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Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass

Two wrote:

Losing with a score of 12-3 probably has something to do with the fact that it's a team game.
If he played only by himself he wouldn't have 12 kills; he only got 3 during laning.

Two wrote:

It's also important to realize that even if you kill someone 12 times, you still may not be playing well.
Um he didn't score all 12 kills on the same person. If he really was bad at carrying he'd have more deaths than kills ?_?

Two wrote:

I see people whining about feeders all the time, but never do they lift a finger to help those lanes.
So what are you supposed to do other than telling those feeders to start being more cautious, leaving your own lane so it gets destroyed? Don't even suggest swapping lanes. If any of those feeders came to the middle they'd get ganked even harder.

oh also Lybydose you misspelt my name in your first post; it's Disillude not Dissilude
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

are you trying to say I'm bad? Surely after seeing your twitch you have no room to talk.
You got crushed by a group of random people in that game, if you really want to bring it up.
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
2,024 posts
Joined January 2009
Topic Starter
Lybydose
Last Whisper is a terrible item for twitch unless the other team is stacking armor (which they weren't, no one even had any armor items except MF's tabi and Mundo's Doran shield). You don't need any attack speed items because Ambush + Ult already gives you more than enough.

Glass wrote:

oh also Lybydose you misspelt my name in your first post; it's Disillude not Dissilude
Blame yyy, he wrote all that.

Two wrote:

You got crushed by a group of random people in that game, if you really want to bring it up.
You had more players on your team than us.
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass

Two wrote:

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

are you trying to say I'm bad? Surely after seeing your twitch you have no room to talk.
You got crushed by a group of random people in that game, if you really want to bring it up.
3 premades + 1 random vs 5 randoms still isn't fair unless none of your teammates could understand even the simplest terms (MIAs, b, push) at all, it's easy to coordinate as long they understand those.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
The tears of defeat are the most delicious kind.
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass
Our tears of defeat(as if we shed any, LOL) tasted good? I'm surprised it still left an after-taste after such a long time. I guess it's probably because you haven't won any games with your trash Twitch since then eh. It's okay, sooner or later you'll finally win another 5v4 on that whatever rightclick champ.

and jfyi this thread was never meant for starting shit.
kuyukiP
365 posts
Joined May 2009
kuyukiP
Lux.
Nice OP you got there.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old

Glass wrote:

and jfyi this thread was never meant for starting shit.
I was just pointing out that it's possible to do well score-wise and still be a bad player. yeahyeahyeahhh decided to take that personally and so I responded appropriately. As I said first and foremost in this thread, not only do I not play twitch but I am not that good at the game. However, I disagree that 5 random people have an advantage over a premade of 3 + 1 random.
Gabi
2,554 posts
Joined December 2008
Gabi

Two wrote:

However, I disagree that 5 random people have an advantage over a premade of 3 + 1 random.
wait what? :roll:

Anyways the key to win is teamplay and game sense.
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Fabi
1,130 posts
Joined September 2009
Fabi
The key for this type of game.

PD: Im lvl 12 >_<
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
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Joined December 2008
yeahyeahyeahhh

Two wrote:

Glass wrote:

and jfyi this thread was never meant for starting shit.
I was just pointing out that it's possible to do well score-wise and still be a bad player. yeahyeahyeahhh decided to take that personally and so I responded appropriately. As I said first and foremost in this thread, not only do I not play twitch but I am not that good at the game. However, I disagree that 5 random people have an advantage over a premade of 3 + 1 random.
a team of 4 will always have a disadvantage vs a team of 5, premade or not. We had to beat in kills and everything, but since we only had 4 players we would always come out low and never could push because always had to defend cause we were minus one. A fight where we die ( even ONE of us and the rest escape/has to heal) gives your team the advantage to push greatly. If you think 4v5 isnt a disadvantage well... you really are dumb,
maay
410 posts
Joined September 2009
maay

I got the game from a friend (XmiGoL @pic) yesterday and have played 10 matches so far. I quite liked Soraka.
The only game feature I dislike so far is the gay invisible-fog thingy :/
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
I suggest that your first 3150 points goes towards garen, and then towards tier 3 runes.
maay
410 posts
Joined September 2009
maay
I played him once and didn't like him much. Boring to play, melee ult, third skill doesn't give magic immunity and therefore loses its potential quite quickly as the game grows, and so on. I liked his base skill and the 1st skill, though.

Another thing I dislike is that some heroes do not have mana, that's gay >:

I'll probably be buying either Soraka or that boomerang girl, I guess. I might buy Garen when I get access to the last rune (Blink, was it? The one that instantly teleports you to a short distance)...

Edit: maybe I should just save my points until I learn to play so that I don't end up wasting them >.>
Fabi
1,130 posts
Joined September 2009
Fabi
Seems you like supporter heroes hehe.
Gabi
2,554 posts
Joined December 2008
Gabi
What's happening to the world

thethorndog
33 posts
Joined April 2009
thethorndog
6 wins and 4 loses, u guys are a bunch of noobs :P, beat my 445 wins 234 loses xD
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass
no one gives a shit br0
Firo Prochainezo
2,140 posts
Joined June 2010
Firo Prochainezo

thethorndog wrote:

6 wins and 4 loses, u guys are a bunch of noobs :P, beat my 445 wins 234 loses xD
lol faggot.
Fabi
1,130 posts
Joined September 2009
Fabi

Firo Prochainezo wrote:

thethorndog wrote:

6 wins and 4 loses, u guys are a bunch of noobs :P, beat my 445 wins 234 loses xD
lol faggot.
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
2,850 posts
Joined December 2008
yeahyeahyeahhh
Notice something awesome?

Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
Well, if I was on your team I'd think their use of heimerdinger and urgot was awesome.
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
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yeahyeahyeahhh

Two wrote:

Well, if I was on your team I'd think their use of heimerdinger and urgot was awesome.
The hell are you talking about

Something wrong with heimer?

Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Something wrong with heimer?
Yes. There still would be something wrong with him if your score was 40/0.
Gabi
2,554 posts
Joined December 2008
Gabi


In the end there i almost 2 hit their whole team ^^
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Notice something awesome?

Image
Best part of that game : Garen chases Singed all the way across the bottom side of the map, gets Adhesive'd on a tower and dies.
Fabi
1,130 posts
Joined September 2009
Fabi
So guys, what do you think is better, farm or permagank?
maay
410 posts
Joined September 2009
maay
wouldnt that depend on your hero/team
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass
Farming during early game is almost always better unless your champion is really bad at laning. Ganking is also risky; if your ganks fail, not only you'll be low on gold, you'll be behind in term of levels too. Even if you're playing a jungling hero, it's usually jungle till level 4-6 then come out and gank.
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yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
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yeahyeahyeahhh

Ever17 wrote:

So guys, what do you think is better, farm or permagank?
Here's what I do. Farm for 15 mins then rape shit. I honestly don't try to do anything but farming for the first 15 mins unless one of the lanes are getting wreck and really needs help, or I was just ambushed and have to go heal real quick. 15 mins if I'm have a good farming game I'll easily have 3k gold on any hero that isn't terrible at farming with 1 hero kill.
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
2,024 posts
Joined January 2009
Topic Starter
Lybydose
Here's what I do:

Kill some NPCs for like 4-5 minutes then GANK GANK GANK GANK GANK GANK GANK GANK
GladiOol
4,475 posts
Joined August 2008
GladiOol
Are heroes/items/spells the same as in DotA ?
Or is it just a rip-off and they make their own?
-Xero-
526 posts
Joined October 2009
-Xero-

GladiOol wrote:

Are heroes/items/spells the same as in DotA ?
Or is it just a rip-off and they make their own?
Some heroes/items/and most of all spells are simillar to the ones in DotA, but they did make their own and added cool new features like bushes.
maay
410 posts
Joined September 2009
maay
huh, that's weird. I thought it had nothing to do with DotA, except for the gameplay. The most similiar item I found was Thornmail, which resembles a bit of the old blade mail in DotA (the one that had passive 20% damage return).

oh, but then again, I've only played 20 matches
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
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Joined December 2008
yeahyeahyeahhh

GladiOol wrote:

Are heroes/items/spells the same as in DotA ?
Or is it just a rip-off and they make their own?
can't really say its a rip off when the creator of DoTA created LoL... well.. Kinda.. Eul did DoTA first but Gunisoo really id most of it.. If you say that then you basically have to say DoTA is a rip off of AoS.

Anyway, not they are. The only thing they have in common are gameplay.
Gabi
2,554 posts
Joined December 2008
Gabi

Ever17 wrote:

So guys, what do you think is better, farm or permagank?
It really depends on your hero and your playstyle. What is needed etc. For example if you play ashe, you don't want to gank too much before you hit lvl 6 cause you need farm. Evelyn on the other hand can start ganking at level 2.

@Gladi

This isn't really a DoTA rip-off seeing as the damage system/heroes/items are almost completely different which also features a THOUSAND bugs and server bugs :roll:

If you try it i think you should give it a good chance because the first time i tried it i hated it so much, but it grows on you ^^
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
everyone needs to try ap shaco at least once
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
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Joined December 2008
yeahyeahyeahhh
Holy shit, awesome game.

Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass
38 assists aw yee
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old
never played games like this, but everything has its beginning..

Europ. sever: sakujoyou
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass
I think I've completely lost hope in solo queue, earlier I played with some of the worst retards I've ever met on this game, seriously how the fuck do you let an enemy Rammus go 5:0 in the first 10 minutes thinking it's a good idea to chase him from the jungle and die towerdiving REPEATEDLY? And why do people NEVER(I'm not even exaggerating) buy wards, yet they still dare overextending and get ganked, oh wonders. This shit is beyond me.

Also I noticed there's some sort of correlation between grabbing ghost + flash and being a complete baddie.

Every solo queueing day is a losing streak day, yep.
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
2,024 posts
Joined January 2009
Topic Starter
Lybydose
Don't be hatin' on ghost/flash
Ephemeral
Inland Empire
3,963 posts
Joined April 2009
Ephemeral

Lybydose wrote:

Don't be hatin' on ghost/flash
TEACH ME YOUR MONSTER SHACO

I MUST KNOW

I WANT TO LEARN
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
2,850 posts
Joined December 2008
yeahyeahyeahhh

Ephemeral wrote:

Lybydose wrote:

Don't be hatin' on ghost/flash
TEACH ME YOUR MONSTER SHACO

I MUST KNOW

I WANT TO LEARN
Lybydose is bad at shaco,he just takes all my kills
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
2,850 posts
Joined December 2008
yeahyeahyeahhh
New champs not that bad, she indeed is kinda quarky to use, but not as hard as everyone is making it out to be. I still think Anivia is harder lol.

Typical statline in the 10 games I've played with here (cept my first where I was 0-5 loooool)

Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
I predict her q will get a range nerf
Gabi
2,554 posts
Joined December 2008
Gabi
Ugh, this game is really stupid,every 2 weeks they release a copied new hero that does the same shit as any other hero. This one is just like kassadin, except her damage output is far better.

Their rules of how to create a hero (anti-pattern, anti-fun etc) will really kill the game.

The new hero is fun to play.... for about 5 games after you totally wreck the shit out of everyone then she gets boring.
Digikid13
57 posts
Joined March 2010
Digikid13
:D LoL Yesh
ADD ME:
Digikid13
North America server.
My best game I think (I know I suck).
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old
Master Yi is an overpowered noob hero and I love him!!!! <3
Cyclone
osu! Hall of Famer
1,975 posts
Joined July 2008
Cyclone
Master Yi is 100% balanced. I would know, i play him more than anybody else.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
master yi is about as useful as sivir
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
2,024 posts
Joined January 2009
Topic Starter
Lybydose
Master Yi brings absolutely nothing to teamfights

...except penta kills.
Digikid13
57 posts
Joined March 2010
Digikid13
Don't be mad cause I'm totally (not) awesome.
Fabi
1,130 posts
Joined September 2009
Fabi
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old
nunu bot ftw


erm btw I can't login in the LoL forums.I just made another account and even with that acc I can't login in the forum.someone with the same prob?
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass
nunu bot ain't got shit on shen bot
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
I didn't realize how much they buffed teemo. He's awesome now.
Cyclone
osu! Hall of Famer
1,975 posts
Joined July 2008
Cyclone
Removing the gold you receive for killing his mushrooms was the biggest buff he got.
Cyclone
osu! Hall of Famer
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Cyclone
Yay, we got to play with elementz.

http://puu.sh/pct
Glass
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Joined January 2010
Glass
omg 4 deaths wat a feeder
Two_old
620 posts
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Two_old
I've been called a feeder with 1 death

the game really has an excellent community
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old
also depends on how silly your death was..
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass
No it doesn't. It only depends on how dumb your teammates are or how useless your champion seems to be. (e.g. play Eve, get blamed at no matter how well you did compared to the rest of your team)
Ephemeral
Inland Empire
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Ephemeral
yeah like if you play lux and get a pentakill with her ult if you die EVEN ONCE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE GAME half your team will immediately start cussing you out as a feeder
[DBF]
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Joined January 2009
[DBF]
Hey there.

I'm a pretty noob and i scared play ranked games, my normal stat is 50% win/lose because i sucks.

add me in thread list, please. Europe, DBF.
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old
yeah true, but for example if you want to tower dive and another champion interupts you and you strike him and after that the tower kills you and the gold and experience for the kill goes to the champion who only hit you once or twice.. well that's stupid feeding.i think these are pretty silly deaths but fortunately I'm getting out of this level where ppl do this.
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Lybydose
osu! Alumni
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Topic Starter
Lybydose
That's why you double tower dive up to the tier 2 tower as a level 4 Singed LIKE A BOSS, get a kill, and still escape from the other guy trying to kill you.

Best game ever.
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
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yeahyeahyeahhh
Look at the time, now at my score, quickly back to the time. You will see it was GG

noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old
whoa didnt the other people say miss and you stole 3 kills or have you done most of the work?
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
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yeahyeahyeahhh

noneed wrote:

whoa didnt the other people say miss and you stole 3 kills or have you done most of the work?
no lybydose found their olaf jungle before creeps spawn. I went down to help so did sona and alistar. I got olaf first, then tyran came and we killed him. Last came heimer, he almost got away with flash but alistar had flash too and knocked him in the air and i was able to double up for the 3rd kill :) BEST WAY TO START A GAME
Gabi
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Joined December 2008
Gabi
This picture will speak for itself



was critting 1300 YEAH
Decay
121 posts
Joined October 2009
Decay

Gabi wrote:

This picture will speak for itself



was critting 1300 YEAH
MAGEWICKS <3333

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Look at the time, now at my score, quickly back to the time. You will see it was GG

DONT GET TOO COCKY
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
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yeahyeahyeahhh
Shinde
osu! Alumni
707 posts
Joined April 2009
Shinde
Add me to member list Lyby.

IGN - ImaCuteLoli
Decay
121 posts
Joined October 2009
Decay
DjKniteX
9 posts
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DjKniteX
Daaaaang, I'm still only lvl 2, and I play the game from time to time, but not as much.... it's good when you have your buddies over to lan with XD
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
I was just in one of the worst games I've ever played. Our team was Janna (me), Irelia, Alistar, LeBlanc, and Ashe. It should be noted that I was locked in as janna before any of them even picked their champion. Right away alistar tells leblanc to go bottom with him and starts saying how he's br and the #1 alistar. I knew right then we'd lost, but decide to go bottom anyway and just refuse to leave. My whole team flips out and tells me how bad I am for not being able to solo a lane, without me saying a word. Long story short, ashe sucks as mid and dies multiple times to kennen, leblanc sucks entirely and is 0 kills most of the game, alistar initiates randomly, irelia is completely horrible and dies while trying to gank anyone, and the entire game the chat log was filled with how bad I am, even though I am the only one warding and using clairvoyance. Why can't they just ban Brazilian ips?
Lybydose
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Topic Starter
Lybydose

Shinde wrote:

Add me to member list Lyby.

IGN - ImaCuteLoli
wait what happened to iShinde?
Shinde
osu! Alumni
707 posts
Joined April 2009
Shinde

Lybydose wrote:

Shinde wrote:

Add me to member list Lyby.

IGN - ImaCuteLoli
wait what happened to iShinde?
I made a new account when I started to play LoL again since the other was from like 9 months ago and I blew a lot of IP on stuff and forgot how to play. My new acc is already a few levels higher anyways. :?
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
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yeahyeahyeahhh
When I play Sona in ranked games I feel so dirty. Its like an undetectable hack that everyone knows is out there... Though I guess I shouldn't feel bad seeing as how they didn't ban her.
Glass
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Glass
bump
Gabi
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Gabi
buuu was about to get a penta with trynda but the leblanc's passive + zhonyas delayed it >.<
-Xero-
526 posts
Joined October 2009
-Xero-
Nobody playing Shen here?
My favourite hero, got 37 assists out of 53 team kills last match :P.
Cyclone
osu! Hall of Famer
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Joined July 2008
Cyclone

Gabi wrote:

buuu was about to get a penta with trynda but the leblanc's passive + zhonyas delayed it >.<
Another day, another missed penta kill as Master Yi for Cyclone.

Highlights of my attempts to get a penta kill:

1. YeahYeahYeahhh (Rammus) Stealing kill number 5 with a Sunfire Cape. (Claims it was unintentional, but i know better :P)
2. Solo'd entire team. Got a triple, then a double because of Gold Card + Twilight Shroud. Couldn't not get kill 4 in time.
3. An earlier Version of Kog'Maw. Kog'Maw used to not award Deaths until he exploded.
4. Twitch Stealth
5. Several Other Quadra Kills.
Gabi
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Gabi
once again delayed penta-kill because of heimer nade stun+zhonyas....

hurrrrrrrrrrr i ran a wierd build with morder, but i was bashing out like 3k in 2 secs lol.

465 (counting jungle creeps)



oh yea, and we lost
mekadon_old
mekadon_old
So I made an account in LoL, downloaded, and ran it. I entered my ID and it says I can't login for I entered wrong information; although I properly put mine.
Shit I need help D:
Gabi
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Gabi
DEMACIA

yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
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yeahyeahyeahhh

Gabi wrote:

DEMACIA


haha this video aha
Gabi
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Joined December 2008
Gabi
Shurelia, Riot Admin, teaching you about zoning



I just want to shoot myself, didn't even manage to listen through half of it.

(Just noticed she's a touhou fag like me, she used Locked Girl and Bad Apple as BGM lol)
heintsi
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Joined January 2009
heintsi
oh damn dat voice is horrid
EDIT: First 15 secs were enough for me to pause the vid.
EDIT2: Out of curiosity i went to listen to it again, i'm now reaching 5 minute milestone. Hard to focus on learning though.
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
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yeahyeahyeahhh
fuck, put some damn cotton in her mouth

also anyone who get zoned by soraka is bad

HOW DOES A NASUS GET ZONED BY ANYONE?! IS IT 2v1 TOP?!
Gabi
2,554 posts
Joined December 2008
Gabi
This is the way Eve was meant to be played. I was tanking their fountain for about 20 sec while we aced their team inside it trololool

Ephemeral
Inland Empire
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Ephemeral


The game ended at 25 minutes. Team score was 13-1. I felt like Lybydose the entire time - had bloodrazors before 15 minutes, starks before 20

hexdrinker is also like the best item ever. it's practically a hard counter to karthus once a minute, since the shield will go off on the requiem counter debuff if you are below 30% health, practically eating the first two ranks of it without any spillover. it's eaten an akali mark, a dash, a null sphere which would have otherwise killed me, pantheon's ult, a bukkake shield which would have resulted in an ace for the enemy team and countless other occasions

300 magic damage doesn't sound like a whole lot but you'd be damn surprised how often it'll save you
Gabi
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Gabi
funniest game ever



GP managed to 1 hit karthus at one point when karthus wasn't fast enough with zhonya :)
lukewarmholiday
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Joined June 2008
lukewarmholiday

Gabi wrote:

funniest game ever



GP managed to 1 hit karthus at one point when karthus wasn't fast enough with zhonya :)
Alright I just had to comment that this is the best karthus build I have ever seen.
Gabi
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Joined December 2008
Gabi
o hi luke ^^

Yea, Both teams got aced at the same time at one point (lol) but karthus was dead way before that, we had 2 inhibs and a shit load of super minions in their base, then karthus came toggled on defile.... As he was walking past the fucking super minions it looked like they were getting sucked in lol. He cleared everything so fast.
lukewarmholiday
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Joined June 2008
lukewarmholiday
Also there is only one mention of taric in this entire thread no wonder I left.
Cyclone
osu! Hall of Famer
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Joined July 2008
Cyclone
Oh yeah I finally got my Penta Kill



And lost
kujosmurf
3 posts
Joined September 2010
kujosmurf
Anyone here want to play? I play on the NA server alot..

IGN-Experiments Lain Lv. 30

Prefer to play with other level 30s so that matchmaking won't be more messed up than it already is.
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old
lmfao someone QQing in the german forums that garen is so op and in the end we came up with so many garen jokes.

Garen accidentally stood on the enemy respawn point and was fully healed
Garen eats Teemo's shrooms
Garen eats Teemo
Once Garen went afk and got FB
When Garen enters the lane the minions go ragequitting
Once Annie did her ult on Garen.. he almost lost HP
Garen is ashamed of Xin
Even the France people win with Garen
Once they wanted to make a game mode.GarenV5.Garen thought this wouldn't be fair so it is now GarenV10
Once Garen did accidentally his w-skill instead of e and he got Pentakill
Garen buys in the enemy shop
Once Shaco asked:"Who is Garen?!" .. since then he wears the mask
Garen makes a spotlight on Phreak
When it comed to Garen all woman get weak.. even Taric

^^
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