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Yunomi with Momobako&miko - Soumatou Labyrinth [Taiko]

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yuzu__rinrin
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komasy wrote:

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Kantan done.
add tag : "yuzu__rinrin" please~ ><
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Toorun12
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Joined June 2017
Toorun12

komasy wrote:

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いやーちゃんと書けてるか不安であるが・・・

曲はステキである
全体的な感想としては，24分があるというのはosuにおいて
非常に珍しいように感じた　もちろん絶対にそこを生かしてほしい

00:03:201 -
osuではどうか分からないけれども，前半から結構重たい気がする．
以下，4点に分けて述べる

00:03:751 -　
(7)と(8)の間にはkがあって良いと思う
この改善をする場合は9～12で16分を打ちにくくなるので
平行して(9)~(11)を削除する必要がある

00:06:376 - 　
ここの並び(17~20)がk_kkkとなっているが，kkk_kの可能性も考えた
2小節前(6~8)の部分でのリズムがk_k_k(旋律がk_kkk)なので，できれば
(k_kkk)と違うリズムを刻む場合に利用すると良いと思う

00:07:876 -
(24)を面としているので，ここから徐々に面が増えてほしい
Editモードだとヒットサウンドが違うので似合うかについては
保証できないが，(29)や(32)は面のほうが良い可能性がある
これは，(40～44)の部分でkではなくdを混ぜたフレーズを使う場合には
とても重要

00:10:876 -
(37~42)は7連続で旋律意識したほうが良いと考える
現状のkkk_kkkの区切りよりは良いし，kkdkkkdのように面を混ぜてもよい
もしそうする場合は(42)~(44)での3打をdkdkdという形に持っていく
重すぎるかもしれないが，前奏の最初が重たいためこれでもよいのではないか


00:15:376 - 　　(52)~(55)の部分は，d___d_k_d → dk_kd_d_d というのが良いと思う
00:18:376 (67) - 　　(67)~(73)が，この先8.2秒間で密度上がるしd_k_d_k_kくらいの緩さが望ましい

00:25:876 (119) -
kddkの24分はこの曲のウリかもしれない
この先のdkkdの24分に合わせてこのように取っていると考えられる
このパートにおいて(126)が旋律の変化ポイントであるので
125と126の色を変えるのは適切だ
しかし，これをより強調するために，123と124の色を統一する必要があると思う
133～136と旋律が異なるため，こちらだけこのように感じた

00:27:376 (130) -
ここも(129)から(130)は逆(d→k)があると思ったが，ここはこのままで良かった
この先の譜面を見ていたら気が変わった
よくよく考えたら(130)は小節頭だし面であるべきだ

00:28:126 (137) -
136～138との面連続に違和感がなければ面を採用したい
これは超個人差なので非常に分かれるのだが

00:31:126 (156) -
156~160は絶対に後半サビでのみ魅せるべきだと思う
これだけ特徴的な配置を最初っから推すのは怖い
後半の魅せの切り札にして

00:43:126 (231) -
(235)が大音符にしたいけどやっちゃダメなんだよなたぶん
231～234での音が24分の特殊にしてはあまり重要視されないと感じた
231～234の k_d_d_d______k → k_____d__d__k とかでどうでしょうか？
この提案は，ここだけでなく3ヶ所に影響するため判断は慎重に行ってほしい
もちろん，現在統一されている三ヶ所すべてを統一する必要はないので
一部分を変えるという方針もあり

01:05:251 (360) -
360と361の間はkで拾いたい，364～365の間も同様に埋めたい，366を大音符にしたい
なかなか休憩的な雰囲気が出ている場面でありながら(356)などの16分が存在し
この部分がスカスカすぎるように感じたのが一つの原因

part 2
01:13:501 (42) -
(42)か(43)大音符にしたいよね～～次郎勢なら間違いなくどっちも大音符にしてる
osuはどうか分からない

01:14:626 (46) -
(46)と(47)みたいな偶数のつなぎも個人的にはラストのために取っておきたいかも
サビ始まったばかりだし46～は d__dk_d_みたいな今までと同じリズムか
似せたリズムがいいと思う
序盤は軽く，中盤はリズムよく，終盤は複雑なリズムで撃墜する，みたいなのが
流れ的に良い気がした

01:18:376 (73) -
前項の要領でいくと，この小節をどのようにするかだが，個人的な改善例としては
A. ddk_ddk_K___k_d_
B. d_k_d_k_kkd_k___
C. d_kkd_k_k_ddk___
などが挙げられる．参考にしていただきたい
抽象的には，(74)をkで取ると作りやすくなるかもしれない，ということだ

01:30:469 (149) -
いやーこれの頭抜きはちょっと厳しくない？ここは休憩であっても
旋律の5打活かしたいなと思う　もしやってみてダメだったとかなら申し訳ないです

01:32:626 (163) -
ここ強調したい，けど・・・過度なスクロールって入れたら怒られるよね
たしかマニュアルに書いてあった
この163を強調できるようなスクロールがあれば素敵だと思います

01:36:376 (183) -
ここは"kdd"の部分かな・・・・(183)がカッで始まってるし，難しいよね
自分なら，k_kdd_ddk → k_dkd_d_k　　とかにすると思い，ます
(174)から練り直す場合には
d__kd_k_d_k_kkd_d_k_kkd_K____ とかが最適だと思う


02:09:376 (347) - dもありかな・・・ここをdにするなら(351)の前にもdを挟んで，(355)もdにする

02:13:688 (364) - これは切るといいと思う　目的は，(365)が目立ってほしい

02:18:188 (380) -
(381)を使うくらいなら(382)~(384)を埋めてほしいかなあ
自分は(380)(381)を両方切って(382)からd_k_d_k_k にすると思う
旋律ばっかり推して申し訳ない意見ではあるが

02:19:876 (386) -
いやー(386)と(387)の間はなんかいるやろ　これは直観的ではあるが
(386)(387)の中間をdで埋めてみてほしい

02:21:188 (388) - 上記の提案を採用する場合，ここ(388) & (389)が __k_d → k_d_d になる


02:36:751 (473) -
ここここそまさに12分師匠を呼んでほしい，配色によっては478は消すかもしれない
具体例を挙げる, 473から
A. d_d_d_k__d__K_____
B. d_d_d_k_____K_____
C. d_k_k_d__d__K_____
などが良いと思う　自分ならCを選択する

03:03:188 (191) -
dk_kdがこの先にもう一個あるから191の次(頭)はあってもいいかと感じた
例えば，187からの表記で
現在) d___d___k___d_k___k_d___k___d_k_
例1) d___d___k_____k_d___d_d_k___d_k_
例2) d___d___k___d_k_d_k_k_d_k___d_k_
例3) d___d___k___k_d_d__kd_d_k___d_k_
など．

03:07:688 (208) -
dかなあ・・・もしくは，代わりに207をkにするか．
206~208に統一がほしいなと感じた　この場面はラスサビ終わり，
つまりウィニングランに相当するから，
極力エンドにふさわしい簡単なフレーズが来た方が完全勝利感があっていい

03:12:563 (222) -
同じく，223をkにするか，222を面にするか．
ただ，こっちはこのままの配置でもすごいいいと思うし，
いろいろ考えてこうした，っていう感じだったらこのまま推してほしい

とまあ，こんな感じです．
komasy
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komasy

Toorun12 wrote:

komasy wrote:

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いやーちゃんと書けてるか不安であるが・・・

曲はステキである
全体的な感想としては，24分があるというのはosuにおいて
非常に珍しいように感じた　もちろん絶対にそこを生かしてほしい

00:03:201 -
osuではどうか分からないけれども，前半から結構重たい気がする．
以下，4点に分けて述べる

00:03:751 -　
(7)と(8)の間にはkがあって良いと思う
この改善をする場合は9～12で16分を打ちにくくなるので
平行して(9)~(11)を削除する必要がある
keep

00:06:376 - 　
ここの並び(17~20)がk_kkkとなっているが，kkk_kの可能性も考えた
2小節前(6~8)の部分でのリズムがk_k_k(旋律がk_kkk)なので，できれば
(k_kkk)と違うリズムを刻む場合に利用すると良いと思う
いいですね、fixed

00:07:876 -
(24)を面としているので，ここから徐々に面が増えてほしい
Editモードだとヒットサウンドが違うので似合うかについては
保証できないが，(29)や(32)は面のほうが良い可能性がある
これは，(40～44)の部分でkではなくdを混ぜたフレーズを使う場合には
とても重要
現状既に面の割合は徐々に上げているのでkeep、軽い音がメインの地帯なのであんまり面の重さを出したくないです


00:10:876 -
(37~42)は7連続で旋律意識したほうが良いと考える
現状のkkk_kkkの区切りよりは良いし，kkdkkkdのように面を混ぜてもよい
もしそうする場合は(42)~(44)での3打をdkdkdという形に持っていく
重すぎるかもしれないが，前奏の最初が重たいためこれでもよいのではないか
ここも上と同じ理由でkeepです


00:15:376 - 　　(52)~(55)の部分は，d___d_k_d → dk_kd_d_d というのが良いと思う
音はなっていないため、序盤はシンプルにする方が好印象化と思われます

00:18:376 (67) - 　　(67)~(73)が，この先8.2秒間で密度上がるしd_k_d_k_kくらいの緩さが望ましい
そうすると00:22:876 - からの長複合の密度がかなり浮いて感じられるようになってしまうためkeep


00:25:876 (119) -
kddkの24分はこの曲のウリかもしれない
この先のdkkdの24分に合わせてこのように取っていると考えられる
このパートにおいて(126)が旋律の変化ポイントであるので
125と126の色を変えるのは適切だ
しかし，これをより強調するために，123と124の色を統一する必要があると思う
133～136と旋律が異なるため，こちらだけこのように感じた
ここの地帯に関しては、実際プレイしてみるとほとんど旋律の違いを感じなかったため、パターンを重視したほうがベターだと考えたためkeep

00:27:376 (130) -
ここも(129)から(130)は逆(d→k)があると思ったが，ここはこのままで良かった
この先の譜面を見ていたら気が変わった
よくよく考えたら(130)は小節頭だし面であるべきだ

00:28:126 (137) -
136～138との面連続に違和感がなければ面を採用したい
これは超個人差なので非常に分かれるのだが
最初迷っていましたが、この音符の両端には隣接した音符が無く、独立しているのでスネアを重視したほうがプレイ感が良いように感じました

00:31:126 (156) -
156~160は絶対に後半サビでのみ魅せるべきだと思う
これだけ特徴的な配置を最初っから推すのは怖い
後半の魅せの切り札にして
この配置がおかれている場所は全て同じ音が鳴っているためパターン化としてkeepです
しかし切り札というのもわからなくもないです…


00:43:126 (231) -
(235)が大音符にしたいけどやっちゃダメなんだよなたぶん
231～234での音が24分の特殊にしてはあまり重要視されないと感じた
231～234の k_d_d_d______k → k_____d__d__k とかでどうでしょうか？
この提案は，ここだけでなく3ヶ所に影響するため判断は慎重に行ってほしい
もちろん，現在統一されている三ヶ所すべてを統一する必要はないので
一部分を変えるという方針もあり
1/6で鳴っているため1/4のddkには少し違和感があるのと00:43:501 - は大音符の方が自然だと思うのでkeep

01:05:251 (360) -
360と361の間はkで拾いたい，364～365の間も同様に埋めたい，366を大音符にしたい
なかなか休憩的な雰囲気が出ている場面でありながら(356)などの16分が存在し
この部分がスカスカすぎるように感じたのが一つの原因
うーむ、確かに改善の余地はありますが、あまりピンとこないので現状keepです

part 2
01:13:501 (42) -
(42)か(43)大音符にしたいよね～～次郎勢なら間違いなくどっちも大音符にしてる
osuはどうか分からない
43はすでに大音符です

01:14:626 (46) -
(46)と(47)みたいな偶数のつなぎも個人的にはラストのために取っておきたいかも
サビ始まったばかりだし46～は d__dk_d_みたいな今までと同じリズムか
似せたリズムがいいと思う
序盤は軽く，中盤はリズムよく，終盤は複雑なリズムで撃墜する，みたいなのが
流れ的に良い気がした
分かります！が密度面の流れで少し不安感が残ります。また01:14:626 - を消すことでkd配色が三連続しているのが浮き彫りになってしまうため、もしそうするならこのあたりの配色の大幅変更が必要となるので現状はkeepです

01:18:376 (73) -
前項の要領でいくと，この小節をどのようにするかだが，個人的な改善例としては
A. ddk_ddk_K___k_d_
B. d_k_d_k_kkd_k___
C. d_kkd_k_k_ddk___
などが挙げられる．参考にしていただきたい
抽象的には，(74)をkで取ると作りやすくなるかもしれない，ということだ
上の提案をkeepしたため、こちらもいったんkeepとさせていただきます。ちなみにA：同じ配色が連続している&大音符と隣接して同じ色になっているのでkeep　B：密度でのバランスが悪くなる…？　C：悪くはないと思います　という感じです

01:30:469 (149) -
いやーこれの頭抜きはちょっと厳しくない？ここは休憩であっても
旋律の5打活かしたいなと思う　もしやってみてダメだったとかなら申し訳ないです
fixed

01:32:626 (163) -
ここ強調したい，けど・・・過度なスクロールって入れたら怒られるよね
たしかマニュアルに書いてあった
この163を強調できるようなスクロールがあれば素敵だと思います
ここ一帯低速なので少し難しいと思いました

01:36:376 (183) -
ここは"kdd"の部分かな・・・・(183)がカッで始まってるし，難しいよね
自分なら，k_kdd_ddk → k_dkd_d_k　　とかにすると思い，ます
(174)から練り直す場合には
d__kd_k_d_k_kkd_d_k_kkd_K____ とかが最適だと思う
01:36:563 - の音が一番高いのでkeep

02:09:376 (347) - dもありかな・・・ここをdにするなら(351)の前にもdを挟んで，(355)もdにする
最初の方の理由と同じでkeepです

02:13:688 (364) - これは切るといいと思う　目的は，(365)が目立ってほしい
スクロールの差異があるのですでに目立たせていると思います

02:18:188 (380) -
(381)を使うくらいなら(382)~(384)を埋めてほしいかなあ
自分は(380)(381)を両方切って(382)からd_k_d_k_k にすると思う
旋律ばっかり推して申し訳ない意見ではあるが
fixed

02:19:876 (386) -
いやー(386)と(387)の間はなんかいるやろ　これは直観的ではあるが
(386)(387)の中間をdで埋めてみてほしい
02:18:376 (381,382,383) - ここと同じリズムになってしまい、音は違うのに配色一緒？ってなりそうなのでkeep

02:21:188 (388) - 上記の提案を採用する場合，ここ(388) & (389)が __k_d → k_d_d になる
same

02:36:751 (473) -
ここここそまさに12分師匠を呼んでほしい，配色によっては478は消すかもしれない
具体例を挙げる, 473から
A. d_d_d_k__d__K_____
B. d_d_d_k_____K_____
C. d_k_k_d__d__K_____
などが良いと思う　自分ならCを選択する
1/4が鳴っていると思うので大きな違和感を感じました

03:03:188 (191) -
dk_kdがこの先にもう一個あるから191の次(頭)はあってもいいかと感じた
例えば，187からの表記で
現在) d___d___k___d_k___k_d___k___d_k_
例1) d___d___k_____k_d___d_d_k___d_k_
例2) d___d___k___d_k_d_k_k_d_k___d_k_
例3) d___d___k___k_d_d__kd_d_k___d_k_
など．
キック音をフォロー、最後へ向けて徐々に密度のフェードアウトを図っているのでkeep

03:07:688 (208) -
dかなあ・・・もしくは，代わりに207をkにするか．
206~208に統一がほしいなと感じた　この場面はラスサビ終わり，
つまりウィニングランに相当するから，
極力エンドにふさわしい簡単なフレーズが来た方が完全勝利感があっていい
音が少なく、スネアがかなり目立っているのでkeep

03:12:563 (222) -
同じく，223をkにするか，222を面にするか．
ただ，こっちはこのままの配置でもすごいいいと思うし，
いろいろ考えてこうした，っていう感じだったらこのまま推してほしい
ここは素直にフォローしたいのでno change

とまあ，こんな感じです．
初めてのmodお疲れさまでした…
ありがとうございました！！！
Charlotte
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タグに"Charlotte"を追加お願いします。BGを.osuで開いて、80~100辺りにすると顔がもっと見えるようになるので良いと思います。
Volume等はKomasyさんのを利用させて頂きました。
Y O U T A
109 posts
Joined September 2014
Y O U T A
hi~ from game chat~

[Fustuu]
・00:07:876 (11) - 02:07:876 (310) - k 00:01:876 (1) - と音が同じなので変化をさせなくても良いかと思いました。

・00:25:126 (52) - d 次のKを強調させるためです。

[Muzukashii]
・00:07:876 (12) - 02:07:876 (469) - k Futsuuの指摘といっしょです。

・00:24:938 (77,78) - k d 次のKを強調させるためです。

・01:09:938 (248) - d vocal follow

[Charlotte's Oni]
・00:49:501 (235) - k 次のDを強調させるためです。

・02:07:876 (624) - k 00:07:876 (24) - ここにkを置いているので統一させても良いかと思いました。

・03:12:938 (938,939) - d k 音合わせと、ほかのdiffも最後がkなので統一させても良いかと思いました。

[Labyrinth Oni]
・00:07:876 (24) - 02:07:876 (344) - k Futsuuの指摘といっしょです。

・00:49:501 (269) - k 次のDを強調するためです。

・01:49:501 (256) - 上記同様です

説得力のかけらもないmodでごめんなさい :o

ランクドがんばってください！
komasy
621 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
komasy

Y O U T A wrote:

SPOILER
hi~ from game chat~

[Fustuu]
・00:07:876 (11) - 02:07:876 (310) - k 00:01:876 (1) - と音が同じなので変化をさせなくても良いかと思いました。
kの連続し過ぎにより飽きを来ないようにするためkeep

・00:25:126 (52) - d 次のKを強調させるためです。
good

[Muzukashii]
・00:07:876 (12) - 02:07:876 (469) - k Futsuuの指摘といっしょです。
同じくkeep

・00:24:938 (77,78) - k d 次のKを強調させるためです。
ddにchanged

・01:09:938 (248) - d vocal follow
直前のddddkと対称配置を組んでいます

[Labyrinth Oni]
・00:07:876 (24) - 02:07:876 (344) - k Futsuuの指摘といっしょです。
同じくkeepです

・00:49:501 (269) - k 次のDを強調するためです。
他の同じ部分は音の違いによりKになっており、その部分との差異も表現したい&dの方が調和しているためkeep

・01:49:501 (256) - 上記同様です
same

説得力のかけらもないmodでごめんなさい :o

ランクドがんばってください！
ありがとうございました！
Charlotte
1,905 posts
Joined December 2013
Charlotte

Y O U T A wrote:

hi~ from game chat~

[Charlotte's Oni]
・00:49:501 (235) - k 次のDを強調させるためです。強調させるのは良い提案ですが、ここではdonが合うと思います。

・02:07:876 (624) - k 00:07:876 (24) - ここにkを置いているので統一させても良いかと思いました。一貫性を保ちながら配色を変更しているのでkeep

・03:12:938 (938,939) - d k 音合わせと、ほかのdiffも最後がkなので統一させても良いかと思いました。 fixed.

説得力のかけらもないmodでごめんなさい :o

ランクドがんばってください！
Thank you mod :)
uone
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2022
172 posts
Joined December 2014
uone
aiueo
Labyrinth Oni
00:04:501 (10) - d
00:07:501 (22) - ^
00:10:501 (33) - ^
01:04:501 (356) - ^
01:07:501 (2) - ^
kkよりkdの方が叩いたときすっきりするし、付点8分が目立ったりしていいかなと思いました

00:13:126 (43) - d　音が落ちてる気がしたので

00:24:376 (107) - k　ここkじゃないのはなんか違和感がありました

00:25:126 (115) - d　d_d_K の音を叩けると気持ちいかなと思いました

00:27:657 (131) - delete　はっきりした音がないように感じたので、ここは繋げなくていいと思いました(離した方が1/6が叩きやすいのもあります)
00:33:657 (174) - ^
02:52:032 (108) - delete　ここも上と同じような理由です
02:58:032 (158) - ^
03:00:094 (174) - ^

00:37:219 (201) - detele　個人的には取り除きたいです

01:15:282 (51) - delete　歌の音と音の隙間にあるので叩いてると少し違和感があります　この時点では素直にdd_kd_k_dk_kd_kでいいと思いました
01:21:282 (92) - ^

01:27:188 (132) - d
01:30:188 (148) - d　kkdの後にk_k_kと続いて違和感があったので
パターン意識してるのかなと思って一緒に指摘しましたが、違和感あったのは01:30:188 (148)だけです

01:43:376 - add d　1/3からの1/6なので、4連打で止めるのは少し違和感がありました　音もあるし置いた方がいいと思います

02:01:251 (330) - d
02:01:501 (332) - k　
1/3 1/6で意識するとこなので、終わりを強調した方がいいかなと思いました

があと低速がだいぶ遅くてきついので少しずつ緩くしてくれると嬉しいです><
komasy
621 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
komasy

uone wrote:

aiueo
Labyrinth Oni
00:04:501 (10) - d
00:07:501 (22) - ^
00:10:501 (33) - ^
01:04:501 (356) - ^
01:07:501 (2) - ^
kkよりkdの方が叩いたときすっきりするし、付点8分が目立ったりしていいかなと思いました
dの割合を徐々に増やしていくことで音圧の変化に対応しているので上の二つはkeep、した二つはchanged

00:13:126 (43) - d　音が落ちてる気がしたので
00:13:501 - で低温が鳴っているのをあえて拾ってない影響でここをdにすると少し違和感が生まれてしまうのと、クラップ音の方をフォローしたいのでkeep

00:24:376 (107) - k　ここkじゃないのはなんか違和感がありました
changed

00:25:126 (115) - d　d_d_K の音を叩けると気持ちいかなと思いました
最高に気持ち良いですね

00:27:657 (131) - delete　はっきりした音がないように感じたので、ここは繋げなくていいと思いました(離した方が1/6が叩きやすいのもあります)
00:33:657 (174) - ^
02:52:032 (108) - delete　ここも上と同じような理由です
02:58:032 (158) - ^
03:00:094 (174) - ^
上二つは1/2でのdk連続を防ぐためにもあまり消したくないです。下三つは前半の1/4+1/6パターンから変化を付ける目的ですのでkeep

00:37:219 (201) - detele　個人的には取り除きたいです
気持ちは分かりますが、ddkが三連続というのは気になります

01:15:282 (51) - delete　歌の音と音の隙間にあるので叩いてると少し違和感があります　この時点では素直にdd_kd_k_dk_kd_kでいいと思いました
01:21:282 (92) - ^
delete

01:27:188 (132) - d
01:30:188 (148) - d　kkdの後にk_k_kと続いて違和感があったので
パターン意識してるのかなと思って一緒に指摘しましたが、違和感あったのは01:30:188 (148)だけです
changed

01:43:376 - add d　1/3からの1/6なので、4連打で止めるのは少し違和感がありました　音もあるし置いた方がいいと思います
Kの打鍵感を保持したいですし、全体を通して1/6は4打で止めているのでここだけ5打というのも違和感があります

02:01:251 (330) - d
02:01:501 (332) - k　
1/3 1/6で意識するとこなので、終わりを強調した方がいいかなと思いました
changed

があと低速がだいぶ遅くてきついので少しずつ緩くしてくれると嬉しいです><
SV考えてみます
ありがとうございました！
yuzu__rinrin
943 posts
Joined July 2014
yuzu__rinrin
itiou zenbumita

[Futsuu]
  1. 01:38:626 (247) - ここdeleteしたくない？ (デカイbreak作る意味も込めて)
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:24:657 (75,76) - delete.
    00:24:938 (77,78) - move to 00:25:126 -
    breakを取りつつ、主要なdrumを取るっていうのはどうですか？
  2. 00:54:938 (201,202) - ctrl+g , 00:55:126 (202,203) - この部分をd---Kのパターンに。
    イメージ的に00:43:126 (154,155) - と統一させるような感じで。
[Charlotte's Oni]
  1. 00:30:188 - 00:36:188 - めちゃんこd入れたいんですけどどうですか(音のノビやら音やらで抜いてはいけない場所だと思いました。)
  2. 01:39:938 (490,491) - ctrl+g , 01:40:126 (491,492,493,494,495) - で一番目立っているのはkickかなって思ったのでd--ddddみたいな入りが自然かと思いました。
[Labyrinth Oni]
  1. 00:29:438 (142,143) - ctrl+g 143でポンって音を拾わないのはもったいないと思います。
  2. 00:31:969 (162,163) - move to 00:32:157 - , 一貫性として、ですがちょっと単純かもしれません。
  3. 00:35:438 (186,187) - ctrl+g 187のポポポポポン
  4. 01:44:157 (223) - ここkはどうですか？特にdrumも意識してなさそうなdだったので後ろでなってる謎の音に合わせてもよさそうです。
  5. 02:55:969 (141,142) - move to 02:56:157 - 前に書いたような奴。
(｡◕ˇдˇ​◕｡)/
komasy
621 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
komasy

yuzu__rinrin wrote:

SPOILER
itiou zenbumita

[Futsuu]
  1. 01:38:626 (247) - ここdeleteしたくない？ (デカイbreak作る意味も込めて)
    delete
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:24:657 (75,76) - delete.
    Spreadを考えるとここ何もないのは少し危ない気がします
    00:24:938 (77,78) - move to 00:25:126 -
    breakを取りつつ、主要なdrumを取るっていうのはどうですか？
    moved
  2. 00:54:938 (201,202) - ctrl+g , 00:55:126 (202,203) - この部分をd---Kのパターンに。
    イメージ的に00:43:126 (154,155) - と統一させるような感じで。
    fixed
[Labyrinth Oni]
  1. 00:29:438 (142,143) - ctrl+g 143でポンって音を拾わないのはもったいないと思います。
    fixed
  2. 00:31:969 (162,163) - move to 00:32:157 - , 一貫性として、ですがちょっと単純かもしれません。
    サビの8小節の折り返し地点ということでパターンを変えています。
  3. 00:35:438 (186,187) - ctrl+g 187のポポポポポン
    fixed
  4. 01:44:157 (223) - ここkはどうですか？特にdrumも意識してなさそうなdだったので後ろでなってる謎の音に合わせてもよさそうです。
    ここの配色を若干変更
  5. 02:55:969 (141,142) - move to 02:56:157 - 前に書いたような奴。
    同じくkeep
(｡◕ˇдˇ​◕｡)/
ありがとうございました！
asuasu_yura
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017
114 posts
Joined June 2013
asuasu_yura
こん 最高難易度だけ;3
[Labyrinth Oni]
00:43:501 (235) - そこまで大きい音でもなく1/6の後の大音符は叩きにくい感じもするのでkに変更した方がいいと思いました
00:55:501 (307) - ^
00:52:969 (288) - のkをボーカルに合わせる配置 00:53:063 - ここに移動させた方が叩きやすいと思いました、あとkではなくdの方が声にあってると思います
01:01:501 (346) - ポンって音に対してKを置いてるならここは鳴ってないのでDもしくはdにするべきだと思います
01:55:688 - k置いたほうが良いかも
03:00:657 - dよりkの方が良いとおもいます ここまで高い音鳴ってる気がするので
komasy
621 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
komasy

asuasu_yura wrote:

こん 最高難易度だけ;3
[Labyrinth Oni]
00:43:501 (235) - そこまで大きい音でもなく1/6の後の大音符は叩きにくい感じもするのでkに変更した方がいいと思いました
00:55:501 (307) - ^
00:52:969 (288) - のkをボーカルに合わせる配置 00:53:063 - ここに移動させた方が叩きやすいと思いました、あとkではなくdの方が声にあってると思います
スネアみたいな音もここになっていますし、移動させました。ただしdは連続するためkのままです
01:01:501 (346) - ポンって音に対してKを置いてるならここは鳴ってないのでDもしくはdにするべきだと思います
01:55:688 - k置いたほうが良いかも
ここの周辺をほかの部分とのパターン化のために変更しました。
03:00:657 - dよりkの方が良いとおもいます ここまで高い音鳴ってる気がするので
返信ナシはFixです。ありがとうございました！
mysterfish
64 posts
Joined August 2016
mysterfish
こんにちは～　チャットからです
あまりいい提案ではないかもしれませんが、ご了承下さい :o
SPOILER
[yzrin's Kantan ]
01:07:126 (62) - add k 01:55:126 (134)と同じ感じで取ったほうがいいと思いました
[Futsuu]
01:36:563 (244) - add k 01:30:563 と同じようにしてるのは分かりますが、こちらは音が大きめなので取っておいた方がいいと思います


02:13:501 (320) - add k こうすると次の展開にスムーズに移行できると感じました
[Muzukashii]
01:40:751 (371) - add d ここら辺にノーツを入れないのは少し違和感がありました。

02:12:938 (483) - delete プレイしてて不自然に感じました

03:07:407 (127) - delete ここら辺は1/2以下で埋めても大丈夫だと思います。

03:07:688 (128) - add k 上で削除したノーツの代わりです
[Charlotte's Oni]
00:18:001 (62) - change d この場所をkk と取ると、周りと浮いてしまってる気がしますので

00:47:157 (221,222) - change kd こうしたほうが打ちやすくなると思います。
[Labyrinth Oni]
01:45:657 (232) - add k 不自然な抜け方をしていると思ったので

01:54:938 (287,288) - change kd ボーカルに高低差があるので、配色を連続させるのは不自然だと感じました

02:12:938 (362) - delete プレイしてて不自然に感じました

02:33:188 (445,446) - change d k これも、ボーカルに高低差があるので・・・

以上です。Ranked頑張って下さい～
yuzu__rinrin
943 posts
Joined July 2014
yuzu__rinrin

mysterfish wrote:

こんにちは～　チャットからです
あまりいい提案ではないかもしれませんが、ご了承下さい :o
[yzrin's Kantan ]
01:07:126 (62) - add k 01:55:126 (134)と同じ感じで取ったほうがいいと思いました
座標よく分からないんですけど、いいたいことは分かったので少し調節しました。


以上です。Ranked頑張って下さい～
thank you for modding :3

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komasy
621 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
komasy

mysterfish wrote:

こんにちは～　チャットからです
あまりいい提案ではないかもしれませんが、ご了承下さい :o
SPOILER
[Futsuu]
01:36:563 (244) - add k 01:30:563 と同じようにしてるのは分かりますが、こちらは音が大きめなので取っておいた方がいいと思います
02:13:501 (320) - add k こうすると次の展開にスムーズに移行できると感じました
[Muzukashii]
01:40:751 (371) - add d ここら辺にノーツを入れないのは少し違和感がありました。
多分1/3の事を仰っているのだと思いますが、ここを1/2で拾うのには違和感があります。

02:12:938 (483) - delete プレイしてて不自然に感じました
直前までの流れを考えると無い方が不自然だと思います

03:07:407 (127) - delete ここら辺は1/2以下で埋めても大丈夫だと思います。
03:07:688 (128) - add k 上で削除したノーツの代わりです
dkdにしました。

[Labyrinth Oni]
01:45:657 (232) - add k 不自然な抜け方をしていると思ったので
自己判断で追加済みでした

01:54:938 (287,288) - change kd ボーカルに高低差があるので、配色を連続させるのは不自然だと感じました
dkにしています。kの部分にボーカルの高音を当てたいです

02:12:938 (362) - delete プレイしてて不自然に感じました
keep

02:33:188 (445,446) - change d k これも、ボーカルに高低差があるので・・・
ここはdにキックを当てたいため、kdにしています

以上です。Ranked頑張って下さい～
ありがとうございました！
返信ナシはFIXです
Charlotte
1,905 posts
Joined December 2013
Charlotte

yuzu__rinrin wrote:

itiou zenbumita

[Charlotte's Oni]
  1. 00:30:188 - 00:36:188 - めちゃんこd入れたいんですけどどうですか(音のノビやら音やらで抜いてはいけない場所だと思いました。) 最初は入れてたのですが、2回目のKiaiより易化させようなかなと思い削除してましたが戻しました。
  2. 01:39:938 (490,491) - ctrl+g , 01:40:126 (491,492,493,494,495) - で一番目立っているのはkickかなって思ったのでd--ddddみたいな入りが自然かと思いました。 fixed.
(｡◕ˇдˇ​◕｡)/

mysterfish wrote:

こんにちは～　チャットからです
あまりいい提案ではないかもしれませんが、ご了承下さい :o
SPOILER
[Charlotte's Oni]
00:18:001 (62) - change d この場所をkk と取ると、周りと浮いてしまってる気がしますので dkばかりだと変化に欠けますのでkkにしています。kdよりこのパートdk or kkのほうが良いかと思います。

00:47:157 (221,222) - change kd こうしたほうが打ちやすくなると思います。^

以上です。Ranked頑張って下さい～
Thank you mod :)

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Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
>Labyrinth Oni
* change hp to 5
* 00:43:501 - migh be a finisher such as 00:43:876 - here too since had similar sounds
* 00:55:501 - same above
* 01:27:188 (131,132) - emphasized between drum and pitch would be accurate more if you swap these
* 01:43:501 - like before
* 02:13:688 - high impact from sound, could be finisher imo.
* 03:01:501 - wanna finish this?

>Oni
* 00:37:876 - finish
* 01:07:688 - kat, same drum with 01:07:501 - and need alteration with 01:07:876 - this drum
* 02:01:626 (614,615) - recommend to delete these imo, since highest diff no had these. also here just flow goes off
* 02:31:688 (713,714) - choose 1 to be kat, to give alteration colors with the sounds. in case just like 01:07:688 -

just this for now, will continue later.
komasy
621 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
komasy

Surono wrote:

>Labyrinth Oni
* change hp to 5
Fixed

* 00:43:501 - migh be a finisher such as 00:43:876 - here too since had similar sounds
00: 43: 876 - there is a cymbal sound, but 00: 43: 501 - there is no it. And I think K after 1/6 is hard to beat.

* 00:55:501 - same above
＾

* 01:27:188 (131,132) - emphasized between drum and pitch would be accurate more if you swap these
good. swap

* 01:43:501 - like before
same

* 02:13:688 - high impact from sound, could be finisher imo.
I would like to emphasize 02:13:876 -

* 03:01:501 - wanna finish this?
There is no big sound and to emphasize 03:01:876 -
just this for now, will continue later.
Thank you for checking maps :)
I'm waiting for your continuation of check~ :)
Charlotte
1,905 posts
Joined December 2013
Charlotte

Surono wrote:

>Oni
* 00:37:876 - finish fixed.
* 01:07:688 - kat, same drum with 01:07:501 - and need alteration with 01:07:876 - this drum 01:07:688 -I changed kat only.I think ddk-kdk is good flow.(& for variety)
* 02:01:626 (614,615) - recommend to delete these imo, since highest diff no had these. also here just flow goes off fixed.
* 02:31:688 (713,714) - choose 1 to be kat, to give alteration colors with the sounds. in case just like 01:07:688 - same as above.

just this for now, will continue later.
Thank you mod :)

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Sylphi
osu! Alumni
3,304 posts
Joined February 2012
Sylphi
in-gameリクエストからの、簡単なチェック

[General]
  1. tagsの「桃箱」はArtistにもあるので、外しましょ！
[yzrin's Kantan]
  1. 00:35:251 (17) - 01:23:251 (87) - 02:47:251 (50) - 02:59:251 (70) - まあ、以前の似た所との一貫性も理由ですが、1/1のパタンが３、５の形で出るのもこの難易度では高い密度に属するんじゃないかと…
  2. 00:41:626 (27) - ボーカルもそうですが、他の音を考慮してもkに表現するに充分な音だと思います。実際にボーカルは以前のより低くても、似た音がある00:43:126 (30)ではkでしたし…
  3. 01:40:126 (112) - パタンがちょっと長くなるのもあるし、01:40:876 (113)の強調にも役に立つので、空白にしておくのも悪くないと思いますよ。
  4. 01:49:876 (126,127,128,129) - どちらかというと、全体的な感じはd k k dに近いですね。
  5. 01:55:126 (132) - finishを置くほど強い感じじゃないんです。実際に01:07:126 (61)にも使ってなかったので、一貫性のためにもなると思います。
[Futsuu]
  1. KantanとFutsuuの間の密度差が、一部の所でちょっと大きいな感じがします。一応、下でいくつか説明しますが、確実じゃないかもしれませんので、それを基準に適当に調整すればいいと思います。
  2. 00:04:876 (6) - 00:10:876 (16) - 俺が見るには、この２つ、似た感じの音パタンのようですので、違うhitsoundを使う必要はないと思います。
  3. 00:19:876 - 今のままだと、密度が少し高くなるので、ここのパートを、もうちょっとシンプルに行ったほうがいいと思います 例えば、00:19:876 (35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43)をo_o_o__oo_oooの感じにすると00:21:188で1/2が４連続に来るのは防げますし、00:22:688 (44,45,46,47,48,49)のも00:23:063 (46)を外すことで、自然に短くできると思います。
  4. 00:29:251 (65,66,67,68,69) - kiaiだからって、1/2の５連を使うのはちょっと考慮したほうが良さそうですね。実際、先例があったのか他のRankedマップを確認してもあまりなかったし…
    1. 00:35:251 (84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92) - これの場合は全体的に密度が高くなるので、修正は必要だと思います。
    2. 01:17:251 - 01:23:251 - 02:47:251 - 02:53:251 - 02:59:251 - 同じく
    3. 02:41:251 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21) - この場合、Kantanとの密度差も問題になるかもしれませんので、一部のは消すほうがいいと思います (https://sylphi.s-ul.eu/zT8IbWff.png vs https://sylphi.s-ul.eu/xMfLkPd6.png)
  5. 01:03:376 - 01:04:876 - 01:06:376 - 実際、マップできる音もあるし、以前の01:01:876のことや、01:07:876のことを考えても、無視できる音ではないと思います。
  6. 01:36:376 - d追加のあと01:36:563 (243)を01:36:938に移動及びdに変更。マップのスタイル上では、こっちのほうが自然だと思います。
  7. 01:32:063 (229) - remove? これはちょっと悩みましたが、00:29:251で言ったこともあって…
  8. 02:27:563 (343) - スタイル上、ボーカルに合わせて02:27:938に移したほうが自然だと思います。
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:04:688 (6,7) - 00:10:688 (19,20) - Futsuuと同じ意見です。
  2. 00:24:376 (74,75,76) - 俺にはちょっと違和感がありますね。実際、drumの音が強いのは00:24:376から３つの1/4だから、周りのノートをちょっと減らして、ooo_oの形でマップしたほうがいいんじゃないかと…
  3. 00:30:563 (103) - 00:36:563 (129) - remove? このパートの全体的な感じを考えると、このパタンは少し長くなってる気がします。
  4. 00:53:813 (197) - 一貫性のためにremove?
  5. 01:00:563 (225) - 上と同じ理由で、01:00:938に移動
  6. 01:42:626 (379) - 01:43:001 (381) - これだとちょっと奇妙な感じがしますね。これ外してボーカルだけを強調するパタンにするのはどうでしょ？
  7. 01:49:313 (408) - 似た感じの00:49:313でもノートはなかったので、外しましょ！
  8. 02:09:188 (472) - 02:10:126 (475) - 02:11:251 (478) - ここでは以前のパートとは違って、dが使われているんですが、正直に何を基準でマップされているのかは不明です。02:12:376を見る限り音の高低が基準のようですが、それだと、今のパタンはちょっと曖昧なものになってしまいます。だから、dに変更して見るのはどうでしょ？
  9. 02:10:688 (476,477) - これも上と同じ理由で、d kに変更
一応、これで全部ですが、低い難易度の密度が高いんじゃないかなって、ちょっと心配ですね。極めて個人的な意見だから、あとはBNさんに任せることにします。

modが遅くなったのと、短いことになったことに対しては本当に申し訳ありません。
komasy
621 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
komasy

Sylphi wrote:

SPOILER
in-gameリクエストからの、簡単なチェック

[General]
  1. tagsの「桃箱」はArtistにもあるので、外しましょ！
    fixed
[Futsuu]
  1. KantanとFutsuuの間の密度差が、一部の所でちょっと大きいな感じがします。一応、下でいくつか説明しますが、確実じゃないかもしれませんので、それを基準に適当に調整すればいいと思います。
  2. 00:04:876 (6) - 00:10:876 (16) - 俺が見るには、この２つ、似た感じの音パタンのようですので、違うhitsoundを使う必要はないと思います。
    前者と後者ではその部分の音ではなく曲全体的な音が変わっていて、それに合わせてdの割合を増やしていく目的です
  3. 00:19:876 - 今のままだと、密度が少し高くなるので、ここのパートを、もうちょっとシンプルに行ったほうがいいと思います 例えば、00:19:876 (35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43)をo_o_o__oo_oooの感じにすると00:21:188で1/2が４連続に来るのは防げますし、00:22:688 (44,45,46,47,48,49)のも00:23:063 (46)を外すことで、自然に短くできると思います。
    自分なりに変えました。
  4. 00:29:251 (65,66,67,68,69) - kiaiだからって、1/2の５連を使うのはちょっと考慮したほうが良さそうですね。実際、先例があったのか他のRankedマップを確認してもあまりなかったし…
    確かに推奨されていないらしいので削ります
    1. 00:35:251 (84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92) - これの場合は全体的に密度が高くなるので、修正は必要だと思います。
    2. 01:17:251 - 01:23:251 - 02:47:251 - 02:53:251 - 02:59:251 - 同じく
    3. 02:41:251 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21) - この場合、Kantanとの密度差も問題になるかもしれませんので、一部のは消すほうがいいと思います (https://sylphi.s-ul.eu/zT8IbWff.png vs https://sylphi.s-ul.eu/xMfLkPd6.png&#41;
      All fixed
  5. 01:03:376 - 01:04:876 - 01:06:376 - 実際、マップできる音もあるし、以前の01:01:876のことや、01:07:876のことを考えても、無視できる音ではないと思います。
    add d
  6. 01:36:376 - d追加のあと01:36:563 (243)を01:36:938に移動及びdに変更。マップのスタイル上では、こっちのほうが自然だと思います。
    現状の方がパターンのラストに相応しいと思います
  7. 01:32:063 (229) - remove? これはちょっと悩みましたが、00:29:251で言ったこともあって…
    01:32:438 - を消します。ddkが連続するので
  8. 02:27:563 (343) - スタイル上、ボーカルに合わせて02:27:938に移したほうが自然だと思います。
    02:30:563 - も同様に02:30:938 - へ
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:04:688 (6,7) - 00:10:688 (19,20) - Futsuuと同じ意見です。
    同様にkeep
  2. 00:24:376 (74,75,76) - 俺にはちょっと違和感がありますね。実際、drumの音が強いのは00:24:376から３つの1/4だから、周りのノートをちょっと減らして、ooo_oの形でマップしたほうがいいんじゃないかと…
    三打が連続するのが悩ましいのといいアクセントになっているのじゃないかと思うので現状keep
  3. 00:30:563 (103) - 00:36:563 (129) - remove? このパートの全体的な感じを考えると、このパタンは少し長くなってる気がします。
    good
  4. 00:53:813 (197) - 一貫性のためにremove?
    ボーカルのリズムが違うので一貫させる必要はないと思います
  5. 01:00:563 (225) - 上と同じ理由で、01:00:938に移動
    okay
  6. 01:42:626 (379) - 01:43:001 (381) - これだとちょっと奇妙な感じがしますね。これ外してボーカルだけを強調するパタンにするのはどうでしょ？
    Muzuだとできる範囲で曲を表現したい気持ちがありますのでkeep
  7. 01:49:313 (408) - 似た感じの00:49:313でもノートはなかったので、外しましょ！
    fixed
  8. 02:09:188 (472) - 02:10:126 (475) - 02:11:251 (478) - ここでは以前のパートとは違って、dが使われているんですが、正直に何を基準でマップされているのかは不明です。02:12:376を見る限り音の高低が基準のようですが、それだと、今のパタンはちょっと曖昧なものになってしまいます。だから、dに変更して見るのはどうでしょ？
    この静かな場面でdを多用するのは曲の雰囲気を崩しかねません。またdの割合を徐々に増やしていくことで次のパートへスムーズにつないでいます。
  9. 02:10:688 (476,477) - これも上と同じ理由で、d kに変更
    keep
一応、これで全部ですが、低い難易度の密度が高いんじゃないかなって、ちょっと心配ですね。極めて個人的な意見だから、あとはBNさんに任せることにします。

modが遅くなったのと、短いことになったことに対しては本当に申し訳ありません。
全然遅くないですし、とても参考になるmodでしたのでお気になさらずに…
yuzu__rinrin
943 posts
Joined July 2014
yuzu__rinrin

Sylphi wrote:

in-gameリクエストからの、簡単なチェック

[General]
  1. tagsの「桃箱」はArtistにもあるので、外しましょ！
[yzrin's Kantan]
  1. 00:35:251 (17) - 01:23:251 (87) - 02:47:251 (50) - 02:59:251 (70) - まあ、以前の似た所との一貫性も理由ですが、1/1のパタンが３、５の形で出るのもこの難易度では高い密度に属するんじゃないかと…
    残しておきたかったのはあるけど... deleteします
  2. 00:41:626 (27) - ボーカルもそうですが、他の音を考慮してもkに表現するに充分な音だと思います。実際にボーカルは以前のより低くても、似た音がある00:43:126 (30)ではkでしたし…
    change kしました。多分似た音の指摘は00:53:626 (44) - の方が説得力あったかもしれません(一応こことの一貫性を取るためにもchangeしました。)
  3. 01:40:126 (112) - パタンがちょっと長くなるのもあるし、01:40:876 (113)の強調にも役に立つので、空白にしておくのも悪くないと思いますよ。
    ここは完璧にfollowしないと完全に不安定な取り方になると思います。113の強調はよくわかりますが、何処の強調なのかをはっきりさせるにはここにノーツを置くことが最善だと考えます。
  4. 01:49:876 (126,127,128,129) - どちらかというと、全体的な感じはd k k dに近いですね。
    全体の感じがd-k-k-dはいいと思いますが、叩きやすい配置と考えるとd-d-k-kが一番いいかなぁと思います。
  5. 01:55:126 (132) - finishを置くほど強い感じじゃないんです。実際に01:07:126 (61)にも使ってなかったので、一貫性のためにもなると思います。
    一回目と二回目の差別化のためにfinishを使っています。実際に一回目の方では音がちょっと少ないのに対し二回目は結構なっているためそういう差別化も必要と思いました。

一応、これで全部ですが、低い難易度の密度が高いんじゃないかなって、ちょっと心配ですね。極めて個人的な意見だから、あとはBNさんに任せることにします。

modが遅くなったのと、短いことになったことに対しては本当に申し訳ありません。
Kantan見てくれる人少なかったので参考になりました、Thank you for modding ~ :3
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Labyr
186 posts
Joined February 2014
Labyr
オマタセしました。

[Charlotte's Oni]
  1. 00:27:563 (120,121,122) - change dkd　尺八に合わせた配置でなければ、直前で kkd は使ってるのでddkにしてみてはどうですか。
  2. 00:33:563 (155,156,157) - ^
  3. 00:43:501 (207) - remove finish　BIGにするほど目立つ音は鳴って無いと私は思いました
  4. 00:55:501 (269) - ^
  5. 01:01:501 (302) - ^
  6. 01:07:407 (318,319) - swap color?
  7. 01:19:594 (389) - move to 01:19:219 -, change d　follow drum.
  8. 01:37:313 - , 01:37:407 - add d
  9. 02:00:376 - ここから1/3ノーツを置いてもいいと思いました。Oniなのでd d k d d k d k k d ぐらいの簡単な配色なら問題ないかもしれません
  10. 02:43:594 (784) - move to 02:43:219 - , change d　same as 01:19:594 -
  11. 02:51:563 (832,833,834) - same as 00:27:563 -
  12. 02:57:563 (870,871,872) - ^
[Labyrinth Oni]
  1. 00:27:563 (131,132) - change d　d d dkkd のほうが直後の1/6の音が際立つと思いました。
    ただ、02:59:626 - からのと似たような配色になって単調気味になるかもしれないので、参考程度に留めていただければ
  2. 00:33:563 (174,175) - ^
  3. 00:29:157 (142) - add k　00:35:157 - に合わせて置いてもいいかもしれません
  4. 00:43:188 (232) - change k, 00:43:376 - add d　あえて置いてないとも思いましたが、直後のノーツ色がkatなので私は問題ないと思います。配色についてはポコポコ音にkatを割り当ててみました。
  5. 00:55:126 (303,304,305,306) - ^
  6. 01:01:188 (343) - change kat　ポコポコ音にkatを
  7. 01:37:313 - , 01:37:407 - add d
  8. 01:43:126 (216,217,218,219) - same as 00:43:188 -
  9. 02:13:126 (362) - change d?　feeling
  10. 02:51:563 (99,100) - same as 00:27:563 -
  11. 02:57:563 (149,150) - ^
どうでもいいんですけど、Labyr って名前の由来が Labyrinth だったので何かの縁かなと思いmodしてみました。
Kantan~Muzuはプレイはしましたがmodに対して苦痛を感じてきたので1年後にrankしてなかったら見ます、ごめんなさい。
あまり突っ込んだ事は言えてないですが、それぐらい完成度は高いほうだと思います。頑張ってください。
komasy
621 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
komasy

Labyr wrote:

SPOILER
オマタセしました。
[Labyrinth Oni]
  1. 00:27:563 (131,132) - change d　d d dkkd のほうが直後の1/6の音が際立つと思いました。
    ただ、02:59:626 - からのと似たような配色になって単調気味になるかもしれないので、参考程度に留めていただければ
    keep
  2. 00:33:563 (174,175) - ^
    keep
  3. 00:29:157 (142) - add k　00:35:157 - に合わせて置いてもいいかもしれません
    nice
  4. 00:43:188 (232) - change k, 00:43:376 - add d　あえて置いてないとも思いましたが、直後のノーツ色がkatなので私は問題ないと思います。配色についてはポコポコ音にkatを割り当ててみました。
  5. 00:55:126 (303,304,305,306) - ^
  6. 01:01:188 (343) - change kat　ポコポコ音にkatを
    All keep. 1/6の配色の提案に関しては視覚的、打鍵感的にもやはりマイナーなkdddの1/6が相応しいかと思います。またここだけでなく1/6以外の配置をしている箇所についても同じような音が鳴っていて、そこはk一つでフォローしているのでここもk一つでフォローするべきだと思います。実際音を聞いてみても1/6でkkには聞こえにくいというのもあります。
  7. 01:37:313 - , 01:37:407 - add d
    現状の方が目立つ音が分かりやすくなりプレイ感がいいと思います。また3連が続き単調感を与えてしまうかもしれません
  8. 01:43:126 (216,217,218,219) - same as 00:43:188 -
    keep
  9. 02:13:126 (362) - change d?　feeling
    結構いいですね、使ってみます
  10. 02:51:563 (99,100) - same as 00:27:563 -
    keep
  11. 02:57:563 (149,150) - ^
    keep
どうでもいいんですけど、Labyr って名前の由来が Labyrinth だったので何かの縁かなと思いmodしてみました。
初耳でした…
Kantan~Muzuはプレイはしましたがmodに対して苦痛を感じてきたので1年後にrankしてなかったら見ます、ごめんなさい。
あまり突っ込んだ事は言えてないですが、それぐらい完成度は高いほうだと思います。頑張ってください。
ありがとうございました！
Charlotte
1,905 posts
Joined December 2013
Charlotte

Labyr wrote:

オマタセしました。

[Charlotte's Oni]
  1. 00:27:563 (120,121,122) - change dkd　尺八に合わせた配置でなければ、直前で kkd は使ってるのでddkにしてみてはどうですか。 変化求めてdkdで。
  2. 00:33:563 (155,156,157) - ^ ^
  3. 00:43:501 (207) - remove finish　BIGにするほど目立つ音は鳴って無いと私は思いました 確かに~nextのBig強調も込めて削除しました。
  4. 00:55:501 (269) - ^ ^
  5. 01:01:501 (302) - ^ ^
  6. 01:07:407 (318,319) - swap color? okay
  7. 01:19:594 (389) - move to 01:19:219 -, change d　follow drum. fixed.
  8. 01:37:313 - , 01:37:407 - add d Good suggestion!
  9. 02:00:376 - ここから1/3ノーツを置いてもいいと思いました。Oniなのでd d k d d k d k k d ぐらいの簡単な配色なら問題ないかもしれません よさそうなので入れてみます。
  10. 02:43:594 (784) - move to 02:43:219 - , change d　same as 01:19:594 - same as above
  11. 02:51:563 (832,833,834) - same as 00:27:563 - ^
  12. 02:57:563 (870,871,872) - ^ ^
どうでもいいんですけど、Labyr って名前の由来がLabyrinthだったので何かの縁かなと思いmodしてみました。
Kantan~Muzuはプレイはしましたがmodに対して苦痛を感じてきたので1年後にrankしてなかったら見ます、ごめんなさい。
あまり突っ込んだ事は言えてないですが、それぐらい完成度は高いほうだと思います。頑張ってください。
Thank you Labyrinth 8-)

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komasy
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already updated
xtrem3x
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Yunomi map ... 1 star (-w-)/
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xtrem3x wrote:

Yunomi map ... 1 star (-w-)/
Thanks!!!
Arrival
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Muzukashii :

00:13:876 - to 00:24:376 - this part is overall too dense, consider deleting notes such as 00:18:751 (45) - 00:20:063 (50) - or 00:21:563 (56) - so you keep the same rhythm while making it easier
-02:30:376 - same here

00:24:657 (72,73,74) - Id also suggest removing these 3 notes so you can have a 2/1 break before the next part

00:49:501 (172) - As for this one

01:07:876 (231) - I think something like this will provide a good gameplay based on vocals while also being easier
- If you do so move 01:10:407 (242) - to 01:10:501 -
-01:55:876 (424) - same thing here

01:12:751 (255,256) - Remove these two notes and put this 01:13:126 (257) - as don so you have a 2/1 break and a good emphasis on 01:13:501 (258) -

Inner Oni :

00:36:657 - I think adding a note here and removing 00:37:219 (203) - would suit a bit better
01:12:938 (41,42) - ctrl+g these two notes so you can further emphasize 01:13:501 (44) -
02:54:938 - what about

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Arrival wrote:

SPOILER
Muzukashii :

00:13:876 - to 00:24:376 - this part is overall too dense, consider deleting notes such as 00:18:751 (45) - 00:20:063 (50) - or 00:21:563 (56) - so you keep the same rhythm while making it easier
-02:30:376 - same here
deleted these

00:24:657 (72,73,74) - Id also suggest removing these 3 notes so you can have a 2/1 break before the next part
If I delete that 3notes, the difference with Oni becomes strict, so I changed "_kk_d_d_d_K" to "__kkk_d_d_K".

00:49:501 (172) - As for this one
I keep it because the audible sound is ringing.

01:07:876 (231) - I think something like this will provide a good gameplay based on vocals while also being easier
- If you do so move 01:10:407 (242) - to 01:10:501 -
-01:55:876 (424) - same thing here
Because the rhythm of a unique drum which is only in several places is ringing, I want to follow as much as possible...

01:12:751 (255,256) - Remove these two notes and put this 01:13:126 (257) - as don so you have a 2/1 break and a good emphasis on 01:13:501 (258) -
If I changed it, the difference with Oni becomes strict. I changed "kdk" to "kdd"

Inner Oni :

00:36:657 - I think adding a note here and removing 00:37:219 (203) - would suit a bit better
I also thought it was nice, but since ddk is continuous, I changed the last part to kdk.

01:12:938 (41,42) - ctrl+g these two notes so you can further emphasize 01:13:501 (44) -
fixed

02:54:938 - what about
It is interesting

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Thank you for modding, Arrival :)
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Set looks fine i think we can give it a shot
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Arrival wrote:

Set looks fine i think we can give it a shot
Thank you very much, Arrival!!! :)
Surono
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Futsuu
suggestion about sliders, feel free to not applied if you dont like it ( but seems taiko needs more slider lul )
00:22:876 - ~ 00:23:626 - change it into slider
01:10:876 - ~ 01:11:626 - ^
02:34:876 - ~ 02:35:626 - and 02:35:813 - delete

03:04:501 - 03:10:501 - delete these to avoid a bit close with muzu


Muzukashii
02:53:719 - delete it to keep consistent with emphasizes more on 02:53:251 (70,71,72,74,75,76,77) - 1/2 sounds, 3plet 02:54:563 - enouhg in here.
02:55:688 - delete, seems overdone if you did this.

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komasy
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Surono wrote:

Futsuu
suggestion about sliders, feel free to not applied if you dont like it ( but seems taiko needs more slider lul )
00:22:876 - ~ 00:23:626 - change it into slider
01:10:876 - ~ 01:11:626 - ^
02:34:876 - ~ 02:35:626 - and 02:35:813 - delete
I think that it can express intuitively the vocal and distinctive drum sound, so keep it all.

03:04:501 - 03:10:501 - delete these to avoid a bit close with muzu
deleted some notes


Muzukashii
02:53:719 - delete it to keep consistent with emphasizes more on 02:53:251 (70,71,72,74,75,76,77) - 1/2 sounds, 3plet 02:54:563 - enouhg in here.
I think I should follow up actively as this phrase is only in this one measure.
02:55:688 - delete, seems overdone if you did this.

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thank you for modding, Surono :)
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Surono wrote:

Nominated
Thank you very much!
tasuke912
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Congratz!
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tasuke912 wrote:

Congratz!

yuzu__rinrin wrote:

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