a pretty strong alternation of music You may understand the reason of placing such a stream by paying attention to 01:41:670 (767,770,773,776,779) -

> 01:42:837 - it is identical to 01:41:670 - , in terms of structual they should be the same. The former is a head of a normal stream, while the latter is merged into a very long stream (in case you reject the above point). The structures here and there should be consistently considered. Remain unchanged to act as cooling phrase by stepping down the length of 1/4 patterns.

[Kantan]

> 00:54:006 - Finisher? No change for further emphasis of 00:54:672 (89,90,91) -

> 02:08:503 - leave a general 1/1 gap in Kantan? I think it is not needed since no overlap occurs and the duration itself is sufficient for beginners to complete the whole spinner.

[Akemi's Futsuu]

> 01:29:670 - / 01:40:337 - / 01:43:003 - extra note out of melody, should be removed to unify the mapping channel in Kiai. Take a look at 01:32:170 - Deleting these notes would result in standalone notes 01:30:003 (25) and 01:43:337 (1,2) - , which is undesirable for the kiai session. You may refer to the concept explained below.

> 01:42:837 - There's no reason to miss this last and the strongest cymbal crash isn't it? D _ works well because 01:43:003 - , as stated above, is an extra note out of mapping channel, could be removed. Compare with 01:32:170 - I guess he wants to emphasize 01:41:337 (59,60,61,62) - by using bridging notes to improve connection among 1/2 notes.

> 01:53:670 - imo Finisher worthy I see your point, but I would prefer keeping it simple for better transition to higher difficulties as Kantan is also simple at this spot.

[]

If Kin wants to a final check, I dont really mind though.

Thanks both of you. I will wait for Shinsekai-'s response and then ask Kin for a recheck.

Shinsekai-

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Joined November 2012

Shinsekai- 2017-08-26T14:02:02+00:00

Kin wrote:
Just few suggest before clicking on QF

[Muzukashii]

00:10:673 (36) - maybe better remove finisher? every diff use silmple d here OH WELL fixed XD
Might be better to use a spinner to end the diff at the same spot as other diff. Only your diff doesn't use one. I can understand why you don't use it (because I also don't like using spinner this way) ; but it might be better for consistency across the set. Don't forget about green line if you change it
In every diff 02:08:337 - I'd highly suggest you to move the green line here 02:08:503 -
The kick is too strong to be reduced at 50%

owo

Skylish wrote:
From rdm2857lish, take it as a free mod:

[General]

> Metadata confirmed:

http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cg ... f&event=74

http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cg ... 9&event=74

[chinchin's Muzukashii]

> 00:26:340 - it is a very prominent note for this introduction part with clear vocal and instrumental part shown. How about d kkk to fit them both you are going to map this little intro part? AwA

> 00:30:340 (129,130,131,132) - the order should be kkk k, be identical with 00:38:340 (173,174,175,176) - Of

> 01:06:671 - keeping your intention of using a low density in this section same as what you did at 01:01:338 - , until 01:10:671 - would be a great comparison. No, Because is a muzu... I can put one part more hard than other... What i'm saying? After those part ( 00:56:006 - to 01:01:338 - ) i'm triying to make the next one a "relax" to make one more harder following the piano

> 01:17:338 - Finisher UwU

> 01:42:837 - missing this highest pitch note among the music is kinda silly to choose mapping the not really appealing background accompaniments. Check 01:42:170 - / 01:42:503 - , I expect there's an intention to follow the melody with a 'tail note'. 01:43:003 - Shifting it to 01:42:837 - and add Finish can solve this part easily. Ty for help me

> 02:08:503 - umm unified spinner? i don't like the spinners >_> but i put it anyways

[]

If Kin wants to a final check, I dont really mind though.

:D

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