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Liz Triangle - past lover [Osu|Taiko]

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Realazy
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on dimanche 11 juin 2017 at 02:34:59

Artist: Liz Triangle
Title: past lover
Source: 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character.
Tags: Kin Touhou Project Team Shanghai Alice ZUN Sekibanki Dullahan Under the Willows 柳の下のデュラハン lily-an シンソウダイバー azuki c90 Kishinjou DDC TH14 Stage 2 Boss Theme kaztora
BPM: 183,5
Filesize: 8961kb
Play Time: 05:17
Difficulties Available:
  1. Lost Meaning (5,44 stars, 1154 notes)
  2. Lost Oni (4,06 stars, 1647 notes)
Download: Liz Triangle - past lover
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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taiko is ready
std still needs hitsounds

taiko from Kin
strickluke
hello! this is an m4m for Kin (my map: goreshit - the nature of dying)

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Lost Oni
  1. I see that in this map you tend to focus on vocals sometimes and emphasize on them by not placing notes on a few white ticks. However, this can sometimes cause problems with timing or playability to the player. It is still readable, but it could feel a bit odd to the player.
  2. Disable countdown :P
  3. 00:01:026 (1) - Omit first line for this timing point, as it is useless
  4. 00:06:990 (25) - Perhaps you could move this green line to 00:07:341 (26) - or 00:06:815 (24) - to improve readability
  5. 00:28:218 (130,131,132,133,134,135) - Change this pattern to dkk kkkD to fit the music more closely
  6. 01:11:025 (360,361,362,363,364) - Maybe change this pattern to ddkdk
  7. 01:59:096 (616) - I feel that you should slow down the sv after the big dons and kats, as the song does not become significantly more dense or intense
  8. 02:15:762 (710) - Add a d here for clarity in the timing, because otherwise you miss a white tick which is somewhat confusing timing
  9. 02:26:990 (757) - You could make this a k
  10. 02:44:183 (838,839,840,841) - Not sure if the sv changes in this section are very helpful, the ones that speed up and slow down
  11. 02:51:201 (864,865,866,867) - Change this pattern to d d dk
  12. 03:12:341 (993) - Make this a d, as there isn't really a noise that calls for a k
  13. 03:58:043 (1208) - You could also make this a k, but I understand why you wouldn't
  14. 04:40:499 (205) - Make this a K for playability
  15. 04:52:429 (280) - Delete this note, there is no sound here
  16. 04:57:692 (1) - This spinner is kinda weird to play, I would recommend just putting d's here 04:57:867 (304) - and here 04:58:043 (305) -
  17. If you followed the previous suggestion, fix the sv changes as well :D
  18. 05:02:253 (16,17,18) - Change all of these to d to emphasise on pitch

Pretty interesting map, good luck on getting it ranked! :)
Kin

strickluke wrote:

hello! this is an m4m for Kin (my map: goreshit - the nature of dying)

requested via in-game PM

Lost Oni
  1. I see that in this map you tend to focus on vocals sometimes and emphasize on them by not placing notes on a few white ticks. However, this can sometimes cause problems with timing or playability to the player. It is still readable, but it could feel a bit odd to the player.
  2. Disable countdown :P oh, I forgot it, fixed
  3. 00:01:026 (1) - Omit first line for this timing point, as it is useless fixed
  4. 00:06:990 (25) - Perhaps you could move this green line to 00:07:341 (26) - or 00:06:815 (24) - to improve readability not quite sure about this one. Having the finisher at 0.75 feel really wrong to me
  5. 00:28:218 (130,131,132,133,134,135) - Change this pattern to dkk kkkD to fit the music more closely I think the ddk dkkd fit better with the guitare
  6. 01:11:025 (360,361,362,363,364) - Maybe change this pattern to ddkdk I can understand why, tho, I prefer to keep the ddkkk for this particular case
  7. 01:59:096 (616) - I feel that you should slow down the sv after the big dons and kats, as the song does not become significantly more dense or intense the song is more intense on the 2nd part of kiai with the snare every 1/1. The mapping is also more dense. There's no break on the 2nd part
  8. 02:15:762 (710) - Add a d here for clarity in the timing, because otherwise you miss a white tick which is somewhat confusing timing adding a d will kinda break the fact I'm following the guitare.
  9. 02:26:990 (757) - You could make this a k not fixed, but changed this one 02:26:815 (759) - into a k
  10. 02:44:183 (838,839,840,841) - Not sure if the sv changes in this section are very helpful, the ones that speed up and slow down I kinda like those one. I'll ask some people about it
  11. 02:51:201 (864,865,866,867) - Change this pattern to d d dk I prefer the way it is, since I'm vocal oriented
  12. 03:12:341 (993) - Make this a d, as there isn't really a noise that calls for a k the actual kkdkd flow good with the ddkdk here 03:12:780 (999,1000,1001,1002,1003) -
  13. 03:58:043 (1208) - You could also make this a k, but I understand why you wouldn't mostly because of vocal
  14. 04:40:499 (205) - Make this a K for playability I personally think, a D between those k flow better & plays easier
  15. 04:52:429 (280) - Delete this note, there is no sound here it's sure not strong as the other k, but it does really exist
  16. 04:57:692 (1) - This spinner is kinda weird to play, I would recommend just putting d's here 04:57:867 (304) - and here 04:58:043 (305) - I kinda like those kind of gimmick, but I'll ask other people to get more advice about it
  17. If you followed the previous suggestion, fix the sv changes as well :D
  18. 05:02:253 (16,17,18) - Change all of these to d to emphasise on pitch fixed!

Pretty interesting map, good luck on getting it ranked! :)
Thanks for mod!

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osu file format v14

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Title:past lover
TitleUnicode:past lover
Artist:Liz Triangle
ArtistUnicode:Liz Triangle
Creator:Realazy
Version:Lost Oni
Source:東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character.
Tags:Kin Touhou Project Team Shanghai Alice ZUN Sekibanki Liz Triangle Dullahan Under the Willows 柳の下のデュラハン lily-an シンソウダイバー azuki c90
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Sharu
Où sont les triangles????????;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Topic Starter
Realazy

[ Sharuresu ] wrote:

Où sont les triangles????????;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Meftly
shit irc mod holy
22:26 Meftly: btw tu devrais mettre une pause
22:26 Meftly: a nvm ça va pas fit le drain time
22:27 Realazy: sisi
22:27 Realazy: tu la veux où ta pause tho
22:27 Meftly: ah
22:27 Meftly: att
22:28 Meftly: 03:42:955 (1,1) -
22:29 Meftly: 03:42:955 (1) - 03:54:359 (1) - plutot
22:29 Meftly: xD
22:29 Meftly: as u want
22:29 Realazy: mm
22:29 Realazy: j'y pensais
22:29 Realazy: mais le problème c'est de bien faire une transition avec la part d'après
22:30 Meftly: ya pas de soucis nah?
22:30 Realazy: moué
22:32 Meftly: tu gardes ça right? 03:54:008 (1) -
22:33 Meftly: a nvm
22:33 Meftly: du coup c'est comme tu veux D:
22:33 Realazy: oui
22:33 Realazy: bah euh
22:33 Realazy: j'trouve c'est pas vraiment un drame de pas avoir de pause
22:33 Realazy: et surtout
22:33 Realazy: SURTOUT
22:33 Realazy: si je map moins que kin
22:33 Realazy: c'est lui qui devra host
22:33 Meftly: ahh
22:33 Meftly: rip
22:36 Meftly: cc stack 03:02:605 (2,5) -
22:37 Meftly: wait
22:37 Realazy: nazi modder
22:37 Realazy: g g
22:37 Realazy: fix'd
22:37 Meftly: XD
22:37 Meftly: btw elel etait ou deja la double note?
22:37 Realazy: 04:44:183 (1) -
22:37 Realazy: fix tho
22:38 Meftly: ah
22:38 Meftly: c'tait ça :thinking:
22:39 Meftly: j'croyais que tu parlais de ça 02:16:026 (3,1,2) -
22:39 Realazy: euh no
22:39 Realazy: ça pose problème ça?
22:39 Meftly: jsp j'ai tjrs eu du mal à read quand j'ai test
22:39 Meftly: mais dans l'editeur ça parrait tout a fait normal pour emphasize le stop
22:40 Realazy: a
22:57 Meftly: du coup j'ai check un peu plus les stacks XD mais jsuis pas sure non plus donc regarde vite fait et dit moi 01:11:376 (7) - 01:09:271 (4,7) -
22:57 Meftly: sinon j'ai quelques suggestions
22:58 Realazy: fix les 2
22:58 Realazy: vas y
22:58 Meftly: merde j'ai oublié
22:58 Meftly: att jretrouve
22:58 Meftly: XD
22:58 Meftly: en fait c'est pas une suggestion
22:58 Meftly: genre là
22:58 Meftly: 02:32:955 (1,2) -
22:59 Meftly: c'est pas pareil que là 02:34:359 (1,2) -
22:59 Meftly: c'est fait expres?
22:59 Meftly: j'entends un meme son mais peut etre que ya un changement d'intensité et que t'as fait expres
23:00 Realazy: 02:34:534 - ya un son assez fort ici
23:00 Realazy: du coup je préfère pas skip
23:00 Meftly: mais ça devient moins logique après vu que l'intensité est plus grande encore sur le 3e 02:35:762 (1,2) -
23:00 Realazy: cela dit
23:00 Realazy: jpourrais mettre un 1/4
23:00 Realazy: donc j'ai changé ui
23:00 Realazy: en gros sur
23:00 Realazy: 02:34:359 (1,2) -
23:01 Realazy: j'ai rajouté une note 1/4
23:01 Meftly: ah
23:01 Meftly: j'suis pas sure de piger XD
23:02 Meftly: btw je sais pas si c'est fait expres pour ça 02:32:955 (1,2) - et ça 02:35:762 (1,2) -
23:02 Meftly: pas la meme distance
23:03 Meftly: pck l'intensité est plus forte ou ct pas fait expres? :eyes:
23:04 Realazy: oula
23:04 Realazy: non pas fait exprès
23:05 Realazy: :D
23:05 Meftly: ah
23:05 Meftly: du coup j'sais pas
23:05 Meftly: si ya vraiment un changement d'intensité
23:05 Realazy: j'ai mis 0.4 sur le 2e
23:05 Meftly: et que tu peux laisser le spacing
23:05 Meftly: oke
23:05 Meftly: also
23:06 Meftly: j'ai retrouvé ma suggestion
23:06 Meftly: 01:00:148 (6,7,1) -
23:06 Realazy: o
23:06 Meftly: tu veux pas ne pas stacker?
23:06 Meftly: genre att
23:06 Meftly: overlap les 2 cercles
23:06 Meftly: e ngros
23:06 Meftly: https://puu.sh/w21Yp/08a233769e.jpg
23:06 Meftly: comme tu veux
23:06 Realazy: mm
23:06 Meftly: pck tu fait bcp d'overlap donc imo ça fit mieux
23:06 Realazy: allez pour te faire plaisir
23:07 Meftly: aa
23:07 Meftly: t'es sur que ça va pas ruin? mdr
23:08 Realazy: https://real.s-ul.eu/49ivXnZt
23:08 Realazy: :eyes:
23:09 Meftly: t sur c'est la meme distance entre 1 et 7? :eyes:
23:09 Realazy: ye
23:10 Meftly: :okk_hand:
23:10 Meftly: euuuuuuuuuuuuuu
23:10 Meftly: une autre suggestion
23:10 Meftly: mais jsais pas
23:10 Meftly: (chu jamais sure hihi)
23:11 Meftly: 01:01:727 (1,2,3) -
23:11 Realazy: cpas grave
23:11 Meftly: tu veux pas bouger un peu le 3
23:11 Meftly: pour que ça fasse une meme trajectoire que le slider?
23:11 Meftly: pareil pour ça du coup 01:08:745 (1,2,3) -
23:11 Meftly: ah
23:11 Meftly: ok c:
23:11 Realazy: done
23:12 Meftly: ptn j'ai trop peur d'avoir ruin la map avec mes suggestions a la con
23:12 Meftly: gjoifsgfmzonjfeiubsoqzeohfu
23:12 Realazy: plz faut pas dire ça :^)
23:12 Realazy: si ça part trop j'sais refuser
23:13 Meftly: dakour
23:14 Realazy: du coup si tu veux poster le log quand on aura fini
23:14 Realazy: vas y :eyes:
23:14 Meftly: opir yaura des mods et si ils voient un truc pas cool sur mes sugg tu me diras et j'irai kms :ok_hand:
23:14 Meftly: a
23:14 Realazy: e
23:14 Realazy: nn
23:14 Meftly: t sur ça vaut un kudos ce truc
23:14 Realazy: ui
23:14 Meftly: a
23:14 Meftly: dakour

gl for rank!!!!!! skype x cancan mapper holy shit i'm a big fan
Voli
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  1. 00:06:113 (2,3) - I suggest you tone down the spacing here pretty drastically, i confused it for 1/2 since your 1/2 spacing is the same and it's a slow part aswell, 1/4 has enough emphasis without the big spacing - you do this later aswell but since this is the intro i wouldn't space them this big here yet

  2. 00:14:008 (1) - the spacing to this one feels a bit underwhelming compared to 00:12:429 (8,1) - , perhaps make the slider blanket 00:13:482 (3) - ?

  3. 00:19:798 (2) - I don't see why you wouldn't do a note/slider here seeing how you followed the vocals, rn the sliderend is on the strongest vocal which is kinda weird

  4. 00:27:166 (2,3,4) - hmm could you find a way to make these symmertical so they have an identical idea to 00:24:359 (3,4,5) - ? https://voli.s-ul.eu/bYEzqPAn.png

  5. 01:20:850 (5) - maybe 2 notes would fit better here because of the odd whitetick clap here

  6. 01:44:534 (4,1) - you can make it a bit cleaner/nicer by adjusting the visual distance a bit and centering the smaller slider, you might need to play around a bit tho cuz space constraint of the editor lol https://voli.s-ul.eu/Q77EKECV.png

  7. 02:08:043 (3) - if i'm not mistaken this is literally the only time you used this kind of kickslider up until now so it feels a bit out of place, maybe just make it a note?

  8. 02:12:780 - i'd just map this redtick note tbh o.o if anything its stronger than all the previous ones

  9. 02:15:412 (2,3,1,2) - ok this is really weird haha cuz you have to do a huge ass 1/4 jump first and then suddenly hold the momentum for a 1/2 one idk, imo this rhythm would be way better to play https://voli.s-ul.eu/FSTC7fUq.png

  10. 02:39:622 (2) - y not just make it the same length as 02:38:219 (4) - ?

  11. 03:18:920 (6) - same as what i said before, note>slider would prob fit better because the strongest vocal is on the sliderend

  12. 04:02:429 (1,2,3,4) - maybe a cool idea to space this part of the stream a bit more because the drums get more intense here
That was a cool map! GL :D
Topic Starter
Realazy

Voli wrote:

  1. 00:27:166 (2,3,4) - hmm could you find a way to make these symmertical so they have an identical idea to 00:24:359 (3,4,5) - ? https://voli.s-ul.eu/bYEzqPAn.png ehh i kinda like it that way, it's fine enough i guess
  2. 01:44:534 (4,1) - you can make it a bit cleaner/nicer by adjusting the visual distance a bit and centering the smaller slider, you might need to play around a bit tho cuz space constraint of the editor lol https://voli.s-ul.eu/Q77EKECV.png same here plus it would kinda fuck with my DS settings
  3. 02:39:622 (2) - y not just make it the same length as 02:38:219 (4) - ? i believe they are?
That was a cool map! GL :D
everything else was fixed in some way, thank you!
Stefan
[Taco]
SV is messed up, you gotta fix this over the .osu file.

00:06:815 - What about a green line with 0.87x? Looks sorta ugly to me that 00:06:815 (24,25) - are so seperated from each other imo.

00:18:569 - Aside of the vocals, I find a note would be really good to be constant with the song and to keep the flow. For now the empty 2/1 feels pretty weird to me.

00:28:920 - 00:29:271 - here again you could use some more green lines to make the SV increase smoother.

00:32:604 (157,158,159,160,161) - I've seen this as kdddk pattern. 00:30:850 (145,146,147,148,149) - for example is good as kkddk due the longer sound effect on 00:30:850 - and 00:30:938 - while 00:32:604 (157,158,159,160,161) - feels rather to simply follow the drums.

00:33:833 (167) - relating to 00:30:850 (145,146,147,148,149) - above, this may be kkd due the similarity of these two parts.

00:36:289 (177,180) - both notes should be d; 00:36:289 (177) - because 00:36:113 (176) - is definitely present as kat with the drum sounds and 00:36:815 (180) - to emphasize the drum hit 00:36:990 (181) - is following, as well to bring the piano more in front.

01:22:955 - 01:23:482 - And today on "How nitpicking can someone be?: Stefan suggesting stuff about SVs!" - the 0.03x jumps should be constant imo, higher wouldn't be good so use 0.97x, 0.94x, 0.91x and 0.88x.

01:34:008 - instead of the full 1.00x, what about 0.90x? So 01:42:429 - is in comparison stronger over this way.

01:43:306 (513,514) - Wouldn't switching them make more sense? Because (514) gives both, vocals and the drum hit to follow.

02:20:324 (733,734,735,736,737) - kd kd: 02:20:499 - should be don to emphasize the kat sound better on 02:20:324 - . and 02:20:850 (735,736,737) - should be changed to kd since the first two gives a good oppoturnity to use a break for the flow. the kd sounding sounds more reasonable to me to map the guitar riff with a kat sound but I will leave this to you if you agree or not. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

02:55:412 - related to my previous point for 01:34:008 - you could have a slightly lower SV than for 03:01:026 - .

03:59:096 (1216) - Wouldn't you also use a finisher here, like you did for 03:59:973 (1220) - too?
04:04:359 (1247) - ^ similar to 04:07:166 (1265) - .

04:08:394 (1) - Just my 2ct but I don't find the spinner adds a lot in that part. x: I'd just keep 04:08:394 - blank but up to you. It's nothing bad or necessary to remove.


Taiko difficulty is pleasing to me, tbh. Maybe you could call me back again if you guys make progress with your difficulties, good luck meanwhile!
Kin

Stefan wrote:

[Taco]
SV is messed up, you gotta fix this over the .osu file.
ye, fixed >_>
00:06:815 - What about a green line with 0.87x? Looks sorta ugly to me that 00:06:815 (24,25) - are so seperated from each other imo.
fixed
00:18:569 - Aside of the vocals, I find a note would be really good to be constant with the song and to keep the flow. For now the empty 2/1 feels pretty weird to me.
ye you're right, added a note here, + changed this one 00:18:394 (86) - into kat
00:28:920 - 00:29:271 - here again you could use some more green lines to make the SV increase smoother.
should be alright now
00:32:604 (157,158,159,160,161) - I've seen this as kdddk pattern. 00:30:850 (145,146,147,148,149) - for example is good as kkddk due the longer sound effect on 00:30:850 - and 00:30:938 - while 00:32:604 (157,158,159,160,161) - feels rather to simply follow the drums.
ye, kdddk seems to flow better
00:33:833 (167) - relating to 00:30:850 (145,146,147,148,149) - above, this may be kkd due the similarity of these two parts.
I still think kkk d K flow better in this case
00:36:289 (177,180) - both notes should be d; 00:36:289 (177) - because 00:36:113 (176) - is definitely present as kat with the drum sounds and 00:36:815 (180) - to emphasize the drum hit 00:36:990 (181) - is following, as well to bring the piano more in front.
the 1st double kat is mainly for the bass. The don is here to make contrast between the bass & piano
01:22:955 - 01:23:482 - And today on "How nitpicking can someone be?: Stefan suggesting stuff about SVs!" - the 0.03x jumps should be constant imo, higher wouldn't be good so use 0.97x, 0.94x, 0.91x and 0.88x.
fixed
01:34:008 - instead of the full 1.00x, what about 0.90x? So 01:42:429 - is in comparison stronger over this way.
I prefer to keep it as x1 for readability
01:43:306 (513,514) - Wouldn't switching them make more sense? Because (514) gives both, vocals and the drum hit to follow.
I think the current way makes more sense. Since this note 01:43:482 (515) - is between a lot of kat, it has more impact as don
02:20:324 (733,734,735,736,737) - kd kd: 02:20:499 - should be don to emphasize the kat sound better on 02:20:324 - . and 02:20:850 (735,736,737) - should be changed to kd since the first two gives a good oppoturnity to use a break for the flow. the kd sounding sounds more reasonable to me to map the guitar riff with a kat sound but I will leave this to you if you agree or not. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
changed, but in another way
02:55:412 - related to my previous point for 01:34:008 - you could have a slightly lower SV than for 03:01:026 - .

03:59:096 (1216) - Wouldn't you also use a finisher here, like you did for 03:59:973 (1220) - too?
04:04:359 (1247) - ^ similar to 04:07:166 (1265) - .
ye, both fixed
04:08:394 (1) - Just my 2ct but I don't find the spinner adds a lot in that part. x: I'd just keep 04:08:394 - blank but up to you. It's nothing bad or necessary to remove.
seems like this spinner is quite questionnable. I'll ask some other pple about it, will be deleted if they ask me to


Taiko difficulty is pleasing to me, tbh. Maybe you could call me back again if you guys make progress with your difficulties, good luck meanwhile!
thank you derpovic!

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Greenshell
Heya Kin, M4M from your queue~

bad mod don't open
d / don = Don Note
D / Don = Don Finish
k / kat = Katsu Note
K / Kat = Katsu Finish

General:

AiMod doesn't like SV in Kiais as it seems :v (everything's fine there)

Open the .osu of Lost Oni and change the BG coordinates from
0,0,"sekibanki.jpg",0,0
to this, so Sekibanki's face is shown when playing. (or is it her actual face? idk this girl's weird..)
0,0,"sekibanki.jpg",0,60

Tags:
Change Project to 東方Project, this will make things easier when searching up Touhou songs.
Remove Liz Triangle, as it already appears in the artist's name.
Add Kishinjou, this is the romanised version of 輝針城 (the game itself).
Add DDC (acronym, common to use), TH14 (quite common as well) and Stage 2 Boss Theme (the stage where the tracks plays).
Add kaztora, since they did the arrangement on this song.


[Lost Oni]

00:07:341 (26) - change this to k? Vocal has the same pitch as on 00:07:692 (28) -.

00:09:798 (38) - this is a pretty strong snare sound, consider changing this to K, it also gives a nice contrast between the other cymbals which are mapped as D.

00:48:569 (235) - The guitar pitch goes up on this note, k sounds nice. If you consider changing this, you can additionally change 00:48:920 (238) - to d, this is both supported by drums and guitar + it flows better.

01:00:587 (298,299) - I think CTRL+G is pretty neat here, follows drums and guitar better.

01:01:201 (303) - k for the rising synth pitch? Or do you want to give more impact on vocals / snare with the following kats?

01:08:569 (346,347,348) - If you listen closely, you can hear the guitar having a slightly higher pitch on 01:08:657 (347) -, so I think dkd sounds nice here.

01:11:376 (365) - d? You've mapped some 1/4 ahead of the finishers as kkd before, so it'd be natural to do ddkkd here as well.

01:25:411 (446) - kat is totally fine here and fits the pitch, but to give the next note higher impact (vocals are fairly loud and higher-pitched than this note), consider changing this to don?

01:33:131 - I can hear vocals here, adding a note would be nice to emphasize them and to avoid this weird 3/2 gap.

01:49:271 (551,552,553) - dkd feels a bit better to play and goes along with vocals and background piano(?) well imo. You did something similar regarding that on 01:54:183 (586,587,588,589,590) - this 5-plet as well.

02:36:025 (799) - Don't know why this is kat, don suits the guitar better and would be consistent with the rest of the 3/4 notes in this stanza.

03:01:552 (927) - kat for better emphasis on guitar and vocal?

03:23:218 (1080,1081) - CTRL+G these notes, follows the vocals better and plays better, taking the finish to consideration.

03:24:622 (1090) - I'd change this to d, sounds better with the vocals (pitch is pretty low on this note already comparing with the first note of this 5-plet).

03:58:394 (1214) - kat? Vocal pitch is the same as with the next note, plus this 1/2 9-plet will be mirroring itself (which is kinda nice).

04:08:394 - add a green line here with around 40-50% volume? Sounds a bit better having this break rather quiet before the next notes appear.

Up to you like with anything else in this mod of course, but I feel that the 3rd Kiai should start either here 04:15:938 - or here 04:16:113 -. This is because the part before is kinda part of the chorus, but the actual one starts around mentioned timestamp. At least this is how I see it, you might prefer the current one.

04:20:674 (67) - Since you mapped 04:19:797 (60) - this note as kat to match the fast vocals, it'd make sense to change this note to
kat as well, unless you want to avoid repetition.
Alright, that's all from my side. I hope this mod was helpful to you in any way. If it wasn't feel free to skip my map.
Good luck!
Kin

Greenshell wrote:

Heya Kin, M4M from your queue~

bad mod don't open
d / don = Don Note
D / Don = Don Finish
k / kat = Katsu Note
K / Kat = Katsu Finish

General:

AiMod doesn't like SV in Kiais as it seems :v (everything's fine there)

Open the .osu of Lost Oni and change the BG coordinates from
0,0,"sekibanki.jpg",0,0
to this, so Sekibanki's face is shown when playing. (or is it her actual face? idk this girl's weird..)
0,0,"sekibanki.jpg",0,60
fixed
Tags:
Change Project to 東方Project, this will make things easier when searching up Touhou songs. RC prefer to use the full Touhou name
Remove Liz Triangle, as it already appears in the artist's name.
Add Kishinjou, this is the romanised version of 輝針城 (the game itself).
Add DDC (acronym, common to use), TH14 (quite common as well) and Stage 2 Boss Theme (the stage where the tracks plays).
Add kaztora, since they did the arrangement on this song. I'll ask real to do so


[Lost Oni]

00:07:341 (26) - change this to k? Vocal has the same pitch as on 00:07:692 (28) -.
changing this one 00:07:341 (26) - into k will reduce the effect of this k 00:06:815 (24) -
00:09:798 (38) - this is a pretty strong snare sound, consider changing this to K, it also gives a nice contrast between the other cymbals which are mapped as D.
I get your point ; but I prefer to keep it as D ; since I think it flow better with the k k d here 00:10:148 (39,40,41) -
00:48:569 (235) - The guitar pitch goes up on this note, k sounds nice. If you consider changing this, you can additionally change 00:48:920 (238) - to d, this is both supported by drums and guitar + it flows better.
only changing this one into k 00:48:569 (235) - ; I prefer to keep the kkk before the D
01:00:587 (298,299) - I think CTRL+G is pretty neat here, follows drums and guitar better.
I feel like it doesn't flow very well with 01:00:850 (300) -
01:01:201 (303) - k for the rising synth pitch? Or do you want to give more impact on vocals / snare with the following kats?
ye, you guessed what I want (about the vocal)
01:08:569 (346,347,348) - If you listen closely, you can hear the guitar having a slightly higher pitch on 01:08:657 (347) -, so I think dkd sounds nice here.
It's actually slighly lower pitch.
01:11:376 (365) - d? You've mapped some 1/4 ahead of the finishers as kkd before, so it'd be natural to do ddkkd here as well.
there's actually almost every time a k 1/2 before D
01:25:411 (446) - kat is totally fine here and fits the pitch, but to give the next note higher impact (vocals are fairly loud and higher-pitched than this note), consider changing this to don?
ye fixed, it's pretty similar to this note : 01:25:236 (445) -
01:33:131 - I can hear vocals here, adding a note would be nice to emphasize them and to avoid this weird 3/2 gap.
that's actually a background voice. And I'm mapping the main one.
01:49:271 (551,552,553) - dkd feels a bit better to play and goes along with vocals and background piano(?) well imo. You did something similar regarding that on 01:54:183 (586,587,588,589,590) - this 5-plet as well.
my 1st part of kiai is actually, mapped on vocal. The ddd is mainly because here 01:49:271 - it's mainly because the "wa" is just a simple "voice note" ; while the kkdkd here 01:54:183 (586,587,588,589,590) - is mapped this way, because the voice slighly change pitch in her "myo o"
02:36:025 (799) - Don't know why this is kat, don suits the guitar better and would be consistent with the rest of the 3/4 notes in this stanza.
ye, fixed to be more consistent
03:01:552 (927) - kat for better emphasis on guitar and vocal?
ye, fixed
03:23:218 (1080,1081) - CTRL+G these notes, follows the vocals better and plays better, taking the finish to consideration.
ye fixed
03:24:622 (1090) - I'd change this to d, sounds better with the vocals (pitch is pretty low on this note already comparing with the first note of this 5-plet).
I prefer to have the dons starting here 03:24:710 (1091) - on the 5 notes pattern. Because the change of pitch from the vocal (and mainly, the next "vocal note") is here 03:24:710 (1091) -
03:58:394 (1214) - kat? Vocal pitch is the same as with the next note, plus this 1/2 9-plet will be mirroring itself (which is kinda nice).
ye, fixed
04:08:394 - add a green line here with around 40-50% volume? Sounds a bit better having this break rather quiet before the next notes appear.
40%
Up to you like with anything else in this mod of course, but I feel that the 3rd Kiai should start either here 04:15:938 - or here 04:16:113 -. This is because the part before is kinda part of the chorus, but the actual one starts around mentioned timestamp. At least this is how I see it, you might prefer the current one.
ye, I still prefer the current one, with the intense part starting on kiai
04:20:674 (67) - Since you mapped 04:19:797 (60) - this note as kat to match the fast vocals, it'd make sense to change this note to
kat as well, unless you want to avoid repetition.
ye, I get your point, but I feel like losing emphasis on 04:20:850 (69) -
Alright, that's all from my side. I hope this mod was helpful to you in any way. If it wasn't feel free to skip my map.
Good luck!
Thanks for mod!

Update
osu file format v14

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PreviewTime: 107605
Countdown: 0
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[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:past lover
TitleUnicode:past lover
Artist:Liz Triangle
ArtistUnicode:Liz Triangle
Creator:Realazy
Version:Lost Oni
Source:東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character.
Tags:Kin Touhou Project Team Shanghai Alice ZUN Sekibanki Dullahan Under the Willows 柳の下のデュラハン lily-an シンソウダイバー azuki c90
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Ovoui
hey

[Oni]

  1. 00:06:465 (23) - Je pense qu'un Don ici irait mieu pour marquer pour mieu emphase la voix, le son est plus grave que 00:05:938 (21,22) - .
  2. 00:06:465 (23) - Tu pourrais peut être ajouter une note ici, le son est plutôt fort. Après tu perds un peu en emphase avec la voix, a toi de voir ce que tu préfères!
  3. 00:12:429 (52) - Perso, je changerai ce Kat en Don car la voix chante un "ta", tout comme ici 00:12:604 (53) -.
  4. 00:18:394 (86) - Je pense qu'un Don ici irait mieu car la voix fait "Su-Su", il serait donc logique d'avoir la même couleur que 00:18:218 (85) -.
  5. 00:18:569 (87,88,89) - Si tu as accepté ma suggestion précédentes, je te conseilles vivement de ctrl g ce pattern.
  6. 00:19:798 - Tu pourrais peut-être rajouter un Kat ici.
  7. 00:24:885 (118) - Je trouve que ce Don est de trop. Puisque tu as l'air de te focaliser sur la guitare pour cette partie, je te conseille de l'enlever.
  8. 00:27:692 (129) - De même ici.
  9. 00:36:464 (177) - transforme ce Don en Kat pour suivre la guitare mappé par 00:36:113 (175,176) - .
  10. 00:36:640 (178,179,180,181) - Si tu la fais, ctrl g ce pattern!
  11. 00:38:131 (188) - Tu pourrais changer ce Kat en Don pour avoir une plus grosse emphase sur 00:38:394 (189) -. De plus tu seras cohérent avec
  12. 00:39:271 (193,194,195) - car tu as un changement de couleur ici. (mb je viens de voir que dans cette partie tu changeais un peu tout le temps ce passage, je laisse la suggestion au cas où!)
  13. 01:22:780 (434,435,436) - Il me semble judicieux de mettre ces trois notes de la même couleur pour map le watashi, même s'il est vrai que le shi est un peu plus accentué.
  14. 01:23:306 (437,438) - Si tu le fais, ctrl g ça!
  15. 01:31:903 - Rajouter un Don ici sonne plutôt bien!
  16. 01:33:920 - Tu ignores un son assez puissant ici.
  17. 01:34:184 - Pareil ici! Si tu à rejouter une note à 01:33:920 je te conseille d'en rajouter une de la même couleur à 01:34:184
  18. 01:35:587 - Ce son aussi mérite d'être map a mon avis!
  19. 01:46:289 (532) - Tu peux changer ce Kat en Don pour avoir une meilleur emphase sur 01:46:640 (533,555,536) -
  20. 02:20:324 (732) - Je supprimerais ce Don et rajouterais un objet ici 02:20:324 (732) - pour mieux se focus sur le guitare, comme tu le fais dans toute cette partie.
  21. 02:25:412 - 02:25:762 - 02:26:113 - tu peux rajouter des objets ici pour map les vocal, surtout qu'ici 02:25:762 - la voix est plutôt forte.
  22. 02:31:201 (778,779) - Je ne comprend pas ton choix ici, le piano que tu as map a un volume très bes comparé à la voix, je te conseilles de map quelque chose comme ça.
  23. 02:44:359 - Tu peux rajouter une note ici je pense, comme tu map les vocal 02:44:534 (843,844,845) - c'est bizazrre d'avoir un gap juste là.
  24. 02:45:762 - Tu pourrais auss ajouter une note ici, j'ai entendu dire que les doublets c'était cool en taiko! Si le fais, n'oublie de rajouter une note sur tes pattern suivant pour la consistency.
  25. 03:38:920 (1144) - Devrait être le même de la meme couleur que 03:37:517 (1140) - car le son map est quasiment identique!
  26. 03:38:833 - Tu rajouter un objet ici, ca rend le rythme plus sympa a jouer et moins ennuyant qu'uns 1/1 spam.
  27. 04:31:025 (137,138,139) - je pense que que le finish devrait être placé sur le 139 et le 137 devrait être un Kat, 04:31:025 (137,138) - Sont map sur le même son et le fait de changer ça permettrais une meilleure emphase sur 04:31:376 (139) -
  28. 04:57:692 (1) - Je sais pas si le spinner fit très bien ici!
iloveyou4ever
Hi M4M :>

short mod
:arrow: 00:35:236 - and 00:36:464 - remove?
Since music become less intense at 00:35:061 - ,I suggest giving a space for players to rest by deleting 00:35:236 - ,also would be better for player to identify new music part.
Also for 00:36:464 - , no obvious sound here and same reason as above too
:arrow: 01:46:464 - add d here?
for the sake of emphasizing purpose for 01:46:640 -

:arrow: 02:07:517 - remove this?
no either drum or vocal here,and also remove this can emphasize the music better
:arrow: 02:12:429 - k?
Just think it's better XD
:arrow: 02:34:359 - why finisher??
no finisher is put on 02:37:166 -
:?: 03:09:447 - just think this stream is too long
I know you're trying to develop stream among three kiai times,but this stream too long imo ,maybe remove 03:14:885 - this?
:arrow: 03:44:710 - add k?
Small drum sound here,also to be consistent as 03:50:324 -
:arrow: 04:01:026 - kdkkd?
:arrow: 04:05:850 - add a note?
Since the music is getting a little bit more intense here,and putting triplet between finishers can emphasize the finishers more too
:arrow: 04:12:078 - change like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8391478
The pitches for 04:12:078 (10,11,12,13,14,15) - is like high-high-low-high-high-low,and since you're mapping wholly to vocal here,I think you should have put note on 04:12:429 - ,I think kkdkkd suits the best here
:arrow: 04:20:587 - change to k?
since it's the final kiai time,I think it's good to put more challenging pattern too
:arrow: 04:23:745 - ^
:arrow: 04:31:025 - remove finisher?
04:31:376 - This is the most strong beat here,and I cant hear really strong beat on 04:31:025 -
:?: 04:37:955 - change to k?
:arrow: 04:40:674 - change like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8391511
it needs break at 04:40:674 - because it's after finishers and no vocal here imo
:arrow: 05:09:797 - remove this
Well I know there is drum sound here,however I think emphasizing 05:10:674 - this note should be more important than that.Therefore it'd be better if you only put a note at 05:10:499 - (before the last finisher) to emphasize the last finisher better

If you didn't change anything or only change few things,let me know and I will mod other maps :)
Good Luck!
Kin

Ovoui wrote:

hey

[Oni]

  1. 00:06:465 (23) - Je pense qu'un Don ici irait mieu pour marquer pour mieu emphase la voix, le son est plus grave que 00:05:938 (21,22) - . ça fait perdre l'emphasis du 00:06:991 (25) -
  2. 00:06:465 (23) - Tu pourrais peut être ajouter une note ici, le son est plutôt fort. Après tu perds un peu en emphase avec la voix, a toi de voir ce que tu préfères! mec, t'as fail ton c/c
  3. 00:12:429 (52) - Perso, je changerai ce Kat en Don car la voix chante un "ta", tout comme ici 00:12:604 (53) -. sauf que c'est l'un des rares patterns à être sur le drum
  4. 00:18:394 (86) - Je pense qu'un Don ici irait mieu car la voix fait "Su-Su", il serait donc logique d'avoir la même couleur que 00:18:218 (85) -. ça peut se comprendre, mais ça flow comme de la chiasse, et 00:18:569 (87) - a besoin d'être différent de sa note précédé, sans être un k, parce que 00:18:745 (88,89) - sont en k pour bien follow le vocal
  5. 00:18:569 (87,88,89) - Si tu as accepté ma suggestion précédentes, je te conseilles vivement de ctrl g ce pattern.
  6. 00:19:798 - Tu pourrais peut-être rajouter un Kat ici. j'ai move
  7. 00:24:885 (118) - Je trouve que ce Don est de trop. Puisque tu as l'air de te focaliser sur la guitare pour cette partie, je te conseille de l'enlever. c'est un k, et re écoute la guitare
  8. 00:27:692 (129) - De même ici. le d içi permet de faire la transition bass/piano
  9. 00:36:464 (177) - transforme ce Don en Kat pour suivre la guitare mappé par 00:36:113 (175,176) - .
  10. 00:36:640 (178,179,180,181) - Si tu la fais, ctrl g ce pattern!
  11. 00:38:131 (188) - Tu pourrais changer ce Kat en Don pour avoir une plus grosse emphase sur 00:38:394 (189) -. De plus tu seras cohérent avec
  12. 00:39:271 (193,194,195) - car tu as un changement de couleur ici. (mb je viens de voir que dans cette partie tu changeais un peu tout le temps ce passage, je laisse la suggestion au cas où!) je c/c pas mes pattenrs moi, c'est ultra boring sinon
  13. 01:22:780 (434,435,436) - Il me semble judicieux de mettre ces trois notes de la même couleur pour map le watashi, même s'il est vrai que le shi est un peu plus accentué. ça flow comme de la chiasse avec le pattern d'avant. et 01:22:780 (436) - se doit d'être différent de 01:22:604 (435) -
  14. 01:23:306 (437,438) - Si tu le fais, ctrl g ça!
  15. 01:31:903 - Rajouter un Don ici sonne plutôt bien! pas avec le vocal
  16. 01:33:920 - Tu ignores un son assez puissant ici. jamais je map un kkD
  17. 01:34:184 - Pareil ici! Si tu à rejouter une note à 01:33:920 je te conseille d'en rajouter une de la même couleur à 01:34:184 celui la est skip volontairement afin d'avoir un 1/1 break après le finisher, et le début de la new part
  18. 01:35:587 - Ce son aussi mérite d'être map a mon avis!
  19. 01:46:289 (532) - Tu peux changer ce Kat en Don pour avoir une meilleur emphase sur 01:46:640 (533,555,536) - c'est ultra moche à jouer avec le pattern d'avant
  20. 02:20:324 (732) - Je supprimerais ce Don et rajouterais un objet ici 02:20:324 (732) - pour mieux se focus sur le guitare, comme tu le fais dans toute cette partie. grosse merde à rater ses c/c
  21. 02:25:412 - 02:25:762 - 02:26:113 - tu peux rajouter des objets ici pour map les vocal, surtout qu'ici 02:25:762 - la voix est plutôt forte. cette part est mappé piano
  22. 02:31:201 (778,779) - Je ne comprend pas ton choix ici, le piano que tu as map a un volume très bes comparé à la voix, je te conseilles de map quelque chose comme ça. parce que toute cette partie est sur le piano
  23. 02:44:359 - Tu peux rajouter une note ici je pense, comme tu map les vocal 02:44:534 (843,844,845) - c'est bizazrre d'avoir un gap juste là. même explication à propos des finishers
  24. 02:45:762 - Tu pourrais auss ajouter une note ici, j'ai entendu dire que les doublets c'était cool en taiko! Si le fais, n'oublie de rajouter une note sur tes pattern suivant pour la consistency. euh non c'est moche, surtout içi
  25. 03:38:920 (1144) - Devrait être le même de la meme couleur que 03:37:517 (1140) - car le son map est quasiment identique! la c'est plutot une histoire de flow, mais il sont quand même assez différent
  26. 03:38:833 - Tu rajouter un objet ici, ca rend le rythme plus sympa a jouer et moins ennuyant qu'uns 1/1 spam. non, ça casse vraiment tout içi
  27. 04:31:025 (137,138,139) - je pense que que le finish devrait être placé sur le 139 et le 137 devrait être un Kat, 04:31:025 (137,138) - Sont map sur le même son et le fait de changer ça permettrais une meilleure emphase sur 04:31:376 (139) - non car c'est seulement un snare, les 2 D sont la parce qu'il y a des cymbals
  28. 04:57:692 (1) - Je sais pas si le spinner fit très bien ici!
merci pour le mod pd

going to check ilu4e asap >_>
lazygirl
IRC mod, really short and really amazing quality :^)

hi
23:02 lazyboy007: mais la map est bonne j'aurai pas grand chose a dire
23:04 lazyboy007: alors en fait j'ai presque rien a dire niveau playability spacing rhythmes etc
23:04 Realazy: a
23:04 Realazy: nuke mes visuals plz
23:04 lazyboy007: mais l'aesthétique pourrait être un peu plus clean imo
23:04 lazyboy007: un peu
23:04 lazyboy007: pas bcp
23:04 lazyboy007: :P
23:05 Realazy: bah j'veux bien moi
23:05 Realazy: :^)
23:05 lazyboy007: bon déjà j'aime jamais les straight sliders
23:05 lazyboy007: x)
23:05 lazyboy007: 00:41:376 (4,5,1) -
23:05 lazyboy007: meme si tu tilt ca a 5° c'est plus clean
23:05 lazyboy007: et pas parallèle
23:06 Realazy: mmh
23:06 Realazy: en fait
23:06 lazyboy007: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8599935
23:06 Realazy: ça m'arrangerait de pas irc mod
23:06 lazyboy007: dans ce style
23:06 Realazy: histoire que je puisse fix après que gw ait hitsound
23:06 Realazy: tu vois
23:06 lazyboy007: bah j'ai tellement peu a dire en fait
23:06 lazyboy007: xD
23:06 Realazy: ou sinon je save le log
23:06 Realazy: ouais c'est sympa ça
23:06 lazyboy007: ouais je vais le post en forum
23:06 lazyboy007: donc imo remplace tous tes straight par du 5° tilt
23:07 lazyboy007: alors ici
23:07 lazyboy007: 01:00:324 - je vois pas quand tu utilises
23:07 lazyboy007: 01:01:727 (1,2,3) - ce pattern
23:07 lazyboy007: vs celui-ci
23:07 lazyboy007: 01:05:587 (5,6,1) -
23:07 lazyboy007: et pq le premier n'a pas de spacin sur le triplet
23:08 Realazy: alors pour le 1er
23:08 Realazy: y'a pas de son à emphasize sur le 3
23:08 Realazy: alors que le 2
23:08 Realazy: t'entends une cymbale assez forte sur le 1
23:08 Realazy: donc j'emphasize comme ça
23:08 lazyboy007: ok
23:08 lazyboy007: pour la suite aussi?
23:08 lazyboy007: tous les patterns sont structurés comme ca?
23:08 Realazy: parce que c'est plus simple à jouer que d'avoir le jump à faire après le cercle
23:09 Realazy: oui
23:09 lazyboy007: ok cool
23:09 lazyboy007: j'avais pas capté la logique mais ca semble bon
23:09 lazyboy007: ^^
23:09 Realazy: 01:08:394 (6,7,1,2,3) - assez bon exemple je dirais
23:09 lazyboy007: ouais je vois
23:09 lazyboy007: :D
23:09 lazyboy007: tiens sinon pour les straight fais aussi
23:09 lazyboy007: tous inclinés de 5-10-15 degrés
23:10 lazyboy007: ou multiples de 5
23:10 lazyboy007: ca se sent en jouant qu'ils ne le sont pas
23:10 lazyboy007: ^^
23:10 Realazy: mmh c'est trop incliné je pense
23:10 lazyboy007: je trouve ca fait une touche de bo jeu
23:10 Realazy: j'aime bcp plus quand c'est 2-3 degrés
23:10 lazyboy007: ouais ce que je veux dire c'est
23:10 lazyboy007: bosse par multiples
23:10 lazyboy007: répète les mêmes angles
23:10 lazyboy007: ca se sent
23:11 Realazy: ça serait trop répétitif imo
23:11 lazyboy007: non ca donne de la structure
23:11 Realazy: alors du coupje veux bien les incliner un peu pour que ça soit pas complètement droit
23:11 Realazy: mais j'aimerais pas trop garder les mêmes sliders pendant 5min
23:11 lazyboy007: imo ca fait moins organisé sinon
23:11 lazyboy007: c'est pas les mêmes
23:11 lazyboy007: le flow change, la position etc.
23:11 lazyboy007: les maps de gw ont tjr les memes angles
23:12 lazyboy007: tu sent que c'est clean
23:12 lazyboy007: tu sens pas que ca répète
23:12 lazyboy007: 02:21:026 (2) - imo ce slider pourrait avoir une shape plus spéciale mais meh
23:12 lazyboy007: pas important
23:12 lazyboy007: après ca plus qu'une seule chose
23:13 Realazy: mmh ouais je vois
23:13 lazyboy007: 04:01:289 (4,1) - non
23:13 lazyboy007: 04:02:692 (4,1) - non
23:13 lazyboy007: xD
23:13 Realazy: mais le truc c'est surtout que le son de guitare est bien tendu
23:13 Realazy: donc ????
23:13 Realazy: pas trop envie de aire un truc spécial
23:13 Realazy: enfin tu vois ce que je veux dire
23:13 lazyboy007: ouais
23:13 lazyboy007: pas de soucis la dessus
23:13 Realazy: a
23:13 lazyboy007: c'est super mineur
23:13 Realazy: c'est si dur? :<
23:13 lazyboy007: mais les jumpstreams c'est genre
23:13 lazyboy007: diff spike
23:13 lazyboy007: c'est inattendu et pas super justifié
23:14 lazyboy007: c'est pas le point le plus intense de la musique donc un diff spike niveau reading/surprise est pas bon
23:14 Realazy: inattendu je dirais pas tant que ça
23:14 lazyboy007: si tu veux un jump descends le a genre
23:14 Realazy: mais je nerferai
23:14 lazyboy007: fais
23:14 lazyboy007: 1.5x
23:14 lazyboy007: ou 1.8x
23:14 Realazy: enfin je veux dire
23:14 Realazy: ça se voit bien au niveau spacing
23:14 Realazy: que c'est pas du 1/2
23:14 lazyboy007: c'est pas ca le truc
23:15 lazyboy007: c'est surtout que c'est le seul jump 1/4 de la map
23:15 lazyboy007: c'est hors propos
23:15 lazyboy007: rentre pas dans ta structure de mapping
23:15 lazyboy007: et la musique ne le justifie pas assez pour casser cette structure
23:15 lazyboy007: imo du moins ^^
23:16 lazyboy007: si tu mets du 1.5x c'est clean, ca ne sort pas trop de la map et ca joue correctement
23:16 Realazy: mouais
23:16 Realazy: okok
23:16 Realazy: jferai ça après les hitsounds du coup
23:17 lazyboy007: yep
23:17 lazyboy007: j'ai rien d'autre a ajouter
23:17 lazyboy007: a part que dans ta prochaine map fais gaffe aux straight
23:17 lazyboy007: hehe
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