Zhao Wei - Qing Shen Shen Yu Meng Meng · forum

Shad0w1and

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2017-02-23T03:16:10+00:00

all fix. except
atrue the stream is fine.
Net0 no fix on the shape they are fine to me. not 1/12 that is a over kill. those triplet all have rhythm support so no change.

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Pata-Mon

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Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2017-02-23T11:21:24+00:00

Net0 wrote:
Small mod as requested IRC

[ Pata-Mon's Normal ]
Both of this patterns are actually blanketing 00:00:877 (1,2) - /00:04:406 (1,2) - while this one isn’t 00:07:935 (1,2) – even tho they’re VERY similar. It’s just a small suggestion, but can you make the last one blanket as well in the same visual idea as the previous ones? ahh that's ok, need some diversity
The rhythm here is not very clear 00:35:582 (3,1,2,3) - . The first and second sliders are clearly on vocal 00:35:582 (3,1) -, but the next ones 00:36:759 (2,3) – feels really off with it. Try this https://puu.sh/ufzjN.jpg and tell me if it feels better with vocals. vocal is on: 00:36:171 - 00:36:759 - 00:37:347 - 00:37:641 - so I use these sliders 00:36:171 (1,2) -
Make similar design between this two 02:06:170 (1,2) - for mostly polishment

This soap opera look as dramatic as brazillian ones lmao. Good luck with this set

no change but thx

F D Flourite

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Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2017-02-24T12:20:16+00:00

Placeholder. 我今晚先要看片，什么时候摸图随缘了>w<

ZekeyHache

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Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-03-01T01:37:54+00:00

oh

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2017-03-02T16:19:51+00:00

ezek wrote:
oh

~~if you want to mod this map, feel free to go ahead~~ RIP

欢迎收看鸽王争霸赛

[General]

有metadata reference吗？为何赵薇是繁体？虽然视频里的是繁体的但是你拿到的可能是台版的？到底是台版先播还是大陆版先播啊？
如果，你在用红线改重音位置的话（的确副歌部分的重音不统一），那01:13:229 - （一曲高歌千行泪）和（盼来盼去盼不尽）为何不加红线？尤其是后面的01:59:111 - 02:18:522 -

[Romance in the Rain]

00:09:406 (4,1) - 讲道理你这个既不是antiflow也不是jump，没有强调不好。建议把这个改成这样，虽然后面有很多overlap要跟着改
00:13:229 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Hmm, overmap姑且不说，毕竟还是算比较有理有据的。但是这个连打距离最好缩小。因为这里是个intro，节奏递增，放个这么大的距离在这里，比后面的滑条跳还难多了。可后面的滑条跳才是这一段的重音啊。
01:02:347 (6,1) - 这个stack搞得我有点懵。后面那个“世”距离强调起来会比较好玩吧，毕竟是新一句的开头。01:02:347 (6) - 把这个6放到01:01:759 (4) - 下面不好吗？4可以稍微往上挪一点。
01:12:641 (3,1) - 这个有点平淡了。本来01:12:641 (3) - 可以拆成2个点的（你前面跟vocal嘛，一个字一个note）。然后后面的距离也很平淡。尽量能拉大点比较好
01:13:229 (1,2,3,4) - 距离不要递增。维稳或者递减更对得上音乐。
01:19:700 (3) - ctrl+G?
01:23:524 (6) - 同之前的，把它放到01:22:494 (2,3) - 上面做个三角跳
01:30:583 (5) - 往上放，可以放到391,79。我觉得这个vocal音高很适合做强调。你看01:29:700 (3,4,5) - 音高递增距离递增嘛
01:37:936 (1) - 真·不好看，这里的一波三折没对上什么颤音，而且前面的弧度实在是做的太随便了
01:57:052 (5) - 稍微再往左放一点
02:15:875 (4,5) - 同样可以放大距离
02:19:699 (3) - 一是和02:18:522 (1) - 擦到了不好看，二是02:19:699 (3,4) - 我感觉这两个的Y轴距离可以拉大。因为这里是一个明显的vocal tone down，有一个明显往下的flow感觉会不错

[Pata-Mon's Normal]

圈最好大一点。Normal和Hard CS一样会被挑。你这图基本上所有梗在CS3下都work。所以CS3~3.2吧。HP也可以-0.5。毕竟节奏其实并不友好，只是没过2*而已。
02:03:523 (2,2) - 迷之unstack...stack不好吗？
好像没啥

call me back after having the timing issue solved. (downbeat at least)

Shad0w1and

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Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2017-03-04T23:58:13+00:00

??? 不是说的你不摸这个了吗。。。完了BN找多了。。。

F D Flourite wrote:
ezek wrote:
oh
~~if you want to mod this map, feel free to go ahead~~ RIP

欢迎收看鸽王争霸赛

[General]
有metadata reference吗？为何赵薇是繁体？虽然视频里的是繁体的但是你拿到的可能是台版的？到底是台版先播还是大陆版先播啊？看cw
如果，你在用红线改重音位置的话（的确副歌部分的重音不统一），那01:13:229 - （一曲高歌千行泪）和（盼来盼去盼不尽）为何不加红线？尤其是后面的01:59:111 - 02:18:522 - 我认为不是明显的重音改变没有必要按照finish红线种草
[Romance in the Rain]
00:09:406 (4,1) - 讲道理你这个既不是antiflow也不是jump，没有强调不好。建议把这个改成这样，虽然后面有很多overlap要跟着改？？？在这个间距速度下面不需要靠Jump来强调什么beat啊？
00:13:229 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Hmm, overmap姑且不说，毕竟还是算比较有理有据的。但是这个连打距离最好缩小。因为这里是个intro，节奏递增，放个这么大的距离在这里，比后面的滑条跳还难多了。可后面的滑条跳才是这一段的重音啊。
01:02:347 (6,1) - 这个stack搞得我有点懵。后面那个“世”距离强调起来会比较好玩吧，毕竟是新一句的开头。01:02:347 (6) - 把这个6放到01:01:759 (4) - 下面不好吗？4可以稍微往上挪一点。停顿也是一种强调，我觉得没什么问题，这处理是故意留给第一段kiai减难度的
01:12:641 (3,1) - 这个有点平淡了。本来01:12:641 (3) - 可以拆成2个点的（你前面跟vocal嘛，一个字一个note）。然后后面的距离也很平淡。尽量能拉大点比较好并不需要强调每个重音都用间距，更别说这一个地方在我眼里没有特殊的小段强度，不像最后面两个kiai有finish，目前这种特殊处理我也是只用在downbeat的，不然老实讲第二段我可不就直接拷贝第一段了么？这两段是有区别的。
01:13:229 (1,2,3,4) - 距离不要递增。维稳或者递减更对得上音乐。按照目前这种图风，不可能用等间距排好看，这里难度也没有任何爆炸。。
01:19:700 (3) - ctrl+G? 不需要，每个重音都强调，那么图就完全一样了。我不认为在整体难度正常的情况下间距需要处理得每个downbeat都一样
01:23:524 (6) - 同之前的，把它放到01:22:494 (2,3) - 上面做个三角跳同前面一样
01:30:583 (5) - 往上放，可以放到391,79。我觉得这个vocal音高很适合做强调。你看01:29:700 (3,4,5) - 音高递增距离递增嘛
01:37:936 (1) - 真·不好看，这里的一波三折没对上什么颤音，而且前面的弧度实在是做的太随便了没差。。
01:57:052 (5) - 稍微再往左放一点
02:15:875 (4,5) - 同样可以放大距离
02:19:699 (3) - 一是和02:18:522 (1) - 擦到了不好看，二是02:19:699 (3,4) - 我感觉这两个的Y轴距离可以拉大。因为这里是一个明显的vocal tone down，有一个明显往下的flow感觉会不错改了一点，感觉都差不多

call me back after having the timing issue solved. (downbeat at least)

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2017-03-05T04:51:45+00:00

除了hp都改了．低难度我比较习惯hp=od
谢摸

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ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-03-06T04:56:08+00:00

Hello~
[Pata-Mon's Normal]
I already picked the updated version from the post~

From 02:25:581 - to 02:35:875 - the patterns are denser than the highest diff, better have a look on that to make them equal or simpler.

[Romance in the Rain]

00:34:112 - This space has potential to have a note~ Also, the Normal diff has a note here, so it is awkward to skip it here, in the high diff~
00:50:288 (1) - It would feel better of you curve it upwards because the flow would be consistent, like this. Previous notes (00:46:759 (1,2,3,4) - ) and following notes (00:50:288 (1,2,3,4) - ) use a counterclockwise circular flow and this specific slider breaks the consistency, which makes it feel awkward to play.
00:53:818 (1,2) - Not an important suggestion here. What about using the shape of (2) on (1) to make this nice-looking pattern?
00:59:112 (1) - I highly suggest a jump here since this is an important beat. You made a jump at 01:18:524 (1) - so for the sake of consistency as well.
01:00:877 (1) - and 01:20:288 (1) - deserve to be jumps as well imo. On a side note, they have different spacing. Also, compare with 01:46:758 (1) - & 02:06:169 (1) - and try to be consistent since they're basically the same in the music.
01:56:464 (4,5) - I don't know how to put this into words, but the transition between these two objects feels uncomfortable for me, maybe test more the pattern. Here I have a suggestion I believe it feels a lot better to play~ (omg lady don't eat that slider!).
01:58:817 (4) - Why is the jump from (3) bigger when (1) is clearly stronger?

Feel free to call me back after you're done with your discussion with FD~

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2017-03-06T05:32:02+00:00

ezek wrote:
Hello~
[Romance in the Rain]
00:34:112 - This space has potential to have a note~ Also, the Normal diff has a note here, so it is awkward to skip it here, in the high diff~ fixed spacing, but this entire section i only followed vocal, so not filling that space.
00:50:288 (1) - It would feel better of you curve it upwards because the flow would be consistent, like this. Previous notes (00:46:759 (1,2,3,4) - ) and following notes (00:50:288 (1,2,3,4) - ) use a counterclockwise circular flow and this specific slider breaks the consistency, which makes it feel awkward to play. I understand the idea, but my style has shifted from that to current mapping because i believe current style will not affect playability and also makes the map more fun(if you check my old map you will find i did what you say)
00:53:818 (1,2) - Not an important suggestion here. What about using the shape of (2) on (1) to make this nice-looking pattern? change to another but should be better as well
00:59:112 (1) - I highly suggest a jump here since this is an important beat. You made a jump at 01:18:524 (1) - so for the sake of consistency as well.
01:00:877 (1) - and 01:20:288 (1) - deserve to be jumps as well imo. On a side note, they have different spacing. Also, compare with 01:46:758 (1) - & 02:06:169 (1) - and try to be consistent since they're basically the same in the music. it is a starting of the next section, the NC would be more than enough to highlight it. when it comes to the play, you will find it does not really give much more help when you increase DS on it. and the second paragraph is actually different, the 01:44:994 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - is stronger, and the instruments are also different, and that is why i even changed the clap on second paragraph.
01:56:464 (4,5) - I don't know how to put this into words, but the transition between these two objects feels uncomfortable for me, maybe test more the pattern. Here I have a suggestion I believe it feels a lot better to play~ (omg lady don't eat that slider!).
01:58:817 (4) - Why is the jump from (3) bigger when (1) is clearly stronger? 01:58:523 (3) - is a starting of new sentence,
i think it worth a jump, and according to experience, the change of flow will make a highlight already so it is not that important, also the constant jump usually stacks the difficulty on the last note, regardless of minor spacing difference. I think current should be fine (or I have to change a lot stuff xc)
Feel free to call me back after you're done with your discussion with FD~

Pata-Mon's Normal also fixed!
Pata-Mon's Normal also fixed!
Pata-Mon's Normal also fixed!
Pata-Mon's Normal also fixed!
Pata-Mon's Normal also fixed!

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F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2017-03-06T05:56:40+00:00

alright. after playing the map for several times, I guess the thing that I concerned doesn't matter. So here we go~

Pata-Mon

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Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2017-03-06T13:03:41+00:00

adjust something tiny

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