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0Azimuth
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Joined September 2016
0Azimuth

-yuo- wrote:

REPLY TO THE MASSIVE ESSAYS
You might want to open this and the previous page in two windows so you can refer between them.
For what it's worth, in reference to their feedback:

* Several of the criticisms that MadCharles or Firinael noted, I actually quite like - you defended most of them anyhow, but I strongly recommend that if you DO replace anything, keep the old version as an option (which, if Mods are an indicator, you appear to plan on doing anyway). The more unique elements of this skin are strong upgrades over the norms, and it's a huge part of why I favor this skin so heavily.
* For example, the dotted cursor trail is genius, and the cursor light on click is likewise amazing - even if either get tweaked, they should stay CONCEPTUALLY the same. The cursor fits the theme perfectly IMO.
* I love the miss currently. It's way less jarring (and subsequently punishing) than default / most.
* I love the stylized warning arrows. Aside from fitting the theme, they're clear indicators without being grossly prominent.
* The spinner is absolutely beautiful, I think the amount of feedback the complex spinner gives makes it worthwhile anyway.
* I actually agree that the various combo colors conflict with the green theme - before this skin, I went pretty exclusively monochrome for that reason. However, I don't think shading every combo color will help - the different color packs will be a good enough fix, I suspect. (There IS a white theme planned, iirc)
Firinael
58 posts
Joined August 2015
Firinael
lol I'm really sorry for writing so much stuff. I know it can be tiring reading all of that. Also, as for the cursor, I just meant that it would fit better on another skin, not that it was actually taken from somewhere else.

Hitbursts: I can understand that, just doesn't fit my personal taste. I can just edit that for personal use.

S+: it does seem to be the new standard, have been seeing people call it that recently. It's weird to me but hey, if that's what everyone calls it now then it's cool. I'd personally prefer a grey S (which was the standard up until some time ago) but there's no need to stress over that.

As for the followpoints: the issue is just something I deal with a lot because of a relatively low resolution monitor. It's 1680x1050 and elements with a higher resolution look serrated, the kind of stuff you'd use antialiasing for. I'll probably just use the SD followpoints when you release them. But I guess the animation is a bit too long? I mean, it looks nice but it's not that useful for gameplay. Might be just personal taste again, so no need to stress over that as well.

ps.: the song select interface seems really poorly designed when it comes to skinning capabilites, probably this kind of stuff that peppy wants to fix with osu!lazer

Also, if it's not too much to ask, could you take a look at this cursor and see if you could make something inspired on it? It's super ok if you don't want to or don't have the time to btw, it's just that I loved the idea you had from the cursor that was in my skin edit (even if it doesn't fit the skin imo) and would like to see what you come up with this time. Here it is: https://puu.sh/u1H43/8c01250b3d.png (it's really simple but imo it looks great).
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
You can get WWW v1.5 on his profile
Banbeucmas
105 posts
Joined July 2016
Banbeucmas
For some reason I saw that the grading (A, S, SS) would be perfect with square
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
REPLIES


0Azimuth

0Azimuth wrote:

For what it's worth, in reference to their feedback:

* Several of the criticisms that MadCharles or Firinael noted, I actually quite like - you defended most of them anyhow, but I strongly recommend that if you DO replace anything, keep the old version as an option (which, if Mods are an indicator, you appear to plan on doing anyway). The more unique elements of this skin are strong upgrades over the norms, and it's a huge part of why I favor this skin so heavily.
* For example, the dotted cursor trail is genius, and the cursor light on click is likewise amazing - even if either get tweaked, they should stay CONCEPTUALLY the same. The cursor fits the theme perfectly IMO.
* I love the miss currently. It's way less jarring (and subsequently punishing) than default / most.
* I love the stylized warning arrows. Aside from fitting the theme, they're clear indicators without being grossly prominent.
* The spinner is absolutely beautiful, I think the amount of feedback the complex spinner gives makes it worthwhile anyway.
* I actually agree that the various combo colors conflict with the green theme - before this skin, I went pretty exclusively monochrome for that reason. However, I don't think shading every combo color will help - the different color packs will be a good enough fix, I suspect. (There IS a white theme planned, iirc)
Thanks for that and i agree with all of your points, but what do you mean by the last one? I don't understand

Firinael

Firinael wrote:

lol I'm really sorry for writing so much stuff. I know it can be tiring reading all of that. Also, as for the cursor, I just meant that it would fit better on another skin, not that it was actually taken from somewhere else.

Hitbursts: I can understand that, just doesn't fit my personal taste. I can just edit that for personal use.

S+: it does seem to be the new standard, have been seeing people call it that recently. It's weird to me but hey, if that's what everyone calls it now then it's cool. I'd personally prefer a grey S (which was the standard up until some time ago) but there's no need to stress over that.

As for the followpoints: the issue is just something I deal with a lot because of a relatively low resolution monitor. It's 1680x1050 and elements with a higher resolution look serrated, the kind of stuff you'd use antialiasing for. I'll probably just use the SD followpoints when you release them. But I guess the animation is a bit too long? I mean, it looks nice but it's not that useful for gameplay. Might be just personal taste again, so no need to stress over that as well.

ps.: the song select interface seems really poorly designed when it comes to skinning capabilites, probably this kind of stuff that peppy wants to fix with osu!lazer

Also, if it's not too much to ask, could you take a look at this cursor and see if you could make something inspired on it? It's super ok if you don't want to or don't have the time to btw, it's just that I loved the idea you had from the cursor that was in my skin edit (even if it doesn't fit the skin imo) and would like to see what you come up with this time. Here it is: https://puu.sh/u1H43/8c01250b3d.png (it's really simple but imo it looks great).
Hmmm i say 'ok' to most your points... The new S+ standard is used even by Flyte, the official osu designer... can see on the new web...And about the cursor.... i have ideas but they don't really match nightgate skin much... Is the current one ok?

TheMadCharles

TheMadCharles wrote:

You can get WWW v1.5 on his profile
Umm did i get the right one? I dont see what i can use from it

Banbeucmas

Banbeucmas wrote:

For some reason I saw that the grading (A, S, SS) would be perfect with square
Like a box around it? i dont think that'll work well.... because the song card (well i'll call it that) kinda already surrounds it enough...
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
https://osu.ppy.sh/u/wubwoofwolf
You can grab hitsounds or sth
Cuhray
14 posts
Joined July 2016
Cuhray
Either its not out yet, or im crazy and cant find the download button..
Firinael
58 posts
Joined August 2015
Firinael

CarrettBarrett wrote:

Either its not out yet, or im crazy and cant find the download button..
You just have to click the filled colored square and it sends you to the Dropbox download link.
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
REPLIES

TheMadCharles

TheMadCharles wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/u/wubwoofwolf
You can grab hitsounds or sth
Any specific ones? I don't see any that suit the skin.... tbh...
CarrettBarrett & Firinael

Firinael wrote:

CarrettBarrett wrote:

Either its not out yet, or im crazy and cant find the download button..
You just have to click the filled colored square and it sends you to the Dropbox download link.
Yes, that's right. The images are clickable, they'll take you to whatever they are meant to take you to. Right now only the green colour is available because the skin is still a work in progress.

-------------------THE POLL HAS FINISHED-------------------


This poll has ended. I've decided to improve the hitbursts, add in some sounds and refine some elements, then I'll run another poll as a confirmation(maybe) and head for the colours!
NetRaven
3 posts
Joined January 2016
NetRaven
I'll be waiting white variation of color because green burns my eyes.
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Lol ok

Question - should the white one be like peach white or pure white?
v3s
8 posts
Joined March 2016
v3s
When do you think you will start working on SD? cuz im dying to see it.
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
I have a couple of things up...

1. Lots of homework. LOTS

2. Small VOEZ skin update and bug fixes - (score v2 mod, options folder etc)

3. Small SKY skin fixes (mostly for the options folder i think)

4. Nightgate Sounds / Possible Full Publish for osu! mode including HD

Someone else's skin all in parallel

But, I'm working really hard and fast on skins right now, so hopefully I can get 2 and 3 done today. Wish me luck!

Edit: welp... :( done 2 and 3 ... nightgate will receive some work soon.
lukegotjellyfis
lukegotjellyfis
While this skin looks amazing, is amazing, furiously brilliant and looks further into then future than my chances of getting and SS on a 6* map, it does take some getting used to, after that its easy, electronic sailing. 8-)
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
REPLY

lukegotjellyfis

lukegotjellyfis wrote:

While this skin looks amazing, is amazing, furiously brilliant and looks further into then future than my chances of getting and SS on a 6* map, it does take some getting used to, after that its easy, electronic sailing. 8-)
Niiiice
I might use this quote in like some promotion media... is that fine?

btw what did you mean by this?
"looks further into then future than my chances of getting and SS on a 6* map"
If somethings wrong i would like to know what it is then fix it :P
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles

-yuo- wrote:

Question - should the white one be like peach white or pure white?
I think pure white would be too much "In your face" color

While I'm here, more feedback from me

First of all, found a way to convert HD to SD in a fast way: https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... nt_use_hd/

So I used this with 16-9 aspect ratio, 90% opacity ring & dot circles as well as simplified spinner

- Speaking of that simplified spinner because it is darker, it took more time than normal for me to realize that I had to spin
- The Miss (I think it was mentioned before) should have an alternative with just the X fading out, cuz that glow is distracting

Pretty sure I mentioned this as well, if you are targeting this skin for pro players, there should a variety of customization available. While I know it is WIP, hitbursts wouble be a nice addition. Huge/Med/Small "100" In the middle/On top and not just dots

Also, had to put 26 in hitcircle offset cuz 2 dots in 2-digit numbers

EDIT1: In the reddit post, can you confirm this comment?
EDIT2: What is the font that you use for this skin?
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Thanks for the feedback.

TheMadCharles wrote:

"I think pure white would be too much "In your face" color"
Yes, ok. I'll go with a more yellowed colour.

TheMadCharles wrote:

"First of all, found a way to convert HD to SD in a fast way: https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... nt_use_hd/
EDIT1: In the reddit post, can you confirm this comment?"
Yes, I have already set up an automated Photoshop / Mac script that converts HD files to SD files. I have no problem converting to SD.
The reason why it's so long is that if i change a HD file, I'll need to change the SD file too, which can create problems and conflicts, and is also hard to handle. I'm working on all the HD files first, then after the skin completely works in HD, I'll convert it to SD.

TheMadCharles wrote:

So I used this with 16-9 aspect ratio, 90% opacity ring & dot circles as well as simplified spinner

- Speaking of that simplified spinner because it is darker, it took more time than normal for me to realize that I had to spin
- The Miss (I think it was mentioned before) should have an alternative with just the X fading out, cuz that glow is distracting

Pretty sure I mentioned this as well, if you are targeting this skin for pro players, there should a variety of customization available. While I know it is WIP, hitbursts wouble be a nice addition. Huge/Med/Small "100" In the middle/On top and not just dots

Also, had to put 26 in hitcircle offset cuz 2 dots in 2-digit numbers
Thanks for the info, I have been considering options for hitbursts. But since they are animated, they will take longer to make. Sorry for waits... As for the other points, I'll work on them. They'll be implemented if they work well.

TheMadCharles wrote:

EDIT2: What is the font that you use for this skin?
'Futura, for everything and Hall Fetica for the ranking letters. I might change some fonts in the future.

Thanks alot for the update! (no one has been replying here for a long time so i was kinda getting lost as to what was happening)
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------ME START WORKING-------------------

UPDATED 22 APR
I plan to upload a new developer update after turning some menu sounds and animating hit bursts. This will add new elements such as sounds and other innovations but won't be as debugged. Some minor elements might be bugged but should be playable.. alignment issues and other stuff from community suggestions probs won't be done too .


stuff:

ADDED SHADOWS for clarity to↓ ↓ for ppl who use less bg dim
countdown
warning arrow
#spinner [not working] HELP MEEE!!! p/5925840
lifebar and score

ADDED SOUNDS:
typing (delete not yet)
Main Menu
Select Diffuculty
Section Fail / Pass
Pause / Fail
Spinner

22 apr:
Tuned some sounds and shortened main menu sounds
Added and tuned applause to ranking

NOTE TO SELF : tune the vol and maybe length of spinner reward thing and change slidertick sound to a more suited one other than the bells


todo:
back
idk.. switches?
Menu back

ADDED MISC:
Score, Song Pie and Accuracy are now dimmed during gameplay to increase focus on gameplay.
#Target and ScoreV2 mods added. [fix colour, too bright]

MISC LOG
working on new hitbursts



archived content
Implemented a test version of the new hit bursts - not animated.
They grab way to much attention, and take way too long to recognise and fully understand in the mind. When one appears, you think 'whats that?', go look at it, and miss the next note.

Fixed the 'too flashy' issue by reducing the miss to a single-lined cross, and decreased the opacity of 50 and 100 bursts in gameplay down to 50%. It's still too flashy though, or maybe conflicting with the hit circles since these are also a 'ring' with 'something inside'

It's not as flashy as before when they where 100% bright, but i still feel the old 'dots' responded better. Maybe some animations that would make the bursts easier to recognise would work.

Some ideas i have that might fix things:
Add a quick 'Zoom In' (up FROM the middle, or down from a large size then TO the middle) and then slightly rotate the shape slowly, until it fades out, keeping the dot in the middle stationary and fading out.
Using only the triangle and not the diamond for hit 100. This might be the cause of the recognition issues because remembering five different shapes (tri, tri with dot, diamond, diamond with dot, cross) are taking memory. A diamond is also very loosely related to a warning, thus the user needs to remember what it means in this context, which is not good. Everyday standards should be used for faster perception, as one already knows what they relate to.

Just updated them, they are now rounded to match rounded style gameplay and colour filled for easier recognition (no more outline style, like a legit shape with black dot in middle)

Since I'm so tired I can't test this properly now so I'll come back later

REFERENCE TO SUGGESTED STUFF:

REPLY TO THE MASSIVE ESSAYS
You might want to open this and the previous page in two windows so you can refer between them.

Will the idea be implemented?
- deny / neutral [removed]
+ accept
= think and experiment - may not appear
# accept, low priority
[?] - have looked into
FINISHED SUGGESTED FIXES AND ADDITIONS FROM COMMUNITY:
Found out that 'sc' is not misaligned
#Enclosed the back button into a box and labeled it 'SEL' in ranking screen. Looks alright.. //PATCH FOR 21:9 and 16:9. 16:10 OK

CONSIDERED WIP / WILL DO SUGGESTED FIXES AND ADDITIONS FROM COMMUNITY:[notice]
Add scoreboard numbers
Polish more vibrant combo colours
Sky miss in the works. Animation being worked on.

TheMadCharles
Select
= SS song cards are misaligned. I'll try fix, but last time i realised the thumbnail actually moves down about 2 px when clicked onto

Gameplay
= Miss is based on sky, but its edited. I find bigger miss elements more alerting and make me fix myself up faster, but might add options.
# Reverse arrows are a good idea.
= Dots are included, Bigger numbers were a distraction when prototyped.
= Numbered hitbursts conflict with the circle numbers. They also take longer for your brain to read
+ Havent skinned leaderboard numbers yet. Will do.
= All green combo colours make it hard to look for the next circle after a colour combo. (edit: I gonna try change them to more vibrant ones)

Ranking
[=] I'll look into the "SC" alignment. Could be an illusion tho. [RESOLVED↑]
[=] Havent tried labelling back button on song select, but i'll see how it turns out
Firinael
= hard to fix… “SS song cards are misaligned. I'll try fix, but last time i realised the thumbnail actually moves down about 2 px when clicked onto”
- Back button doesn’t have a mouse over image. It cant react to mouse over. Blue line above back is actually from the mode image. The song select is a complicated structure.
- —
= “Miss is based on sky, but its edited. I find bigger miss elements more alerting and make me fix myself up faster, but might add options.”
= Yes, thanks. Bigger dots and numbers also looked weird during prototyping.
= Hitbursts were trouble for me too. I found it hard to balance visibility, concentration and the time the mind takes to read it. Bigger dots were too vibrant, smaller dots were hard to see and left you trying to see them instead of playing, and, numbers conflict with the circle numbers subconsciously.
- —
[=] “I'll look into the "SC" alignment. Could be an illusion tho.” [RESOLVED↑]
- —
= Blue line is misaligned and discoloured because its actually part of the mode image. I’ll try align it again, but i had alot of trouble doing that.
=# I’ll see into the followpoints… but do you have any more detail on the problem? I’ll try the new hit circle as a low priority.


Check back soon for more news!


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h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
Nice! Also, if you are doing those hitbursts, keep the old ones in extras plz
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Of course!
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Hello! just a quick bump...

I need some extra help and opinions on the hit bursts... Any suggestions? They would be really helpful!
See the post above to see my notes.'

Not to mention, the spinner too... no help lately
rabbiteeth
3 posts
Joined January 2017
rabbiteeth
Bit hard for me to see this as being a pro skin, considering all the effects and distracting lights and such. Though, I'd say the skin's really great for more casual players! It looks really good so far! Cant wait to see the other colors come out, haha. Good work, dude.

(also, sorry if i'm using the forum wrong or something. Not used to this. )

Edit: Just wanted to add that I really like your skins and such!
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Thanks,

Which parts are too distracting? I know the miss is, but anything else? and no, you're not using the wrong forum. don't worry about that ;)

Thanks for the like!
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
hitbursts, huh? Good for colorblindness I guess cuz each type has a single shape. I don't like having 100 and 100k as 2 separate sprites. For me is distracting cuz when I have this I focus on where did I shot a 100k instead of gameplay. And I'd rather swap dots in normal's and katu's

While I'm here, for the spinner, try to integrate the- no wait, you already done that... and you don't want old-style spinner... I'm pretty sure making a glow is the only thing that you can do IMO

EDIT1 Just looked at mania, that scorebar is waaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooo high... like, it's outta there!
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-

TheMadCharles wrote:

hitbursts, huh? Good for colorblindness I guess cuz each type has a single shape. I don't like having 100 and 100k as 2 separate sprites. For me is distracting cuz when I have this I focus on where did I shot a 100k instead of gameplay. And I'd rather swap dots in normal's and katu's

While I'm here, for the spinner, try to integrate the- no wait, you already done that... and you don't want old-style spinner... I'm pretty sure making a glow is the only thing that you can do IMO

EDIT1 Just looked at mania, that scorebar is waaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooo high... like, it's outta there!
Well yeh... thanks for the opinion

but imo the different shapes are annoying. (see my paragraph of stuff under the new mockups images)

btw screenshot mania lifebar? it doesn't look too far off.. its just under the acc numbers for me. *and mania not skinned yet

And finally, thanks for trying to help the spinner! i might just need to leave that as-is
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------UPDATE b23-4 IS HERE!-------------------


WARNING
This is a fairly stable developer update for feedback purposes, I haven't fixed much problems that the community have found yet and some may still persist, the setup and preferences folder may not work as fluently too, but it's stable enough to use as a proper skin so should be all G.
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
Right before I opened the skin folder...
first of all, eww, Fade In
and second, where did the customization folder go?
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-

TheMadCharles wrote:

Right before I opened the skin folder...
first of all, eww, Fade In
and second, where did the customization folder go?
ummm Explain further? i dont get it

and i'm pretty sure customisation folder is still thereoh wait, it isn't... rip

ok fix coming soon, but what do you mean by fade in?
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles

-yuo- wrote:

ok fix coming soon, but what do you mean by fade in?
It's out of place with the other mod icons
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Oh that, yeh its a placeholder from musicludo.... its there so i know the mod initials...
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------UPDATE b29-4 IS HERE! NOW WITH STANDARD DEFENITION!!-------------------


WARNING
This is a fairly stable developer update for feedback purposes, I haven't fixed much problems that the community have found yet and some may still persist, the setup and preferences folder may not work as fluently too, but it's stable enough to use as a proper skin so should be all G.
29 APR 2017 [b29-4]
  • Disappearing preferences folder has been found. ...it ran away again.... download separately on first post.
    Dormant back sound has been woken up and tuned
    STANDARD DEFENITION IS HERE!

    and no, i'm not trying to release a new version every 23rd and 29th...

.
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
SD!!! FeelsGoodMan

123
456
789

Looking at the first post, I think the color #3 should be purple. Also what are the color codes you plan to use?
Perhaps add another variant of hitbursts - blur out only? that spinning 50 can be distracting
And just got inspired by the skinning competition, maybe somehow cover the osu!cookie with a Nightgate logo?
Eww, another misalignment - ranking title and grade - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7952941
and the same screenshot - there's a little dot in the back button that I don't think there should be

omg more stuff

pause-hover | pause-click-continue/retry/back <-- you should skin those, pretty self-explanatory stuff
it always bothered me how slider ball is the same color as slider border and it's not touching the borders. Possibly a thing that I just got used to
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-

TheMadCharles wrote:

SD!!! FeelsGoodMan
Yassssssssss

123
456
789

Looking at the first post, I think the color #3 should be purple. Also what are the color codes you plan to use?
It is purple... Try viewing on a more higher quality display... as this certain purple is hard for some screens to reproduce properly... most mainstream phone displays are good.
I'm working atm so i'll give the hex codes soon.

Here are the hex codes:
⬛︎#FC2738------⬛︎#FD6C24------⬛︎#FADE4D------⬛︎#2BFDA3------⬛︎#24D3FD------⬛︎#135DFB------⬛︎#6F24FA------⬛︎#FEBAFD------⬛︎#FEEBCF--

Perhaps add another variant of hitbursts - blur out only? that spinning 50 can be distracting
yes, maybe

And just got inspired by the skinning competition, maybe somehow cover the osu!cookie with a Nightgate logo?
ummm i'll try fade it out at the logo, but tbh i kinda like the osu logo beind the 'glass' it looks sleeeek

Eww, another misalignment - ranking title and grade - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7952941
and the same screenshot - there's a little dot in the back button that I don't think there should be
I don't see any of these... maybe circle them in red? - also picked up tiny misalignments around the back button but i'm feeling lazy to fix them..

omg more stuff
ok ok...

pause-hover | pause-click-continue/retry/back <-- you should skin those, pretty self-explanatory stuff
of course! its not done yet!

it always bothered me how slider ball is the same color as slider border and it's not touching the borders. Possibly a thing that I just got used to
yeh, probably a personal pref there
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h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles

-yuo- wrote:

I don't see any of these... maybe circle them in red? - also picked up tiny misalignments around the back button but I'm feeling lazy to fix them...
Look closely - in the ranking title there are 2 lines, right? The bit that the ranking grade has only a single line and it's a tiny bit darker than it should be
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
sigh... does this REALLY matter?

ok, ok, adding to the low priority list....
hoetology
13 posts
Joined March 2017
hoetology
I really admire the aesthetic vibe to it and god the sound effects are astonishing(♥A♥ ). User setup took a while but I mange wait till people start complaining about that.... Can't wait for the other colours to be available--take your time skinning them.
-glug-
174 posts
Joined June 2015
-glug-
this is such a clean skin, it was worth waiting for that time <3







love from Australia!
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-

milkymari wrote:

I really admire the aesthetic vibe to it and god the sound effects are astonishing(♥A♥ ). User setup took a while but I mange wait till people start complaining about that.... Can't wait for the other colours to be available--take your time skinning them.

Dark Light wrote:

this is such a clean skin, it was worth waiting for that time <3
thanks so much for the support!

~yeh, but unfortunately theres no way to automate the setup..... :(




love from Australia!
yassss!
Keiger
328 posts
Joined December 2016
Keiger
my question is, how were you able to center the percent under the scorebar like that? .-.
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles

ItsSurreal wrote:

my question is, how were you able to center the percent under the scorebar like that? .-.
score-percent is a blank rectangle
-yuo-
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Topic Starter
-yuo-

ItsSurreal wrote:

my question is, how were you able to center the percent under the scorebar like that? .-.
And how did I dim the score and acc percent when playing?
And how is the back button on ranking panel different to the normal back button?
And how do I control notification popups?
And how does skinning the top of the song select work?
And how did I seemlessly get rid of that gap separating the ranking title from the ranking panel?

Answer: smart skinning, thinking outside of the image

(tldr the score-percent has a huge block of empty space to its right which pushes the numbers to the center.. As for the rest, figuring them out is more fun!) unfortunately osu hides this certain images that are oversized so that's why you can't see the percent image

soz for the braggg
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
lol

any progress out there m8?
dtnc21
202 posts
Joined February 2008
dtnc21
It kinda feels like the spinner is wobbling a bit. Was that meant to happen?
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-

TheMadCharles wrote:

lol

any progress out there m8?
Yes, did some fixups and mania mods.

Also experimented with some cookie colour changing algorithms, all green (green lol, i mean 'good') so far!

dtnc21 wrote:

It kinda feels like the spinner is wobbling a bit. Was that meant to happen?
Nope, been wanting to fix it for a while




what was wrong with me the day i wrote this... maybe it was just autocorrect
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-Snivy3000-
38 posts
Joined April 2016
-Snivy3000-
cool skin bro, it seems really nice and futuristic, i hope see it soon in various colours. :) :)

Suggestion: i see in Diff mods icons (HR,SD,etc) it shows how many percentage increases the Score Multiplier. But only shows how much increases individually. It might look better if you do it like this for example: Hard Rock instead of show 1.06x show +0.06x or Double Time instead of show 1.12x shows +0.12x
did you understand what i mean?
Scub
704 posts
Joined September 2016
Scub
Very clean gameplay design! Even though I feel like the spacing in ranking letters seem quite off, that's just a minor problem.
Incomp
114 posts
Joined December 2016
Incomp
This skin looks great so far. There are a few things that should get some love, but I can't be bothered to elaborate on them now (on a bus to college). If I remember, I'll try to go into more depth after I'm home. My body is ready for the purple version.

I love how you constantly bring some new aspects into skinning, like the different back buttons or how you skinned the area above the search bar on the song selection screen. Keep it up. Maybe I'll get to review NIGHTGATE too.
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-
REPLIES


-Snivy3000-

-Snivy3000- wrote:

cool skin bro, it seems really nice and futuristic, i hope see it soon in various colours. :) :)
Suggestion: i see in Diff mods icons (HR,SD,etc) it shows how many percentage increases the Score Multiplier. But only shows how much increases individually. It might look better if you do it like this for example: Hard Rock instead of show 1.06x show +0.06x or Double Time instead of show 1.12x shows +0.12x
did you understand what i mean?

Yes, cool idea, but does it match the multiplier logic? e.g. HD, HR, FL, DT = 1.41, but if it's additive then it should equal 1.36

and also it might be confusing to others?? idk...

I fully accept the idea, but how will everyone else accept it? This is why I'm reluctant to add. Maybe i'll add in prefs, labeled 'additive display' or something


ScubDomino

ScubDomino wrote:

Very clean gameplay design! Even though I feel like the spacing in ranking letters seem quite off, that's just a minor problem.

Oh, whats wrong?

I would like to fix it! please tell!


Incomp

Incomp wrote:

This skin looks great so far. There are a few things that should get some love, but I can't be bothered to elaborate on them now (on a bus to college). If I remember, I'll try to go into more depth after I'm home. My body is ready for the purple version.
I love how you constantly bring some new aspects into skinning, like the different back buttons or how you skinned the area above the search bar on the song selection screen. Keep it up. Maybe I'll get to review NIGHTGATE too.


Thanks!! Hope you didn't miss the stop!

My re-colouring methods seem all good to go, so after all this is done, it should be easy to change colour using automation. Looking forward to it!

looking forward to your suggestions!

(and your review :P)


edits don't save after you edit it..........ayer...........
and where are the centre, left, right buttons....sandkfjnbnnmv,mnC,MXZ,MXNZ
anyway heres wat happened before i tried editing the post and it disappeared:


Just found out that i can play online, yayayayayayay!

ANNOUNCEMENT 2!

I've decided to work on all modes. CATCH THE BEAT LOOKING GOOD!



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h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
omg... I did the judgment line first on my personal skin! xDD

And here's my try on CTB lul... and drops are slider balls

ScubDomino... overlaping grades in ranking panel ain't going to look good IMO
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Lel, I CAN READ UR MIND -noh

Nice attempt!

oh, and overlapping grades???

YASSSSSS


Taiko is nearly done! no screenshot, cuz cant be bothered :p

lol I can actually play and read taiko now... first skin that I can actually play taiko with
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h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
umm... 4:3 resolution?

EDIT1: Just noticed in setup, big mode icons in 16-9 and 16-10/21-9 are different... it's black and color instead of transparent and color
I think old mods should get some love too
Default acc... that play-unranked looks out of place IMO
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-
*whats 4:3?* jks, but i don't think this skin can support that cuz there are wideeee elements in it... e.g. lifebar

these don't matter, they still produce the same result as it is additive in osu.

old mods... hmm idk what to do about them...

which one? centred or not?


TAIKO DONE, MANIA IN PROGRESS
*sigh this will take a long time... mania skinning.... so much code....*
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles

-yuo- wrote:

*whats 4:3?* jks, but i don't think this skin can support that cuz there are wideeee elements in it... e.g. lifebar
just make it shorter? I am aware this may take lot of time for all elements btw

-yuo- wrote:

which one? centred or not?
not centered
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-

h3oCharles wrote:

-yuo- wrote:

*whats 4:3?* jks, but i don't think this skin can support that cuz there are wideeee elements in it... e.g. lifebar
just make it shorter? I am aware this may take lot of time for all elements btw
uhmmmmmmm
cbs... probs colours first, but then i would continue to do another skin... no one uses 4:3 riiighttt??? *~*


-yuo- wrote:

which one? centred or not?
not centered[/quote]
ok. will figure something out

MORE SCREENIES



*mania not fully done, as u can see, and i would like to make it more colourful but idk how




*awesome glows seen in catch and osustd have been taken off because they make taiko hard to read. This might be why it doesn't look so 'woah'...**pretty done this one...
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h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
who uses 4:3... well... there might be some ppl out there... and also, ThePooN
dtnc21
202 posts
Joined February 2008
dtnc21
Just wanna get this out there…

…I usually play with standard resolution.
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-

h3oCharles wrote:

who uses 4:3... well... there might be some ppl out there... and also, ThePooN
Ehheheheecbstbh

dtnc21 wrote:

Just wanna get this out there…

…I usually play with standard resolution.
what do you mean?
dtnc21
202 posts
Joined February 2008
dtnc21

-yuo- wrote:

dtnc21 wrote:

Just wanna get this out there…

…I usually play with standard resolution.
what do you mean?
4:3 ratio. It's another name for it.
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-
Sorry, new.ppy.sh was found and banned, I can't use osu on the web at home anymore

dtnc21 wrote:

4:3 ratio. It's another name for it.
Not nessesarily:
Ratio refers to the shape and proportions of the screen
Resolution refers to the amount of pixels in the screen...
These two are diffdrent

But sorry, I'm not planning on making a patch for 4:3 ratio as it is an old standard....
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
Who the hell is blocking your access to these?! It's weird...
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
quick update bump which is rushed

all modes, no sd, developer preview, some items not done, i Got to go cuz in a rush, read download link for better info
radda
31 posts
Joined April 2017
radda
I love this skin so god damn much <333
Pilot S10
33 posts
Joined August 2012
Pilot S10
Really digging this skin- especially the cursor, mod icons, key overlay, spinner, animations, drop shadows... basically everything.

To be nitpicky, I would suggest:
1. Fixing menu-button-background.png. There's a really tiny imperfection in the border (See images below)
screenshots

2. Changing or shortening menuhit.mp3. It gets loud and repetitive when clicking through the menus, and overlaps with the music on maps where you press skip, while barely missing overlap on maps without skip buttons. It also sounds as if the same button is being clicked 2 or more times. Perhaps use menu-play-click.mp3 instead, which is quieter and less annoying.

Otherwise, the thought and detail put into this skin is incredible- it's as if I were playing a different game... I mean, I've never seen a skin with a setup dialog. :o
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
HELLOOO AGAINNNNNNN


i have overcome the web bans! NYIHAHAHAHA (i hope this doesn't get found out... its like plan D already...)
seriously... SOME people can be so strict... *ahem*

so, at least i can reply now, but uploading stuff using this external server hosted in another continent is pretty hard. _ahem windows 8 too_
I think i can get free access every second saturday, but if things get out of hand i'll attempt to use this current connection method.

back to usual buisness... ish...

h3oCharles

h3oCharles wrote:

Who the hell is blocking your access to these?! It's weird...
it is, and its annoying. overly strict people from everywhere.

lxyn

lxyn wrote:

I love this skin so god damn much <333
<3 :D
thanks!

MissUnd3rstood

MissUnd3rstood wrote:

amazing stuff
thanks, glad you Und3rstood how much thought i put into this. its crazy. legit. so it nice having somone know how much stuff you put into stuff. (?)

i did consider your suggestions, They're actually already fixed. There's a small link under the main post under all the images which should download the latest version with all modes kinda done, heaps of fixes and tuning (like your suggestions) and improvements too.


sorry for the delays, life gets you eh?
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------UPDATE b3-5!!! ALL MODES!-------------------


WHATS UP?
all modes. maybe more but i dont remember...
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nat2011
138 posts
Joined April 2011
nat2011
how to setup this skin to work properly especially the screen ratio
Nightblade
76 posts
Joined August 2015
Nightblade
Um how do I install it? it is telling me to move files or something, no idea what I am supposed to do. It told me to contact you.
Pilot S10
33 posts
Joined August 2012
Pilot S10

nat2011 wrote:

how to setup this skin to work properly especially the screen ratio

Nightblade wrote:

Um how do I install it? it is telling me to move files or something, no idea what I am supposed to do. It told me to contact you.
1. Get to the setup folder in the skin folder. Open osu! folder > Skins >" +-NGHTGT GRN[b3-5]+" > "1- Setup"
2. Determine your aspect ratio. For example, if your screen resolution is 1920x1080, then your aspect ratio is 16:9. Otherwise if you don't know, use the guides in the folder "IDontKnowMyScreenRatio" to find out.
3. Copy the skin elements for your screen ratio. Back in the Setup folder, open the folder pertaining to your aspect ratio found in step 2. So if your aspect ratio was 16:9, copy the images to the folder "for 16-9 screens" to "+-NGHTGT GRN[b3-5]+". If you're doing this correctly, you should get a dialog asking you to replace files.
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-
Thanks for that MissUnd3rstood,

an image tutorial will be available soon
nat2011
138 posts
Joined April 2011
nat2011
i did it like u told me but it still shows a message this skin has not been set up
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
AAH! ITS A BUG!

Oh dear, just checked and i forgot to convert the folders to Standard Defenition.

Are you using standard defenition or high defenition?

because standard defenition probably won't setup properly with this bug.


I will work on squishing this bug, and i'm running out of time too...
hopefully tomorrow there will be a fix. =>
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles

MissUnd3rstood wrote:

nat2011 wrote:

how to setup this skin to work properly especially the screen ratio

Nightblade wrote:

Um how do I install it? it is telling me to move files or something, no idea what I am supposed to do. It told me to contact you.
1. Get to the setup folder in the skin folder. Open osu! folder > Skins >" +-NGHTGT GRN[b3-5]+" > "1- Setup"
2. Determine your aspect ratio. For example, if your screen resolution is 1920x1080, then your aspect ratio is 16:9. Otherwise if you don't know, use the guides in the folder "IDontKnowMyScreenRatio" to find out.
3. Copy the skin elements for your screen ratio. Back in the Setup folder, open the folder pertaining to your aspect ratio found in step 2. So if your aspect ratio was 16:9, copy the images to the folder "for 16-9 screens" to "+-NGHTGT GRN[b3-5]+". If you're doing this correctly, you should get a dialog asking you to replace files.
CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S <-- make sure to reload the skin as well

EDIT1: Ummm... go look at 1st post on Compatability... that's an error

oh, and scorebar-bg ain't SD
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-
Do note that there is now a tutorial that goes through how to set it up on the 1st post now. Under the downloads inside a spoilerbox.

but still, it's broken for SD. Fixing soon.
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------UPDATE b5-5, bugfix-------------------


WHATS UP?
**SIGHHH**
that big bug in the setup folder rendering the whole skin unusable for standard defenition has been removed.
also fixed up the lifebar background for SD users while i was at it.

The prefs folder isnt converted to SD yet though, will do once new elements come into there.


also,

Looking for suggestions on what to do for:
- mania hitbursts, because the one being used right now is very good with readability but its not original cuz its from VOEZ skin.
- Any more prefs ideas?

to do prefs:
mania judgement laser off
catch judgement laser off
'pattern' hitcircle colour
choice of reverse arrows
edit 'unranked' sprite when displayed on the side of the screen
anymore i missed?
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
Big Numbers, please >_<
Alysia_old_1
243 posts
Joined April 2016
Alysia_old_1
Beautiful! I can't wait for lilac/pink/purple
Alysia_old_1
243 posts
Joined April 2016
Alysia_old_1
Also if you could add support for other screen sized (mine has the height of 16:10 and width of 21:9
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
big numbers, ok

lilac? whats this? nvm, found out its a colour, lol

and i cant really make ratios unless i have a monitor with that ratio, sorry...

*Just realised, the 21:9 ratio should work well. the elements dont really need vertical alignment, only alignment on the horizontal side. Try this and tell me how it goes...
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
Will Nightgate be ready to be finalized? Considering that (in my opinion) it is an art skin, I'm gonna have to use my own hitsound set and use Audacity for loads of fade outs for these interface sounds.

To be honest, clear out your entire todo list and then we can go.

EDIT1: Maybe more cursors? That dotted trail is distracting me, I'd rather have a solid long trail or no trail at all.
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-
yeh,of course I will finish off the to-do list

and i'll add short menu sounds and cursor trail options while at it based on your suggestions too

I already have an inverted cursor, white with black outline too.
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
owo

HYYYYYPEEEE!!! lol

EDIT1: oh... and yea, I also mean the low priority stuff, UI misalignments and such
dtnc21
202 posts
Joined February 2008
dtnc21
…Erm, the download link is broken.
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Orangedox has updated their services.

New UI, more features, and less free link shares. RIP.
I'll need to switch to a different service, which might take some time. I'm also working on alot right now which means more time.

I'll be back soon for more.


(this might also affect all my skins)
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Seems i accidently broke nightgate skin somehow

Reassembling from backups. Possible update with new stuff too while i'm at it
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
NIGHTGATE is back up!

Now using rebrandly for download counting. Check em out! (i'm not paid lol)

getting used to this new system...
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
aaand again, Setup and some preferences are borken... RIP

It bothered me all the time, I think the main color of the skin shouldn't be a combo color as well

More Requests:

Cursors: no trail, no expanding glow <-- I just did that and wow, it removed a lot of "weight" for me... so phycological
and what about short trails?

Cursor smoke: smooth line, dark[?], small/med/big

Scorebar with a playfield box/lines* <-- this might be pretty hard for 21:9

More Slider Follow Circles... other than that glow, also color ring, white ring, none, small/med/big**, transparent?
Follow Points maybe?
Slider balls... filled to the borders, white ring, color ring

Geez, remove these shadows >_< I know this is a nice gimmick, but I can't read old-style stacks (Scatman)

Dark score numbers... weird one, I know

Just looked at Taiko, some elements aren't properly scaled
same with mania, but lightingN only

*The way you do that - make a 128x128 pure white square hitcircle, go to editor and put 4 of them to all corners on the same timestamp. Then let AT play and make a screenshot before AT hits them. Open that screenshot in the image editor and you can make a border outside of them but crop out 10px from top of the box you're going to make. Hope this helped lol

** Take a look at Rafis' and Piggey's skin, their follow circs are ending very close to the slider bodies, removing clutter from the playfield. Keep in mind, they are mostly speed players.

I wish I could live chat with you :/
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-
I've checked it, and it seems fine (apart for some MACOSX tagging files, which shouldnt affect anythyng.)

I'll take these options into consideration (most likley makeing them if i'm not feeling lazy for those harder ones)

and sure, I usually have my IRC client on so just ping me there.
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
[quote="-yuo-"]
-------------------UPDATE b21-6, bugfix-------------------


Fixed an error for SD users where the 'setup skin' warning would not dissappear when setup has finished.
nothing else.
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
Progress update plz
RokkaAstrea
98 posts
Joined July 2016
RokkaAstrea
Holy mother of creation
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-

h3oCharles wrote:

Progress update plz
Not much latley, been quite busy.

Centered mania for 16:10.
Option to turn extended judment line off for mania
thats it.
:(

RokkaAstrea wrote:

Holy mother of creation
hello.


XD
thanks!
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blobdash
912 posts
Joined April 2016
blobdash
Really good skin.
There's a few things you could improve :
- When releasing, remove the .DS_store files by editing the .osk with a Zip application. They are just useless.
- add 4:3 plz
- Mania lightings are really distracting. I would reduce the opacity to ~25%.
- Hello
2 posts
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- Hello
Rip dropbox Ye XD
Endi_old_1
1 post
Joined March 2017
Endi_old_1
The download button doesn't work :( fix it as soon as possible im hyped to use it :P
deethveely
4 posts
Joined November 2016
deethveely
I can't download it :cry: :cry: :cry:
Lunicia
328 posts
Joined May 2014
Lunicia
fix download plz
YellowAlpaca
4 posts
Joined June 2016
YellowAlpaca
that's awesome skin,but download link is dead ;;
h3oCharles
1,510 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles

FruityEnLoops wrote:

- When releasing, remove the .DS_store files by editing the .osk with a Zip application. They are just useless.
These are macOS files, they cannot be removed in mac

and yes indeed, download link is down... too bad I didn't make any backups :/
^ download link should be available tomorrow - according to the time of posting this

also, here's a review from skins! channel
blobdash
912 posts
Joined April 2016
blobdash

h3oCharles wrote:

FruityEnLoops wrote:

- When releasing, remove the .DS_store files by editing the .osk with a Zip application. They are just useless.
These are macOS files, they cannot be removed in mac

and yes indeed, download link is down... too bad I didn't make any backups :/
^ download link should be available tomorrow - according to the time of posting this

also, here's a review from skins! channel
You can, as I said use something like 7zip or any equivalent for Mac AFTER making the osk and you should be able to see them and delete them.
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