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Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [OsuMania]

posted 2016-09-12T02:31:03+00:00

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Ilham

Global Moderator / Elite Nominator

683 posts

Joined August 2013

Ilham 2017-06-17T14:40:18+00:00

M4M yoyo

Expert

00:04:432 (4432|0) - this note make the 1-4 roll became 5 notes, how about ctrl+j this 00:04:357 (4357|1,4432|0) -
00:05:557 (5557|1) - I hear different sound from here with 00:05:257 (5257|1) - suggesting to do 00:05:557 (5557|1,5632|0,5707|2,5782|3) - ctrl+(h+j)
00:42:907 (42907|0,42907|1) - about this, snare sound, so maybe try another composition, like this maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8366989 for hand balance purpose, and here also if apply 00:44:407 (44407|2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8367022
00:51:007 (51007|3) - highlighted :3 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8367046 maybe try to put one of them in left hand?
01:46:507 (106507|1) - 7 stack is too much imo owo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8367151
02:00:532 (120532|2) - 6 is still to much aaa :") https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8367169
03:33:607 (213607|2) - from this part until 03:34:807 (214807|3) - the bass(?) sound like 03:30:157 (210157|0,210457|2,210757|2,211057|1) - etc have been stopped right? I think it'll be nice to make different pattern -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8367268 (not jacking)
03:43:207 (223207|2) - same ^

slaine is shit
Nightfall and Insane are I icon, I've mod I so gonna try another icon, H ~~unfinished~~ oh LN wat to say, N skipped, E is perfect and pleasing while testplaying..

forgive me for one diff mod ._. here star
goodLuck o/

~~won't you do something with the missing N diff lel~~ ok

riunosk

1,116 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-06-17T23:13:50+00:00

Ilham wrote:
M4M yoyo

Expert
00:04:432 (4432|0) - this note make the 1-4 roll became 5 notes, how about ctrl+j this 00:04:357 (4357|1,4432|0) - ok
00:05:557 (5557|1) - I hear different sound from here with 00:05:257 (5257|1) - suggesting to do 00:05:557 (5557|1,5632|0,5707|2,5782|3) - ctrl+(h+j) sure
00:42:907 (42907|0,42907|1) - about this, snare sound, so maybe try another composition, like this maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8366989 for hand balance purpose, and here also if apply 00:44:407 (44407|2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8367022 fully intended patterning
00:51:007 (51007|3) - highlighted :3 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8367046 maybe try to put one of them in left hand? rearranged slightly but accepted
01:46:507 (106507|1) - 7 stack is too much imo owo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8367151 oops fixed
02:00:532 (120532|2) - 6 is still to much aaa :") https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8367169 :c fixed
03:33:607 (213607|2) - from this part until 03:34:807 (214807|3) - the bass(?) sound like 03:30:157 (210157|0,210457|2,210757|2,211057|1) - etc have been stopped right? I think it'll be nice to make different pattern -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8367268 (not jacking) good idea
03:43:207 (223207|2) - same ^ ^
slaine is shit wut is slaine
Nightfall and Insane are I icon, Nightfall was meant to have an X icon, but it got nerfed so... :c
I've mod I so gonna try another icon, H ~~unfinished~~ oh LN wat to say, LN maps make me sad
N skipped, felt like normal difficulty doesnt exactly fit in the difficulties that i already have
E is perfect and pleasing while testplaying.. das good

forgive me for one diff mod ._. here star is ok and thanks
goodLuck o/

~~won't you do something with the missing N diff lel~~ ok

thank for mod hamham, pls rank more o2i3 thanks

Incendent

182 posts

Joined April 2015

Incendent 2017-06-26T19:06:10+00:00

Hey! Really like your map! (Least favorite version would be Abrax's Insane) But other than that, I didn't really have many problems.

00:38:407 I don't feel like this is a Kiai (Spirit) section. The other 3 have very "Similar" melodies. On this one though, the verse and feel is completely different, one of these things are not like the other and it's the first one. (Song reference of the day! Yay!)

Abrax's Insane// uwuxos?
00:00:000, 00:00:757, 00:01:957, 00:02:857, 00:04:057, (00:04:807 This one is forgivable) These stacks are not aesthetically pleasing. It's not even difficult, I feel like these jacks have no purpose and make no sense to me.
(Yes, there are more stacks, but most of them are forgivable to me, it's just the ones at the very beginning.

01:08:707 - 01:09:307 I've tried using this patern before, I find that it doesn't really work for me. Would you double check it? (I personally think it should be rearanged.
01:11:107 - 01:11:707 This one too, but if not, then at least mirror it, it's literally the exact same. Have some variation in paterns that close to eachother.

That's all I could find, You have earned my 2nd Star! Although from the looks of it, you probably don't need it xD.

Abraxos

855 posts

Joined October 2014

Abraxos 2017-06-29T12:30:51+00:00

Incendent wrote:
yaaaaawn

make this more clickable
Abrax's Insane// uwuxos? he named it not me
00:00:000, 00:00:757, 00:01:957, 00:02:857, 00:04:057, (00:04:807 This one is forgivable) please dont put commas for the love of god
These stacks are not aesthetically pleasing. uh ok? not sure how that's a strong argument

It's not even difficult, this is 3.98 stars, not sure what kind of difficulty you are looking for
I feel like these jacks have no purpose feeling is vague - if you "feel" something's not right then please by all means support your claim. the burden of concept is on the modder here, not sure why i have to decode vague terms such as "feeling that these jacks have no purpose" for you

for me, i can most certainly justify all of these "jacks" (if you can even call them that lmao)
00:00:007 (7|2,157|2,307|2) - background woosh woosh sound in the right audio channel
00:00:907 (907|0,1057|0,1207|0) - emphasis on two main things - the hihat/snare repeats (which is what i want) and/or the synths
00:01:957 (1957|3,1957|2) - this is a chord my friend
00:02:107 (2107|1,2182|3,2257|1,2332|3) - if you mean this then it's the repeated hithat/snare pairs
00:02:857 (2857|0,3007|0,3082|3,3157|0,3232|3) - leads into the trill a little tighter, i want more bias when it comes to percussion
00:04:057 (4057|2,4207|2,4282|1,4357|2,4432|1) - same deal as above

aesthetics is a pretty weird argument now i think about it

and make no sense to me. as with your argument tbf fam
(Yes, there are more stacks, but most of them are forgivable to me, it's just the ones at the very beginning.)

01:08:707 - 01:09:307 I've tried using this pattern before, I find that it doesn't really work for me. Would you double check it? (I personally think it should be rearranged.
01:11:107 - 01:11:707 This one too, but if not, then at least mirror it, it's literally the exact same. Have some variation in patterns that close to each other.
can you tell me what's explicitly wrong rather than paraphrasing "i feel it's off"
these are just meant to be inverses of 00:59:107 (59107|0,59107|3,59257|3,59407|3,59407|0,59557|0,59707|3,59707|0) - and 01:01:507 (61507|3,61507|2,61657|0,61657|3,61807|3,61807|0) - (technically, the bass beats here kinda broke that pattern)

as for their significance they all ride on the same vocal lines in the song

sex

riunosk

1,116 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-06-30T09:42:44+00:00

Incendent wrote:
Hey! Really like your map! (Least favorite version would be Abrax's Insane) But other than that, I didn't really have many problems.

00:38:407 I don't feel like this is a Kiai (Spirit) section. The other 3 have very "Similar" melodies. On this one though, the verse and feel is completely different, one of these things are not like the other and it's the first one. kiai's are up to the discretion of the mapper and since it does not affect gameplay much at all so no change applied here

That's all I could find, You have earned my 2nd Star! Although from the looks of it, you probably don't need it xD. probably.

thank for mod?

DDMythical

DDMythical 2017-07-09T18:16:49+00:00

1 / 2 / 3 / 4

General

Easy

OD 6.9 HP 6.9 is too low, Buff it to 7

Hard

HP OD this low is justifiable because LNs lol
00:40:807 (40807|2,41407|2) - Struggling to hear any justification for the LNs here.
Unfinished?

Insane

Should definitely be OD8 instead of 7 here.

Oh my god I love this map aswell

Nightfall

Goddamn this is good. This is exactly the kind of map we need in ranked, something with character.
My only gripe with it is 3 patterns that i feel are very out of place in this otherwise completely solid map.
00:46:507 (46507|0,46657|0,46807|0,46957|0) - This 4 note anchor here doesn't really follow the drums -- unlike at 00:42:757 (42757|0,42907|0,43057|0,43207|0) -
01:41:519 (101519|3,101557|2,101594|0,101632|1,101669|2,101707|0,101707|3,101744|1,101782|2,101819|3,101857|1,101894|0,101932|2,101969|3) - These bursts are kinda dumb in my opinion. When exiting them you exit into a minijack + minitrill which is almost impossible to hit correctly and then stay on time for the handstream. I would really consider patterning this down into some sort of jumptrill rather than a mad roll burst like this.
03:05:407 (185407|3,185444|2,185482|1,185519|0,185557|3,185594|2,185632|1,185669|0,185707|3,185707|2,185707|1) - Same thing as above here. A minitrill + minijack is created when you exit these rolls which is really bad to play in terms of flow.

love this mapset

riunosk

1,116 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-07-14T06:35:32+00:00

DDMythical wrote:
1 / 2 / 3 / 4
Easy
OD 6.9 HP 6.9 is too low, Buff it to 7 i changed it for the lols

Hard
HP OD this low is justifiable because LNs lol
00:40:807 (40807|2,41407|2) - Struggling to hear any justification for the LNs here. leaving bfn to do this
Unfinished? why do people not read the map description

Nightfall
Goddamn this is good. This is exactly the kind of map we need in ranked, something with character. coo
My only gripe with it is 3 patterns that i feel are very out of place in this otherwise completely solid map. yuy
00:46:507 (46507|0,46657|0,46807|0,46957|0) - This 4 note anchor here doesn't really follow the drums -- unlike at 00:42:757 (42757|0,42907|0,43057|0,43207|0) - fixed
01:41:519 (101519|3,101557|2,101594|0,101632|1,101669|2,101707|0,101707|3,101744|1,101782|2,101819|3,101857|1,101894|0,101932|2,101969|3) - These bursts are kinda dumb in my opinion. When exiting them you exit into a minijack + minitrill which is almost impossible to hit correctly and then stay on time for the handstream. I would really consider patterning this down into some sort of jumptrill rather than a mad roll burst like this. fully intended for difficulty
03:05:407 (185407|3,185444|2,185482|1,185519|0,185557|3,185594|2,185632|1,185669|0,185707|3,185707|2,185707|1) - Same thing as above here. A minitrill + minijack is created when you exit these rolls which is really bad to play in terms of flow. ^
*cough* anti-dt *cough

love this mapset

thank for mod

Raveille

787 posts

Joined February 2012

Raveille 2017-07-16T03:01:59+00:00

codey ravey

osu file format v14

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[ Scarlet Red ]

379 posts

Joined September 2013

[ Scarlet Red ] 2017-07-18T16:47:06+00:00

So... I'm normally a standard modder (but since then I quit) so... first time modding mania. Hopefully I don't do too bad of a job.

M4M Queue, because I only have 1 diff in my mapset currently I'll only mod one diff of your set (so it's even)

Expert

00:27:607 (27607|0,27682|2,27757|0,27832|2) - https://i.gyazo.com/ab9be07d9f00161e6bc ... bc1340.png I personally think that this would work better since it gives more of a "back and forth" feel, which is what I felt when listening to the song at this point.
00:28:807 (28807|0,28807|1) - I'd suggest adding a fourth note here on such a hard beat.
00:51:757 (51757|0,51907|3,52057|1) - I would much rather do something like this since when using both hands on simple patterns I feel it gives a better feel while playing it (could but just personal taste though)
00:55:207 (55207|1,55357|1) - Similar to my first point, I really like something like this would work better truthfully.
00:56:407 (56407|1,56557|1) - ^ I won't point every instance of this (and whether you choose to add it is up to you) but you should consider each instance of it at least.
01:15:757 (75757|3,75757|2) - 01:16:507 (76507|2,76507|3) - Between these two points I feel basic jumptrills would be easier (and fit better) rather than a jump into a single note and back. However if being "easier" wasn't your goal here then I can understand that.
01:16:507 (76507|3,76507|2,76657|0,76807|3) - I think you could change a pattern like this into this because of how the song is in the background (you have the bass sounding during that part so why not chart it, and a kick that could've been a little signified lol)
01:20:107 (80107|2) - Maybe some way to signify it more? Some back and forth holds or an SV of some sort? I'm pretty picky when it comes to these things so it could totally be just personal preference (and if you decide to do this, consider it for any instance of the situation).
02:44:407 (164407|3,164407|3) - You could have made more significance of the background drums imo.

Personally I couldn't find anything else really (noob modder here) but I tried my best to point out problems that I felt could be fixed. Will be posting in your queue with my map.

riunosk

1,116 posts

Joined January 2015

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riunosk 2017-07-19T09:03:15+00:00

[ Scarlet Red ] wrote:
So... I'm normally a standard modder (but since then I quit) so... first time modding mania. Hopefully I don't do too bad of a job.

M4M Queue, because I only have 1 diff in my mapset currently I'll only mod one diff of your set (so it's even)

Expert
lol fail box?
00:27:607 (27607|0,27682|2,27757|0,27832|2) - https://i.gyazo.com/ab9be07d9f00161e6bc ... bc1340.png I personally think that this would work better since it gives more of a "back and forth" feel, which is what I felt when listening to the song at this point. this was the initial pattern but was later changed for variation from nightfall difficulty
00:28:807 (28807|0,28807|1) - I'd suggest adding a fourth note here on such a hard beat. nice catch, applied
00:51:757 (51757|0,51907|3,52057|1) - I would much rather do something like this since when using both hands on simple patterns I feel it gives a better feel while playing it (could but just personal taste though) it is for vocal pitching so no change
00:55:207 (55207|1,55357|1) - Similar to my first point, I really like something like this would work better truthfully. same as above
00:56:407 (56407|1,56557|1) - ^ I won't point every instance of this (and whether you choose to add it is up to you) but you should consider each instance of it at least. ^
01:15:757 (75757|3,75757|2) - 01:16:507 (76507|2,76507|3) - Between these two points I feel basic jumptrills would be easier (and fit better) rather than a jump into a single note and back. However if being "easier" wasn't your goal here then I can understand that. my diffs are charted such that it is as hard as possible so yes your correct
01:16:507 (76507|3,76507|2,76657|0,76807|3) - I think you could change a pattern like this into this because of how the song is in the background (you have the bass sounding during that part so why not chart it, and a kick that could've been a little signified lol) though your suggestion is solid, i find the pattern fine as it is as this LN 01:16:807 (76807|3) - is not for the bass, but for the increasingly loud sound
01:20:107 (80107|2) - Maybe some way to signify it more? Some back and forth holds or an SV of some sort? I'm pretty picky when it comes to these things so it could totally be just personal preference (and if you decide to do this, consider it for any instance of the situation). i have no intentions of adding SVs in this mapset and i dont know a good way to signify this without making this part excessively hard so no change
02:44:407 (164407|3,164407|3) - You could have made more significance of the background drums imo. seems fine as it is
Personally I couldn't find anything else really (noob modder here) but I tried my best to point out problems that I felt could be fixed. Will be posting in your queue with my map.

thankie for moddie
also try to read modding queue rules more carefully next time, would've rejected your request right there

[ Scarlet Red ]

379 posts

Joined September 2013

[ Scarlet Red ] 2017-07-19T21:17:36+00:00

riunosk wrote:
[ Scarlet Red ] wrote:
So... I'm normally a standard modder (but since then I quit) so... first time modding mania. Hopefully I don't do too bad of a job.

M4M Queue, because I only have 1 diff in my mapset currently I'll only mod one diff of your set (so it's even)

Expert
lol fail box?
00:27:607 (27607|0,27682|2,27757|0,27832|2) - https://i.gyazo.com/ab9be07d9f00161e6bc ... bc1340.png I personally think that this would work better since it gives more of a "back and forth" feel, which is what I felt when listening to the song at this point. this was the initial pattern but was later changed for variation from nightfall difficulty
00:28:807 (28807|0,28807|1) - I'd suggest adding a fourth note here on such a hard beat. nice catch, applied
00:51:757 (51757|0,51907|3,52057|1) - I would much rather do something like this since when using both hands on simple patterns I feel it gives a better feel while playing it (could but just personal taste though) it is for vocal pitching so no change
00:55:207 (55207|1,55357|1) - Similar to my first point, I really like something like this would work better truthfully. same as above
00:56:407 (56407|1,56557|1) - ^ I won't point every instance of this (and whether you choose to add it is up to you) but you should consider each instance of it at least. ^
01:15:757 (75757|3,75757|2) - 01:16:507 (76507|2,76507|3) - Between these two points I feel basic jumptrills would be easier (and fit better) rather than a jump into a single note and back. However if being "easier" wasn't your goal here then I can understand that. my diffs are charted such that it is as hard as possible so yes your correct
01:16:507 (76507|3,76507|2,76657|0,76807|3) - I think you could change a pattern like this into this because of how the song is in the background (you have the bass sounding during that part so why not chart it, and a kick that could've been a little signified lol) though your suggestion is solid, i find the pattern fine as it is as this LN 01:16:807 (76807|3) - is not for the bass, but for the increasingly loud sound
01:20:107 (80107|2) - Maybe some way to signify it more? Some back and forth holds or an SV of some sort? I'm pretty picky when it comes to these things so it could totally be just personal preference (and if you decide to do this, consider it for any instance of the situation). i have no intentions of adding SVs in this mapset and i dont know a good way to signify this without making this part excessively hard so no change
02:44:407 (164407|3,164407|3) - You could have made more significance of the background drums imo. seems fine as it is
Personally I couldn't find anything else really (noob modder here) but I tried my best to point out problems that I felt could be fixed. Will be posting in your queue with my map.
thankie for moddie
also try to read modding queue rules more carefully next time, would've rejected your request right there

(not a fail box, I just like using it as a divider)

Yep it's my fault, didn't get much sleep the night before and I literally read your rules and apparently didn't notice you had a format. Btw I don't know if you already modded my chart but I'm changing it to another (better) chart. Editing my post to be under your format as well.

I K I

75 posts

Joined February 2016

I K I 2017-07-20T11:00:53+00:00

Mod for Mod Request
this my first mod :3 sorry for bad mod
Expert

01:17:182 - new LN ? or https://puu.sh/wOnAx/b5e9bd65b9.png
03:39:157 - new LN again ? https://puu.sh/wOnJO/af7a09e9df.png

Nightfall

00:52:057 (52057|2) - I think here is better LN
01:17:182 - add LN ? https://puu.sh/wOn5F/bd1d61eedd.jpg
01:32:557 (92557|0) - move to 2
02:15:082 (135082|1) - i thinks delete this
02:15:157 (135157|0) - why single LN ? Before that there are 2 https://puu.sh/wOnkV/b5018ffa13.png

Goodluck riu xD
btw nice song <3

riunosk

1,116 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-07-20T11:09:00+00:00

-I K I- wrote:
Mod for Mod Request
this my first mod :3 sorry for bad mod
Expert
01:17:182 - new LN ? or https://puu.sh/wOnAx/b5e9bd65b9.png that LN is already following that sound
03:39:157 - new LN again ? https://puu.sh/wOnJO/af7a09e9df.png not charting that sound
Nightfall
00:52:057 (52057|2) - I think here is better LN that note is for vocal, no reason to change to LN
01:17:182 - add LN ? https://puu.sh/wOn5F/bd1d61eedd.jpg same as in expert
01:32:557 (92557|0) - move to 2 it's placed at 1 to balance out the stress on all 4 fingers
02:15:082 (135082|1) - i thinks delete this there's clearly a sound there that i'm mapping for, which is 02:15:307 (135307|3,135382|2,135457|1,135532|0) -
02:15:157 (135157|0) - why single LN ? Before that there are 2 https://puu.sh/wOnkV/b5018ffa13.png nice catch, applied

Goodluck riu xD thanky
btw nice song <3 pp time

thank for mod

[Ping]

498 posts

Joined April 2015

[Ping] 2017-07-21T00:47:01+00:00

Owo, I forgot that you have ask me this in-game before, sorry that I didn't mod you that time
but now I'm gonna mod it XD

1|2|3|4

Rave's Normal

00:26:107 move the note on 3 to 2 for better flow
01:01:207 move the note on 2 to 3 for better flow
01:38:257 move the note on 1 to 2 for better flow

02:07:507 move the note on 1 to 2
02:07:807 add a note on 1

02:17:857 add a note on 4

Bye4Now's Hard

I just, can't mod LNs

Abrax's Insane

01:23:107 add a note
01:23:857 ^

02:13:657 add a double note
02:14:857 ^

02:50:407 - 02:51:307 suggestion https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8642693

03:10:507 add a note

Expert

01:38:407 better move note on 3 to 1

01:39:457 add a note

02:13:657 add one or two note(s)
02:14:857 ^

03:37:957 add a note

Nightfall

01:06:907 remove a note

01:18:682 add a note?
01:21:082 ^
01:27:082 ^
01:28:282 ^
01:33:082 ^
01:34:132 ^

01:34:207 should be double notes
02:07:807 ^

01:39:457 add a note (maybe on 3)

02:13:657 add a note
02:14:857 ^

Goodluck

Abraxos

855 posts

Joined October 2014

Abraxos 2017-07-21T02:35:45+00:00

TheNewBungping wrote:
Owo, I forgot that you have ask me this in-game before, sorry that I didn't mod you that time
but now I'm gonna mod it XD

1|2|3|4

Abrax's Insane
01:23:107 add a note no synth
01:23:857 ^ no

02:13:657 add a double note
02:14:857 ^ also no, not what i want to focus on

02:50:407 - 02:51:307 suggestion https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8642693 bland and plain, boring as a whole

03:10:507 add a note this one is legit

@ruinosk add a note at 03:10:507 - on 2

Ryzen_old_1

Ryzen_old_1 2017-07-21T03:13:16+00:00

Another Lie wrote:
:o another Heaven's Fall & cool pattern
[list]
Nightfall
[*]01:17:407 - add LN col 3 until 01:18:007 -
[*]02:44:857 - did i just hear same sound like double "kekk" like 02:44:407 - or i just misheard it?
[*]02:50:407 (170407|3,170407|2,170557|1,170707|2,170857|3,171007|2,171157|0,171307|2) - try this since those sounds are same https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8639345
[*]03:08:707 - missing 1/1 LN or intended?
[*]03:13:057 (193057|1) - that should be 1/1 imo (not refering to vocal)
[*]03:14:707 - missing 1/2 LN or intended?
[*]03:28:807 (208807|2,208807|0,208957|1,208957|3,209107|0,209107|2,209257|3,209257|1,209407|0,209407|2,209557|1,209557|3,209707|2,209707|0,209857|3,209857|1) - maybe this better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8639405 or reversed that ver
[*]00:15:007 - missing dub?
[*]00:17:407 - ^
Expert
[*]00:05:557 - missing "tak" or "klep" sound?
[*]00:15:007 - missing dub?
[*]00:17:407 - missing dub?
[*]00:55:207 (55207|1,55357|1) - those aren't same like 00:56:407 (56407|1,56557|1) - consider moving them
[*]01:15:757 (75757|2,75757|3,75832|1,75907|3,75907|2,75982|0,76057|3,76057|2,76132|1,76207|3,76207|2,76282|0,76357|2,76357|3,76432|1,76507|3,76507|2) - pretty heave on right hand, try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8639492 or something to balance both left & right
[*]01:29:707 - missing double "sneh"?
[*]02:21:682 (141682|3,141832|2,141982|3,142132|2,142282|3,142432|2) - what is the difference with 00:47:107 (47107|3,47107|2,47182|0,47182|1,47257|3,47257|2,47332|1,47332|0,47407|3,47407|2,47482|0,47482|1,47557|3,47557|2,47632|0,47632|1,47707|2,47707|3) - ? i mean, those singles are same sound like doubles
[*]02:42:607 - missing?
[*]02:42:757 - 02:43:057 - 02:43:357 - 02:43:657 - 02:43:807 - 02:44:107 - 02:44:257 - ^
[*]03:08:707 - missing 1/1 LN or intended?
[*]03:13:057 (193057|0) - that should be 1/1 imo (not refering to vocal)
[*]03:14:707 - missing 1/2 LN or intended?
Abrax's Insane
[*]00:05:557 - missing "tak" or "klep" sound here
[*]00:09:157 - ^
[*]00:10:357 - ^
[*]00:13:807 - ^
[*]01:17:407 - add LN for synth until 01:18:007 -
Bye4Now's Hard
[*]00:33:607 - until 00:35:857 - you sure don't wanna buffed something on this? (first part https://puu.sh/wOC73.png ) (second part https://puu.sh/wOC8r.png )
[*]00:51:307 - missing double?
[*]02:33:607 - 02:41:407 - why these 2 dub are doubled? if reviewing back, only this 2 dub is different than other dub notes
[*]02:44:407 - 02:44:707 - 02:45:157 - add 1 notes to prevent it from blank (my idea, why Hard feels like Normal?)
[*]02:45:457 - add LN until 02:46:507 - (long sound)
Rave's Normal
[*]02:02:707 - ghost (if you refer to instrument) (not ghost if you refer to vocal)
[*]02:05:707 - add 1/1 LN for spicy thing
[*]02:44:557 - 02:45:157 - feels empty here, try adding something
HP & OD
Normal: should be 7.1/7.1 since that diff is really easy peasy
Hard: 7.4/7.4 will be good enough for handle that pattern
Insane: 8.4 or 8.1/7.8 to forgive those LN pattern
Expert: 8.8/8.4 give players some mercy please
Nightfall: 9.1/9.1 to balance the Normal & go wild on that last diff
Abrax's Insane <3 69/10 Nice pattern combine (vocal & instrument)

riunosk

1,116 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-07-21T08:10:26+00:00

TheNewBungping wrote:
Owo, I forgot that you have ask me this in-game before, sorry that I didn't mod you that time
but now I'm gonna mod it XD

1|2|3|4
Expert (changed to Extra after mod)
01:38:407 better move note on 3 to 1 follows vocal pitch

01:39:457 add a note what for? im not charting this sound

02:13:657 add one or two note(s) not charting this sound here
02:14:857 ^ ^

03:37:957 add a note what for? no sound here

Nightfall
01:06:907 remove a note the notes are fine, double is for kick while LN follows synth sound

01:18:682 add a note? not hearing anything here
01:21:082 ^ ^
01:27:082 ^ ^
01:28:282 ^ ^
01:33:082 ^ ^
01:34:132 ^ ^

01:34:207 should be double notes too inaudible to be represented by double
02:07:807 ^ what for? no extra sound here

01:39:457 add a note (maybe on 3) not hearing anything here

02:13:657 add a note same reason as extra (expert)
02:14:857 ^ ^

Goodluck tenk

thenk fhor mhod

Ryzen wrote:
Another Lie wrote:
:o another Heaven's Fall & cool pattern
[list]
Nightfall
[*]01:17:407 - add LN col 3 until 01:18:007 - the LN on 4 is already interpreting that sound
[*]02:44:857 - did i just hear same sound like double "kekk" like 02:44:407 - or i just misheard it? you most likely misheard it
[*]02:50:407 (170407|3,170407|2,170557|1,170707|2,170857|3,171007|2,171157|0,171307|2) - try this since those sounds are same https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8639345 applied with slight change
[*]03:08:707 - missing 1/1 LN or intended? not charting this sound
[*]03:13:057 (193057|1) - that should be 1/1 imo (not refering to vocal) LNs here are only following vocal
[*]03:14:707 - missing 1/2 LN or intended? same as before
[*]03:28:807 (208807|2,208807|0,208957|1,208957|3,209107|0,209107|2,209257|3,209257|1,209407|0,209407|2,209557|1,209557|3,209707|2,209707|0,209857|3,209857|1) - maybe this better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8639405 or reversed that ver intended as it is
[*]00:15:007 - missing dub? nop
[*]00:17:407 - ^ ^
sudden timestamp jump lole
Expert
[*]00:05:557 - missing "tak" or "klep" sound? uh no?
[*]00:15:007 - missing dub? same as nightfall
[*]00:17:407 - missing dub? ^
[*]00:55:207 (55207|1,55357|1) - those aren't same like 00:56:407 (56407|1,56557|1) - consider moving them im very certain they are the same
[*]01:15:757 (75757|2,75757|3,75832|1,75907|3,75907|2,75982|0,76057|3,76057|2,76132|1,76207|3,76207|2,76282|0,76357|2,76357|3,76432|1,76507|3,76507|2) - pretty heave on right hand, try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8639492 or something to balance both left & right fully intended
[*]01:29:707 - missing double "sneh"? nop
[*]02:21:682 (141682|3,141832|2,141982|3,142132|2,142282|3,142432|2) - what is the difference with 00:47:107 (47107|3,47107|2,47182|0,47182|1,47257|3,47257|2,47332|1,47332|0,47407|3,47407|2,47482|0,47482|1,47557|3,47557|2,47632|0,47632|1,47707|2,47707|3) - ? i mean, those singles are same sound like doubles nice catch, rectified
[*]02:42:607 - missing? not missing
[*]02:42:757 - 02:43:057 - 02:43:357 - 02:43:657 - 02:43:807 - 02:44:107 - 02:44:257 - ^ not charting these sounds in this difficulty
[*]03:08:707 - missing 1/1 LN or intended? same as nightfall
[*]03:13:057 (193057|0) - that should be 1/1 imo (not refering to vocal) ^
[*]03:14:707 - missing 1/2 LN or intended? ^
HP & OD
Normal: should be 7.1/7.1 since that diff is really easy peasy 6.9 meme
Hard: 7.4/7.4 will be good enough for handle that pattern leaving it to bfn
Insane: 8.4 or 8.1/7.8 to forgive those LN pattern leaving it to abrax
Expert: 8.8/8.4 give players some mercy please no!
Nightfall: 9.1/9.1 to balance the Normal & go wild on that last diff buffed hp to 9.3 to further discourage mash
Abrax's Insane <3 69/10 Nice pattern combine (vocal & instrument)

thunk fur mud

Abraxos

855 posts

Joined October 2014

Abraxos 2017-07-21T08:45:28+00:00

Ryzen wrote:
Another Lie wrote:
Abrax's Insane
[*]00:05:557 - missing "tak" or "klep" sound here
[*]00:09:157 - ^
[*]00:10:357 - ^ everything above considered, applied accordingly
[*]00:13:807 - ^ doesnt have snare tho
[*]01:17:407 - add LN for synth until 01:18:007 - not what i was going for, the music itself should already give enough indication that its a swoosh into the next section which i dont want to emphasize any further than what i have (edited the part according to what i mentioned though)

Abrax's Insane <3 69/10 Nice pattern combine (vocal & instrument) thanks dude

OD changed to 7.9
update

AlisceaSparku

704 posts

Joined August 2013

AlisceaSparku 2017-07-21T09:22:40+00:00

took a quick check in one specific difficulty because it intrigued me l0l
short mod though disregard the reference x_x forgot to turn it off

no kds

[Bye4Now's Hard]

even though its a LN map, I would make HP to 7.4 to -prevent smashing LNs-
the OD is forgiving enough for me imo.

00:08:557 - https://puu.sh/wPdrI/63b66be70c.png] there's a sound here and maybe you'd like this one more? you can also extend 00:04:207 (4207|0) - to the 3/4 line if you like.

01:16:807 (76807|1) - not slider? it seems like a very important spot for a slider to me

02:22:207 (142207|0) - cutting it to 02:22:507 - would give way for a double in 02:22:807 - , and occupying 3 columns for something that's so low in pitch personally feels weird to play lol.

02:53:107 - https://puu.sh/wPdhC/db8d4144d5.png a suggestion. It's purpose is to make the part at 02:53:707 - less strainy as well as for hand balance and for pitch relevancy.

03:06:307 - 03:15:007 - how about make it something like https://puu.sh/wPe9r/9c2c781b4e.png. there's a 1/1 sound and to have more LNs

03:10:357 (190357|0) - not sure whats this for, or maybe the drum sounds overwhelms my hearing x.x i'd focus on the drums for this part though

might fully mod this (soon)

wow first mod after a few months
hope it helps :3

Umo-

1,443 posts

Joined April 2016

Umo- 2017-07-21T13:59:56+00:00

i thought Abraxos quit lol
NM req from imtdb1's modding queue
1|2|3|4
Played this map before, nice map
sorry if this mod is going to suck
Meybe add a Normal difficulty since you have a space between easy and hard?

B4N Hard

since this is a LN difficulty why not make this notes 00:28:807 (28807|0,29107|3,29407|0,29707|3) - 1/4 LNs? The short ones?
00:39:607 - add LN here for vocals
01:13:507 (73507|3) - meybe move that in another column so its not in the same column as the previous note?
01:14:107 (74107|1) - move to 3
01:16:057 (76057|0,76207|0) - I think those would look nicer if they are in 2nd column
01:16:807 - make this double because of crash sound or whatever it is
01:52:807 - LN for vocals
02:37:057 (157057|2) - meybe move that note to another column so its not stacked with 02:37:207 (157207|2,157507|2) -
02:40:807 - add a note?
03:24:907 - I dont think double is needed here
nice diff

Abrax's Insane

00:00:007 (7|2,157|2,307|2) - I dont see the point of jackhammer here, every note sounds diffrend there
00:12:007 - missing double? You had double at 00:10:807 -
00:15:607 - ^
00:18:007 - meybe add double here because vocals start and that place + snare sound
00:32:107 - I dont see why this is a double and other notes are not, they are all same sound
00:33:607 - nice part
01:16:807 (76807|0) - snap to 1/4? I think its better as 1/4 snap
01:42:457 (102457|1,102457|0,102532|3,102532|2) - I think you dont need doubles there, instead place a double at 01:42:607 -
01:44:857 - ^
02:44:407 - double?
02:47:107 (167107|3) - this LN seems out of place

Expert

btw I cant find much here
00:43:207 - meybe make this triple and move 00:43:282 (43282|3) - to 3
00:45:007 (45007|2,45007|3,45082|1,45157|2,45157|3,45232|0,45307|3,45307|2,45382|1,45457|3,45457|2,45532|0,45607|3,45607|2,45682|0) - meybe ctrl+H those so that pattern is not repetitve and so it could be more fun to play
01:42:307 - btw from this part I think that you can add triples (if you want) at 00:38:407 -

nice hitsound names
Good Luck!

ByeForNow

283 posts

Joined October 2015

ByeForNow 2017-07-21T14:14:44+00:00

DDMythical wrote:
1 / 2 / 3 / 4
HP OD this low is justifiable because LNs lol
00:40:807 (40807|2,41407|2) - Struggling to hear any justification for the LNs here. You could say it's mapping to vocal/ drums but 1/1 length for simple rhythm to follow. It's kinda intended for a smoother entry to LN 00:42:007 - patterns
Unfinished? No, read map description

AlisceaSparku wrote:
took a quick check in one specific difficulty because it intrigued me l0l : )
short mod though disregard the reference x_x forgot to turn it off

no kds

[Bye4Now's Hard]
even though its a LN map, I would make HP to 7.4 to -prevent smashing LNs- sure
the OD is forgiving enough for me imo. alrightly

00:08:557 - https://puu.sh/wPdrI/63b66be70c.png] there's a sound here and maybe you'd like this one more? you can also extend 00:04:207 (4207|0) - to the 3/4 line if you like. nice catch! + why not? xd

01:16:807 (76807|1) - not slider? it seems like a very important spot for a slider to me True

02:22:207 (142207|0) - cutting it to 02:22:507 - would give way for a double in 02:22:807 - , and occupying 3 columns for something that's so low in pitch personally feels weird to play lol. should be fine now

02:53:107 - https://puu.sh/wPdhC/db8d4144d5.png a suggestion. It's purpose is to make the part at 02:53:707 - less strainy as well as for hand balance and for pitch relevancy. nice.

03:06:307 - 03:15:007 - how about make it something like https://puu.sh/wPe9r/9c2c781b4e.png. there's a 1/1 sound and to have more LNs > : ) <- This is an evil look

03:10:357 (190357|0) - not sure whats this for, or maybe the drum sounds overwhelms my hearing x.x i'd focus on the drums for this part though There is another drum sound at that part, just quite soft

might fully mod this (soon) ww

wow first mod after a few months
hope it helps :3

edit: I missed a mod lol, too tired @_@

imtdb1 wrote:
B4N Hard
since this is a LN difficulty why not make this notes 00:28:807 (28807|0,29107|3,29407|0,29707|3) - 1/4 LNs? The short ones? sure, why not
00:39:607 - add LN here for vocals On that section, I'll focus on drum instruments during that section, so 01:18:007 - will be more memorable
01:13:507 (73507|3) - meybe move that in another column so its not in the same column as the previous note? Agree
01:14:107 (74107|1) - move to 3 sure thing
01:16:057 (76057|0,76207|0) - I think those would look nicer if they are in 2nd column True but it'll look more cramped to the right side
01:16:807 - make this double because of crash sound or whatever it is Alright
01:52:807 - LN for vocals 01:52:507 (112507|3) - is enough for the vocal, keeping things simple friendly before the harder LNs behind : )
02:37:057 (157057|2) - meybe move that note to another column so its not stacked with 02:37:207 (157207|2,157507|2) - Anchor is intended for emphaising drum sound on first beat after 2 4/4 meter
02:40:807 - add a note? Sorry no, for consistency
03:24:907 - I dont think double is needed here It's for a more epic ending to the hand 03:25:207 (205207|1,205207|3,205207|2) -
nice diff Thank you! Hope you enjoyed it

Thanks for mod guys, I present to you a bigger bowl of ramen! :O

Applied mod and buffed the ending
reapply hitsounds please~

update v2 after edit

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Last edited by ByeForNow 2017-07-21T14:49:52+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Raveille

787 posts

Joined February 2012

Raveille 2017-07-21T14:25:32+00:00

applied all mods

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Title:Heaven's Fall
TitleUnicode:Heaven's Fall
Artist:Helblinde
ArtistUnicode:Helblinde
Creator:riunosk
Version:Rave's Easy
Source:アルドノア・ゼロ
Tags:raveille byefornow abraxos aldnoah.zero aldnoah zero opening kajiura yuki
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Abraxos

855 posts

Joined October 2014

Abraxos 2017-07-21T14:38:24+00:00

imtdb1 wrote:
i thought Abraxos quit lol
NM req from imtdb1's modding queue
1|2|3|4

Abrax's Insane
00:00:007 (7|2,157|2,307|2) - I dont see the point of jackhammer here, every note sounds different there wub thing in the background
00:12:007 - missing double? You had double at 00:10:807 - previous one isnt supposed to be doubled
00:15:607 - ^ weee
00:18:007 - meybe add double here because vocals start and that place + snare sound if you emphasize everything nothing is emphasized; also the drum there is a tom
00:32:107 - I dont see why this is a double and other notes are not, they are all same sound synth in the music; if you played the chart you would know what its for because 00:30:007 (30007|3,30307|2,30607|1) - tells you everything you need
00:33:607 - nice part thx
01:16:807 (76807|0) - snap to 1/4? I think its better as 1/4 snap 1/4 too fat, 1/6 is nice enough to be a staccato note
01:42:457 (102457|1,102457|0,102532|3,102532|2) - I think you dont need doubles there, instead place a double at 01:42:607 - was following the vocals tho :thinknign:
01:44:857 - ^
02:44:407 - double? no doubles here, not my intention
02:47:107 (167107|3) - this LN seems out of place two things; the vocal on 02:47:107 - and the staccato violin pull at 02:47:182 - having it be 1/4 notes only is overkill imo so i opted for 1/4 LNs only

Good Luck!

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riunosk

1,116 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-07-22T00:16:51+00:00

imtdb1 wrote:
i thought Abraxos quit lol
NM req from imtdb1's modding queue
1|2|3|4
Played this map before, nice map
sorry if this mod is going to suck
Meybe add a Normal difficulty since you have a space between easy and hard?
Expert
btw I cant find much here wows
00:43:207 - meybe make this triple and move 00:43:282 (43282|3) - to 3 i probably already did this in selfmod
00:45:007 (45007|2,45007|3,45082|1,45157|2,45157|3,45232|0,45307|3,45307|2,45382|1,45457|3,45457|2,45532|0,45607|3,45607|2,45682|0) - meybe ctrl+H those so that pattern is not repetitve and so it could be more fun to play interesting, applied
01:42:307 - btw from this part I think that you can add triples (if you want) at 00:38:407 - already did via selfmod
nice hitsound names i got bored of normal hitsound names
Good Luck!

thank fo mot

Couil

347 posts

Joined August 2015

Couil 2017-07-22T01:58:25+00:00

sup, m4m req from my modding queue

Nightfall

Hitsounding:

Okey first of all, i believe that your hitsounds are all perfectly rankable, because i looked through some other ranked maps and they had HS similar to yours. But i would still like to make some suggestions.

I don't know if you've added a hitsound for soft-hitnormal because i heard my skin's hitnormal sound. If you haven't you should probably add one, so everyone gets the same experience as you want them to get.

Throughout the map you use double and triple hitsounds for jumps and hands which i think is a bit off putting. This is because you remove the hitnormal sound from each jump/hand which makes it sound segregated. e.g: 00:38:407 - 00:51:607 this section sounds like a bunch of triplets instead of a stream. I would recommend you lower it down to one/two HS per each hand/jump so there's at least 1 soft-normalhit (to make it sound more consistent).

If you choose to do the previous one; you might need to increase/decrase some of the sounds to make them have the same levels of sound. Most of the hitsounds should be in the correct spot so you only need to make it one/two isntead of two/three. Some sections where this is really apparent: 00:38:407 - 00:55:207 + 01:42:007 - 02:01:207 + 02:51:607 - 03:05:407 + 03:15:607 - 03:25:207 + 03:30:007 - 04:08:407
All of these might sound better with a good hitnormal, but with my hitnormal it sounds really wierd.

00:10:207 (10207|3,10282|2) - These sound a bit wierd, maybe remove the 2nd one or both of them?
00:15:007 (15007|0,15082|1) - Same here
00:23:407 (23407|1,23482|2) - ^
00:47:107 (47107|2,47107|3,47182|1,47182|0,47257|3,47257|2) - Maybe only one hs on these jumps to make it different from 00:47:407 (47407|3,47407|0,47482|1,47482|2,47557|3,47557|0,47632|1,47632|2,47707|3,47707|0) ?
01:37:207 - 01:39:157 Symbals sounds wierd here, maybe find a different sound for the crashes or just remove them completly?
02:30:757 (150757|0,150832|1,150907|0,150982|1,151057|0) - Claps sound wierd here as well, new sound?
02:30:757 (150757|0,151057|0) - Shouldn't be a "clap" HS here.
02:34:057 (154057|1) - No clap sound here

Patterning:

02:07:207 (127207|0,127207|3,127207|2,127507|3,127507|0,127507|2) - Different sounds but same pattern? Could change if you want to make the sounds feel different.
02:34:057 (154057|1) - You didn't map this note in the other instances further ahead. Intetional?
03:29:407 (209407|0,209407|2,209557|1,209557|3,209707|0,209707|2,209857|3,209857|1) - Changes in pitch, could change pattern.

Expert

Hitsounding:

Same as Nightfall, could make the double/triple HS to single/double HS.

Patterning:

00:37:957 (37957|0) - Why is this snapped diffrently form the Nightfall diff. Same sound should probably be snapped the same way. You should probably make a change in one of the diffs (I think either or works fine) but since you're snapping the 2nd note the same way as you did in Nightfall you might want to change the note in Expert.
02:35:632 (155632|2) - Why are you mapping this here but not in previous sections with the same sound?

Abrax's Insane

Hitsounding:

As previous diffs states, nothing wrong with the HS, everything seems to be justified, though i do think it would be better if you had a consistent string of hitnormals during streams/consistent sections.

Pattering:

02:54:307 (174307|2,174307|3,174382|1,174457|2,174457|3,174532|0,174607|2,174607|1,174682|3,174757|0,174757|1,174832|2,174907|1,174907|0,174982|3,175057|1) - This seemed a bit wierd. Guessing you're mapping the vocals as you did in a section before this? In that case i think you missed a jump here: 02:55:057 (175057|1) (since there's a distinct vocal sound).
03:04:132 (184132|2,184132|3) - Shouldn't the jump be on the note before 03:04:057 ? or here 03:04:207 ? Both sounds like they should have a jump but you put it between them. It probably have some meaning behind it that i can't see right now.

Bye4now's Hard

First of all, i love this kind of patterning on low sr maps, wish more maps used this kind of patterning. I would actually not mind playing them if they were patterned like this.

Hitsounding:

Don't think there's much to comment on here tbh.

Patterning:

01:15:757 (75757|3,75907|2,76057|0,76207|0,76357|2,76507|3) - This is kinda awkward, im guessing that its intentional since 01:16:057 (76057|0,76207|0) becomes a jack. If not you migh wanna change it up a bit.
02:17:257 - Why no LN here? Same sound as before.
02:32:407 - Maybe another note here to emphisize the symbals?
02:51:457 (171457|1) - Maybe make it not a jack since its got a diffrent pitch from the previous notes? Just a suggestion.

Couldn't find anything on Rave's Normal.

Gonna shoot some stars since it was a kinda short mod

hope some of my points are of use ; )

riunosk

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Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-07-22T14:54:03+00:00

Couil wrote:
sup, m4m req from my modding queue

Nightfall
Hitsounding:

Okey first of all, i believe that your hitsounds are all perfectly rankable, because i looked through some other ranked maps and they had HS similar to yours. But i would still like to make some suggestions. cool

I don't know if you've added a hitsound for soft-hitnormal because i heard my skin's hitnormal sound. If you haven't you should probably add one, so everyone gets the same experience as you want them to get. no hs for soft-hitnormal, but may add one soon

Throughout the map you use double and triple hitsounds for jumps and hands which i think is a bit off putting. This is because you remove the hitnormal sound from each jump/hand which makes it sound segregated. e.g: 00:38:407 - 00:51:607 this section sounds like a bunch of triplets instead of a stream. I would recommend you lower it down to one/two HS per each hand/jump so there's at least 1 soft-normalhit (to make it sound more consistent). its for stronger emphasis on kicks and snares, considering the track's original kick snare sounds are pretty loud

If you choose to do the previous one; you might need to increase/decrase some of the sounds to make them have the same levels of sound. Most of the hitsounds should be in the correct spot so you only need to make it one/two isntead of two/three. Some sections where this is really apparent: 00:38:407 - 00:55:207 + 01:42:007 - 02:01:207 + 02:51:607 - 03:05:407 + 03:15:607 - 03:25:207 + 03:30:007 - 04:08:407
All of these might sound better with a good hitnormal, but with my hitnormal it sounds really wierd. ^

00:10:207 (10207|3,10282|2) - These sound a bit wierd, maybe remove the 2nd one or both of them? they seem fine to me
00:15:007 (15007|0,15082|1) - Same here [^/b]
00:23:407 (23407|1,23482|2) - ^ [b]^
00:47:107 (47107|2,47107|3,47182|1,47182|0,47257|3,47257|2) - Maybe only one hs on these jumps to make it different from 00:47:407 (47407|3,47407|0,47482|1,47482|2,47557|3,47557|0,47632|1,47632|2,47707|3,47707|0) ? emphasis on the kicks so keeping this
01:37:207 - 01:39:157 Symbals sounds wierd here, maybe find a different sound for the crashes or just remove them completly? they are actually pretty accurate to the original cymbals
02:30:757 (150757|0,150832|1,150907|0,150982|1,151057|0) - Claps sound wierd here as well, new sound? not really, they're ok
02:30:757 (150757|0,151057|0) - Shouldn't be a "clap" HS here. follows the sound just fine
02:34:057 (154057|1) - No clap sound here ^

Patterning:

02:07:207 (127207|0,127207|3,127207|2,127507|3,127507|0,127507|2) - Different sounds but same pattern? Could change if you want to make the sounds feel different. fixed a slight error, but charting pattern is a 1/2 single note stack after every snare
02:34:057 (154057|1) - You didn't map this note in the other instances further ahead. Intetional? only one section has a missing note, applied
03:29:407 (209407|0,209407|2,209557|1,209557|3,209707|0,209707|2,209857|3,209857|1) - Changes in pitch, could change pattern. its a general pitch ascend so this patterning is fine

Expert
Hitsounding:

Same as Nightfall, could make the double/triple HS to single/double HS. ^

Patterning:

00:37:957 (37957|0) - Why is this snapped diffrently form the Nightfall diff. Same sound should probably be snapped the same way. You should probably make a change in one of the diffs (I think either or works fine) but since you're snapping the 2nd note the same way as you did in Nightfall you might want to change the note in Expert. intended since changing the snap here with barely any supporting notes would look and feel pretty weird
02:35:632 (155632|2) - Why are you mapping this here but not in previous sections with the same sound? that was actually an unintended note lols

Couldn't find anything on Rave's Normal. sexy

Gonna shoot some stars since it was a kinda short mod feed me stars

hope some of my points are of use ; ) fatten up my mapset

thank for mod
i somehow found a ninja minijack that nobody spotted o wo

Last edited by riunosk 2017-07-23T04:50:41+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

ByeForNow

283 posts

Joined October 2015

ByeForNow 2017-07-22T15:09:58+00:00

Couil wrote:
sup, m4m req from my modding queue
Bye4now's Hard
First of all, i love this kind of patterning on low sr maps, wish more maps used this kind of patterning. I would actually not mind playing them if they were patterned like this. I'm glad you love it! I had fun mapping it too~

Hitsounding:

Don't think there's much to comment on here tbh. w

Patterning:

01:15:757 (75757|3,75907|2,76057|0,76207|0,76357|2,76507|3) - This is kinda awkward, im guessing that its intentional since 01:16:057 (76057|0,76207|0) becomes a jack. If not you migh wanna change it up a bit. It is intended as a shield pattern, I'd like to keep it if possible since you don't see shield patterns often in 4k. Playability wise, I'll take note of that part. However, keep for now because it personally felt fine to me. If bn/more people mentions about it, I'll change it
02:17:257 - Why no LN here? Same sound as before. Nice catch!
02:32:407 - Maybe another note here to emphisize the symbals? Oo sure
02:51:457 (171457|1) - Maybe make it not a jack since its got a diffrent pitch from the previous notes? Just a suggestion. ya

Thanks for the mod~ It was helpful~~

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Abraxos

855 posts

Joined October 2014

Abraxos 2017-07-23T04:09:48+00:00

Couil wrote:
sup, m4m req from my modding queue

Abrax's Insane
Pattering:

02:54:307 (174307|2,174307|3,174382|1,174457|2,174457|3,174532|0,174607|2,174607|1,174682|3,174757|0,174757|1,174832|2,174907|1,174907|0,174982|3,175057|1) - This seemed a bit wierd. Guessing you're mapping the vocals as you did in a section before this? In that case i think you missed a jump here: 02:55:057 (175057|1) (since there's a distinct vocal sound). thought about this before, concluded that i shouldnt really put anything there because i feel like the pattering is already dense enough to leave the player with some taste in their mouth - which is kinda like what that echoey sound is anw
03:04:132 (184132|2,184132|3) - Shouldn't the jump be on the note before 03:04:057 ? or here 03:04:207 ? Both sounds like they should have a jump but you put it between them. It probably have some meaning behind it that i can't see right now. edited portion, good catch

here

riunosk

1,116 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-07-23T04:51:10+00:00

added a soft-hitnormal.wav

redl for it

Mykaterasu

584 posts

Joined March 2014

Mykaterasu 2017-08-01T14:49:30+00:00

M4M it is! From over here.

1 / 2 / 3 / 4

Extra

00:05:407 (5407|2,5482|3,5557|0,5632|1,5707|3,5782|2,5857|0,5932|1) - It might be better to distinguish these objects separately with a different pattern to the rest of this section. Something like 4 2 3 1 works fairly well in bringing out the filter in these parts. This could be applied to other parts in the map too e.g. 02:05:407 - here.
00:44:857 (44857|0,44857|3) - This 1+4 double feels a little too low profile, like it's not really there. Perhaps if you shuffled the singles so that 1's become 2's (and vice versa), 3's become 4's (and vice versa) you could make this double a more visually impactful 2+3 double.
00:51:007 (51007|3,51007|0,51307|0,51307|3) - These don't have to share the same positions do they? The pattern around these two doubles feels a bit awkward to play.
00:57:607 - How about giving the syncopated bass some love here by making objects on the red lines 1/2 LNs? It makes some great contrast if you don't put them in every 4th bar in this manner. The outro can have this pattern too.
01:28:357 (88357|3,88357|0,88507|1,88507|3) - Seems a bit inconsistent to use this for kick + clap when you've used 01:27:157 (87157|2,87157|0,87307|1,87307|3) - this type of pattern for that the past couple of times.
01:42:007 - This section is way more comfortable than 00:38:407 - this one. This section just flows way better and is fundamentally more balanced than when you were using just doubles previously. I would take a look at that first section and try to optimise it in the same way that this one is optimised, because this section is really good.
My one minor gripe in this section is that 01:56:257 (116257|2,116332|1,116407|3,116407|0,116482|1,116557|3,116632|2,116707|3,116707|0,116707|1,116782|2) - this part doesn't particularly flow well in the right hand for me. The best explanation I can give is that 01:56:332 (116332|1,116407|3,116482|1,116557|3) - this pattern is forming on the off-beat but the right is taking the on-beat as well as a 3-note anchor here. It feels a tad awkward for the finger on the 4th lane. This little section might need a small rejig to sort this out.
03:10:207 (190207|0,190282|1) - I'd swap the lanes of these two since it results in a more disjointed pattern that balances better into the next LN.
03:17:407 (197407|1,197557|1,197707|1,197857|1,198082|1,198232|1,198382|1) - This lane is way too active here and it causes some unenjoyable left-sided gameplay. It also doesn't help that there's another 4 - anchor in lane 3 03:18:157 (198157|2,198307|2,198457|2,198607|2) - right after it. You've done a great job avoiding 4-note anchors up until now, it would be nice to see that all the way through the map.

Nightfall

Note that a few of the things talked about in Extra show up here too. I won't explain them, I'll just leave a timestamp saying "Extra"

00:05:407 (5407|0,5482|1,5557|3,5632|2,5707|1,5782|0,5857|2,5932|3) - Extra
01:48:307 (108307|0,108457|0,108607|0,108757|0,108907|0,109057|0,109207|0,109357|0,109507|0,109657|0,109807|0,109957|0,110107|0,110257|0,110407|0,110557|0,110707|0,110857|0,111007|0) - woah... 19 anchors. Theoretically with this pattern you should never have anchors greater than 9 in an infinite optimal arrangement in this chorus and all similar. Give all the lanes with 10 or more a good rejig.
02:03:757 (123757|2,124057|0,124357|2) - Extra

Really nice mapset you got going.

akuma123

308 posts

Joined June 2011

akuma123 2017-08-01T22:49:27+00:00

❤ Team Love Deluxe Mania Queue ❤

Hi, this is the M4M mod that you asked for in our queue. Since the song is too long and i dont have a lot of time this week i will only mod 1 diff, sorry

. With nothing more to say, let's start with this

Columns = (1/2/3/4)

Nightfall

The diff in general is pretty good to be honest, really fun, the handstreams could have some long anchors but it doesnt feel bad at all.
Ok. So lets star first with the intro:
00:03:907 - Why this double is not on the same columns as 00:03:607, you have done that with 00:02:407 and 00:02:707 for example.
00:05:407 - 00:06:307 - That section sounds so different from the rest. It will be better to emphasize that section with a different type of pattern, i think there are 2 options for this section, one is using trills and the other is to make a strem that alternate hands with each note, for example 4231 or 4132 or 3241,etc, it gives you a similar sensation as when you are using trills, choose the one that you like more xD.
00:13:807 - 00:15:007 - Same.
00:19:207 - 00:21:607 - Same.

Then the first jumpstream, i dont think that this section need the kiai just because it have a jumpstream, this section is not that "hype" enough (and even it could be underwhelming if you compare it to the other 2 kiais on the song), to me this section is more like a 2nd intro of the song.
Apart from that this section is pretty well made, the hand balance is fine and the pitch is well representated on the few melodical sections. But i think there is a little mistake at the end:
00:56:707 - Why is this just a single LN when at 00:55:507 the same sound has 2 LNs. You should add a LN to (2) and extend the LN on (3) to 00:57:307.

Now the next section:
00:57:607 - 01:16:507 - I dont know why you didnt make all that section a JS, maybe for variety, maybe you want to put some more LNs on the map, but i think that if you are making a stamina map then you should keep that idea. I will understand if the song suddenly stops using fast sounds to put streams to, but the sound is there. Anyways if you want to keep your current patterns then is fine.
Now, if you choose to keep that section then, some of the little streams that you put seems to be a little random. For example:
00:59:707 - I am asumming that you are putting the notes for the synthesizer, but then there is a lot more places where you also need yo put those notes:
00:57:907 - 00:58:507 - I can clearly hear that same sound, so why it doesnt have any stream over there?
01:01:357 - 01:02:107 - The same synthesizer but with lower pitch, it still needs the stream.
01:07:507 - The stream should start at 01:07:357.
01:09:007 - 01:09:607 - That should be a stream.
01:12:007 - 01:12:307 - Stream.

Now the First Handstream of the map:
01:41:407 - That burst is really hard to press to be honest, i can already see a lot of people just missing in that section while having great acc during the entire map xD
First i dont know if is a good idea to have the jump at 01:41:707, second, move the note on 01:41:857 to (1) and the note on 01:41:894 to (2), the burst should not change direction since the sound is continuos, the only change of direction on the stream should be at 01:41:707, and your burst does it at 01:41:594 so i really recommend you to re arrange that burst.
Also, is really necessary to end your burst with a triple? The end of your burst is really hard to press, with a minijack and also a minitrill at the right hand and then immediately the handstream. i think that only section will cost the FC to the mayority of players xD.
The rest of the handstream is fine, it doesnt feel uncomfortable, pretty well made.

Next the LN section:
02:22:807 - I really like the patterns on this section, and the streams are consistent so is good

.
Maybe you could move all the long notes at 02:33:607 from (3) to (1) since the pitch is decreasing, also i think that these LNs have the same pitch as the ones at 02:34:807 so having all them on the same column (1) will be good.

And finally some extra things:
02:51:007 - Move that LN to (2) because of the pitch.
03:28:807 - I dont think that a trill is better pattern for that section because it sounds like the sound is increasing his pitch, so maybe re arrange that section will be better.
02:05:407 - If you change the type of pattern used at 00:05:407 i suggest you to use that same pattern on this section and similars, it will make your map to look more consistent.
03:57:607 - Same.

Even with the section that i dont like, i think this is the best diff that i get requested to mod on my queue, congratulations

Well sir, the map is really well made so i decided that this will be the first map requested on my queue that i will give a star

, congratulations

Hope this get ranked soon, good luck

riunosk

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riunosk 2017-08-02T09:36:40+00:00

Mykaterasu wrote:
M4M it is! From over here.

1 / 2 / 3 / 4

Extra
00:05:407 (5407|2,5482|3,5557|0,5632|1,5707|3,5782|2,5857|0,5932|1) - It might be better to distinguish these objects separately with a different pattern to the rest of this section. Something like 4 2 3 1 works fairly well in bringing out the filter in these parts. This could be applied to other parts in the map too e.g. 02:05:407 - here. its charted for the best playability possible while retaining some form of variety
00:44:857 (44857|0,44857|3) - This 1+4 double feels a little too low profile, like it's not really there. Perhaps if you shuffled the singles so that 1's become 2's (and vice versa), 3's become 4's (and vice versa) you could make this double a more visually impactful 2+3 double. very much intended as it is to allow for a smooth transition
00:51:007 (51007|3,51007|0,51307|0,51307|3) - These don't have to share the same positions do they? The pattern around these two doubles feels a bit awkward to play. it's to make way for 00:51:382 (51382|1,51457|2,51532|1,51607|2) - , but moved a note elsewhere for variety and smoothness
00:57:607 - How about giving the syncopated bass some love here by making objects on the red lines 1/2 LNs? It makes some great contrast if you don't put them in every 4th bar in this manner. The outro can have this pattern too. not really my intention here but good idea
01:28:357 (88357|3,88357|0,88507|1,88507|3) - Seems a bit inconsistent to use this for kick + clap when you've used 01:27:157 (87157|2,87157|0,87307|1,87307|3) - this type of pattern for that the past couple of times. nice one, couldn't see this before, fixed
01:42:007 - This section is way more comfortable than 00:38:407 - this one. This section just flows way better and is fundamentally more balanced than when you were using just doubles previously. I would take a look at that first section and try to optimise it in the same way that this one is optimised, because this section is really good. intended for variety for the streams
My one minor gripe in this section is that 01:56:257 (116257|2,116332|1,116407|3,116407|0,116482|1,116557|3,116632|2,116707|3,116707|0,116707|1,116782|2) - this part doesn't particularly flow well in the right hand for me. The best explanation I can give is that 01:56:332 (116332|1,116407|3,116482|1,116557|3) - this pattern is forming on the off-beat but the right is taking the on-beat as well as a 3-note anchor here. It feels a tad awkward for the finger on the 4th lane. This little section might need a small rejig to sort this out. rearranged some notes, should be better now
03:10:207 (190207|0,190282|1) - I'd swap the lanes of these two since it results in a more disjointed pattern that balances better into the next LN. good point, applied
03:17:407 (197407|1,197557|1,197707|1,197857|1,198082|1,198232|1,198382|1) - This lane is way too active here and it causes some unenjoyable left-sided gameplay. It also doesn't help that there's another 4 - anchor in lane 3 03:18:157 (198157|2,198307|2,198457|2,198607|2) - right after it. You've done a great job avoiding 4-note anchors up until now, it would be nice to see that all the way through the map. removed all anchors

Nightfall
Note that a few of the things talked about in Extra show up here too. I won't explain them, I'll just leave a timestamp saying "Extra"
00:05:407 (5407|0,5482|1,5557|3,5632|2,5707|1,5782|0,5857|2,5932|3) - Extra thats a different stream pattern compared to others so no change here
01:48:307 (108307|0,108457|0,108607|0,108757|0,108907|0,109057|0,109207|0,109357|0,109507|0,109657|0,109807|0,109957|0,110107|0,110257|0,110407|0,110557|0,110707|0,110857|0,111007|0) - woah... 19 anchors. Theoretically with this pattern you should never have anchors greater than 9 in an infinite optimal arrangement in this chorus and all similar. Give all the lanes with 10 or more a good rejig. gotta redo sum streems
02:03:757 (123757|2,124057|0,124357|2) - Extra same as before

Really nice mapset you got going. yay

thanko foro moddo

riunosk

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riunosk 2017-08-02T10:02:59+00:00

akuma123 wrote:
❤ Team Love Deluxe Mania Queue ❤

Hi, this is the M4M mod that you asked for in our queue. Since the song is too long and i dont have a lot of time this week i will only mod 1 diff, sorry . With nothing more to say, let's start with this

Columns = (1/2/3/4)

Nightfall
The diff in general is pretty good to be honest, really fun, the handstreams could have some long anchors but it doesnt feel bad at all.
Ok. So lets star first with the intro:
00:03:907 - Why this double is not on the same columns as 00:03:607, you have done that with 00:02:407 and 00:02:707 for example. oops, fixed
00:05:407 - 00:06:307 - That section sounds so different from the rest. It will be better to emphasize that section with a different type of pattern, i think there are 2 options for this section, one is using trills and the other is to make a strem that alternate hands with each note, for example 4231 or 4132 or 3241,etc, it gives you a similar sensation as when you are using trills, choose the one that you like more xD. really don't like 4231 patterns and i think the pattern is fine as it is considering its a half stair then followed by a opposite stair then finished the incomplete stair
00:13:807 - 00:15:007 - Same. no intention of changing this since i dont like unnecessary difficulty
00:19:207 - 00:21:607 - Same. ^

Then the first jumpstream, i dont think that this section need the kiai just because it have a jumpstream, this section is not that "hype" enough (and even it could be underwhelming if you compare it to the other 2 kiais on the song), to me this section is more like a 2nd intro of the song. kiai doesnt really affect gameplay in mania so no point changing
Apart from that this section is pretty well made, the hand balance is fine and the pitch is well representated on the few melodical sections. But i think there is a little mistake at the end:
00:56:707 - Why is this just a single LN when at 00:55:507 the same sound has 2 LNs. You should add a LN to (2) and extend the LN on (3) to 00:57:307. nice catch, fixed

Now the next section:
00:57:607 - 01:16:507 - I dont know why you didnt make all that section a JS, maybe for variety, maybe you want to put some more LNs on the map, but i think that if you are making a stamina map then you should keep that idea. I will understand if the song suddenly stops using fast sounds to put streams to, but the sound is there. Anyways if you want to keep your current patterns then is fine. intended for reading difficulty (if this is considered a thing)
Now, if you choose to keep that section then, some of the little streams that you put seems to be a little random. For example:
00:59:707 - I am asumming that you are putting the notes for the synthesizer, but then there is a lot more places where you also need yo put those notes:
00:57:907 - 00:58:507 - I can clearly hear that same sound, so why it doesnt have any stream over there? added
01:01:357 - 01:02:107 - The same synthesizer but with lower pitch, it still needs the stream. ^
01:07:507 - The stream should start at 01:07:357. ^
01:09:007 - 01:09:607 - That should be a stream. ^
01:12:007 - 01:12:307 - Stream.

Now the First Handstream of the map:
01:41:407 - That burst is really hard to press to be honest, i can already see a lot of people just missing in that section while having great acc during the entire map xD :b
First i dont know if is a good idea to have the jump at 01:41:707, second, move the note on 01:41:857 to (1) and the note on 01:41:894 to (2), the burst should not change direction since the sound is continuos, the only change of direction on the stream should be at 01:41:707, and your burst does it at 01:41:594 so i really recommend you to re arrange that burst. already has a direction change of some sort as it is
Also, is really necessary to end your burst with a triple? The end of your burst is really hard to press, with a minijack and also a minitrill at the right hand and then immediately the handstream. i think that only section will cost the FC to the mayority of players xD. removed the triple
The rest of the handstream is fine, it doesnt feel uncomfortable, pretty well made. yuy

Next the LN section:
02:22:807 - I really like the patterns on this section, and the streams are consistent so is good . yey
Maybe you could move all the long notes at 02:33:607 from (3) to (1) since the pitch is decreasing, also i think that these LNs have the same pitch as the ones at 02:34:807 so having all them on the same column (1) will be good. intended so that there won't be a 8 note LN stack

And finally some extra things:
02:51:007 - Move that LN to (2) because of the pitch. ok
03:28:807 - I dont think that a trill is better pattern for that section because it sounds like the sound is increasing his pitch, so maybe re arrange that section will be better. im not sure how to explain it from my point of view, but thats the best repetitive pattern that will "follow" that sort of pitch
02:05:407 - If you change the type of pattern used at 00:05:407 i suggest you to use that same pattern on this section and similars, it will make your map to look more consistent. changed it somehow
03:57:607 - Same. this one is fully intended for pitch and playability

Even with the section that i dont like, i think this is the best diff that i get requested to mod on my queue, congratulations not sure if im supposed to feel happy or sad

Well sir, the map is really well made so i decided that this will be the first map requested on my queue that i will give a star , congratulations
Hope this get ranked soon, good luck :insert_elated_emoji:

thanku foru moddu

AlisceaSparku

704 posts

Joined August 2013

AlisceaSparku 2017-08-02T14:52:22+00:00

H3LLO

first step on an actual complete mod
col. 1/2/3/4

[Nightfall]

00:01:207 (1207|3,1207|0) - I would appreciate it if this had a different note structure than 00:01:507 (1507|3,1507|0) - so it portrays the difference in drums used. Preferably I'd change 00:01:207 (1207|3,1207|0) - into something compact like a [1][2] or [3][4] so that both doubles can actually emphasize both pitches, the first one being heavy and then second one being light. In addition to this, you can make 00:01:957 (1957|2,1957|3) - have the same note structure as the doubles in 00:01:507 - to portray the similarity, just like how 00:02:407 (2407|1,2407|0) - is the same with 00:02:707 (2707|1,2707|0) - . You can actually use this mod as reference to some other parts :p.

00:15:007 (15007|0,15082|1) - These sounds are heavier than 00:14:782 (14782|3,14857|2,14932|1) - and imo the change in direction doesn't really emphasize the pitch difference, and the stair pattern makes it look like a drum roll of the same pitch would play. I suggest to make a pattern that can distinguish the pitch difference (man i really hope puush works at these times lol)

00:16:957 (16957|1) - Move it to col. 1? seems more aesthetic LOL also, it would be the same like 00:02:557 (2557|2,2857|2) - .

00:18:607 (18607|0,18682|1,18757|2,18832|1) - ctrl+h, for balance purpose and to emphasize the [1][4] trill more.

00:27:907 (27907|0) - extend to 00:28:507 - ? For LN >:) or add note at 00:28:507 - because drum, though its a faint one.

00:55:807 (55807|1) - extending the LN to 00:56:407 - seems better imo. The pitch could still be justified even with the extended LN.

02:01:507 (121507|2) - why not to 4? D: balance purposes

02:17:707 (137707|3) - move to col. 1 because i hate jacks >_> kidding i mean it looks more aesthetic in that way without losing too much difficulty.

02:22:507 (142507|1,142507|0) - I'd say to change one note to a LN to portray that this double is not the same with the doubles just before it.

02:22:957 - 02:41:857 - 1/2 LNs on 1/2 snaps seems fun imo ( c:< )

02:46:432 (166432|3) - well I would extend this to 02:46:582 - to mark the start of the completely silent part (and also for more LN hate)

no kds yet

riunosk

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Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-08-02T15:03:50+00:00

AlisceaSparku wrote:
H3LLO

first step on an actual complete mod
col. 1/2/3/4

[Nightfall]
00:01:207 (1207|3,1207|0) - I would appreciate it if this had a different note structure than 00:01:507 (1507|3,1507|0) - so it portrays the difference in drums used. Preferably I'd change 00:01:207 (1207|3,1207|0) - into something compact like a [1][2] or [3][4] so that both doubles can actually emphasize both pitches, the first one being heavy and then second one being light. In addition to this, you can make 00:01:957 (1957|2,1957|3) - have the same note structure as the doubles in 00:01:507 - to portray the similarity, just like how 00:02:407 (2407|1,2407|0) - is the same with 00:02:707 (2707|1,2707|0) - . You can actually use this mod as reference to some other parts :p. applied somehow, nice catcherino

00:15:007 (15007|0,15082|1) - These sounds are heavier than 00:14:782 (14782|3,14857|2,14932|1) - and imo the change in direction doesn't really emphasize the pitch difference, and the stair pattern makes it look like a drum roll of the same pitch would play. I suggest to make a pattern that can distinguish the pitch difference (man i really hope puush works at these times lol) sprayed magic on it

00:16:957 (16957|1) - Move it to col. 1? seems more aesthetic LOL also, it would be the same like 00:02:557 (2557|2,2857|2) - . o k !

00:18:607 (18607|0,18682|1,18757|2,18832|1) - ctrl+h, for balance purpose and to emphasize the [1][4] trill more. O K

00:27:907 (27907|0) - extend to 00:28:507 - ? For LN >:) or add note at 00:28:507 - because drum, though its a faint one. too inaudible to do anything to it, left it unchanged

00:55:807 (55807|1) - extending the LN to 00:56:407 - seems better imo. The pitch could still be justified even with the extended LN. not really

02:01:507 (121507|2) - why not to 4? D: balance purposes grrrr appliedo

02:17:707 (137707|3) - move to col. 1 because i hate jacks >_> kidding i mean it looks more aesthetic in that way without losing too much difficulty. okidoki

02:22:507 (142507|1,142507|0) - I'd say to change one note to a LN to portray that this double is not the same with the doubles just before it. not really needing the emphasis on that

02:22:957 - 02:41:857 - 1/2 LNs on 1/2 snaps seems fun imo ( c:< ) DIS IS NOT ALISCEA STYLE

02:46:432 (166432|3) - well I would extend this to 02:46:582 - to mark the start of the completely silent part (and also for more LN hate) dont really see the reason for that, considering i map stuff as accurately as possible

no kds yet

slamming the kds button

tenks for mod

booty

225 posts

Joined July 2014

booty 2017-08-02T16:14:01+00:00

M4M from my Modding Queue

1|2|3|4

Nightfall

00:03:007 (3007|1) - I felt like this could be a double
00:04:207 (4207|1) - ^
00:09:232 (9232|0) - I don't know if I hear this note but it could be on my side
00:15:007 (15007|0) - This is louder than this double 00:15:607 (15607|0,15607|3) here so I don't know why its a single, plus its a pretty significant drop in the beat, I'd recommend a note in the 4 column to match with the double at 00:15:607 (15607|0,15607|3) as well
00:42:907 (42907|3,42907|0,42907|1) - I'd make this a double to match with the rest of the pattern plus I think it fits better with the rhythm
00:43:807 (43807|2,43807|3) - Why is this a double if the same note before is a triple? You could say that its slightly lower but then you have a double like this 00:44:407 (44407|3,44407|0) - where it isn't lower so its inconsistent for the sake of keeping the pattern the same when it shouldn't be. Overall, I'd look over a lot of this section in terms of triples and doubles cause this happens a few times when a triple and double share the same sound
00:47:332 (47332|1) - This is the same sound as the notes around it but I get it for the transition so you don't have to change it
00:47:707 (47707|3,47707|0) - You could make this a triple since its louder but I get if you don't want the mini jack
00:51:907 (51907|3,52057|2) - I'd move this over one row to the left just cause they are different sounds
00:52:207 (52207|1) - Missing single?
00:57:907 (57907|3,57907|1) - I felt like a lot of doubles in this section could've been triples but as long as you keep it consistent then this section is fine
01:42:907 (102907|0,103057|0,103207|0,103357|0,103507|0,103657|0,103807|0) - Wowzer I really don't like this. I'd limit this to 5 in a row if possible so sections like this and 01:43:807 (103807|1,103957|1,104107|1,104257|1,104407|1) - don't appear everywhere but I understand its pretty hard with this pattern you're going for so I'll leave it to you what you want the anchor cap to be, I think anything above 5 should be changed
02:01:207 (121207|0,121207|1,121507|1,121507|3,121657|0,121657|2) - I think these can all be triples
02:02:257 (122257|2) - This is mapped to a vocal so I don't think its needed
02:02:107 (122107|0,122107|1,122407|3,122407|1) - same thing with the triples
02:51:607 (171607|2,171757|2,171907|2,172057|2,172207|2,172357|2,172507|2) - 7 note anchor thing
02:52:807 (172807|3,172957|3,173107|3,173257|3,173407|3,173557|3,173707|3) - ^
02:54:607 (174607|1,174757|1,174907|1,175057|1,175207|1,175357|1,175507|1,175657|1,175807|1) - 9 notes this time, theres a lot of these so I'll stop just look out for extremely long ones cause then its less pattern and more just trilling
03:25:507 (205507|3,205507|2,205657|0,205657|1,205807|2,205807|3) - I think these could all be layered on top of each other since they are the same sound but its fine like this i think
04:04:507 (244507|3,244507|2,244507|0) - this should be a double probably since it gets quieter
04:06:907 (246907|0,246907|2,246907|3) - ^
04:07:507 (247507|0,247507|2,247507|1,248107|0,248107|1,248107|2) - I think these could be doubles instead

Good song, GL on ranked

riunosk

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Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-08-03T10:55:48+00:00

booty wrote:
M4M from my Modding Queue

1|2|3|4

Nightfall
00:03:007 (3007|1) - I felt like this could be a double dont really think its necessary since not really strong enough for a double and it ruins the pattern
00:04:207 (4207|1) - ^ ^
00:09:232 (9232|0) - I don't know if I hear this note but it could be on my side nice catch, removed ghost note
00:15:007 (15007|0) - This is louder than this double 00:15:607 (15607|0,15607|3) here so I don't know why its a single, plus its a pretty significant drop in the beat, I'd recommend a note in the 4 column to match with the double at 00:15:607 (15607|0,15607|3) as well no kick here so no change
00:42:907 (42907|3,42907|0,42907|1) - I'd make this a double to match with the rest of the pattern plus I think it fits better with the rhythm i insist on a triple for the snare to be consistent
00:43:807 (43807|2,43807|3) - Why is this a double if the same note before is a triple? You could say that its slightly lower but then you have a double like this 00:44:407 (44407|3,44407|0) - where it isn't lower so its inconsistent for the sake of keeping the pattern the same when it shouldn't be. Overall, I'd look over a lot of this section in terms of triples and doubles cause this happens a few times when a triple and double share the same sound not really understanding you, but assuming you were referring to the 2 triples before this, one is for the snare and the other has an extra note for the cymbal
00:47:332 (47332|1) - This is the same sound as the notes around it but I get it for the transition so you don't have to change it yus
00:47:707 (47707|3,47707|0) - You could make this a triple since its louder but I get if you don't want the mini jack i would usually minijack this but i prefer playability over unnecessary difficulty
00:51:907 (51907|3,52057|2) - I'd move this over one row to the left just cause they are different sounds pretty sure they are all different but its for pitch relevancy for the vocal
00:52:207 (52207|1) - Missing single? nope, only charting the vocal here
00:57:907 (57907|3,57907|1) - I felt like a lot of doubles in this section could've been triples but as long as you keep it consistent then this section is fine those aren't snares, so they stay as doubles
01:42:907 (102907|0,103057|0,103207|0,103357|0,103507|0,103657|0,103807|0) - Wowzer I really don't like this. I'd limit this to 5 in a row if possible so sections like this and 01:43:807 (103807|1,103957|1,104107|1,104257|1,104407|1) - don't appear everywhere but I understand its pretty hard with this pattern you're going for so I'll leave it to you what you want the anchor cap to be, I think anything above 5 should be changed for this i want an emphasis on anchors while not exceeding 9 notes at once
02:01:207 (121207|0,121207|1,121507|1,121507|3,121657|0,121657|2) - I think these can all be triples triples seem too strong even for kick+vocal
02:02:257 (122257|2) - This is mapped to a vocal so I don't think its needed it IS needed since i follow vocals
02:02:107 (122107|0,122107|1,122407|3,122407|1) - same thing with the triples same as before
02:51:607 (171607|2,171757|2,171907|2,172057|2,172207|2,172357|2,172507|2) - 7 note anchor thing same as before
02:52:807 (172807|3,172957|3,173107|3,173257|3,173407|3,173557|3,173707|3) - ^ ^
02:54:607 (174607|1,174757|1,174907|1,175057|1,175207|1,175357|1,175507|1,175657|1,175807|1) - 9 notes this time, theres a lot of these so I'll stop just look out for extremely long ones cause then its less pattern and more just trilling same as before
03:25:507 (205507|3,205507|2,205657|0,205657|1,205807|2,205807|3) - I think these could all be layered on top of each other since they are the same sound but its fine like this i think seems fine as it is
04:04:507 (244507|3,244507|2,244507|0) - this should be a double probably since it gets quieter still a snare sound so will stay as a triple for consistency
04:06:907 (246907|0,246907|2,246907|3) - ^ ^
04:07:507 (247507|0,247507|2,247507|1,248107|0,248107|1,248107|2) - I think these could be doubles instead ^

Good song, GL on ranked yuy

thenk fer med

Tar Curunir

59 posts

Joined October 2012

Tar Curunir 2017-08-03T14:50:33+00:00

Hello! From my modding queue 1|2|3|4

General

Sick map

Extra

00:10:507 (10507|3) - move this from 4 to 3
00:10:582 (10582|2) - move this from 3 - 4, this makes this pattern more consistent with the previous one.
00:14:707 (14707|3,14707|2) - this should be a single
00:15:007 (15007|2) - this should be a double. strong sound here
00:16:207 (16207|1) - ^
00:17:407 (17407|0) - ^
00:18:607 (18607|0) - ^
00:36:007 (36007|0,36082|1,36157|3,36232|2,36307|1,36382|0,36457|2,36532|3,36607|0,36682|1,36757|3,36832|2,36907|1,36982|0,37057|2,37132|3) - this pattern looks a bit nicer imo: https://puu.sh/x0y5p/1ea615ae2d.png
00:45:232 (45232|2,45532|2) - I think this pattern would play smoother if you put those 2 notes in column 4. This would also give a nice contrast to this pattern you used before at 00:42:607 (42607|0,42607|1,42682|2,42757|1,42757|0,42832|2,42907|0,42907|1,42982|2,43057|1,43057|0,43132|2,43207|0,43207|1)
00:47:182 (47182|0,47332|1,47482|0,47632|1) - I would consider making all of these doubles, since the sound here is more intense than previously.
00:55:507 (55507|3,55807|2,56107|0,56707|2,57007|3) - how about adding singles with the start of these LNs?
01:05:857 (65857|1,66157|1,66382|1,66532|1,66757|1) - anchor
01:15:757 (75757|2,75757|3,75907|2,75907|3,76057|2,76057|3,76207|2,76207|3,76357|2,76357|3,76507|2,76507|3) - the doubles seem out of place here, I'd make a pattern with singles only.
01:16:657 (76657|0) - make this a LN until the white tick.
01:38:407 (98407|2) - move this from 3 to 1
01:41:407 (101407|0,101444|1,101482|3,101519|2,101557|0,101594|1,101632|3,101669|2) - the sound in this section is different than 01:41:707 (101707|0,101744|1,101782|3,101819|2,101857|0,101894|1,101932|3,101969|2) - this section. change up the pattern here.
01:57:607 (117607|1,117682|2,117757|3) - I'd move this pattern one column to the left, looks more polished
02:02:107 (122107|1) - move this from 2 - 4
02:02:257 I'd map the vocals on this red tick. LNs maybe?
02:02:707 Same thing here
02:07:657 (127657|1,127732|0,127807|1,127882|2,127957|3,127957|0,127957|1,128032|2) - suggestion: https://puu.sh/x0zgs/71980ddf6e.png
02:21:607 (141607|0,141607|1,141682|3,141757|1,141757|0,141832|2,141907|1,141907|0,141982|3,142057|0,142057|1,142132|2,142207|0,142207|1,142282|3,142357|0,142357|1,142432|2,142507|1,142507|0) - this is not a dealbreaker, but i'd make these all singles too, since it's the same intense sound.
02:33:607 (153607|2,153907|2,154207|2,154507|2) - i get what you're trying to do here, these should be in column 1, but that wouldn't add up with the LNs later so I don't have a solution for this one. This is fine as it is.
03:08:707 add a note with the end of this LN
03:12:907 ^
03:14:707 ^
03:15:082 add a note on this blue tick (column 2)
03:15:157 (195157|1) - move this to column 1
03:26:107 (206107|0,206407|1,206707|2,207007|0,207307|1,207607|2,207907|0,208207|1,208507|2) - You have 9 sliders for this pattern, I'd suggest splitting these up in sets of 3 going from column 1 - 3: https://puu.sh/x0zUd/e306aac0a7.png
03:28:807 (208807|0) - that change would allow you to do this: https://puu.sh/x0zVE/4a2c12bf40.png this gives this section overall a more polished look.
04:04:057 (244057|0,244207|3,244357|2) - you can add a stream in this section
04:05:257 (245257|2,245407|3,245557|0,245557|1) - ^
04:06:457 (246457|3,246607|2,246757|1,246907|2,246907|0,246907|3) - ^
04:07:207 (247207|0) - double here?
04:07:807 (247807|2) - double?

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00:10:507 (10507|3) - move this from 4 to 3 good idea
00:10:582 (10582|2) - move this from 3 - 4, this makes this pattern more consistent with the previous one. ^
00:14:707 (14707|3,14707|2) - this should be a single why? its the same sound as 00:15:907 (15907|0,15907|1) -
00:15:007 (15007|2) - this should be a double. strong sound here not really a strong sound
00:16:207 (16207|1) - ^ ^
00:17:407 (17407|0) - ^ ^
00:18:607 (18607|0) - ^ ^
00:36:007 (36007|0,36082|1,36157|3,36232|2,36307|1,36382|0,36457|2,36532|3,36607|0,36682|1,36757|3,36832|2,36907|1,36982|0,37057|2,37132|3) - this pattern looks a bit nicer imo: https://puu.sh/x0y5p/1ea615ae2d.png i'd prefer not using a repeated pattern
00:45:232 (45232|2,45532|2) - I think this pattern would play smoother if you put those 2 notes in column 4. This would also give a nice contrast to this pattern you used before at 00:42:607 goot idea(42607|0,42607|1,42682|2,42757|1,42757|0,42832|2,42907|0,42907|1,42982|2,43057|1,43057|0,43132|2,43207|0,43207|1)
00:47:182 (47182|0,47332|1,47482|0,47632|1) - I would consider making all of these doubles, since the sound here is more intense than previously. though it is more intense, this pattern is considerably harder to execute than simple jumptrilling
00:55:507 (55507|3,55807|2,56107|0,56707|2,57007|3) - how about adding singles with the start of these LNs? not really any sound for it
01:05:857 (65857|1,66157|1,66382|1,66532|1,66757|1) - anchor uh no this is not an anchor
01:15:757 (75757|2,75757|3,75907|2,75907|3,76057|2,76057|3,76207|2,76207|3,76357|2,76357|3,76507|2,76507|3) - the doubles seem out of place here, I'd make a pattern with singles only. intended for difficulty
01:16:657 (76657|0) - make this a LN until the white tick. not really any reason for it
01:38:407 (98407|2) - move this from 3 to 1 it's for vocal pitch
01:41:407 (101407|0,101444|1,101482|3,101519|2,101557|0,101594|1,101632|3,101669|2) - the sound in this section is different than 01:41:707 (101707|0,101744|1,101782|3,101819|2,101857|0,101894|1,101932|3,101969|2) - this section. change up the pattern here. flipperood
01:57:607 (117607|1,117682|2,117757|3) - I'd move this pattern one column to the left, looks more polished that would continue a repeated 123 pattern so no
02:02:107 (122107|1) - move this from 2 - 4 not really any reason why and its in some form of a pitch
02:02:257 I'd map the vocals on this red tick. LNs maybe? not really mapping vocals directly
02:02:707 Same thing here ^
02:07:657 (127657|1,127732|0,127807|1,127882|2,127957|3,127957|0,127957|1,128032|2) - suggestion: https://puu.sh/x0zgs/71980ddf6e.png that would force a 5-note anchor on 2
02:21:607 (141607|0,141607|1,141682|3,141757|1,141757|0,141832|2,141907|1,141907|0,141982|3,142057|0,142057|1,142132|2,142207|0,142207|1,142282|3,142357|0,142357|1,142432|2,142507|1,142507|0) - this is not a dealbreaker, but i'd make these all singles too, since it's the same intense sound. same as before
02:33:607 (153607|2,153907|2,154207|2,154507|2) - i get what you're trying to do here, these should be in column 1, but that wouldn't add up with the LNs later so I don't have a solution for this one. This is fine as it is. :b
03:08:707 add a note with the end of this LN not charting for this sound
03:12:907 ^ ^
03:14:707 ^ ^
03:15:082 add a note on this blue tick (column 2) added
03:15:157 (195157|1) - move this to column 1 applied
03:26:107 (206107|0,206407|1,206707|2,207007|0,207307|1,207607|2,207907|0,208207|1,208507|2) - You have 9 sliders for this pattern, I'd suggest splitting these up in sets of 3 going from column 1 - 3: https://puu.sh/x0zUd/e306aac0a7.png intended for pitch
03:28:807 (208807|0) - that change would allow you to do this: https://puu.sh/x0zVE/4a2c12bf40.png this gives this section overall a more polished look. applied with modification
04:04:057 (244057|0,244207|3,244357|2) - you can add a stream in this section wasn't charting for this sound in the section, will not suddenly add it here
04:05:257 (245257|2,245407|3,245557|0,245557|1) - ^ ^
04:06:457 (246457|3,246607|2,246757|1,246907|2,246907|0,246907|3) - ^ ^
04:07:207 (247207|0) - double here? kept single for ease of playability and sound isnt strong enough to be double in this situation
04:07:807 (247807|2) - double? ^

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