Rie Murakawa - Asuiro (TV size) · forum

Asuka_-

Joined February 2016

Asuka_- 2017-06-29T09:28:37+00:00

Mei wrote:
[Asuka_-'s Normal]
00:16:415 (6,7) - use the pattern like this would be better
keep for now because i followed vocal in this part, so prolly i have to follow 00:16:415 - imo.
00:24:685 (7) - using a note to replace the slider nice~
00:43:172 (1) - add a normal-hitnormal on the slider head? okay=

really Thanks Mei !!

upd

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Title:Asuiro
TitleUnicode:アスイロ
Artist:Rie Murakawa
ArtistUnicode:村川梨衣
Creator:Firis Mistlud
Version:Asuka_-'s Normal
Source:エスカ&ロジーのアトリエ～黄昏の空の錬金術士～
Tags:Escha & Logy no Atelier: Tasogare no Sora no Renkinjutsushi A15 Alchemists of the Dusk Sky opening KuranteMelodii krt Suzuki_1112 LowComboFC LCFC Moecho Moeri Pata-mon Asuka_-
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-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-07-01T16:36:16+00:00

update tmr

-Atri-

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Joined March 2013

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-Atri- 2017-07-02T05:08:53+00:00

kanor wrote:
[Genal]
SB\AsuiroDB - 僔儑乕僩僇僢僩.lnk 这是啥手殘orz，改了

[Easy]
LowComboFC不懂中文，所以我翻譯了給他了
00:55:334 (4) - 这里不打算跟00:55:658 - 这个提琴的音吗，感觉有点突兀，后面01:16:091 (4) - 这里就这么跟了，最好统一一下吧之前改了
01:03:280 (4) - 这个挨到血线了改掉了

[猪腩肚]
為啥是豬腩肚2333333333
难点在滑条，撑星的却是PP跳，真是心机（

GL

Mei wrote:
[notice][Existence]
00:04:091 这里可以加个note，最好是3连這裡我試過了，是1/6，我試過用滑條和連打兩者都感覺很怪，畢竟我想善良一些
00:08:145 (1) - 改成向上的比较好好的
00:11:874 (5,1) - 这里感觉比较怪，不过从美观上来说这样移一下改掉了
00:23:712 (1) - 这个滑条开头可以用normal的sample set 好的
00:25:009 (6,1) - 这个nc我感觉可以换下，不过换和不换我觉得都有点难读這裡是故意的，我想分開 00:25:172 (1) - 的人聲部分
00:25:009 (6) - 很像是前一部分的，所以我移後一個紅線NC
00:26:469 (1) - 类似这边开始的NC我觉得用的不好，完全没什么特别的意义，如果是00:28:415 (1) - 表示空拍还可以，其他的NC没必要這個我都是故意的，只不過我是從人聲來看，可以分開成3-4-4或者3-2-2-2-2這樣的
00:53:550 (1) - crtl+G 感觉好些不，間距太大了，會很易斷
01:18:036 (1) - 这个有点丑改了一些

这个游戏的男主和女主的人设感觉都很涩情wtmsb

謝摸～
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-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-07-02T10:14:17+00:00

Moecho wrote:
Kisses wrote:
[notice]
Moecho
00:14:550 (3,1) - imo this pattern would be fine if it were stacked. The NC on 00:14:631 (1) would indicate it's a downbeat and I'm sure a lot of players would therefore read
For me I read it exactly as it is with all object combinations what are in the current way, the downbeat means that the note before it must be a 1/4.
00:23:631 (6,1) - A bit nazi but the stack is off
Fixed, this is editor's fault...
00:18:847 (1,1,1) - I'm not entirely sure what you're going for the SV decreases but imho it would be fine without them at all. I don't feel it appropriate to have the section 00:19:820 (1,2,3,4,5) a lower SV than 00:15:928 (1,2,3,4) when they pretty much sound and play the same. tl;dr I think it would be ideal to have one main SV for the whole verse instead of using several different ones
It's rather preferences of what you want to emphasize in sections. The bass wasn't as clear in the first section to me, but I adjusted it.
00:20:145 (2,3,4,5) - The spacing can throw people off a bit here. This is because the spacing between 4 and 5 is similar to 2 and 3. One way you could make it more readable is to try a pattern like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8436729 .
Uh.. I'd rather not overlap. Gap of 00:19:820 (1,2) - and 00:20:469 (4,5) - is actually consistent.. There's no problem about this.
01:19:982 (1,1) - a bit subjective but I feel this would play a lot smoother rhythmically if these were 1/2 sliders
Yeah well, using 1/2 sliders for them will not give the same feeling of this special rhythm that they're expressing in the song. Refer to similar pattern in Skystar's Airman:
Image
01:22:091 (1) - This felt a bit lackluster with the lack of spacing emphasis on such a predominant beat
01:21:280 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - The thing is, if I did emphasize on this beat, then the whole DS decreasing pattern will get a lot less effect, since the section for it isn't very long. So this is my final choice to emphasize this emphasis change from regular into smaller.

All diffs
01:22:091 - I don't like how the volume for this timing point is so low. It makes a lot of the objects barely audible. Try 50% at least
Mine is at 70% tho..
[]GL!
kanor wrote:
[Moecho]
00:18:523 (1,1,2,1,1) - 感觉这么摆用上渐变SV效果不太好，不是很直观，看起来就像突然加了一堆NC
我覺得OK
00:31:415 (1) - 这个应该是不小心按偏了吧
你仔細聽聽，這裡更像是在藍線的節奏啊
00:50:955 (1,2) - 这里不能直接用滑梯带过去吗？感觉这里突然塞个二连比起前面的有点突兀欸
這是歌曲裡面的節奏啊...
01:11:712 (1,2) - ^
kai都是1.0-1.5，01:22:091 - 结尾却变成0.75，我大概知道你的想法，不过感觉有点太慢了，那种逐渐加强的鼓点感觉还没表现出来就结束了，稍微提高一点sv试试看？
01:22:091 (1,1,2,3,4,5) - 和 01:23:388 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 後面這裡的對比性的激烈度怎麼做？我感覺現在這樣可以的

GL
Mei wrote:
[Moecho's Insane]
00:12:847 (3,4,1) - 个人感觉4离1近一点3远一点比较好
00:13:172 (1) - 這個音強許多啊？
00:30:199 (1,1) - 这两个怪怪的
我也覺得啊，但是歌曲的這些節奏絕對是不在白線
00:43:820 (1) - 这个可以叠在后面滑条的头上
現在的這個角度比較好
00:48:685 (2,1) - 别的地方还好，这个地方空了比别的地方多空了1/4的间隔，个人认为不太好，后面也有类似的
這鼓點就是這樣的.. 而且這裡間距也夠明顯不是1/2了吧

这个游戏的男主和女主的人设感觉都很涩情wtmsb

Pata-Mon

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Pata-Mon 2017-07-02T12:56:48+00:00

scanter wrote:
Pata-Mon's Hard
01:12:036 - normal sampleset k
01:19:496 (1) - the distance seems too large compared with before. it's jump after slider and flow is good, I think it's ok
01:22:091 - finish not need

Kisses wrote:
Pata mon
00:24:685 (3,4,1) - this is quite messy, it would be better to avoid this It's ok imo
00:25:009 (1) to 00:34:415 (1) - I really can't tell what you're trying to follow tbh, the rhythm feels very forced. It's like you made up your own rhythm instead of following the song I follow drum in general. But make some small changes
00:39:280 (3,4) - This would follow the vocals better imo http://puu.sh/wu0qJ/d38f4d601c.jpg
I want to follow the drum

ShogunMoon wrote:
Pata-Mon's Hard
00:35:712 - 00:35:874 - better to map it's sound off when you finish with a 1/2 slider and more you can emphasis some vocals and be better able to follow long sliders imo I want to follow drum
00:37:496 - 00:37:658 - here too ^
00:37:658 - 00:39:766 - ^ ^
00:37:982 (1,2,3) - add some whistle for emphasis the piano change in other way
00:55:820 (5) - replace them by 2 note like you did at 01:16:577 (5,6) 01:16:739 (6) - is drum sound while 01:16:739 (6) - not. so keep
01:05:063 (1) - remove nc, no reason to add it because there is the same density here 01:03:928 (1,2,3) this nc is same as every nc at the bar line
01:11:712 (1) - on the tail you forgot to put sampleset normal if you want to be consistent with 00:50:955 (1,2) k
01:23:063 (4,6) - stack themnot need

Mei wrote:
[Pata-Mon's Hard ]
00:37:820 (4) - 感觉不如删掉跟鼓就要跟到
00:44:793 (1) - 去掉NC 不用，后面三个是一组，而且也是kiai前强调
减速段的节奏下的不太好，还可以在改进的感觉

thanks for mod

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-Atri-

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Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-07-02T16:51:36+00:00

Updated

- Pika

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Joined March 2017

- Pika 2017-07-05T23:16:50+00:00

I really can't find anything wrong :v
Good Luck!

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-07-06T00:14:29+00:00

LOL

No problem

Otosaka-Yu

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Otosaka-Yu 2017-07-06T04:11:48+00:00

~~感觉欠下太多债~~

Mei wrote:
[1112's Another]
00:04:901 这个音空的很难受，建议填上目前这个位置我是跟的钢琴，感觉还好
00:09:928 (3) - ^ ^
00:19:172 (1) - 感觉可以不用NC fixed
00:20:469 (1) - ^ ^
00:24:361 (1) - ^ ^
00:35:063 (2,3,1) - 很坑移近点了
00:37:172 (3) - 移到上边比较好，比如x260y84 fixed
00:44:793 (1,2,1) - 这个也很坑就目前来看这个还是能打得动的

这个游戏的男主和女主的人设感觉都很涩情wtmsb

蟹蟹~

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ArtistUnicode:村川梨衣
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Version:1112's Another
Source:エスカ&ロジーのアトリエ～黄昏の空の錬金術士～
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-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-07-06T07:09:04+00:00

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Thanks IamKwaN

Nao Tomori

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Nao Tomori 2017-07-11T18:18:27+00:00

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Nao Tomori

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Nao Tomori 2017-07-13T15:53:17+00:00

hi

[existenc]
the biggest issue here is the comical lack of differentiation between parts. i mean, 00:04:253 (1,2,3) - starting from here, the patterning and spacing is almost identical for the entire map. compare 00:10:091 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - which is the base spacing to 00:49:172 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - adn you'll see that the spacing is nearly identical.

00:25:172 - this part is good. it's very different from the other parts. same for the first few seconds. but outside of that, the map is way too similar imo. so basically i suggest massively massively nerfing the 00:04:253 - section to be significantly smaller spacing than the kiai

anyway

00:09:118 (5,6) - makes sense to make this a slider cuz piano

00:13:496 - vocal?

00:15:928 - this section doesnt seem to focus on anything rhythmically, it's just 1/2 spam; i suggest fllowing the vocals instead

generally fine, other than the ridiculously high base spacing

01:10:253 (1,2,3,4) - would be cute to highlight the violin melody a bit more

would be more interesting to see direction changes on the ending pp jump part imo

[1112]
00:04:739 (3) - what is this following? piano? if you're following piano, 00:05:550 (1,2) - should be replaced with a slider too

00:07:334 (2,3) - ctrl g here makes more sense to follow the piano melody that you've been following, ctrl g on 00:07:334 (2,3,4) - makes more sense for the vocals.. switching to drums here just feels weirdly disconnected sincce you have been mapping off beat stuff earlier

00:08:631 (3,4) - ctrl g

00:24:928 - triple owo

00:37:009 (2,3,4) - random wide angle is kinda weird here imo

00:38:469 (2,3,4) - seems better to make 2 sliders cuz vocals

00:40:739 (2) - meh, think just putting a slider at 00:40:577 (1) - is better

i dont like the 1/2 jumps on vocals, feels kinda overdone lol

01:11:226 (5,6) - think u should just extend this if u want extra pressure on 01:11:712 (1) -
also the visual looks ugly cuz it doesnt line up at all

01:18:847 (4,5) - has vocal, 01:18:523 (2,3) - doesn't but it's same jumps? pretty weird

01:19:982 (1,2) - this is really misleading

[moecho]
00:18:523 (1) - wats with the nc spam

00:43:658 (2,1) - ew random wide angle

00:55:658 (1,2,3) - eeeeee
the claps honestly sound really disconnected from the song, i can't tell what theyre following cuz the vocals are doing really simple stuff..

[patamon]
feels like just a massive lack of circles... like everything is sliders, kinda boring imo, and as a result the very ending is a HUGE diff spike
like
00:56:955 (3) - you could put these as circles

00:18:523 (1) - or some of these

or 01:10:739 (2) -

[asuka]
i think same problem; the amount of sliders is ridiculously high. sliders are harder than circles for new players, despite what SR says. stuff like 00:50:955 (1) - is much much harder than if you put in some 1/2 circles or 1/1 gaps. i feel like the difficulty of these parts is a bit too high, and you should put some circle based patterning to avoid this issue.
[easy]
00:43:172 (1) - too short to be rankable =D

nothing much

anyway yea there were a lot of general issues rather than specific ones

good luck!

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-07-13T16:37:28+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
hi

[existenc]
the biggest issue here is the comical lack of differentiation between parts. i mean, 00:04:253 (1,2,3) - starting from here, the patterning and spacing is almost identical for the entire map. compare 00:10:091 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - which is the base spacing to 00:49:172 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - adn you'll see that the spacing is nearly identical.

00:25:172 - this part is good. it's very different from the other parts. same for the first few seconds. but outside of that, the map is way too similar imo. so basically i suggest massively massively nerfing the 00:04:253 - section to be significantly smaller spacing than the kiai Discussed with Moecho, and we do agree that i should nerf some spacing before kiai

anyway

00:09:118 (5,6) - makes sense to make this a slider cuz piano Listen clearly, it actually 2 notes, not a single piano note

00:13:496 - vocal? sure, since someone also pointed this out

00:15:928 - this section doesnt seem to focus on anything rhythmically, it's just 1/2 spam; i suggest fllowing the vocals instead I disagree, It doesn't needed to have to focus on 1 instrument, that will be too boring , i wanted to have combination of drums, which 00:16:577 (3,4) - clearly have

generally fine, other than the ridiculously high base spacing

01:10:253 (1,2,3,4) - would be cute to highlight the violin melody a bit more nope, want to highlight the drums and vocal more

would be more interesting to see direction changes on the ending pp jump part imo

[easy]
00:43:172 (1) - too short to be rankable =D tru

nothing much

anyway yea there were a lot of general issues rather than specific ones

good luck!

Moecho: All no change

Thanks for the mod

看來我會被愛絲卡宰了

Asuka_-

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Asuka_- 2017-07-14T01:34:31+00:00

i'll reply~

Asuka_-

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Asuka_- 2017-07-14T16:14:03+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[asuka]
i think same problem; the amount of sliders is ridiculously high. sliders are harder than circles for new players, despite what SR says. stuff like 00:50:955 (1) - is much much harder than if you put in some 1/2 circles or 1/1 gaps. i feel like the difficulty of these parts is a bit too high, and you should put some circle based patterning to avoid this issue.

ok changed~

Otosaka-Yu

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Otosaka-Yu 2017-07-14T18:41:06+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[1112]
00:04:739 (3) - what is this following? piano? if you're following piano, 00:05:550 (1,2) - should be replaced with a slider too fixed

00:07:334 (2,3) - ctrl g here makes more sense to follow the piano melody that you've been following, ctrl g on 00:07:334 (2,3,4) - makes more sense for the vocals.. switching to drums here just feels weirdly disconnected sincce you have been mapping off beat stuff earlier this is a bit strange

00:08:631 (3,4) - ctrl g ^

00:24:928 - triple owo fixed

00:37:009 (2,3,4) - random wide angle is kinda weird here imo first to keep a moment, the future may think of a better way to change

00:38:469 (2,3,4) - seems better to make 2 sliders cuz vocals fixed

00:40:739 (2) - meh, think just putting a slider at 00:40:577 (1) - is better

i dont like the 1/2 jumps on vocals, feels kinda overdone lol ok xd

01:11:226 (5,6) - think u should just extend this if u want extra pressure on 01:11:712 (1) -
also the visual looks ugly cuz it doesnt line up at all i think there should be no problem here, because here just stressed the changes in vocal

01:18:847 (4,5) - has vocal, 01:18:523 (2,3) - doesn't but it's same jumps? pretty weird it fine

01:19:982 (1,2) - this is really misleading ok change

good luck!

thank you~

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-Atri-

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Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-07-21T13:36:46+00:00

Updated

Also, Rhythms and DS in Moecho's insane is playable before you complain about it

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2017-07-22T17:40:08+00:00

o i remember this anime

Existence
00:12:036 (1) - pls, more symmetrical pls ;w;
00:13:739 - u can try using a triplet here, i feel like the 2 slider should have a more connected feel cuz of the sliding sound or w/e that starts here 00:13:658 -
00:14:955 - default claps? rly?

00:23:712 (1,2) - spacing kinda low, actually makes it feel like an antijump here :S
00:25:009 (6) - i feel like this should be placed somewhere away from the following jump pattern of 00:25:172 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - right now the 6 just feels too connected to the rest, which is something you probably don't want considering how a completely new phrase starts on 00:25:172 -
try changing the structure a bit
00:27:604 (1,2,1,2) - shouldnt these change direction? like 00:32:793 (1,2,1,2) -
01:02:307 (6,1) - why not blanket the circle under that bend part

111111117
00:04:739 (3) - so u skip the vocals and drums here because it seems like you want to map the piano. thats okay, but then 00:07:334 (2,3) - whats with this part lol? having a 1/1 slider makes even more sense here because of the vocals and piano but u dont seem to do it
00:09:928 (3) - same thing ^
00:19:496 (7,1) - a bit more distance here pls :^)

moe
01:08:145 (2,4) - ..blanket? lol

pata
00:00:361 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - u could use more spacing in general in this section? looks a bit cluttered, not really that important tho
kiai needs more hitsound volume at least 60-70%

Asuka
00:04:253 - why is this section just 1/1 spam? im sure u can map some of those vocals, come on this isn't and easy diff xD

Otosaka-Yu

1,117 posts

Joined August 2013

Otosaka-Yu 2017-07-22T17:41:06+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
o i remember this anime

111111117 what 111111117????
00:04:739 (3) - so u skip the vocals and drums here because it seems like you want to map the piano. thats okay, but then 00:07:334 (2,3) - whats with this part lol? having a 1/1 slider makes even more sense here because of the vocals and piano but u dont seem to do it
00:09:928 (3) - same thing ^
00:19:496 (7,1) - a bit more distance here pls :^)

all fixed :3
Thank you~!

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Last edited by Otosaka-Yu 2017-07-22T18:20:31+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2017-07-22T18:19:28+00:00

@Naotoshi
I think it would be to difficult for a hard diff if i add more circle, and the end of this song is the most strong part in this song so I think it's np to use more circle there then before. So I want to keep.

@Kibbleru hmm well I use small ds because this part is really soft and I want to strengthen the contrast between 00:00:361 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - and 00:04:253 (1,2,3,4) - , so I want to keep

Thanks for mod!

-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-07-22T18:40:27+00:00

エスカちゃんに殺される見たい

Kibbleru wrote:
o i remember this anime

Existence
00:12:036 (1) - pls, more symmetrical pls ;w; fixed
00:13:739 - u can try using a triplet here, i feel like the 2 slider should have a more connected feel cuz of the sliding sound or w/e that starts here 00:13:658 - After some thoughts, i prefer to replace this as there's no supporting sound to make a triplet imo, even there's some people who wants to map vocal here
00:14:955 - default claps? rly? Yeah i prefer default over custom one
00:23:712 (1,2) - spacing kinda low, actually makes it feel like an antijump here :S Tried to fix
00:25:009 (6) - i feel like this should be placed somewhere away from the following jump pattern of 00:25:172 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - right now the 6 just feels too connected to the rest, which is something you probably don't want considering how a completely new phrase starts on 00:25:172 -
try changing the structure a bit changed into a way that gives rougher transition
00:27:604 (1,2,1,2) - shouldnt these change direction? like 00:32:793 (1,2,1,2) - I really like how those varieties and aesthetics does,
also, making them consistent plays too forced, especially the 1st one
01:02:307 (6,1) - why not blanket the circle under that bend part This one is intended

moe
01:08:145 (2,4) - ..blanket? lol Talked to Moecho on this one, she said this one was intended

Thanks for the mod~ yay for me getting killed by Escha-chan

Asuka_-

1,459 posts

Joined February 2016

Asuka_- 2017-07-24T01:56:33+00:00

Asuka
00:04:253 - why is this section just 1/1 spam? im sure u can map some of those vocals, come on this isn't and easy diff xD

okay~ xD
Thanks!!!!!

update

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Doormat

2,049 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2017-07-30T04:53:55+00:00

m4m, sorry it's late

[Collab Easy]

00:06:847 (1) - not a big fan of switching to the vocals for this slider here when this entire pattern 00:04:253 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - is placing emphasis on the kicks. it feels really off
00:17:226 (1) - this has a similar problem to the above; switching to vocals feels really off here since with 00:18:523 (2,3) - you switch to piano emphasis, but then you totally ignored the piano on 00:17:874 -
everything else is passable i guess

[Asuka_-]

00:06:685 (6) - NC
00:17:063 (7) - feels like an odd place to put a circle, especially when 00:16:901 - is more emphasized because of the snare. try moving this to the white tick. vocal here isn't really that powerful to warrant a click imo
00:18:361 (3) - ^similar to above; i feel it would be more comfortable and have more emphasis effect if this was moved to 00:18:199 -
00:22:253 (7) - ^read the last two

[Pata-Mon]

00:25:658 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - entire section here feels really undermapped, especially when compared to the Normal and Easy diffs
00:35:388 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this section also feels really undermapped; it doesn't feel appropriate for this difficulty level, especially since everything else is so much more dense in comparison
other than the undermapped parts the diff is fine

[Moecho]

00:05:550 (1,2) - 00:06:847 (1,2) - based on your patterning idea giving emphasis to the piano notes, these should have more spacing, like 00:04:253 (1,2) - and 00:08:145 (1,2) -
00:12:036 (1,2) - this should be more similar to rhythm and patterning of 00:09:442 (1,2,3) - and 00:10:739 (1,2,3) - instead of going back to 00:04:253 (1,2) - 00:05:550 (1,2) -
00:13:009 (4,1) - movement feels a bit awkward here; 1/4 slider suggests a downward left movement but then next slider is diagonal right movement
00:25:658 (1) - as much as i like the slider art, the long slider doesn't feel appropriate as this part feels really undermapped
00:36:036 (3) - why not try a repeat slider instead? 1/1 gap sounds really awkward
00:40:253 - 1/1 gap also feels a bit out of place here
00:54:361 (2) - 00:55:009 (2) - 00:55:658 (1) - 00:55:982 (3) - 01:15:118 (2) - 01:15:766 (2) - 01:16:415 (2) - 01:16:739 (4) - clap on slider end is inappropriate because drums aren't that loud
01:04:415 (1,2) - don't use 1/8 sliders for an insane of this level, especially since these look a lot like 1/4 sliders

[1112]

01:01:172 (4,1) - really awkward movement because of bad lead in from 4->1

[Existence]

00:00:685 (2,3) - 00:01:334 (4,1) - should have a little bit higher spacing to better reflect piano emphasis
00:39:118 (1,2) - a little bit too cramped together imo; should be spaced out a bit more
00:44:631 (2) - why do people like making their 1/4 sliders look a lot like 1/2 sliders lol, but seriously, based on the previous buildup section using all slow sliders i wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of people misread this as a 1/2 slider
01:20:631 (1,2) - this is actually 1/6 snap
01:25:658 (7,8) - this jump feels a bit too big in comparison to everything else around it
01:26:955 (7,8,9,1) - this jump plays a bit weird cause it's the only jump angle that's obtuse instead of acute. would play more nicely if you made the angle more sharper, i.e. move 01:27:118 (8,9,1) - up

not bad, but not impressed either.

Otosaka-Yu

1,117 posts

Joined August 2013

Otosaka-Yu 2017-07-30T08:23:02+00:00

Doormat wrote:
[1112]
01:01:172 (4,1) - really awkward movement because of bad lead in from 4->1 remove 2 and 4

thank you~

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-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-07-30T15:40:33+00:00

Doormat wrote:
m4m, sorry it's late

[Existence]
00:00:685 (2,3) - 00:01:334 (4,1) - should have a little bit higher spacing to better reflect piano emphasis Uhhh I want to keep the emphasis minimum in a calm part, keep.
00:39:118 (1,2) - a little bit too cramped together imo; should be spaced out a bit more Make it a better overlap
00:44:631 (2) - why do people like making their 1/4 sliders look a lot like 1/2 sliders lol, but seriously, based on the previous buildup section using all slow sliders i wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of people misread this as a 1/2 slider The difference is major between 00:43:982 (2) - (1/2) and 00:44:631 (2) - (1/4) , thus, player would most likely to expect a faster slider as 00:44:307 (1,2,3) - have a sudden flow speedup
01:20:631 (1,2) - this is actually 1/6 snap tru
01:25:658 (7,8) - this jump feels a bit too big in comparison to everything else around it Fixed after testing
01:26:955 (7,8,9,1) - this jump plays a bit weird cause it's the only jump angle that's obtuse instead of acute. would play more nicely if you made the angle more sharper, i.e. move 01:27:118 (8,9,1) - up Fixed
not bad, but not impressed either.

I'll fixed collab easy when LowcomboFC gives a reply

also updated

Thanks for the mod~

Last edited by -Atri- 2017-07-31T05:10:44+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

-Atri-

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Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-07-30T15:41:28+00:00

I need some help, Escha is coming to Ertona just to make me an ingredient for her tonight's dinner

lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-07-30T15:43:56+00:00

@Doormat good point

diff

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-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-07-30T16:39:00+00:00

fixed in easy

Asuka_-

1,459 posts

Joined February 2016

Asuka_- 2017-08-03T13:51:20+00:00

sry for late
@doormat
all fixed

osu file format v14

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Thansk!!

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-08-03T19:00:30+00:00

Update

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-08-09T17:47:10+00:00

だれを探すかなー

Otosaka-Yu

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Otosaka-Yu 2017-08-14T03:58:12+00:00

xd

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-09-13T16:11:58+00:00

Antigrave

Chihara Minori

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Chihara Minori 2017-09-17T05:03:21+00:00

Firis Mistlud wrote:
Antigrave

why u not letting me get 2 instd

box of depression to find mistakes

Normal
00:02:469 (5) - as clearly heared, this was a downbeat. Where since you apply reverse slider for 00:01:172 (3,4) - where the tail hit stringer beat than at 00:02:793 - its feel unnatural to just sweep them with same rhytm. Suggest to remove the reverse and add a circle instead here
00:06:685 (6,7) - switch the rhythm, and with that you can apply a proper NC at 00:06:847 - where it become the slider head. ye stack the circle at slider head
00:11:874 (1,2) - same as above ^
00:19:496 (6,1) - polish the blanket
00:21:604 (6,1) - ^
00:24:361 (6) - add slight down curve for some reason
00:32:793 (1) - upcurve instead? it feed a bit od to put directional slider curve after straight slider
00:43:982 (2) - i dont really see the reason to curving this, just simply delete the curve point
00:50:955 (1,3) - can you just copaste (1) and mirror it for (3)? its bother me
01:14:307 (1,2) - i see that you trying to continuing the circle shape, but the (1) a bit sharp just by seeing it, slightly reduve the cureve of (1)
01:22:739 (2,3) - actually just to add more varienty, make tis 2 as straight slider instead, so the next one get curved to increase the intensity of upbeat

Hard
00:15:928 (1) - add slight downcurve here? i mean you use this kind of flow like always tho
00:24:928 (4,1) - got a little missread at first place, maybe smth like this? https://puu.sh/xBEp2/35ce9f32f6.png ye the blanket must sacrificed sadly
00:29:388 (2) - not really reccomend to stack it in case the strongest beat at section is on 00:29:550 - so i would recc just sparated it linearly with (3) slider, around x252 y 344
00:31:415 - ?? you meant to end it at `00:31:334 - yes?
00:31:982 (2) - snapping?
00:49:334 - since the current one is a bit monoton for me, try this rhythm https://puu.sh/xBEyh/a98425bebe.png
01:16:739 (6) - tbh i recognize it as trips at first place, and then it does supposed to be trip, so try stack at slider head instead and add note 01:16:820 - and voila
01:27:280 (1) - x264 y364 maybe
Since it too solid for me (ye its an excuses lol) i cant really point much but some suggestion

Insane
first i have question about NCin on this diff tbh, yes i understand that you consistantly use it on every new vocal but it just feel not neccesarily right. Like eventhrough you could it just feel overused for simple readable pattern such like 00:18:523 (1,1,2,1,1) -
00:12:847 (3) - x80 y144 linear transtition yes?
00:14:226 (2) - i have feeling it flow better if it going upwards instead, or maybe just me
00:20:955 (6) - x408 y72 where it linearly flowed and also blanketing
00:30:199 (1,1) - something wrong with the snapping
00:34:415 - try this https://puu.sh/xBEVu/65011bc5ef.png
00:43:820 (1) - x48 y124 pls dont kill me
00:55:658 (1) - just ctrl+g it, isnt its nice to keep the pattern consistent .w. you actually do this at 01:16:415 (2,3) -
01:04:739 (2) - you can actually keep the circular by simply ctrl+g this lol
01:26:955 (5) - im k if you want kill me for this one https://puu.sh/xBFav/454c1f3a92.png

Another
idk, im not mapping ex
00:14:631 (1) - somehow i do this https://puu.sh/xBFhq/2459a28946.png
00:32:631 (3) - stack at 00:30:847 (1) - just to connect it maybe?
00:54:685 (1,2,3) - uchiha fanbase
00:59:712 (6) - stack at 00:50:631 (2) - tail lol
01:24:361 (5) - sentrimetical at x401 y265

Existance
i give up
00:23:226 (4) - x176 y212
00:34:901 (2,3,4) - maybe make it a bit further to give the helipng line https://puu.sh/xBFD6/9ea89ca54c.png
00:40:253 (4,1) - ng
01:13:658 (4,5,1) - properly stacked under slider body?
01:27:118 (8,9,1) - im suck at modding final diff ;-; x466 y178

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-Atri- 2017-09-17T17:17:11+00:00

Time Capsule wrote:
Firis Mistlud wrote:
Antigrave
why u not letting me get 2 instd trololololololol

Existance
i give up
00:23:226 (4) - x176 y212 Did it in other way to align the notes better
00:34:901 (2,3,4) - maybe make it a bit further to give the helipng line https://puu.sh/xBFD6/9ea89ca54c.png I could only say it depends on skin, it's fine for me
00:40:253 (4,1) - ng nah there's nothing special here
01:13:658 (4,5,1) - properly stacked under slider body? k
01:27:118 (8,9,1) - im suck at modding final diff ;-; x466 y178 No, offscreen.

Thanks for the mod~

Asuka_-

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Asuka_- 2017-09-19T15:06:37+00:00

Time Capsule wrote:
box of depression to find mistakes
Normal
00:02:469 (5) - as clearly heared, this was a downbeat. Where since you apply reverse slider for 00:01:172 (3,4) - where the tail hit stringer beat than at 00:02:793 - its feel unnatural to just sweep them with same rhytm. Suggest to remove the reverse and add a circle instead here
it's fine imo, xd
00:06:685 (6,7) - switch the rhythm, and with that you can apply a proper NC at 00:06:847 - where it become the slider head. ye stack the circle at slider head hm... i follow vocal..
00:11:874 (1,2) - same as above ^ keep for now
00:19:496 (6,1) - polish the blanket ye
00:21:604 (6,1) - ^ ye
00:24:361 (6) - add slight down curve for some reason keep for now
00:32:793 (1) - upcurve instead? it feed a bit od to put directional slider curve after straight slider keep for now
00:43:982 (2) - i dont really see the reason to curving this, just simply delete the curve point
little changed
00:50:955 (1,3) - can you just copaste (1) and mirror it for (3)? its bother me i try
01:14:307 (1,2) - i see that you trying to continuing the circle shape, but the (1) a bit sharp just by seeing it, slightly reduve the cureve of (1) i try
01:22:739 (2,3) - actually just to add more varienty, make tis 2 as straight slider instead, so the next one get curved to increase the intensity of upbeat
bit changed

Thanks!!

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Otosaka-Yu

1,117 posts

Joined August 2013

Otosaka-Yu 2017-09-27T13:57:10+00:00

順便：tags加上1112deng

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-10-08T04:51:51+00:00

Existence

00:08:145 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - tbh your spacing in the first part feels really forced with the music xP. Should have started slower and not used such high spacing honestly.
00:43:820 (1,2) - The jump + flowbreak cause this to be more emphasized than 00:44:307 (1) - .
01:04:415 (2,3) - symmetry is pretty off.

Generally not a fan of your slider designs or your jump aesthetic before the kiai.

1112's Another

00:06:523 (3,4) - This should be a slider if you're following instruments.
00:08:631 (3,4) - And this should be ctrl+g'ed
00:10:739 (1,2,3) - Really no justification for all 3 being circles...

The rhythm in the intro is really confusing...

Moecho's Insane

00:05:226 (4,1) - This felt too big for the intro.

Solid diff.

Pata-Mon's Hard

Fine.

Asuka_'s Normal

00:01:172 (3,4,5) - Just use 1/1 sliders and ignore the white tick? This rhythm is so dense for the intro..
00:06:685 (6) - NC
00:26:469 (1) - Why are you NC'ing every measure then every two.

NC seems kinda confused before the chorus so go through your NC rhythm again.

Collab Easy

Seems fine.

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I'm not really a fan of the top diffs right now, sorry xP.

Otosaka-Yu

1,117 posts

Joined August 2013

Otosaka-Yu 2017-10-08T05:00:05+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
1112's Another

00:06:523 (3,4) - This should be a slider if you're following instruments.
00:08:631 (3,4) - And this should be ctrl+g'ed
00:10:739 (1,2,3) - Really no justification for all 3 being circles...

The rhythm in the intro is really confusing...

all fixed! thank you~

osu file format v14

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