Ward74 wrote:

Easy

00:07:909 (2,3) - Blanked This one I think is normal move , but I change another style
00:09:255 (4) - It's a kinda weird no ? Umm... I think this one bcz here has a heavy sound on 00:09:255 (4) - and some continue sound to 00:10:135 - . In order to simplify the rhythm i use a silder and beginer can easy to read this one. temporarily maintain original style , but I will notice it ,Thanks!
00:25:573 - Blanked Fix

Normal

00:05:216 (3) - Overllaping 00:06:370 (5) - oh! you are right , change this one! 00:05:216 (3,5) - now is stack circle and silder
00:31:370 (6,1) - Blanked https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8436612 Thanks! Fix this one~

Hard

00:15:986 (3) - Nc ? This one , bcz training player to adapt pause note , I don't NC here ,pause note is important for the skill on Insane above
00:18:293 (3,4) - Blanked Fix
00:21:755 (7,8) - ^ this one i think not bcz the slider 6 and 7 has a pair
01:14:062 (2,3) - It's a big jump :/ indeed, but this one i stack with 01:15:409 (3) - I will think about how to change this!

Insane

00:19:447 (1,2) - Blanked ? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8436655 Consider about behind note ,i change blanket 00:20:024 (2,3) - with circle 2 and silder 3


Nothing to say for other diff good luck and it's a funny map :p The next time ask me for M4M ( I'm the mapper of Fallen Down the last map you modded ) ^^ Wow~ thanks for your modding~ I can accept NM or M4M , hope see you again!

Thanks for your modding~ see you next time!

General
Black and white is the worst generation
Easy
00:26:755 (2) I don't like having a kickslider in a normal difficulty
00:40:992 random green line lmao
01:04:062 (3) I don't like this slider shape just because new players will often try to precisely follow the ball and this shape makes it hard
Normal
00:56:755 put a repeating slider here because the lack of objects feels awkward in contrast to the meledy
Hard
00:12:524 (5,6,7,8) these are both representing the same sounds, why are they represented so differently ( this goes for the same sounds before as well)
00:15:216 (1,2,3) move 1 and 2 of off 3, players will expect the notes to be snapped equally so people will click 3 early
00:28:293 (8,9,10,11,1) move 8,9,10, and 11 onto 1 because the moving stream doesn't make sense
00:38:101 (1,2,3,4) move these away from each other because players will think they that they are snapped closer together than they are
00:55:409 (1) unnecessary kickslider
01:04:832 (8,9,10,11,12,13) this is a hard diff, lower the stream spacing
Insane
00:03:293 (1,2,3,4) turn the kick into a triple or the triple into a kick
01:20:986 (1,2,1,2) gradually increase spacing to help emphasize the crescendo.

ahsoka08 wrote:

Here is the M4M from my queue! Thanks~!

General
Black and white is the worst generation <3
Easy
00:26:755 (2) I don't like having a kickslider in a normal difficulty bcz this one has 2 short voice , easy level not suitable for 2 note continue short rhythm on white and red set , in oder to easy to easy map , I think that is fine , or wait another people to give me some suggestion
00:40:992 random green line lmao delete the green line on easy
01:04:062 (3) I don't like this slider shape just because new players will often try to precisely follow the ball and this shape makes it hard At first, my intention is reduce the read map pressure, but it's looking uncomfortable for this now , I will change this one
Normal
00:56:755 put a repeating slider here because the lack of objects feels awkward in contrast to the meledy this one I think temporarily not Amendment bcz this one has some long voice on here , although there was another beat on behind
Hard
00:12:524 (5,6,7,8) these are both representing the same sounds, why are they represented so differently ( this goes for the same sounds before as well) i think bcz 3 note for this one is first 3 note beats on here , in order to remind players , I put 1 short silder back.
00:15:216 (1,2,3) move 1 and 2 of off 3, players will expect the notes to be snapped equally so people will click 3 early I think pause note is important for the skill on Insane above , so I put this skills on hard
00:28:293 (8,9,10,11,1) move 8,9,10, and 11 onto 1 because the moving stream doesn't make sense this one I think before slider 1 has small 4 beats drum voice needs highlighted it
00:38:101 (1,2,3,4) move these away from each other because players will think they that they are snapped closer together than they are deliberately, As described above I think pause note is important for the skill on Insane above , so I put this skills on hard But this one can think about how to put it , Thanks!
00:55:409 (1) unnecessary kickslider i will think about how to change this ~ Thanks!
01:04:832 (8,9,10,11,12,13) this is a hard diff, lower the stream spacing bcz this one is hhe highest tide ,I have tried DS 0.5 ,0.75, even DS 0 ,The effect is not as good as DS1 ,At last choose DS 1 on here , Insane has the part , hope player can practice it , to the Insane gap not so big
Insane
00:03:293 (1,2,3,4) turn the kick into a triple or the triple into a kick temporarily unchanged , but I will think about it , Thanks!
01:20:986 (1,2,1,2) gradually increase spacing to help emphasize the crescendo. Currently, has do easier Insane , But this Suggestion is so good , I will think about it~ Thanks!

This is a wonderful map, shoot a star pls

Okinami wrote:

from my queue, ill do my best Wow~ thanks for your help~

Wishes

[wishes]
00:03:293 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - these two look odd. imo itd look better if you rotated the first triple about 8 degrees clockwise, and then copy and pasted chaneg 8 degrees ~ OK
00:04:639 (3) - these 1/1 sliders ignore the drum hit on the white tick, you might want to consider finding an alternative (ie a repeating 1/2 slider) Oh~ change there rhythm!
00:07:524 (2,4) - perhaps move these two closer to the 3 slider, and away from 00:08:486 (1) - so the overlap looks less messy 2 4 closer 3 fix!
00:11:370 (4,1) - spacing is a bit odd for no clear reason silder 1 far to silder 4 now is looking OK
00:14:062 (5) - move to 172,148 fix
00:15:409 (3) - would be a lot better as a 1/1 slider into a triple this one think not some idea change this , i will still Observed it
00:16:947 (4) - spacing isnt perfect here (prev 1.13x next 1.19x) Ds1.15 change
00:17:524 (6,1,4) - the way these overlap is very messy, consider moving 00:18:678 (4) - somewhere else stack with 00:17:909 (1) -
00:20:024 (2,8) - fix overlap Fix
00:21:755 (9,10) - these two sliders are a bit silly. you should copy and paste 00:22:139 (10) - instead Fix
00:28:678 (1,2) - two different sliders, looks very odd Fix
00:45:793 (6,7) - again, two different sliders. looks very weird this one temporarily unchange
00:46:947 (10) - lay this note inside of the slider track instead (93,279 would do) fix
00:50:601 (3) - this has a larger spacing than any note in the next jump, consider changing i change stack with 00:49:639 (3) -
00:52:524 (3,4,5,6) - cool and all, but the spacing increases rather drastically ds-->3.5 down to 1.77~1.93
00:53:678 (2,5) - these should overlap with the slider head instead for neatness. theres no reason not to fix it
01:02:909 (2,1) - watch your messy overlaps. they can be done right if you get your ratios perfect, but this isnt quite right fix
01:06:178 (3,5) - messy overlap this one i think "Z" style jump for this ,temporarily unchange
01:08:486 (1) - dont really like blankets so tight like this, however it does work. ignore if you cant find anything better Umm... temporarily unchange, bcz I has not other idea.........
01:13:293 (5) - this should have a finish hitsound fix
01:15:216 (2,4) - messy overlap fix
01:22:909 (2) - instead, consider stacking this with the circle on 1 fix
looks good, with a bit of polishing this could be rankable Thanks, but I always thought it was not the best...

feel free to deny anything

Thanks for your modding~

1. Dakishimetai kono natsu wo gyutto
   Soba ni iru kara ne boku ga zutto~
2. Nice pp map.

1. 00:08:486 - A slider should start here, not end here, because this beat is so important.
   
   1. 00:10:216 - ^
   2. 00:49:639 (5) - ^ But here, I would take out the slider entirely, and just put a circle where it starts and start a slider where it ends.
2. 00:25:216 (4,1) - Blanket could be improved.
3. 00:26:755 (2) - Your target audience can't read these short sliders. Just put a circle on the red tick instead.
   
   1. 00:38:870 (6) - ^ here too, so just put a circle on the white tick.
4. 00:33:293 (5) - This slider doesnt make sense because it bounces back on such a minor vocal, which kind of distracts from the actual vocal, which starts on the white tick after your repeat. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8476433 Try this (Look at the timeline not the mapping grid)
5. 00:40:986 - Manual break should really end here.
6. 00:47:716 - This vocal is super important, don't ignore it.
7. 00:47:909 (3) - This slider starts on nothing. Scoot it forward to start on the red tick after it to match the vocals. (00:48:486 - shorten it to here)
8. 01:02:524 (1,2) - Circles capture this vocal a lot better in my opinion.
9. 01:14:447 - Put a note here, this sound is super important.

1. 00:03:293 (5) - Your target audience struggles playing these when there's a circle before and after them. So just make this a repeat.
   
   1. 00:54:062 (2) - ^
2. 00:04:639 - Don't skip this. Very important background music. (and don't say it was because you were mapping drums, because you mapped this noise here 00:05:409 (4) - .)
3. 00:12:524 (6) - Circles would map this a lot better.
4. 00:59:832 - For this part, pick something to map and stick to it, because bouncing between vocals and the music leads to these giant chains of 1/2 notes that your target audience will get lost in. Try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8476509 to effectively map the vocals and break that giant chain (see timeline, not mapping grid.)
5. 01:07:524 (6) - Let's stick to the vocals and delete this note that just makes things unnecessarily more difficult for the player.
6. 01:07:716 - Something should really map the start of this vocal.

• Good luck!!

PolkaMocha wrote:

[General:]

1. Dakishimetai kono natsu wo gyutto
   Soba ni iru kara ne boku ga zutto~ //Hidamariyorimo Mafushiinda Yokogaoni Kiramekushisuku~
2. Nice pp map. //<3

[Easy:]

1. 00:08:486 - A slider should start here, not end here, because this beat is so important. // change this ,I adjust this structure bcz this part first silder has use white line , change another click 00:07:139 (1) - silder end red line 00:08:101 (2) - click 00:08:486 (3) - important note start a silder to solve this problem
   
   1. 00:10:216 - ^ // change this one 00:09:255 (4) - end the small white line ,start big white line on 00:10:216 (1) - solve this problem
   2. 00:49:639 (5) - ^ But here, I would take out the slider entirely, and just put a circle where it starts and start a slider where it ends.
   // Good method! I always feel troubled on this one ... Now finally resolved , thanks!
   
2. 00:25:216 (4,1) - Blanket could be improved. // Fix~
3. 00:26:755 (2) - Your target audience can't read these short sliders. Just put a circle on the red tick instead. // this to test a few times , I try to adjust this , put the red line , and then give others test it . Currently, This one I have 2 ideas ,one is use this , the other maybe use this part 00:34:832 (1) - to 00:37:139 (4) -
   
   1. 00:38:870 (6) - ^ here too, so just put a circle on the white tick.
   // OK~ test it!
4. 00:33:293 (5) - This slider doesnt make sense because it bounces back on such a minor vocal, which kind of distracts from the actual vocal, which starts on the white tick after your repeat. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8476433 Try this (Look at the timeline not the mapping grid) //good results! change this
5. 00:40:986 - Manual break should really end here. OK that is fine~
6. 00:47:716 - This vocal is super important, don't ignore it. 00:47:139 (1,2,3) - fix it about this circle 1 no change ,2 change on red line and circle it ,3 extend on 00:48:101 (3) - start
7. 00:47:909 (3) - This slider starts on nothing. Scoot it forward to start on the red tick after it to match the vocals. (00:48:486 - shorten it to here) // The same 00:47:716 (2) - change take 00:48:101 (3) - on red line
8. 01:02:524 (1,2) - Circles capture this vocal a lot better in my opinion. //change 4 circles
9. 01:14:447 - Put a note here, this sound is super important. // added~

[Normal:]

1. 00:03:293 (5) - Your target audience struggles playing these when there's a circle before and after them. So just make this a repeat. // change this one~
   
   1. 00:54:062 (2) - ^// ^
2. 00:04:639 - Don't skip this. Very important background music. (and don't say it was because you were mapping drums, because you mapped this noise here 00:05:409 (4) - .) //Umm... you are right , I don't know how the idea of that time, so I add circle here
3. 00:12:524 (6) - Circles would map this a lot better. //change 2 circle from silder
4. 00:59:832 - For this part, pick something to map and stick to it, because bouncing between vocals and the music leads to these giant chains of 1/2 notes that your target audience will get lost in. Try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8476509 to effectively map the vocals and break that giant chain (see timeline, not mapping grid.) // Wow! this part improve methods are good , "looooong~note" much reduce , Next is my place it!!
5. 01:07:524 (6) - Let's stick to the vocals and delete this note that just makes things unnecessarily more difficult for the player. // delete circle
6. 01:07:716 - Something should really map the start of this vocal. // circle it
   

[Afteword:]

• Good luck!! // WOW~! It's so helpful for me to realize some put skill , really thanks again~!!

Xinchii wrote:

巴哈路過亂mod個

都是建議 , 隨意看看就好 //什...什麼 居然可以遇到野生的Xinchii大 就決定是你了 三首惡龍(大誤

藍色=改了 橘色=部分修改 紅色=應該沒改

[Wishes]

1. 00:09:239 (2,3) - 感覺這個也用短滑條就好 , 沒有什麼特別想凸顯的聲音就不用特別插連打在裡面ㄌ //確實，多那兩拍很奇怪 我改了
2. 00:15:216 (2) - 跟前面的slider距離有點近 , 至少像00:15:793 (4,1) - 這樣的距離會好一些// 移動前1.53vs1.83確實差很多，以加大DS到1.84
3. 00:56:178 (1) - 這個可以ctrl+G , 感覺這邊沒有移動很怪 的確 這邊重音非常重 需要強調才是 以ctrl+G 而且意外的也強調了這點 00:56:755 (2) - 不錯! 然後為了讓距離調和 稍加把後面的3條了點距離
4. 00:58:486 (2,3) - 距離有點近 , 考慮把(2)往上面移一些嗎? //好的 讓他有點難度
5. 01:01:562 (3) - 跟(1)的頭尾放平均一點會比較好看 //OK 平均了這個~
   
   SPOILER

   
6. Newcombo感覺下的有點不平均 , 前段8拍(2條長白線)下一個 , 中間變2拍or1拍一個
   比較推薦一個長白線就下一個NC的放法
   像00:40:986 - 這之後這一段bridge的NC就有點太頻繁了 //原本的用意是顧慮到血量加的 不過既然會影響讀譜改了

[Oni]

1. 00:00:696 - , 00:00:792 - add k , 這邊鼓聲感覺是7連 , kdddkkk聽起來比較順 //確實 我改了
2. 00:03:293 - 00:03:870 - , 00:09:447 - 00:10:024 - 這兩段是對稱的 , 建議放同樣數量的note , 放50%聽好像也是7連 第一個連音我不知道問甚麼會那樣加 現在都是7個音節了
3. 00:15:216 (81) - 這個比較像後面一拍的準備 , 建議改k就好 , 凸顯後面的D //不錯 改了
4. 00:16:178 - 這邊是vocal的開始可以用三連帶起fu , 而且背景也有鼓聲 //改了
5. 00:19:255 (96) - k //改了
6. 00:21:755 (105,106,107,108,109) - ddkkd看看? 原本的k在00:21:947 (106) - 的地方感覺有點突兀 // 確實 這個拍好讀不少 修了
7. 00:23:486 (112,113,114,115) - dkkd? //改了 效果不錯
8. 00:24:639 (117) - k , 我覺得00:24:832 (118) - 的強拍再換色會比較好 , 跟後面那組三打一樣 //對稱效果不錯 改了
9. 00:26:947 (126) - add finish? // 怕影響讀譜 這個沒有家進去
10. 00:29:255 (142) - k? 改了
11. 00:31:562 (154) - move to 00:31:947 - ? and change to k , 覺得比較合你跟旋律的style 留一點聲音的效果不錯 這個我改了
12. 00:34:639 (168) - move to 00:35:024 - ? and change to k , 00:34:447 - 這個聲音有延長感 , 比較適合後面留1/2讓00:34:832 - 這個音更有fu ^
13. 00:37:716 (181) - move to 00:38:293 - ? 同上 ^
14. 00:37:909 (182) - finish? and remove finish on 00:38:101 (183) - ? 這邊我修成最前跟最後那兩顆為大顆的 中間兩個是小顆 試行看看
15. 00:40:024 (187) - 00:44:062 (208) - 這一段我在打的時候覺得有點ramdom :< , 要不要試試看下面這個 換手的感覺真好 我改了
    
    SPOILER

    
16. 00:52:812 - add note ? 副歌前做個三連帶氣氛 這個不錯
17. 00:21:562 (433) - , 01:22:332 (437) - D? ; 01:22:524 (438) - 01:23:101 (441) - KDDK? //第一個地方好像標錯了...看了一下應該是01:21:562 - 改了 這邊都改了
18. 01:23:486 -add k? //這個目前暫時不加 想說到尾端了 就別多顆音了XD

1. 00:04:639 (2,3) - Fix blanket
2. 00:08:293 (3) - Make constant spacing between 00:07:716 (2,4) -
3. 00:08:486 (4,5) - blanket
4. 00:09:062 (5,8,9,10,1) - a bit cramped to me (overlaps). Try to arrange it better.
5. 00:18:293 (3) - I think this 1/1 is out of place because volcal in 00:18:486 - is loud. Try this from 00:17:524 - :
   
   Imo the best way to map it.
6. 00:20:601 (4) - This slider end on important beat + its upbeat. Try this from 00:19:447 -
   
7. 00:29:255 (2,1) - Blanket
8. 00:29:255 (2,1) - 00:30:216 (3,4,5,6) - blankets
9. 00:35:409 (2,3,4) - This flows bad - movement is a bit weird here.
10. 01:24:062 - spiner do not have sound but 01:24:062 - here is. puct circle here and move spin to blue tick.

Blan_C wrote:

Hello. NM from my queue. // Hihi~ Nice to meet you ,Thanks for your help
Hard

1. 00:04:639 (2,3) - Fix blanket //fixed
2. 00:08:293 (3) - Make constant spacing between 00:07:716 (2,4) - //ds adjust 1.32 vs 1.29 , bcz this stack 00:09:255 (6) - effect ,cause ds error
3. 00:08:486 (4,5) - blanket //fixed
4. 00:09:062 (5,8,9,10,1) - a bit cramped to me (overlaps). Try to arrange it better. //I try to avoid overlapping here ,position fixed
5. 00:18:293 (3) - I think this 1/1 is out of place because volcal in 00:18:486 - is loud. Try this from 00:17:524 - : // good point ,but this one I pay attention to coordination ,deliberately omitted in 00:18:293 (3) - vocal . And I think can reduce some note on vocal begin . but this one can consider if some modder pick me this problems. I may to change this
   
   Imo the best way to map it.
6. 00:20:601 (4) - This slider end on important beat + its upbeat. Try this from 00:19:447 - //As described above ,also deliberately ,but this one can consider if some modder pick me this problems. I may to change this
   
7. 00:29:255 (2,1) - Blanket //fixed
8. 00:29:255 (2,1) - 00:30:216 (3,4,5,6) - blankets //fixed
9. 00:35:409 (2,3,4) - This flows bad - movement is a bit weird here. // indeed ,I will change this one ,but give me time to think this part
10. 01:24:062 - spiner do not have sound but 01:24:062 - here is. puct circle here and move spin to blue tick. //fixed

Pok0555 wrote:

hi, from my q // Thanks for your help~

Normal

00:08:101 (3,4) - Blanket this? //I think this one has too far to do blanket is not good choose
00:45:409 (4) - Break this slider down to smaller sliders/circles if possible, there's beats at 00:45:601 and 00:45:986 //this one I tend to vocal bcz this one if I add , may to cause "looooonger" beat on here ,In order to appropriate break , I choose vocal
00:48:486 (4) - same ^ (but there's only 1 beat this time at 00:49:062) //^
01:10:793 (7) - ^ (01:11:370 here) this one i think 1/2 is not good choose ,no change
00:54:639 (3) - Shouldn't this slider end at 00:55:216 instead (or u could add a circle there)? there's a strong beat there // I think there has need break for new player, and this one I follow vocal
00:57:716 (4) - ^ (at 00:58:293) //^
01:00:024 (5) - You could make this a 1/2 slider and add a reverse, there's a beat at 01:00:216 and u also missed a beat at 01:00:601 //I think vocal is important on here
01:00:793 (6) - There's a strong beat at the white tick (and NC here)// Only change NC
01:01:562 (8) - ^ // No change
01:02:332 (9) - ^ // ^
01:10:793 (7) - ^ //^
01:02:139 (9) - Missed a beat // ^
01:07:524 (6) - ^// ^
01:07:716 (6) - NC // Fixed
01:14:832 (1,2,3,4) - There's some beats on the white tick you missed, check them again ///but I think red line heavy voice louder than white line
01:14:062 (2,3) - And plz don't add jumps in Normal -_-//Uh... ds adjust 0.99

Hard

There's a lot of beats you missed, remember, all red and white ticks where beats exist must be filled (especially on white ticks since they're strong beats), here's some examples
00:01:755 - Missed // I think red line heavy voice louder than white line, but this one I can consider about it! Thanks~
00:02:909 - ^ //^
00:04:832 - ^ //^
00:05:986 - ^ //^
00:07:909 - ^ //^
00:10:986 - ^ //^
Those ^ are some examples I found, scan through you map again to fix all other mistakes similar to this, also try not to have sliders pass through a white tick
00:03:582 - There's a small beat here, consider removing the second reverse slider and make the first slider has more reverses (if that make sense)

Welp, that's all, good luck!

gary00737 wrote:

還是很想要那背景

傻東西 Ash(satoshi)

傲嬌藤藤蛇 Snivy ツタージャ

bob80905 wrote:

Hey, from an in-game m4m
I'll do Insane and the GD // Thanks for your help~

Insane

Insane[/color]

1. 00:03:678 (8,9,10) - What if you move these to the coords x:245 y:241? this way theres a more direct path between the previous reverse slider and more of an equal distance between the previous object and the next slider. //this one i pay attention to 00:01:562 (2) - overlap ,and I think this one should be emphasize 00:04:062 (1) -
2. FYI, at 6.274 you seem to be missing a sound. Although maybe you intentionally skipped over it because it's too difficult... just letting you know if you want to add anything there. //Uhh... I don't know this means , seems Missing some word
3. For 00:02:332 (4) - and 00:08:486 (4) -, I don't think you should stack these with their previous hit circles. I think they deserve more emphasis, and should be separated from their previous circles, even if it's slightly. Like, this is a good example. 00:05:409 (4) -. I think you should be consistent and apply 00:05:409 (4) - distance to all of them, it feels better that way. // Indeed, change it , stack with silder tail (3),and (4) replace position
4. 00:12:524 (5,6,7) - Consider converting this into a reverse slider that points upward. This reduces the difficulty alot. Also, alternating between reverse sliders and streams makes the song more bearable (in my humble opinion). //this one I think OK ,bcz in ready to enter vocal should not be hard
5. 00:18:870 (9) - I think this should be stacked with 00:18:678 (8) - instead of the slider. The vocalist sings the same note on these 2 notes, not on 9 and the next slider. //Yes you are right ,change it
6. 00:24:447 (6) - You should try to avoid overlaps for aesthetic reasons. But if you can't change this pattern no matter what, don't worry too much about it.//not change ,but i will think about it
7. 00:26:755 (4) - This should be closer to the previous slider end. The reason is first of all to be closer to the ideal time distance equality. But even further than that, 00:26:947 (1) - should be emphasized more because of the strong guitar sound, and so in reality, 00:26:755 (4) should be an equal distance, if not FURTHER from 00:26:947 (1) than closer to it. //change , 00:26:947 (1) -is emphasize ,use DS
8. 00:27:909 (3,4,5) - Again, Personally prefer reverse slider here, fyi. //change~
9. 00:33:870 (4,5,6,7,1) - To be honest, this feels uncomfortable to play for me, probably because of the circular flow break at 7. If you can help it, I recommend improving this pattern. uhh... I will think about how to change it~
10. It feels like the distance between 00:37:909 (1,2) - is too short. I recommend placing slider 1 above 00:37:524 (8). This makes the sudden flow break between 8 and 1 less damaging, and puts more distance between 1 and 2. Something like this //change another style
11. The distance between 00:42:139 (4,1) - these two is too much. I recommend Highlighting 00:42:524 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - and pressing Ctrl H. It hurts the pattern later, but if you fix it later, I think it's worth it. //indeed , change it ,and some adjust it
12. I think it'd be easier to read if 00:46:562 (1,2) - was a triple instead. especially for a relatively easier difficulty like this. //I think it's fine...
13. why is 00:56:755 (2,3) - 2 circles and 00:53:678 (2) - 1 slider? I think you should make this part consistent, it's a pretty important part of the song (recommend you make 00:56:755 (2,3) 1 slider basically). Like this // uhh I think this one has 2 part I use 00:53:101 (1,2,3,4) - (1) and 00:56:178 (1,2,3,4) - is different part , try to avoid the same
14. You can keep 01:04:062 (1,2,3,4) - if you want, but I thought it was meh, so I played around with it and came up with this Also, I think it's cooler to add a curve into the next repetition of the chorus, instead of a straight stream for 01:04:831 (5,6,7,8,9,10) . As you can see in the url I last sent, you can see a glimpse of that curve... you can keep it straight if you want, since it's easier, but again, I think it's great for setting up the next repetition. //change~ use triangle
15. 01:06:370 (4,5,6) - Why is the distance between these so unbalanced?// bcz this one 01:06:178 (3) - I want symmetrical
16. I think 01:16:947 (3,4,5,6) - this pattern is too difficult for a difficulty like this. //umm... unchange
17. for these 01:19:832 (1,2) - you should press ctrl J. You were establishing a somewhat anti-clockwise circular flow with 01:17:909 (1,2,3,4,1,2), but you broke it with 01:19:832 (1,2). If you make 01:19:832 (1,2) upside down, you can keep this flow up. (Obviously the slider right afterwards doesn't really fit. If you want to make the change, keep in mind you have to change the stuff that comes right after it ofc.) //this one I think need else ideas ,if have any good ideas ,I will change this

CookieBite wrote:

kd pls

irc

2017-07-15 22:10 CookieBite: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1276748 Daisuke - Natsumeku Sakamichi [Easy]]
2017-07-15 22:10 leo16834: 我認為一定還可以更好 所以一直認真的找mod 可惜還沒有更資深的mod
2017-07-15 22:10 CookieBite: 00:55:601 (3) - 重音沒打到qaq
2017-07-15 22:11 CookieBite: 用arrow好浪費
2017-07-15 22:11 CookieBite: 不用會更好 像01:07:909 (3) - 
2017-07-15 22:12 leo16834: 自己做的 還真的沒注意到xdd
2017-07-15 22:12 leo16834: 好的 改用後面的作法 不過ds應該會調整很多

作者之前的狀態XDD

現在的狀態XDD

ts8zs wrote:

多余的红线不要 一条红线 -553 //真的沒有想過從負的開始 非常的謝謝您的指點!
Too many Finish //好像有點多，不過應該是還好，沒放在特別難的地方
[ONI]
00:00:216 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ddkkkk //改了
00:03:101 (13) - K //改了
00:04:447 (21,22) - dk // 改了 的確比較順手
00:08:870 (39) - K //改了 跟前面第一組對稱
00:26:755 (128,129) - dk //改了
00:43:486 (208) - k // 改了
01:10:986 (363,364) - del //刪除364那個點 363保留
01:16:947 (403) - K //測試了一下 我覺得可以 會找人測試這個地方 不行我會改回來
01:21:178 (434) - del //改了
01:23:678 (443) - K //改了
[MUZ]
00:08:486 (28,29,30) - kdk// 改了
00:43:678 (152) - k //改了 跟前面一樣的確比較好
01:13:101 (265) - k //這一顆我想一下 暫定先不會改

1. 00:01:947 (7) - Considering overall patterns, this should be k for consistency.
2. 00:02:716 (9,10) - Swap these for consistency with Oni's. I think, that would be more fit the music.
3. 00:10:216 (34) - You seems to forget adding finish here. for consistency with 00:04:062, It's necessary thing in my opinion.
4. 00:11:178 (37,38,39,40) - the melody seems similar to dk kd. How about changing like that?
5. 00:27:331 - Something seems to be missing. you could add note here for more natural feeling, in my opinion.
6. 00:31:370 (108) - 00:31:754 (110) - Swap these for cosnsistency with 00:18:677.
7. 00:34:447 (120,121,122) - In your mapping style, I think, these would be better using k k d to follow the vocal.
8. 00:37:139 (130,131,132,133) - Actually, 00:37:524 is more higher sound than previous triplet. so I think, ddd k would be better here.
9. 00:38:101 (135) - Similar as above. Comparing the pitch between 00:37:909 (134,135) notes, this kat doesn't fit the music, at least.
10. 00:40:024 (140,141,142,143,144) - How about changing to k k d d k to follow the vocal? It would be more match the music, in my opinion.
11. 00:40:986 (145) - Add finish?
12. 00:45:024 (156,157) - How about swapping these to emphasize higher sound?
13. 00:52:524 (181,182,183) - Remove these for naturally making a break. Instead, Adding two notes on 00:51:947 to follow strong sounds may be helpful to overall.
14. 00:54:639 (190,191) - 00:57:716 (202,203) - Similar pitch, different pattern. In these things, second one is actually lower pitch than first one.
15. 01:01:755 (217) - 01:02:524 (220) - Current pattern seems a bit weird. How about moving these by 1/2 forward?
16. 01:18:870 (283,284) - Swap these?
18. 01:19:832 (287,288,289,290,291,292) - How about changing this like as 01:19:832? Current pattern make long patterns as result.
    01:23:678 (302) - K for consistency with Oni's.

1. Some parts have high density compared to Muzukashii. It's needed to make more simple, in my opinion.
   1. from 00:10:216 to 00:13:293
   2. from 01:02:523 to 01:08:485
   3. from 01:11:754 to 01:14:831
   4. from 01:17:908 to 01:20:985
2. 00:00:216 (1,2,3,4) - Considering Muzu's pattern, this should be kkdd for consistency.
3. 00:04:447 (22,23) - Swap these to follow vocal.
4. 00:15:216 (82) - Same reason as 00:00:216. change to D.
5. 00:27:139 (130,131,132,133,134,135) - It's definitely over-mapped. Actually, 00:27:139 (130,131) and 00:27:620 (134) are not matched to any sounds.
6. 00:34:639 (171) - Move by 1/2 forward and change to k. It would be better, in my opinion.
7. 00:35:023 (172) - 00:35:409 (174) - Swap these to follow vocal.
8. 00:35:793 (175,176) - How about making this triplet instead of 00:36:562? there is more certain sound to put triplet here.
9. 00:40:985 - Even though you mapped using 1/2 notes, It's relatively high density compared to the pattern from 00:44:062 to 00:46:754. so It seems to be necessary removing some notes.
10. 00:47:139 (226) - 00:47:909 (231) - Remove these. As result, It will help to keep a specific feeling.
11. 00:55:216 (272) - Move by 1/2 forward?
12. 00:57:716 (285,286) - are these finisher really necessary? I think, these should be normal circles because there is nothing to emphasize.
13. 01:15:986 (399) - Moving to 01:16:370 would be more natural to play, in my opinion.

1. This being the top diff means player does not expect that rhythms are simplified. That means if you map a particular sound in the music, the identical sounds after that should be mapped as well unless there is a specific reason for why they are not mapped and these reasons include something like emphasis, relative density stuff, etc. For example if you map the snare triplets in the kiai part you should map all other snare triplets as well. With the triples you have right now 00:53:869 (3) - is skipped, 00:55:408 (2,3,4) - isn't, 00:56:946 (3,4) - is, and 00:57:811 (8) - is just overmapped.
2. Remember the part that I say the vocals and the instruments are off-sync? 00:53:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - is a mess right now imo because you're trying to follow both of them without prioritizing one over the other. In my point of view breaking down 00:53:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - will be something like 00:53:100 (1) - is mapped to the 'tai' and the cymbal crash with the snares being skipped, 00:53:677 (2,3,4,5,6) - are mapped to the vocals with a random slider 00:54:062 (4) - for some reason, and 00:54:831 (1) - is mapped to the 'ding' sound thing idk then the snare triple at 00:55:408 (2,3,4) - and lastly return to mapping to the vocals at 00:55:792 (5,6,1) - . Probably the stuff that make this part a but messy are random slider at 00:54:062 (4) - , the weird shift to the ding thing at 00:54:831 (1) - while also skipping both the kick and the vocal on the red tick and the overmapped stuff at 00:57:715 (7,8,1) - . imo the best rhythm should be something like http://puu.sh/wPlXL/202cd8e856.jpg or if you want something more inclined to the instrumental part just map the snare triples.
3. 01:06:754 (6,7) - I know that this is mapped to the 'kose' vocal but this seems on whim and out of place. When you're mapping you also need to consider if this pattern/rhythm fits well with the rest of the map. This, for example, is surrounded by 1/2 rhythm and also 01:09:831 (6) - which is pretty much the same is mapped with a circle as well. There are some other questionable kicksliders but i will leave those to your discretion i guess

1. If the song is calmer or is more intense in particular parts, should the map. Keep this sentence in mind while mapping. For example this part 00:40:985 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - should be relatively easy because of the calmer music but you seem to map it otherwise xd.
2. Spacing should be done according to the intensity. For example 00:14:831 (1) - seems like an important beat so it should be spaced more but comparing 00:14:446 (7,8,1) - yields a weird result. The same goes for stuff like 00:53:100 (1) - 00:56:177 (1) - etc.
3. Also important beats and/or beats that you're mainly following should be mapped with an active note (sliderhead / circle). The melody and the cymbal crashes on 01:16:177 (5) - 00:02:331 (1) - seem really important to the music so it should be mapped with an active note etc.

• Note: Currently the mapping community's opinion is kinda split on this matter. Some say it's important and some don't give a fuck about it.

1. Self explanatory tbh.
2. 00:55:408 (2,3,4) - 00:58:485 (2,3) - there is no reason to map the same sound with different rhythms. It just doesn't make sense lol
3. 00:23:677 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 00:17:908 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - being really similar in intensity-wise so there shouldn't be this huge difference in spacing
   etc.etc.

Sylphi wrote:

Sorry for being late. //Never mind. You are willing to see my map ,I really happy!

No answer is means fixed

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:01:947 (7) - Considering overall patterns, this should be k for consistency.
2. 00:02:716 (9,10) - Swap these for consistency with Oni's. I think, that would be more fit the music.
3. 00:10:216 (34) - You seems to forget adding finish here. for consistency with 00:04:062, It's necessary thing in my opinion.
4. 00:11:178 (37,38,39,40) - the melody seems similar to dk kd. How about changing like that?
5. 00:27:331 - Something seems to be missing. you could add note here for more natural feeling, in my opinion.
6. 00:31:370 (108) - 00:31:754 (110) - Swap these for cosnsistency with 00:18:677.
7. 00:34:447 (120,121,122) - In your mapping style, I think, these would be better using k k d to follow the vocal.
8. 00:37:139 (130,131,132,133) - Actually, 00:37:524 is more higher sound than previous triplet. so I think, ddd k would be better here.
9. 00:38:101 (135) - Similar as above. Comparing the pitch between 00:37:909 (134,135) notes, this kat doesn't fit the music, at least. //This one , on oni I put ddk d d ,this I change d k for this , I think this put the triplet is hard.
10. 00:40:024 (140,141,142,143,144) - How about changing to k k d d k to follow the vocal? It would be more match the music, in my opinion.
11. 00:40:986 (145) - Add finish?
12. 00:45:024 (156,157) - How about swapping these to emphasize higher sound?
13. 00:52:524 (181,182,183) - Remove these for naturally making a break. Instead, Adding two notes on 00:51:947 to follow strong sounds may be helpful to overall. //I try to remove 181 182 183 ,but I think no beat has strange , I didn't delete this one , however , I add two note on 00:51:947 -
14. 00:54:639 (190,191) - 00:57:716 (202,203) - Similar pitch, different pattern. In these things, second one is actually lower pitch than first one.
15. 01:01:755 (217) - 01:02:524 (220) - Current pattern seems a bit weird. How about moving these by 1/2 forward?
16. 01:18:870 (283,284) - Swap these?
18. 01:19:832 (287,288,289,290,291,292) - How about changing this like as 01:19:832? Current pattern make long patterns as result.
    01:23:678 (302) - K for consistency with Oni's.

[Oni]

1. Some parts have high density compared to Muzukashii. It's needed to make more simple, in my opinion.
   1. from 00:10:216 to 00:13:293
   2. from 01:02:523 to 01:08:485
   3. from 01:11:754 to 01:14:831
   4. from 01:17:908 to 01:20:985
   // those part I delete some note , but is not big chamge essentially
2. 00:00:216 (1,2,3,4) - Considering Muzu's pattern, this should be kkdd for consistency. //I find this one that I follow piano voice , so I change muzu part (d k k)
3. 00:04:447 (22,23) - Swap these to follow vocal.
4. 00:15:216 (82) - Same reason as 00:00:216. change to D.
5. 00:27:139 (130,131,132,133,134,135) - It's definitely over-mapped. Actually, 00:27:139 (130,131) and 00:27:620 (134) are not matched to any sounds. //this part that I think not change. Bcz this part 00:27:909 (138) -to 00:28:485 (144) - 7 note has some guide to hit it ,
6. 00:34:639 (171) - Move by 1/2 forward and change to k. It would be better, in my opinion.
7. 00:35:023 (172) - 00:35:409 (174) - Swap these to follow vocal.
8. 00:35:793 (175,176) - How about making this triplet instead of 00:36:562? there is more certain sound to put triplet here.
9. 00:40:985 - Even though you mapped using 1/2 notes, It's relatively high density compared to the pattern from 00:44:062 to 00:46:754. so It seems to be necessary removing some notes. // This part not change temporarily , I think this part I test single note to hit skill continuously
10. 00:47:139 (226) - 00:47:909 (231) - Remove these. As result, It will help to keep a specific feeling. // I only remove 00:47:908 -
11. 00:55:216 (272) - Move by 1/2 forward?
12. 00:57:716 (285,286) - are these finisher really necessary? I think, these should be normal circles because there is nothing to emphasize.
13. 01:15:986 (399) - Moving to 01:16:370 would be more natural to play, in my opinion. //this I think not bcz 01:16:177 (404,405,406) - has big note to emphasize ,add note on 01:16:370 I feel some strange

CrystilonZ wrote:

From q
late af

poor song choice tbh. Don't get me wrong the music is good but from the drum being so freaking off at spots like 00:09:446 (1,2,3,4) - and how the vocals and the instrumental stuff being so off sync in the kiai so yea it's not easy to map lmao
also keep the vocals-instruments being off sync in mind cuz that's related to the mod

anyway, top diff only.
and I'm bad at writing essays so xd don't expect much

[Rhythm Choice]
This is obvious but firstly do not make your own stuff up lmao. Just follow the sounds in the music and you'll be good. Stuff like 00:06:177 (9,1,2) - are not very acceptable. Also, do not overmap stuff like 01:05:311 (11) - . Though it's easier to map and may be more fun to play in some people's eyes but keep in mind that these do not follow the music properly. There are reasons why we call these beatmaps you know xd

With the most basic stuff being said these are the more advance stuff:

1. This being the top diff means player does not expect that rhythms are simplified. That means if you map a particular sound in the music, the identical sounds after that should be mapped as well unless there is a specific reason for why they are not mapped and these reasons include something like emphasis, relative density stuff, etc. For example if you map the snare triplets in the kiai part you should map all other snare triplets as well. With the triples you have right now 00:53:869 (3) - is skipped, 00:55:408 (2,3,4) - isn't, 00:56:946 (3,4) - is, and 00:57:811 (8) - is just overmapped.
2. Remember the part that I say the vocals and the instruments are off-sync? 00:53:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - is a mess right now imo because you're trying to follow both of them without prioritizing one over the other. In my point of view breaking down 00:53:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - will be something like 00:53:100 (1) - is mapped to the 'tai' and the cymbal crash with the snares being skipped, 00:53:677 (2,3,4,5,6) - are mapped to the vocals with a random slider 00:54:062 (4) - for some reason, and 00:54:831 (1) - is mapped to the 'ding' sound thing idk then the snare triple at 00:55:408 (2,3,4) - and lastly return to mapping to the vocals at 00:55:792 (5,6,1) - . Probably the stuff that make this part a but messy are random slider at 00:54:062 (4) - , the weird shift to the ding thing at 00:54:831 (1) - while also skipping both the kick and the vocal on the red tick and the overmapped stuff at 00:57:715 (7,8,1) - . imo the best rhythm should be something like http://puu.sh/wPlXL/202cd8e856.jpg or if you want something more inclined to the instrumental part just map the snare triples.
3. 01:06:754 (6,7) - I know that this is mapped to the 'kose' vocal but this seems on whim and out of place. When you're mapping you also need to consider if this pattern/rhythm fits well with the rest of the map. This, for example, is surrounded by 1/2 rhythm and also 01:09:831 (6) - which is pretty much the same is mapped with a circle as well. There are some other questionable kicksliders but i will leave those to your discretion i guess

[Emphasis / Relative Intensity]

1. If the song is calmer or is more intense in particular parts, should the map. Keep this sentence in mind while mapping. For example this part 00:40:985 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - should be relatively easy because of the calmer music but you seem to map it otherwise xd.
2. Spacing should be done according to the intensity. For example 00:14:831 (1) - seems like an important beat so it should be spaced more but comparing 00:14:446 (7,8,1) - yields a weird result. The same goes for stuff like 00:53:100 (1) - 00:56:177 (1) - etc.
3. Also important beats and/or beats that you're mainly following should be mapped with an active note (sliderhead / circle). The melody and the cymbal crashes on 01:16:177 (5) - 00:02:331 (1) - seem really important to the music so it should be mapped with an active note etc.

[Consistency]

• Note: Currently the mapping community's opinion is kinda split on this matter. Some say it's important and some don't give a fuck about it.

1. Self explanatory tbh.
2. 00:55:408 (2,3,4) - 00:58:485 (2,3) - there is no reason to map the same sound with different rhythms. It just doesn't make sense lol
3. 00:23:677 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 00:17:908 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - being really similar in intensity-wise so there shouldn't be this huge difference in spacing
   etc.etc.

I kinda generalize stuff lol. There are exceptions to these stuff but ya if you don't have any reason to not follow these stuff just follow them.
Examples are examples; I didn't highlight everything in your map so apply them as you like

GL GL

Nyan wrote:

[General]

Fix the Slider Velocity!

SliderMultiplier:1.39999976287843 -> 1.4 (Muzukashii) //Fixed
SliderMultiplier:1.3999999666214 -> 1.4 (Oni) //Fixed

[Muzukashii]

00:15:216 (53) - remove Finish //Fixed
01:13:293 (268) - add Finish //Fixed

[Oni]

00:35:600 - add a don //I think not bcz this I focus vocal
00:47:716 (234) - add Finish //Fixed
00:55:216 - add a kat //Umm not change here
01:21:562 (437,438,439,440,441) - remove Finish to give a point for 01:22:524 (442,443,444,445)//Fixed

- titan wrote:

hi, from my queue

SPOILER

Easy
00:04:062 (1) - move the first white anchor up and to the right a bit, this looks messy //fixed
00:20:216 (2,3) - fix this blanket //use ctrl+g to check it , fixed
00:30:986 (3,4) - this doesn't flow well. would be better if you moved (4) down imo. //silder 4 down and overlap 00:30:985 (3,5) -
01:11:755 (1,2) - make the slider neater to blanket better and also just to look better. //fixed
01:14:832 (1) - i don't think putting a spinner here is a good idea //I think this one that has long vocal , I try to put some note on here , but I think spinner is better than put note , so I keep it

Wishes
lower hp because it's hard to clear, and also a higher od would be better for the spread //well~ OK HP down to 6.5
00:07:523 (2,3,4) - fix the blankets //fixed
00:22:138 (6,1) - a partial overlap would look better imo //move silder 6 down
00:56:177 (1) - this slider looks messy. add some more white anchors to make it smoother! //this one I follow vocal. but~ change some style~

nice map//Thanks~

jack1817 wrote:

IRC mod

17:37 leo16834: 對了 你可以玩玩看我這張太鼓嗎xdd 想要聽你的感覺
17:37 jack1817: 好啊
17:38 *leo16834 is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1261513 Daisuke - Natsumeku Sakamichi]
17:41 leo16834: 哇xd
17:41 jack1817: 玩的好像沒有什麼問題
17:41 jack1817: 除了一開始
17:41 leo16834: 鋼琴那部分嗎
17:42 jack1817: 還有頭部分，不知為何，玩的時候我對沒有跟鼓聲而跟melody感到疑惑
17:42 jack1817: 可能是我個人問題吧XD
17:43 jack1817: 00:04:447 (22,23,24,25,26) - 
17:44 leo16834: 喔~ 這個啊 因為是挑最大聲的聲音跟的 全跟我覺得不太友善 才剛開始 盡量少一點
17:44 jack1817: 好啊，我玩的時候也沒有問題，所以keep吧:P
17:46 leo16834: 有想要拿kds嗎xdd
17:47 jack1817: 我在玩下其他難度
17:47 leo16834: OK 我看你玩xd
17:51 *jack1817 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1283691 Daisuke - Natsumeku Sakamichi [Insane]]
17:51 jack1817: 00:42:523 (1,2,3,4) - 
17:51 jack1817: 感覺這個可以map的跟前面類似
17:52 leo16834: 跟前面那組綠色的吧 我試試看
17:52 jack1817: 對
17:52 leo16834: OK
17:53 leo16834: 修一下
17:53 jack1817: 01:17:908 (1,2,3,4) - flow 好像有點奇怪
17:53 jack1817: 尤其接到 01:19:446 (1,2,1,2) - 的時候
17:54 leo16834: 這個地方的確困擾很久了 我有想要re掉這個地方
17:56 leo16834: 其實你玩的這個難度 我是有想要整張重做 因為當初做太敢了
17:58 jack1817: 啊
17:58 jack1817: 有什麼難度特別要看嗎?
17:59 leo16834: 看你想要看什麼難度xd 我很自由的
18:00 *jack1817 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1276748 Daisuke - Natsumeku Sakamichi [Easy]]
18:01 jack1817: 00:16:370 (1,2,3) - 感覺要改的更美
18:02 leo16834: 恩 OK小小條依下
18:02 jack1817: 並使得00:17:909 (3,4) - 接的更好
18:03 leo16834: OK
18:03 jack1817: 00:30:216 (2,3) - 可以用之前的slider,不需做一個新的
18:03 jack1817: 00:11:755 (3) - 用這個
18:04 leo16834: 好 我改一下
18:05 leo16834: 我先小小的暫離一下 馬上回來~ 我會馬上回來確認
18:05 jack1817: 好
18:05 leo16834: 弄完可以 可以直接貼在論壇 我會馬上給~
18:06 jack1817: 那我現在發，還是？
18:07 jack1817: 01:07:909 (3,1) - 對新手不太好的flow
18:07 jack1817: 01:14:831 (1) - 在下一個red tick結束
18:17 jack1817: 我先mod這些難度，然後再forum mod 其他吧

我稍後再forum mod 其他吧,請等一等

1. Few spots where NC could be changed but I'm not going to mention them in this post as patterns may change.
2. OD7 seems a bit low for a 5 SR difficulty.