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Jonarwhal
not a check just a chat
19:47 Jonawaga: TAIIII
19:52 Taikocracy: O:
19:52 Jonawaga: xd
19:52 Taikocracy: Stefan used the colors to simplify the rhythm
19:53 Taikocracy: Was the kiai good>
19:53 Taikocracy: ?*
19:54 Jonawaga: whats this called again
19:54 Taikocracy: what
19:54 Jonawaga: xd
19:54 Jonawaga: jk
19:55 Jonawaga: i dont unserstand your reasoning, as i mentioned
19:56 Taikocracy: It's based on pitch
19:56 Taikocracy: The monocolor again is just to simplify it as much as possible
19:57 Jonawaga: i mean
19:57 Jonawaga: you can have mono pitch systems
19:58 Taikocracy: systems?
19:58 Jonawaga: for example, in muzu, a lot of streams are based on what the circle at the END would be
19:58 Jonawaga: idk what it's called
19:59 Jonawaga: or the motion in which the pitches go
19:59 Jonawaga: but those are ususally the same...
20:00 Jonawaga: 01:14:041 (2,3) - like this could be dd for that reasoning... idk if anyone uses this besides me though
20:01 Jonawaga: does that make sense?
20:02 Taikocracy: Kinda
20:02 Jonawaga: ok,
20:02 Taikocracy: So if 2 and 3 are don
20:02 Taikocracy: are 6 and 7 kat
20:02 Taikocracy: ?
20:02 Jonawaga: i'll have to check lol
20:02 Taikocracy: :thinking2:
20:02 Jonawaga: yeah... it works in theory but
20:02 Jonawaga: the application seems a little odd on this map
20:02 Jonawaga: it would result in a lot of dons/kats in a row
20:04 Taikocracy: So what are Jona's recommendations
20:04 Taikocracy: Kiai good or needs changing
20:05 Jonawaga: ok i get it now
20:07 Jonawaga: revert to normal
20:07 Jonawaga: 01:24:755 (5,6,7) - switch to k
20:07 Jonawaga: 01:26:469 (8,9,10) - switch to d
20:07 Jonawaga: 01:29:327 (14) - switch to k (optional)
20:07 Jonawaga: 01:31:612 (18) - switch to k (optional)
20:07 Jonawaga: all for pitches
20:07 Jonawaga: is that good?
20:08 Taikocracy: the optionals i can't apply
20:08 Jonawaga: ye i thought so
20:08 Taikocracy: welll
20:08 Jonawaga: i just tried them
20:08 Taikocracy: it'd make it 2*
20:08 Jonawaga: it would???
20:09 Taikocracy: yeah
20:09 Jonawaga: roh
20:09 Jonawaga: oh
20:09 Taikocracy: it's super fragile
20:09 Jonawaga: xd
20:09 Jonawaga: well the non optionals
20:09 Jonawaga: those are good right?
20:09 Taikocracy: made 1 change
20:09 Jonawaga: ok...
20:09 Taikocracy: 01:21:898 is k
20:10 Taikocracy: made 1.98*
20:10 Jonawaga: invalid format
20:10 Jonawaga: plz
20:10 Taikocracy: wut
20:10 Taikocracy: oh
20:10 Taikocracy: oops
20:11 Taikocracy: is that one change good
20:11 Taikocracy: you like?
20:11 Jonawaga: uh
20:11 Jonawaga: you ignored the changed i made
20:11 Taikocracy: ?
20:11 Jonawaga: 01:24:755 (5,6,7) - switch to k
20:11 Jonawaga: 01:26:469 (8,9,10) - switch to d
20:12 Taikocracy: Ah yes
20:12 Taikocracy: Done
20:12 Taikocracy: Final of
20:12 Taikocracy: 1.99*
20:12 Taikocracy: Jesus
20:12 Jonawaga: wow
20:12 Jonawaga: upload...
20:12 Jonawaga: i'll help you reduce
20:14 Jonawaga: upload soon?
20:14 Taikocracy: Updated
20:14 Taikocracy: :3
20:14 Jonawaga: creepy
20:14 Jonawaga: uploaded osu
20:14 Jonawaga: is the same as my local
20:15 Taikocracy: lol
20:15 Jonawaga: ok let's simplify this
20:15 Taikocracy: it's pretty simple as it is
20:15 Taikocracy: the kiai is just a huge butt buff
20:16 Jonawaga: 00:36:755 - / 00:55:041 - imo this can be reduced a tiny bit more
20:18 Taikocracy: :eyes:
20:19 Jonawaga: can be but
20:19 Jonawaga: call me back if you need it i guess
20:19 Jonawaga: ;w;
20:20 Taikocracy: oki
20:20 Taikocracy: can you post that in the forum plz
20:20 Taikocracy: this*
20:20 Taikocracy: irc
20:20 Jonawaga: oh
20:20 Jonawaga: well i wanna clarify about the SR
20:20 Taikocracy: Oh okay
20:20 Taikocracy: What's up
20:23 Jonawaga: how to make it drop
20:23 Jonawaga: map the white ticks
20:23 Taikocracy: Oh, yes ofc
20:24 Jonawaga: like consider making the first half of the kiai
20:25 Jonawaga: 00:55:041 -
20:25 Jonawaga: nope lol wrong stamp
20:25 Jonawaga: 01:13:326 - / 01:22:469 - use white ticks?
20:26 Jonawaga: the 1/2 sounds are definetly stronger in the second half
20:26 Taikocracy: hold on I'm changing it now
20:26 Taikocracy: That sparked a good idea
20:26 Jonawaga: ok...
20:27 Jonawaga: i hope that doesn't make it too jarring when 1/2 is introduced...
20:28 Taikocracy: Okay
20:28 Taikocracy: I made it down to 1.93*
20:28 Taikocracy: Check it out
20:28 Jonawaga: wow
20:28 Jonawaga: <3 <3 <#
20:29 Jonawaga: xd
20:29 Jonawaga: check with Stefan but i love it
Skylish
As requested for some opinion in Kantan's Kiai section:

  1. 01:13:898 (2,3) - / 01:16:184 (6,7) - / 01:18:469 (11,12) - / 01:20:755 (15,16) - / 01:23:041 (2,3) -
    You must have noticed that they are really off from the melody itself, they should be consistent with 01:25:469 (6,7) - / 01:27:755 (11,12) - .
    It is not really ideal to shift all of these dd/kk to the on-beats forcefully because it is just weird.

  2. Then you will figure the SR jumps up due to these CORRECTLY shifted off-beat dd/kk. You need to consider, now, how to reduce the SR with reasonable moves. I recommend removing 01:17:612 (9) - / 01:26:755 (9) - / for the sake of SR. (now it should be 2.00) It is fine with it although you may wonder about the density issue. I believe the previous off-beat patterns, with suitable gaps though, are already challenges for the Kantan level players.
Topic Starter
Lumenite-
@Jonawaga and @Skylish thank you for y'alls help~
Jonarwhal
Looks good. Bubbled~

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15:56 Jonawaga: TAI
16:00 Taikocracy: o hi
16:00 Taikocracy: was doing a 5 min play sorry lol
16:00 Jonawaga: lol
16:00 Jonawaga: exit and mod with me now?
16:02 Taikocracy: Well I'm practing for a tourney
16:02 Taikocracy: A friend of mine's partner spilled acid on his hand
16:02 Jonawaga: @_@
16:02 Taikocracy: And wanted me to repalce
16:02 Taikocracy: We're in MP practicing
16:02 Jonawaga: i see
16:02 Taikocracy: But it should be over soon
16:02 Jonawaga: ok
16:09 Taikocracy: Oki we good
16:09 Taikocracy: Hello young cute child
16:10 Jonawaga: aw
16:12 *Jonawaga is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1155167 t+pazolite - Intro - the other Side [Kantan]]
16:12 Jonawaga: why not 1.4x
16:13 Taikocracy: Chichinya recommended to slow it down because BPM
16:13 Jonawaga: who
16:13 Taikocracy: I think it's 1.2x on futsuu too
16:13 Jonawaga: it is
16:13 Jonawaga: i disagree on both
16:13 Taikocracy: yee
16:13 Taikocracy: Alright
16:13 Taikocracy: That's not really one I can argue with lol
16:13 Jonawaga: lol
16:14 Jonawaga: ok
16:14 *Jonawaga is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1155167 t+pazolite - Intro - the other Side [Kantan]]
16:14 Jonawaga: 01:20:184 (14) - optional switch to k to match prior pattern 01:15:612 (5) -
16:15 Taikocracy: makes SR 2.03*
16:15 Taikocracy: can't apply
16:15 Jonawaga: wow
16:15 Jonawaga: switch the other to d then?
16:15 Taikocracy: this difficulty is so very volate
16:15 Taikocracy: volatile*
16:15 Jonawaga: ohhhhh
16:15 Jonawaga: the SV
16:15 Taikocracy: that makes it 2* LOL
16:16 Jonawaga: omg
16:16 Jonawaga: nvm then i guess
16:16 Jonawaga: i cri
16:16 Taikocracy: Isn't 2.0* rankable
16:16 Jonawaga: yes
16:17 Taikocracy: Then I don't think it's a bad idea...
16:17 Jonawaga: why dont i can't believe your SR hasn't dropped
16:17 Jonawaga: "why dont i cant"
16:18 Taikocracy: LOL
16:18 Jonawaga: did you apply Skylish's mod or
16:19 Jonawaga: cuz like he makes it drop to 1.95
16:19 Taikocracy: I thought I did
16:19 Taikocracy: Let me relook at it
16:20 Jonawaga: 01:17:612 - remove
16:22 Taikocracy: Gotta say I did indeed apply his mod
16:22 Jonawaga: 01:17:612 - why is there still a note here then
16:22 Jonawaga: 01:26:755 - and here
16:23 Taikocracy: Look at me
16:23 Taikocracy: Skipping over comments
16:23 Jonawaga: o m g
16:23 Taikocracy: I'm at 1.91* now
16:23 Jonawaga: you need to be more careful
16:23 Taikocracy: I'm sorry lol I'm very oblivious at least 60% of the time
16:23 *Jonawaga is being a hypocrite
16:24 Jonawaga: youre fine
16:24 Jonawaga: i sleepwalk through life uwu
16:24 Jonawaga: anyway
16:24 Jonawaga: now that we can play with it
16:24 Jonawaga: 01:16:327 (6,7) - optional kk
16:24 Jonawaga: 01:20:184 (13) - optional k for consistency
16:24 Taikocracy: I'd only make note 7 a k
16:25 Taikocracy: +.05*
16:25 Jonawaga: dude
16:25 Taikocracy: lol
16:25 Taikocracy: SR broken
16:25 Jonawaga: you have to keep them mono XD
16:25 Jonawaga: that's why I said kk
16:25 Jonawaga: don't just assume I'll let you make one of them k
16:26 Taikocracy: I didn't assume anything
16:26 Jonawaga: ahhh
16:26 Taikocracy: I just thought that having note 7 as a k by itself would sound better
16:26 Taikocracy: :sweat_smile:
16:26 Jonawaga: yeah =w=
16:26 Jonawaga: it would
16:26 Jonawaga: but
16:26 Jonawaga: not at this rate
16:26 Taikocracy: btw
16:26 Taikocracy: 01:21:898 because this is a k
16:26 Taikocracy: oops format
16:27 Jonawaga: why do you do links that like that owo
16:27 Taikocracy: 01:17:326 - shouldn't this also be a k
16:27 Taikocracy: because i forget to put the dash lol
16:27 Jonawaga: sure but I'd rather make 01:21:898 (16) - this a d
16:27 Jonawaga: because low pitch
16:27 Jonawaga: either is fine though
16:27 Taikocracy: Ok
16:28 Jonawaga: why do you keep accepting my optional suggestions
16:28 Jonawaga: anyway
16:29 Jonawaga: last thing
16:29 Jonawaga: 01:23:184 (2,3) - kk if you want
16:29 Jonawaga: 01:27:755 (10,11) - same
16:29 Taikocracy: Alrighty
16:29 Jonawaga: i said if you wnat
16:30 Taikocracy: I do want to tho
16:30 Taikocracy: XD
16:30 Jonawaga: im almost upset you agree with me too much
16:30 Jonawaga: =w=
16:30 Taikocracy: I was thinking about changing those myself anyways
16:30 Jonawaga: ah
16:30 Jonawaga: hows the sr
16:30 Taikocracy: 1.92
16:30 Jonawaga: wow
16:30 Taikocracy: I hardly ever disagree
16:30 Taikocracy: With anyone
16:30 Jonawaga: thats
16:30 Jonawaga: honestly kinda ignorant in taiko
16:31 Taikocracy: Not because I'm like idk what the word is for it
16:31 Jonawaga: not that youre ignorant
16:31 Taikocracy: ignorant, sure
16:31 Taikocracy: All the suggestions I get from people make sense
16:31 Taikocracy: So I'm like okay
16:31 Jonawaga: but
16:31 Jonawaga: sometimes
16:31 Jonawaga: in fact heck most of the time
16:31 Jonawaga: people don't understand your intentions for sections and change the wrong stuff
16:32 Jonawaga: Ayyri constantly denied entire mods
16:32 Jonawaga: ENTIRE
16:32 Jonawaga: MODS
16:32 Taikocracy: I know xD
16:33 *Jonawaga is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1155174 t+pazolite - Intro - the other Side [Futsuu]]
16:33 Jonawaga: 00:13:041 (25,26) -
16:33 Taikocracy: I'd say I have a 40% reject rate on mods
16:33 Jonawaga: FOR EXAMPLE
16:33 Taikocracy: And owo
16:33 Jonawaga: im sure you get messages saying to make this dk to match the prior
16:33 Jonawaga: but if you keep playing you start to see what Tai is doing
16:33 Jonawaga: 00:17:612 (35,36) - see? you repeated the pattern
16:34 Jonawaga: so there must be a reson
16:34 Jonawaga: then, I look for the reason
16:34 Jonawaga: then I hear the snarish noise in the bg you're following there
16:34 Jonawaga: and I make a mental note to leave that part alone
16:34 Jonawaga: makes sense?
16:35 Taikocracy: yes sensei jona
16:35 Taikocracy: xd
16:36 Jonawaga: 00:36:755 - / 00:55:041 - like it were me i would have mapped this whole section very differently
16:37 Jonawaga: following the pitch of the melody/synth/whatchamacallit
16:37 Taikocracy: Idek xD
16:37 Jonawaga: do you like this pattern or u want me to show u
16:38 Taikocracy: I like it the way it is, but you can show me what you were talking about
16:39 Jonawaga: ok make another difficulty as a copy of this one
16:40 Taikocracy: oki
16:41 Jonawaga: 00:38:184 (87,88) - ctrl+g
16:41 Jonawaga: 00:39:041 (90) - k
16:41 Jonawaga: 00:39:469 (91,92) - ctrl+g
16:41 Jonawaga: 00:40:041 (93) - k
16:41 Jonawaga: 00:40:469 (94,95) - ctrl+g
16:42 Jonawaga: 700:42:755 (101,102) - ctrl+g
16:42 Jonawaga: 00:43:612 (104) - k
16:42 Jonawaga: 00:44:041 (105,106) - ctrl+g
16:42 Jonawaga: 00:45:041 (108,109) - ctrl+g
16:42 Jonawaga: 00:44:612 (107) - k
16:43 Jonawaga: 00:46:898 (114,115) - k k
16:43 Jonawaga: 00:48:612 (119) - k
16:43 Jonawaga: 00:48:898 (120,121) - ctrl+g
16:43 Jonawaga: 00:49:612 (122,123) - ctrl+g
16:43 Jonawaga: 00:51:469 (128,129) - k k
16:43 Jonawaga: 00:53:184 (133,134) - ctrl+g
16:44 Jonawaga: 00:53:755 (135) - k
16:44 Jonawaga: and you're done \o/
16:44 Taikocracy: Eh
16:45 Taikocracy: this ignores the very apparent snare hits
16:45 Jonawaga: basically \o/
16:45 Taikocracy: :/
16:46 Jonawaga: so then you'd just change the missing snares to kats
16:46 Jonawaga: i believe
16:46 Jonawaga: 00:38:469 (88) -
16:46 Taikocracy: the snares over ride the sounds
16:46 Jonawaga: 00:40:755 (95) -
16:46 Taikocracy: no me gusta
16:46 Jonawaga: 00:43:041 (102) -
16:46 Jonawaga: 00:45:326 (109) -
16:46 Jonawaga: 00:49:898 (123) -
16:47 Jonawaga: 00:52:184 (130,131) - ctrl+g
16:47 Taikocracy: I won't be changing it
16:47 Taikocracy: :sweat_smile:
16:47 Jonawaga: ye this is just a hypothetical
16:47 Jonawaga: heck im cutting this out of my upload
16:47 Jonawaga: did you fix the snares?
16:47 Taikocracy: LOL
16:48 Taikocracy: I have it the same way as it was the first time you saw it
16:48 Taikocracy: xd
16:48 Jonawaga: ???
16:48 *Taikocracy shakes head
16:48 Taikocracy: Never mind lol
16:49 Jonawaga: do you like it or
16:49 Taikocracy: I like the way I did it better
16:49 Taikocracy: Lol
16:49 Taikocracy: That's what I was trying to say
16:49 Jonawaga: ok
16:49 Taikocracy: I'm just gonna leave that part alone
16:50 Jonawaga: can u put a .osu for that version in the beatmaps
16:50 Jonawaga: description?
16:50 Jonawaga: i quite like it >//////<
16:50 *Taikocracy sighs because he deleted the difficulty with it
16:51 Jonawaga: lmao
16:51 Jonawaga: can'u u just restore it from the recycling bin?
16:52 Taikocracy: yeah I guess
16:52 Jonawaga: do that por favor
16:52 Taikocracy: ok
16:53 Jonawaga: yay
16:53 Jonawaga: so then just upload the .osu and put it in your map's description next upload
16:53 Taikocracy: :3
16:53 Jonawaga: wanna mod oni now?
16:54 Taikocracy: sure :D
16:54 *Jonawaga is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1154653 t+pazolite - Intro - the other Side [Oni]]
16:54 Jonawaga: 00:30:612 (121,122,123,124,125,126,127) - just an observation
16:54 Jonawaga: this combo is longer than the others \o/
16:55 Taikocracy: 00:32:898- matches here
16:55 Jonawaga: i noticed but i don't get why
16:55 Taikocracy: It's part of a "growing" effect
16:55 Jonawaga: huh
16:55 Jonawaga: ok
16:55 Jonawaga: 01:13:326 (1) -
16:55 Jonawaga: no finisher for the kiai start?
16:56 Jonawaga: i guess it makes sense cuz
16:56 Jonawaga: difficulty
16:56 Jonawaga: just chacking to make sure that's intentional and all
16:56 Taikocracy: I think I marked it off for a certain reason
16:56 Taikocracy: I don't remember why
16:56 Taikocracy: Oh now I do
16:56 Taikocracy: That was an accident lol
16:57 Jonawaga: oh
16:59 Jonawaga: ok your kiai seems like cool improvision stuff
17:00 Taikocracy: It was :D
17:01 Jonawaga: ok the rest looks good
17:01 Jonawaga: im gonna upload
17:01 Jonawaga: you're gonna upload
17:01 Jonawaga: i'll get a second opinion
17:03 Jonawaga: tai tai tai tai tai tai
17:04 Jonawaga: TAITATITAITAITAITIATIAITIATIAITIATITAIIATAITIQ
17:07 Taikocracy: sorry LOL
17:07 Jonawaga: xd
17:08 Taikocracy: everyone needs a second opinion oml
17:08 Taikocracy: xD
17:08 Jonawaga: upload sooner or later owo
17:08 Taikocracy: Hold on
17:09 Taikocracy: I'm getting the ,osu
17:09 Taikocracy: .osu*
17:11 Taikocracy: \okay it's updated lol
17:12 Jonawaga: yay]
17:16 Jonawaga: except
17:17 Jonawaga: you didnt do what i want for v2 lol
17:17 Taikocracy: where
17:17 Jonawaga: 00:38:469 (88) - k, 00:40:755 (95) - k, 00:43:041 (102) - k, 00:45:326 (109) - k
17:18 Jonawaga: 00:49:898 (123) - k
17:20 Jonawaga: got that?
17:20 Taikocracy: ryes
17:20 Jonawaga: thanks
17:20 Jonawaga: did u wanna adjust the bg?
17:21 Taikocracy: Not really xD
17:21 Jonawaga: ahkay
17:21 Taikocracy: ;3
17:22 Taikocracy: fixed the link
17:22 Jonawaga: tysm XD
17:22 Taikocracy: np lol
17:22 Taikocracy: LOL did you ask Nepuri
17:22 Taikocracy: XD
17:22 Jonawaga: my friend's gonna msg u now
17:22 Jonawaga: yeshh
17:22 Taikocracy: XDDDD
17:23 Jonawaga: whats his suggestion
17:23 Taikocracy: Hold on
17:23 Taikocracy: He messed it up the first time
17:23 Jonawaga: lol
17:24 Taikocracy: "ok now properly lol"
17:24 Jonawaga: what
17:24 Jonawaga: xd
17:27 Taikocracy: He suggested removing some 1/2 from 00:09:326 - 00:18:469
17:28 Jonawaga: ah
17:28 Taikocracy: That was his only thing
17:29 Jonawaga: https://puu.sh/vFK1N/2974bc0a9c.jpg
17:29 Jonawaga: ya like?
17:29 Taikocracy: yeeee
17:29 Jonawaga: ok
17:30 Jonawaga: you know how to apply that, right?
17:31 Jonawaga: tai?
17:31 Taikocracy: No I don't XD
17:31 Jonawaga: oh lol
17:32 Jonawaga: open the .osu file
17:32 Taikocracy: I've never worked with the visual part of the editor except to apply a BG
17:32 Jonawaga: look for the line that says "0,0,"the other side.jpg",0,75"
17:32 Jonawaga: and change the last "0" to "75"
17:33 Taikocracy: Where
17:33 Taikocracy: :eyes:
17:33 Jonawaga: "events" section
17:33 Jonawaga: a few lines down
17:34 Taikocracy: In design?
17:34 Jonawaga: "events"
17:34 Jonawaga: in the .osu file
17:34 Jonawaga: file>open .osu in notepad
17:34 Taikocracy: Got it ye
17:35 Taikocracy: https://puu.sh/vFKFO/9a42a28a3d.png
17:35 Taikocracy: so it looks like that
17:35 Jonawaga: yeye
17:35 Jonawaga: that'll drop the bg
17:36 Taikocracy: Do I have to do it for all of the idffs
17:36 Taikocracy: What about on the muzu
17:36 Jonawaga: yes
17:36 Jonawaga: do that all diffs
17:36 Jonawaga: not muzu
17:37 Taikocracy: Lol okay
17:37 Taikocracy: oki we good
17:38 Taikocracy: updating
17:41 Taikocracy: omg i need to stop closing my osu
17:41 Jonawaga: xd
17:42 Taikocracy: the 2nd time
17:42 Taikocracy: :::????
17:43 Jonawaga: lol you're fine
17:45 Taikocracy: Dude there's a version of Chinese Restaurant that was like my sh*t back in the day lmao
17:45 Jonawaga: are u stalking me
17:46 Taikocracy: no hablo ingles
17:46 Taikocracy: =w=
17:48 Jonawaga: estas stalkiendo me?
17:49 Taikocracy: dang
17:49 Jonawaga: lol
17:49 Taikocracy: I can't Korean me way out of this
17:49 Taikocracy: ;-;
17:49 Taikocracy: yo no hablo espanol
17:49 Taikocracy: :3
17:50 Jonawaga: my background didn't drop
17:50 Taikocracy: the one on v2
17:50 Taikocracy: ?
17:50 Jonawaga: no
17:50 Jonawaga: like nothing dropped
17:50 Taikocracy: wut
17:51 Taikocracy: https://puu.sh/vFLKX/90fe85ecb2.png
17:51 Jonawaga: did u upload with it?
17:51 Taikocracy: is it supposed to look like this
17:52 Jonawaga: yes
17:52 Taikocracy: then it worked for me :thinking:
17:52 Jonawaga: i redownloaded and it looks like this
17:52 Jonawaga: https://puu.sh/vFLOl/8aafe66187.jpg
17:52 Jonawaga: faceless gal
17:52 Taikocracy: this is disappointing
17:52 Taikocracy: let me see what happens if i redl
17:53 Taikocracy: Nah your right lol
17:53 Taikocracy: HOld on
17:54 Taikocracy: Does the kantan look right
17:55 Jonawaga: yes
17:55 Taikocracy: check again
17:55 Taikocracy: I reupdated
18:01 Jonawaga: YAY
18:01 Jonawaga: 2 pretty girls
18:01 Jonawaga: in perfect view now
18:01 Taikocracy: XD
18:01 Jonawaga: sorry a lot of this was me intentionally wasting time XD
18:01 Taikocracy: LOL
18:01 Taikocracy: It's fine
18:02 Jonawaga: ready to blow some bubbles?
Stefan
Chatlog for things
01:39 *Stefan is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1154653 t+pazolite - Intro - the other Side [Oni]]
01:40 Stefan: I guess you REALLY want to stay with the 1.15 in the kiai, right?
01:40 Taikocracy: O:
01:40 Taikocracy: Well that part is much more intense than the rest of the song
01:40 Taikocracy: I think the SV speed up emphasizes tat
01:40 Taikocracy: That*
01:40 Stefan: I see, okay.
01:43 *Stefan is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1155174 t+pazolite - Intro - the other Side [Futsuu]]
01:44 Stefan: 01:24:898 (42) - this could be kddk like 01:29:326 (57,58,59,60) - is as well
01:44 Stefan: additionally, we could mirror 01:27:041 (49,50,51,52) - and 01:22:469 (33,34,35,36) - to these two parts
01:44 Stefan: and change them to dkkd (Dkkd for 01:22:469 (33,34,35,36) - )
01:45 Stefan: What do you think?
01:45 Taikocracy: So all those highlighted parts are kddk?
01:45 Stefan: 01:29:326 (57,58,59,60) - is kddk
01:46 Stefan: 01:24:755 (41,42,43,44) - is kkdk right now
01:46 Stefan: 01:27:041 (49,50,51,52) - and 01:22:469 (33,34,35,36) - are dddk but I suggested to change them to dkkd
01:46 Stefan: 01:22:469 (33,34,35,36) - to Dkkd (because you use a finisher)
01:47 Taikocracy: It sounds just as good
01:48 Stefan: Aye, okay.
01:48 Taikocracy: c:
01:48 Stefan: Now to my personal problem child
01:49 Taikocracy: :eyes:
01:53 Stefan: As weird it sounds
01:53 Stefan: but did you let confirm from someone (or by yourself) the metadata?
01:53 Taikocracy: Ayyri confirmed metadata
01:53 Stefan: Okay, that's enough for me.
01:53 Taikocracy: Skylish also looked at it when he did his first mod
01:54 Stefan: since "the other Side" looks so weird but then again because it looks so weird I can count it will be the right one.
01:55 Taikocracy: O:
02:04 Stefan: Okay uh..
02:04 Stefan: Two things we gonna do before we're done here
02:05 Stefan: first, the backgrounds.
02:05 Taikocracy: Alrighty!
02:05 Stefan: Although it doesn't really matter AS long you have good reasons to ignore the typical sizes we could reduce your current BG to 1024x768
02:06 Taikocracy: How do you do that
02:06 Taikocracy: :thinking:
02:06 Taikocracy: Do I have to change the resolution of the actual picture file
02:06 Stefan: Well, let me do this quick
02:08 Stefan: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/q5htkB4q.jpg use this
02:09 Taikocracy: Wait
02:09 Taikocracy: I set the BG to move downward
02:09 Taikocracy: If I change the picture don't I have to like mess with that setting again
02:10 Stefan: Uh, not necessarily
02:10 Stefan: You put the BG directly in the folder
02:10 Stefan: it should be even labeled the same like the old bg
02:12 Stefan: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/FhUIQ6oD.jpg use this for Ari's map
02:12 Stefan: (it really was 1365x768 gdi)
02:14 Taikocracy: Okay, got it
02:14 Stefan: Okay.
02:15 Stefan: for Futsuu and Kantan: Resnap all notes
02:16 Stefan: that function, you knw?
02:16 Stefan: *know
02:16 Taikocracy: Oh yeah
02:16 Stefan: Muzukashii and Oni were fine, checked them
02:16 Taikocracy: Done and done :3
02:16 Stefan: After then, go and update

tl;dr Backgrounds has been changed to standardized resolutions, small changes in the Futsuu kiai has been done.

Good night!
Edit: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/YicUpFgt.png Lovely.
Feerum
Hi.

Stefan did contact me in discord. It seems he forgot about the 24h rule.
Please wait from now on 21 more hours before qualify it again.

Reverted to bubble
Stefan
Okay.
zigizigiefe
omg congratz Taikocracy \o/
qoot8123
Hello! I have some concern about futsuu and spread:

The 5/2 break on kiai part seems a bit forced and become less rhythmic , however, the structure on 00:36:755 - ~ 00:55:041 - is much better to me because you followed significant rhythm and instrument which kiai doesn't. So I suggest you could follow similar structure like this(01:13:326 -~ 01:18:184 - )

Additionally, the spread between kantan and futsuu is pretty large, especially 01:31:612 - ~01:40:755 - ,and 00:55:041 - ~01:04:184 - is very close to kantan .


These are what I concerned, I'd like to know what you think about if you not agree these suggestions. :)
OnosakiHito
Disqualified this beatmap as concerns were raised. Please check these and give an answer to them.
Additionally, I feel the same as qoot about the mentioned 5/2 as they are indeed kind of forced. Give it some more opinions.
Topic Starter
Lumenite-
(Originally sent over PM)

Hi.

The 5/2 break you suggested is quite the opposite of forced. To emphasize this point, to make it the opposite of forced, I would have to place a note at 01:14:326 (And by extension all similar sounds), and in doing so would quickly make the Futsuu kiai simply too hard for lower-level players, and would nullify that Futsuu's should have consistent 3/1 or 4/1 breaks. 5/2 breaks (2.5/1 breaks) are as close of breaks as this kiai is able to provide. Image

Additionally, spread issues between 00:55:041 - ~01:04:184 are not big because the section is calm-there is not much else to add here that would make logical or coherent sense.

Lastly, I do agree with spread issues between 01:31:612 - ~01:40:755. I've decreased the density by removing most of the 1/2 patterns in this section of the map. I maintained some as to also compensate for the spread in the Muzukashii, with more demanding 1/2.

Sorry for the late reply, I never received any notification that someone left a post.

~Taikocracy

(Please PM me in game when you read this, I'll most likely be able to discuss in further detail in irc.)


EDIT: I fixed all of the density issues you mentioned after second review, however still keeping the kiai the same due to the same reasons as listed above.
Nardoxyribonucleic
As requested in-game, here is an modding log regarding the issues raised in disqualification.

IRC mod with Taikocracy, May 14, 2017
22:01 Taikocracy: Hi!
22:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: hi
22:05 Taikocracy: I think you checked one of my maps not to long ago, the other Side?
22:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: Just skimmed through that once some days ago
22:08 Taikocracy: Did you think it was fine?
22:15 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm. I think the notes in Futsuu's kiai is a bit dissociated...
22:16 Nardoxyribonucleic: Let me think of some suggestions for you rather than the one you mentioned in your post
22:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: What do you think of moving 01:13:469 (2) - to 01:14:184 - and changing to k ?
22:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: As a 210bpm Futsuu, using 4 notes in a row seems a bit hard, and the gap between this and Kantan is a bit wide
22:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: four 1/2 notes
22:32 Taikocracy: That's a genius idea
22:32 Taikocracy: O:
22:33 Taikocracy: How would it work starting at 01:22:469- tho?
22:33 Taikocracy: I keep messing up the format ahg
22:33 Nardoxyribonucleic: Let's see...
22:34 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:15:755 (10) - move to 01:16:469 - and then swap the 1/2 doublet to k d ?
22:35 Nardoxyribonucleic: Then the next two just repeat
22:36 Nardoxyribonucleic: http://puu.sh/vPK6U.jpg (cursor at 01:15:612 - )
22:38 Taikocracy: The rhythms changes at 01:22:469 (33) -
22:38 Taikocracy: Would you do the same thing
22:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:19:898 (24) - what about changing this note to k for the snare sound?
22:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: You may try something like this for the rhythm change: https://puu.sh/vPKrr.jpg
22:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: (cursor at 01:22:469 - )
22:46 Nardoxyribonucleic: Then this second half of the kiai could be reformed like [https://puu.sh/vPKuR.jpg this] for consistency (cursor at 01:26:469 - )
22:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: I tried to keep your patterning as much as possible
22:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: So you may take this as an reference to improve the association between notes in the kiai
22:49 Taikocracy: Sorry my replies are late, it's mother's day and all :P
22:51 Taikocracy: That reduced the SR a bit
22:52 Taikocracy: And it looks great
22:53 Nardoxyribonucleic: You are welcome. Do you need an irc log for this?
22:53 Taikocracy: Are there any other notes that you see around the set in general?
22:53 Taikocracy: Before you post an irc
22:57 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1155167 t+pazolite - Intro - the other Side [Kantan]]
22:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:49:612 - consider adding d here to cohere with 00:45:041 - ?
22:59 Nardoxyribonucleic: From 00:52:755 to 00:53:326 - how about mapping with 1/1 kkd here ?
22:59 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:52:755 - to 00:53:326 - *
23:00 Taikocracy: That looks great c:
23:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:26:469 (8) - k would sound better as the background pitch is decreasing across 01:26:469 - 01:27:041 -
23:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: But you may keep it as d too
23:05 Taikocracy: Nah, the k makes sense because it's still relative in pitch to notes 6 and 7
23:05 Taikocracy: Which are also k
23:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yeah, it's up to you
23:09 Nardoxyribonucleic: As I mainly help you about the issues related to this disqualification, I guess that's it. You may ask Jonawaga and Stefan for a recheck again. :3

Good luck~
Jonarwhal
seems like everything was fixed, qualified~
Skylish

Jonawaga wrote:

seems like everything was fixed, qualified~
Wait what?

There's likely a bunch of structural changes in the difficulties according to Nardo's IRC discussion with Taikocracy, shouldn't it be a bubble first?
pishifat
get a bubble lolz
Topic Starter
Lumenite-

Yuii- wrote:

pishifat wrote:

get a bubble lolz
hey that's pretty subjective
:thinking:
Stefan
Oh dear.

Let's give it one more attempt.
Surono
Jon allow me to check this and everything fine

back
OzzyOzrock
lol
ddfgit
hi
you on a rock floating in space
pretty cool, huh?
Topic Starter
Lumenite-

ddfgit wrote:

hi
you on a rock floating in space
pretty cool, huh?
i guess
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