Thanks monstrata! I hope nobody will have any problems with BG and mp3 now 
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TrySail & TRUE - High Free Spirits vs. DREAM SOLISTER [Osu|T
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Topic Starter
Akitoshi and Corinn work so good together
Now ready to be ranked?
Topic Starter
Just waiting for newyams to qualify
Sorry I'm late x.x
Taiko diffs are fine to me.
Qualified!
Yay <3
Taiko diffs are fine to me.
Qualified!
Yay <3
Topic Starter
Yeaaa Thankss
Gratzz!
01:22:190 (5,6) - what about these in Hard, isn't it 1/3, instead?
Topic Starter
yo my bad, thanks for mentionning that...
I'll ask for a dq to fix that!
I'll ask for a dq to fix that!
Hello.
Sotarks did request a DQ to me.
The point mentioned above is correct. This is a wrong snap.
Additionally i found 00:54:810 (1) - which is snapped to 3/4 instead to 1/2.
Usually it wouldn't be a problem to re-quality it directly because of one note but since i found this here by myself i have to assume more than these two notes are wrong so i won't do that.
Disqualified for now.
Sotarks did request a DQ to me.
The point mentioned above is correct. This is a wrong snap.
Additionally i found 00:54:810 (1) - which is snapped to 3/4 instead to 1/2.
Usually it wouldn't be a problem to re-quality it directly because of one note but since i found this here by myself i have to assume more than these two notes are wrong so i won't do that.
Disqualified for now.
Topic Starter
Ok fixed those 2, my bad for that.. For some reasons it was already fixed on my pc, i checked with my laptop and i found it wrong.
peppy pls
anyway updated
peppy pls
anyway updated
mod assistant check for sotarks since he requested it on discord; apparently there are some unsnapped sliders on aki's diff as well so it might be worth looking into it
edit 2: general post cleanup
SPOILER
image dimensions can be ignored since max resolution size was updated to 1920x1200
edit: actually it should be fine since it's a 3/4 slider; i forgot to change the modding assistant parameters lol
image dimensions can be ignored since max resolution size was updated to 1920x1200
edit: actually it should be fine since it's a 3/4 slider; i forgot to change the modding assistant parameters lol
edit 2: general post cleanup
Topic Starter
how am i supposed to fix this!!!
there's the 2 hards bug
edit2: ok seems to be ok now on my friend's pc, i updated and now everything should be fine ffs
uwu
Before this gets ranked, something bothered me personally on the highest difficulty.
00:18:300 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Pattern feels really out of place with its rhythm, I don't think the song supports a constant 1/2 spam. The main issue is that there's absolutely nothing to support this 00:18:784 (4) - note. I tried removing the note and listening to the song multiple times over 25% playback rate and nothing. Furthermore, 00:19:429 (8) - is kind of the same, except there's a really quiet noise that can support it but because it's so quiet and almost inaudible, it'd be better if there wasn't anything. I know you already declined this suggestion from a previous mod post but you really should re-consider this.
That's all, gl on re-qualify!
00:18:300 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Pattern feels really out of place with its rhythm, I don't think the song supports a constant 1/2 spam. The main issue is that there's absolutely nothing to support this 00:18:784 (4) - note. I tried removing the note and listening to the song multiple times over 25% playback rate and nothing. Furthermore, 00:19:429 (8) - is kind of the same, except there's a really quiet noise that can support it but because it's so quiet and almost inaudible, it'd be better if there wasn't anything. I know you already declined this suggestion from a previous mod post but you really should re-consider this.
That's all, gl on re-qualify!
Topic Starter
Ok reconsidered it, and fixed.Asphyxia wrote:
Before this gets ranked, something bothered me personally on the highest difficulty.
00:18:300 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Pattern feels really out of place with its rhythm, I don't think the song supports a constant 1/2 spam. The main issue is that there's absolutely nothing to support this 00:18:784 (4) - note. I tried removing the note and listening to the song multiple times over 25% playback rate and nothing. Furthermore, 00:19:429 (8) - is kind of the same, except there's a really quiet noise that can support it but because it's so quiet and almost inaudible, it'd be better if there wasn't anything. I know you already declined this suggestion from a previous mod post but you really should re-consider this.
That's all, gl on re-qualify!
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@Hobbes2 and @Left 01:22:190 - to 01:23:597 - can you guys fix the rythmn to be like or Kalitarks or Linatarks.. Because 01:23:597 (1) - was off and i fixed timing -30 offset, and the transition to 01:23:387 (1,1) - is kinda harsh if you keep 1/6.
Can you guys fix that before we move that to qualified section again ? Thanks
@Chromoxx fix the timing on taiko diffs 01:23:597 (1) - add this redline.
fixed
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Harubbes' Insane
01:23:387 (1) - This is unsnapped. You coped the length from the previous sliders, but 1.30 x 1.5 = 1.95x not 2.00x.
01:23:387 (1) - This is unsnapped. You coped the length from the previous sliders, but 1.30 x 1.5 = 1.95x not 2.00x.
uh, sotarks could you fix? :pMonstrata wrote:
Harubbes' Insane
01:23:387 (1) - This is unsnapped. You coped the length from the previous sliders, but 1.30 x 1.5 = 1.95x not 2.00x.
Topic Starter
fixed, and updated.
also fixed for left
also fixed for left
fixed that pattern in a slightly different way and some very minor pixel stuff
fix
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143,169,97249,2,0,P|137:235|125:266,1,88,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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270,376,98506,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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325,203,98865,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Math is hard. Rebubbled~
Ok, just rechecked the diffs for any AiMod issues, and they seem fine 
Re-qualified!
Re-qualified!
congrats!
Not sure if it's just me but, the timing feels a bit off, the notes are a bit late.
Topic Starter
Timing has been changed already. Also maybe you play with the Old mp3..Broly wrote:
Not sure if it's just me but, the timing feels a bit off, the notes are a bit late.
Sotarks wrote:
Timing has been changed already. Also maybe you play with the Old mp3..Broly wrote:
Not sure if it's just me but, the timing feels a bit off, the notes are a bit late.
Ah must've been it.
Just want to drop a few things about the highest diff I'm concerned about
Kalitark's Hibike
General
- Any specific reason to why this diff is OD9.3? It's a little overkill don't you think? It also makes a pretty large jump in OD from the 5.52* diff which is OD8.7. If this was addressed before than that's okay, I just don't like the idea of a slow(ish) bpm map having such a high OD. Also remember that the second half of the map is a massive BPM change and it'll throw several people off. Making this map have such a small hit error just makes it so much worse and it's not helpful really. The only reason you've probably done this is to give the map more pp which is somewhat acceptable, but honestly is a bad mentality.
- 00:07:977 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I really don't like how weirdly this plays out, I was expecting a similar version to the first set of 1,2 jumps (00:05:397 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ) since it uses emphasis based on small DS. Having medium ranged DS on the next pair of notes completely ruin the emphasis of these jumps when you want the exact opposite.
- 00:10:558 (1,2,3,4) - Why are these jumps spaced out so similar when you give the loud drums a much bigger DS on the next pattern (00:13:139 (1,2) - )? It looks weird and plays pretty weirdly since by introducing the small DS, you're giving the player an incentive to expect the next time the pattern appears to be the exact same so they'll under-aim the jumps. It feels pretty daft overall.
- 00:28:623 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Shouldn't this whole pattern be descending in DS? Atm it's everywhere and isn't structured at all compared to 00:29:913 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - . If you don't agree, at least change 00:28:623 (1,2,3,4,5) - since there's a random huge jump on 4,5 that doesn't seem justified at all. Deserves a change imo
- 00:40:235 (7) - This should have a NC imo to introduce the new combo scheme of having one every big white tick. This is also justified by having exactly the same spacing as the patterns right ahead.
- 00:43:945 (10,1) - I get that you're trying to be consistent with the triplets in the rhythm here, but every triple but this one is viable in the song and is clearly heard. This one on the other hand, is barely audible and kinda doesn't make sense because you've focused on nothing but the foreground (which is the vocals and the loud snares) up until this point (e.g. 00:32:494 (5,6) - , 00:28:139 (7,8,9,1) - )
- 00:48:461 (1) - 00:48:945 (1) - These shouldn't be NCs, the 1/2 jumps all use a NC at every big white tick. If anything, the jumps should be using a more frequent DS than this little section here, it's no where near as intense as the loud drums and that's shown through the mapping too, why not have both to clarify to the player? It just makes more sense.
- 00:56:696 (2) - This isn't really important at all but this is the only type of hook slider in the whole diff and it's at a random place in the song, no key changes or anything.
- 01:01:726 (3,1) - This is inconsistent because the finish is under-emphasized when you give it a bigger DS later on at 01:06:936 (2,3,1) - , 01:08:732 (2,3) - etc.
- 01:12:145 (1,2,3,4,5) - Shouldn't this have a NC at 01:12:684 (4) - or smth since you have the NC change at 01:08:193 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - ? If not, then it all of these patterns should have the same, consistent NC as everything else.
- 01:14:840 (1) - There is no justification to this NC other than it looks nicer. Up to you if you wanna change
- 01:17:355 (1,2,3) - I don't like 3 being stacked with 1 since there is no reason for it to be there. The lyrics are different and the tone of the song is slightly lower. Why not have 3 spaced slightly lower? This will give the jumps after more of a punch and then it'll be justified with the actual song.
- 01:20:753 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - To me this is emphasized strangely. 01:20:932 (2,1) - & 01:21:292 (2,1) - sounds like they should be the ones with higher DS here instead of the current spacing you follow (01:21:112 (1,2) - 01:21:472 (1,2) - ). With the drums increasing in intensity, they would be more represented with the proposed DS changes.
Overall I think some of the emphasis used could be polished a little more, especially with 01:20:753 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - since sometimes you ignore the intensity increasing however sometimes you do. It's best to be consistent with these types of things since it gives the player one incentive to aim bigger instead of them remembering when the larger spacing comes.
I totally agree with Alphabet, also I'll put some major and minor issues here:Alphabet wrote:
Just want to drop a few things about the highest diff I'm concerned aboutKalitark's HibikeGeneralMappu
- Any specific reason to why this diff is OD9.3? It's a little overkill don't you think? It also makes a pretty large jump in OD from the 5.52* diff which is OD8.7. If this was addressed before than that's okay, I just don't like the idea of a slow(ish) bpm map having such a high OD. Also remember that the second half of the map is a massive BPM change and it'll throw several people off. Making this map have such a small hit error just makes it so much worse and it's not helpful really. The only reason you've probably done this is to give the map more pp which is somewhat acceptable, but honestly is a bad mentality.
- 00:07:977 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I really don't like how weirdly this plays out, I was expecting a similar version to the first set of 1,2 jumps (00:05:397 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ) since it uses emphasis based on small DS. Having medium ranged DS on the next pair of notes completely ruin the emphasis of these jumps when you want the exact opposite.
- 00:10:558 (1,2,3,4) - Why are these jumps spaced out so similar when you give the loud drums a much bigger DS on the next pattern (00:13:139 (1,2) - )? It looks weird and plays pretty weirdly since by introducing the small DS, you're giving the player an incentive to expect the next time the pattern appears to be the exact same so they'll under-aim the jumps. It feels pretty daft overall.
- 00:28:623 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Shouldn't this whole pattern be descending in DS? Atm it's everywhere and isn't structured at all compared to 00:29:913 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - . If you don't agree, at least change 00:28:623 (1,2,3,4,5) - since there's a random huge jump on 4,5 that doesn't seem justified at all. Deserves a change imo
- 00:40:235 (7) - This should have a NC imo to introduce the new combo scheme of having one every big white tick. This is also justified by having exactly the same spacing as the patterns right ahead.
- 00:43:945 (10,1) - I get that you're trying to be consistent with the triplets in the rhythm here, but every triple but this one is viable in the song and is clearly heard. This one on the other hand, is barely audible and kinda doesn't make sense because you've focused on nothing but the foreground (which is the vocals and the loud snares) up until this point (e.g. 00:32:494 (5,6) - , 00:28:139 (7,8,9,1) - )
- 00:48:461 (1) - 00:48:945 (1) - These shouldn't be NCs, the 1/2 jumps all use a NC at every big white tick. If anything, the jumps should be using a more frequent DS than this little section here, it's no where near as intense as the loud drums and that's shown through the mapping too, why not have both to clarify to the player? It just makes more sense.
- 00:56:696 (2) - This isn't really important at all but this is the only type of hook slider in the whole diff and it's at a random place in the song, no key changes or anything.
- 01:01:726 (3,1) - This is inconsistent because the finish is under-emphasized when you give it a bigger DS later on at 01:06:936 (2,3,1) - , 01:08:732 (2,3) - etc.
- 01:12:145 (1,2,3,4,5) - Shouldn't this have a NC at 01:12:684 (4) - or smth since you have the NC change at 01:08:193 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - ? If not, then it all of these patterns should have the same, consistent NC as everything else.
- 01:14:840 (1) - There is no justification to this NC other than it looks nicer. Up to you if you wanna change
- 01:17:355 (1,2,3) - I don't like 3 being stacked with 1 since there is no reason for it to be there. The lyrics are different and the tone of the song is slightly lower. Why not have 3 spaced slightly lower? This will give the jumps after more of a punch and then it'll be justified with the actual song.
- 01:20:753 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - To me this is emphasized strangely. 01:20:932 (2,1) - & 01:21:292 (2,1) - sounds like they should be the ones with higher DS here instead of the current spacing you follow (01:21:112 (1,2) - 01:21:472 (1,2) - ). With the drums increasing in intensity, they would be more represented with the proposed DS changes.
Overall I think some of the emphasis used could be polished a little more, especially with 01:20:753 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - since sometimes you ignore the intensity increasing however sometimes you do. It's best to be consistent with these types of things since it gives the player one incentive to aim bigger instead of them remembering when the larger spacing comes.
00:17:010 (6,7) - I can't understand why you placed here spacing large like this. It doesn't emphasise ground on which you focused previously. For example 00:16:365 (4,5) - here you placed small spacing, because rythm is quite low, but spacing between 00:16:848 (5,6,7) - these objects can't be the same, because you've stronger rythm 00:17:010 (6) - here. But look for 00:32:332 (4,5) - this. It seems very undermapped, because rythm is stronger than previous one for which you've used higher spacing and this make no sense at all. These are more examples for spacing problems, but I'm pointing these ones with hope that you'll see what I mean.
00:52:026 (1,2,3) - Here flow is a bit harsh and uncomfortable. I think it can be a bit smoother angle between objects here, because it plays very weird.
Ofc this is not all, but I've to end here, because I haven't more time now.
Topic Starter
Alphabet wrote:
Just want to drop a few things about the highest diff I'm concerned about
[Kalitark's Hibike]GeneralMappu
- Any specific reason to why this diff is OD9.3? It's a little overkill don't you think? It also makes a pretty large jump in OD from the 5.52* diff which is OD8.7. If this was addressed before than that's okay, I just don't like the idea of a slow(ish) bpm map having such a high OD. Also remember that the second half of the map is a massive BPM change and it'll throw several people off. Making this map have such a small hit error just makes it so much worse and it's not helpful really. The only reason you've probably done this is to give the map more pp which is somewhat acceptable, but honestly is a bad mentality. osu! is actually a challenging rythmn game, and on a rythmn game you need to be accurate to fit the music intensity propelly. Also, the diff Kalitarks' Hibike is the last diff of this spread which is the most challenging one, I want a High OD to match first of all with the star rating and the pattering i'm using in the map, and also for the reasons i gave you above. High OD means as well "well rewarded", a player with a good accuracy on this difficulty will be well rewarded with some performance point accurate with the play. So yeah I want to keep the current OD if possible, there're no reasons for me to change it.
- 00:07:977 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I really don't like how weirdly this plays out, I was expecting a similar version to the first set of 1,2 jumps (00:05:397 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ) since it uses emphasis based on small DS. Having medium ranged DS on the next pair of notes completely ruin the emphasis of these jumps when you want the exact opposite. This pattern is just a small back&fourth gimmick for those rythmn, it plays well and I have no reason to change it since it doesn't affect the playability of the map.
- 00:10:558 (1,2,3,4) - Why are these jumps spaced out so similar when you give the loud drums a much bigger DS on the next pattern (00:13:139 (1,2) - )? It looks weird and plays pretty weirdly since by introducing the small DS, you're giving the player an incentive to expect the next time the pattern appears to be the exact same so they'll under-aim the jumps. It feels pretty daft overall.first of all the difference between 00:10:558 (1,2) - and 00:13:139 (1,2) - this is that the second one's drums are louder + they have vocals snapped on them and I want to give my spacing a build up. The other jumps of this pattern are here to follow the constant rythmn of the drums + the vocals.
- 00:28:623 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Shouldn't this whole pattern be descending in DS? Atm it's everywhere and isn't structured at all compared to 00:29:913 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - . If you don't agree, at least change 00:28:623 (1,2,3,4,5) - since there's a random huge jump on 4,5 that doesn't seem justified at all. Deserves a change imo I actually don't agree at all since this whole patterns has really strong vocals, and imo they are not deceasing, and I can here constant 1/2 drum rythmn, nerfing this pattern won't fit the the consistance of the diff.
- 00:40:235 (7) - This should have a NC imo to introduce the new combo scheme of having one every big white tick. This is also justified by having exactly the same spacing as the patterns right ahead. as you can see in most the the map I like to nc every 2 downbeats, and the reason is simple : acess to a better readability to follow my jump patterns by keeping the following points, and to NC every new vocals patterning. This is not a rule to nc every downbeat, am I wrong ?
- 00:43:945 (10,1) - I get that you're trying to be consistent with the triplets in the rhythm here, but every triple but this one is viable in the song and is clearly heard. This one on the other hand, is barely audible and kinda doesn't make sense because you've focused on nothing but the foreground (which is the vocals and the loud snares) up until this point (e.g. 00:32:494 (5,6) - , 00:28:139 (7,8,9,1) - ) every triplet, or 1/4 rythmns are barely noticable in this song, your issue here is valid imo, but here i want some variability in my 1/4 patterns, using triplets everywhere will make the playability a bit lame, having variations 1/4 is always better. It's like mapping a deathstream, sometime you put kicksliders to kill the rythmns or emphasis 1/2 beats that's barely stronger than the 1/4, it's just a case of variation here, so i'll keep my kicksliders. also i wanted more emphasis on 00:43:784 (9,1) - by using spacing according to the 1/4 sliders.
- 00:48:461 (1) - 00:48:945 (1) - These shouldn't be NCs, the 1/2 jumps all use a NC at every big white tick. If anything, the jumps should be using a more frequent DS than this little section here, it's no where near as intense as the loud drums and that's shown through the mapping too, why not have both to clarify to the player? It just makes more sense. is it written somewhere that those can't be NC? as you can see those 2 patterns 00:47:977 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - are the same, but rotated it a bit, to have a better readability and better visuals NC'ing the beggining of your gimmicks is always well apreciate gameplay wise, also focusing on drums to build up the DRUM+VOCAL intensity after it.
I will reply from now for kalibe since he told me he disagree with what you are saying, and I do aswell.. So let me reply propely to this at his place anyway, since Kalibe and I anyway has almost same point of view mapping wise.- 00:56:696 (2) - This isn't really important at all but this is the only type of hook slider in the whole diff and it's at a random place in the song, no key changes or anything. I don't agree since the actual shape of this slider offer you a nice circle flow to the next transition.
- 01:01:726 (3,1) - This is inconsistent because the finish is under-emphasized when you give it a bigger DS later on at 01:06:936 (2,3,1) - , 01:08:732 (2,3) - etc.This is not a thing, because like voice is not such loud as the previous ones, and by keeping 1/2 key spamming for a jump before, you already feel the intensity when you hit that slider. And I know Kalibe does lots of this kind of stuff.
- 01:12:145 (1,2,3,4,5) - Shouldn't this have a NC at 01:12:684 (4) - or smth since you have the NC change at 01:08:193 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - ? If not, then it all of these patterns should have the same, consistent NC as everything else. the second pattern has a rythmn break that's why he did a nc, to have better readability when you break the rythmn. Also ncing what you mentionned is subjective, no actual need to do that.
- 01:14:840 (1) - There is no justification to this NC other than it looks nicer. Up to you if you wanna change You replied for me! It looks nicer indeed, but not only because of that it's also because it's not the same rythmn as 01:14:301 (1,2) - have, so it looks nicer and player can't missread the overlap.
- 01:17:355 (1,2,3) - I don't like 3 being stacked with 1 since there is no reason for it to be there. The lyrics are different and the tone of the song is slightly lower. Why not have 3 spaced slightly lower? This will give the jumps after more of a punch and then it'll be justified with the actual song. "yuwuki.." feels like the ki is in the same section of this vocal pattern, having the same movement back and fourth for a jump build up is a nice thing to introduce the next transition, so yeah keeping that stacked.
- 01:20:753 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - To me this is emphasized strangely. 01:20:932 (2,1) - & 01:21:292 (2,1) - sounds like they should be the ones with higher DS here instead of the current spacing you follow (01:21:112 (1,2) - 01:21:472 (1,2) - ). With the drums increasing in intensity, they would be more represented with the proposed DS changes. It could be, but it's just constants drums here, spacing don't affect it so much, he's going for a V flow here which is pretty cool to emphasis drum rythmns like that, emphasis is correct anyways here.
Overall I think some of the emphasis used could be polished a little more, especially with 01:20:753 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - since sometimes you ignore the intensity increasing however sometimes you do. It's best to be consistent with these types of things since it gives the player one incentive to aim bigger instead of them remembering when the larger spacing comes. I know what you are trying to say, and I can valid that. But what i know is your emphasis modding is pretty subjective and you can interpret emphasis differently it depends on how do you want to interpret the music by your mapping.
Thanks for looking at my map, I hope my reasoning are understandable enough for you.Venix wrote:
00:17:010 (6,7) - I can't understand why you placed here spacing large like this. It doesn't emphasise ground on which you focused previously. For example 00:16:365 (4,5) - here you placed small spacing, because rythm is quite low, but spacing between 00:16:848 (5,6,7) - these objects can't be the same, because you've stronger rythm 00:17:010 (6) - here. But look for 00:32:332 (4,5) - this. It seems very undermapped, because rythm is stronger than previous one for which you've used higher spacing and this make no sense at all. These are more examples for spacing problems, but I'm pointing these ones with hope that you'll see what I mean. This kind of patterning is called a "build up", as you can see 00:16:365 (4) - the vocals are starting lower, 00:17:010 (6) - and accelerate here, and ends 00:17:494 (7) - here and goes louder. Same here 00:32:332 (4) - i emphasized this instead of 00:32:494 (5) - because I felt like vocals has more emphasis power than the kick here.
00:52:026 (1,2,3) - Here flow is a bit harsh and uncomfortable. I think it can be a bit smoother angle between objects here, because it plays very weird. sharp angles do sometimes gives more emphasis that you think, and it will create a nice v flow after it, so basicly this will not be changed.
Hey, I was told about this and I'd like to hear your reasoning for some decisions.
I've only looked at the last diff btw.
00:24:590 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - What's supporting the taps here? It's the same rhythm as 00:21:687 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - There's 2 issues I have with this decisions. One being you used a different concept to map a repeated section. This part is no different than the first, so there's no need for a new concept yet.
Also is the combination of hits with the circles. 00:25:235 (9,10,11) - Here the intensity is different on each circle. 9 and 11 share the same intensity, but 10 is more subtle, yet they share the same distance and have a pattern that suggest they're all the same intensity. It seems like you've acknowledged this with your hitsounds, but not through the mapping. Since this is just a repeat of the first part, you could just recreate the same concept since it's nothing new.
00:33:784 (1,2) - 1 ends on a beat stronger than 2, because of that the rhythm is inaccurate. The priority on the end of 1 is stronger than 2, the player is left confused as sliders typically start on strong beats. Same issue with 00:34:913 (3,4) - Except here you used a longer slider to show the exaggeration, but what exaggeration? All the exaggeration is on 1, yet you split it into 2 notes which it isn't.
Also http://puu.sh/v9wrn/e03aa51f3a.jpg visual issue 00:35:558 (5,6) - here. It would look nicer if the slider was lined up with the lines.
00:37:655 (5,6,7,8) - I have questions about your patterning here. The first slider is mapped to the instruments, while the next 3 sliders are mapped to the lyrics. Despite the differences in where the sounds are coming from, you mapped them all as if they're coming from the same instrument. You need to contrast with a difference concept / pattern at 00:37:977 (6,7,8) -
00:38:865 (9) - This 1/4 jump has no support from the music. Yea it's there, but because it's stacked on 1 it's grouped with it. You're better of having that circle under the head of 9.
Overall I don't think the set is ready yet. It's needs some more polishing.
Good luck though.
I've only looked at the last diff btw.
00:24:590 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - What's supporting the taps here? It's the same rhythm as 00:21:687 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - There's 2 issues I have with this decisions. One being you used a different concept to map a repeated section. This part is no different than the first, so there's no need for a new concept yet.
Also is the combination of hits with the circles. 00:25:235 (9,10,11) - Here the intensity is different on each circle. 9 and 11 share the same intensity, but 10 is more subtle, yet they share the same distance and have a pattern that suggest they're all the same intensity. It seems like you've acknowledged this with your hitsounds, but not through the mapping. Since this is just a repeat of the first part, you could just recreate the same concept since it's nothing new.
00:33:784 (1,2) - 1 ends on a beat stronger than 2, because of that the rhythm is inaccurate. The priority on the end of 1 is stronger than 2, the player is left confused as sliders typically start on strong beats. Same issue with 00:34:913 (3,4) - Except here you used a longer slider to show the exaggeration, but what exaggeration? All the exaggeration is on 1, yet you split it into 2 notes which it isn't.
Also http://puu.sh/v9wrn/e03aa51f3a.jpg visual issue 00:35:558 (5,6) - here. It would look nicer if the slider was lined up with the lines.
00:37:655 (5,6,7,8) - I have questions about your patterning here. The first slider is mapped to the instruments, while the next 3 sliders are mapped to the lyrics. Despite the differences in where the sounds are coming from, you mapped them all as if they're coming from the same instrument. You need to contrast with a difference concept / pattern at 00:37:977 (6,7,8) -
00:38:865 (9) - This 1/4 jump has no support from the music. Yea it's there, but because it's stacked on 1 it's grouped with it. You're better of having that circle under the head of 9.
Overall I don't think the set is ready yet. It's needs some more polishing.
Good luck though.
Topic Starter
thx monstrata for the reply while i was at school!
Bubblun wrote:
Hey, I was told about this and I'd like to hear your reasoning for some decisions.
I've only looked at the last diff btw.
00:24:590 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - What's supporting the taps here? It's the same rhythm as 00:21:687 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - There's 2 issues I have with this decisions. One being you used a different concept to map a repeated section. This part is no different than the first, so there's no need for a new concept yet.
Also is the combination of hits with the circles. 00:25:235 (9,10,11) - Here the intensity is different on each circle. 9 and 11 share the same intensity, but 10 is more subtle, yet they share the same distance and have a pattern that suggest they're all the same intensity. It seems like you've acknowledged this with your hitsounds, but not through the mapping. Since this is just a repeat of the first part, you could just recreate the same concept since it's nothing new.It's just really simple to justify this pattern man,00:21:687 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - this is the first vocal section of the drum build up / vocal pattern... so I don't want to full jump this section because 00:24:590 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - here as you can see the vocals are increasing, so I want to build up this section with intense jump, that's all, also every notes has 1/2 constant rythmns supporting those. So I won't change this because I want to keep my built up emphasis.
00:33:784 (1,2) - 1 ends on a beat stronger than 2, because of that the rhythm is inaccurate. The priority on the end of 1 is stronger than 2, the player is left confused as sliders typically start on strong beats. Same issue with 00:34:913 (3,4) - Except here you used a longer slider to show the exaggeration, but what exaggeration? All the exaggeration is on 1, yet you split it into 2 notes which it isn't. I already explained that in the mod above, I want to give more intensity on the vocals but still following the drums rythmn wise. 00:34:913 (3) - this note is the last vocal of this section, so I want to emphasis it but still following 00:35:074 (4) - claps like this one anyway. spacing everything would've been a mess because the player don't know what is propelly emphasized anyway. So rythmn is correct since i'm following all the rythmns (vocals + drums) and spacing is ok aswell since i want to focus more on vocals.
Also http://puu.sh/v9wrn/e03aa51f3a.jpg visual issue 00:35:558 (5,6) - here. It would look nicer if the slider was lined up with the lines. "Visual issue" ?? Wat.. It's just aesthetics dude, i have no problem with this visuals.
00:37:655 (5,6,7,8) - I have questions about your patterning here. The first slider is mapped to the instruments, while the next 3 sliders are mapped to the lyrics. Despite the differences in where the sounds are coming from, you mapped them all as if they're coming from the same instrument. You need to contrast with a difference concept / pattern at 00:37:977 (6,7,8) - I can agree with you but I wanted a build up by using the V flow spacing, to catch the vocals correctly, and the drums here was part of this pattern, since i didn't decide to NC it.. I like to change my flow when I NC a note.
00:38:865 (9) - This 1/4 jump has no support from the music. Yea it's there, but because it's stacked on 1 it's grouped with it. You're better of having that circle under the head of 9. Do you think so? I hear 1/4, I hear hard drums and I hear loud vocals, what tells you I can use this spacing ? Not fixing that.
Overall I don't think the set is ready yet. It's needs some more polishing. I don't think, according to your modding, you are qualify enough to judge if a map is not polished enough to be ready. Your mods are only really subjective reasons, and personnal opinions. Which is not wrong tho, but it's not the kind of mod you want for qualified maps. Every maps can't apply opinions of everyones, the mapper has priority on it since it's his way to interpret the song by his mapping.
Good luck though. Thanks for modding!
Just a quick opinion. Not going to comment on everything because I can't speak for Sotarks or Kalibe's reasoning for every pattern.Bubblun wrote:
Hey, I was told about this and I'd like to hear your reasoning for some decisions.
I've only looked at the last diff btw.
00:24:590 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - What's supporting the taps here? It's the same rhythm as 00:21:687 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - There's 2 issues I have with this decisions. One being you used a different concept to map a repeated section. This part is no different than the first, so there's no need for a new concept yet.
Also is the combination of hits with the circles. 00:25:235 (9,10,11) - Here the intensity is different on each circle. 9 and 11 share the same intensity, but 10 is more subtle, yet they share the same distance and have a pattern that suggest they're all the same intensity. It seems like you've acknowledged this with your hitsounds, but not through the mapping. Since this is just a repeat of the first part, you could just recreate the same concept since it's nothing new.
00:33:784 (1,2) - 1 ends on a beat stronger than 2, because of that the rhythm is inaccurate. The priority on the end of 1 is stronger than 2, the player is left confused as sliders typically start on strong beats. Same issue with 00:34:913 (3,4) - Except here you used a longer slider to show the exaggeration, but what exaggeration? All the exaggeration is on 1, yet you split it into 2 notes which it isn't. This rhythm is fine. You see this a lot in maps nowadays. It's just a different rhythm choice here, which is consistent with the rhythm choice in the map. There are always many ways to express a song's rhythm. If you want to say it's inaccurate, it's better to argue along the lines of "the rhythm doesn't complement the layer you appear to be mapping to" rather than "the rhythm doesn't follow a beat I consider to be stronger"
Also http://puu.sh/v9wrn/e03aa51f3a.jpg visual issue 00:35:558 (5,6) - here. It would look nicer if the slider was lined up with the lines. This really depends on the mapper's aesthetics.
00:37:655 (5,6,7,8) - I have questions about your patterning here. The first slider is mapped to the instruments, while the next 3 sliders are mapped to the lyrics. Despite the differences in where the sounds are coming from, you mapped them all as if they're coming from the same instrument. You need to contrast with a difference concept / pattern at 00:37:977 (6,7,8) -
00:38:865 (9) - This 1/4 jump has no support from the music. Yea it's there, but because it's stacked on 1 it's grouped with it. You're better of having that circle under the head of 9. There's definitely support from the music...
Overall I don't think the set is ready yet. It's needs some more polishing.
Good luck though.
Sotarks wrote:
Dafuq, i'll reply to this after class.
thx monstrata for the reply while i was at school!Bubblun wrote:
My response is in blue
Overall I don't think the set is ready yet. It's needs some more polishing. I don't think, according to your modding, you are qualify enough to judge if a map is not polished enough to be ready. Your mods are only really subjective reasons, and personnal opinions. Which is not wrong tho, but it's not the kind of mod you want for qualified maps. When it comes to ranking a map logical reasoning > opinion. So far you apply anything you like rather than what actually makes the map better. Every maps can't apply opinions of everyones, the mapper has priority on it since it's his way to interpret the song by his mapping. This isn't supposed to be a personal attack on you, but your 'interpretation' isn't always going to be accurate. Maybe if this map was for loved you could get away with saying that, but for ranking you need to be objective. Also, the mapper doesn't have priority because whether a map gets ranked or not is completely up to the nominators who look at the map.
Good luck though. Thanks for modding!
Topic Starter
Sotarks wrote:
Dafuq, i'll reply to this after class.
thx monstrata for the reply while i was at school!Bubblun wrote:
My reponse is in orange
Overall I don't think the set is ready yet. It's needs some more polishing. I don't think, according to your modding, you are qualify enough to judge if a map is not polished enough to be ready. Your mods are only really subjective reasons, and personnal opinions. Which is not wrong tho, but it's not the kind of mod you want for qualified maps. When it comes to ranking a map logical reasoning > opinion. So far you apply anything you like rather than what actually makes the map better. Every maps can't apply opinions of everyones, the mapper has priority on it since it's his way to interpret the song by his mapping. This isn't supposed to be a personal attack on you, but your 'interpretation' isn't always going to be accurate. Maybe if this map was for loved you could get away with saying that, but for ranking you need to be objective. Also, the mapper doesn't have priority because whether a map gets ranked or not is completely up to the nominators who look at the map. I already had losts of opinions, feedback, modding, testplays, to affirm that this map is ready to be in the ranked section. I didn't take that like an attack it's like i interpret that alphabet modded, and he called his friend to mod it to, since i declined everything he called another friends and seem like you guys just want to get DQ my map with really subjective reasons that I don't agree with, some concers are valid but it's still your opinions, and those concerns won't affect map quality so far. I would like to end the disscusion here if possible.
Good luck though. Thanks for modding!
Now I'm going to say something about Kalibe's diff, but in Polish... Why? Because he has to deal with his problems by himself, and not ask some other guys to protect him like he's a baby or something... And Sotarks, don't you even try to translate google things I'm going to write to him. It's his problem, not yours.
To Sotarks / To Kalibe
00:05:397 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Sounds are the same in the music and you still increased the spacing. This has nothing to do with what is in the music. This is RHYTHM GAME, not fcking wrist-breaker
00:07:494 (2,3,4,5,6) - This stream is wrongly blanketed with (1) circle
00:07:977 (1,2,1,2) - Here, you did constant snapping instead... Maybe it's finally time to make patterns that has sense to music or else just stop mapping?
00:11:365 (6,8,9,10) - If (6) slider is straight, why (8,9,10) are curved? Explain it to me because it has no sense, it just looks horrible
00:13:945 (6,8,9,10) - On the other hand, here, there are no straight sliders. You can't even keep the patterns constant throughout the song...
00:34:913 (3) - This is wrongly blanketed, and dont tell me this is "aesthetics" because it has nothing to do with aesthetics.. (explanation is below)
00:35:558 (5,6) - Same here... I saw you were already discussing this thing here, and I don't fucking understand why you are so against moving these two objects couple of pixels further to either blanket with the slider, and also keeping equal distances from the slider itself. On the other hand you are complaining that this is aesthetics... Then let's say you are in school, Art lesson, and you have to draw a circle as good as possible, and you draw an egg shape (intentionally). If you will say this is a circle for you, it isn't a circle for everybody else, because for everybody else its an egg shape. Then you cry that you got a bad grade... just... don't be a jerk and sometimes listen to others...
00:37:332 (3) - You can move it a one pixel closer to a slider
00:41:687 (2,3,4) - I don't understand why you won't start with the full spacing, but you start with the half of it. The song doesn't change here. Of course, the vocals are ascending, but you don't increase the spacing evenly with the vocal... the build-up you've done is unjustifiable.
00:45:719 (5,6,7,8) - Similar situation here, you should evenly increase spacing of this pattern with the vocals. You can't just put circles how you want them to be. This is rhythm game!!
I think you just took your job of pp mapper too seriously, and you can't make a proper map anymore without putting unnecessary jumps...
01:03:433 (6,1) - I don't get it, why is there a lower spacing? It's misleading..
01:20:753 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - the beat is constant here, why are you increasing the spacing? This hasn't got to do with anything that is happening in the song. Jumps here should be constantly snapped.
Your part is pretty clean and good.
Overall, I think there is too big difficulty spike between both of parts. Either Sotarks's part is too hard, or Kalibe''s part is too easy. This shouldn't be ranked at all and should be repaired ASAP.
To Sotarks / To Kalibe
00:05:397 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Sounds are the same in the music and you still increased the spacing. This has nothing to do with what is in the music. This is RHYTHM GAME, not fcking wrist-breaker
00:07:494 (2,3,4,5,6) - This stream is wrongly blanketed with (1) circle
00:07:977 (1,2,1,2) - Here, you did constant snapping instead... Maybe it's finally time to make patterns that has sense to music or else just stop mapping?
00:11:365 (6,8,9,10) - If (6) slider is straight, why (8,9,10) are curved? Explain it to me because it has no sense, it just looks horrible
00:13:945 (6,8,9,10) - On the other hand, here, there are no straight sliders. You can't even keep the patterns constant throughout the song...
00:34:913 (3) - This is wrongly blanketed, and dont tell me this is "aesthetics" because it has nothing to do with aesthetics.. (explanation is below)
00:35:558 (5,6) - Same here... I saw you were already discussing this thing here, and I don't fucking understand why you are so against moving these two objects couple of pixels further to either blanket with the slider, and also keeping equal distances from the slider itself. On the other hand you are complaining that this is aesthetics... Then let's say you are in school, Art lesson, and you have to draw a circle as good as possible, and you draw an egg shape (intentionally). If you will say this is a circle for you, it isn't a circle for everybody else, because for everybody else its an egg shape. Then you cry that you got a bad grade... just... don't be a jerk and sometimes listen to others...
00:37:332 (3) - You can move it a one pixel closer to a slider
00:41:687 (2,3,4) - I don't understand why you won't start with the full spacing, but you start with the half of it. The song doesn't change here. Of course, the vocals are ascending, but you don't increase the spacing evenly with the vocal... the build-up you've done is unjustifiable.
00:45:719 (5,6,7,8) - Similar situation here, you should evenly increase spacing of this pattern with the vocals. You can't just put circles how you want them to be. This is rhythm game!!
I think you just took your job of pp mapper too seriously, and you can't make a proper map anymore without putting unnecessary jumps...
01:03:433 (6,1) - I don't get it, why is there a lower spacing? It's misleading..
01:20:753 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - the beat is constant here, why are you increasing the spacing? This hasn't got to do with anything that is happening in the song. Jumps here should be constantly snapped.
Your part is pretty clean and good.
Overall, I think there is too big difficulty spike between both of parts. Either Sotarks's part is too hard, or Kalibe''s part is too easy. This shouldn't be ranked at all and should be repaired ASAP.
Topic Starter
Hey wtf those are my parts xD
You want Kalibe to reply for me lol ? And why you guys are losing your Time here zzz
You want Kalibe to reply for me lol ? And why you guys are losing your Time here zzz