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Qrispy Joybox feat.Chata - Yuuki no Pendant

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Kaifin
cute song

cute background

cuTE

maybe you should cut the mp3 at the end? since there is a sizable chunk there of just raw silence in the last 10 seconds

Easy

  1. 00:15:662 (1,2) - by adjusting the curve of 2, it can blanket the corresponding curve of 1 a lot better
  2. 00:41:533 (2,4) - the player wont see but your blanket is kind of broken because of the curve of the sliders
  3. 00:50:616 (1,2) - this kind of flow is quite unclear for new player who are unsure of whether to click the slider end or slider head a lot of the time: since it's not crystal clear what the flow is meant to be, they may end up clicking the slider end here
  4. 01:13:185 (7,1) - if you placed this to blanket which it looks like you did, it's not blanketed properly
  5. 01:17:313 (5,6,7) - this is also pretty mind melting flow for the new player, with the confusing shape of 5 and the transition from 6 to 7
  6. 01:22:267 (3,4) - this could lead to be incredibly confusing as well

    the other somewhat misleading flow i think is okay, but i pointed out every example that i think is simply too complex for this level of density/target audience

Normal

  1. 00:17:726 - i don't think there is enough spinner recovery time here between the end of the spinner and the first note
  2. 00:24:744 (2,3,4) - this is difficult, really difficult flow for a new player: this is like flow you'd find in a hard diff not a normal
  3. 01:04:102 (1) - DS
  4. 01:07:405 (1) - DS
  5. 01:19:789 (8,1,2,3,4) - uneven/straight line
  6. 01:21:441 (4,5,6,7,8) - ^^

    clean diff! i like that one

Hard

  1. 00:10:983 (3,4) - blanket
  2. 00:19:240 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - both lines are uneven D: make sure they are straight when you fix them
  3. 00:27:772 (2,3,4) - uneven line
  4. 00:37:405 (1,2,3) - a pretty small nitpick, if you made the line of 2 - 3 the same angle as the slider and lined it up a bit better with the angle of the slider it'd look super nice
  5. 00:50:065 (3,4,1) - uneven line
  6. 00:52:818 (2,3,4) - uneven line
  7. 00:55:570 (1,2,3) - ^^
  8. go through this whole map and check literally every line for being uneven tbh, a lot of them are simply just oddly spaced and i'm 99% sure you meant to make them even as they are spaced as lines: it really messes with the aesthetic of an otherwise well structured map: i wont point out any more
  9. 00:57:221 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i think this is super cute and a nice pattern
  10. 01:05:753 (1,2,3) - uneven spacing
  11. 01:15:661 (6,8) - bbbbbblanket
  12. 01:18:138 (1,2,3) - uneven spacing

    super sorry for nazi: i really like this diff i'm just trying to help pls do not get spirits killed

Light Insane

  1. 00:06:854 (3,4) - 00:03:001 (4,5,6,7) - wouldn't it make more sense to make the first time sliders and the second time circles? since the second time has more emphasis with the higher notes and then it introduces the rhythm to the player in a non clickable way before testing them on it
  2. 00:17:038 (2,1,2,3,4) - bbbblanket could be massively improved
  3. 00:39:331 (2,3,4) - unevenly spaced line
  4. 00:40:983 (2,3,4) - same (cause copy paste :p)
  5. 00:44:561 (3,4) - blanket could be slightly improved
  6. 00:45:937 (1,2,3) - uneven spacing
  7. 00:47:313 (1,2,3,4) - make these overlaps the same: it is pretty clear they aren't, to do this copy and paste 1 and 3, flip em and put them where 2 and 4 were
  8. 01:03:826 (7,8) - it is not very clear this is 1/1: it just looks like emphasized 1/2 spacing, maybe try putting it further down like this?
  9. 01:18:138 (4,1,2) - odd nitpick but based on your other structure i'm surprised this wasnt in line

Insane

  1. 00:06:854 (1,2) - 00:03:001 (3,4,5,6) - same complaint as last diff: also the line isn't evenly spaced
  2. 00:09:331 (3) - NC because all the other ones like this are NCd
  3. 00:34:377 (1,2,3,4) - unevenly spaced
  4. 00:39:331 (1,2,3) - unevenly spaced plus a little skewed to the side
  5. 00:45:937 (2,3,4) - not straight
  6. 00:51:717 (1,2) - be careful with flow like this: 45 degree angles have very icky flow and i don't think this is very well implemented here/the sound doesn't really call for it imo
  7. 01:26:120 (3,1) - blanket (left edge)

Extra

  1. 00:01:075 (1,2) - directly overlapping this or overlapping it a little less will end up looking a lot better
  2. 00:03:001 (1,2,3,4) - uneven spacing, same complaint as the other two diffs but this is just a subjective point since you did this so intentionally, just be sure if you change it to change it in all diffs
  3. 00:10:983 (3,5) - bbbbblanket
  4. 00:22:818 (1,2,3) - uneven spacing
  5. 00:30:249 (6,1) - bbblanket
  6. 00:48:414 (1,2,3,4) - uneven spacing, since this one is a TINY bit zigzaggy which i can't tell if its on purpose or mistake, just make the zig zag more defined if you wanted it to be that
  7. 01:01:625 (5,7) - bbbbbbblanket
  8. 01:08:092 - ignoring this note is a little weird to me, if you don't want it to be clickable you could make 01:07:955 (5) - a slider but it seems like a pretty vital note to skip
  9. 01:22:267 (1,3,5,7) - if you're gonna do this, make this part a line since the bottom is a clear shape (a curve)
  10. 01:26:396 (1) - no big curve like the other diffs????? you have the ending consistent on every diff :(

what a nice surprise, i enjoyed your spread of diffs + the song! one thing i noticed is that your extra lost a lot of structure that you had in your insane: maybe something to work towards in the future is having that great level of structure that was present in insane also be around with harder/more varied patterned like in extra. i'm just going to stop after your diffs because it is 4 am :) good luck with your set
fat pear
so unevennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Kaifin


dont kds this by accident like omar kamal did when i modded twice

Tsumia's Extra

  1. 00:05:203 (1,2) - bbbbbbbblanket
  2. 00:16:763 (1,2,3) - not going to continue to expand the spacing here like 00:16:763 (1,2,3) - ? the tone is still increasing, i liked that expanding spacing gimmick and it doesn't make sense to stop it halfway through the pattern
  3. 00:23:919 (6,1) - fix stack
  4. 00:26:120 (1,2,3) - uneven spacing
  5. 00:40:157 (3) - this placement is a bit odd to me: considering it breaks your cleanish structure by overlapping 00:39:469 (8) - so blatantly and also being quite similar to your 1/1 spacing: perhaps a more interesting/better to read pattern would be this (the distance between 00:40:157 (3,4) - is the same distance/angle as between 00:39:056 (7,8) -
  6. 00:40:432 (4,1) - fix stack
  7. 00:44:010 (1,1) - fix stack
  8. check all your stacks cause a majority of them are stack bugged
  9. 00:46:900 (7,8,9,1) - why are these so close in comparison to all the others? there's no real emphasis here to lower the spacing, the linear flow of the curve already gives it plenty of emphasis for the 'feel' of the vocal and the starting of the new section, spacing these slightly more so they aren't touching will both make it look better + make sense from a consistency standpoint
  10. oh you use this spacing the entire next section... then i would space literally everything in this segment by 0.1x more so that they aren't touching because the barely touching aes is kinda ugly, this is a subjective suggestion though so if you find it aesthetically nice then whatever floats your boat, generally overlaps like this don't look nice though it's like the uncanny valley of spacing
  11. 00:52:267 (1) - last note of this line is uneven
  12. 00:52:542 (2,3,4,1) - also not straight/evenly spaced
  13. 00:53:919 (5) - NC for your NC structure (since you nc at 00:55:570 (1) - and 00:57:221 (1) -
  14. 00:54:744 (7,1) - stack
  15. 00:56:671 (6,2) - stack as well, if you're doing these 2 on purpose little stuff like this just looks BETTER stacked unless you're doing consistent overlap structure/memes which you arent
  16. 01:01:212 (3,5,7) - if you're going to do this: make the distance between them even or just separate them completely, your structure will thank you
  17. 01:08:230 (4,1) - blanket could be cleaned up a bit (middle)
  18. 01:10:157 (8,9) - wouldn't it make more sense to use this rhythm at 01:06:854 - when it is first introduced, then make this part clickable? since this is a lot easier to sight read than 01:06:579 (7,8,9,10) - and prepares the player to play stuff like 01:06:579 (7,8,9,10) -
  19. 01:11:120 (4,8) - just stack, you stack 01:10:983 (3,9) - so no reason why this one should be overlapped
  20. 01:12:909 (3,5) - is this a hidden overlap cause i couldn't even see it in the editor until the slider came back around
  21. this is also an example of how you made this rhythm clickable the VERY FIRST time it appears, then made it easy the next two times when it should be in reverse
  22. 01:20:341 (3,4,1) - uneven spacing/line
  23. 01:24:469 (4,6) - half hidden repeat, not unrankable: just distasteful

because of your style ambient i don't think i'm the modder for your diff: you should check stuff like your triangles though as i noticed a few were slightly off + lines, just objective nitpicky shit but i can't really touch the massively overlapped diff other than to say meh


good luck!
Ambient

Kaifin wrote:

because of your style ambient i don't think i'm the modder for your diff: you should check stuff like your triangles though as i noticed a few were slightly off + lines, just objective nitpicky shit but i can't really touch the massively overlapped diff other than to say meh
no worries, can agree that some stuff is pretty messy but other than that, meh.
will go through it ;)
Topic Starter
kwk

Kaifin wrote:

cute song

cute background

cuTE

maybe you should cut the mp3 at the end? since there is a sizable chunk there of just raw silence in the last 10 seconds :arrow: yeah i'll do that when i remember to

Easy

  1. 00:50:616 (1,2) - this kind of flow is quite unclear for new player who are unsure of whether to click the slider end or slider head a lot of the time: since it's not crystal clear what the flow is meant to be, they may end up clicking the slider end here
  2. 01:17:313 (5,6,7) - this is also pretty mind melting flow for the new player, with the confusing shape of 5 and the transition from 6 to 7
  3. 01:22:267 (3,4) - this could lead to be incredibly confusing as well

    the other somewhat misleading flow i think is okay, but i pointed out every example that i think is simply too complex for this level of density/target audience :arrow: these newer players just need to get good xd, i changed everything you mentioned since yeah i do agree with it

Normal

  1. 00:17:726 - i don't think there is enough spinner recovery time here between the end of the spinner and the first note :arrow: changed to a note at 00:18:964 (1) - so now theres 1.5s~ recovery time
  2. 00:24:744 (2,3,4) - this is difficult, really difficult flow for a new player: this is like flow you'd find in a hard diff not a normal :arrow: rip patterning changed this to avoid ambiguous flow directions

    clean diff! i like that one

Hard

  1. 00:37:405 (1,2,3) - a pretty small nitpick, if you made the line of 2 - 3 the same angle as the slider and lined it up a bit better with the angle of the slider it'd look super nice :arrow: ya should be good now
  2. go through this whole map and check literally every line for being uneven tbh, a lot of them are simply just oddly spaced and i'm 99% sure you meant to make them even as they are spaced as lines: it really messes with the aesthetic of an otherwise well structured map: i wont point out any more :arrow: i'd love to say that they were 100% intentional but sadly they are not,i think i fixed them all up so it should be good now
  3. 00:57:221 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i think this is super cute and a nice pattern :arrow: i think so too

    super sorry for nazi: i really like this diff i'm just trying to help pls do not get spirits killed :arrow: wont be enough to kill my spirits ww

Light Insane

  1. 00:06:854 (3,4) - 00:03:001 (4,5,6,7) - wouldn't it make more sense to make the first time sliders and the second time circles? since the second time has more emphasis with the higher notes and then it introduces the rhythm to the player in a non clickable way before testing them on it :arrow: makes sense too but its so early in the song you can just retry if you cant grasp timing, sliders are used to emphasise the sound at 00:06:854 (1) - and 00:07:130 (2) - where compared to 00:03:001 (3,5) - its not distinctly louder than the beats that follow. I could group them into doubles for the second occurence but that just seems to make it unnecessarily difficult for a calm section
  2. 01:03:826 (7,8) - it is not very clear this is 1/1: it just looks like emphasized 1/2 spacing, maybe try putting it further down like this? :arrow: took your suggestion
  3. 01:18:138 (4,1,2) - odd nitpick but based on your other structure i'm surprised this wasnt in line :arrow: it's supposed to be, not sure what happened lul

Insane

  1. 00:06:854 (1,2) - 00:03:001 (3,4,5,6) - same complaint as last diff: also the line isn't evenly spaced :arrow: same reasoning as before
  2. 00:51:717 (1,2) - be careful with flow like this: 45 degree angles have very icky flow and i don't think this is very well implemented here/the sound doesn't really call for it imo :arrow: changed patterning so angles are not as harsh

Extra

  1. 00:01:075 (1,2) - directly overlapping this or overlapping it a little less will end up looking a lot better :arrow: yeah i agree, it was like that before not sure what happened
  2. 00:03:001 (1,2,3,4) - uneven spacing, same complaint as the other two diffs but this is just a subjective point since you did this so intentionally, just be sure if you change it to change it in all diffs :arrow: same same ^
  3. 01:08:092 - ignoring this note is a little weird to me, if you don't want it to be clickable you could make 01:07:955 (5) - a slider but it seems like a pretty vital note to skip :arrow: changed to a slider
  4. 01:22:267 (1,3,5,7) - if you're gonna do this, make this part a line since the bottom is a clear shape (a curve) :arrow: ya
  5. 01:26:396 (1) - no big curve like the other diffs????? you have the ending consistent on every diff :( :arrow: made it a circle lul

what a nice surprise, i enjoyed your spread of diffs + the song! one thing i noticed is that your extra lost a lot of structure that you had in your insane: maybe something to work towards in the future is having that great level of structure that was present in insane also be around with harder/more varied patterned like in extra. i'm just going to stop after your diffs because it is 4 am :) good luck with your set :arrow: yeah i might remap some of the patterns in the extra since i think theres a lot more potential that can be explored i think, the main idea of it was zigzag patterns but i think execution of it can still be improved quite a bit
thanks for the mod Kaifin! i fixed everything else not mentioned in my reply~
Tsumia

Kaifin wrote:

Tsumia's Extra

Thank you for the mod, fixed everything you suggested
- Frontier -
Is this song about tragic love?
:thonkang:

edit: your bpm should be 3/4 (waltz). It more fits with the song. idk how to explain ;;
Ambient

- Frontier - wrote:

Is this song about tragic love?
i'll DQ you mate
- Frontier -

Ambient wrote:

i'll DQ you mate
:feelsbadman:
Sakurauchi Riko
as requested

you song is based on 3/4 (waltz) beat, like already said by frontier so change that
top difficulty:
00:03:037 (1,2) - im not a fan of mapping these sound equally because 00:03:450 - is very different from the 3 sounds before. making the first slider reverse (so the 3 similar sounds are in one group) and a circle for the 4th different sound would represent the music better imo (you can consider doing extended slider instead of circle but meh..)
00:04:138 (6) - DS emphasis for this really loud sound? its different from the others in its strength but mapped equally. then you can maybe make a decreasing ds pattern for 00:04:413 (7,8) - these sounds because the volume increases aswell, just an idea
00:15:698 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - i like the increasing of ds you did here, but i'd nerf every spacing equally because its only these sounds (no background sounds) and its at the beginning of the song so the player isnt familiar with the speed of those yet. i just dont feel like its that intense especially in the beginning of the pattern
00:19:276 (1,2,1) - these have the same sound, 00:20:101 (2) - is slightly stornger and 00:20:377 (1,2) - are equally very strong. imo the seperation of 00:19:276 (1,2) - and 00:19:826 (1,2) - is wrong because 00:19:826 (1) - is rather similar to the sounds before than to the sound after
00:22:441 - missing beat
00:30:973 - ^
00:43:771 (3,1) - make this same ds like you did before 00:37:441 (1,2) - 00:34:138 (1,2) - and so on
00:49:276 (2,3,4,5) - id do the same sldiershape for all of them because they represent similar sound and vocal, and you get a better transition between them and 00:49:000 (1) - that has no vocal
00:58:909 (1) - why does that have less spacing than the jumps before, its clearly the storngest sound here
01:00:193 (5,1,2,3) - i understand why you break flow here but this is a bit too harsh imo, it plays really awkwardly tho, breaking the flow under like 140° instead of 180° would be more appropriate for playability imo
01:00:560 (3,4,5,3) - not a fan of this overlaps, looks pretty unstructured (i know you blanket it with slider but the circles destroy it)
01:04:413 (3,4) - this is really weird because you dont use this at all in your map, actually i dont even understand why you decided to decrease the DS that drastically suddenly because yea.. you dont do that anywhere else. only at spots like 01:09:917 (5,6,7) - but at these you keep the low DS, for 01:04:413 (3,4,5,6) - you dont
01:06:890 (2,3,4,5) - stacked quad is evil but whatever xD not a fan of this because you dont have quads introduced anywhere else and quads are bad to play and bad to read if stacked, just personal opinion i guess
01:08:128 (4,1,2) - i think this is awkward because you mix up the 1/4 jumpy pattern with 1/2 rhythm, if they were in a different pattern it would work better

rest looks good i guess, personally not a fan of 01:22:854 (5,1,2,3,4) - this as overlap and with that the whole pattern but well.
lol wtf this is 6* i just realised now after modding xD okay then.

extra:
i tihnk it would look better if you seperate 00:19:276 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - from 00:18:863 (2) - so they dont overlap anymore. they have nothing to do with each other and it visually looks better without the reverse slider overlapping almost the whole circle pattern
00:29:734 (3,4,5) - this jump angle would work better if it was like http://puu.sh/vwN6v/965d1514cc.jpg because that way you break the circular flow of 00:29:459 (1,2,3,4) - . currently its like 50% circular and 50% sharp angle emphasis. just plays better that way
00:40:468 (3,1) - this is way too much distance in between.. 8.5x? id not go over 4.00x. basically guranteed sliderfuck 100x xD
00:46:799 (1,2) - make this like 00:40:193 (2,3) - , its the same musically and you almost did the same visually. (and 5.5 for 00:47:349 (1) - is still too much imo )
00:48:725 (3) - this sound should be represented in some way, you should not treat it like the other sounds around it because you lose the empahsis. same for similar
00:53:955 (1,2,3,4,5) - why you stack suddenly? looks really messy though, very different from the usual patterning, makes no sense to me
00:57:257 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - would be better playability with http://puu.sh/vwNuJ/9a7e982bf5.jpg
01:01:661 (5,6) - no flow at all, this plays really bad because the reverse slider tends in very different direction for no reason.
01:04:137 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - not a fan of this because nothing gets empashized here (except the ending a tiny bit), it feels like everything is equal but the music is not
01:10:193 (3) - offscreen
01:13:496 (1,2) - same thing i mentioned earlier for 01:01:661 (5,6) - basically. id not cosnider this as kickslider
01:17:073 (4,1) - please..
01:23:404 (1,2) - jesus christ, this plays like really akward.. all these spots i mentioned
01:15:973 (2,3,4) - you didnt do this overlap/spacing anywhere else, dont really understand why its there

tsumia extra:
00:48:726 (6) - same thing i mentioned in the other extra: it doesnt represent the music very well if you treat this sound like tthe others around there because it has this other strong sound on it. same for 00:49:000 (1) - in this pattern, but this is NC so you >could< leave that but yea...
00:58:083 (4,1) - weird that this 1/2 has same visual spacing like the 1/4 jumps after, could be very likely missleading (expecially because its stacked with jump pattern so its part of it)
01:07:165 (2,1) - same here, but i guess since you build a concept out of it you can leave that, but then again its confusing because you dont do that for 01:10:468 (9,1) - which is exactly same :/ idk
01:06:890 (1,2) - bad flow, awkward to hit since slider tends in very diff direction than the next object is, id not consider this as kickslider or anything, the player will follow the slider shape

big fan of this diff, great job
just my very honest opinion: i think that this diff woulda been enough to be the highest diff with few adjsutments of sounds you didnt map. but thats my opinion only!!

Okay I think ill leave this for now, I hope i could help you a bit.
i feel like i sounded a bit harsh at some points but dont take it in a negative way, i didnt meant it so if i did sound harsh!! ><
ncie song, cool diffs (lower diffs looked kinda ok too at first sight)

good luck
Ambient

Phyloukz wrote:

top difficulty:
00:03:037 (1,2) - im not a fan of mapping these sound equally because 00:03:450 - is very different from the 3 sounds before. making the first slider reverse (so the 3 similar sounds are in one group) and a circle for the 4th different sound would represent the music better imo (you can consider doing extended slider instead of circle but meh..) - Meh, isn't really a point in making this any different, trying to be minimalistic whilst following piano.
00:04:138 (6) - DS emphasis for this really loud sound? its different from the others in its strength but mapped equally. then you can maybe make a decreasing ds pattern for 00:04:413 (7,8) - these sounds because the volume increases aswell, just an idea - Fair enough, moved some stuff.
00:15:698 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - i like the increasing of ds you did here, but i'd nerf every spacing equally because its only these sounds (no background sounds) and its at the beginning of the song so the player isnt familiar with the speed of those yet. i just dont feel like its that intense especially in the beginning of the pattern - Its only 15 sec in. thats what retrying is for. i understand the fact it comes out of no where but thats to be expected with the itensity of that section plus the map being close to 6 stars.
00:19:276 (1,2,1) - these have the same sound, 00:20:101 (2) - is slightly stornger and 00:20:377 (1,2) - are equally very strong. imo the seperation of 00:19:276 (1,2) - and 00:19:826 (1,2) - is wrong because 00:19:826 (1) - is rather similar to the sounds before than to the sound after - Changed volume on every NC.
00:22:441 - missing beat - Fixed.
00:30:973 - ^ - Keeping as is soley for the reason that it didnt get mentioned in the previous pattern, also i feel like its over mapping a little.
00:43:771 (3,1) - make this same ds like you did before 00:37:441 (1,2) - 00:34:138 (1,2) - and so on - Fixed.
00:49:276 (2,3,4,5) - id do the same sldiershape for all of them because they represent similar sound and vocal, and you get a better transition between them and 00:49:000 (1) - that has no vocal - Good point, fixed.
00:58:909 (1) - why does that have less spacing than the jumps before, its clearly the storngest sound here
01:00:193 (5,1,2,3) - i understand why you break flow here but this is a bit too harsh imo, it plays really awkwardly tho, breaking the flow under like 140° instead of 180° would be more appropriate for playability imo - Don't really know what you mean here but i tried something.
01:00:560 (3,4,5,3) - not a fan of this overlaps, looks pretty unstructured (i know you blanket it with slider but the circles destroy it) - Moved some stuff around.
01:04:413 (3,4) - this is really weird because you dont use this at all in your map, actually i dont even understand why you decided to decrease the DS that drastically suddenly because yea.. you dont do that anywhere else. only at spots like 01:09:917 (5,6,7) - but at these you keep the low DS, for 01:04:413 (3,4,5,6) - you dont - Slighty shuffled some notes around.
01:06:890 (2,3,4,5) - stacked quad is evil but whatever xD not a fan of this because you dont have quads introduced anywhere else and quads are bad to play and bad to read if stacked, just personal opinion i guess - I understand, quads are annoying, but it'd be hard to mess this up since you can't miss if you tap 5 times like per usual, also 2 more stacks of quads come up later.
01:08:128 (4,1,2) - i think this is awkward because you mix up the 1/4 jumpy pattern with 1/2 rhythm, if they were in a different pattern it would work better - Changed them to jumps.

rest looks good i guess, personally not a fan of 01:22:854 (5,1,2,3,4) - this as overlap and with that the whole pattern but well.
lol wtf this is 6* i just realised now after modding xD okay then. - Fixed it up a tad.
Cheers for the mod~

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Title:Yuuki no Pendant
TitleUnicode:勇気のペンダント
Artist:Qrispy Joybox feat.Chata
ArtistUnicode:Qrispy Joybox feat.茶太
Creator:kwk
Version:Ambient's Lost Pendant of a Tragic Love Song
Source:REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア
Tags:Ambient Tsumia
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//Break Periods
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6th
Hey

[Normal]
00:22:303 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - What's the point of having gaps like 00:22:028 - if you map so many ticks in a row after ?
00:24:230 (1,3) - Blanket
00:30:835 (1,2) - ^
00:32:487 (4,5,6) - Do not make them overlap since it doesn't fit the rest of your diff.
01:20:651 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing could visually look more consistent

[Light Insane]
00:03:725 (1,2,3,4) - Make spacing consistent ?
00:17:349 (1,2,3,4) - CTRL+G to make flow smoother ? Streams are already hard to tap for 4* players.
00:49:000 (5,1) - Switch NCs and make flow consistent with 00:47:349 (1,2,3,4) -
00:50:651 (5,1,2,3) - Same, etc
01:04:825 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - *dies* you don't figure out how doubles are hard to tap, especially at that speed xD
01:11:568 (5,6,7) - I advise converting them into a reversed sliders to bring some emphasis to 01:12:394 (1,2,3,4) - since they are circles too.


[Extra]
00:15:698 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The concept is interesting but well... does the song really support it ? It's probably the hardest pattern of the map.
00:21:477 (3,1,2) - They look equally spaced which is an issue since it almost never happens in that diff. I'd advise to switch NCs between these 00:21:753 (1,2) - and then place the circle closer from the previous slider.
00:24:505 (1,2) - Slider instead ? Fits the vocals better since it's was you're focusing on.
00:36:890 (2,3) - I personally hate that kind of thing but nvm lol
00:53:955 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make spacing consistent
00:57:257 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Why does the pattern stops at (5) ? Just make an hexagon.
01:05:789 (1,2,3) - Why is the spacing lowering here ?

[Ambient's Lost Pendant of a Tragic Love Song]
Hm... diff name could be shortened lol.
00:16:936 (1,2,3) - why is it linear ? I have nothing against linear flow but here it looks just random since all other circles use back'n'forth.
00:24:505 (2,3) - Line them up ? Also, I think it's better if you place (3) closer from (2) so the pattern looks more structured.
00:45:285 (5,6) - Add a direction change as you did for 00:44:459 (2,3) - .
00:54:780 (5) - CTRL+G to improve flow ? It would also bring more emphasis to 00:55:055 (1) -
01:00:377 (1,2,3,4,5) - I really recommand using some sliders instead of circles only since suddenly start tapping 1/4 on a "red tick" at 01:00:835 (1) - is kinda annoying.
01:02:762 (2) - I'm certain that you can avoid the overlap with 01:02:211 (4) - . Move it to (224;208) ?
01:04:138 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Hmm... I'm really unsure about that... they really look unstructured, could you bring some reasoning on how you placed them ?
01:06:890 (2,3,4,5) - 1/6 is unexpected here, I recommand using sliders.

Good luck !
Ambient

6th wrote:

Hey
[Ambient's Lost Pendant of a Tragic Love Song]
Hm... diff name could be shortened lol. - Perhaps.
00:16:936 (1,2,3) - why is it linear ? I have nothing against linear flow but here it looks just random since all other circles use back'n'forth. - Variation
00:24:505 (2,3) - Line them up ? Also, I think it's better if you place (3) closer from (2) so the pattern looks more structured. - Fixed.
00:45:285 (5,6) - Add a direction change as you did for 00:44:459 (2,3) - . - Fixed.
00:54:780 (5) - CTRL+G to improve flow ? It would also bring more emphasis to 00:55:055 (1) - - Fixed.
01:00:377 (1,2,3,4,5) - I really recommand using some sliders instead of circles only since suddenly start tapping 1/4 on a "red tick" at 01:00:835 (1) - is kinda annoying. - Rip update
01:02:762 (2) - I'm certain that you can avoid the overlap with 01:02:211 (4) - . Move it to (224;208) ? - Fixed.
01:04:138 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Hmm... I'm really unsure about that... they really look unstructured, could you bring some reasoning on how you placed them ? - Not really no, unless i get given suggestions on it i wont change it.
01:06:890 (2,3,4,5) - 1/6 is unexpected here, I recommand using sliders. - 1/6 already gets introduced right before kiai time, so you'd half expect people to remember that later on.

Good luck !
thanks for the mod~

kwk pls
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108,236,82991,1,0,0:0:0:0:
319,279,83129,1,0,0:0:0:0:
206,353,83266,1,0,0:0:0:0:
234,196,83404,5,8,0:0:0:0:
234,196,83496,1,8,0:0:0:0:
234,196,83588,1,8,0:0:0:0:
234,196,83679,1,8,0:0:0:0:
92,348,83955,6,0,P|143:356|217:340,1,97.9999970092774,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
287,143,84230,1,0,0:0:0:0:
250,242,84367,1,0,0:0:0:0:
143,280,84504,2,0,L|140:129,1,97.9999970092774,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,100,84780,2,0,L|371:251,1,97.9999970092774,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
92,114,85055,2,0,P|136:102|204:122,1,97.9999970092774,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
423,269,85330,2,0,P|379:281|311:261,1,97.9999970092774,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
259,52,85606,5,8,0:0:0:0:
255,149,85881,1,0,0:0:0:0:
249,246,86156,1,2,0:0:0:0:
243,352,86431,6,0,B|254:318|254:318|235:289|235:289|276:249|241:198|241:198|286:204|308:179|315:148|302:124|257:123|247:164,1,315.000012016297,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
kwk

Phyloukz wrote:

as requested

you song is based on 3/4 (waltz) beat, like already said by frontier so change that

extra:
i tihnk it would look better if you seperate 00:19:276 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - from 00:18:863 (2) - so they dont overlap anymore. they have nothing to do with each other and it visually looks better without the reverse slider overlapping almost the whole circle pattern :arrow: shifted the notes a little maybe its not what you would prefer though
00:29:734 (3,4,5) - this jump angle would work better if it was like http://puu.sh/vwN6v/965d1514cc.jpg because that way you break the circular flow of 00:29:459 (1,2,3,4) - . currently its like 50% circular and 50% sharp angle emphasis. just plays better that way :arrow: mm i dont really notice much difference tbh so i'll keep it for now
00:40:468 (3,1) - this is way too much distance in between.. 8.5x? id not go over 4.00x. basically guranteed sliderfuck 100x xD :arrow: i dont think its as hard as it looks..
00:46:799 (1,2) - make this like 00:40:193 (2,3) - , its the same musically and you almost did the same visually. (and 5.5 for 00:47:349 (1) - is still too much imo ) :arrow: changed it a bit
00:48:725 (3) - this sound should be represented in some way, you should not treat it like the other sounds around it because you lose the empahsis. same for similar :arrow: i could stress it through different dsing but i dont want to make it needlessly difficult
00:53:955 (1,2,3,4,5) - why you stack suddenly? looks really messy though, very different from the usual patterning, makes no sense to me :arrow: changed it
00:57:257 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - would be better playability with http://puu.sh/vwNuJ/9a7e982bf5.jpg :arrow: changed to a hexagon
01:01:661 (5,6) - no flow at all, this plays really bad because the reverse slider tends in very different direction for no reason. :arrow: huh?
its just back and forth flow

01:04:137 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - not a fan of this because nothing gets empashized here (except the ending a tiny bit), it feels like everything is equal but the music is not :arrow: i'll change it later when i get some ideas but yeah i agree
01:10:193 (3) - offscreen :arrow: shift it a bit
01:13:496 (1,2) - same thing i mentioned earlier for 01:01:661 (5,6) - basically. id not cosnider this as kickslider :arrow: ctrl+g 2nd slider so it s a bit better
01:17:073 (4,1) - please.. :arrow: its ez
01:23:404 (1,2) - jesus christ, this plays like really akward.. all these spots i mentioned :arrow: i changed positioning on this so its a bit better
01:15:973 (2,3,4) - you didnt do this overlap/spacing anywhere else, dont really understand why its there :arrow: changed it

Okay I think ill leave this for now, I hope i could help you a bit.
i feel like i sounded a bit harsh at some points but dont take it in a negative way, i didnt meant it so if i did sound harsh!! ><
ncie song, cool diffs (lower diffs looked kinda ok too at first sight)

good luck

6th wrote:

Hey

[Normal]
00:22:303 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - What's the point of having gaps like 00:22:028 - if you map so many ticks in a row after ? :arrow: cause i think its better for there to be a pause in between the long chains in a normal diff
00:24:230 (1,3) - Blanket :arrow: fixed
00:30:835 (1,2) - ^ :arrow: ^
00:32:487 (4,5,6) - Do not make them overlap since it doesn't fit the rest of your diff. :arrow: fixed blame stacking bugs
01:20:651 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing could visually look more consistent :arrow: fixed

[Light Insane]
00:03:725 (1,2,3,4) - Make spacing consistent ? :arrow: dont really see a need to
00:17:349 (1,2,3,4) - CTRL+G to make flow smoother ? Streams are already hard to tap for 4* players. :arrow: not sure how ctrl+g makes this flow easier? seems a lot harder to me tbh
00:49:000 (5,1) - Switch NCs and make flow consistent with 00:47:349 (1,2,3,4) - :arrow: switched NC's and not sure what you mean with the flow
00:50:651 (5,1,2,3) - Same, etc :arrow: fixed
01:04:825 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - *dies* you don't figure out how doubles are hard to tap, especially at that speed xDyeah its suppose to be hard, i wanted to add emphasis in this section somehow without resorting to jump patterns and this is what i ended up with
01:11:568 (5,6,7) - I advise converting them into a reversed sliders to bring some emphasis to 01:12:394 (1,2,3,4) - since they are circles too. :arrow: makes sense but


[Extra]
00:15:698 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The concept is interesting but well... does the song really support it ? It's probably the hardest pattern of the map. :arrow: i think it does, its just instead of higherspacing it just has a more difficult flow
00:21:477 (3,1,2) - They look equally spaced which is an issue since it almost never happens in that diff. I'd advise to switch NCs between these 00:21:753 (1,2) - and then place the circle closer from the previous slider. :arrow: i kinda see what you mean but i'll keep it for now since i dont have any ideas im happy with
00:24:505 (1,2) - Slider instead ? Fits the vocals better since it's was you're focusing on. :arrow: prefer to keep the 5 note streams
00:36:890 (2,3) - I personally hate that kind of thing but nvm lol
00:53:955 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make spacing consistent :arrow: changed it a bit
00:57:257 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Why does the pattern stops at (5) ? Just make an hexagon. :arrow: :arrow: good point..changed
01:05:789 (1,2,3) - Why is the spacing lowering here ? :arrow: i'll rework this pattern later


Good luck !
thanks for the mods! i'll polish extra a bit more when i get some ideas
Ellyu
Hi from my q

[General]
soft-hitclap volume should be lower.
soft-hitwhistle.wav<100ms

[Easy]
  1. chata my waifu
  2. 01:04:138 (6) - nc plz
  3. chata my waifu
  4. I am gud modder
[Normal]
  1. chata my waifu
  2. 00:33:037 (5,6) - no stack to keep consistence
  3. 01:01:661 (3,5) - try to avoid this kinda overlap. they overlap too much for the beginners to read it clear
  4. chata my waifu
[Hard]
  1. chata my waifu
  2. 00:11:019 (3,4) - blanket properly plz
  3. 00:45:698 (5) - nc
  4. 01:05:789 (1,2,3) - sliders
  5. 01:03:312 (4,5,6) - space sud be bigger compared with the super fast sliders
  6. 01:07:990 (3,1) - 01:11:568 (6,7,8,1) - same as^
  7. chata my waifu
[Ambient's Hyper]
  1. chata my waifu
  2. 00:34:964 (4,5) -dis is 1/4 gap 00:35:789 (6,1) - dis is 1/2 gap. gud space
  3. 01:08:266 (5,6,7) - space larger plz.compare with the super fast sliders they are too small
  4. 01:11:844 (4,5,1) - 01:16:523 (5,6,7) - same as^
  5. 01:11:293 (3) - make the last beat clicable. a 1/2 reversed slider to end a patter is not that gud
  6. 01:13:495 (5) - split it into 2 reversed sliders
  7. 01:22:302 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 01:09:091 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - kip consistence? cuz I don't like the idea that 1/2 stack circle now.
  8. chata my waifu
[Ambient's blablablah extra]
  1. chata my waifu
  2. 00:11:569 (5) - avoid being overlap with itself
  3. 00:44:459 (2,4) - could do a blanket
  4. 00:58:909 (1) - move it to keep the circular flow .someplace like 216|36 feel gud for me
  5. 01:17:349 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - add some 1/2 slider here.
  6. chata my waifu
[The rest diffs]
I am a lazy bad ass.

GL
Ambient

Ellyu wrote:

[Ambient's Hyper]
  1. 00:34:964 (4,5) -dis is 1/4 gap 00:35:789 (6,1) - dis is 1/2 gap. gud space - Gud fix.
  2. 01:08:266 (5,6,7) - space larger plz.compare with the super fast sliders they are too small - Fixed.
  3. 01:11:844 (4,5,1) - 01:16:523 (5,6,7) - same as^ - ^^^
  4. 01:11:293 (3) - make the last beat clicable. a 1/2 reversed slider to end a patter is not that gud - Fixed.
  5. 01:13:495 (5) - split it into 2 reversed sliders - Fixed.
  6. 01:22:302 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 01:09:091 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - kip consistence? cuz I don't like the idea that 1/2 stack circle now. - It is consistent?
[Ambient's blablablah extra]
  1. 00:11:569 (5) - avoid being overlap with itself - Eeeeh, i moved it a tad, want it to be touching though.
  2. 00:44:459 (2,4) - could do a blanket - pickyyyy fixed.
  3. 00:58:909 (1) - move it to keep the circular flow .someplace like 216|36 feel gud for me - Okie will do.
  4. 01:17:349 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - add some 1/2 slider here. - Done.
GL
chata is my waifu too, thanks for the mod~

Hyper
Extra
Topic Starter
kwk

Ellyu wrote:

Hi from my q

[General]
soft-hitclap volume should be lower.
soft-hitwhistle.wav<100ms
:arrow: i'll change these later
[Easy]
  1. chata my waifu
  2. 01:04:138 (6) - nc plz ok :arrow: ok
  3. chata my waifu
  4. I am gud modder :arrow: very gud
[Normal]
  1. chata my waifu
  2. 00:33:037 (5,6) - no stack to keep consistence :arrow: just treat it as variation or a build up to next section
  3. 01:01:661 (3,5) - try to avoid this kinda overlap. they overlap too much for the beginners to read it clear :arrow: change patterning
  4. chata my waifu
[Hard]
  1. chata my waifu
  2. 00:11:019 (3,4) - blanket properly plz :arrow: adjusted
  3. 00:45:698 (5) - nc :arrow: k
  4. 01:05:789 (1,2,3) - sliders :arrow: dont think its needed, i think its nicer this way
  5. 01:03:312 (4,5,6) - space sud be bigger compared with the super fast sliders :arrow: adjust patterning a bit to 1x
  6. 01:07:990 (3,1) - 01:11:568 (6,7,8,1) - same as^ :arrow: dont think its necessary
  7. chata my waifu
GL
chata~

thanks for the mod!
AchsanLovers
hello
just wanna to help some
also my 2nd std mod

[General things]

- "P" in "P"endant should "p" not with capitalized. source : http://remywiki.com/Yuuki_no_pendant

- 00:05:239 - 00:09:367 - 00:13:496 - add a new red tick in here for offset reset

- turn off widescreen support since you not use any SB file

- feels like the BPM is 218, 109 didn't connect to beat

- add to tags : TATSUYA IYAMA Yuukyuu no Reflesia The Eternity of Reflesia

[Easy]

- 00:25:881 (5) - delete and 00:25:055 (4) - make it stop in 00:25:881 - for make it flow with 00:22:578 (2) -

- 00:31:661 (4,5) - ^ u know what to do also NC to?

- 00:47:349 (1) - so why you make a spinner in here? it still good if you make some slider in here

- 01:08:541 (2) - delete? make 01:07:441 (1,3) - more flow

[Normal]

- 00:47:074 - add a circle ?

-----------------------------------------

ok just it hope it help
also can i take your mp3 and bg? wanna make mania map ._.

good luck ~

kd me pls
Topic Starter
kwk

AchsanLovers wrote:

hello
just wanna to help some
also my 2nd std mod

[General things]

- "P" in "P"endant should "p" not with capitalized. source : http://remywiki.com/Yuuki_no_pendant
- 00:05:239 - 00:09:367 - 00:13:496 - add a new red tick in here for offset reset

- turn off widescreen support since you not use any SB fileits not really necessary..

- feels like the BPM is 218, 109 didn't connect to beat :arrow: maybe, i'll get some more confirmations later but from the above source it does say 109bpm lol

- add to tags : TATSUYA IYAMA Yuukyuu no Reflesia The Eternity of Reflesia :arrow: sure

[Easy]

- 00:25:881 (5) - delete and 00:25:055 (4) - make it stop in 00:25:881 - for make it flow with 00:22:578 (2) - :arrow: not really sure what you mean but i want to keep the note cause i want that beat to be clickable

- 00:31:661 (4,5) - ^ u know what to do also NC to? :arrow: no, its NC'd every 2 bars

- 00:47:349 (1) - so why you make a spinner in here? it still good if you make some slider in here :arrow: cause i want to have a spinner in the map

- 01:08:541 (2) - delete? make 01:07:441 (1,3) - more flow? :arrow: keep note because its highlighting vocal and i think flow is fine tbh

[Normal]

- 00:47:074 - add a circle ? :arrow: for this difficulty i think 1/1 gap before spinner is good

-----------------------------------------

ok just it hope it help
also can i take your mp3 and bg? wanna make mania map ._.

good luck ~

kd me pls
regarding metadata

IamKwaN wrote:

sure

Unicode Title: 勇気のペンダント
Romanised Title: Yuuki no Pendant
Unicode Artist: Qrispy Joybox feat.茶太
Romanised Artist: Qrispy Joybox feat.Chata
Source: REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア

References:
https://p.eagate.573.jp/game/reflec/ref ... 1&type=ori
http://www.konamistyle.jp/item/73781

good luck!
if you can find official source for romanization then i will change it and feel free to take mp3/bg

thanks for having a look!
AchsanLovers
yey thank you for let me use your mp3 and bg!

but can you tell me where's source for that bg?
also that my star! *shoot
Saturnalize
I'm lazy
oh god too much diff


offset -15, apply to all stuffs you have
ALL MOD BELOW ARE BEFORE OFFSET CHANGE

kiai can be extended to 01:27:257 - , add gap to add another kiai fountain.

Also, y'all diff so scared on spamming finish properly and like to change hitsound pattern every now and then. That's BAD.

easy
  1. Golden Rule : Never go NC above 6. You seem to let these number go off like crazy. Example : 01:04:122 (6,7,8,9,10) -
  2. Be consistent with your hitsound pattern. For example, 00:20:927 (1) - 's end has finish while most of the rest at the same song pattern has clap. (00:27:533 (1) - 's end. Here's a file of my hitsounding ( easy diff tho >> https://saturnalize.s-ul.eu/M72RPrxy ) but you don't really have to shove it if you personally chill with the current hitsounding.
  3. 00:27:533 (1) - tail doesn't even has finish on the song. Go clap. Along with 00:29:184 (2) -
  4. 00:36:615 (3,4) - too much whistle, especially the whistle brings the string notes out so whistle at (4) ruins the whole intention. Remove it (only at (4)).
  5. 00:41:569 (2) - head clap
  6. 00:44:046 (5) - change clap to finish
  7. 01:00:835 (1) - remove clap
  8. 01:00:835 - From this part, just spam clap every first white and second red.
  9. 01:02:211 (3,4,5) - I personally doesn't like how it looks. Good thing that 01:00:835 (1) - is actually can be placed more further to anticipate the fix. I propose fix like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7963016 (I only move (1,2,3))
  10. 01:04:138 (6) - NC
  11. 01:10:744 (5) - NC
  12. 01:17:349 (5) - NC . Also, I find the shape is not really appealing? Just go with curve. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7963057
normal
  1. read hitsound part on easy. However, do note since you have more notes, you have to be more generous on that whistle ?
  2. 00:46:523 (6) - add repeat once
  3. Other than the urge to say "this diff is too compact", it's fine.
hard
  1. Hitsound, you should get the idea now.
  2. Are you serious? SV from 1.5 to 2.4 ? Also I never recommend multiplier 0.5x for diff that is not Insane / Extra. Rather, I use 0.75x / 0.8x, but you do you
  3. 00:11:569 (4) - move this a little bit because it doesn't blanket nicely
  4. 00:26:982 (5) - This goes veeeeeery awkward. Just go with simple shape, this also goes quite nice (circle-ish) >> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8151560
  5. 00:27:533 (1,2) - I don't see a reason to manually stack this while the other similar note goes stacked perfectly [00:20:927 (1,2) - ,00:24:230 (1,2) - ,etc]
  6. 00:42:120 (5,5) - not stacked
  7. 00:44:046 (1,3,5) - these ends doesn't look stacked, along with 00:43:496 (6) - as the base.
  8. 01:26:431 (1) - Rather than making the head and tail overlapping, create a larger circle. Looks tidier.
light insane
  1. Hitsound
  2. 00:13:496 (5) - Since this plays a new part, NC
  3. 00:57:120 (7,1) - I'd rather stack this since 00:55:881 (2,3,4,5) - are stacked to one another
  4. 01:15:422 (6,1) - These don't blanket nicely
insane
  1. Hitsound
  2. 01:21:201 (5,6) - I'd rather ctrl+g this so it give that 'loop' flow
tsu's extra
  1. Hitsound
  2. 01:07:165 (2,1) - I personally like these notes to be stacked because it somewhat emphasizes the gap between the snare spam and finish, but you do you
  3. 01:21:752 (4) - Isn't 69ms delay with 4.5x distance too much?
extra
  1. Hitsound
  2. 01:26:432 (1) - I expect this to be positioned waaaaaaaaay farther than this one
ambient's extra
  1. Hitsound
  2. It's funny that this diff is easier than kwk's extra, considering the SR
  3. 00:11:569 (5) - That tiny overlap :-)
  4. 00:19:276 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Go with 1/8 you weakling
  5. 01:11:568 (6,8) - for the sake of aesthetic, this can be moved so 01:11:568 (6,7,8) - looks symmetric in placement
modding a lot of diff is truly traumatizing
Topic Starter
kwk

AchsanLovers wrote:

yey thank you for let me use your mp3 and bg!

but can you tell me where's source for that bg?
also that my star! *shoot
sorry lost the source, try reverse image search, thanks for the star!

@Saturnalize i'll try reply at the end of the week after im done with anzt lose both tiebreakers feelsbadman

Saturnalize wrote:

I'm lazy
oh god too much diff :arrow: yeah somehow there were just more and more diffs..


offset -15, apply to all stuffs you have
ALL MOD BELOW ARE BEFORE OFFSET CHANGE
:arrow: it sounds right to me, can you maybe redl? mp3 was changed a while back

kiai can be extended to 01:27:257 - , add gap to add another kiai fountain.

Also, y'all diff so scared on spamming finish properly and like to change hitsound pattern every now and then. That's BAD.

easy
  1. Golden Rule : Never go NC above 6. You seem to let these number go off like crazy. Example : 01:04:122 (6,7,8,9,10) - :arrow: righto
  2. Be consistent with your hitsound pattern. For example, 00:20:927 (1) - 's end has finish while most of the rest at the same song pattern has clap. (00:27:533 (1) - 's end. Here's a file of my hitsounding ( easy diff tho >> https://saturnalize.s-ul.eu/M72RPrxy ) but you don't really have to shove it if you personally chill with the current hitsounding. :arrow: yeah ur hitsounding is better xd i'll try to work it onto higher diffs thanks!
  3. 00:27:533 (1) - tail doesn't even has finish on the song. Go clap. Along with 00:29:184 (2) -
  4. 00:36:615 (3,4) - too much whistle, especially the whistle brings the string notes out so whistle at (4) ruins the whole intention. Remove it (only at (4)).
  5. 00:41:569 (2) - head clap
  6. 00:44:046 (5) - change clap to finish
  7. 01:00:835 (1) - remove clap
  8. 01:00:835 - From this part, just spam clap every first white and second red.
  9. 01:02:211 (3,4,5) - I personally doesn't like how it looks. Good thing that 01:00:835 (1) - is actually can be placed more further to anticipate the fix. I propose fix like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7963016 (I only move (1,2,3)) :arrow: sure
  10. 01:04:138 (6) - NC
  11. 01:10:744 (5) - NC
  12. 01:17:349 (5) - NC . Also, I find the shape is not really appealing? Just go with curve. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7963057
:arrow: basically just used ur file here lol..

normal
  1. read hitsound part on easy. However, do note since you have more notes, you have to be more generous on that whistle ? :arrow: ye i'll try
  2. 00:46:523 (6) - add repeat once :arrow: sure though im a bit worried that it might be not enough time before spinner
  3. Other than the urge to say "this diff is too compact", it's fine.
hard
  1. Hitsound, you should get the idea now.
  2. Are you serious? SV from 1.5 to 2.4 ? Also I never recommend multiplier 0.5x for diff that is not Insane / Extra. Rather, I use 0.75x / 0.8x, but you do you :arrow: not sure what happened here myself lol, i think there was suppose to be a diff between normal and this but it never happened.
    i remapped it at 2.0x now hopefully its a bit better
  3. 00:11:569 (4) - move this a little bit because it doesn't blanket nicely :arrow: should be fixed with remapping sv
  4. 00:26:982 (5) - This goes veeeeeery awkward. Just go with simple shape, this also goes quite nice (circle-ish) >> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8151560 :arrow: sure
  5. 00:27:533 (1,2) - I don't see a reason to manually stack this while the other similar note goes stacked perfectly [00:20:927 (1,2) - ,00:24:230 (1,2) - ,etc]
  6. 00:42:120 (5,5) - not stacked :arrow: ya
  7. 00:44:046 (1,3,5) - these ends doesn't look stacked, along with 00:43:496 (6) - as the base. :arrow: should be fixed now
  8. 01:26:431 (1) - Rather than making the head and tail overlapping, create a larger circle. Looks tidier. :arrow: sure
light insane
  1. Hitsound
  2. 00:13:496 (5) - Since this plays a new part, NC :arrow: ya
  3. 00:57:120 (7,1) - I'd rather stack this since 00:55:881 (2,3,4,5) - are stacked to one another :arrow: not stacked to emphasise chord is better i think
  4. 01:15:422 (6,1) - These don't blanket nicely :arrow: i adjusted it slightly but it seems ok to me..
insane
  1. Hitsound
  2. 01:21:201 (5,6) - I'd rather ctrl+g this so it give that 'loop' flow :arrow: sure
extra
  1. Hitsound
  2. 01:26:432 (1) - I expect this to be positioned waaaaaaaaay farther than this one :arrow: i moved it a bit further but im not sure how far u mean by waaaaaaaaay further lol


modding a lot of diff is truly traumatizing :arrow: sorry xd :arrow: i'll fix up the hitsounding for not easy diffs later
thanks for the mod saturnalize!
Ambient

Saturnalize wrote:

ambient's extra
  1. Hitsound
  2. It's funny that this diff is easier than kwk's extra, considering the SR - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ SR barely means anything in terms of difficulty ;)
  3. 00:11:569 (5) - That tiny overlap :-) - Fixed uwu
  4. 00:19:276 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Go with 1/8 you weakling - I could but the sound ends with 1/4 sliders so no point really:((
  5. 01:11:568 (6,8) - for the sake of aesthetic, this can be moved so 01:11:568 (6,7,8) - looks symmetric in placement - O whoops, fixed!
Thanks for the mod! And sorry for the late reply :?
Updateee
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 60010
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 2.8
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.7

[Metadata]
Title:Yuuki no Pendant
TitleUnicode:勇気のペンダント
Artist:Qrispy Joybox feat.Chata
ArtistUnicode:Qrispy Joybox feat.茶太
Creator:kwk
Version:Ambient's Lost Pendant of a Tragic Love Song
Source:REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア
Tags:Ambient Tsumia
BeatmapID:1236968
BeatmapSetID:584010

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4.3
OverallDifficulty:8.5
ApproachRate:9.4
SliderMultiplier:2.8
SliderTickRate:1

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Tsumia

Sakurauchi Riko wrote:

tsumia extra:
00:48:726 (6) - same thing i mentioned in the other extra: it doesnt represent the music very well if you treat this sound like tthe others around there because it has this other strong sound on it. same for 00:49:000 (1) - in this pattern, but this is NC so you >could< leave that but yea... yes-- made some small change for now since not sure of good way to fix that
00:58:083 (4,1) - weird that this 1/2 has same visual spacing like the 1/4 jumps after, could be very likely missleading (expecially because its stacked with jump pattern so its part of it) I think it is fine maybe
01:07:165 (2,1) - same here, but i guess since you build a concept out of it you can leave that, but then again its confusing because you dont do that for 01:10:468 (9,1) - which is exactly same :/ idk
01:06:890 (1,2) - bad flow, awkward to hit since slider tends in very diff direction than the next object is, id not consider this as kickslider or anything, the player will follow the slider shape changed


Saturnalize wrote:

tsu's extra
  1. Hitsound
  2. 01:07:165 (2,1) - I personally like these notes to be stacked because it somewhat emphasizes the gap between the snare spam and finish, but you do you
  3. 01:21:752 (4) - Isn't 69ms delay with 4.5x distance too much? I know what you mean. but for now I think it is ok :x
Thanks for mods, and sorry for late reply ;;
Parachute
Hey. So heres my part from the m4m :3

General
Any reason to have hard and light insane on such high ar values? ^^


Normal
00:20:927 - 00:40:744 - Dont get the rhythm choice in that part at all.
the breaks seem kinda random, sometimes it seems like you mapped the vocals but then you skipped vocals. You didnt map the drums either. I suggest making something thats either consistent (map vocal and dont skip them) (map drums and then map drums and not 50% drums 50% vocals) its not the best thing for beginners.
Overall you have many skipped beats which are really weird imo and it makes a weird rhythm choice in this diff.



Hard
00:11:019 (3,4) - Blanket.
00:11:569 (4) - Nc?
01:14:046 (1,4) - These should have much higher spacing. 01:15:697 (6,7,8) - Here you used different spacing too.
I dont understand this part. The high singing parts should be jumps and not just super low spacing into jumps for non-intense parts of the song.
The next part of the song is nearly the same and there you did it like that too so it makes it some weird spacing inconsistency ^^



Light Insane
00:03:725 (1,2,3,4) - The part where the music is the highest has the lowest spacing and then it gets higher. Dont get this tbh ^^
00:22:854 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make good blanket.
00:29:184 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Looks weird. make something that has a good blanket in the end or just put the 6 somewhere else
00:31:110 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:34:413 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:42:670 (2,3,4,5,6) - Some of the streams look weirdly shaped, this one is really linear at the beginning and gets really round later which makes it look really weird.
Making a slider and then converting it will make it look much cleaner https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8221503 or just polishing the pattern manually but you should really do something about that.
01:15:422 (6,1,2,3,4) - Blanket.



Ambient's Hyper
00:21:477 (3) - Id like it better if it was parallel instead of ctrl+j'ing this one but oh well..
Some patterns of you have really weird flow in this diff though. 01:00:835 (1,2,3,4) - This being one example. 01:09:091 (1,2,3,4,5) - This. etc. Idk i just dont think some things in this diff have a good playability flow-wise :/



Insane
00:17:211 (4,5,6,7,8) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8221159 it would make more sense to have a new circle pattern after ever 4 beats instead of making the flowchange on 4 already
00:21:202 (2,3,4,5,6) - This could be polished https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8221187 Right now it doesnt look really round and just weird ^^ You could also use a circle to make a blanket around it and make it look much better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8221228
00:36:065 (1,2,3,4,1) - Make good blanket
00:48:175 (4) - Stack correctly
01:01:110 (2,3) - Dont think these stacks here fit the music
01:02:761 (9,10,11) - ^
01:22:853 (4,5) - ^
01:17:073 (1) - Making such a small slider round looks weird imo.
01:24:229 (2,3,4,5) - Blanket.



Tsumia's Extra
About this i dont really have anything to say, maybe add some normal sampleset right before the kiai (look at mod for extra diff). But thats all :3



Extra
00:28:358 (5) - every part of the music that was like this before this object was emphasized with higher spacing so why use low spacing here? its also a drum and violin sound here so id increase it a bit.
00:32:487 (1) - Stack correctly
00:58:358 (2,3,4,5,6) - I honestly think this is too easy for how strong the music is in this part
01:23:955 (1,2,3,4,5) - This should be a nicely shaped star ^^
01:25:881 (5) - Stack it correctly

00:06:890 (3) - nc maybe?
00:11:569 (5) - ^
00:15:147 (1) - Either remove this nc or make nc on the pattern right before this one because right now it seems kinda random to skip it at 1 place and the next place where the music is the same you do nc? :c
00:23:404 (4) - Nc like the pattern before.
etc etc. Your nc has some inconsistencies i think you should look a bit more after that ^^
00:47:349 - Here until kiai its really good with ncs
01:04:963 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I dont get these ncs? What makes this different than 01:04:137 (1,2,3,4,5) - other than that you put whistles on the 01:04:963 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ones. That doesnt justify just putting 3 ncs and only 1 on the other pattern.
01:11:844 (1) - Id remove this nc
01:25:606 (4) - Nc here

00:48:725 (3) - 00:50:377 (3) - 00:52:028 (2) - (and the next parts like that) use normal sampleset for them
Also 00:58:358 (2,4,6) - On these 3 i would do sampleset normal, addition soft. (These normal sampleset stuff for other diffs too)



Ambient's Extra
00:04:138 (6) - Id rather have this note emphasized instead of making a higher spacing to the next one which is way quiter
01:01:935 (2,3,4,5) - Could be made parallel so it looks cleaner
01:19:000 (1) - Stack under the 1 before that one. It will also remove the slight overlap with the stream



Nice song :3 some diffs still need a bit of work imo. Some diffs are really good already. Gl with the map ^^
Ambient

Parachute wrote:

General
Any reason to have hard and light insane on such high ar values? ^^ - Ahh that's probs my bad whoops, upped the AR on Hyper to 8.5


Ambient's Hyper
00:21:477 (3) - Id like it better if it was parallel instead of ctrl+j'ing this one but oh well.. - Oh fair enough, it was parallel in another pattern afterwards, good catch.
Some patterns of you have really weird flow in this diff though. 01:00:835 (1,2,3,4) - This being one example. 01:09:091 (1,2,3,4,5) - This. etc. Idk i just dont think some things in this diff have a good playability flow-wise :/ - Yeah i can agree that its pretty messy, tried some stuff out.


Ambient's Extra
00:04:138 (6) - Id rather have this note emphasized instead of making a higher spacing to the next one which is way quiter - Good point,
Fixed!

01:01:935 (2,3,4,5) - Could be made parallel so it looks cleaner - Fixed!
01:19:000 (1) - Stack under the 1 before that one. It will also remove the slight overlap with the stream - Whoops, Fixed!
Thanks for the mod Parachute! :)

Hyper
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Topic Starter
kwk

Parachute wrote:

Hey. So heres my part from the m4m :3

General
Any reason to have hard and light insane on such high ar values? ^^ :arrow: is ar7 high? i could lower it i guess , but i think 8.5 on light insane is good otherwise it gets very crowded


Normal
00:20:927 - 00:40:744 - Dont get the rhythm choice in that part at all.
the breaks seem kinda random, sometimes it seems like you mapped the vocals but then you skipped vocals. You didnt map the drums either. I suggest making something thats either consistent (map vocal and dont skip them) (map drums and then map drums and not 50% drums 50% vocals) its not the best thing for beginners.
Overall you have many skipped beats which are really weird imo and it makes a weird rhythm choice in this diff.
:arrow: well i'll assume ur second sentence is still talking about that section, the rhythm choice here is following the piano, with filler rhythm in between. If this isnt immediately obvious when going over it again, i'll consider revising it again but not in the mood to just change it because its potentially confusing for new players. If there is inconsistencies in this rhythm then point them out and i'll change it


Hard
00:11:019 (3,4) - Blanket. :arrow: k
00:11:569 (4) - Nc? :arrow: ya
01:14:046 (1,4) - These should have much higher spacing. 01:15:697 (6,7,8) - Here you used different spacing too. :arrow: fixed
I dont understand this part. The high singing parts should be jumps and not just super low spacing into jumps for non-intense parts of the song.
The next part of the song is nearly the same and there you did it like that too so it makes it some weird spacing inconsistency ^^ :arrow: yeah this was speed remapped at a lower sv xd tried to make it a bit better now with some patterning changes



Light Insane
00:03:725 (1,2,3,4) - The part where the music is the highest has the lowest spacing and then it gets higher. Dont get this tbh ^^ :arrow: increased spacing between 1 and 2 but im not sure if that is what u meant
00:22:854 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make good blanket.
00:29:184 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Looks weird. make something that has a good blanket in the end or just put the 6 somewhere else :arrow: i think its fine, maybe i could blanket 6 and 1 but i dont think its an issue
00:31:110 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:34:413 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:42:670 (2,3,4,5,6) - Some of the streams look weirdly shaped, this one is really linear at the beginning and gets really round later which makes it look really weird.
Making a slider and then converting it will make it look much cleaner https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8221503 or just polishing the pattern manually but you should really do something about that. :arrow: they seem fine to me, we just have different ideas regarding our curves lol
01:15:422 (6,1,2,3,4) - Blanket. :arrow: check with stacking enabled?


Insane
00:17:211 (4,5,6,7,8) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8221159 it would make more sense to have a new circle pattern after ever 4 beats instead of making the flowchange on 4 already :arrow: i could but i think stressing the flow from 00:17:074 (3,4,5,6,7,8) is better and more intresting
00:21:202 (2,3,4,5,6) - This could be polished https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8221187 Right now it doesnt look really round and just weird ^^ You could also use a circle to make a blanket around it and make it look much better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8221228 :arrow: yeah i dont know what happened here, changed it around
00:36:065 (1,2,3,4,1) - Make good blanket :arrow: k
00:48:175 (4) - Stack correctly :arrow: i understand where your coming from and i kinda want to change it but i want to make this part a lot less difficult before we go into 01:04:137 (1) - maybe if i come up with a way to do it without stacking then i'll come back and fix this part
01:01:110 (2,3) - Dont think these stacks here fit the music
01:02:761 (9,10,11) - ^
01:22:853 (4,5) - ^
01:17:073 (1) - Making such a small slider round looks weird imo. :arrow: meh doesnt really matter
01:24:229 (2,3,4,5) - Blanket. :arrow: k



Tsumia's Extra
About this i dont really have anything to say, maybe add some normal sampleset right before the kiai (look at mod for extra diff). But thats all :3



Extra
00:28:358 (5) - every part of the music that was like this before this object was emphasized with higher spacing so why use low spacing here? its also a drum and violin sound here so id increase it a bit.
00:32:487 (1) - Stack correctly
00:58:358 (2,3,4,5,6) - I honestly think this is too easy for how strong the music is in this part :arrow: mm i'll think about it
01:23:955 (1,2,3,4,5) - This should be a nicely shaped star ^^
01:25:881 (5) - Stack it correctly

00:06:890 (3) - nc maybe?
00:11:569 (5) - ^
00:15:147 (1) - Either remove this nc or make nc on the pattern right before this one because right now it seems kinda random to skip it at 1 place and the next place where the music is the same you do nc? :c
00:23:404 (4) - Nc like the pattern before.
etc etc. Your nc has some inconsistencies i think you should look a bit more after that ^^ :arrow: yeah sure be better now
00:47:349 - Here until kiai its really good with ncs
01:04:963 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I dont get these ncs? What makes this different than 01:04:137 (1,2,3,4,5) - other than that you put whistles on the 01:04:963 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ones. That doesnt justify just putting 3 ncs and only 1 on the other pattern. :arrow: it was for readibility but i guess i could remove it
01:11:844 (1) - Id remove this nc
01:25:606 (4) - Nc here

00:48:725 (3) - 00:50:377 (3) - 00:52:028 (2) - (and the next parts like that) use normal sampleset for them
Also 00:58:358 (2,4,6) - On these 3 i would do sampleset normal, addition soft. (These normal sampleset stuff for other diffs too)
:arrow: yeah i'll look into reworking the hitsound completely




Nice song :3 some diffs still need a bit of work imo. Some diffs are really good already. Gl with the map ^^
thanks for the mod! fixed stuff i didnt reply to
Sidetail
probably mod only your diffs

[extra]
00:06:890 (1,2) - not sure why you op'd for using sliders there when you had piano keys mapped to clickables just few seconds ago 00:03:037 (1,2,3,4) -
00:45:698 (1,2,3,4) - spacing wise, that is bit confusing, other parts you followed / expressed will with distances, so please fix that.
00:55:055 (6,7,8,9) - this bothers me a bit that it's not very symmetric
01:07:166 (2) - i think it's better when it is stacked with 01:07:441 (1) - . gives off good stack emphasis since song stops there briefly
01:10:468 (4) - ^ (might need to move other objects near that for nicer ds)
01:13:496 (1,2) - these look more natural https://puu.sh/wc7Pw/7377811bd5.jpg or please do something about those straight sliders.

[insane]
00:06:890 (1,2) - same as extra
00:58:358 (1,2,3,4,5) - current seems to play just fine but shape wise it is bit weird, perhaps try 5-point star?
01:08:128 - i heard a note clearly here
01:21:201 (5,6,1) - i am not sure if this is great idea when next similar sounding part is just stack 01:22:853 (4,5,6) - (so diff wise one is very hard and ones easy for same sounding part)

[light insane]
00:03:037 (4,5,6,7) - would make this into sliders like 00:06:890 (3,4) - for light insane
00:36:890 (6,7,1) - very linear, probably more fun if there is more angle
00:41:844 (6) - this feels better if you changed to 00:43:221 (6,7) -

[hard]
delete greenpoint at 00:13:496 since that is same as previous point

[normal]
No two hitobjects on the same tick (osu!mania game mode is an exception). This includes hit circles, starts and ends of sliders, and starts and ends of spinners. Although this may be possible to accomplish while playing, it defeats the purpose of following the rhythm of the song.
unrankable:



01:17:074 (1,2) - switch nc (just strictly follow your original nc pattern is fine)

[easy]
fix those unrankable lines just like normal

haven't looked further into normal and easy but hope that's enough from me. btw nice pic ;))
Topic Starter
kwk

Sidetail wrote:

probably mod only your diffs

[extra]
00:06:890 (1,2) - not sure why you op'd for using sliders there when you had piano keys mapped to clickables just few seconds ago 00:03:037 (1,2,3,4) - :arrow: i want to emphasise the red/white tick, i could do like a split stream but i prefer to do it like this.
00:45:698 (1,2,3,4) - spacing wise, that is bit confusing, other parts you followed / expressed will with distances, so please fix that. :arrow: moved spacing around
00:55:055 (6,7,8,9) - this bothers me a bit that it's not very symmetric :arrow: you wont notice it when you play xd
01:07:166 (2) - i think it's better when it is stacked with 01:07:441 (1) - . gives off good stack emphasis since song stops there briefly :arrow: nice idea but i prefer to keep each jump pattern distanced from each other
01:10:468 (4) - ^ (might need to move other objects near that for nicer ds) :arrow: ^
01:13:496 (1,2) - these look more natural https://puu.sh/wc7Pw/7377811bd5.jpg or please do something about those straight sliders. :arrow: took ur suggestion

[insane]
00:06:890 (1,2) - same as extra :arrow: same
00:58:358 (1,2,3,4,5) - current seems to play just fine but shape wise it is bit weird, perhaps try 5-point star? :arrow:i'll keep this in mind, i'll change it when i have some ideas since i dont really want to utilise a star here
01:08:128 - i heard a note clearly here :arrow: mapped
01:21:201 (5,6,1) - i am not sure if this is great idea when next similar sounding part is just stack 01:22:853 (4,5,6) - (so diff wise one is very hard and ones easy for same sounding part) :arrow: mm good point, changed the second pattern so difficulty is about the same

[light insane]
00:03:037 (4,5,6,7) - would make this into sliders like 00:06:890 (3,4) - for light insane :arrow: maybe but i think introducing the stream earlier is better to let players catch the rhythm easier
00:36:890 (6,7,1) - very linear, probably more fun if there is more angle :arrow: i think the linear is fine
00:41:844 (6) - this feels better if you changed to 00:43:221 (6,7) - :arrow: split into sliders

[hard]
delete greenpoint at 00:13:496 since that is same as previous point :arrow: i forgot to silence 00:12:670 - should be relevant now

[normal]
No two hitobjects on the same tick (osu!mania game mode is an exception). This includes hit circles, starts and ends of sliders, and starts and ends of spinners. Although this may be possible to accomplish while playing, it defeats the purpose of following the rhythm of the song.
unrankable:



01:17:074 (1,2) - switch nc (just strictly follow your original nc pattern is fine) :arrow: ok

[easy]
fix those unrankable lines just like normal :arrow: ok

haven't looked further into normal and easy but hope that's enough from me. btw nice pic ;))
thanks for the mod sidetail! gave me some things to think about
Sidetail
mfw i copied wrong portion of ranking criteria, anyways thanks for replying to mods.
[Crz]Makii
from q
ahh..maybe the music is a little loud?at least I feel it xD
[Easy]
  1. 00:01:936 - 00:06:753 - add the break time,it will has a reminder to remind Beginners some notes will appear.
  2. 00:53:955 (1) - move to x297y51? to follow the slider as 00:56:432 (4,1) - 00:54:780 (2,3) - 00:51:477 (2,3) -
  3. Good Diff.
[Insane]
  1. 00:07:441 - break time plz lol
  2. 00:11:569 (4) - NC?cosidering SV changed.
  3. 00:15:698 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - wow..so much consecutive circles are hard to play espcially in 4.6* Insane Diff.1/4 with BPM 109 = 1/2 with BPM 218 and there are 16 circles,SOOOOOO HARD!!how to change some circles to sliders or reserve sliders?
  4. OD8 maybe too high?this style maybe hard to control ACC(players who suit this star maps click speed is not enough lol)
[Tsumia's Extra]
  1. 00:07:303 - break time
  2. 00:41:569 (3,4) - ds maybe a little small.like 00:40:881 (5,1) - looks like the same ds as 00:41:569 (3,4) -but it's 1/4 snap.
  3. 01:06:614 (7,1) - ^
  4. 01:12:669 (2,3) - hmm they can be NC as 00:43:496 (1,1) - ,yep?
  5. 01:08:266 (4,5) - ^
  6. wow,Nice Diff!
[Extra]
  1. 00:55:881 (2,3) - has big different ds with 00:56:294 (4,5) - though it's same rhythm.00:55:881 (2) - try to move it to x299y287?
  2. 01:10:193 (3) - maybe outscreen
it's a good mapset and I can shoot a star! GL to rank!
Topic Starter
kwk

[Crz]Sword wrote:

from q
ahh..maybe the music is a little loud?at least I feel it xD :arrow: is it? i dont want to edit the mp3/change audio again orz
[Easy]
  1. 00:01:936 - 00:06:753 - add the break time,it will has a reminder to remind Beginners some notes will appear. :arrow: sure, nice point
  2. 00:53:955 (1) - move to x297y51? to follow the slider as 00:56:432 (4,1) - 00:54:780 (2,3) - 00:51:477 (2,3) - :arrow: ok
  3. Good Diff.
[Insane]
  1. 00:07:441 - break time plz lol :arrow: i dont think its needed, but i added them in lower diffs for similar reason above in easy diff
  2. 00:11:569 (4) - NC?cosidering SV changed. :arrow: sure
  3. 00:15:698 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - wow..so much consecutive circles are hard to play espcially in 4.6* Insane Diff.1/4 with BPM 109 = 1/2 with BPM 218 and there are 16 circles,SOOOOOO HARD!!how to change some circles to sliders or reserve sliders? :arrow: time to start learning how to alternate xd, imo this is one of the peaks of the song so its mapped accordingly difficult.
  4. OD8 maybe too high?this style maybe hard to control ACC(players who suit this star maps click speed is not enough lol) :arrow: changed this to 7.5
[Extra]
  1. 00:55:881 (2,3) - has big different ds with 00:56:294 (4,5) - though it's same rhythm.00:55:881 (2) - try to move it to x299y287? :arrow: 00:56:294 (4,5) i inceased ds here instead since i want to keep similar movement to 00:53:955 (1,2,3,4,5) -
  2. 01:10:193 (3) - maybe outscreen :arrow: i think its onscreen when playing
it's a good mapset and I can shoot a star! GL to rank!
thanks for star and modding [Crz]Sword!
Tsumia

[Crz]Sword wrote:

[Tsumia's Extra]
  1. 00:07:303 - break time added
  2. 00:41:569 (3,4) - ds maybe a little small.like 00:40:881 (5,1) - looks like the same ds as 00:41:569 (3,4) -but it's 1/4 snap. okay- moved 00:40:881 (3) - and 00:41:569 (3) - a little to better show different ds
  3. 01:06:614 (7,1) - ^ I think its okay for now
  4. 01:12:669 (2,3) - hmm they can be NC as 00:43:496 (1,1) - ,yep? yep!
  5. 01:08:266 (4,5) - ^ ^
  6. wow,Nice Diff!
thanks for the mod!
Keada

  • Ambient's Extra

  1. 00:04:413 (7,8) - spacing between those should be higher or same spacing as 00:04:138 (6,7) - with the thought of the sound
  2. 00:16:799 (5,1,2,3) - the flow here was kinda meh.
  3. 00:36:202 (3,4) - The flow, try to flip the slider so it flows more.
  4. 00:38:266 (4) - move a bit up so it doesnt overlap 00:37:441 (1) -
  5. 00:42:945 (4,1) - blanket these
  6. 00:49:826 (4,7) - Fix blanket 00:50:514 (7,2) -
  7. 00:56:707 (6) - fix this so it doesnt overlap.
  8. 00:58:358 (1,2,3,4,1) - ctrl+d make it 5 notes and try again. perfect the star :D
  9. 01:00:010 (4) - make this a reverse and put a note here 01:00:010 (4) - fits much better to the music imo.


    Extra

  10. Make it ar 9.3 or higher, reading this high bpm with jumps with ar 9 is reeeeally hard for players.
  11. 00:05:239 (1,2) - blanket slightly off
  12. 00:11:569 (1,1) - ^
  13. 00:19:276 (1) - move slightly away so it doesnt overlap with the slider from before
  14. 00:24:505 (1,2,3,4) - spacing problems 00:25:606 (3,4,1) -
  15. 00:28:083 (3,1) - fix blanket
    Map looks nice, just inconsistent with spacing at some points.
Topic Starter
kwk

Keada wrote:


  • Extra

  1. Make it ar 9.3 or higher, reading this high bpm with jumps with ar 9 is reeeeally hard for players. :arrow: id prefer to keep it at AR9 if possible,as long as it doesnt note lock i dont really see a need to change it
  2. 00:05:239 (1,2) - blanket slightly off
  3. 00:11:569 (1,1) - ^
  4. 00:19:276 (1) - move slightly away so it doesnt overlap with the slider from before
  5. 00:24:505 (1,2,3,4) - spacing problems 00:25:606 (3,4,1) -
  6. 00:28:083 (3,1) - fix blanket
    Map looks nice, just inconsistent with spacing at some points.
fixed everything else, thanks for modding!
Ambient

Keada wrote:


  • Ambient's Extra

  1. 00:04:413 (7,8) - spacing between those should be higher or same spacing as 00:04:138 (6,7) - with the thought of the sound - truuu fixed.
  2. 00:16:799 (5,1,2,3) - the flow here was kinda meh. - meh.
  3. 00:36:202 (3,4) - The flow, try to flip the slider so it flows more. - okie
  4. 00:38:266 (4) - move a bit up so it doesnt overlap 00:37:441 (1) - - sure thang
  5. 00:42:945 (4,1) - blanket these - fixed.
  6. 00:49:826 (4,7) - Fix blanket 00:50:514 (7,2) - - fixed.
  7. 00:56:707 (6) - fix this so it doesnt overlap. with what? as in 00:56:019 (3) - ? no point really, doesnt affect much gameplay wise
  8. 00:58:358 (1,2,3,4,1) - ctrl+d make it 5 notes and try again. perfect the star :D - should be better now
  9. 01:00:010 (4) - make this a reverse and put a note here 01:00:010 (4) - fits much better to the music imo. - sure why not

thanks for the mod Keada!
Update
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Title:Yuuki no Pendant
TitleUnicode:勇気のペンダント
Artist:Qrispy Joybox feat.Chata
ArtistUnicode:Qrispy Joybox feat.茶太
Creator:kwk
Version:Ambient's Extra
Source:REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア
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anna apple
sorry if I took a while, motivation loss op

ambient ex
00:16:936 (1,2,3) - first not sharp angle jumps
00:29:734 (3,4,5) - would make more sense if you ctrl g (placement wise) since the other times you did triangles like this you do that
00:39:092 (1,2) - I think there should be a 1/1 gap here kind of like 00:38:266 (4,5) - cuz rn its just filler
01:19:918 (2,3) - not really support for these
01:21:202 (5,6,7) - strange lowering the spacing like this imo I thought spacing would be higher or the same

ex
00:36:065 (1,2,3,4) - hm, weird cuz 1->2 -> 3 is sharp and 2-> 3-> 4 is linear but you usually stick with one or the other
00:49:138 - there is support for a note here like these 00:48:450 (1,2,3,4) -
01:06:614 (7,1) - make this bigger gap because rn slows the cursor pace a bit
01:07:166 (2) - 01:10:468 (4) - 01:23:679 (2) - this should be closer to previous note cuz rhythm gap (imo)
01:11:431 (5,6) - angle is kind of forced, you should aim to take concepts from 01:09:091 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:09:918 (1,2,3) - more imo

tsumia
some really good ideas, though I don't like how some things like 00:32:211 (6,1) - are handled. I mean they are easy to read but kind of boring to play for me lol

ins
00:51:753 (1,2) - how come you changing the idea up from 00:48:450 (1,2) - and 00:50:101 (1,2) -
01:01:110 (2,3) - don't perfect stack this lol wtf
01:04:412 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - hardest part of the map, can't really say I thought it was set up too well to due the up down while moving sideways. its a really cool idea but more opinions on this and how you introduce it can help (maybe use some sharper angles earlier on instead of just linear 1/4 stuff, like some turns or something. )

ambient hyp
00:48:450 (5,6) - lol wrong snap? also slider leniency stuff doesn't as well in lower diffs

L ins
00:25:331 (4,5,6) - 01:04:137 (8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - doesn't make sense to spacing changes like this twice lo
01:05:101 (2,3) - also this is hard

hard
00:19:276 (1,2,3) - not worth doing this cuz it looks like 1/4 which is hard to read for hard players ;w;

lower diffs are weird for this bpm, bpm should prolly be double and have 3/4 measures
Ambient

borborygmos wrote:

ambient ex
00:16:936 (1,2,3) - first not sharp angle jumps - wat?
00:29:734 (3,4,5) - would make more sense if you ctrl g (placement wise) since the other times you did triangles like this you do that - fixed
00:39:092 (1,2) - I think there should be a 1/1 gap here kind of like 00:38:266 (4,5) - cuz rn its just filler - fixed
01:19:918 (2,3) - not really support for these - tried something else
01:21:202 (5,6,7) - strange lowering the spacing like this imo I thought spacing would be higher or the same - tried another thing

ambient hyp
00:48:450 (5,6) - lol wrong snap? also slider leniency stuff doesn't as well in lower diffs - just made a repeater early on to match the rhythm afterwards

Thanks for the mod borborygmos!
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Topic Starter
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borborygmos wrote:

sorry if I took a while, motivation loss op :arrow: thats ok, a mod is better than no mod

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00:36:065 (1,2,3,4) - hm, weird cuz 1->2 -> 3 is sharp and 2-> 3-> 4 is linear but you usually stick with one or the other :arrow: not sure if im misunderstanding ur comment but i dont see a need to change it
00:49:138 - there is support for a note here like these 00:48:450 (1,2,3,4) - :arrow: its pretty faint, much rather just keep this rhythm
pattern tho

01:06:614 (7,1) - make this bigger gap because rn slows the cursor pace a bit :arrow: i already think its big enough
01:07:166 (2) - 01:10:468 (4) - 01:23:679 (2) - this should be closer to previous note cuz rhythm gap (imo) :arrow: yeah but i want the sudden movement at the end
01:11:431 (5,6) - angle is kind of forced, you should aim to take concepts from 01:09:091 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:09:918 (1,2,3) - more imo :arrow: but its just circular flow here?

ins
00:51:753 (1,2) - how come you changing the idea up from 00:48:450 (1,2) - and 00:50:101 (1,2) - :arrow: i dont see a reason to stick to the patterning, since its transitioning into the next section
01:01:110 (2,3) - don't perfect stack this lol wtf :arrow: yeah i meant to change it but forgot
01:04:412 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - hardest part of the map, can't really say I thought it was set up too well to due the up down while moving sideways. its a really cool idea but more opinions on this and how you introduce it can help (maybe use some sharper angles earlier on instead of just linear 1/4 stuff, like some turns or something. ) :arrow: remapped it, it made sense before but not anymore


L ins
00:25:331 (4,5,6) - 01:04:137 (8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - doesn't make sense to spacing changes like this twice lo :arrow: changed rhythm in the first one, think its fine in the second since slider leniency
01:05:101 (2,3) - also this is hard :arrow: i know, dont see a reason to change it tho

hard
00:19:276 (1,2,3) - not worth doing this cuz it looks like 1/4 which is hard to read for hard players ;w; :arrow: sure

lower diffs are weird for this bpm, bpm should prolly be double and have 3/4 measures :arrow: i'll get it checked, i just went off remywiki and i assumed it had bpm written in the actual game but upon research i dont think it is..
thanks for the mod!
Mombei
Hi, from my modding queue :)

You queued for an X diffs NM

[Extra]
  1. 00:06:890 (1,2) - The fourth sound has more weight that the other three, I advise you give it a click, perhaps by using a rhythm structure like this
  2. 00:16:248 (1,2,1,2) - This overlap looks kinda bad, you could try rearranging the second half of that pattern so that it locks with the first in a geometric shape of sorts, but I'm not exactly sure how I'd do it
  3. 00:22:028 (2) - Make it revert just once so it's not aids desu~
  4. 00:23:679 (2,3) - 00:25:331 (2,3) - etc. same
  5. 00:34:413 (2,3,4,5) - All of these look hand-drawn. DS is all over the place - you should make these from sliders
  6. 00:36:890 (2,3) - Extend these, they have no reason to be 1/8, if you're going to use filler it should be 1/4 (for 4/4 time signatures)
  7. 00:41:294 (4,2) - Jee, bring Stack leniency down
  8. 00:43:496 (1,2) - These work just as fine 1/4
  9. 00:44:046 (1,2,3) - You could rearrange these to have 2 blanket 1 and have 3 make a triangle with 1 and 2
  10. 00:44:872 (1,2,3) - Of course, same
  11. 00:46:110 (3,4,5) - 4 has a higher DS multiplier than 5 even though 5 has the stronger sound
  12. 00:53:129 (1,2,3) - Buzzers really should have a 1/4 window inbetween them
It's definitely a well-structured map, is seems rhythm and spacing are mostly correct. There are times when spacing emphasis is off but there are sections where you get it right, so I think you're just overlooking those. Be more careful when placing objects! :P

[Ambient's Extra]
  1. 00:19:551 (2,1) - 00:20:101 (2,1) - These gaps fail to express this calm bit. The concept of dividing into groups of 2 sliders is neat, but the distance between groups should be at least be made progressively bigger instead of just throwing that kind of jumps in there
  2. Here 1/4 repeat sliders are actually fine. They mostly play into sliders or single hitcircles, and the flow actually takes into account the fact that they're buzz sliders.
  3. 00:28:358 (4) - This circle could use a bit more spacing for emphasis
  4. 00:29:184 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm pretty sure the song doesn't change like that here. Maybe overlooked?
  5. 00:41:569 (1) - Missing hitclap
  6. 00:48:175 (4,5) - Yeah, here's not fine. Add the 1/4 gap
  7. 01:04:138 (1,2) - This is spaced this far apart but 01:04:826 (6,1) - is barely emphasized? You may want to rethink object arrangement for this bit.
Of course what I've said about the other diff also applies, for the most part.

[Tsumia's Extra]
  1. 00:03:794 (5,6) - You may want to map this sound to its full extent, if you're worried about intensity then use a kickslider for 2 of the triple's beats.
  2. 00:17:074 (3,4) - 3 as a slider feels out of place. In which way its sliderhead is more important than its slidertail? And then, why do the sliders only start here? 4 makes sense because of the hitsound, but then all of the previous circles with that sound should be sliders aswell. Be consistent.
  3. 00:23:679 (5,6) - Holy moly you had it already? I'm sort of proud, actually
  4. 00:27:257 (3) - 3's slidertail should be its own hitcircle
  5. 00:36:340 (3) - This arrangement make the most important sound in the bar end up on a slidertail. Perhaps it would be best to remove the reverse and make 3's slidertail its own hitcircle
  6. 00:40:468 (2) - etc. same
  7. 00:41:569 (3) - missing hitclap
  8. 00:43:496 (1,1) - Don't spam NC. Also, filler should be 1/4
  9. 00:46:248 (3) - Again, most important sound on the reverse. Why not make 3 a simple 1/2 slider like all sliders after a 1/1 slider in this section and give the most important sound an hitcircle of its own?
  10. 01:08:266 (1,1) - 01:12:394 (1,1,1) - etc. Same as before
  11. 01:21:477 (3,4) - This part is no different from the previous refrain, why is 3 held this time? Either make both held sliders or make this 3 a normal 1/4
  12. 01:26:431 (4) - This shape feels out of place for a sound that barely has any hard-hitting points. The arpeggio would be a better fit for a more curvy and gentle shape.


All I could do was offer basic suggestions for aesthetic, I hope the contents of this mod were not a disappointment.

Thanks for using my queue! :)
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