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hi-mei

Joined June 2014

hi-mei 2017-04-06T14:16:47+00:00

Bakari wrote:
There is no way you can just call a certain pattern a joke without offering a better alternative nor explaining the logic that brought you to the following decision. Besides, the whole style is consistent, and it woks well both as a collab diff and a part of the spread. I try, I genuinely do try to get your logic here, but I can't. Perhaps you could elaborate more on this aspect rather than generalizing things?

03:29:931 (6) - jumping from 0.6x to 2.27x ds in stream section isnt quite playable i think
03:29:816 (5,6) - it feels like these two are hand placed, ds varies from 0.49 to 0.6 for some reason
03:30:047 (1,2,3,4) - same thing here, just use in-game tools to transform slider into the stream (ctrl+shift+f)

I was always referring to the initial mod.

riffy

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Joined December 2010

riffy 2017-04-06T15:20:25+00:00

And I was referring to the remark in Russian that you've posted. You clearly said that there was much more to it, so it's only natural that I demand more detailed commentary, isn't it?

hi-mei

784 posts

Joined June 2014

hi-mei 2017-04-06T15:38:21+00:00

Bakari wrote:
And I was referring to the remark in Russian that you've posted. You clearly said that there was much more to it, so it's only natural that I demand more detailed commentary, isn't it?

?????
isnt ur job to clean things up before the qualification? I pinpointed something that were super obvious for me (and for others too, i suppose)
open it in editor and do what u obligated to.

oh wait, u just bubbled a map wth something that breaks RC, im not surprised u cant see more minore stuff, if you cant find a beam in your eye.

riffy

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Joined December 2010

riffy 2017-04-06T15:43:03+00:00

I believe you're missing a point here, Beatmap Nominator is not a job. Why do you expect me to look through the map when you are the one who believes there is a problem with it?

Oh, and please, would you mind being more selective with your wording? I understand that you mean no harm, but it still feels pretty rude. Please try to avoid that, if possible.

Edit: yes, we are going a bit off-topic, but I genuinely believe that there is a genuine concern in the set and the modder is just having a hard time communicating with us. I think that clarifying this kind of things should actually help the discussion

_DT3

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Joined October 2015

_DT3 2017-04-06T15:56:37+00:00

Just wanted to ask something about the Irrkiss diff (dunno if this has been addressed before so I apologize if it has):

1. 01:45:739 (1,2,3) - 03:03:739 (1,2) - Why are tails like this not silenced? It stands out a bit imo because the combination of the two 1/8 hitnormals in a row sounds a bit louder than the rest. It's minor but is worth fixing. This might not be the same thing for all of the tails but some of them like the ones mentioned don't fit imo.
2. 02:17:585 (1,1) - It might be different mappers mapping this but this should be consistent with 01:03:739 (1) - , it's the same sound and pretty much the whole diff fully uses this 3/2 slider whenever this sound appears, so it should also be like that here. Speaking of which, why does the first kiai suddenly stop here 01:03:739 - and not on the other kiais?

Just would like some answers on these

Firetruck

1,011 posts

Joined July 2015

Firetruck 2017-04-06T16:20:44+00:00

hi-mei wrote:
Bakari wrote:
And I was referring to the remark in Russian that you've posted. You clearly said that there was much more to it, so it's only natural that I demand more detailed commentary, isn't it?
?????
isnt ur job to clean things up before the qualification? I pinpointed something that were super obvious for me (and for others too, i suppose)
open it in editor and do what u obligated to.

oh wait, u just bubbled a map wth something that breaks RC, im not surprised u cant see more minore stuff, if you cant find a beam in your eye.

alright thats just rood dude

hi-mei

784 posts

Joined June 2014

hi-mei 2017-04-06T17:27:22+00:00

Sorry

Last edited by hi-mei 2017-04-07T05:29:20+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-04-06T18:17:50+00:00

ok I've seen enough, you're banned from posting in this thread hi-mei.

If you feel like you want discuss anything about the RC with anyone then feel free to PM the respective recipient

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Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2017-04-07T19:37:54+00:00

himei: I responded downbelow, I felt like the snapping is the best option to fully cover the vocals.

As for your example, the only similar pattern I was able to find was 00:18:970 (1,2,3) - and well, it somehow doesn't look like your screen at all haha

Kisses: Do you also agree that some stuff needs to be silenced? I actually think that's a good idea, we should work on that.

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-04-07T20:41:42+00:00

@irre yh I silenced a bunch of slider ends in my parts. Since you also agree I'll just go ahead and silence the relevant sliders in your part then (there were only 4 iirc)

_DT3 wrote:
Just wanted to ask something about the Irrkiss diff (dunno if this has been addressed before so I apologize if it has):
2. 02:17:585 (1,1) - It might be different mappers mapping this but this should be consistent with 01:03:739 (1) - , it's the same sound and pretty much the whole diff fully uses this 3/2 slider whenever this sound appears, so it should also be like that here. Speaking of which, why does the first kiai suddenly stop here 01:03:739 - and not on the other kiais? I don't believe flat out consistency should be law in a map, not in full versions anyway. I see this as adding variety and is justifiable to me unless someone wants to point out specifically why it isn't. I myself have made a few maps with varying patterns such as the example you've pointed out.

Just would like some answers on these

use this update instead

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Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-04-07T21:20:53+00:00

okay updated ready!

riffy

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riffy 2017-04-08T08:47:10+00:00

Any changes apart from the stuff mentioned in the map's thread?

ZekeyHache

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ZekeyHache 2017-04-08T08:53:44+00:00

it

riffy

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riffy 2017-04-08T09:38:19+00:00

Since non of the other diffs required any updates, I assume that it's the only difficulty that was changed.

I love it.

Rebubbled!

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-04-08T10:37:39+00:00

Thank you bakari and everyone. xoxo

hi-mei

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hi-mei 2017-04-09T12:09:11+00:00

i think its better now
tho not sure if this a mistake
01:16:201 (1,2,3) - ok so, here we got a 01:16:547 (2) - with 3.3 spacin, tho the distance time-wise is still 3/4, same as (2,3)
so if u mapping vocals here 01:16:547 (2) - this placement (rhythm-wise) is right, but spacing-wise (emphasis) its wrong.
01:16:547 (2) - this beat has no sound sound to multiply the ds by 1.7x
tho if u put a note on the 01:16:662 - proper beat it starts to make sense. i mean, its a either minor mistake or, if ure about vocals here, then its a huge flaw.

01:18:047 (1,2) - ^

same, this distance doesnt make sense if ure mapping vocals and skipping 01:18:508 - beat

бакари))))))))))))))000

_handholding

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_handholding 2017-04-09T12:49:42+00:00

~~Hi-mei I'm pretty sure I banned you~~

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-04-09T13:54:46+00:00

Pls hi-mei with respect I know u trying help but its enough they pretty much made it clear they fine with the map we fixed the unrakable and polished stuff whatever u pointing out there is not so useful so u can take step back from this thread and let the more experience people decide. Thank you.

Xinnoh

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Xinnoh 2017-04-09T16:47:02+00:00

is this considered harassment yet

useful link

_DT3

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_DT3 2017-04-09T19:56:19+00:00

Does that mean I get kds because there was stuff fixed :eyes:
~~ok no~~

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2017-04-09T22:00:29+00:00

himei:

01:16:201 (1,2) - TT
01:16:893 (3) - uhuhuh~

What we got here is that the TT is pronounced way more emphasized than the uhuhu, hence why this spacing is justified.

EDIT: http://puu.sh/veWTu/fd432500f5.txt I got a quick hotfix here; 01:21:278 (1) - this just sounded so off and I fixed it. ( I wonder why no one points this out but prefers sticking to things that don't exist )

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I Must Decrease

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I Must Decrease 2017-04-11T20:19:59+00:00

top diff: (lol)

I would say that adding clickable beat on 01:16:662 - makes sense on the top diff, the gap feels quite awkward as is.

The fact that you dont prioritize that vocal on the second chorus also concerns me. 02:30:047 (1,2) - is clearly not vocal focused but you overly focus vocals on the first chorus. See to fixing this.

Kiai placement here also makes no sense: 01:04:201 - , in addition to this, please stick to consistent rhythms between 01:03:739 (1) - and 02:17:585 (1) - (i'd call this kiai placement warrant for a bubble pop actually so I will be popping this until this is fixed. this is by no means a veto of the map however.)

Adding a spinner that ends on 02:59:585 - and starts on 02:57:739 - might also be a nice way to start up the map again.

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hi-mei

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hi-mei 2017-04-11T20:33:18+00:00

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-04-11T20:41:38+00:00

i was gonna self pop anyway also i dont see a convincing reason to pop lol
and @hi-mei forget this thread exist pls

bye-mei

Tae

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Tae 2017-04-11T21:08:13+00:00

hi-mei wrote:

see lily, this is what happens when you try to deny us a dance cover
learn your lesson x
ok i will not shitpost

Firetruck

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Firetruck 2017-04-11T21:09:31+00:00

ok but why did u pop that bubble i just dont see a legit reason for a bubble pop

_DT3

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_DT3 2017-04-11T21:20:19+00:00

Xexxar wrote:
Kiai placement here also makes no sense: 01:04:201 - , in addition to this, please stick to consistent rhythms between 01:03:739 (1) - and 02:17:585 (1) - (i'd call this kiai placement warrant for a bubble pop actually so I will be popping this until this is fixed. this is by no means a veto of the map however.)

This ^

This is pretty much what I pointed out but there still might be room for discussion

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-04-11T21:23:42+00:00

they are a collab its mapped by two different people ! it would be boring to map 3min drain song with same pattern , i believe variation is good as long it make sense and here it does in my opnion also the kiai is not a big problem it can be fixed no reason to pop for that its just when he placed green line for sv it got saperate! jeesus!! there nothing to discuss really if you dont understand the mappers idea or the map than thats the modder's problem, we cant explain you the map you should understand it by yourself! peace

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2017-04-11T21:27:04+00:00

@Xexxar, can you at least specify which diff your mod is referring to? It looks like you're making general statements about the map but it's only the top diff.

Translation: On Irrkiss' Insane, Kiai is toggled off on 01:03:739 - for an "unwarranted reason" whereas later on in the same song, 02:17:585 - there is no kiai toggle here, which makes the kiai placement earlier inconsistent. This is the reason for the bubble pop. The reason this might be an issue is because the kiai fountain appears on 01:04:201 - which is in the middle of a slider, and doesn't map to anything.

I have exams for another 3 days but after that I can help with the set, if it's not already resolved/qualified.

P A N

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P A N 2017-04-11T21:40:14+00:00

well since the bubble is already popped so can I bring up my mod which got passed because of BN mod? because I think it still makes some sense.

P A N wrote:
[Kiss]
00:55:201 - no 1/8 here like you did on 00:57:047 (4) ? the inconsistent makes there lacks of something tbh.
00:20:355 (3) - ahhh if replace with circle and add 1/4 slider on 00:20:585 would be nice because the vocal on 00:20:355 is kinda stop almost instantly while 00:20:585 is an extended vocal. it might sound a bit weird on 00:20:701 but you could silencer the tail.
00:37:431 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - It's so beauuuutiful yes but it might abuse the drain if player miss there if that's the only reason for spam NC here it's like the only place in the map you spam NC this much.
~~00:56:355 (2) - off the screen, move up a bit.~~
00:58:662 - no 4 sliders of 1/8 here? o.o if you try it, it really makes 00:59:585 (1) very peak as a downbeat. same for 02:12:508
02:10:893 - you didn't use 1/8 here to be consistent with the first part, tbh I don't want you to make consistentcy but 1/8 sounds and play better. also here 02:09:047 too.
02:14:585 - you could end spinner here at the beginning of vocal and make very slow slider on 02:14:816 to introduce the kiai too, I think it's fit with your style on this map o.o
03:23:124 (1) - no clap here? lacking something since you always use clap.

strike = you already fixed, gl

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2017-04-11T21:44:10+00:00

Xexxar wrote:
I would say that adding clickable beat on 01:16:662 - makes sense on the top diff, the gap feels quite awkward as is. Let me just add an object on every drum i INTENTIONALLY skipped. Jokes aside, I followed the vocals. It seems rather interesting to me that you've only mentioned this instance, but not other ones..

The fact that you dont prioritize that vocal on the second chorus also concerns me. 02:30:047 (1,2) - is clearly not vocal focused but you overly focus vocals on the first chorus. See to fixing this.

Kiai placement here also makes no sense: 01:04:201 - , in addition to this, please stick to consistent rhythms between 01:03:739 (1) - and 02:17:585 (1) - (i'd call this kiai placement warrant for a bubble pop actually so I will be popping this until this is fixed. this is by no means a veto of the map however.) Well, it makes sense it's just not consistent. I guess we go with removing it however. <- Lilyanna, could you do this for me?

Adding a spinner that ends on 02:59:585 - and starts on 02:57:739 - might also be a nice way to start up the map again. For me it doesn't seem like a too cool addition, I'll let Kisses decide however.

This bubble pop was extremely unnecessary, a simple note to the mapper would have definitely been enough - and your issues with the map don't seem that warranting either.

Voli

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Voli 2017-04-11T21:47:39+00:00

tfw lilyanna tries to map sth other than justin and immediately this happens

Firetruck

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Firetruck 2017-04-11T21:51:19+00:00

Voli wrote:
tfw lilyanna tries to map sth other than justin and immediately this happens

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-04-11T21:51:27+00:00

Voli wrote:
tfw lilyanna tries to map sth other than justin and immediately this happens

you see why i map JUSTIN BIEBER so no one bother looking at it xD haha

edit: fixed kiai
and fixed the 0.00 sv idk how that happen its 0.10 now

I Must Decrease

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I Must Decrease 2017-04-11T23:49:43+00:00

I literally popped because of this rule: "If a bubbled map contains unrankable issues, its bubble must be popped. To ensure a map has no other unrankable issues, it’s best for another nominator to examine the map once again."

I understand this is not a 100% unrankable situation with that kiai, but it WOULD have been DQ'd for it, so I popped it.

I am NOT vetoing this map. Please refrain from jumping down my throat in anger.

Metaku

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Metaku 2017-04-12T00:55:37+00:00

Hmm why indeed would someone pop a map for an unrankable issue....

AllieBork

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AllieBork 2017-04-12T21:24:08+00:00

IrrKiss' Insane
02:30:047 (1,2) - Why start the second slider at this time? Why? It's on a hi-hat you can barely hear.
The clear vocals are on the blue tick right after it. Why not start the slider on that?
02:31:893 (1,2) - Why would
02:37:431 (1,2) - you do
02:39:278 (1,2) - this

I don't mean to be rude. I really like the rest. It's just this bit. I genuinely don't understand and it annoys me.

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-04-12T21:28:42+00:00

seriously stop modding the map u ruining it

thank you.

AllieBork

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AllieBork 2017-04-12T21:30:44+00:00

Lilyanna wrote:
seriously stop modding the map u ruining it thank you.

How exactly is that ruining it?

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