snowball112 wrote:

Heya, random mod.

General

1. Sliders at this bpm have the ticks at 1/8. You should remove all sliders across your diffs and replace them with notes as the music doesn't really call for 1/8 usage. The beginning for example up to 00:01:817 - could use a spinner in the lower diffs to be more beginner-friendly.
2. Your diffs appear a bit too complex imo in terms of rhythym and spacings.
3. K/F/M all need higher hp, suggest 7/6/5 respectively.
4. Change K/F SV to 1.4^
5. Remove SV changes from lower diffs, I think it's fine if you just use them in Oni and Inner Oni.

Vulkin's Kantan
Too long patterns and not enough breaks for a kantan, the chain from 00:40:792 especially needs some spacings. And this diff needs some breaks overall, even though bpm is low.

1. Suggest you try something like this for the beginning section, cursor on 00:10:023 to have 2 rest moments in this section. I think this would be fine to help beginners read the different spacing here.
2. You may want to consider using 1/1 doubles instead of triples in the calm part from 00:19:254 and remove notes like 00:21:305. Similar with:
   
   1. 00:23:356 ^
   2. 00:29:510 ^ etc.
3. 00:54:126 suggests you're following vocal, but placement is not correct as the vocal lands on the blue tick. Either move 00:54:126 to 00:53:997 for vocal or to 00:54:638 and change 00:54:382 (90,91) to d for the instrument.
4. 01:10:792 - d, see ^
5. 00:56:946 - remove and move 00:58:485 to 00:59:510 and d? Would be better for breaks.

Futsuu

1. I think 00:45:921 - this pattern could be nerfed a bit
2. 00:56:691 - remove? nicer for instrument emphasis imo.
3. Why are you following the main instrument at 00:12:588 and drums right before at 00:02:330 in the same section? I think you should try to be consistent in what you follow until 00:17:972.
4. 00:18:741 - this part could use a finish for transition.
5. 00:52:331 (122,123) ctrl+g, the first two notes match together better this way.
6. you could simplify the part from 00:55:664 as bit. Maybe try something like this, cursor on 00:58:486. I think simpler patterns like this would work well.
7. 01:16:049 - delete, too hard for futsuu.

Muzukashii
This diff has too complex patterns, you can't really expect muzu players to play that many multicoloured 1/4 patterns.

1. 00:01:817 - patterns up to here would be great for a lead-in in the oni, but for muzu I suggest you simplify this part:
   
   1. 00:00:407 - remove
   2. 00:00:664 ^
   3. 00:00:921 (5,6) - ^
2. 00:10:023 - 1/4 d triple and 00:10:536 - finish
3. 00:55:151 - this should definitely be a k for the strong clap.
4. I suggest you remove notes like 00:57:460 to give emphasis to the strong instruments sounds beforehand, just like you did at 01:01:306.
5. 01:04:127 - remove, similar to ^.
6. Try to have 01:07:972 stand alone as a finish and have some larger spacings beyond this point, this part feels too densely mapped otherwise. I suggest you use the two strong instrument sounds like ^ to set up short breaks.

Oni

1. You should move the note from 00:18:677 to 00:17:908 or so, would be nicer if 00:18:742 has a finish.
2. 00:25:921 - the instrument you're mapping is so soft, why not remove:
   
   1. 00:26:049 -
   2. 00:26:562 -
   3. 00:26:882 -
   This part is relatively calm, so I think lower note density works better.
3. I think something like this, cursor on 00:53:613 could work nicely here. Because there is no sound on 00:53:485 and to follow the drums better.
4. For the next part, maybe try something like this, cursor on 00:57:715 to follow the drums more closely. You may need to save some of the longer patterns and the sparing use of 1/8 for inner oni though, so you could also remove the notes from 00:58:870 and 00:59:126 here.

Inner Oni

1. 00:09:638 - I don't think this stream is a good idea. This part is calm.
2. Same with 00:17:844 and the others. I think stuff like 00:00:921 (5,6,7) is fine because it has support with the drum, but the long 1/8 does not feel fitting. This song is calm, and it creates a really weird contrast to the rest of the map. Just nerf the pattern length in oni a bit and have the long 1/4 patterns mixed with some 1/8 drum here.

It depends on what you do with the rest of the set on whether this diff fits, If you nerf the other diffs like suggested the set could still support this inner even without the long 1/8 and still not be too similar to oni.

I think you can nerf all the diffs a bit, patterns are a bit complex for futsuu and muzu especially, and kantan needs some larger breaks.

Good luck

OSUjanaiKATSURAda wrote:

Hi Wfraction nice song/anime a Mod

General

1. Get rid of Sv changes in Kantan/Futsuu as its confusing for this level will cause an accuracy drop for new players excellent point

Kantan

00:10:023 (13) - drag this to 00:09:767 - as it gives more representation to that part00:15:151 (20) - remove then add a don here 00:15:921 - 00:20:280 (26) - don00:20:792 - add a don here as it emphasis consistency with these triples/part 00:18:228 (23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - 00:25:921 (32) - drag this to the previous red tick sounds better00:33:613 (42) - ^ the next red tick00:35:664 (45) - move it to 00:36:177 - and change it todon00:37:715 (47) - drag to 00:37:203 - plays better fitting vocal/instruments00:37:715 - to 00:40:280 - feel this not fitting u may like to fill the blank00:44:382 (53) - kat00:45:408 (55) - drag it to 00:45:921 - as its needed imo more in that strong beat00:50:023 (61,62) - d00:56:433 - add a d01:03:356 (78) - d01:20:792 (101) - drag to next red tick01:25:664 (107) - change to d01:27:972 (108) - move it to previous red tick sounds better00:50:023 (61,62) - d

futsuu

00:01:562 (5) - change it to k i actually changed that beginning part to a spinner for the Futsuu and Muzu now00:04:895 (13) - drag to 00:04:767 - as the sound is more rhythmic here i'm sorry but i didnt change any of those as it didn't really match what i was mapping to 00:08:997 (23) - ^00:13:100 (32) - ^00:17:203 (42) - ^00:25:408 (58) - to don maybe the clapping is very prominent here00:25:664 - add kat ok00:57:204 (129) - change it to kat as it will offer better consistency with 00:58:228 (131,132) - alrighty01:01:306 (140) - don maybe no change01:06:947 (154) - remove then add a don sure01:26:946 (207) - maybe remove but add a don here plays better imo was already a don01:28:228 (211) - remove ok

muzukashii

00:06:305 (22) - remove not fitting and no beat there ok00:07:074 - adding a circle kat or don plys better no change00:34:382 (110) - change to kat i hear nothing that could make me change to a kat. sorry00:41:049 - add a kat here emphasised with the coming 1/2 pattern i added00:41:049 - remove i think you meant 00:41:305 (130) - but no change01:04:896 (221,222,223) - change this to kats sure but it means changing this 01:13:100 (251,252,253) - too

inner oni

00:14:382 - fill it with a kat sounds weird as a blank OK, had to add one here 00:06:177 (34) - 01:20:921 (385) - remove yea i see that

well Done Hope it Helped ( Goodluck ) Thanks!

OSUjanaiKATSURAda wrote:

Hi Wfraction nice song/anime a Mod

General

[list][*]Get rid of Sv changes in Kantan/Futsuu as its confusing for this level will cause an accuracy drop for new players done

Kantan

[*]00:10:023 (13) - drag this to 00:09:767 - as it gives more representation to that part Doesnt sound right to me, so no
[*]00:15:151 (20) - remove then add a don here 00:15:921 - ok
[*]00:20:280 (26) - don nope because of consistency
[*]00:20:792 - add a don here as it emphasis consistency with these triples/part 00:18:228 (23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - ok
[*]00:25:921 (32) - drag this to the previous red tick sounds better ok
[*]00:33:613 (42) - ^ the next red tick ok
[*]00:35:664 (45) - move it to 00:36:177 - and change it todon im focusing on the claps so no
[*]00:37:715 (47) - drag to 00:37:203 - plays better fitting vocal/instruments ^
[*]00:37:715 - to 00:40:280 - feel this not fitting u may like to fill the blank yup
[*]00:44:382 (53) - kat ok
[*]00:45:408 (55) - drag it to 00:45:921 - as its needed imo more in that strong beat nah, dragging 00:47:972 (59) - to 00:47:459 - instead and making it d
[*]00:50:023 (61,62) - d putting spinner instead so sorry
[*]00:56:433 - add a d ok
[*]01:03:356 (78) - d ok
[*]01:20:792 (101) - drag to next red tick
[*]01:25:664 (107) - change to d
[*]01:27:972 (108) - move it to previous red tick sounds better doesnt for me sorry ;W;
[*]00:50:023 (61,62) - d o again lol

well Done Hope it Helped ( Goodluck )

1. 00:00:921 - I see why the 1/8 is here but it is not really necessary, especially because 1/8 is only used five times in the entire map. Simplify it or remove it.
2. 00:01:690 - The 1/8 here is not relevant. You should simplify this.
3. 00:05:408 - These quads don't sound very matching to the song. I recommend changing this to ddk kkd d.
4. 00:10:151 - There shouldn't be 1/8's at all, because the 1/8's you mapped are not the prominent rhythms in the map.
5. 00:13:613 - Refer to comment #3.
6. 00:18:356 - Refer to comment #4.
7. 00:49:510 - Refer to comment #4.
8. 00:54:382 - You were following vocal patterns here, but you skipped this vocal and started a pattern on the blue tick after it. I'd move that note to the red tick.
9. 01:02:587 - ^^
10. 01:10:792 - ^^^
11. 01:12:074 - For consistency reasons, this should also be a kat.
12. 01:18:997 - Back to the vocal pattern issue.
13. 01:24:382 - The kiai should end here, not at 01:24:895 because this at :382 the last vocal of the kiai is spoken.

Taikocracy wrote:

NM on my queue

[Inner Oni]

1. 00:00:921 - I see why the 1/8 is here but it is not really necessary, especially because 1/8 is only used five times in the entire map. Simplify it or remove it.
2. 00:01:690 - The 1/8 here is not relevant. You should simplify this.
3. 00:05:408 - These quads don't sound very matching to the song. I recommend changing this to ddk kkd d.
4. 00:10:151 - There shouldn't be 1/8's at all, because the 1/8's you mapped are not the prominent rhythms in the map.
5. 00:13:613 - Refer to comment #3.
6. 00:18:356 - Refer to comment #4.
7. 00:49:510 - Refer to comment #4.
8. 00:54:382 - You were following vocal patterns here, but you skipped this vocal and started a pattern on the blue tick after it. I'd move that note to the red tick.
9. 01:02:587 - ^^
10. 01:10:792 - ^^^
11. 01:12:074 - For consistency reasons, this should also be a kat.
12. 01:18:997 - Back to the vocal pattern issue.
13. 01:24:382 - The kiai should end here, not at 01:24:895 because this at :382 the last vocal of the kiai is spoken.

Good luck with the ranking process Thanks a lot for the mod bro. Tbh I actually hated my Oni difficulty so i pretty much took out all the 1/8th patterns and removed my oni. I then renamed this Inner Oni to Oni.

n1doking wrote:

NM for futsuu and muzu as requested

Futsuu

00:04:382 (5,6) - remove finisher status as it ruins the emphasizing of the 3/4 synth here. same would go for 00:12:587 (23,24) -

00:46:433 (92) - delete this note to have a proper buildup for the 1/2 triples after it and to fit the drums and vocals better

00:53:997 (110) - remove finisher status to emphasize the S's in S.O.S. same would go for 01:10:408 (150) -

01:02:203 (130) - same idea as above ^. same would go for 01:18:613 (170) -

01:13:614 (158) - change to k to remain consistent with 00:57:204 (118) -

Muzukashii

remove finisher status on the following notes for better emphasis on three notes after:
00:03:997 (6) -
00:12:203 (38) -
00:53:228 (157) -
01:01:433 (183) -
01:09:255 (210) -
01:17:844 (241) -
01:26:049 (270) -

01:28:485 (280) - delete note as there's really nothing much to end on here

apart from finishers, i couldn't really find much to comment on

good luck on your map! thanks a lot for the mod man!

Midnaait wrote:

Hey, mod req
// = Suggestion

[General]

// I'd say to increase HP by 1 to all diffs, since hardest diff has a bit more than 400 notes, and with HP 5 is too easy to pass (You can pass with 50% acc lol)
Have a better BG since current one has weird black sides: http://puu.sh/uobxu/24adafdf53.jpg
If you change, please change BG coordinates to 0,-100 on all .osu files

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Udon world.jpg",0,-100

Remove "Anime" tag, You don't need it as it's listed as a genre when it gets qualified

[Futsuu]

There's a lack of 2/1 breaks in this diff for recovery, so I'll suggest some down below

00:11:049 - Delete for a 2/1 break? seems necessary imo
00:35:664 - ^^^ Also emphasizes the previous finish
00:37:715 - If you did the thing above, move this note to 00:37:203 - since there is voice, and change it to don
00:43:869 - Delete, same reason as second suggestion
00:58:997 - ^^^
01:08:485 - ^^^
01:15:408 - ^^^
01:28:485 - Change to d? there is no percussion and the piano sound is low

[Muzukashii]

00:05:664 (11,12) - Ctrl+g? Clap sound on the second note
00:38:997 - Having a 6 note pattern seems weird here, delete this note?
00:46:433 - Shorten this pattern by deleting this, seems appropiate for this part of the song
- From 00:51:562 - 00:55:151 - (And Similar) Structure of these patterns are really awkward, I'd change it a bit, something like this:

00:59:767 - ^^^
01:07:972 - ^^^
01:16:177 - y'know :^)
01:28:356 - Move it 1/4 to the right and change it to don for that piano sound, current 4plet sounds a bit off

[Oni]

// idk if finisher patterns seem appropiate for an Oni of this difficulty

00:10:408 - // I suggest deleting this note so you separate the finish of the pattern
00:18:741 - // Remove finisher since it goes a bit quiet after, or delete previous note
00:38:997 - Change to k to follow voice better?
00:43:356 - // Remove finisher and delete 00:43:613 - for a little break
00:45:664 - Delete for a break, they were semi consistent back then, so you should do it for a bit more consistency
00:48:485 - ^ only thing i didnt change up was this
00:50:408 (208,209) - Ctrl+G? Voice goes lower in the second note
00:59:638 - // Same as first suggestion
01:07:844 - // ^
01:16:049 - // ^

Not much to say besides the finisher patterns, plays good enough

Good luck

Midnaait wrote:

Hey, mod req

[Vulkin's Kantan]

01:24:382 - El kiai termina aqui en las otras diffs, cambialo pls ok

00:26:433 - Creo que sería mejor que borres esta nota, así creas un break decente ok
00:34:638 - ^ ok
00:55:151 - Deberias borrar las notas que andan en esta parte cada 8/1 en mi opinion, hay falta de breaks 2/1. (Por ejemplo 00:59:254 - 01:03:356 - etc...) OK
01:16:690 - Borra esto para enfatizar el finish lol ok
01:24:895 - ^ ok
01:21:049 - Borra para enfatizar la melodia ok

Good luck ok-- i mean thank you <3

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1. 00:17:587 (57) - delete. ( 00:16:691 (52) - ~ 00:18:741 (63) - High density. )
   
   
2. 00:25:280 (77,78) - swap. ( follow Vocal , 00:25:408 - It sounds high here but,00:25:280 - It's not here. )
   
   
3. 00:33:485 (93,94) - ^
   
   
4. 01:24:895 - Silder velocity x1.20 plz. ( Oni : 00:51:562 - ~ x1.20 )

1. 00:41:818 (167) - 00:42:331 (169) - swap ? ( follow piano sounds. :3 )
   
   
2. 00:47:331 (188) - delete. or 00:47:459 (189) - delete finish.
   
   
3. 01:16:049 (327) - delete or 01:16:177 (328) - delete finish.
   
   
4. 01:28:485 (389) - delete ? ( not sound. )

toara_fict wrote:

#modreqs

[ Muzukashii]

1. 00:17:587 (57) - delete. ( 00:16:691 (52) - ~ 00:18:741 (63) - High density. )
   
   
2. 00:25:280 (77,78) - swap. ( follow Vocal , 00:25:408 - It sounds high here but,00:25:280 - It's not here. )
   
   
3. 00:33:485 (93,94) - ^
   
   
4. 01:24:895 - Silder velocity x1.20 plz. ( Oni : 00:51:562 - ~ x1.20 )

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[ Oni]

1. 00:41:818 (167) - 00:42:331 (169) - swap ? ( follow piano sounds. :3 )
   
   
2. 00:47:331 (188) - delete. or 00:47:459 (189) - delete finish.
   
   
3. 01:16:049 (327) - delete or 01:16:177 (328) - delete finish.
   
   
4. 01:28:485 (389) - delete ? ( not sound. )this is about the only thing i didn't change cuz there's a piano tone right at the end. Plus it matches the timing on all other diffs.

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Nice mapset :3 Good Luck.

TYVM for the rather quick mod.

ComfyWolf wrote:

M O D T I M E
M4M

Suggestions
Normal
Unrankable

Kantan

00:53:997 - Since this is a really groovy moment, I feel that not putting a k here may be a bit of a tease but it's fine really.
00:57:715 (77) - I feel like you should make this note a k for a nice kkkk pattern.[/color]
01:02:203 - Same as 00:53:997.
01:10:408 - ^
01:14:125 (104) - Same as 00:57:715 (77). i made the necessary changes
01:18:613 - Same as 00:53:997.
01:26:818 - Same as 00:53:997.

Futsuu

00:10:023 (17,18,19) - Maybe make this a kd?[/color]
00:18:228 (34) - Make this a for a better sounding groove?[/color]
00:52:075 (101,102,103) - Make this a kk pattern for better groove?[/color]
01:00:792 (121,122,123) - ^
01:08:997 (140,141,142) - ^
01:16:690 (158,159,160) - ^ i changed all those patterns to kdk, cuz yea it plays a lot better imo

Muzukashii

Wow... this is perfect! Amazing diff! thanks a lot

Oni

00:38:485 (149,150) - Swap these two for k instead of d k?[/color]

Another amazing diff! thanks once again

Solid map man. Good luck on the rank!

_yu68 wrote:

Hello.

mod

[General]

1. Please uncheck Widescreen Support in Kantan.

[Kantan]

1. 00:06:946 (7) - delete? I think it's hard for beginner players.(or, 00:05:920 (5) - delete if a difference from the previous pattern is necessary)
2. 00:15:151 (18) - ^
3. 01:24:895 (122) - ^
4. 00:42:844 (53) - delete? I feel 1/1 is too many.
5. 00:50:280 (65) - delete? BPM is low but I think the 1/2 pattern is too hard for beginner players.
6. 00:56:177 (75) - move to 00:56:690 - ? In order to make more simply rhythm for beginner players.
7. 01:12:587 (102) - ^
8. 00:59:254 (80) - delete and 01:00:280 - 01:00:792 - add k? It's same rhythm of vocal as 00:51:562 (67,68,69,70) - .
9. 01:15:664 (107) - 01:16:690 - 01:17:203 - ^
10. 01:06:946 (91,92,93) - delete? I think density is too high.
11. 01:23:356 (118,119,120) - ^

[Futsuu]

1. 00:07:715 (12) - move to 00:07:459 - , 00:08:997 (15) - move to 00:08:869 - , and 00:09:510 (16) - move to 00:09:254 - ? It's same rhythm as 00:02:331 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - .
2. 00:15:920 (29) - 00:17:202 (32) - 00:17:715 (33) - ^

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:08:741 (21,22) - delete and 00:08:869 - add k? Same reason as Futsuu.
2. 00:16:947 (50,51) - 00:17:074 - ^
3. 00:55:921 (156) - move to 00:56:433 - ? In order to fit to vocal.

[Oni]

1. 00:08:869 (39,40) - ctrl+g? It will be able to emphasize melody and drum.
2. 00:44:126 (170) - change to k? I think it match a difference from 00:44:382 - of pitch.

Good luck~

thzz wrote:

a little irc

2017-05-04 10:06 thzz: do you have time for now?
2017-05-04 10:06 World Fraction: yup
2017-05-04 10:06 thzz: i have some things to tell you and that's enough for now
2017-05-04 10:06 thzz: ok
2017-05-04 10:07 thzz: 00:18:486 (83,84,85) - i know you tried to follow the song correctry but
2017-05-04 10:07 thzz: it's difficult pattern and seems weird considering the atmosphere of this song
2017-05-04 10:07 thzz: so you must avoid it
2017-05-04 10:08 World Fraction: oh the finisher? yea i've always debated that specific one
2017-05-04 10:08 World Fraction: been kind of a back and forth with people saying its fine and others saying it isn't
2017-05-04 10:09 World Fraction: same with this one 00:43:100 (166,167,168) - but its much louder
2017-05-04 10:10 thzz: i see, and i understood you take same pattern on that
2017-05-04 10:11 thzz: in osu!Taiko, the pattern which put finisher on tails of 1/4 has special meaning
2017-05-04 10:12 World Fraction: mhmm
2017-05-04 10:12 thzz: whether it's fine or not are decided by how the song is intence
2017-05-04 10:12 thzz: and this song is calm one
2017-05-04 10:13 World Fraction: thats very true. i actualy used to have an inner oni when this set was first started
2017-05-04 10:13 World Fraction: i mapped 1/8ths lol
2017-05-04 10:14 thzz: just this pattern is enough http://puu.sh/vERpM/a905f40012.jpg
2017-05-04 10:14 thzz: lolol
2017-05-04 10:14 thzz: (00:18:485 - )
2017-05-04 10:14 World Fraction: ok
2017-05-04 10:15 thzz: good, then next
2017-05-04 10:15 thzz: 00:51:562 - about this sv change
2017-05-04 10:15 thzz: this is same. increasing sv has special meaning
2017-05-04 10:16 thzz: like key is changing or very yea so very changing on full length song
2017-05-04 10:17 World Fraction: so you think i should get rid of the speed up?
2017-05-04 10:17 thzz: yep, if you need variation of sv considering the song,
2017-05-04 10:17 thzz: 00:19:254 - take 0.8x from here
2017-05-04 10:18 thzz: 00:35:151 - 0.9x
2017-05-04 10:18 thzz: 00:51:562 - and 1..0x
2017-05-04 10:18 thzz: 1.0x
2017-05-04 10:19 World Fraction: ok that's something no one has suggested before and i think i really like that idea
2017-05-04 10:19 thzz: i see, it's fine
2017-05-04 10:19 thzz: overall, your mapping is very neat
2017-05-04 10:19 World Fraction: ty
2017-05-04 10:20 thzz: tho you can find more interesting pattern for this song imo
2017-05-04 10:21 thzz: i dislike your skipping some places like 00:03:997 - 
2017-05-04 10:21 thzz: more doublet would help you i guess
2017-05-04 10:23 thzz: 00:37:715 (146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158) - also this pattern is boring
2017-05-04 10:23 thzz: for me
2017-05-04 10:24 World Fraction: i used to have a d instead here 00:37:972 (147) -
2017-05-04 10:24 World Fraction: do you think changing it back would be better
2017-05-04 10:25 thzz: i meaned
2017-05-04 10:26 thzz: you can devise other rhythm
2017-05-04 10:27 thzz: your pattern is always based on downbeat. it's good to make stable feeling
2017-05-04 10:27 thzz: but it's too normal
2017-05-04 10:28 thzz: same thing is on Kiai
2017-05-04 10:29 thzz: 00:53:228 (208) - http://puu.sh/vES9i/36e8d4f390.jpg
2017-05-04 10:30 thzz: interesting, isn't it?
2017-05-04 10:31 World Fraction: OH
2017-05-04 10:31 World Fraction: that sounds nice
2017-05-04 10:31 thzz: yea,
2017-05-04 10:31 thzz: this song has many good places to be like that
2017-05-04 10:32 thzz: again your map is neat enough
2017-05-04 10:32 thzz: but you can think and devise more
2017-05-04 10:32 thzz: and call me again
2017-05-04 10:32 thzz: you can do it
2017-05-04 10:32 World Fraction: ok
2017-05-04 10:33 thzz: that's all from me for now, i'll post this on the thread :)
2017-05-04 10:33 World Fraction: ok man, thanks
2017-05-04 10:33 thzz: =w=b

Vulkin wrote:

WELP TIME TO MOD
rip my kantan but yours is actually better than mine w

-Kantan-
00:25:408 (29) - Why not following voice? 00:33:869 (39) - does it, would change one of them to either follow voice or rhythm yea i changed this up a bit

-Futsuu-
00:04:382 (5,6,7) - Not sure but wont this be a bit hard for futsuu player?, i mean sure its bpm low but blue line is a bit weird to use, and neither note doesnt seem that strong for a finisher imo, would remove the middle note
00:08:485 (14,15,16) - ^
00:12:587 (22,23,24) - ^
00:16:690 (31,32,33) - ^ Or at least make this monocolour ;_;
00:24:895 (48,49,50) - ^ ^
00:33:100 (63,64,65) - ^ ^
00:53:614 (105,106,107) - ^
01:01:819 (124,125,126) - ^ any of the stuff you pointed out here was either all changed to finishers or not touched

-Muzukashii-
00:00:280 (1) - The difference between this and Oni is a bit too large, would at least put some notes there instead of the spinner i cant figure out what pattern to make here
00:13:613 (37) - Delete? Ruins a bit of consistency at the beginning (00:04:382 (7,8,9) - ) i agree
00:16:691 (47,48,49) - You didnt put finisher on these? derp

-Pi Oni (because 3.14* GET IT?)- LOL
00:00:663 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - I think this would sound better as kdkdkdddk
00:18:741 (86) - would make this d to make difference with 00:19:254 (87) -

good luck on map

World Fraction wrote:

sorry i had to remove your kantan

Stefan wrote:

Bad you've removed Vulkin's difficulty.. :/

[General]
- OD4 for all difficulties except Oni? That doesn't look right to me. What about 4 - 4.5 - 5 - 5.5 (for Oni)?
- HP can also be adjusted for Futsuu at 6 and Muzukashii at 5.
- 01:28:485 - in all honest but if you ask me that really doesn't sounds good.. Of course, it sounds "more" like the end of the song but there is really thing that makes it sound well to have the note(s) here. I'd remove them all from the difficulties.

[Kantan]
00:25:280 (29) - Well, that note shouldn't be here in the Kantan difficulty. Futsuu also provides this note and it's too complicated at all. Take the note and move it to 00:26:946 - .
00:27:459 (32) - Additionally to the previous point you should remove this note so it's consistent with the first loop.
00:33:485 (39) - Remove it simply, 00:35:151 - exist so it's fine for this case.
00:35:151 (43,45,52) - I wouldn't say that these notes need to be kat, I find the difficulty had a clear structure when you use kat sounds and you shouldn't stop from here. I also believe that it won't be too boring if you have four don notes in a row, relating to 00:35:151 (43,44,45,46) - , it's just more obvious that you rather use for the snaps on spots like 00:38:741 (47) - or 00:40:792 (50) - .
00:40:792 (50) - I'd say that it fits better to 00:42:844 - , also because of the impact increase of the song itself it fits better.
00:48:485 (60,61,62,63,64) - Optional you could change this to D x d k d. I consider that as a more emphasing rhythm which works easier but more obvious.
00:51:562 - 00:56:177 - I'd do this part easier by removing 00:52:075 (66) - (to split the combo) and 00:56:177 (73) - (for a longer break of the sorta harder part of the map and to change 00:52:587 (67) - to d afterwards, mostly because it goes well and differs 00:53:101 (68) - more from the other don notes. Repeat this for 01:00:280 (79,80) - .
00:57:715 (75,76) - Wouldn't you switch them? So the kat sound would be then on the snap sound of the music.
01:06:946 (89,90) - Move these notes 1/1 back, https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/0t7eBI0c.png That sounds by far better, goes well with the background music and vocals and is okay to play.
01:07:972 - 01:24:382 - Apply the previous changes here too.
01:07:972 (91) - Something that bugs me is the usage of D here. You always used K for such parts and that's the only exceptions. Doesn't much sense to me if you ask me. you shoulda change to K.

[Futsuu]
00:03:356 (3) - 00:07:459 (12) - 00:15:664 (29) - Remove these notes; you have to consider how much room is between each note in the previous difficulty Kantan and how much you have here. That rather feels what you could include in a Muzukashii with these settings.
00:10:023 (17,18,19,20) - Move 00:10:280 (18) - to 00:09:767 - and change it afterwards to a don note. Move 00:11:562 (20) - to 00:11:049 - and change it to kat, so it follows the snap sound of the music. Lastly change 00:10:536 (19) - to D because you also used that sound first at 00:02:331 (1) - and also for 00:06:433 (10) - and 00:14:638 (27) - as d sound. It sounds by far more consistent.
00:33:485 (64) - you kept 00:25:280 (49) - as don. 00:33:869 (65) - probably makes more sense to be kat because the vocals are slightly lighter but again I don't find it's necessary. Change (64) to d.
00:37:203 (70) - 00:39:767 (75) - similar to the point of kat usage in the Kantan difficulty I find you should consider that here too, and change the marked notes to don.
00:42:331 (80,81,82,83) - You could change the part to d kkD, d to differ it better from the kat sounds following the snaps and kkD for the light sounds at 00:42:844 - and 00:43:100 - .
00:47:459 - 00:50:536 - Just a random idea floating in my head but what about this? https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/wsdm5RXq.png (90) can be D then, (91) on the picture sounds really good and the notes on 00:50:023 - and 00:50:280 - doesn't sound so plain.
00:54:895 (108) - Leave this note out. I understand it supports 00:55:151 (109) - but I don't really think it's that important and it allows you have a little bigger break. As well, remove 01:11:306 (147) - and 01:19:510 (166) - .
01:25:151 (180,181) - Lastly, remove these notes to be consistent with the first things I've said for the difficulty.

[Muzukashii]
00:03:355 (4,5,6) - You should decide what exactly you want to follow. You mostly follow the snaps with kat notes - which is don here in (6)'s case. Then you put kat for (5) because of the piano (?) sound. And for whatever reason, (4) is also kat. I mean I somewhat see that you try to emphasize everything as good as possible but I don't think it really works and.. at least for this case I'd change (4) to d. Do this the same with 00:11:561 (31) - .
00:07:203 (15,16,17,18,19) - would do this to ddd k d instead if you ask me but anyways, depending on what exactly you want to use don notes and kat notes you should apply these changes if there are some. Switch 00:15:921 (45,46) - for this case too.
00:19:254 - personally I find 0.80x too much, I find 0.90x by far more natural and cooler, for 00:35:151 - you could change it to 0.95x or just move back to 1.00x.
00:19:254 - 00:35:151 - (I actually noticed that way later after I was already done with Futsuu) but Futsuu and Muzukashii are really really similar at this part. Oni uses a decent amount of doublets so maybe you could use some of them here too? At least you need to have a clearer difference between these two difficulties. While I don't think this always needs or should be done, here we only have some extra notes for Muzukashii but that's it.
00:41:049 (106) - That should rather be don, 00:40:280 (103,104,105) - sounds decent the way they are but d k k k d sounds not so natural at all.
00:43:869 (116) - Actually a snap sound where kat should belong.
00:45:921 (122,123) - as well here, switch them.
00:48:228 (129,130) - (130) may be removed to make (129) to don afterwards, it has a nicer flow and better transistion from 00:48:741 - .
01:12:332 (207) - I personally wouldn't consider this note as something contributing to the map, it "just" connects 01:11:561 (203,204,205,206) - with 01:12:588 (208,209,210,211,212) - but without anything that is significant in the song.

[Oni]

- Generally, longer streams like 00:00:663 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - or 00:49:510 (191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199) - will be a problem, they rather feel like weird difficulty spikes you don't need to have at all. While the rest looks good by using multi-colour triplets and doublets I find they will be more than enough to suit the song and to give a challenge.


Conclusion: You have some nice ideas and approaches for the map and you're on a good way (I told you that before via IRC) but this isn't ready yet to let a BN go through. Mostly because of many inconsistency at the hitsound choice and rhythm choice. additionally, the weird difficulty gap of Futsuu-Muzukashii but also of Kantan and Oni with their spikes are causing problems meanwhile. That's all from my side, good luck!

1. at tag. kiniro -> ki"nn"iro

1. 00:26:946 - add note. skipping heads of measures have unstable feeling. try to avoid it.
   then you should remove some notes in this calm section to make breaks. ( 00:18:741 - ~ 00:35:151 - )
   i suggest to remove 00:20:023 - and take consistency. but try as you think.

1. 00:26:946 - add note, same reason as Futsuu. you don't have to remove anything.

1. 00:00:921 - there's a drum accent here. you can emphasize this by removing 00:00:792 (4) - .
2. 00:25:280 (103,104) - Ctrl+G? considering the vocal pitch.

thzz wrote:

i read your message in-game~
let's go for further improvement :3

[General]

1. at tag. kiniro -> ki"nn"iro

[Kantan]
fine

[Futsuu]

1. 00:26:946 - add note. skipping heads of measures have unstable feeling. try to avoid it.
   then you should remove some notes in this calm section to make breaks. ( 00:18:741 - ~ 00:35:151 - )
   i suggest to remove 00:20:023 - and take consistency. but try as you think.

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:26:946 - add note, same reason as Futsuu. you don't have to remove anything.

[Oni]

1. 00:00:921 - there's a drum accent here. you can emphasize this by removing 00:00:792 (4) - .
2. 00:25:280 (103,104) - Ctrl+G? considering the vocal pitch.

really much improved. good job!

call me back on forum pm =w=b


@for after bn, qat.
second metadata source : http://www.udonnokuni-anime.jp/goods/music.html

Taikocracy wrote:

qualify when tbh

Surono wrote:

Taikocracy wrote:

qualify when tbh

plz, even its not bubbled yet. dont do that again,. ,.

Taikocracy wrote:

oops sorry thought it was a good map...?

thzz wrote:

sry for keeping you wait for a long orz

Futsuu: 00:22:074 - add note cuz consistency with 00:30:280 -

also can you bring BG with higher dimension for wide screen player? or use this -> http://puu.sh/w1BwX/5b5d76f561.jpg
1920x1200 is allowed in current criteria.

send me pm :3

Surono wrote:

Taikocracy wrote:

oops sorry thought it was a good map...?

yeah good map!~ but good map is need bubblah, dont forget that bubblah~

just say like, " rank when tbh "

Surono wrote:

the current bg is 1920x1079?

kantan
00:53:100 - 01:01:305 - 01:09:510 - 01:17:715 - add kat there and 01:22:331 - don, it seems the density with futsuu are far.

01:06:433 - add don here, about density with futsuu

01:15:664 - don here if you accept 01:14:638 - on futsuu suggestion kd dk

Futsuu
00:52:331 - move to 00:52:844 - here, inconsistent structure with other similar parts

00:56:433 - -> 00:56:946 - , to keep consistency structure overall

01:14:126 - don, 01:14:382 - move to 01:14:895 - and 01:15:151 - -> 01:15:408 -

01:16:946 - -> 01:17:459 -

cmb

404 AccNotFound wrote:

love this map, so one little suggestion.

In Oni diff, 00:00:280 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - little unmatched with sound to me.
since you followed the drum sound like 00:00:280 (1,2) - kd, 00:00:663 (3,4,5) - must be d kk cause of sound pitch imo.
this is my suggestion.



really sorry for suggest after bubble ;w;
see ya~