1. Advanced - 4Key (2.58 stars, 1211 notes)
2. Deceiver - 4Key (5.19 stars, 2758 notes)
3. Expert - 4Key (4.18 stars, 2307 notes)
4. Hyper - 4Key (2.95 stars, 1479 notes)
5. Insane - 4Key (3.65 stars, 1827 notes)
6. Lunatic - 4Key (4.67 stars, 2564 notes)
7. Normal - 4Key (1.94 stars, 864 notes)

[B A D] wrote:

Hi Hi Hi Hi
Osu definitely needs more Foreground Eclipse song
Let's go
0|1|2|3

EZ

00:46:708 (46708|0,46708|1) - This should be a single, remove 1 Denied, it's same as 00:46:329 (46329|3,46329|2) -
00:49:556 (49556|1,49746|2) - Since you started 00:48:037 (48037|1,48227|2) from left, this should be started from right Accepted
00:47:468 (47468|0) - This should be a double
00:48:987 (48987|3) - ^
00:50:506 (50506|3) - ^
00:52:025 (52025|0) - ^
The same "should be double here" until 00:57:721 won't be mentioned Accepted ^
00:59:620 (59620|1,60000|1) - This is hard for noobs, change 00:59:620 (59620|1) to 0 Accepted
01:02:658 (62658|0,63037|0) - ^, change 01:02:658(62558|0) to 2 Accepted
01:05:696 (65696|3,66075|3) - ^, change the 2nd LN to 1 Accepted
01:37:974 (97974|2) - Double this Denied, hitting a double after only 1/2 beat is not too noob-friendly IMO.
01:39:493 (99493|0) - ^ ^
01:44:430 (104430|1) - ^ ^
01:45:189 (105189|0) - ^ Accepted
And again, I won't mention "Change this into a double" until 01:53:924
The rest could be applied from mod bfore. (I'm just too lazy )

Pretty solid map, really like the song, GL for ranking

Abraxos wrote:

general

同人エモ/スクリーモ・バンドサークル to tags, the genre
Stories That Last Through The Sleepless Nights move to tags, album != source til
少女さとり ～ 3rd eye 東方地霊殿 to tags, the description of the song

if youre unsure look at http://www.fg-eclipse.net/works/stories.html their official website

when hitsound aaaaaa

diff gap between SC and deciever is somewhat lol I agree!

deceiver

1) balance
01:18:987 - see what columns the 3 note jack 01:19:272 (79272|2,79367|2,79462|2) - falls on by playing the chorus through
it should be columns
3
2
3
4
3
3
3
and cut to a mini bridge
im not sure if you seeing this but a big portion of the jacks fell on the right hand (specifically column 3), and im not sure if you want to keep such unbalanced patterning Thanks for pointing this out, will change

2) the patterning itself
i feel like the chorus is not only somewhat underwhelming, it too can potentially throw people off because of how its laid out (jumpjacks w/ slow jumptrills w/ triple jacks) same
i dont know if you want to keep the quads but id rather you try to lessen their usage here because id want to jack on every single beat of the chorus section too, not just do some weird jumptrill thing i think i'll keep the quads (personal preference)

just a suggestion to give you an idea of what you can do

01:18:987 - started off with a [1234][12] because its an easier transition nay, im gonna start with a triple instead so that it's not quads which are used primarily for the snares
01:19:272 - to 01:19:651 - jacked every single jump here, shouldnt be too hard to follow yep
01:19:651 (79651|0,79651|2,79746|3,79746|1,79841|0,79841|2) - didnt jack these for a sort of a rest spot for the player, also gives emphasis to the crash at 01:19:746 - Before you mentioned the chorus is underwhelming (by that I think you mean it's too easy compared to the rest of the map?) so I think putting rest spots will contradict that statement
01:19:746 - continued jacking on every beat, etc. etc. yep

pattern should be obvious to you here, if you need any help with elaboration feel free to pm yep I think I've got it, im gonna try my bestest to make the chorus not underwhelming

for the other parts:
00:46:329 - i personally think bursts like these are pretty disgusting, im not sure what it is but it feels like the spike is wayyyy too much for me, id personally wouldve gone for a wristjack with jumps rather than with hands even though the section uses snares Yeah I'm not too sure what to do here as well, so for the time being I've just removed the quads

00:35:601 (35601|3,35601|2,35696|2,35696|0,35696|3,35696|1) - 00:35:411 (35411|3,35411|1,35506|0,35506|1) - jacks like these are less strenouous on the hand
00:36:170 (36170|0,36170|2,36265|0,36265|3) - 00:37:120 (37120|0,37120|3,37215|2,37215|0,37215|3,37215|1) - jacks like these are more strenouous on the hand
im not sure if you see the distinction between the two (one ends with the user pressing a [12] or a [34] and one doesnt) but i believe distinguishing between how the two sets of notes play out is important - because it decides how balanced (or unbalanced) your chart is
i think you should be able to adjust the chart yourself ye Hmm I'm not quite sure what you mean here, so I'll PM you about it (hopefully i remember lol)

00:58:291 (58291|3,58291|2,58291|1,58291|0,58386|2,58481|2,58481|3,58481|1,58481|0) -02:19:367 (139367|2,139367|1,139367|3,139367|0,139462|2,139462|3,139556|2,139556|1,139556|3,139556|0) - please dont do things like this, the transition is sloppy and throws people off - especially at such a high bpm i've changed these slightly, dunno if they're any better tho (will PM)

i know youre trying to do the jack on 00:35:886 - 00:35:981 - 00:36:170 - 00:36:265 - the guitar beats but you do know that the effect is lost on me because
1) 00:36:075 (36075|1,36075|2,36075|3) - triple masks the fact that youre jacking those beats as it sits right in the middle of the set causing 2 more jacks to be made
2) the section is just a cluster of notes so i cant see what anyones trying to do aside from the occansional 00:35:696 (35696|0,35791|0,35886|0,35981|0) - 4 note jack
i dont really know how youd like to go about adjusting, but id recommend somewhat nerfing the chart a little because 00:44:620 (44620|3,44715|2,44810|3,44810|2,44905|3,45000|3,45000|2,45094|3,45189|2,45284|3,45284|2,45379|3) - there are things like this coming up that (i feel) strains the hand way too much Yeah I think I'm going to remove the 2-note jacks for the guitar beats you mentioned because they're not there during 00:22:784 - but I will keep the 4 note jacks because at least during those you can tell it's the guitar bits plus (this is my personal opinion) I think it's good to give the players a challenge

00:22:341 (22341|3,22405|3) - 02:47:784 (167784|3,167784|2,167848|3,167848|2) - i dont know how i feel about a 1/6 jack Personally I think they're fine because they're only 2 note jacks, and there aren't any sections before or after which causes a lot of strain making it hard to hit

ending looks so confusing to me
02:38:829 - 02:38:924 - 02:39:018 - 02:38:639 - im pretty sure there are snares on all of these beats, which means youd have to triple everything - but do you really want to do that there's no snare on the last three??
02:41:392 (161392|2,161392|1) - snare, so no triple? again im not hearing a snare (although this section is a clusterfuck, i'll admit that)
i think you should find a suitable system which accommodates for the tripling of snares, and how they seem to keep falling on 1/4s - maybe something like
[box=this from 02:39:683 -] im not a big fan of overdoing things, but it is somewhat possible that 02:39:778 - 02:39:968 - 02:40:158 - can be doubled - be aware of hand balance though yea i cant really tell what's going on in the ending, so i'll probably redo it once i've found a good workaround for it, thanks for the suggestion tho

yeah thats all, i dont really have much to say about the layering - its more of the issue with patterning here

other diffs

sc

same deal here
01:21:550 (81550|2,81645|2,81645|3,81740|3) - 01:22:310 (82310|3,82405|2,82405|3,82500|2) - chorus is still somewhat unbalanced, dont think i have to explain myself here
i think the slow jumptrill thing kinda works here? i still wouldnt do such a thing but its fine over here because the layering is tamer did the jumptrill thingy

nothing much to say, beginning to think that you shouldve cut the song because its pretty repetitive according to aimod its already a tv size kek

mx

02:38:829 (158829|0,158924|0,158924|1,159018|2,159113|2,159113|0) - i dont get what these jacks are supposed to be following
id rather you keep them consistent with either
1) the higher diffs and how they strucutre things
2) a new set of rules e.g. jack after every white tick etc. fixed

seems alright other than that, anchors are irrelevant with such a bpm

hd

00:37:215 (37215|2,37215|3,37310|1,37310|0,37405|2,37405|3,37500|0,37500|1,37594|2,37594|3) - this is very misleading
there are guitar beats 00:37:689 - 00:37:784 - 00:37:879 - here too at the same intensity as the beats in the jumptrill, yet they arent represented as such idk how to explain it but those arent guitar beats, look at the screenshot you put in the suggestion box and you can see that the only guitar beat is on 00:37:594 - which is represented by the LN on the harder diffs

suggestion

the anchors in column 2 and 4 are intentional, theyre there to emphasize on the guitar
ignore the ghost column on the right

applies to all sections, think you should be able to come up with the other patterns

02:22:405 (142405|3,142405|2,142500|1,142689|2,142689|0,142784|3) - im not sure about you but this isnt very consistent with 02:25:443 (145443|0,145443|2,145537|3,145727|3,145727|2,145822|0,145822|1) -
02:22:689 (142689|0,142689|2,142784|3) - also, why is the higher emphasis on 02:22:689 - but not 02:22:784 - even though 02:22:784 - has a more pronounced beat than 02:22:689 - ? nice find, fixed

ending jumps are probably in the wrong place, check what i said about the snares back in deceiver fixed, i'll work on the deceiver ending soon
02:44:715 (164715|0,164715|1) - single note fixed

dont think the other diffs deserve looking through, they mainly are pretty clear cut so it shouldnt be too hard to transfer whatever i said over
mainly focused on the patterning of deceiver itself, since parts of it do worry me a little
that said i guess the song is alright

good luck with rank, pm me (preferably a day after this mod is posted) if you need clarification

Crono wrote:

Oi Worms why the hell didn't you tell me your mapping!?

have my kudos ya twat

Edit: ask puxtu for hitsound suggestions.

Abraxo said:

im not sure if you see the distinction between the two (one ends with the user pressing a [12] or a [34] and one doesnt) but i believe distinguishing between how the two sets of notes play out is important - because it decides how balanced (or unbalanced) your chart is
i think you should be able to adjust the chart yourself ye

short version, [12] or [34] require 1 hand to jack for either side. [13] and [24] require both hands to jack and thus makes it difficult to transition to the following pattern.

Mai9392 wrote:

Hi Worms~
Your mod request at #Modreq
And dont forget to put hitsound if you want to rank this map. aaaaa


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SC

00:19:746 (19746|0,19936|0,20126|0,20316|0,20506|0,20696|0,20886|0,21075|0,21265|0,21455|0,21645|0,21835|0) - This one is too long stacking.. so move 1 note at 00:21:455 (21455|0) - to col 2 denied, the guitar actually still plays here, although it is gaint
00:22:088 (22088|3,22151|0,22215|1,22278|2,22341|0) - For that 1/6 i think would be better if you re-arranged like that > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7851073 did something slightly different
00:23:354 (23354|2,23354|0) - Move 1 note at col 1 to col 2 denied, guitar jacks
00:24:588 (24588|3,24588|2) - Move 1 note at col 4 to col 2 denied, guitar jacks
01:35:696 (95696|3,95696|0) - Add 1 more notes? denied, it's just the same stuff as for e.g. 01:32:658 (92658|3,92658|0) -
02:01:518 (121518|0,121518|1) - Add 1 more notes at col 4 accepted


Deceiver

00:21:455 (21455|0) - Move this one to col 2 same stuff as SC
00:51:835 (51835|1,51835|2) - Move 1 note at col 2 to col 4 guitar stuff again
00:53:354 (53354|3,53354|0) - Move 1 note at col 1 to col 2 guitar stuff again
02:25:822 (145822|3,145822|2,145822|0) - Add 1 notes for cymbal sound i think i'll have to deny this one as well because making that a quad will just make the section a cluster of notes and it won't emphasise the snare at 02:26:202 - as much
02:42:531 (162531|2,162531|3) - I think this should taken 3 notes 2 notes for kick, 3 notes for snare


Nice map! i didn't found too many problems at pattern.. just focus on your pattern consistency
Goodluck!

Tofu1222 wrote:

Hi, Mod as requested in the Canpoint Modding Queue

SC

00:11:012 (11012|0,11392|1) - 00:11:772 (11772|3) - i suggest u delete such notes which are not on the drums, and only use double on clearly heard drum sounds to 00:21:265 - Still change column for the basic beat sounds every bar accepted

00:25:443 (25443|0,25443|3,25537|1,25632|2,25727|1,25822|0,25822|2) - make all these double notes for consistency (apply to all if u accept) denied

00:28:575 (28575|2,28575|0,28670|0,28670|2,28765|0,28765|2,28860|3,28860|1,28860|2) - Here make double notes to be triple and the triple note to double for consistency, since u use triple notes for such sounds before (apply to all if u accept) denied, i made the snares 2 notes because of the jacks,
but i will accept changing the triple to double

00:59:240 (59240|2,59240|0,59240|1) - make this double note accepted

01:17:468 (77468|2,77468|3,77563|3,77563|2,77658|2,77658|3,77753|3,77753|2,77848|0,77848|1,77943|1,77943|0,78037|0,78037|1,78132|0,78132|1,78227|3,78227|2) - I suggest u make chord trills instead, in whatever column u like, since it is really tired and hard for player to get such jack, and after it there will be hard enough. Give them some rest XD ( If u prefer also consider the jack u use before, to see whether it is so tired and make some changes) i think i'll still keep it as jacks, but instead of 4 notes i'll do 2 note jacks

01:18:987 - Hmm, i don't think this part is rankable? If u want it to be more playable try to get rid of that jack maybe (just my opinion u can deny it hah) i reckon its fine lol

01:31:139 - Here it is necessary to give players a rest, exclude some of those single notes to make this part a bit easier to have a rest they get a rest at 01:43:291 -

02:06:075 (126075|3,126075|2,126170|3,126170|2,126265|2,126265|3,126360|3,126360|2,126550|0,126550|1,126645|0,126645|1) - follow the pitch to some extent and reduce jack plz. really hard to afford the jack and the LN at the same time for most players accepted

02:24:303 (144303|2,144303|1,144398|1,144398|2) - 02:24:873 (144873|0,144873|1,144968|1,144968|0) - triple them and rearrange them for consisten accepted

One thing to note, it is really hard to rank such a map. Whether u want it ranked or not, if u want to make it more suitable for players, try to decrease jacks, or at least try to avoid quadratic or triple jacks, and double jacks are fair to play i think. SR is very underrated with jacks tbh

Nice song, and i can see ur mapping ideas clearly through this. Good Luck! Hope my mod helps

Moku_Hazushi wrote:

(From my modding queue)

Hey there, sorry for the late~ So yup its kinda a big mod in final, sorry i did mod the Deceiver difficulty cause its too hard for me and seems its still a work in progress tho. So yeah hopfully you will find some interesting suggestions (i hope) but as you know only change your map if you agree 120% to what i said eheh.

Good luck for getting this ranked ~

Legend is 0|1|2|3

EZ

00:09:683 (9683|0) - I would move it to (2) to get the jack with 00:09:398 (9398|2) going well with the battery. But that would mean moving 00:10:253 (10253|2) at (1) also i don't think this is necessary imo, this is for beginners (somewhat) afterall
00:13:481 (13481|3) - Same remark as above but then maybe move the jack to another column if you agree gonna have to deny this one just because in the higher diffs this isn't done

00:31:898 (31898|0,32088|2) - Maybe CTRL+G those 2 to keep a better balance between left to right and right to left starters on this part accepted

00:42:531 (42531|0) - At (1) to change from the previous 00:40:632 (40632|0,41012|3,41392|0) i just rearranged this whole section because i realised it was just all random lol

00:54:113 (54113|2,54303|3) - CTRL+G those 2, you had many left to right patterns before (00:52:594 (52594|1,52784|3) + 00:51:075 (51075|0,51265|1)) good find

00:59:620 (59620|0,60000|1,60189|2) +
01:02:658 (62658|2,63037|0,63227|1) +
01:05:696 (65696|3,66075|1,66265|0) - I think the first LNs of all those groups should be on the same column of the second LNs to match the electric guitar, just like you did at 01:08:734 (68734|2,69113|2,69303|3) but that would mean remapping the surrounding the first modder pointed out that doing this could prove to be a bit hard for beginners, and i agree with him. but thanks for pointing this 01:08:734 (68734|2,69113|2,69303|3) - out

01:38:449 (98449|0,98734|1) - CTRL+G this, again i think you start a lot with left to right pattern, this one could be right to left accepted

01:55:253 - What about adding a note at (2) to mark the transition ? (doesnt affect the start rating) i think it's as it is imo

I was thinking, maybe you can make 02:24:303 (144303|0) an LN until 02:24:873 and 02:24:873 (144873|3) an LN until 02:25:443 - Just to add a contrast during the kiai with the rest of the mapping i dont think that follows the song very well

Really good easy map, you did a good work mapping the battery and other relevant musical events, dont forget the hitsounding by the way :3

NM

00:28:481 (28481|0,28575|2,28670|3,28765|1,28860|2) - I think you should go for a more trill-like pattern here i think the way i have it is fine
00:34:556 (34556|1,34651|3,34746|0,34841|2,34936|3,34936|1) - Same remark ^

At 00:40:253 i would like to suggest a different mapping to mark the transition tell me what you think. The idea is to emphasize the guitar with jacks also creating a contrast with the surrounding mapping. oo i like the idea of the jacks



00:53:259 - I think you should add a note here for the guitar, maybe at (0) and then move 00:53:354 (53354|1) at (2) (doesnt affect the star rating) yes but if i did that then i would have to do it for all the rest of the section for consistency and doing that will make it too hard i think

00:58:670 (58670|2) - Would move it at (1) for a triple jack matching with the guitar im not mapping to the guitar here [/color]

01:02:373 - Same idea as 00:53:259, i think adding an note here could be great same thing here

01:11:012 (71012|2) - Would make it an LN until 01:11:202
01:11:202 (71202|1) - This one too until 01:11:392 To mark the transition im not a fan of mapping to vocals, sorry

01:15:000 (75000|1) - Maybe move it to (2) but i must admit i have no particular reason this time xD accepted lul

01:18:607 - Okay i just realized that i was expected a note here, and same for easy in fact, but maybe its okay with nothing too as you prefer same thing as before

01:24:303 (84303|3) - What about changing it to an LN until 01:24:683 you know to have that feeling of "take your breath... aaand lets go !" LN doesn't fit the song

01:37:215 (97215|3) - Move it to (2), so it wont repeat with 01:36:835 (96835|3) and get more connected with the 01:36:930 (96930|0,97025|1,97120|0) trill accepted for different reason

01:41:867 (101867|2) - Maybe at (3) to get the same feeling as 01:42:341 (102341|3,102436|1,102531|3) accepted

01:55:063 (115063|2,115063|0,115253|3,115443|1) - I was expected something more dense here with notes at 01:55:158 and 01:55:348 kept consistent as previous verse

02:12:911 (132911|0) - Ok maybe an LN here too until 02:12:911 (132911|0) for the same reasons as 01:24:303 same reason

02:19:367 (139367|3,139367|0,139556|2,139556|1) - I think you should go for the same doubles, but i cant find any pattern without unwanted jack with 02:19:177 (139177|2) or 02:20:031 (140031|1) dont think it changes much

Great difficulty again, i really enjoyed those small partterns during the last kiai (02:22:405 (142405|2,142405|0,142500|1) ; 02:22:689 (142689|3,142784|2) ; 02:23:069 (143069|0,143164|1,143164|3) etc) really looks like ddr patterns somehow xD But yeah same dont forget the hitsouding once you will be satisfied with the mapping

HD

00:13:101 (13101|0,13101|1) - I think you can move these double to (1,2) to have the same with 00:13:481 (13481|2,13481|1) going well with the battery, and the jack with 00:12:911 (12911|2) is alright no the jack isn't alright because the pattern doesn't stay consistent

00:15:759 (15759|1,15759|2) - Those one should be at (0,1) and 00:15:949 (15949|3,15949|0) (2,3) to recall the symetric of 00:15:000 (15000|3,15000|2,15189|1,15189|0) that doesn't really make much sense mapping wise to me

00:19:177 (19177|3) - At (0) for the same reasons as 00:13:101 (13101|0,13101|1) same reason

00:23:259 (23259|0) - At (1) and
00:23:354 (23354|1) - At (0) so the both 1/4 fast patterns (00:22:974 (22974|3,22974|2,23069|1) + 00:23:259 (23259|3,23259|0,23354|1)) go to the same direction, and just after you have 00:23:734 (23734|3,23734|0,23829|1) + 00:24:018 (24018|2,24018|0,24113|3) going to the opposite direction which is great

00:30:189 (30189|1) - Move it to (3) not exactly for the same reason as above but in the same spirit at least accepted

00:32:373 (32373|3,32373|2,32468|0) - CTRL+H these you have too much of double + single note to the left pattern accepted

00:49:936 (49936|3) - Maybe move it to (1) for the jack accepted

00:51:645 + 00:52:025 + 00:52:405 - I was thinking maybe you can find a way to add LNs here (1/1 long) to go with the singing adding contrast with the usual mapping you are using during the whole song same reason, and i think its more important to keep patterning consistent throughout the map instead of throwing in LNs to map for the vocals for only one section of the map because overall that would make the map look random
01:03:797 + 01:04:177 + 01:04:556 - Same remark ^

01:09:683 (69683|3,69683|1,69873|2,69873|0) - CTRL+H these and try to adapt the following, you had many double sequences going from right to left before, you can add variation here accepted

01:21:360 (81360|0) - I would remove this one to mark the end of the current singing phrase denied

At 01:25:063 i suggest the following mapping, always in the idea to add contrast between the surrounding : again, it doesn't follow the music at all



01:42:911 (102911|3,102911|2,103006|0,103006|1,103101|2,103101|3,103196|0,103196|1,103291|2,103291|3) - Maybe go fore a (1,3) -> (0,2) double alternate here fair enough

02:26:107 (146107|0,146107|2,146202|1,146202|3) - CTRL+H these to to keep balance between patterns accepted

02:39:778 (159778|2,159778|1) - I think this double is a bit too much its for the snare

Okay the battering mapping is amazing but its sometime really too monotonic. I advice for your future mapping to keep going like this and they try to lighten some parts with LNs or pause going with the melody or the singing. Otherwise i think you will have fun hitsounding this, good luck for ranking :3

MX

00:18:227 - Double here thank

00:21:455 (21455|0) - I think you should move it to (3), no need to continue the jacks here anchor is on 0 because of the guitar (it's muted slightly because of the introduction of the second guitar)

00:23:164 (23164|1,23449|2,24683|1) - You dont need to have the mapping so excited at the beginning, id remove those accepted
00:25:917 (25917|1,26202|0,26962|0,27436|0) - Same ^

00:31:234 (31234|0) - Would remove this one too denied

00:40:063 (40063|0,40158|1) - CTRL+H these for patterns balance

01:20:886 - Not sure triple is necessary here for snare
01:23:164 - Same ^

01:31:234 (91234|3,91518|1,92753|2) - Remove these, you can calm down the mapping we are not in kiai anymore accepted
01:34:272 (94272|0,95316|3,97310|2,98354|3) - Same

02:10:537 (130537|3) - Maybe remove this and wat
02:10:632 - Add triple here wat

02:12:246 (132246|1,132436|3) - Id remove those 2 and
02:12:341 - Add triple here, the idea is to add variation to the mapping following the singing phrases denied

02:18:702 (138702|2,138892|0) - Would remove those 2
02:18:797 - Triple here (1,2,3)
02:18:987 - And here (0,1,2) for the same reasons as above denied


Honestly i dont think this difficulty is ready to be rank, the kiai times especially need more works try to emphasize some parts of the mapping and not just adding notes every 1/4 beats and double or triples at the right time. Its way too monotonic.

SC

00:22:879 (22879|3,23164|1,24208|0) - Would remove this one, same reasons as MX, no need to go into such nervous mapping at the beginning keep space for the kiai times i think it's fine for SC

00:27:436 (27436|0,27626|3) - Remove those 2 let us breath a bit doesnt flow nicely
00:33:512 (33512|2,33702|0) - Same thing

00:43:291 (43291|0,43291|1,43386|1,43386|0,43481|3,43481|2,43575|2,43575|3) - Not sure the double jacks are relevant here, this is a transition moment you would like another type of mapping, maybe LNs or trills 00:43:670 -

00:50:886 (50886|1) - Move it to (2) i think the (1) columns is a bit overused here mapped to guitar
00:52:405 (52405|1) - Same ^

01:18:987 - Looks like you had some space for the kiai time afterall... But sorry i wont mod this kiai, mapping isnt just adding doubles or triples every 1/4 beats you probably noticed this but its doubles for kicks and triples for snares. also even if i were to map to vocals the drums are a lot more powerful here imo

01:31:234 (91234|2,91518|2) - Would remove those 2, need some breath after that kiai keeping for consistency

01:35:791 (95791|1,95981|1) - Remove those 2 and add triple at 01:35:886 denied

01:39:493 (99493|3,99493|1,99493|0,99588|0,99588|1,99683|3,99683|2,99778|3,99778|2) - Same comment as 00:43:291 same as before

01:48:417 (108417|2,108607|2) - I would move those 2 to (1) column same as before

02:07:594 - Same thing as 01:18:987 for the first half of that kiai, i think you should redo the mapping

02:22:594 (142594|1) - Would remove this one to add variation denied

02:25:158 (145158|3,145348|1) - Remove those 2 and add triple at 02:25:253 same as before

02:41:487 (161487|1,161487|0,161582|1,161582|0,161677|0,161677|1) - Im not convinced by those jacks, i dont see which part of the battery it matches to, maybe replace them with simple notes even 1/8 ones to contrast with the surrounding mapping jacks are for snares, also how would adding 1/8 make sense when there's clearly nothing in the music that follows that snapping???

Same as the MX, still lot of works to do before you can get this ranked. As i said, you should review the 2 last kiais im sure you can do better than that. I know mapping 4.5*+ is hard but try to find the good alchemy between hard parts and more lighten ones.

CrumpetFiddler wrote:

as requested in Crumpey's modding queue

MX, HD

MX(Mod)
00:10:632 (10632|2) - quad doesnt fit here imo remove the note highlighted i'll remove note from column 0 cos column 2 is for the guitar
00:57:531 (57531|0,57531|2,57626|1,57721|3,57721|2,57721|0,57816|1,57911|2,57911|3,58006|1,58101|0,58101|3,58196|1,58291|0,58291|2,58291|3,58386|1,58481|0,58481|3,58481|2,58575|1,58670|0,58670|2,58765|3) - Very left hand heavy, although not objectively wrong will change
01:31:139 (91139|1,91139|2,91139|0) - a very quiet triple here, id contemplate making it a double accepted
01:53:734 (113734|3,113734|0,113829|2,113924|1,113924|0,113924|3,114018|2,114113|3,114113|1,114208|2,114303|0,114303|1,114398|2,114493|0,114493|3,114493|1,114588|2,114683|3,114683|1,114683|0,114778|2,114873|1,114873|0,114968|3,115063|1,115063|2,115063|0,115158|3,115253|2,115253|1,115348|0,115443|3,115443|2,115443|1) - i think you flipped the pattern from earlier, this is very right hand heavy yep

HD
01:18:987 - 01:31:139 - the chorus is similar to if not harder than MX, id consider watering it down a little bit HD is only triples on 1/1 beat where as MX is triples on 1/1 and doubles on 1/2 beats so idk how HD is harder than MX
02:07:594 - 02:19:746 - same goes for this place

thats some good shit right there, (didnt map nm or ez cause im bad at modding so low star songs, and im a bit lazy XD)
+2 stars

cpotfangirl wrote:

Yo!

From mine and Vortex- modding queue, not gonna mod deciever since I'm not very fond of the core idea of the long jacks rip

SC Difficulty

00:25:443 (25443|0) - Honestly feel like there should be jumps (doubles) in this section instead of this slider since it emphasizes the drum alot better, right now it feels kinda empty and there's really no meaning behind the slider, and if there is, there should also be one at 00:28:481 - the LN is supposed to represent the guitar, hence why i didnt put any on 00:28:481 -

01:41:677 - Should be a double here accepted

01:47:658 - Move one note to the third column so it fits the pattern you've created with one column indicating the guitar strums, 01:47:848 (107848|2,108037|2,108227|2,108417|2,108607|2,108797|2,108987|2) - etc accepted

02:05:316 - This should be a double and this 02:05:506 - a triple, you've mapped the symbal sound like a triple before >01:43:291 - and right after > 02:06:835 - just realised this bit is a mess, will fix and add your mod, but i will keep the triple at 02:05:316 - for the snare

02:13:291 - I really feel like these jacks should be split into two different parts so that it creates two doublejacks, more balanced since it's a 4* map and you've mapped two jacks earlier in the map

02:19:746 - 02:31:898 - Don't understand why this part is a handstream, really feel like notes like this 02:19:841 (139841|0,139936|1) - should be removed since the guitar sound is so faint, feels a little like a dump at this part (overmapped) i think it's fine, and the guitar seems pretty prominent to me (also see kuo kyoka's altale lul)

MX difficulty

00:10:632 - Should be a double, just like these are 00:11:962 (11962|0,11962|2,12151|1,12151|3) - i think its fine as triple because of the crash

00:25:443 (25443|0) - Same with this slider as last diff i modded, maybe split it into two separate sliders since it would emphasize the guitar better? same thing as SC

01:41:677 - Missing note(s) thank

02:07:215 (127215|3,127215|2) - An idea here is to move these two notes two column to the left emphasizing her voice lowering in pitch sure

02:19:746 - Same with this part as i mentioned in the difficulty above, feels like a dump. You should think about removing the "ghost notes" since they are so faint and you don't need these notes in this difficulty. Feels alot smoother without them since it's a more "chill" part. same as SC

02:47:848 (167848|1) - Make this slider end here 02:48:370 - like other difficulties cool thing

Nice song and I especially like the MX difficulty, not sure about the others though, that's just my taste I guess

GL with the map, you've got potential here

Captain Cusheen wrote:

modd :####3333

sc

aayyyy I can't mod anything sorry D: BUUUt
02:13:291 - I think this is too much though eeh sorry I cant find anything wrong here D: so don't put kudos if not helpfulluwu i think its fine owo

dkingo wrote:

Hello worm, NM from my queue~

mod

[General]

1. Disable widescreen support on all diffs

done

[EZ]

1. 01:55:822 (115822|2,116202|2) - I wonder if jack LN is too hard for beginners, try to move some of them to col 1 will do
2. 01:58:860 (118860|3,119240|3) - Same as above ^
3. 02:06:835 - Add a note for the cymbal accepted

[NM]

1. 00:29:050 (29050|3) - Move to col , there are too many notes on right hand accepted
2. 00:29:050 (29050|3) - Add a note for the cymbal no cymbal there

[Deceiver]

1. 00:10:632 - Remove a note, the sound is weaker than 00:10:253 - where you used 4 notes accepted
2. 00:43:006 (43006|1) - Move to col 3, I think there are too many notes on col 2 meant to be like that for the guitar
3. 00:46:329 - I don't like that jack chord here, I'd prefer this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8237685 that's a lot harder :/
4. 00:57:721 - Add a note for the cymbal denied
5. 00:59:620 - Add a note for the snare, to compare with 01:00:379 - denied as adding extra notes for the cymbal would ruin the map imo
6. 01:01:518 - Maybe remove a note? There is only guitar sound accepted

Can't find more from this diff, it's too complicated

Good luck!

DDMythical wrote:

1 / 2 / 3 / 4

EZ

Solid Difficulty. No problems I could find; A bit confused by your polyrhythmic choices but not much else to go off. I'm assuming by what you meant when you said polyrhythm are 00:22:974 (22974|3,23259|0) - these notes. in which case it is, my explanation for those are due to the 2-strum guitar bits, and i've simply mapped to the first strum of them

SC

This is so well layered holy shit
Fucking insanely well made diff. In my opinion I would remove deciever and make this the limit; but pushing the mapping meta is always a good thing. Either way this map is fucking quality. owo thanks : )))

Deciever

I should clarify that I cannot pass deciever at the moment; However I have a 93 on the lost dedicated and a 99 on go for it, if you're questioning my jacking ability. -- This feels like an overdone SC. i'm gonna see how far i can push this map for rank with this difficulty, but i do agree that it is overdone a bit.

00:09:050 (9050|0) - This isn't ok. Regardless of the difficulty range you're heading for, 1/8th 158bpm minijacks (or 316bpm 1/4th minijacks) are barely playable and require mostly luck to hit. they're 1/6 but i do see where you're coming from, i'll remove them since i have been asked to remove them before once
00:10:632 (10632|2) - Praise: You use layering very well in this section. :)))
00:22:341 (22341|0,22405|0) - Same thing as before. Don't do this regardless of however hard your map is meant to be. yup
00:23:544 (23544|0,23544|1,23544|3,23639|3,23639|0,23734|0,23734|3,23829|0,23829|3) - This patterning is so disappointing. With all due respect I think all the patterns like this could do a repattern; or maybe i'm just not good enough at wristjacking. i'll see what i can do about these. i think im probably going to keep just one anchor like this https://puu.sh/w8lMn/1395db6d0a.png so one hand has anchors and the other has trills. i'll leave the ones in the first kiai time tho because i think it fits in there
00:46:234 (46234|3,46329|3,46424|3,46518|3,46613|3,46708|3,46803|3,46898|3,46993|3) - No. Yes it's a jack map; I get that, but these kind of anchors just hurt; You could repattern this whole segment to be much more interesting and less vibro anchored wristjacking removed the anchors
00:46:329 (46329|1,46424|1,46518|1,46613|1,46708|1,46803|1,46898|1,46993|1,47088|1) - See above. ^
01:17:468 (77468|2,77563|2,77658|2,77753|2,77848|2,77943|2,78037|2,78132|2,78227|2) - ^ ^
I'm going to stop going through this difficulty here; Just remove all of those minijacks and repattern the anchors. I can't really go further as it's an extremely well layered map but it's not how I would map anything so my criticism is just objective and probably not helpful.

Sorry for this low quality mod; As an apology I've done some quick background work on the map and I don't mind if you don't use it but here it is: http://i.imgur.com/LFcFOTE.jpg wo thanks for the bg! will use it for sure

Lenfried- wrote:

ok it's about time i stop procrastinating my mods

general

we all hate metadata and touhou related stuff had a recent(?) shift on how the source should be dealt with. Consider the latest(?) ranked 2hu map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/504315
Might want to use 東方地霊殿　～ Subterranean Animism. as source instead.
might want to add chireiden th11 to tags just to be safe
Need more convincing with the source usage? Check these out:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/473862
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/564014
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/582625 thank for memedata help

hd

00:08:734 - will be less lenient with lower difficulties like these when it comes to rigidity. the mini 1/4 trill -> 1/6 on the left hand is not the best thing to play. You might want to go for something like this instead: https://puu.sh/we4jE/968059252d.png ur rite thanks
00:23:544 (23544|2,23734|0) - swap col. Just a preference on how this bit should flow on the side of playability. cool
00:32:658 (32658|2) - to 1 kinda follows the same line of reasoning rearranged for better flow

02:09:493 - you might have screwed up your triple usage here if this is not intentional. Compared to the previous section, the triples shifts to another sound ending up being used on a rather weak drum than a stronger one. erslfkjddzsffhawo;sf ur rite fuckckkckckckck
Example:
02:09:493 (129493|0,129493|2,129493|1,129873|0,129873|2,129873|3) - this is where the shifting takes place. Consider how 02:10:253 (130253|1,130253|0) - this is strong and is not a triple while 02:10:632 (130632|1,130632|2,130632|3) - is tripled. Just wanted to point that out.
As an addition, 02:14:050 - this section does not contain the layering shift just to reinforce my argument. Even the other diffs

02:19:746 - considering that this is a kiai section, dropping the overall difficulty like this is not very nice imo might want to use some triples here and there. The current difficulty gap between this section and the MX diff's section is quite large. Should SR be a concern, you can always nerf the jumptrills. yeye discussed thru pm

Deceiver and MX is wellmapped pls consider wellmapping more in the future u wu thanks

Chibitania wrote:

Hiya, I'm from the Chibi modding forum.

Guide: 1|2|3|4

EZ

01:18:227 (78227|0) - Move note to column 4 coolio

02:43:291 (163291|2) - Move note to column 2 02:43:670 (163670|2) - i'll move this to column 2 instead

Since this mod is mostly opinionated, to me it feels more clean to alternate.

NM

02:39:303 (159303|0) - Make this a double note 1|2 shure

02:48:322 (168322|2,168322|3) - This is a fairly interesting ending. As much as it does fit in with the music it's pretty difficult for a NM map. (I'll let you decide what to do with it since it's not wrong) i agree

HD

00:39:683 (39683|2) - Move to column 2 this was done on purpose

00:47:088 (47088|1,47088|2) - Make this a triple note i think this is fine
01:43:291 (103291|0,103291|2) - I would ask to make this a triple note too however it seems that you're using double trills

Very challenging yet still a HD map, very good.

There's not much to say about the map as in problems. Everything flows very nicely with a couple teeny tiny errors. This is my first time professionally modding instead of giving advice (AKA using the time and columns and everything) so the bookmarks of time might be incorrect.

Good luck on getting this ranked!

riunosk wrote:

from my mod queue 1 2 3 4

General

ODHP for EZ and NM is way too high, try reducing to around 7 each for EZ and maybe 7.5 for NM each sure thang

yizy

01:52:784 (112784|3) - maybe move to 1 since col 1 is somewhat empty? true
Great chart, couldn't find much issues

normmmmmmal

00:25:063 (25063|2,25063|0,25158|1,25253|3) - try 34 1 2 for flow and playability? ur probably right
00:26:582 (26582|0,26582|2,26677|1,26772|3,26867|0) - ^similar oki
00:45:949 (45949|3,46044|2,46234|1,46329|0) - broken stairs might be a bit tough for this difficulty wasnt intending on broken stairs although im not sure if what i did is any better
02:08:354 (128354|1,128354|0,128544|3,128734|0,128734|2,128924|1,129113|2,129113|3,129303|0,129493|3,129493|1,129683|2,129873|0,129873|1,130063|3,130253|0,130253|2,130443|1,130632|2,130632|3,130822|0,131012|3,131012|1,131202|2,131392|0,131392|1,131582|3,131772|0,131772|2,131962|1,132151|3,132151|2,132341|0,132531|3,132531|1,132721|2,132911|0,132911|1) - vary these? it looks pretty plain playing the same pattern over and over again i'll try my best
Good chart overall

haaaaaaaard

01:24:683 - make these 12 34 jumptrills for easier play? sure
Great stream chart

macks

00:08:829 (8829|2,8829|3) - i would avoid this jumpjack since its right at the very start and can catch players off guard oki
00:46:234 (46234|1,46234|2,46329|1,46613|2,46708|2,46708|1) - this transitioning between jumptrills seems a bit too hard for 4.2* imo made it just jumptrill
01:24:683 (84683|0,84683|1,84778|1,84778|0,84873|2,84873|3,84968|3,84968|2) - i would rather keep this as a normal jumptrill than suddenly introducing jacks out of nowhere i think its fine and those jacks arent that hard anyways
01:41:772 (101772|2,101772|3,101867|3,101867|2) - why is this jacked because of snares
02:13:291 - ^same as before ^same as before
02:20:031 (140031|0,140126|0) - i strongly feel that this jack should not be here since it ruins the streaming pattern that you were maintaining its done differently because the chorus has an obvious change
02:43:291 (163291|3,163291|0,163354|1,163354|2,163417|0,163481|2,163544|3,163607|1,163670|3,163670|2,163734|0,163734|1,163797|2,163860|0,163924|1,163987|2) - im pretty sure this doesnt fit into a 4.2* diff basing difficulty of SR LUL ok i rearranged the pattern so it has more flow
This chart has too many jacks that i feel that some should be nerfed in some way

d c ver

00:08:734 (8734|1,8734|3,8734|0,8829|2,8829|0,8829|1,8924|3,8924|2,8987|1,8987|0,9050|2,9113|0,9113|3,9113|1) - oh my fuck what is going ON not hard to play ???
00:22:025 (22025|3,22025|2,22088|1,22088|0,22151|2,22151|3,22215|1,22215|0,22278|3,22278|2,22341|1,22405|2,22405|0) - what what
I'll have to stop here, this difficulty is severely overmapped in terms of massively excessive jacking and unnecessary notes like 00:22:025 (22025|2,22025|3,22088|1,22088|0,22151|2,22151|3,22215|1,22215|0,22278|3,22278|2) - coolio
02:07:594 - this is seriously overboard

deceiver is death git gud xddDdd

Lenfried- wrote:

hey. heyy. heeeeeyyyy.

source needs that . in the end like:
some moonrunes Subterranean Animism.

that . matters no kd

TheNewBungping wrote:

Hi I'm from TheNewBungping's 4Keys O!Mania GD/Modding Queue [OPEN]

1|2|3|4


COOL SONG AND MAP

EZ

00:10:063 Put a note here (I know it's Easy diff, but still)

00:39:873 Move 1 to 3 cool thang
00:40:253 Move 3 to 1 ^

00:59:240 - 01:11:392 Kinda interesting choice for using short LNs, but I donk think it's rankable since it's easy diff, convert it to normal notes i'm just gonna change where LNs are used in all diffs cos i realised NM and HD have barely any LNs. also i dont see why its not rankable ???
01:55:443 - 02:04:556 ^

01:42:531 Move 1 to 4 oki

NM

Use double notes for cymbals, if any cymbals in this diff is a single note, change it i'll do it if it is absolutely necessary

00:21:835 On 4 I didn't here any sounds, I recommend deleting it there is kick here

01:24:683 - 01:25:063 Weird stream, kinda too hard for normal, should change it (maybe use stair patterns) oki
02:13:291 - 02:13:670
02:31:139 - 02:31:518

HD

You can't ignore the loud cymbals i think you're confusing them for my hitsounds, in which case i'll lower the hitsound volume cos apparently its too loud
00:09:113 Add a note on 4
00:53:164 Add a note
01:05:316 ^
01:25:063 ^
01:31:139 ^
01:37:215 ^
01:43:291 ^
01:49:367 ^
01:55:443 ^
02:01:518 ^
02:13:670 ^
02:19:746 ^
02:25:822 ^
02:31:898 ^
02:34:936 ^

thenewlimee wrote:

knock knock, modding is came!
1 2 3 4

thenewlimee's modding - Deceiver

01:10:917 - add 1 (the other parts are all two, but only one here.) thank
01:16:329 (76329|2,76518|2) - move 1, 01:17:088 (77088|2,77278|2) - move 4, 01:18:227 (78227|2) - move 1 (how about this?) accepted
02:06:360 - (need a note) oshit
02:06:550 (126550|0) - delete (there is no other kick) accepted
02:06:740 (126740|3) - delete (ghost) i can clearly hear a kick here

since the map was almost perfect, I do not see any modding parts. sorry o w o

1164530434 wrote:

Hello,Worms
Metal rock awesome！
And there're nice catching in Drumsounds by heart
Anyway, I think I can give a little help in upgrading HS and make it better

So here HS mod in random
I make a Drum Track diff for catching HS specially.

SPOILER

Link: http://puu.sh/wtSRa/ed066ed5fb.zip
You can copy it to your diffs by using p/5392330 Remember choose keysounds when you're copying
If you feel something strange you could revise in HS diff directly by yourself

Changelog

SPOILER

Adding other HS in beatmap
Fixing little mistakes and I re-catching/check Drumtrack
Change the HS in “soft-hitnormal”
“soft-hitwhistle” not using in it at all but I keep it because it from yours
Every note have volume itself

Here's a last liar standing. Let‘s rock it to the end of the world！lol
Good Luck！

Proxian wrote:

As requested from my Modding Queue:

Normal

00:28:860 - I think you should put two notes here. I hear a pretty big sound accepted
00:30:379 - Doubles here too i think i'll leave this one as a single as it is different from the one above (not really that loud compared to it)
00:33:417 - Same (This is the last one I promise) same reason as above
00:39:493 (39493|0,42531|3,45569|0) - There are strong sounds here. I'm 50/50 on this one, so it's your choice for a double these are left as singles so that they are different from these ones 00:34:936 (34936|3,34936|1,41012|2,41012|3) -
01:02:278 - Either add a note here or take one off at 01:05:316 denied as the former does not have a crash, whereas the latter does

Easy

01:12:151 - This note deserves a double i used doubles for the snares in the kiai time, don't want to make it too hard
01:13:670 (73670|2,75189|3) - These too ^
01:31:898 (91898|2,93417|2,94936|1,96455|0,97974|2,99493|0,101012|0) - These land on hard snares your choice if they should get a double or not keeping it consistent as above

Nice map, I never knew a song like this would have a static BPM lol
GL for rank

FastYoshi wrote:

Hi from queue

1/2/3/4

These are the kind of maps that are my weakness: It is so well-mapped I have nothing to say. o w o

EZ & HD is all clear!

Mod

NM

00:48:607 (48607|0) - Move to 2, feels like an empty column accepted

01:25:063 - 01:31:139 - Nice pattern originality fuck, fixed

02:31:139 - No double, remove 3 true


MX

00:59:240 - Add a note to 2 oki

00:59:335 - I can't hear any beat here... well even if you hear it, it's minor so I would remove the notes or one. will remove one, as i'm fairly certain there's a kick here

I feel useless after modding this... your mod was helpful, don't worry

Anyways good luck!

Tofu1222 wrote:

wow this set is much better than the time when I modded it lol. Good luck!

Protastic101 wrote:

no generic dense handsteam stuff smh no wait jk, jacks are cool too

[General][list]
[*]Is soft-hitwhistle used anywhere? I kind of cant find it in notepad since you sample imported everything, and I can't find you using any of the editor shortcuts for samples. i'll be honest some dude did the hitsounds for me and i listened to it and it sounded fine so i didnt really bother changing anything cos i didnt really know how to the hitsounding stuff. i'll try my best to not be lazy this time
[*]OD/HP jump from NM to HD feels a bit too large. Might tone down HD's values by 0.2 or so cause sure, it's some broken streams but it's still 158 bpm so there's no reason to punish the player incredibly hard for a missed note :/ will fix
[*]Not too sure about the diff jump between NM and HD. Feels pretty big cause you have some places that are very sparse in the NM but pretty heavy in the HD https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8536696 or the 1/2 jumpstreams vs 1/4 handstreams https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8536698 . I think the best option here would be to add a difficulty in between, and rename the HD to MX, and MX to SC, and focus this new difficulty on 1/4 single streams with sparse jumps. aaaaaaaaa

[Deceiver]
00:28:006 (28006|1,28006|0,28101|1,28196|0,28291|1,28386|0,28481|1) - Lots of minijacks and one handed trills on the left hand whereas the right hand just has a chord or two, so it feels a lot heavier on the left hand than the right. I'd try arranging it like this to even it out https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8528851 i think i'll leave this because i don't think the song calls for another minijack like you've put in the screenshot, and i've tried changing the pattern before it too but it all ends up with some sort of trill happening

00:57:721 (57721|2,57721|1,57816|0,57911|1,57911|2) - I kind of dislike this particular pattern because of how it's set to be heavier on one hand than the other.
Instead, I would try to make it a bit more linear like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8528873 changed it differently

01:01:708 (61708|0,61803|3) - Control H this to avoid having a jack on the outer columns while holding an LN at the same time. If you control H the notes, it isolates the LN and the minijack so that it's easier to hit as each hand is doing only one type of pattern.
01:06:265 (66265|2,66265|1,66360|3,66360|0,66455|3) - I'd suggest the same thing here, like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8528882 . It's normally easier to hit the jacks with the index finger while the middle holds as opposed to the other way around. idk i don't think it's fun to just do one type of jacks, and i think the players should be exposed to different kinds of techniques as well

01:06:645 (66645|0) - Move to col 3 cause there's already a few LNs in col 1 so it's a bit more straining than it needs to be it's there for pitch relevancy

01:35:886 - to 01:36:075 - Kind of disliking this left -> right -> left strain. I'd prefer if it were more evenly balanced like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8528893 personally i think it's not something to worry about too much but oki

01:54:493 (114493|1,114493|2,114683|1,114683|2,114778|0,114873|1,114873|2,114968|3,115063|1,115063|2) - aaaaa, god I hate the direction turns in this. You have this constantly stacked jump which I don't think is necessary because the percussion in the music differs slightly at 01:54:873 - , so I would do this instead to take some of the weight off the inner columns https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8528916 will change

02:04:556 - Since this measure is just full of kicks kind of like at 00:34:936 - , so I'd do the same kind of jack structure https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8534861 right but you also have to take into account the guitar as well, which is why the section is different

02:06:075 (126075|0,126075|1,126170|2,126170|1,126265|3,126265|2,126360|3,126360|0) - These reverse shields are pretty unbalanced imo cause all the weight is focused on the left hand, and then shifts to the right only once. Instead, since the guitar alternates a bit in pitch, I might just do a jumptrill like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8534873 denied. this is one thing i'll be standing my ground for, and i REALLY don't want to be using a jumptrill or double/trill alternative

02:06:835 (126835|0) - I'd extend this to 02:07:025 - just for simplification purposes. eh

02:08:354 (128354|2,128354|1,128544|1,128544|2,128734|2,128734|1,128924|2,128924|1) - tfw stacked jumps for no reason.https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8534899 might do this instead so that the jacks switch hands every time uhh this was done on purpose. if you look at the rest of the chorus they're all done the same, just arranged differently

02:13:670 - Would try and calm down on the 1/4 OH trills here and use a few more [12][34] patterns to act as a rest for the player, like at 02:14:050 -

02:20:506 (140506|2,140601|3,140696|1,140696|2,140791|0,140886|1,140981|0,141075|1) - I'd try to avoid using a lot of direction turns like this during a handstream cause it can be kind of uncomfortable as it forces the strain to be more on the index fingers as opposed to middle. Might suggest this to improve it a bit https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8535194 and so on i'd rather keep it a nice mix

02:23:164 (143164|1) - I'd move this to col 4 to make a perfect jack with 02:23:069 (143069|2,143069|3) - , and then arrange the following notes like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8535218 nice idea

02:43:544 (163544|2,163607|3) - I'd control J to connect these notes with 02:43:670 (163670|1,163670|0) - which makes it smoother to hit imo oki


[MX]
00:08:987 (8987|3,9050|2,9113|3) - I think this is a bit hard to hit cause of the 1/6 OH minitrill, so what I would do is make it two handed and try to connect it to the starting 1/4 mini jumptrill like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8535249 cool

00:40:632 (40632|2,40632|0,40727|3,40822|1,40822|2,40917|0,41012|3,41012|1) - The direction turns here make me very sad :c https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8535272 linear js makes me limp

00:58:860 (58860|1,58860|2,59050|2,59050|1,59240|2,59240|1) - Direction turning again! I'd try to break the stack in col 2 a bit here too like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8535318 . I realized while arranging it that there would be a larger stack in col 1, so I tried to break that up too :veryhardthenk: fuCK OKAy

01:12:911 - I'd try to balance this out a bit more compared to the Deceiver diff by capping the end of the 1/6 roll with a jump, like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8535450 oki

01:19:177 (79177|1,79272|2,79367|1,79462|2) - I'd control H this to keep the direction linear and easy to follow. oKAY
01:19:651 (79651|1,79746|0,79746|2,79841|3,79936|2,79936|1,80031|0) - Assuming you did the above, I'd arrange the following a bit different to rebalance the stream like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8535505 yep redone

01:24:208 (84208|1,84303|0,84398|1,84493|0) - Bit of a change in the flow, so I'd try to make it more linear so that it's a bit smoother to hit with a control H on 01:24:398 (84398|1,84493|2) - when u shift a note in a handstream u have to shift everything else to rebalance it : )))))

01:36:740 - Dont really see a reason not to make this a jump. It's for the kick anyways, and similar in structure to 01:33:417 - anyways, so I'd just make it part of the [12][34] jt jt is for the snare

01:42:246 - Missing a note here for the kick. I'd just add a jumpstream for this measure to maintain a consistent flow, and also control J 01:42:056 (102056|2,102104|3) - to connect it with the jump at 01:42:151 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8535530 i think it might just be a hitsounding error,
there isn't supposed to be a tom there as the hitsound suggests. time to go over hitsounds again weeeeeee

01:54:018 (114018|2,114113|1,114113|3,114208|2) - I feel like these type of patterns are more straining on one hand than the other and it also causes a bit of a hard direction change, so maybe like this might be better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8535546 will change

02:17:848 (137848|2,137848|1,137943|0,138037|2,138037|1,138132|3) - 02:12:626 (132626|3,132721|2,132721|1,132816|0,132911|3,132911|1) - Just a few examples of direction changes which might not be as smooth as could be. I'd pretty much just try to avoid the [23][4][23] kind of stuff im just trying to have a nice mix of handstream patterns ((

02:13:670 - I notice you use a lot of the same patterns as seen here https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8535840 , which isn't bad, though I would try to go for a bit of variation as the same hand movement gets monotonous after a bit. will change

02:24:398 (144398|1) - Move to 3 for a bit of consistency with the stacked sounds like at 02:13:291 - oki

02:24:778 (144778|1,144873|2) - Control H here if the above is accepted for symmetry


[HD]
00:24:303 - Tbh, starting after this measure, I'm feeling a pretty strong right hand bias cause col 1 isn't really doing anything for a majority of the time. I'd try to rearrange a few notes to balance it out. woopsie

00:47:088 - Here, I'm a bit confused about how exactly you're chording things. Like, you obviously use jumps every 2/1, but the jumps on 00:48:037 - 00:48:417 - or 00:49:177 - lack thereof at 00:51:455 - makes it seem like you've kind of just added jumps whenever you felt like without any real reason or structure behind it. woopsie

01:21:740 (81740|2,81835|3,81930|1,82025|2,82025|0,82120|1,82215|3,82310|2) - Sure, there's symmetry here but it puts a lot of the strain on the left hand as that's where all the hand movement is concentrated. The right hand has the same number of notes but it's spread out further to allow rest time between notes. Therefore, I'd try to balance out the left hand like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8536659 i don't ever think about symmetry because i really don't think how a map "looks" should matter at all in mania but yea this will be changed

02:18:132 (138132|1,138227|2,138227|0,138322|1) - Similar thing to what I mentioned above except there's no symmetry in this one due to the notes at 02:17:943 (137943|0,138037|3) - being different from 02:18:417 (138417|3,138512|2) - . I'd either use a trill or just make it into a singular roll for ease. changed

02:24:683 - I'd add a note in col 4 for the crash here probs since it's super accented in the music but the chart doesn't reflect that same intensity :c again i think it might be just hitsound error

02:25:063 - Since you're ending on a crash here, I think it'd be best to add another note in 2 to make it into a jump. It also completes the mini jumptrill which is visually easier to group with 02:24:873 (144873|0,144873|1,144968|2,144968|3) - instead of reading it separately. oki

02:25:632 - Add a note here in 2 to connect 02:25:443 (145443|1,145443|2,145537|3,145537|0) - and 02:25:727 (145727|3,145727|2,145822|1,145822|0) - together for a smooth flow and transition leading into the next measure. eh i guess


[NM]
00:22:025 (22025|0,22120|1,22215|2,22310|0) - This is incorrectly snapped as it should be 1/6 instead of 1/4. I suggest you simplify though because 1/6 is probably too hard for a NM, in that case, you would use 1/3 instead, like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8536713 o yea why didnt i think of that

00:22:784 - Kind of hard to get the hang of the rhythm in this section because of how the drum line is made. I'd try using 3/4 rhythms instead which I think are more intuitive than the current 1/2 hooked rhythms https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8536764 changed my mind lol i think i'm going to keep it as it is because there are other sections where this fits better e.g. here 01:11:392 -

00:46:898 (46898|2,47278|2,47658|2,48037|2,48417|2) - Bit unnecessary of a stack here. I'd try to balance it out so the right hand isn't doing all the moving while the left hand just chills, like this or smth https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8536786 (that note on the blue tick should be on the red tick before it lol, dunno how it ended up there) yes

00:53:164 - Would add a note in col 4 for the crash here

00:59:240 - Feels a bit empty here cause you suddenly dropped the density by discontinuing the 1/2 jumpstream and instead went for a 1/1 jumpstream with a bit of 1/2 thrown in the mix for fun. I'd consider adding back the 1/2 drone just to keep density relatively the same since the music hasn't dropped in intensity that much. aight

01:32:848 (92848|0) - I'd move this up to 01:32:943 - to continue the same 3/4 rhythm I suggested in the beginning (same applies for 01:31:139 - ) yeeeeeeeeeeeee

01:45:189 (105189|0,105189|1,105949|1,105949|0) - I don't see a reason to repeat the two jumps, unless you're willing to do it for the rest of the musical phrase for consistency. Otherwise, I'd make them different. oki

01:55:443 - Same thing I mentioned at 00:59:240 - yep

02:47:468 (167468|1,167563|2,167658|0,167753|1) - Also incorrectly snapped due to 1/6 being unable to be simplified with 1/4. Make this 1/3 in that case so that it's a proper simplification for this difficulty. osu

Kind of became too lazy to mod EZ orz. Anyways, poke me in game if you find me cause I wanna go over the hitsounds in the lower diffs through irc, and we can also discuss the spread more in detail then. For now, this is just a regular mod.

kaythen wrote:

Foreground Eclipse is pretty cool. hey ur pretty cool

HD:

00:42:246 (42246|3,42246|0) - You had 2 note chords when the drum (or whatever percussion instrument that is) makes a sound. The sound doesn't exist here, so remove one of these notes. ( some examples of the percussion sound I'm talking about > over here 00:40:253 (40253|2,40253|1) - and 00:38:734 (38734|3,38734|2) - ) woops note is missplaced thank

01:41:677 - Kick drum sound here, so maybe add a note? Not necessary, but uhhhh yeah. yes

I don't really play 4k so I can't comment on the patterns.


Hope this helps, and good luck!

Ayachi Meme wrote:

hi

from my q <-shameless promo

1\2\3\4

hd

i think these 00:46:329 (46329|2,46424|1,46518|2,46613|1,46708|3,46803|0,46898|3,46993|0) - deserve to be doubles (and this a triple 00:47:088 (47088|1,47088|2) - but just my opinion) reason why they are singles is because this diff is supposed to be mostly stream-orientated so having them as singles flows nicely than making them into jumptrills imo
01:24:683 (84683|0,84778|2,84873|0,84968|2,85063|3) - same?!?! same !!!
01:42:911 (102911|0,103006|3,103101|0,103196|3) - ?? same !!!
02:13:291 (133291|2,133386|1,133481|2,133575|1) - same same

honestly really good map
i would give stars yeah nah wew lad

kthxbye

i also have a map that needs modding but i wont want to bring up my map in ur map forum : ) cheeky

puxtu wrote:

hd
00:47:848 - If I were you, I'd put a note here cuz it's weird to have a "pause" here while there's still rhythm guitar sound going on. accepted
00:50:886 - same here and so on until this point 01:11:392 - fixed
01:16:329 (76329|0,76518|0,76708|1,76898|1,77088|2,77278|2) - need some buffing here yeap
01:44:050 - same issue as I mentioned before mmmm
02:44:430 (164430|1) - I don't think this note is necessary unless if you're trying to layer something else aside from drum sound just realised its a ghost note lul

why is this not ranked yet? rank urs when : (

Hestia- wrote:

hihi~
[Deciever]
Too many jacks, most of them don't make sense. Not fun.
I recommend removing this diff entirely and putting it as an extra in the info section. Or delete and remap whole thing. nice meme, you overlooked the fact that its supposed to be a jack map
[SC]
Most of the hands feel unnecessary and too minijacky. Just use jumps. It's better as straight jumpstream map instead of jumpstream+funny minijacks ok time to explain all of these

remove minijack

00:28:101 (28101|3) - Remove 1 - they are there to accent kick to snare
00:28:481 (28481|0) - Remove 2 - same as 1, but also to differentiate patterning of kicks to snare
00:34:177 (34177|0) - Remove 1
00:34:556 (34556|2) - Remove 2
00:40:253 (40253|3) - Remove 1
00:46:234 (46234|1) - Remove 2
00:47:088 (47088|3) - Remove 3 - end of section, also same as 1
01:36:455 (96455|1) - Remove 1
01:36:835 (96835|2) - Remove 2
01:43:006 (103006|1) - Remove 2
01:43:196 (103196|2) - Remove 3
02:20:031 (140031|0) - Remove 1
02:22:500 (142500|2) - Remove 1
02:23:069 (143069|2) - Remove 1
02:25:537 (145537|0) - Remove 1
02:25:727 (145727|3) - Remove ok this one makes sense
02:26:107 (146107|3) - Remove 1
02:28:575 (148575|2) - Remove 1
02:29:145 (149145|3) - Remove 1
02:30:284 (150284|2) - Remove 1
02:30:664 (150664|0) - Remove 1
02:31:044 (151044|1) - Remove 2

[MX]
02:38:354 - Add 2
02:39:493 - Add 4
02:40:632 - Add 1
02:41:962 - Add 1
02:42:246 - Add 3
02:42:341 - Add 1
i think you might've missed how i've mapped this section
[HD]
01:12:911 (72911|0,72974|1,73037|2,73101|3,73291|0,73354|1,73417|2,73481|3,73670|1,73670|0,73860|3,73924|2,73987|1,74050|0) - these rolls are bad mappu how so? its done for simplicity as this is only HD and supposed to ease players into bursts/rolls
lazy fix = 01:13:037 (73037|2,73101|3,73417|2,73481|3,73860|3,73924|2) - Ctrl+H -> move to right again makes little to no difference as to what i have currently
[NM]
is missing notes done on purpose
00:24:018 - Add 3
00:24:493 - Add 4
00:24:778 - Add 1
00:26:012 - Add 3
00:26:297 - Add 4
00:27:056 - Add 3
00:27:816 - Add 2
00:29:050 - Add 2
00:29:335 - Add 4
00:30:094 - Add 3
00:30:569 - Add 3
00:30:854 - Add 1
00:32:088 - Add 4
00:32:373 - Add 3
00:33:132 - Add 3
00:33:892 - Add 4
[EZ]
ok