solfa feat.Misato Aki - "Remizera!" ShortVer. [Osu|Taiko]‬ · forum‬

QuL_kuluru

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QuL_kuluru 8 years ago

Need Mod??

Shunao

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Shunao 8 years ago

QuL_kuluru wrote:
Need Mod??

Yes!~

Aeril

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Aeril 8 years ago

nice garden diff

[Hard]

00:00:335 (1,2,3,4) - this irritates my ears so much... 00:00:497 (2,3) - then end of two and start of 3 are the same note so i think it would be better as 2 hit circles then 2 sliders instead of what it is now.
00:01:470 (1,2,3) - and this one as hit circle then two sliders. applies to the rest of them throughout this entire beginning for the same reasoning as the first.
00:42:983 (5,1) - switch the nc here as theyre of the same pattern/rhythm.
01:15:578 (1) - really lame rhythm for the climax of the song, i think a 1/1 slider then 1/2 slider would be better here. also wouldnt have the cymbal on the slider end.
01:16:713 (1) - yea same here, though i would probably do a 1/1 slider then another hit circle.
01:25:956 (1) - 01:28:551 (1) - i think that these fit in well where they are though compared to the other two.
01:50:443 (5) - nc for emphasis if u want.

[Normal]

01:16:713 (3) - think you should shorten this back to the white tick and add a hit circle, kinda underwhelming as it is right now and skips alot of beat
good diff, i like it

[Easy]

01:09:091 (3,4) - i think this should change to a 2/1 slider and 01:11:686 (3) - this to a 1/1 and a hit circle as the previous has no vocals come up but the latter has a vocal note in the middle of it.
the previous thing also occurs at 01:19:470 (3,4) - 01:22:064 (3) -
01:33:091 (5,6) - possibly change this to a 1/1 slider so that rhythm density in this place is slightly lower than normal?

cool

Celektus

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Celektus 8 years ago

you requested me to Hitsound your hard diff tho have you tried Hitsound copier and just mapping the intro in the Insane too? p/4390738

*edit don't giv dis kds

Shunao

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Shunao 8 years ago

Aeril wrote:
nice garden diff
[Hard]
00:00:335 (1,2,3,4) - this irritates my ears so much... 00:00:497 (2,3) - then end of two and start of 3 are the same note so i think it would be better as 2 hit circles then 2 sliders instead of what it is now.
00:01:470 (1,2,3) - and this one as hit circle then two sliders. applies to the rest of them throughout this entire beginning for the same reasoning as the first. it's not a problem because the sounds start here 00:06:659 (1) - i prefer emphasis with 1/2 sliders it's better to follow
00:42:983 (5,1) - switch the nc here as theyre of the same pattern/rhythm.
01:15:578 (1) - really lame rhythm for the climax of the song, i think a 1/1 slider then 1/2 slider would be better here. also wouldnt have the cymbal on the slider end. i wanted to emphasis the guitar sounds with long sliders
01:16:713 (1) - yea same here, though i would probably do a 1/1 slider then another hit circle. ^
01:25:956 (1) - 01:28:551 (1) - i think that these fit in well where they are though compared to the other two.
01:50:443 (5) - nc for emphasis if u want.
[Normal]
01:16:713 (3) - think you should shorten this back to the white tick and add a hit circle, kinda underwhelming as it is right now and skips alot of beat no because i fix this, the chain should be too long 01:16:713 (3,4,5,1,2,3)
good diff, i like it Thanks!
[Easy]
01:09:091 (3,4) - i think this should change to a 2/1 slider and 01:11:686 (3) - this to a 1/1 and a hit circle as the previous has no vocals come up but the latter has a vocal note in the middle of it. i make a long slider because i want to emphasis the music 01:22:064 (3) - and here it's for the rythm no for the vocals
the previous thing also occurs at 01:19:470 (3,4) - 01:22:064 (3) - ^
01:33:091 (5,6) - possibly change this to a 1/1 slider so that rhythm density in this place is slightly lower than normal?
cool

Thanks for modding!!~

Shunao

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Shunao 8 years ago

Celektus wrote:
you requested me to Hitsound your hard diff tho have you tried Hitsound copier and just mapping the intro in the Insane too? p/4390738

*edit don't giv dis kds

I just wanted a nm c':

Celektus

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Joined April 2014

Celektus 8 years ago

[Normal]

some of these suggestions on Hitsounds should be done on every diff

there is no Snare on this slider end 00:23:199 - use a drum-whistle instead of a clap same here 00:32:767 (1) - and in most of the other places where you might be able to hear a open hi hat
you only added a finish here 00:39:253 (1) - even though there are one here too 00:39:740 - 00:40:389 - here too 01:06:983 - overall you could've added some more finishes than you did the song just has more
you could add drum-claps here instead 00:53:524 (3,4,5) - as those represent tom drums better same here and maybe in some other places 01:05:199 (1,2) -
you could add a finish or drum-whistle here 01:34:875 - as there is this cymbal sound at the end
my last suggestion is more like some subjective feedback for future maps. Your kiai has denser rhythm than you early sections which make the kiai less intense in some way if you can maybe try to make less intense sections in even your lower diffs less dense so the more intense sections represent the songs intensity better.

No need to re map this now just take this however you want

[Hard]

I think you should map this clap sound passively 00:01:307 - to me that seems important enough to the song to map with a slider end or repeat slider and it's also kinda weird since you Hitsounded the claps in this case. I'd recommend a rhythm like this

same with this slider 00:02:443 (1) - you can easily make this into a repeat slider without taking away emphasis on the guitar sounds
this is the first 1/2 stack in the map 00:12:983 (8,9) - and It doesn't seem like there is any reason for it being the way it is. For hard players it can be irritating to have 1/2 be represented in different ways in the same section without a specific reason behind it. you should make the 2 notes spaced out like the rest, you might wanna make a star shape with these 00:12:497 (7,8,9,1) - but there are ofc other ways to make this look good or whatever.

this goes for every 1/2 stack you have in the map. stay consistent with using either stacked or spaced out 1/2, more complex and inconsistent ways of handling stacks belong to Extras or complex to read sets.
if you can try and make the reverse arrow not overlapped at all 00:47:362 (2) - I know it's not really breaking any rules yet, but making it less obscured can always be an improvement I think.
it's kinda weird to map nearly 2/3 of the song with only simple shapes, then add 2 totally different ones without any reason and switching back to normal ones 01:15:578 (1,3) - y lol?
same as I mentioned before stacks like this are kinda hard to read for players of this level as you established 1/2 to be nearly exclusively to be not stacked 01:33:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here the song kinda justifies it and you at least kinda introduced it before even if it's not really done well. My point still applies here tho. You should try to make these spaced out I think and if that seems to intense for arguably the most intense part in the song consider making them 1/2 sliders or anything else but stacks

and it's even more confusing if you you the first 1/1 stack in the map right after that then 01:36:010 (7,1) - I would make 7 spaced apart from 1 in this case.

[Garden's Insane]

I think these 2 should be spaced the same 00:10:389 (1,1) - 00:12:983 (7,1) - as both sounds seem equally as strong. I would check each instance of those parts.
wouldn't a extended slider fit here too? 00:23:199 (1,1) -
seems a bit sketchy to me to mix 1/1, 1/2 and 1/4 stacks in one section 00:25:794 (3,4) - this diff is kinda going into the direction of Extra though I think you might still wanna make at least on of the 3 different like the 1/4. or the 1/2 as you mix between stacked and not stacked a bit 00:27:091 (4,5,6) -

I do like how you use them tho tbh xD

Last edited by Celektus 8 years ago, edited 1 time in total.

Suisei Hosimati

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Suisei Hosimati 8 years ago

Placehold and i'll mod this when i came back from Shanghai

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Easy
00:00:335 - 00:10:389 - It is disqualified unless Hitsound is attached for more than 10 seconds (It applies to all difficulty except Garden and taiko)
00:00:335 (1) - It is easier for beginners to start with 00:00:659 -
You pick up the sound of the guitar, but that sounds difficult for beginners to understand
00:03:416 - Why are not you picking up the sound here?
You are picking up the sound at 00:00:821 - here
00:06:010 - 00:08:605 - ^
00:10:713 (1,1) - You can avoid this overlap

img

00:19:307 (2) - Why did you decide on this place?
I would do X: 105 Y: 3
01:02:605 (1,3) - Avoid stack
Beginners are very confused because (3) is visible from the middle of (1)
01:07:307 (3) - Why did you suddenly pick up the lyrics?
Let's make it Circle to avoid 1/2 slider 01:07:470 - There is no sound
01:18:172 (1) - 01:16:389 (2) - I think I should stack here
01:33:091 (5) - Why did you just leave the distance 1.00?
01:34:875 - I think this is the end of Kiai
01:44:118 (1,1) - stack miss?

Normal
00:05:199 (5,6) - I think that 1/2 slider is good
00:09:253 (3,1) - Why are you stacking downbeat?
00:09:253 (3) - I think that it is better to erase if only stack can do it
00:28:551 (6) - Let's make a circle and leave a gap of 1/1 beat
00:29:848 - Why ignore the sound? 00:29:686 (2) - Let's shift this sound
00:31:956 - If you mapping you should pick up the sound here
00:40:713 (3,4,5,6) - Is it not possible to reverse the 1/2 slider?
00:46:875 (5,1) - 00:09:253 (3,1) - same
00:52:389 (6,1) - Why suddenly pick up the lyrics?
This is so strange that you decide whether to pick up the lyrics or pick up the guitar
00:53:524 (3) - There is no need to use 1/2 slider
01:02:280 - Are not you picking up the sound?
01:02:443 (1) - This is wrong
01:02:605 - You should start from here
01:07:470 (5) - delete (easy same)
01:08:929 (4) - You should not pick up lyrics 01:09:091 - Here is a strong sound
01:11:524 (4) - 01:19:307 (4) - 01:21:902 (4) - ^
01:16:713 (3) - I think that this slider may be slightly shortened
01:21:902 (4,1) - overlap

Hard
00:10:064 - Think of it as three successive hits from here
00:11:848 (5) - Add NC
00:14:443 (5) - 00:17:037 (5) - 00:19:632 (5) - 00:22:064 (3) - ^
You are using NC extensively from 00:00:335 (1) - to 00:10:551 -
00:27:416 (4,8,9,1) - stack miss?
00:48:010 (4) - Why are you using Slider Reverse?
This sounds very strange. please fix this
00:49:307 (3,4) - Why Distance 1.30? 00:48:983 (1,2,3) - This is Distance 1.40
00:58:389 (4) - 00:48:010 (4) - same
01:15:902 - You should not ignore this sound
01:17:037 - 01:26:280 - 01:28:875 - ^
01:36:334 (1) - remove NC (Just like Normal)
01:37:470 (5) - 01:40:064 (5) - 01:42:658 (5) - 01:45:253 (5) - 01:47:685 (3) - Add NC

Garden's Insane
00:15:902 (1,2) - How about changing this to a slider? (00:10:713 (1,1,1) - just like here)
Good map!

Good luck!

Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Kaifin 8 years ago

hot anime babes

Easy

your rhythm at the start makes sense just had to think about it for a bit
00:04:064 (2,1) - these two are not parallel, which means they are different angles! though its a small thing its worth fixing, it'll make your map look a lot better subconsciously
00:05:686 (1,3) - these are also not the same angle, in a pattern that suggests that they are
there seems to be a lot of patterns like this throughout the map, consider going through and trying to make each set of patterns that is arranged to look parallel actually parallel via copy and pasting
00:34:064 (1,2) - can you put just a little bit more space between these two objects so it's not so cramped? like so
SPOILER
00:35:362 (3) - consider making this a curved slider, it looks really out of place/like it doesn't belong because you make a pattern of two with 00:34:064 (1,2) - and then it's just kind of tacked on the side
01:02:605 (1,2,3) - okay this will literally melt the easy player's mind, overlaps come out of nowhere and are super super confusing for noob player, 01:03:578 (2) - is okay on its own but 01:03:902 (3) - is definitely an issue, would recommend you rework this pattern to be less confusing
01:16:713 (3,1) - this pattern is fine vs the one above, because there is enough time/the body of the sliders arent as overlapped just for reference
01:33:740 (1,2,3) - this kind of flow is very very confusing to new players because they have trouble differentiating between the heads and tails of sliders, maybe try a pattern like this?
SPOILER

other than the parallel stuff pretty solid easy, maybe a bit on the circles for this bpm in the chorus but its low SR so doesn't really matter tbh

Normal

01:43:794 (6,1) - distance snap

solid diff no other suggestions

Hard

00:09:253 (4,1) - be careful with this placement, it's almost a hidden repeat
00:22:875 (5,6) - consider nerfing this distance a bit, since theres such a large gap between 00:22:551 (4,5) - it could be confused for 1/1 as well
00:48:010 (4) - imo it would better if you removed this repeat and made 00:48:334 - a circle because the vocal starts there and is strongest on that note, you'd have to do it for all 4 patterns if you do though

feels weird that the garden diff doesn't start at the same time as all the other ones, it's really solid though

nice set good luck! check your parallels and stuff cause i feel like a lot of them in your diffs are off

-Nya-

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-Nya- 8 years ago

Hi, from queue.

General:

Apparently there is one soundfile that has a delay which is unrankable. The soft-hitclap. Either try removing the delay or find a similar file that doesn’t have a delay.

Garden’s Insane:

00:09:740 (3,4,5,6,7,8) – While testplaying, this pattern was quite difficult for me to catch because of the big jumps. I’m reffering to the jumps here: 00:09:740 (3,4) – and here: 00:09:902 (4,5) – Jumps for ¼ rhythms like these aren’t uncommon but the spacings are just too big for an Insane imo. These kind of jumps are more characteristic of an Extra. I suggest decreasing the spacings of those two jumps just a bit.
00:11:848 (1,2) – I suggest increasing the spacing here a bit since there’s quite a strong beat on 00:12:334 (2) – It’s also to be consistent with similar beats like 00:11:037 (2) - 00:11:686 (5) –
00:14:929 (2) - ^
00:18:172 (7,1) – The spacing here differs quite a bit from the spacing here: 00:12:983 (7,1) – which is inconsistent since the beats are similar. I suggest making the spacing similar to keep similar beats’ spacings the same.
00:27:091 (4,5,6) – Make the spacings of these three objects similar to make the pattern look more tidy. Like this:
Picture
00:33:253 (1,1) – Misuse of new combo’s here imo. There isn’t really anything in the music to suggest two new combo’s. Players would still be able to read the pattern fine without the new combo’s. Rather remove both.
00:33:253 (1,3) – This overlap don’t look good tbh. Either move the (3), (4), (1) so they are overlapping half of 00:33:253 (1) – or stack them on top of 00:33:253 (1) – Like this for the first suggestion:
Picture
Personally I still feel stacking would be better though.
00:37:470 (4,3,4,5) – Same thing here. I suggest rather stacking.
00:39:740 (3,4) – Increase the spacing here a bit more to be more similar to 00:39:253 (1,2) – otherwise it looks quite inconsistent since both objects have the same beat. You can try moving (4) a bit to the right.
00:40:389 (1) – Are you sure of this shape? A normal curved slider would fit better imo for a nicer blanket with 00:39:740 (3) –
00:41:524 (5) – Move the tail of this slider down a bit so it’s more parallel with 00:41:199 (3) –
00:43:956 (3) – I think a new combo is needed here too to be consistent with 00:42:983 (1,1,1) – I think the new combo’s isn’t really needed on the one hand but on the other hand I understand that there may be readibility issues.
01:10:875 (2,1) – Improve the stack here.
01:17:524 (1,2,3) – Again, these are quite big jumps for an Insane. They fit in better with an Extra. Rather nerf the jumps a bit.
01:36:010 (1) –I think someone already pointed this out, but this object is a bit off-screen. Just lift it upwards a tiny bit and it should be fine.

Hard:

From 00:00:335 (1) – to 00:10:551 (4) – You didn’t hitsound this section at all. I think it’s really important that feedback should be given here. There are places where you can place hitsounds. Like: 00:00:821 (3) – (clap) 00:02:118 (3) – (clap) etc. This applies to the other diffs too.
00:00:335 (1,4) – Make these two objects parallel to each other to make the pattern look neater. Like this:
Picture
00:09:253 (4,1) – This overlap don’t look that good at all. A blanket or something that avoids that overlap would be much better.
Picture
00:23:199 (6) – There’s a cymbal sound in the background here. Place a finish here to emphasize that. You can take a look at what Garden did in his diff.
00:24:821 (4,6) – Avoid overlaps like this. It really doesn’t look good. Rather space it out and avoid it touching something. Like this:
Picture
00:39:253 (1) – A finish should be placed on the head of this slider since there’s a clear cymbal sound in the background.
00:39:740 (3) -^
01:16:713 (1) – Remove new combo here for consistency since new combo is added every second measure.

The biggest stuff that can be improved is the neatness of the diff (the look) as well as the hitsounds (especially the finishes since there’s a lot of places where finishes can be added) I’ll point out a few places that can look tidier, reffering to unnecessary overlaps: 00:26:280 (1,4) - 00:27:416 (4,8,9,1) - 00:28:875 (1,1) - 00:47:037 (1,2) – These are the overlaps that bothered me the most. Tidying up these sections will make the diff look much better. For the hitsounds I suggest taking a look at Garden’s diff. The hitsound advice applies to the other diffs too.

Normal:

00:09:416 (1) – Remove this new combo to be consistent with the previous NC’ing patterns.
00:18:497 (1,2) – Not the best flow tbh since both objects goes straight so the flow can get awkward. Rather try something like this instead:
Picture
00:56:605 (4) – This pattern isn’t really following the music that well since there’s an important beat here too: 00:56:767 – Rather try something like this:
Picture
01:07:307 (4,5) – Replacing these two circles with a short slider would be better imo since beginners might be able to catch the rhythm easier with a slider than with two circles. Because catching two vocals with circles isn’t that easy.
01:36:010 (1) – Either remove new combo here or add new combo here: 01:36:334 (2) – because 01:36:334 (2) – should start on a new combo since it’s a new section of the song.

Easy:

The slider velocity is quite high for an Easy. I realized you have the same SV for Easy and Normal which I don’t advise since the Easy should be much easier for beginners. A SV like 0.8x would work much better.
01:10:064 (5,3) – Rather try to avoid this overlap to make this pattern neater.
Picture
You can change the shape of the slider but the placement is better.

Good Luck~

Shunao

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Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

Yasaija

Yasaija 714 wrote:
Easy
00:00:335 - 00:10:389 - It is disqualified unless Hitsound is attached for more than 10 seconds (It applies to all difficulty except Garden and taiko)
00:00:335 (1) - It is easier for beginners to start with 00:00:659 - but music start on the timing point :/
You pick up the sound of the guitar, but that sounds difficult for beginners to understand cause long slider can emphasis guitar sound, it's sound good imo
00:03:416 - Why are not you picking up the sound here?
You are picking up the sound at 00:00:821 - here yes because in the beginning i wanted to make a note on the red timing point for emphasis better but after there is a sound here 00:00:497 - so i couldn't add a slider (it's unrankable) so i decided to make a slider renverse like that it begins from the beginning and it emphasis the guitar at the same time.
00:06:010 - 00:08:605 - ^ ^^^
00:10:713 (1,1) - You can avoid this overlap It's not annoying because we don't see it when we play

00:19:307 (2) - Why did you decide on this place?
I would do X: 105 Y: 3 like this it's touch the drain bar so i lowered it a little more
01:02:605 (1,3) - Avoid stack it's readable because there is a long slider, the time to cross it we can see the note
Beginners are very confused because (3) is visible from the middle of (1)
01:07:307 (3) - Why did you suddenly pick up the lyrics? because at this moment the vocals are strong
Let's make it Circle to avoid 1/2 slider 01:07:470 - There is no sound
01:18:172 (1) - 01:16:389 (2) - I think I should stack here no thanks
01:33:091 (5) - Why did you just leave the distance 1.00?
01:34:875 - I think this is the end of Kiai no the real sound of the music is here 01:35:037
01:44:118 (1,1) - stack miss?

Normal
00:05:199 (5,6) - I think that 1/2 slider is good i prefer to make this sound clickable with 2 notes
00:09:253 (3,1) - Why are you stacking downbeat? it's looks good imo
00:09:253 (3) - I think that it is better to erase if only stack can do it what?
00:28:551 (6) - Let's make a circle and leave a gap of 1/1 beat vocals :/
00:29:848 - Why ignore the sound? 00:29:686 (2) - Let's shift this sound on the red tick there is a important sound and on the withe tick too but if i add or remove a note the string should be too long (the most inportant sound is on the red tick)
00:31:956 - If you mapping you should pick up the sound here
00:40:713 (3,4,5,6) - Is it not possible to reverse the 1/2 slider? slider renverse doesn't fit with the music here tbh
00:46:875 (5,1) - 00:09:253 (3,1) - same ^
00:52:389 (6,1) - Why suddenly pick up the lyrics? because there are strong
This is so strange that you decide whether to pick up the lyrics or pick up the guitar
00:53:524 (3) - There is no need to use 1/2 slider for drums :/
01:02:280 - Are not you picking up the sound?
01:02:443 (1) - This is wrong
01:02:605 - You should start from here need to emphasis the vocals
01:07:470 (5) - delete (easy same) like easy
01:08:929 (4) - You should not pick up lyrics 01:09:091 - Here is a strong sound but it's sound good it's fit with the music too
01:11:524 (4) - 01:19:307 (4) - 01:21:902 (4) - ^ ^
01:16:713 (3) - I think that this slider may be slightly shortened no because the chain should be too long if i map after this slider
01:21:902 (4,1) - overlap

Hard
00:10:064 - Think of it as three successive hits from here i prefer emphasis where the sound is strongest means here 00:10:226 (3)
00:11:848 (5) - Add NC no thanks
00:14:443 (5) - 00:17:037 (5) - 00:19:632 (5) - 00:22:064 (3) - ^ ^
You are using NC extensively from 00:00:335 (1) - to 00:10:551 - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
00:27:416 (4,8,9,1) - stack miss?
00:48:010 (4) - Why are you using Slider Reverse? for guitar
This sounds very strange. please fix this
00:49:307 (3,4) - Why Distance 1.30? 00:48:983 (1,2,3) - This is Distance 1.40
00:58:389 (4) - 00:48:010 (4) - same ^^
01:15:902 - You should not ignore this sound this moment the vocals are the most important
01:17:037 - 01:26:280 - 01:28:875 - ^ ^
01:36:334 (1) - remove NC (Just like Normal)
01:37:470 (5) - 01:40:064 (5) - 01:42:658 (5) - 01:45:253 (5) - 01:47:685 (3) - Add NC no thanks c:

Good luck!

Kaifin

Kaifin wrote:
hot anime babes :p

Easy
your rhythm at the start makes sense just had to think about it for a bit
00:04:064 (2,1) - these two are not parallel, which means they are different angles! though its a small thing its worth fixing, it'll make your map look a lot better subconsciously
00:05:686 (1,3) - these are also not the same angle, in a pattern that suggests that they are
there seems to be a lot of patterns like this throughout the map, consider going through and trying to make each set of patterns that is arranged to look parallel actually parallel via copy and pasting
00:34:064 (1,2) - can you put just a little bit more space between these two objects so it's not so cramped? like so
SPOILER
00:35:362 (3) - consider making this a curved slider, it looks really out of place/like it doesn't belong because you make a pattern of two with 00:34:064 (1,2) - and then it's just kind of tacked on the side i want that slider 3 be similar to slider 2
01:02:605 (1,2,3) - okay this will literally melt the easy player's mind, overlaps come out of nowhere and are super super confusing for noob player, 01:03:578 (2) - is okay on its own but 01:03:902 (3) - is definitely an issue, would recommend you rework this pattern to be less confusing like i said on the yasaija's mod there is time for that long slider disappeared
01:16:713 (3,1) - this pattern is fine vs the one above, because there is enough time/the body of the sliders arent as overlapped just for reference
01:33:740 (1,2,3) - this kind of flow is very very confusing to new players because they have trouble differentiating between the heads and tails of sliders, maybe try a pattern like this?
SPOILER

other than the parallel stuff pretty solid easy, maybe a bit on the circles for this bpm in the chorus but its low SR so doesn't really matter tbh it's readable and understandable so it's not a big problem

Normal
01:43:794 (6,1) - distance snap

solid diff no other suggestions

Hard
00:09:253 (4,1) - be careful with this placement, it's almost a hidden repeat but it's not :p
00:22:875 (5,6) - consider nerfing this distance a bit, since theres such a large gap between 00:22:551 (4,5) - it could be confused for 1/1 as well
00:48:010 (4) - imo it would better if you removed this repeat and made 00:48:334 - a circle because the vocal starts there and is strongest on that note, you'd have to do it for all 4 patterns if you do though here i want to emphasis the guitar, it's strong

feels weird that the garden diff doesn't start at the same time as all the other ones, it's really solid though

nice set good luck! check your parallels and stuff cause i feel like a lot of them in your diffs are off

Nya

-Nya- wrote:
Hi, from queue.

General:
Apparently there is one soundfile that has a delay which is unrankable. The soft-hitclap. Either try removing the delay or find a similar file that doesn’t have a delay. I'm going to talk again of it with a BN

Hard:
From 00:00:335 (1) – to 00:10:551 (4) – You didn’t hitsound this section at all. I think it’s really important that feedback should be given here. There are places where you can place hitsounds. Like: 00:00:821 (3) – (clap) 00:02:118 (3) – (clap) etc. This applies to the other diffs too.
00:00:335 (1,4) – Make these two objects parallel to each other to make the pattern look neater. no thanks Like this:
00:09:253 (4,1) – This overlap don’t look that good at all. A blanket or something that avoids that overlap would be much better.
00:23:199 (6) – There’s a cymbal sound in the background here. Place a finish here to emphasize that. You can take a look at what Garden did in his diff.
00:24:821 (4,6) – Avoid overlaps like this. It really doesn’t look good. Rather space it out and avoid it touching something.i like it :/ Like this:
00:39:253 (1) – A finish should be placed on the head of this slider since there’s a clear cymbal sound in the background.
00:39:740 (3) -^
01:16:713 (1) – Remove new combo here for consistency since new combo is added every second measure.

The biggest stuff that can be improved is the neatness of the diff (the look) as well as the hitsounds (especially the finishes since there’s a lot of places where finishes can be added) I’ll point out a few places that can look tidier, reffering to unnecessary overlaps: 00:26:280 (1,4) - 00:27:416 (4,8,9,1) - 00:28:875 (1,1) - 00:47:037 (1,2) – These are the overlaps that bothered me the most. Tidying up these sections will make the diff look much better. For the hitsounds I suggest taking a look at Garden’s diff. The hitsound advice applies to the other diffs too. Okaay no problem~

Normal:
00:09:416 (1) – Remove this new combo to be consistent with the previous NC’ing patterns.
00:18:497 (1,2) – Not the best flow tbh since both objects goes straight so the flow can get awkward. Rather try something like this instead but: no thanks
00:56:605 (4) – This pattern isn’t really following the music that well since there’s an important beat here too: 00:56:767 – Rather try something like this: it's sound weird for me sorry i don't like it :c
01:07:307 (4,5) – Replacing these two circles with a short slider would be better imo since beginners might be able to catch the rhythm easier with a slider than with two circles. Because catching two vocals with circles isn’t that easy. i like the 2 circles and i want to make the vocals clickable
01:36:010 (1) – Either remove new combo here or add new combo here: 01:36:334 (2) – because 01:36:334 (2) – should start on a new combo since it’s a new section of the song.

Easy:
The slider velocity is quite high for an Easy. I realized you have the same SV for Easy and Normal which I don’t advise since the Easy should be much easier for beginners. A SV like 0.8x would work much better. like i said on kaifin's mod it's readable and understandable to follow so it's not a problem
01:10:064 (5,3) – Rather try to avoid this overlap to make this pattern neater. but it's doesn't look nice because we see them 01:09:740 (4,5)

You can change the shape of the slider but the placement is better.

Good Luck~

No reply mean fixed!~

Wow thanks you guys for modding!~

Garden

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Garden 8 years ago

@Rizen: fixed!
@Yasaija 714: compared with other ones, I used a 1/2 slider at -> 00:15:578 (7) - for the more obvious drumbeat at 00:15:740 - , and two circles after it are just for variation from this.
@Kaifin: I don't like mapping intro haha

-Nya- wrote:
Garden’s Insane:
00:09:740 (3,4,5,6,7,8) – While testplaying, this pattern was quite difficult for me to catch because of the big jumps. I’m reffering to the jumps here: 00:09:740 (3,4) – and here: 00:09:902 (4,5) – Jumps for ¼ rhythms like these aren’t uncommon but the spacings are just too big for an Insane imo. These kind of jumps are more characteristic of an Extra. I suggest decreasing the spacings of those two jumps just a bit. nerfed a bit
00:11:848 (1,2) – I suggest increasing the spacing here a bit since there’s quite a strong beat on 00:12:334 (2) – It’s also to be consistent with similar beats like 00:11:037 (2) - 00:11:686 (5) – rather than the beat, I want to emphasize 00:11:848 - more with a relatively large spacing, consistent high spacing here would make both ones lack emphasize. The idea is consistent in this section like
00:14:443 (1,2) - 00:17:037 (1,2) - 00:19:632 (1,2) - , last one is of higher spacing as a transition to the faster patterns.
00:14:929 (2) - ^ ^
00:18:172 (7,1) – The spacing here differs quite a bit from the spacing here: 00:12:983 (7,1) – which is inconsistent since the beats are similar. I suggest making the spacing similar to keep similar beats’ spacings the same. I already tried to maintain similar visual spacing between sliders, the little real spacing variation doesn't affect much in gameplay and won't cause confusion imo.
00:27:091 (4,5,6) – Make the spacings of these three objects similar to make the pattern look more tidy. Like this: fixed the spacing
Picture
00:33:253 (1,1) – Misuse of new combo’s here imo. There isn’t really anything in the music to suggest two new combo’s. Players would still be able to read the pattern fine without the new combo’s. Rather remove both. I combo'ed those 1/1 gaps just to make the pattern super straightforward, it indicates the change in music pretty well too.
00:33:253 (1,3) – This overlap don’t look good tbh. Either move the (3), (4), (1) so they are overlapping half of 00:33:253 (1) – or stack them on top of 00:33:253 (1) – Like this for the first suggestion:
Picture
Personally I still feel stacking would be better though. hey please check it with stacking effects in editor
00:37:470 (4,3,4,5) – Same thing here. I suggest rather stacking.
00:39:740 (3,4) – Increase the spacing here a bit more to be more similar to 00:39:253 (1,2) – otherwise it looks quite inconsistent since both objects have the same beat. You can try moving (4) a bit to the right. slider head is more important when we talk about movement from slider -> circle so 00:39:253 (1,2) - actually isn't that big of spacing compared with 00:39:740 (3,4) - , moving a bit right doesn't affect much in gameplay so I'd rather keep it for the visual sake.
00:40:389 (1) – Are you sure of this shape? A normal curved slider would fit better imo for a nicer blanket with 00:39:740 (3) – welp I'm unsure now, changed the shape anyway
00:41:524 (5) – Move the tail of this slider down a bit so it’s more parallel with 00:41:199 (3) – I tried
00:43:956 (3) – I think a new combo is needed here too to be consistent with 00:42:983 (1,1,1) – I think the new combo’s isn’t really needed on the one hand but on the other hand I understand that there may be readibility issues. same thing above I was just trying to combo those 1/1 gaps
01:10:875 (2,1) – Improve the stack here. you need to check with stacking ;D
01:17:524 (1,2,3) – Again, these are quite big jumps for an Insane. They fit in better with an Extra. Rather nerf the jumps a bit. nope it's quite intense in terms of rhythm plus the pattern looks and flows really fine to me
01:36:010 (1) –I think someone already pointed this out, but this object is a bit off-screen. Just lift it upwards a tiny bit and it should be fine. yes

Thanks!

update

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352,183,104929,1,2,0:0:0:0:
507,250,105091,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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Celektus

737 posts

Joined April 2014

Celektus 8 years ago

mod done

gl

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

Celektus wrote:
[Normal]

some of these suggestions on Hitsounds should be done on every diff

there is no Snare on this slider end 00:23:199 - use a drum-whistle instead of a clap same here 00:32:767 (1) - and in most of the other places where you might be able to hear a open hi hat it's sound good with drums tbh

you only added a finish here 00:39:253 (1) - even though there are one here too 00:39:740 - 00:40:389 - here too 01:06:983 - overall you could've added some more finishes than you did the song just has more

you could add drum-claps here instead 00:53:524 (3,4,5) - as those represent tom drums better same here and maybe in some other places 01:05:199 (1,2) -

you could add a finish or drum-whistle here 01:34:875 - as there is this cymbal sound at the end

my last suggestion is more like some subjective feedback for future maps. Your kiai has denser rhythm than you early sections which make the kiai less intense in some way if you can maybe try to make less intense sections in even your lower diffs less dense so the more intense sections represent the songs intensity better.

No need to re map this now just take this however you want

[Hard]

I think you should map this clap sound passively 00:01:307 - to me that seems important enough to the song to map with a slider end or repeat slider and it's also kinda weird since you Hitsounded the claps in this case. I'd recommend a rhythm like you're right but in the intro i just wanted to emphasize guitar sounds no claps so i just add some hitsounds this

same with this slider 00:02:443 (1) - you can easily make this into a repeat slider without taking away emphasis on the guitar sounds no thanks

this is the first 1/2 stack in the map 00:12:983 (8,9) - and It doesn't seem like there is any reason for it being the way it is. For hard players it can be irritating to have 1/2 be represented in different ways in the same section without a specific reason behind it. you should make the 2 notes spaced out like the rest, you might wanna make a star shape with these 00:12:497 (7,8,9,1) - but there are ofc other ways to make this look good or whatever.

this goes for every 1/2 stack you have in the map. stay consistent with using either stacked or spaced out 1/2, more complex and inconsistent ways of handling stacks belong to Extras or complex to read sets.

if you can try and make the reverse arrow not overlapped at all 00:47:362 (2) - I know it's not really breaking any rules yet, but making it less obscured can always be an improvement I think. it's looks good i don't see a problem

it's kinda weird to map nearly 2/3 of the song with only simple shapes, then add 2 totally different ones without any reason and switching back to normal ones 01:15:578 (1,3) - y lol? this moment the vocals are the most important

same as I mentioned before stacks like this are kinda hard to read for players of this level as you established 1/2 to be nearly exclusively to be not stacked 01:33:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here the song kinda justifies it and you at least kinda introduced it before even if it's not really done well. My point still applies here tho. You should try to make these spaced out I think and if that seems to intense for arguably the most intense part in the song consider making them 1/2 sliders or anything else but stacks this moment should be clickable for vocals and stack i find it's useful

and it's even more confusing if you you the first 1/1 stack in the map right after that then 01:36:010 (7,1) - I would make 7 spaced apart from 1 in this case. no i don't think so

Thanks for modding!~

Volta

1,622 posts

Joined March 2014

Volta 8 years ago

i'm here for the taiko owo

[Kin's Oni]

00:00:335 - maybe change to d like you did in muzukashii?
00:02:605 - add k for the clap, like at 00:07:794 - ?
00:09:416 - , 00:09:497 - try to add d and 00:09:578 - change to k to make ddk triplet, the transition to next session would be more epic imo
00:22:064 - give finisher for the strong guitar?
00:22:307 - i think adding note here would be nice to represent the drum. you can compare with 01:47:929 - as well
00:49:470 - change to d would fits the drum better imo, make good variation too since the vocal is different than 00:59:848 -
01:15:578 - i feel like finisher here is nice
01:20:199 - add d? i think 5-plet is nice here considering it's a kiai session.
01:22:875 - try to make 5-plet here to make the kiai's intensity higher. kdkkd sounds good.
01:26:443 - add finisher to give same emphasis with 01:25:956 - and 01:27:091 - ?
01:29:037 - same as ^
01:36:010 - i'd map the bass sound, but up to you lol.
01:42:983 - i feel it flows better as ddd. maybe because you did it at many occasions such as 01:37:226 - and 01:38:524 -

[Kin's Muzukashii]

00:14:280 - remove this note? the 1/2 pattern is too long imo
00:13:794 - maybe change this to k? i think it would fits the guitar better
00:18:334 - remove? same as 00:14:280
00:22:226 - remove and 00:22:389 - move to 00:22:875 - i think it would be more natural of following guitar and drum.
00:22:064 - add finisher for strong guitar? same as Oni suggestion
00:27:253 - consider to remove for consistency with 00:24:659 - i think following vocal only is better here, especially for mid level diff
00:26:118 - remove and 00:25:632 - move to 00:25:470 - same reason as above, but this time is for consistency with 00:36:497 -
00:32:118 (1,2) - i heard you're worried about break. i think the best choice would be removing these 2 notes. it would make nice 2/1 break between sessions and fits with stretched vocal.
00:37:632 - remove and 00:37:470 - change to k
00:51:091 - consider to add k for the guitar. it's consistent with 00:45:902 - and currently the gap feels weird.
00:54:659 - move to 00:54:497 - and change to d? it's more fit with the drum and i feel the next finisher would get more impact this way
00:56:280 - add k, same as before
01:14:280 (1,2,3,4) - consider to change to ddkd , to make snare sound at 3rd note more stand out
01:15:578 - same as Oni, finisher here is nice for strong vocal imo
01:26:443 - finish? strong guitar
01:29:037 - same as ^
01:39:902 - , 01:41:686 - , 01:45:091 - remove? same as intro, i think long pattern would make it feel more intense than the kiai
01:44:767 (152,153) - swap sounds better

you may call me back after that~

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 8 years ago

Return m4m

[hard]

00:05:362 (3) - A jump here isn't fitting here imo, I don't hear there's a supporting sound to make a jump here, instead, using consistent DS with 00:05:199 (2) - is better
00:13:307 (1) - Unnecessary finish on head
00:18:497 (1) - ^
00:21:091 (1) - Finish on head here is better
01:15:578 (1) - Finish on head, also, this slider ignored the beat on 01:15:902 - to land on red tick, which making the finish on 01:16:064 - doesn't received enough emphasis than it should be (Jump distance can be reduced here, too, maybe the same DS with 01:25:632 (8,1) - )
01:16:713 (3) - Why there's no jump on this slider while 01:15:578 (1) - does? Also, there's an important vocal on 01:17:037 - so i don't see there's a reason on ignoring it
01:25:956 (1) - This one have finish though, but still have the problem of ignoring the vocal i mentioned before
01:28:551 (1) - ^, also, there's no jump here

[花園大佬]

00:17:037 (1) - 這個比其他滑條來說拉得不好看啊hhhhh，可以試試這樣包著 00:17:524 (2) -
神圖
求求大佬摸一摸我的asuiro

Good luck~

Kensuke

Beatmap Nominator

1,871 posts

Joined April 2014

Kensuke 8 years ago

late mod

[General]

Isn't the title should be "Remizera! ShortVer."? As the title in youtube said.
Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms: soft-hitclap.wav

[Easy]

01:11:686 (3) - I think you could make 1/1-beat slider and a note here, like you did on 01:09:091 (3,4) and 01:14:280 (3,4), for consistency. Also applied with 01:22:064 (3) if you fix this.
01:16:713 (3,1) - Maybe unstacking these because it can make newbies not seeing 01:18:172 (1). I think you could slightly move 01:18:172 (1) a little bit right side for more readable.
01:16:713 (3,4) - nit-picking but you can blanket if you care about it.
Really nice diff!

[Normal]

Can you increase your slider velocity to make it not so same as in Easy diff? like 1.2 or smething
00:00:335 (1,2,3) - Maybe something like this will more fit with the song?
01:02:443 (1) - I understand how you focus on vocal but what about making this follows both vocal and instrument sound? like this.

[Hard]

01:12:902 - There is a sound here, why don't you add a note here?
01:31:145 to 01:33:740 - This part is very intense, but it's much less rhythmically dense in the map. I think you could make something harder and appropriate with the song.

[Garden's Insane]

In my opinion. I think Hard and Electoz rarely have difference in rhythm density.
I wonder why you didn't map the beginning part like the other diffs do.
lazy

Good luck!

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

Firis Mistlud wrote:
Return m4m

[hard]
00:05:362 (3) - A jump here isn't fitting here imo, I don't hear there's a supporting sound to make a jump here, instead, using consistent DS with 00:05:199 (2) - is better guitar
00:13:307 (1) - Unnecessary finish on head
00:18:497 (1) - ^
00:21:091 (1) - Finish on head here is better
01:15:578 (1) - Finish on head, also, this slider ignored the beat on 01:15:902 - to land on red tick, which making the finish on 01:16:064 - doesn't received enough emphasis than it should be (Jump distance can be reduced here, too, maybe the same DS with 01:25:632 (8,1) - ) for emphasis strong guitar
01:16:713 (3) - Why there's no jump on this slider while 01:15:578 (1) - does? Also, there's an important vocal on 01:17:037 - so i don't see there's a reason on ignoring it ^
01:25:956 (1) - This one have finish though, but still have the problem of ignoring the vocal i mentioned before
01:28:551 (1) - ^, also, there's no jump here

Good luck~

- Frontier - wrote:
late mod

[General]
Isn't the title should be "Remizera! ShortVer."? As the title in youtube said. Yep!
Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms: soft-hitclap.wav
[Easy]
01:11:686 (3) - I think you could make 1/1-beat slider and a note here, like you did on 01:09:091 (3,4) and 01:14:280 (3,4), for consistency. but it's not the same moment :/ Also applied with 01:22:064 (3) if you fix this. I want to emphasis the guitar :c
01:16:713 (3,1) - Maybe unstacking these because it can make newbies not seeing 01:18:172 (1). I think you could slightly move 01:18:172 (1) a little bit right side for more readable. i think that there is time for the long slider to dispear
01:16:713 (3,4) - nit-picking but you can blanket if you care about it.
Really nice diff! Thanks!
[Normal]
Can you increase your slider velocity to make it not so same as in Easy diff? like 1.2 or smething i changed it it's not the same anymore in easy diff look http://i.imgur.com/m5C89Y5.png
00:00:335 (1,2,3) - Maybe something like this will more fit with the song? i prefer finish with a circle tbh
01:02:443 (1) - I understand how you focus on vocal but what about making this follows both vocal and instrument sound? like this. no thanks
[Hard]
01:12:902 - There is a sound here, why don't you add a note here? the sound is not very high :/
01:31:145 to 01:33:740 - This part is very intense, but it's much less rhythmically dense in the map. I think you could make something harder and appropriate with the song. but the strong sounds are in the white ticks so i prefer put circles that 1/1 sliders or sliders renverse
Good luck!

No reply mean fixed!~

Thanks for modding!!~

Saltssaumure

205 posts

Joined April 2017

Saltssaumure 8 years ago

Looks like everyone else has already covered nearly everything, so here's a mini-mod

[Easy]
00:10:713 (1,2) - Not quite in a straight line.

[Normal]
01:02:443 - This map doesn't have a spinner, which could lead to stagnant leaderboards. Here could be a good place for a spinner, on the long vocal.
01:49:307 (1,2,3,4) - The stacked circle and reverse slider feels too hard to read, especially as it's right at the end of the map and hasn't been used in the rest of the map.

[Hard]
00:48:983 (1,2,3,4) - It's not quite square.
01:02:605 - Same spinner suggestion as in Normal.
01:15:578 (2,3) - Flow feels uncomfortable,, it emphasises slider end of 2 too much bc of the strange angle needed to get to 3. Rotate 2 clockwise a little so it points in 3's general direction.
01:31:145 (1,2,3,4) - Not quite square again.

[Insane]
Can't comment on this too in depth bc I can barely pass it

01:06:334 (1,2,3,4) - The angle between each slider is different. I see that the slider heads are in the same place as the previous combo, but by the time I'm going to slider 4, I've already forgotten the previous combo so that one feels particularly out of place.
01:08:929 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - Got owned by this part bc I thought it was going to be a star formation. (Probably not a problem if no one else thinks it's a problem, I'm not gud at game.)
No spinner, but also no idea where to place spinners at this difficulty either.

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

Saltssaumure wrote:
Looks like everyone else has already covered nearly everything, so here's a mini-mod

[Easy]
00:10:713 (1,2) - Not quite in a straight line. that's the point

[Normal]
01:02:443 - This map doesn't have a spinner, which could lead to stagnant leaderboards. Here could be a good place for a spinner, on the long vocal. i prefer slider because we can emphasize better the vocals and it's more better when it's clickable
01:49:307 (1,2,3,4) - The stacked circle and reverse slider feels too hard to read, especially as it's right at the end of the map and hasn't been used in the rest of the map. i don't think so we can see circle and slider renverse very well imo

[Hard]
00:48:983 (1,2,3,4) - It's not quite square.
01:02:605 - Same spinner suggestion as in Normal. like i said before
01:15:578 (2,3) - Flow feels uncomfortable,, it emphasises slider end of 2 too much bc of the strange angle needed to get to 3. Rotate 2 clockwise a little so it points in 3's general direction. for me the flow it's good :/
01:31:145 (1,2,3,4) - Not quite square again. are you sure?

No reply mean fixed!

Thanks for modding!!~

Saltssaumure

205 posts

Joined April 2017

Saltssaumure 8 years ago

ShogunMoon wrote:
SPOILER
Saltssaumure wrote:
Looks like everyone else has already covered nearly everything, so here's a mini-mod

[Easy]
00:10:713 (1,2) - Not quite in a straight line. that's the point

[Normal]
01:02:443 - This map doesn't have a spinner, which could lead to stagnant leaderboards. Here could be a good place for a spinner, on the long vocal. i prefer slider because we can emphasize better the vocals and it's more better when it's clickable
01:49:307 (1,2,3,4) - The stacked circle and reverse slider feels too hard to read, especially as it's right at the end of the map and hasn't been used in the rest of the map. i don't think so we can see circle and slider renverse very well imo

[Hard]
00:48:983 (1,2,3,4) - It's not quite square.
01:02:605 - Same spinner suggestion as in Normal. like i said before
01:15:578 (2,3) - Flow feels uncomfortable,, it emphasises slider end of 2 too much bc of the strange angle needed to get to 3. Rotate 2 clockwise a little so it points in 3's general direction. for me the flow it's good :
01:31:145 (1,2,3,4) - Not quite square again. are you sure?

SPOILER

No reply mean fixed!

Thanks for modding!!~

If you rotate it by -7 degrees, you can see that it is definitely not square.

Image

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

Saltssaumure wrote:
If you rotate it by -7 degrees, you can see that it is definitely not square.
Image

but it's not a problem as it is we don't see the difference. c:

Lasse

osu! Alumni

3,648 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 8 years ago

general
http://i.imgur.com/mzimYbD.jpg combo 3 should be brighter, I doesn't look nice overall and is also a pain to read with bg dim

garden
where's the intro

00:10:389 (1) - 3/4 seems so weird here with the strong sounds on red tick, seems even like there is some guitar there
00:11:037 (2,3) - this part makes it so hard to tell what you want to follow, like 2 is mapped to a drum, then 3 to guitar, 4 emphasizes drums again
same for similar spots like 00:13:307 (1,2,3,4,5) -
00:53:524 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I think either 5 note streams to fit the drums with tapping, or utilize more 1/4 sliders to have tapping on vocals?
00:57:578 (1,2,3,1) - could make this easier, it's way harder than first time that pattern happens even though music is the same
also for all these 1/4 sliders patterns with overmapped ends, like this one or 01:06:334 (1,2,3,4) - I think muting/lowering tail volume would fit well
01:25:389 (5) - this plays so different from all your doubles after sliders etc. and there seems to be no real reason do put it here once when it's not something your map really utilizes and there is no sudden blue tick emphasis in the song

yea I can't really understand a lot of rhythm choices :/

hard
garden's hitsounding seemed better, could probably copy that or fix yours
for example: you replaced the whistle with a kick hitsound and thus can't use real whistles which makes it really empty
+ lots of misplaced things and missing things
like 00:22:064 (3) - should have a kick or drum clap or something, not a snare

00:01:470 (1,2,3) - i don't get what this is supposed to follow, definitely not the claps and the guitar also sounds more it's doing 3+2 patterns, like http://i.imgur.com/rIyhTUG.jpg
similar for most of the intro
00:04:064 (1,2,1,2,3) - things like this actually make sense though
00:10:226 (3) - think you could do something like http://i.imgur.com/VCx67Ad.jpg here, drums are really intense to fit a triple and slider makes it easier, garden's diff uses some 5+ note streams, so having some clickable 1/4 in this diff would also make sense
00:11:199 - rhythm again seems a bit unrerasonable as it feels like you just mixed multiple layers together for tapping with no differantiation. could try something like http://i.imgur.com/iWfuS0a.jpg
some examples^ rhythm seems to be one of the major issues

another issue is, there seems to be no real coherence of your objects a lot of times
00:11:848 (5,7) - things like this seems okay, but would still be nicer if you went for more even visual spacing http://i.imgur.com/nNE5YiW.jpg
00:12:497 (7,8,9,1) - same here, looks like you tried to make some kind of geometrical shape on 7-8-9 but and then 1 is just like "lol no"
quick example how even angles would clean stuff like this up http://i.imgur.com/JXySrs4.jpg

some other things:
00:18:172 (8,9) - why is this suddenly a stack when you usually spaced them? (though stack seems actually better with how insignificant 9 is musically)
00:20:929 (9,1) - pretty overdone sudden spike for a hard diff, even more so as it becomes really easy to misread as 1/1

00:23:686 - rhythm in this part seems a bit better overall, at least more clear what you're following usually
00:25:794 (7,8) - should ctrlg this rhythm though as you follow vocals before and after so suddenly mapping drums makes no sense when music is the same

01:07:794 - and the next big issue: this parts feels the same as the less intense parts, besides a few more passive 1/4 rhythms. no spacing increase, no sv increase, nothing that really differentiates them
01:31:145 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why is this suddenly so undermapped and empty, the song is so intense and offers drums on the red ticks usually, so you could use some 1/2 sliders etc

normal
00:00:335 (1,2,3) - rhythm here is like the opposite of the following ones lol looking at what ticks it emphasizes
http://i.imgur.com/5ACY6SA.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/qqg23wP.jpg both make more sense
though overall rhythm for this part seems much better than hard
00:08:280 (1) - should be careful with random normal sampleset on sliderbody, sudden scratchy sounds are weird there
01:25:307 (4) - what is this mapped to? something like http://i.imgur.com/EduIq7D.jpg seems better
as on hard, visuals on some spots look pretty messy, mainly due to visual spacing being so unevend/random, like 01:33:416 (6,1,2) - for example, but overall the diff is better than hard

easy
00:34:713 (2) - really unintuitve rhythm as song emphasizes red ticks here, something like http://i.imgur.com/i7FL2yx.jpg or at least http://i.imgur.com/EtAO6za.jpg would be nice
01:07:307 (3) - 1/2 sliders aren't really nice on easy diffs, especially if you use them only once and in a part with much surrounding density. http://i.imgur.com/nH2PzUj.jpg should be fine if your spacing makes it clear that gap is different, like http://i.imgur.com/0glZO6G.jpg
01:17:686 (4) - similar here, would go for the same gap, or maybe even http://i.imgur.com/LYJdCyU.jpg
01:11:037 (2,3) - things like this really oversimplify the song imo. emphasis is on 01:11:524 - - but it's ignored to map weak drums. could be something like http://i.imgur.com/t9BXMg0.jpg // 01:22:064 (3) - same on this and so on

rhythms like 01:25:956 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - are really nice though
01:33:740 (1,2,3) - this is really much for an easy, considering the target audience of this difficulty (pretty much people that just installed the game). and that on 185bpm

most things mentioned are examples and apply more throughout the map
gl!

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

Lasse wrote:
general
http://i.imgur.com/mzimYbD.jpg combo 3 should be brighter, I doesn't look nice overall and is also a pain to read with bg dim

hard
garden's hitsounding seemed better, could probably copy that or fix yours
for example: you replaced the whistle with a kick hitsound and thus can't use real whistles which makes it really empty
+ lots of misplaced things and missing things
like 00:22:064 (3) - should have a kick or drum clap or something, not a snare

00:01:470 (1,2,3) - i don't get what this is supposed to follow, definitely not the claps and the guitar also sounds more it's doing 3+2 patterns, like http://i.imgur.com/rIyhTUG.jpg
similar for most of the intro
00:04:064 (1,2,1,2,3) - things like this actually make sense though
00:10:226 (3) - think you could do something like http://i.imgur.com/VCx67Ad.jpg here, drums are really intense to fit a triple and slider makes it easier, garden's diff uses some 5+ note streams, so having some clickable 1/4 in this diff would also make sense
00:11:199 - rhythm again seems a bit unrerasonable as it feels like you just mixed multiple layers together for tapping with no differantiation. could try something like http://i.imgur.com/iWfuS0a.jpg
some examples^ rhythm seems to be one of the major issues nice example!

another issue is, there seems to be no real coherence of your objects a lot of times
00:11:848 (5,7) - things like this seems okay, but would still be nicer if you went for more even visual spacing http://i.imgur.com/nNE5YiW.jpg
00:12:497 (7,8,9,1) - same here, looks like you tried to make some kind of geometrical shape on 7-8-9 but and then 1 is just like "lol no"
quick example how even angles would clean stuff like this up http://i.imgur.com/JXySrs4.jpg

some other things:
00:18:172 (8,9) - why is this suddenly a stack when you usually spaced them? (though stack seems actually better with how insignificant 9 is musically)
00:20:929 (9,1) - pretty overdone sudden spike for a hard diff, even more so as it becomes really easy to misread as 1/1

00:23:686 - rhythm in this part seems a bit better overall, at least more clear what you're following usually
00:25:794 (7,8) - should ctrlg this rhythm though as you follow vocals before and after so suddenly mapping drums makes no sense when music is the same

01:07:794 - and the next big issue: this parts feels the same as the less intense parts, besides a few more passive 1/4 rhythms. no spacing increase, no sv increase, nothing that really differentiates them
01:31:145 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why is this suddenly so undermapped and empty, the song is so intense and offers drums on the red ticks usually, so you could use some 1/2 sliders etc

normal
00:00:335 (1,2,3) - rhythm here is like the opposite of the following ones lol looking at what ticks it emphasizes
http://i.imgur.com/5ACY6SA.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/qqg23wP.jpg both make more sense
though overall rhythm for this part seems much better than hard
00:08:280 (1) - should be careful with random normal sampleset on sliderbody, sudden scratchy sounds are weird there
01:25:307 (4) - what is this mapped to? something like http://i.imgur.com/EduIq7D.jpg seems better
as on hard, visuals on some spots look pretty messy, mainly due to visual spacing being so unevend/random, like 01:33:416 (6,1,2) - for example, but overall the diff is better than hard

easy
00:34:713 (2) - really unintuitve rhythm as song emphasizes red ticks here, something like http://i.imgur.com/i7FL2yx.jpg or at least http://i.imgur.com/EtAO6za.jpg would be nice
01:07:307 (3) - 1/2 sliders aren't really nice on easy diffs, especially if you use them only once and in a part with much surrounding density. http://i.imgur.com/nH2PzUj.jpg should be fine if your spacing makes it clear that gap is different, like http://i.imgur.com/0glZO6G.jpg
01:17:686 (4) - similar here, would go for the same gap, or maybe even http://i.imgur.com/LYJdCyU.jpg
01:11:037 (2,3) - things like this really oversimplify the song imo. emphasis is on 01:11:524 - - but it's ignored to map weak drums. could be something like http://i.imgur.com/t9BXMg0.jpg // 01:22:064 (3) - same on this and so on i prefer emphasis the guitar at this moment tbh

rhythms like 01:25:956 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - are really nice though
01:33:740 (1,2,3) - this is really much for an easy, considering the target audience of this difficulty (pretty much people that just installed the game). and that on 185bpm

most things mentioned are examples and apply more throughout the map
gl!

No reply mean fixed!~ lol

Thanks for this mod!

vekt0r

209 posts

Joined May 2016

vekt0r 8 years ago

hi, returning m4m
this is for yesterday's version of the map since the internet wasn't working earlier today, sorry

btw you might want to cut the last few seconds off your audio file, since there are 6 seconds after your last sound, and the last 3 seconds are complete silence

Easy:
00:24:334 (2,3) - there’s no sound on the 3 here, which confuses players, especially because the intro used many red tick rhythms; I suggest replacing these with a 3/2 repeat slider
00:34:064 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - not that important, but having no curved sliders here gives off a different feeling than before

Normal:
maybe it's just because normal diff, but i have a hard time telling what you're mapping to sometimes (same for easy but less)
00:26:929 - make clickable; players will click here since there are strong guitar/vocal/drums on the white tick
00:31:470 (7) - nc for consistency
01:27:091 (3,4) - if you’re following vocals at 01:29:686 (3,4) -, it would be better to follow vocals here too

Hard:
00:01:470 (1,2,3) - here I would suggest making the downbeat clickable, otherwise it’s counterintuitive for a hard, especially since the downbeat is the strongest note here
00:11:037 (2,3) - ctrl-g on this rhythm helps map the important beat at 00:11:362 - and also helps emphasize the 4
00:24:821 (4,6) - usually you tend to perfect stack objects instead of overlapping, for example 00:35:199 (4,6) -, so I would recommend perfect stacking here
01:05:199 (1,2) - I think you can make the ends of these sliders clickable; it would still be a simpler rhythm than 00:53:524 (1,2,3,4,5) - (by the way that rhythm is too complicated imo)
01:36:010 (7,1) - you could try to continue the pattern (for placement) from 01:33:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -; right now it looks awkward imo because it’s too close to the previous note

Garden’s Insane:
00:26:280 (5,1) - and 00:36:659 (7,1) - I think you should emphasize the guitar on 5 with a 1/1 slider (like 00:23:686 (1) -); it’s different from other places with 1/1 gaps
00:45:091 - and 00:50:280 - feels weird not to have this clickable since this section is following the guitar/drums

you can probably tell which points are for recurring patterns
good luck!

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

vekt0r wrote:
hi, returning m4m
this is for yesterday's version of the map since the internet wasn't working earlier today, sorry

btw you might want to cut the last few seconds off your audio file, since there are 6 seconds after your last sound, and the last 3 seconds are complete silence yes i know and i like it

Easy:
00:24:334 (2,3) - there’s no sound on the 3 here, which confuses players, especially because the intro used many red tick rhythms; I suggest replacing these with a 3/2 repeat slider there is one
00:34:064 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - not that important, but having no curved sliders here gives off a different feeling than before it's not important

Normal:
maybe it's just because normal diff, but i have a hard time telling what you're mapping to sometimes (same for easy but less)
00:26:929 - make clickable; players will click here since there are strong guitar/vocal/drums on the white tick i prefer follow vocals
00:31:470 (7) - nc for consistency yes but it should be inconsistent too because after the 3 notes 00:31:470 (7,8,9) - there is strong sound which need nc so i can't
01:27:091 (3,4) - if you’re following vocals at 01:29:686 (3,4) -, it would be better to follow vocals here too there is important sound here 01:27:740 (4)

Hard:
00:01:470 (1,2,3) - here I would suggest making the downbeat clickable, otherwise it’s counterintuitive for a hard, especially since the downbeat is the strongest note here it's the same density so it's not a problem
00:11:037 (2,3) - ctrl-g on this rhythm helps map the important beat at 00:11:362 - and also helps emphasize the 4 no thanks
00:24:821 (4,6) - usually you tend to perfect stack objects instead of overlapping, for example 00:35:199 (4,6) -, so I would recommend perfect stacking here i like this overlap i don't want to change it tbh
01:05:199 (1,2) - I think you can make the ends of these sliders clickable; it would still be a simpler rhythm than 00:53:524 (1,2,3,4,5) - (by the way that rhythm is too complicated imo) the drums are most important at this moment i don't want to emphasize a other sound
01:36:010 (7,1) - you could try to continue the pattern (for placement) from 01:33:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -; right now it looks awkward imo because it’s too close to the previous note i can't, max is x1.00 and it's looks bad :/

good luck!

Thanks for modding!!~

Garden

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1,368 posts

Joined June 2013

Garden 8 years ago

Celektus wrote:
[Garden's Insane]

I think these 2 should be spaced the same 00:10:389 (1,1) - 00:12:983 (7,1) - as both sounds seem equally as strong. I would check each instance of those parts. They are similar in visual spacing, how they actually play are not that different imo

wouldn't a extended slider fit here too? 00:23:199 (1,1) - no that plays weird..

seems a bit sketchy to me to mix 1/1, 1/2 and 1/4 stacks in one section 00:25:794 (3,4) - this diff is kinda going into the direction of Extra though I think you might still wanna make at least on of the 3 different like the 1/4. or the 1/2 as you mix between stacked and not stacked a bit 00:27:091 (4,5,6) - I changed a 1/2 stack rest should be clear enough )

I do like how you use them tho tbh xD

Firis Mistlud wrote:
[花園大佬]
00:17:037 (1) - 這個比其他滑條來說拉得不好看啊hhhhh，可以試試這樣包著 00:17:524 (2) - 不懂滑条审美 ;w; 我看着还行，看看还有没有人提吧
神圖
求求大佬摸一摸我的asuiro 过阵子可能来瞧瞧歌不错

- Frontier - wrote:
[Garden's Insane]
In my opinion. I think Hard and Electoz rarely have difference in rhythm density.
I wonder why you didn't map the beginning part like the other diffs do.
lazy you get the point
Good luck![/notice]

Saltssaumure wrote:
[Insane]
Can't comment on this too in depth bc I can barely pass it
01:06:334 (1,2,3,4) - The angle between each slider is different. I see that the slider heads are in the same place as the previous combo, but by the time I'm going to slider 4, I've already forgotten the previous combo so that one feels particularly out of place. A little difference in angle change is also barely noticeable cuz when you play 4 you already forgot the direction of 1 like how you forgot previous combo lol
01:08:929 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - Got owned by this part bc I thought it was going to be a star formation. (Probably not a problem if no one else thinks it's a problem, I'm not gud at game.) yea its okay everyone has their own intepretation
No spinner, but also no idea where to place spinners at this difficulty either.

Lasse wrote:
garden
where's the intro i still map the strong half of intro tho
00:10:389 (1) - 3/4 seems so weird here with the strong sounds on red tick, seems even like there is some guitar there I mainly emphasize the crash sound at 00:10:389 - , the sounds on red tick arent that obvious to me in actual gameplay
00:11:037 (2,3) - this part makes it so hard to tell what you want to follow, like 2 is mapped to a drum, then 3 to guitar, 4 emphasizes drums again I try to follow the guitar melody in this whole section, dunno how i should explain in detail but it sounds intuitive enoughh to me..
same for similar spots like 00:13:307 (1,2,3,4,5) -
00:53:524 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I think either 5 note streams to fit the drums with tapping, or utilize more 1/4 sliders to have tapping on vocals? streams, the pattern was supposed to be easy for some reason :<
00:57:578 (1,2,3,1) - could make this easier, it's way harder than first time that pattern happens even though music is the same well I nerfed the spacing
also for all these 1/4 sliders patterns with overmapped ends, like this one or 01:06:334 (1,2,3,4) - I think muting/lowering tail volume would fit well yes
01:25:389 (5) - this plays so different from all your doubles after sliders etc. and there seems to be no real reason do put it here once when it's not something your map really utilizes and there is no sudden blue tick emphasis in the song changed

yea I can't really understand a lot of rhythm choices :/ :\

vekt0r wrote:
Garden’s Insane:
00:26:280 (5,1) - and 00:36:659 (7,1) - I think you should emphasize the guitar on 5 with a 1/1 slider (like 00:23:686 (1) -); it’s different from other places with 1/1 gaps you are completely right, I made some modification now
00:45:091 - and 00:50:280 - feels weird not to have this clickable since this section is following the guitar/drums i think it follows the guitar well

you can probably tell which points are for recurring patterns
good luck!

Thank you aall

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grindiee

14 posts

Joined July 2015

grindiee 8 years ago

hello there

very short mod, really couldn't find much. some of these are just me being picky. (have you had a bn look at this recently?)
[box=[Easy:1337]]
00:00:335 (1) - this slider sounds very awkward with the music. i suggest something like this:

(i'm not sure if notes like this aren't allowed in easy. if that's the case, a single circle in place of the first slider in my link)[box=[Hard:1337]]
00:20:767 (8,9) - consider having these part of a separate combo or the following one. the toms in the music transition into the next section
01:28:551 (1) - question in design here: why not use the same or a similar slider as 01:25:956 (1) for this note? the red anchor on the first slider corresponds with the guitar riff perfectly. seems like a missed opportunity not to use it again
great job with these

good luck friend ♡

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

grindiee wrote:
hello there

very short mod, really couldn't find much. some of these are just me being picky. (have you had a bn look at this recently?) Yep, i think it should be long because it's my first map for rank and i don't know if bns likes make mods or even bubbled or qualified first map~

[box=[Easy:1337]]
00:00:335 (1) - this slider sounds very awkward with the music. i suggest something like this:
(i'm not sure if notes like this aren't allowed in easy. if that's the case, a single circle in place of the first slider in my link) no you can't but this slider renverse emphasis the clap so i prefer to keep this

[box=[Hard:1337]]
00:20:767 (8,9) - consider having these part of a separate combo or the following one. the toms in the music transition into the next section no because it's the same density of the music, so a new combo it's not necessary
01:28:551 (1) - question in design here: why not use the same or a similar slider as 01:25:956 (1) for this note? the red anchor on the first slider corresponds with the guitar riff perfectly. seems like a missed opportunity not to use it again fixed in a other way
great job with these

good luck friend ♡Thanks for modding!~

Kilabarus

998 posts

Joined May 2015

Kilabarus 8 years ago

hi m4m from your q

Easy:

00:00:335 (1,2) - I think you heard many about these first sliders. They seem to me pretty odd to play because they accent anything imo. Maybe try starting from red tick, not blue? https://puu.sh/wEf5J/9b28c8956f.png
00:05:362 (4) - This is only one circle in this section + it stands on actual nothing ( not on a bit or drum or something like this ), making 00:04:713 (3) - a reverse slider would be better idea
01:01:956 (4,1,2,3) - Too many overlaps for one pattern? You avoided overlaps before though
01:25:956 (1,3) - If these are identical, why 01:28:551 (1,3) - these are not?
01:43:307 (4,1) - sad blanket

Normal:

she is like

lo

00:29:848 - You didn't miss beats in this section before, so maybe try using 1/2 slider on 00:29:686 (2) - ?
00:32:605 - ^ put circle?
00:39:253 (1,2) - You mapped very strong sounds with finishes on tails of slider, but mapped weak sounds 00:40:713 (3,4,5,6) - harder like in 2 times, I think this isn't right + 00:39:578 - actual beat missed
01:20:118 (5) - Too passive slider, try to create something more interesting like https://puu.sh/wEfY6/afb551c1ef.png
01:37:469 (4,1) - Make them parallel

Hard

00:09:416 (1,2) - I think this rhythm is better https://puu.sh/wEg6h/cb842f67f7.png
00:11:848 (5,7) - Sad blanket
00:32:929 (2) - 00:42:983 (1,2) - Making identical rhythm patterns would be better idea imo

Nice!

Garden's hai tai

ufufuf this BG

00:09:902 (4) - If you ctrl+G this slider circular flow would be better
00:34:064 (1) - 00:36:659 (1) - These sounds are the same, why you map them differently?
01:07:470 - You can emphasize "you" vocal here as previous vocals were only one word length
01:45:253 (1) - This slider can touch bar that shows hit accuracy

Funny diff, enjoyed playing it

Some more polishment or nitpicking from MrSergio and this map would be ready for ranking, keep it up!

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

MashaSG wrote:
hi m4m from your q

Easy:

00:00:335 (1,2) - I think you heard many about these first sliders. They seem to me pretty odd to play because they accent anything imo. Maybe try starting from red tick, not blue? https://puu.sh/wEf5J/9b28c8956f.png I make same sliders like 00:05:686 (1,2)
00:05:362 (4) - This is only one circle in this section + it stands on actual nothing ( not on a bit or drum or something like this ), making 00:04:713 (3) - a reverse slider would be better idea
01:01:956 (4,1,2,3) - Too many overlaps for one pattern? You avoided overlaps before though
01:25:956 (1,3) - If these are identical, why 01:28:551 (1,3) - these are not?
01:43:307 (4,1) - sad blanket
Normal:

she is like lo :3

00:29:848 - You didn't miss beats in this section before, so maybe try using 1/2 slider on 00:29:686 (2) - ?
00:32:605 - ^ put circle? there is no sound to emphasize tbh so i prefer keep without circle
00:39:253 (1,2) - You mapped very strong sounds with finishes on tails of slider, but mapped weak sounds 00:40:713 (3,4,5,6) - harder like in 2 times, I think this isn't right + 00:39:578 - actual beat missed
01:20:118 (5) - Too passive slider, try to create something more interesting like https://puu.sh/wEfY6/afb551c1ef.png
01:37:469 (4,1) - Make them parallel i like actually :/
Hard

00:09:416 (1,2) - I think this rhythm is better https://puu.sh/wEg6h/cb842f67f7.png
00:11:848 (5,7) - Sad blanket
00:32:929 (2) - 00:42:983 (1,2) - Making identical rhythm patterns would be better idea imo
Nice!

Some more polishment or nitpicking from MrSergio and this map would be ready for ranking, keep it up! Nice!~

Thanks for this nice mod!~

Kin

Beatmap Nominator

2,629 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 8 years ago

Volta wrote:
i'm here for the taiko owo

[Kin's Oni]
00:00:335 - maybe change to d like you did in muzukashii? oni is focusing on the guitare while muzu on claps
00:02:605 - add k for the clap, like at 00:07:794 - ? as mentionned ^
00:09:416 - , 00:09:497 - try to add d and 00:09:578 - change to k to make ddk triplet, the transition to next session would be more epic imo fixed
00:22:064 - give finisher for the strong guitar?
00:22:307 - i think adding note here would be nice to represent the drum. you can compare with 01:47:929 - as well both fixed
00:49:470 - change to d would fits the drum better imo, make good variation too since the vocal is different than 00:59:848 - uI think using k 1/2 give a better emphasis on D finisher
01:15:578 - i feel like finisher here is nice there's no cymbal, but yeah, it does flow better, so fixed
01:20:199 - add d? i think 5-plet is nice here considering it's a kiai session. fixed
01:22:875 - try to make 5-plet here to make the kiai's intensity higher. kdkkd sounds good. I still prefer to use the ddk ddk for the vocal and the finisher emphasis
01:26:443 - add finisher to give same emphasis with 01:25:956 - and 01:27:091 - ?
01:29:037 - same as ^ other is stronger so, I prefer to keep the way it is
01:36:010 - i'd map the bass sound, but up to you lol. ye, sounds good, d added
01:42:983 - i feel it flows better as ddd. maybe because you did it at many occasions such as 01:37:226 - and 01:38:524 - I'm following the guitare with those pattern, so I think it's better to keep the ddk since guitare is here
[Kin's Muzukashii]
00:14:280 - remove this note? the 1/2 pattern is too long imo fixed
00:13:794 - maybe change this to k? i think it would fits the guitar better I kinda like how the ddkddk flow with the guitare here D:
00:18:334 - remove? same as 00:14:280 fixed
00:22:226 - remove and 00:22:389 - move to 00:22:875 - i think it would be more natural of following guitar and drum.
00:22:064 - add finisher for strong guitar? same as Oni suggestion both fixed
00:27:253 - consider to remove for consistency with 00:24:659 - i think following vocal only is better here, especially for mid level diff fixed
00:26:118 - remove and 00:25:632 - move to 00:25:470 - same reason as above, but this time is for consistency with 00:36:497 -
00:32:118 (1,2) - i heard you're worried about break. i think the best choice would be removing these 2 notes. it would make nice 2/1 break between sessions and fits with stretched vocal. both point fixed
00:37:632 - remove and 00:37:470 - change to k removed but changed this one into k 00:37:794 -
00:51:091 - consider to add k for the guitar. it's consistent with 00:45:902 - and currently the gap feels weird.
00:54:659 - move to 00:54:497 - and change to d? it's more fit with the drum and i feel the next finisher would get more impact this way fixed
00:56:280 - add k, same as before fixed
01:14:280 (1,2,3,4) - consider to change to ddkd , to make snare sound at 3rd note more stand out the kddk is mainly following the vocal
01:15:578 - same as Oni, finisher here is nice for strong vocal imo fixed
01:26:443 - finish? strong guitar
01:29:037 - same as ^ same thing as oni
01:39:902 - , 01:41:686 - , 01:45:091 - remove? same as intro, i think long pattern would make it feel more intense than the kiai
01:44:767 (152,153) - swap sounds better both fixed!
you may call me back after that~

thanks for mod!

Muzukashii

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Tags:world election whirlpool 10th anniversary eroge opening visual novel Garden Kin short version Yakushi Ruri Amagasaki Urara Hashizaki Tooru Nemoto Katsunori
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Beomsan

Beatmap Nominator

1,890 posts

Joined November 2013

Beomsan 8 years ago

M4M
do you want a mod for this map? i dunno lol

I'm not good at english

[Easy]

00:08:280 (1) - visual(...)
00:26:280 - ~ https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/haQV4UO.png i'd like to recommend this rhythm. If you modify this, this part will be consistent with the previous part, also will be able to better follow vocals.
00:36:659 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ not the same but similar.

[Normal]

00:39:253 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is quite a mess pattern i guess. placement, rhythm selection, flow,, It is hard to say that all of this is in the best state. https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/r1IPR6w.jpg

[Hard]

00:13:145 (9,1) - distance (If you intended a long distance, this should be increase more.)
00:40:389 (1) - It is difficult to recognize these as "jumps".
01:00:010 (1) - 01:06:334 (1) - etcetc yeah

[Garden's Insane]

nothing

~~wtf is this low quality mod~~ I didn't intend this ;_;

I dont know well but I felt strange about hitsounding of ENH
I recommend copying garden's hitsounding
overall neat mapset, gl

Yuuya_ke

251 posts

Joined May 2015

Yuuya_ke 8 years ago

placeholder for m4m thing

Volta

1,622 posts

Joined March 2014

Volta 8 years ago

quick recheck (no kd)

[Kin's Muzukashii]
00:54:497 - according to your reply, a don should be present here.

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

Beomsan wrote:
M4M
do you want a mod for this map? i dunno lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm not good at english

[Easy]
00:08:280 (1) - visual(...)
00:26:280 - ~ https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/haQV4UO.png i'd like to recommend this rhythm. If you modify this, this part will be consistent with the previous part, also will be able to better follow vocals. i like make a pattern for the vocals and after for rythm, i don't want to emphasize vocals to much
00:36:659 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ not the same but similar. ^
[Normal]
00:39:253 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is quite a mess pattern i guess. placement, rhythm selection, flow,, It is hard to say that all of this is in the best state. https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/r1IPR6w.jpg
[Hard]
00:13:145 (9,1) - distance (If you intended a long distance, this should be increase more.) no really
00:40:389 (1) - It is difficult to recognize these as "jumps".
01:00:010 (1) - 01:06:334 (1) - etcetc yeah i don't want to increase ds too much i don't like big jump for hard diff tbh
I dont know well but I felt strange about hitsounding of ENH
I recommend copying garden's hitsounding
overall neat mapset, gl

Thanks for modding!!~

Beomsan

Beatmap Nominator

1,890 posts

Joined November 2013

Beomsan 8 years ago

Ambiguous distance causes confusion tho.
You need to get some advice about it.
Ofc this isnt force, just do what you want.
But there must be a lot of consideration about that I guess.

AzureDoctor

196 posts

Joined January 2016

AzureDoctor 8 years ago

Returning M4M

[General]

All good

[Easy]

00:07:632 (3,1) - blanket is slightly off
00:11:848 (3,1) - would look nicer if these were symmetrical
00:13:307 (1,4) - ^
00:17:037 (3,1) - ^
00:19:632 (3,1) - ^
00:53:525 (3) - I feel like the rhythm here should be more dense since there's a fill. maybe change it to circles instead?
00:54:821 (1,3) - make symmetrical? (also change 00:56:767 (4) - if you decide to change this)
01:05:199 (1) - same as 00:53:525 (3) -
01:17:686 (4) - move to 01:17:686 (4) - since it sounds less awkward imo
01:18:172 (1,3) - make symmetrical
01:42:659 (3,1) - ^

[Normal]

00:06:659 (3,4) - doesn't make sense that this looks different from 00:01:470 (4,5) - and the others, i would suggest that you make it the same as the other ones since there is no variation in sound.
00:31:470 (7) - Add NC?
00:37:470 (3,5) - would look nicer w/ symmetry imo
01:11:524 (4,5,6) - the finishes aren't really needed since there are no crashed in the music at those points
01:21:902 (4,5,6) - ^

[Hard]

00:00:335 (1,2,3,4) - same as in the Normal diff, i would recommend that you use this pattern for this guitar phrase when it comes up
00:22:064 (3,4) - you could replace these with the same pattern as 00:21:091 (1,2) - , since they're the same sound
00:34:551 (2,4) - overlap?
01:47:686 (3) - since there's a fill here, you could change it to this: https://puu.sh/wHbYt/fb3b9042f7.PNG

I won't be modding Insane since my headache and lack of sleep is preventing me from doing so x_x
GL!

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

@Beomsan no problem, i understand that

AzureDoctor wrote:
Returning M4M

[General]
All good
[Easy]
00:07:632 (3,1) - blanket is slightly off
00:11:848 (3,1) - would look nicer if these were symmetrical
00:13:307 (1,4) - ^
00:17:037 (3,1) - ^ it's not very necessary here imo
00:19:632 (3,1) - ^
00:53:525 (3) - I feel like the rhythm here should be more dense since there's a fill. maybe change it to circles instead? it's should be too dificult for newbies if there are 4 circles i think
00:54:821 (1,3) - make symmetrical? (also change 00:56:767 (4) - if you decide to change this) no thanks
01:05:199 (1) - same as 00:53:525 (3) - i don't want to emphasis too much drums especially for a easy diff
01:17:686 (4) - move to 01:17:686 (4) - since it sounds less awkward imo it's should be confusing for the player tbh there will be a big gap
01:18:172 (1,3) - make symmetrical
01:42:659 (3,1) - ^
[Normal]
00:06:659 (3,4) - doesn't make sense that this looks different from 00:01:470 (4,5) - and the others, i would suggest that you make it the same as the other ones since there is no variation in sound. i wanted to change for start the flow
00:31:470 (7) - Add NC?
00:37:470 (3,5) - would look nicer w/ symmetry imo i tried but i don't like this
01:11:524 (4,5,6) - the finishes aren't really needed since there are no crashed in the music at those points i make like the garden's diff and it's sound good tbh w
01:21:902 (4,5,6) - ^ ^
[Hard]
00:00:335 (1,2,3,4) - same as in the Normal diff, i would recommend that you use this pattern for this guitar phrase when it comes up i like, like this :3
00:22:064 (3,4) - you could replace these with the same pattern as 00:21:091 (1,2) - , since they're the same sound i wanted to change
00:34:551 (2,4) - overlap? you mean "stack", no this overlap is cool and we can see better the slider
01:47:686 (3) - since there's a fill here, you could change it to this: https://puu.sh/wHbYt/fb3b9042f7.PNG i prefer keep consistency and the guitar is more strong so we don't here well the fill
I won't be modding Insane since my headache and lack of sleep is preventing me from doing so x_x no problem w
GL!

No reply mean fixed!~

Thanks for modding!!~

AzureDoctor

196 posts

Joined January 2016

AzureDoctor 8 years ago

Oh yeah another thing I forgot to mention in my mod:

There is a huge difficulty gap between the hard and insane diffs. I think this may be due to the lack of major distance emphasis used in the hard diff.

You can do what you want, but I would suggest that you: 1) make a light insane of about 4* or 2) use more distance emphasis in the hard diff.

Just a suggestion, so please take this with a grain of salt.

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

AzureDoctor wrote:
Oh yeah another thing I forgot to mention in my mod:

There is a huge difficulty gap between the hard and insane diffs. I think this may be due to the lack of major distance emphasis used in the hard diff.

You can do what you want, but I would suggest that you: 1) make a light insane of about 4* or 2) use more distance emphasis in the hard diff.

Just a suggestion, so please take this with a grain of salt.

I'll think about it, don't worry~

Yuuya_ke

251 posts

Joined May 2015

Yuuya_ke 8 years ago

ok instead of editing the placeholder I'll double post here M4M

Garden's Insane

00:25:794 (3,4) - I notice that you arranged it like this since 3 and end of 4 both have guitar, why not do the same for 00:36:172 (5,6) - ? (unless you feel that it works fine the way it is; 00:25:794 (3,4) - just stands out a lot

00:48:010 (2,3,4) - why is it that this calls for a larger jump than 00:58:389 (2,3,4) - ?

01:31:145 (1) - naturally I'd use slider leniency to snap to the next object for this but it angles downward for the part I would follow, making this a little more difficult than the jumps after 01:31:145 (1,1) - imo

oh sht I accidentally posted instead of preview hold up lemme edit

Hard

00:05:199 (2,3) - why is there a jump when both objects are mapped to the guitar, which doesn't change since they play the same note

00:30:010 (1) - I don't think this part is worth placing such increased spacing since it's only the addition of a guitar strum

00:32:767 (1) - this would be a pretty ideal place to increase spacing since guitars are reintroduced as the main thing

00:39:253 (1,2,3) - this gets no jump, while 00:40:226 (5,1) - this does? they're like the same thing

01:49:632 (3,4) - ah I don't think using different amount of repeats for repeating sliders are good for the player

Easy

00:13:307 (1) - I don't like how sliders, like the one in this timeline position, end on such a weak sound. normally that's what sliders are supposed to do, but it's an Easy difficulty, and it just makes playability difficult. take 01:25:956 (1) - for example. it ends on vocal and guitar support, so it's completely fine. but stuff like 00:13:307 (1) - ends on such weak guitar accompaniment that it makes the hitnormal sound misplaced

and then I skipped Normal 'cause it looks fine. good luck with your eroge meme

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

rickyrox3 wrote:
ok instead of editing the placeholder I'll double post here M4M yep, i saw~

Hard

00:05:199 (2,3) - why is there a jump when both objects are mapped to the guitar, which doesn't change since they play the same note but the guitar density increase

00:30:010 (1) - I don't think this part is worth placing such increased spacing since it's only the addition of a guitar strum i wanted to emphasis more the guitar because at this moment the guitar is important

00:32:767 (1) - this would be a pretty ideal place to increase spacing since guitars are reintroduced as the main thing

00:39:253 (1,2,3) - this gets no jump, while 00:40:226 (5,1) - this does? they're like the same thing

01:49:632 (3,4) - ah I don't think using different amount of repeats for repeating sliders are good for the player there is just 1 more renverse so tbh i think it's fine

Easy

00:13:307 (1) - I don't like how sliders, like the one in this timeline position, end on such a weak sound. normally that's what sliders are supposed to do, but it's an Easy difficulty, and it just makes playability difficult. take 01:25:956 (1) - for example. it ends on vocal and guitar support, so it's completely fine. but stuff like 00:13:307 (1) - ends on such weak guitar accompaniment that it makes the hitnormal sound misplaced i don't see a problem about these sliders i tried to make sense with all the sliders, there are some sliders like this 01:25:956 (1) - which end on the red tick for emphasis important sounds (guitar, vocals, drums ..) and of course i want to be consistent lul

and then I skipped Normal 'cause it looks fine. good luck with your eroge meme Thx :p

No reply mean fixed!~

Thanks for modding!~

QuL_kuluru

36 posts

Joined July 2016

QuL_kuluru 8 years ago

ShogunMoon wrote:
QuL_kuluru wrote:
Need Mod??
Yes!~

Which difficulty should I mod?

I can modify all the difficulty

(I can't speak English well)

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

QuL_kuluru wrote:
Which difficulty should I mod?

I can modify all the difficulty

(I can't speak English well)

should be nice if you can mod all the difficulties~

DeviousPanda

Elite Mapper

347 posts

Joined September 2014

DeviousPanda 8 years ago

From Modreqs:
M4M with this: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/638443

Easy

I'm not good at modding easy diffs so im just gonna nitpick at some subjective atheistics:

00:18:497 (1) - slider shape feels a bit too sharp here

00:57:416 (1,2,3) - circular flow breaks here when its been present for the rest of the map

01:32:443 (4) - slider shape feels a bit off here as well

Normal

Same as easy, looks good so i'm gonna nitpick at some small stuff

00:13:794 (2) - this slider shape is different to this one (00:11:848 (4) - ) and this one (00:17:037 (4) - ) maybe keep these consistent throughout the map?

00:19:632 (4) - the direction on this slider makes it weird to play

The CS felt a bit small on this map

Hard

00:01:470 (1) - maybe put a note on the white tick before this slider like you did with the previous combo here (00:00:335 (1,2,3,4) - )

01:15:578 (1,3) - any reason for these slider shapes?

01:25:956 (1) - shape feels a bit weird here too

01:37:307 (4) - distance before and after this circle is different, whereas on this combo: (01:37:470 (5,6,7) - ) the distance is the same with the exact same sound, maybe keep the spacing consistent?

01:40:712 (7) - slider shape feels a bit too sharp

01:43:307 (7) - flow?

Garden's Insane

Honestly i cant find anything to criticise in this map <3

Hope this helps!

Kin

Beatmap Nominator

2,629 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 8 years ago

Volta wrote:
quick recheck (no kd)

[Kin's Muzukashii]
00:54:497 - according to your reply, a don should be present here.

woops, deleted by mistake, anyway, it's should be fixed now.
thanks Volta \o/

Muzukashii update

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TitleUnicode:れみぜら！(ShortVer.)
Artist:solfa feat. Misato Aki
ArtistUnicode:solfa feat.美郷あき
Creator:ShogunMoon
Version:Kin's Muzukashii
Source:ワールド・エレクション
Tags:world election whirlpool 10th anniversary eroge opening visual novel Garden Kin short version Yakushi Ruri Amagasaki Urara Hashizaki Tooru Nemoto Katsunori
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Garden

osu! Alumni

1,368 posts

Joined June 2013

Garden 8 years ago

MashaSG wrote:
Garden's hai tai

ufufuf this BG fufufu

00:09:902 (4) - If you ctrl+G this slider circular flow would be better yea that makes visual flow better but spacing would be too high for the very start of the map
00:34:064 (1) - 00:36:659 (1) - These sounds are the same, why you map them differently? for variation, 00:23:686 (1) - 00:34:064 (1) - are consistent and so are 00:26:280 (1) - 00:36:659 (1) -
01:07:470 - You can emphasize "you" vocal here as previous vocals were only one word length I make it a reversed slider now.
01:45:253 (1) - This slider can touch bar that shows hit accuracy modified a bit
Funny diff, enjoyed playing it ty

rickyrox3 wrote:
Garden's Insane

00:25:794 (3,4) - I notice that you arranged it like this since 3 and end of 4 both have guitar, why not do the same for 00:36:172 (5,6) - ? (unless you feel that it works fine the way it is; 00:25:794 (3,4) - just stands out a lot um yea the pattern variation works just fine to me..

00:48:010 (2,3,4) - why is it that this calls for a larger jump than 00:58:389 (2,3,4) - ? I tried to make them similar now.

01:31:145 (1) - naturally I'd use slider leniency to snap to the next object for this but it angles downward for the part I would follow, making this a little more difficult than the jumps after 01:31:145 (1,1) - imo intended, a bit hard but it's not that unbalanced so that should be okay.

thankss

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Volta

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Joined March 2014

Volta 8 years ago

The drum mini-game looks good now. Good luck.

Taiko'd~

Shunao

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Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

DeviousPanda wrote:
From Modreqs:
M4M with this: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/638443 Okaay no problem, i'm going to mod it when i would have time

Easy
I'm not good at modding easy diffs so im just gonna nitpick at some subjective atheistics:

00:18:497 (1) - slider shape feels a bit too sharp here

00:57:416 (1,2,3) - circular flow breaks here when its been present for the rest of the map that's the point because i wanted to change so i make a blanket

01:32:443 (4) - slider shape feels a bit off here as well

Normal
Same as easy, looks good so i'm gonna nitpick at some small stuff

00:13:794 (2) - this slider shape is different to this one (00:11:848 (4) - ) and this one (00:17:037 (4) - ) maybe keep these consistent throughout the map? no i don't like to keep the same sliders, it's not my style

00:19:632 (4) - the direction on this slider makes it weird to play

The CS felt a bit small on this map but i like it

Hard
00:01:470 (1) - maybe put a note on the white tick before this slider like you did with the previous combo here (00:00:335 (1,2,3,4) - ) i make this because on the beginning there is a sound and after i follow the guitar so i don't want to add a note

01:15:578 (1,3) - any reason for these slider shapes? because it's looks good w

01:25:956 (1) - shape feels a bit weird here too

01:37:307 (4) - distance before and after this circle is different, whereas on this combo: (01:37:470 (5,6,7) - ) the distance is the same with the exact same sound, maybe keep the spacing consistent? the guitar is more strong here 01:37:470 (5) - that 01:38:118 (7)

01:40:712 (7) - slider shape feels a bit too sharp

01:43:307 (7) - flow? i prefer keep this it's look good imo

Hope this helps!

No reply mean fixed!~

Yes! Thanks for modding!~

Volta wrote:
The drum mini-game looks good now. Good luck.

Taiko'd~

Now we just need bns for standard ;w; (and some mods, i think lol)

Kin

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Kin 8 years ago

Thanks papa Volta \o/

Kurai

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Kurai 8 years ago

[Insane]
- Combo colour 1 is too bright, it sometimes blend with the bright parts of the backgroud. Make it a bit darker please.
- 01:16:064 (1) - This pattern is too close from the top border and can be overlapped by the score numbers in some skins. (not with the default skin, though it does not hurt to move it away).

[Hard]
- 00:00:335 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - why aren't you following the same pattern with the claps in those two patterns? The rhythm is the same in both. It does sound weird.
- 00:05:686 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^
- Why do you have a jump between 00:40:226 (5,1) - but not between 00:39:578 (2,3) - (instead you have a jump between 00:39:253 (1,2) - ). It does not make any sense. I believe the jump is here to emphasie the cymbals; therefore it is okay to have one at 00:40:226 (5,1) - , but it mean you should also have one at 00:39:578 (2,3) - .
- 01:11:686 - Consider having a finish here (auto, auto).
- 01:19:470 - ^
- 01:22:064 - ^

[Easy]
- Please, add more breaks in this difficulty. You should allow the player to breath a bit in Easy difficulties, but in this one, there is barely any break above 1/1.

Kurai

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Kurai 8 years ago

J'vais pas vu qu't'étais FR mdr dsl, j'aurais pu mod en français. M'enfin bon.

Shunao

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Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

Kurai wrote:
J'vais pas vu qu't'étais FR mdr dsl, j'aurais pu mod en français. M'enfin bon.

tkt xd

Shunao

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Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

Kurai wrote:
[Insane]
- Combo colour 1 is too bright, it sometimes blend with the bright parts of the backgroud. Make it a bit darker please. okay (j'me le disais aussi)

[Hard]
- 00:00:335 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - why aren't you following the same pattern with the claps in those two patterns? The rhythm is the same in both. It does sound weird. au début je préfère mapper sur la guitare car les claps ne sont pas vraiment important, elle a plus envie d'être mapper que les claps j'pense, et elle ramène bcp plus de rythme
- 00:05:686 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^ ^
- Why do you have a jump between 00:40:226 (5,1) - but not between 00:39:578 (2,3) - (instead you have a jump between 00:39:253 (1,2) - ). It does not make any sense. I believe the jump is here to emphasie the cymbals; therefore it is okay to have one at 00:40:226 (5,1) - , but it mean you should also have one at 00:39:578 (2,3) - . Yep
- 01:11:686 - Consider having a finish here (auto, auto). ça sonne bien :p
- 01:19:470 - ^
- 01:22:064 - ^

[Easy]
- Please, add more breaks in this difficulty. You should allow the player to breath a bit in Easy difficulties, but in this one, there is barely any break above 1/1. Bien-sûr! (j'en ai mis 1 ;w; je sais pas où en mettre d'autres..)

Merciiii~

Garden

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Garden 8 years ago

fixed that one, thanks!
@Shogun you can handle the combo colour for me, not sure if it has already been modified before my redownload lol

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TitleUnicode:れみぜら！(ShortVer.)
Artist:solfa feat. Misato Aki
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Creator:ShogunMoon
Version:Garden's Insane
Source:ワールド・エレクション
Tags:world election whirlpool 10th anniversary eroge opening visual novel Garden Kin short version Yakushi Ruri Amagasaki Urara Hashizaki Tooru Nemoto Katsunori
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Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

Garden wrote:
fixed that one, thanks!
@Shogun you can handle the combo colour for me, not sure if it has already been modified before my redownload lol

already fixed lol

Kurai

osu! Alumni

7,734 posts

Joined March 2009

Kurai 8 years ago

Voilà ta bulle :3

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

Kurai wrote:
Voilà ta bulle :3

Yaay mercii!~ c:

Kin

Beatmap Nominator

2,629 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 8 years ago

Muzukashii

osu file format v14

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Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

update~

Kurai

osu! Alumni

7,734 posts

Joined March 2009

Kurai 8 years ago

Looks like the broken slider has been fixed; rebubbled!

Shunao

1,971 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

if someone want the metadata on the official site web~

metadata

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,818 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 8 years ago

insaen
01:07:307 (4) - really shouldnt be silencing the reverse of a slider like ever

01:06:334 (1,2,3) - make enough sense as a hold thing, but a reverse implies there's a sound actually being mapped on 1/4 like 01:05:686 (1) - 01:08:280 (2) - surrounding this lol
this kind of thign would be more ok

hard
try uh going with like 35% volume for the whole first section. hitsounds are a lot louder than the song, which is kinda offputting. can raise it back to 50% at 00:09:416 - though
00:09:578 (2) - may be better to prioritize the new instrument since it stands out way more than the red tick guitar thing (and because 1 mapped the new sounds)
01:23:037 (8,9,10) - triple should be leading into the downbeat. you're mapping nothing and ignoring the song's actual 1/4 lolz
01:49:956 (4) - easier to interpret if both 3 and 4 had the same number of reverses. can just cut one off from 4 and add a circle on the end to do that

the hitsound thing applies on normal and easy too

call me back!!

Shunao

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Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 8 years ago

pishifat wrote:
hard
try uh going with like 35% volume for the whole first section. hitsounds are a lot louder than the song, which is kinda offputting. can raise it back to 50% at 00:09:416 - though
00:09:578 (2) - may be better to prioritize the new instrument since it stands out way more than the red tick guitar thing (and because 1 mapped the new sounds)
01:23:037 (8,9,10) - triple should be leading into the downbeat. you're mapping nothing and ignoring the song's actual 1/4 lolz ;w;
01:49:956 (4) - easier to interpret if both 3 and 4 had the same number of reverses. can just cut one off from 4 and add a circle on the end to do that

the hitsound thing applies on normal and easy too

call me back!!

all fixed! thanks!!~

(100 posts, nice)

Garden

osu! Alumni

1,368 posts

Joined June 2013

Garden 8 years ago

fixed thanks!

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:れみぜら！(ShortVer.)
Artist:solfa feat. Misato Aki
ArtistUnicode:solfa feat.美郷あき
Creator:ShogunMoon
Version:Garden's Insane
Source:ワールド・エレクション
Tags:world election whirlpool 10th anniversary eroge opening visual novel Garden Kin short version Yakushi Ruri Amagasaki Urara Hashizaki Tooru Nemoto Katsunori
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422,274,101037,1,2,0:0:0:0:
461,83,101199,2,0,P|464:45|446:-6,1,80,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
306,34,101524,5,6,0:1:0:0:
306,34,101686,1,2,0:1:0:0:
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337,207,102497,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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153,209,103470,1,2,3:2:0:0:
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4,142,106226,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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btw shouldn't title be 「れみぜら！」ShortVer. according to the pic you provided?

Shunao

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Shunao 8 years ago

Garden wrote:
btw shouldn't title be 「れみぜら！」ShortVer. according to the pic you provided?

yep, fixed thanks~

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Garden 8 years ago

you didn't change romanized title tho

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Shunao 8 years ago

Garden wrote:
you didn't change romanized title tho

i can't add "「" "」"

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Kurai

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Kurai 8 years ago

Alright, I checked the metadata by myself since the video you provided in OP is not available anymore.

Here is an official metadata source from the website of the company producing the game: https://whirlpool.co.jp/worldelection/download/

You can see that:

Artist: solfa feat.美郷あき
Title: 「れみぜら！」ShortVer.

Now comes the problem of the English transcription of Japanese script. Especially "「" and "」".
"「" and "」" are called kagikakko in Japanese and they are the Japanese quotation marks. The Japanese decided to adopt those in the 19th century when translation from European languages where getting more and more common, and so were quotation marks. Quotation marks did not exist in Japanese before, and western quotation marks was not adapted to the Japanese script as it can be written both horizontally and vertically. That's why they invented the kagikakko. Long story short, kagikakko should be transcribed to the usual quotation marks of the language you are transcribing to, here it's english so you should use "".

Therefore:

Artist (romanised): solfa feat.Misato Aki
Title (romanised): "Remizera!"ShortVer.

(I checked with IamKwaN, it's better not to put a space in the romanisation if there is none in the original artist, though it won't be DQ'd if you don't since it would follow standard western romanisation rules).

Shunao

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Shunao 8 years ago

title changed! Thanks IamKwaN and Kurai :p

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zz

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Shunao 8 years ago

edit: okay, fixed~

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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Kin 8 years ago

really? It's not a double post if I post :c

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pishifat 8 years ago

:c

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\o/

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Felicitations

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grats

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gratz!!

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Page 9 ~ lul

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Ay grats!

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Gaia 8 years ago

First qualify! congrats ^^/

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Congratulations!

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wow Grats!

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Thanks guys!~ lul

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Kurai 8 years ago

ShogunMoon wrote:

edit: okay, fixed~

Why is it not fine to have a space after the dot in the artist field but it is fine to have one after the quotation mark in the title even though there is no space after the kagikakko?

Grats anyway!

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o/

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yeah finally aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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IControl 8 years ago

Hey just some things I noticed with Kin's oni that i thought was weird

00:49:145 (283,284,285,286,287) - aren't these 1/2 notes 00:59:524 (337,338,339,340,341) -

01:30:902 (560) - I think this could be del there's no strong sound here.

01:42:334 - shouldn't this part be similar to this part 00:16:713 - Maybe you're trying to not make it feel like copy and paste but its way to structurally different

Sorry if this gets disqualified

but the map could be better imo

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Kin 8 years ago

IControl wrote:
Hey just some things I noticed with Kin's oni that i thought was weird

00:49:145 (283,284,285,286,287) - aren't these 1/2 notes 00:59:524 (337,338,339,340,341) -
maps would be really boring in taiko if everthing was exactly like the song. You sure have to follow the song, but you have the right to have your own interpretation of the song. Using 5 notes as 1/4 here instead of boring 1/2 3 notes is a way to make transition between different part of the song. And also make a better build up for the next part of the song
01:30:902 (560) - I think this could be del there's no strong sound here.
actually using this note is mostly to emphasize the strong finisher here 01:31:145 (562) - . the k here 01:30:821 (559,561) - have more emphasis with this d 01:30:902 (560) - (because it's the only k on this pattern. So, the k are placed on white tick and red tick aka 1/2 ; and a simple d between them. The d sure does not exist in the song (we're not playing std btw) but is here to emphasis the k, which is here to emphasis the D 01:31:145 (562) -
01:42:334 - shouldn't this part be similar to this part 00:16:713 - Maybe you're trying to not make it feel like copy and paste but its way to structurally different
it'd be boring af if I do the same thing on both part. Structure might be a little different, but the focus is still the same.

Sorry if this gets disqualified but the map could be better imo

tho, thanks for your concern!

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Xayler 8 years ago

Grats on 1st ranked!

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Xayler wrote:
Grats on 1st ranked!

Thanks Xayler!!~ \o/

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