1. Collab (5.62 stars, 1577 notes)

moph wrote:

thanks Rumia!

1. 00:48:093 (1,2) - Try moving this at around x:89 y:286 to keep the same visual distance pattern inside of the same combo so the blanket that comes next feels more structured
2. 00:52:343 (4,5,7,8,1) - I would make the blanket spacing equal here, the difference is kinda noticeable
3. 01:30:009 (2,1) - The stack here is kinda off because of the editor bug
4. 01:40:176 (2,3) - Could center 3 a bit to make the blanket look better inside of this pattern
5. 01:41:176 (1) - I don't really get why you extended this slider to the blue tick, how about making it end on the white or the red tick instead depending on what kind of impact you want the triple to have. I can hear that there's a really background sound but i don't think that's worth skipping the downbeat for it because it's not very distinct
6. 02:16:676 (1,2,3) - I think this would look better if you made something like this to have that sort of 1 and 2 fitting inside of each other because right now it feels like you made these slidershapes "just because" and also because you did it for the following similar patterns
7. 03:49:343 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think this looks much better and makes more sense with how you set up the triangle pattern right before with the 1/4 sliders

1. 00:26:009 (1,2,3,4) - Ctrl shift d to make the make the square more perfect
2. 00:30:843 (2,4) - Make the overlap consistent with 00:30:676 (1,3) -
3. 01:21:676 (2) - Looks kinda out of place spacing wise, feels a tad too much compared to the rest of the kiai, try reducing moving it towards the right a little bit?
4. 01:48:009 (1,2,3,4) - This feels really cramped to me because of the sudden "happy" feel in the song, try spreading everything up a bit, especially 2
5. 01:58:926 (2) - More personal but here i'd ctrl g this because the current orientation makes me think it's a rhythm that would go more like this, i think using slider leniency here is the way to go
6. 02:00:426 (3,4) - Swap these on the timeline? I think it would be better to have a double here instead of having the end of the 3/4 rhythm on the slider end, if that makes sense
7. 02:02:176 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - This would feel a lot better as 1/4 sliders imo because it would make the 1/2 guitar clickable instead of having a stream mapped to the background sounds
8. 02:06:676 (1,3) - Blanket mod xd (pointing this one out because it's uneven towards the slider start of 3)
9. 02:34:009 (4,5,6) - This triple doesn't feel very nice imo, it's better to start "overmapped" triples on the red tick to emphasize white ticks
10. 03:35:676 (3) - NC here? To make the really wide angle+high spacing more comfortable to read, also new instrument
11. 04:13:342 (9) - NC here too, downbeat+emphasis on the stop/finish
12. 04:34:676 (1) - I think this is a very polishable slidershape, since it's not justified by having "blankets" here so it looks rather unpolished because it's uneven
13. 04:39:843 (1,2) - I'd either swap NC or NC both here, not having it on the downbeat with the really strong guitar sound is kinda awkward imo
14. 04:43:843 (1,2) - This would make more sense to me if it were a 1/4 slider to follow guitar because you did it right after 04:44:509 (1,2,1,2) -

LeeSinOrAfk wrote:

Hey, NM from queue

Ambient :

1. 00:26:009 (1,2,3,4) - Ctrl shift d to make the make the square more perfect - Fixed!
2. 00:30:843 (2,4) - Make the overlap consistent with 00:30:676 (1,3) - - Fixed!
3. 01:21:676 (2) - Looks kinda out of place spacing wise, feels a tad too much compared to the rest of the kiai, try reducing moving it towards the right a little bit? - Reduced the spacing.
4. 01:48:009 (1,2,3,4) - This feels really cramped to me because of the sudden "happy" feel in the song, try spreading everything up a bit, especially 2- Free'd em up a bit
5. 01:58:926 (2) - More personal but here i'd ctrl g this because the current orientation makes me think it's a rhythm that would go more like this, i think using slider leniency here is the way to go - Went for my own thing here but i got the jist.
6. 02:00:426 (3,4) - Swap these on the timeline? I think it would be better to have a double here instead of having the end of the 3/4 rhythm on the slider end, if that makes sense - Fixed!
7. 02:02:176 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - This would feel a lot better as 1/4 sliders imo because it would make the 1/2 guitar clickable instead of having a stream mapped to the background sounds - Fixed!
8. 02:06:676 (1,3) - Blanket mod xd (pointing this one out because it's uneven towards the slider start of 3) - Fixed!
9. 02:34:009 (4,5,6) - This triple doesn't feel very nice imo, it's better to start "overmapped" triples on the red tick to emphasize white ticks - Fixed!
10. 03:35:676 (3) - NC here? To make the really wide angle+high spacing more comfortable to read, also new instrument - Fixed!
11. 04:13:342 (9) - NC here too, downbeat+emphasis on the stop/finish - Fixed!
12. 04:34:676 (1) - I think this is a very polishable slidershape, since it's not justified by having "blankets" here so it looks rather unpolished because it's uneven - Think i got it.
13. 04:39:843 (1,2) - I'd either swap NC or NC both here, not having it on the downbeat with the really strong guitar sound is kinda awkward imo - Fixed!
14. 04:43:843 (1,2) - This would make more sense to me if it were a 1/4 slider to follow guitar because you did it right after 04:44:509 (1,2,1,2) - - Fixed!

I guess that's all i got, the map is pretty clean, loved the guitar part

Hope any of this helped, good luck

LeeSinOrAfk wrote:

Moph :

1. 00:48:093 (1,2) - Try moving this at around x:89 y:286 to keep the same visual distance pattern inside of the same combo so the blanket that comes next feels more structured sort of prefer how it is sorry, did fix distance a little
2. 00:52:343 (4,5,7,8,1) - I would make the blanket spacing equal here, the difference is kinda noticeable sure thing
3. 01:30:009 (2,1) - The stack here is kinda off because of the editor bug fixed
4. 01:40:176 (2,3) - Could center 3 a bit to make the blanket look better inside of this pattern fixed
5. 01:41:176 (1) - I don't really get why you extended this slider to the blue tick, how about making it end on the white or the red tick instead depending on what kind of impact you want the triple to have. I can hear that there's a really background sound but i don't think that's worth skipping the downbeat for it because it's not very distinct I do see your point but I used an extended slider to really emphasize that triple, I'll silence the slider end if that helps. I'll consider changing it if its mention again
6. 02:16:676 (1,2,3) - I think this would look better if you made something like this to have that sort of 1 and 2 fitting inside of each other because right now it feels like you made these slidershapes "just because" and also because you did it for the following similar patterns ok sure
7. 03:49:343 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think this looks much better and makes more sense with how you set up the triangle pattern right before with the 1/4 sliders might consider this but it sort of messes the pattern as the slider after is a part of it

Alheak wrote:

Hey, just passing by to tell you that while your map didn't get chosen in our queue, I really liked it, so I'm dropping a couple stars on it (and doing a quick mod on it).

I think GW didn't agree on modding it because he probably found the solo overmapped, and GW likes his guitar solos a lot.

02:35:593 (7) - ctrl+g since every other similar patterns have the sliders going in opposite directions - O ya, fixed!
04:49:343 (8,1) - switch NC? - Sure thang.

Great map, good luck!

DTM9 Nowa wrote:

NM from the SM8 Queue

[notice]

General

Remove the duplicate file of the storyboard done

Moph

00:54:343 (8,9,10,11,1,2) - Maybe moving this pattern so it keeps up the nearly straight Sliderhead|slidertail|sliderhead ( 00:53:843 (5,6,7) - for example) patterning up for the 7 ( 00:54:176 (7) - ) aswell. For ex. http://puu.sh/uyzm4/b0b5857e06.jpg sure, moved some stuff around

01:05:176 (1,3) - Maybe switch up the NC for these two? Imo it would be better to be here 01:05:343 (3) - because the pattern, mapper and the section changes plus it's mapped on a cymbal hit oops yeah

01:43:843 (6,1) - Swap NCs here so people understand that the change from 1/2s to 1/1s happen here 01:43:843 (6) - and this 01:43:843 (6,1) - is not 1/2 I think this is fine as the spacing to 6 is 1/2 which is consistent from before however its 1/1 to to 1 much needs the nc more imo

02:17:843 (4,1) - I know that this was placed like so purely intentionally but it's still quite a drastic difference when you compare it to the other similiar beat patterns 02:12:509 (4,1) - 02:23:176 (4,1) - (exceptionally this ->) 02:28:510 (4,1) - so maybe clarifying what you are trying to do with it would be a good idea thats very true, I've been meaning to fix up these parts. I'll probably change the 4th one so it matches the 2nd

02:59:343 (1) - Imo this should be emphasized by spacing muuuuuch more than the following hitcircle 02:59:509 (2) - o nice catch

03:02:676 (1,1,1,1,1) - I don't really know is this kind of super dense NCing necessary here... maybe talk about this with a BN if/when possible unless if you have a crystal clear explonation on the NCing fixed, I think the nc is a bit screwed in this slow part zz

03:40:593 (4,5) - Small spacing error because of the stack fixed

04:54:676 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Prior in the kiai section ( 04:23:342 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ) you had the 5th note NCd there, maybe use similar NCing for the other stream aswell by NCing this 04:55:009 (5) - note sure fixed

05:01:176 (4) - Since the bass theoretically lasts from the start of this slider to all the way to here 05:01:343 - so would making this slider a 1/4 reverse slider to represent the hold sound from here 05:01:259 - to here 05:01:343 - would atleast imo be a good idea fixed

DTM9 Nowa wrote:

Ambient

00:29:343 (1,2,3,4) - Could you justify your choice of sliders here and why is it different when compared to this 00:26:676 (1,2,3,1) - pattern? Imo those two sound pretty much exactly the same so it's kinda weird that you drop the prioritization of the bass so suddenly and full on focus on the piano - thats uh, honestly a really good point lol, for some reason I prioritized guitar over bass wtf, ended up making them the same. I dont even.

01:14:593 (7,1) - Small spacing error when compared to the other objects on the stream - How'd you notice that?? Fixed!

03:14:509 (4,6) - For you i'd recommend to NC a little bit more, maybe copy moph a little bit? For example these two could be NCd as they change the BSD used for the spacing of the notes and here 03:19:509 (3) - for example it would clarify that the 2|3 is not 1/2 as you have used veeery similiar pattern(s) ( 03:14:176 (2,3,4) - ) to represent 1/2 notes and here 03:20:176 (1,2,3,4,5) - the BSD gets completely mixed up. So ya know this kind of little things could be NCd just so the drastic change is begin represented somehow to the player - Another great point, should be better now.

Simply amazing, keep up the good work guys
GL~

Neoskylove wrote:

Q

[collab]
01:08:009 (1,3) - looka hard to read. - Same pattern in happening at 01:05:343 (1,3) - so the player should know that the next pattern should be similar.
02:46:676 (1) - make jump for emphasize, you made jump in 02:46:009 (6,7) - . Doesn't really need more emphasis, also i don't get what you mean by referencing 02:46:009 (6,7) -
03:20:509 (2) - 03:21:176 (5) - NC for better reading. - Okie fixed!

nothing to say,GL

Rad- wrote:

Hello! From my queue,

Seems like you have an additional SB file on your folder, because you probably changed the map's name, so delete ''Tsukasa Yatoki - Heaven's Race (Guitar Style) (moph).osb'' fixed


Moph:
00:10:343 (3) - Move this to x:416 y:308 for easier reading sure
00:48:093 (1,2) - Move these 2 closer to like x:156 y:296 for better reading as well since it identifies as a double more easily hmm I think its quite readable as is
00:50:593 (6,1) - Give these 2 more spacing for a consistent spacing and so it comes closer to circle 2 without ruining playability prefer it as is, the previous one had larger spacing to emphasize the music there
00:53:509 (2) - This one closer as well, or alternatively making slider 00:53:343 (1) - have a direct line to circle 2 moved closer
00:54:176 (7,8) - That's a pretty mean jump imo, i suggest making it closer to the incoming stack, or unstacking the following objects and making them a stream line with low-medium spacing in between them. I think the jump is fair, I tried some other stuff but still came back to this
00:56:843 (8,9) - Switch positions of timing between these 2 sliders and it becomes alot more easy to read since spacing from slider 7 to 8 and turn made it confusing to play pattern is this way because 8 -> 9 needs more emphasis than 7 ->8, readable imo
00:57:343 (1,2,3) - Move triple to x:80 y;332 but stack ;;
00:59:176 (5,6) - Reduce the spacing on this a bit as well moved slightly
01:41:759 - You could have added an object here as the song has a small snare there that would fit best to continue the stream sure
02:28:676 (1) - I mean at first this slider looked like a circle, the overlap is really hard to read like this, my suggestion is to follow the square on the same anti-clockwise pattern and then placing 02:29:343 (1) - somewhere else to avoid this overlap afterwards good point, fixed

Rad- wrote:

Hello! From my queue,

Ambient:
01:05:843 (3) - Place this slider higher for less confusing overlap, still would look good - Okie why not.
01:06:343 (5) - Turn the end of this slider towards the next circle to avoid a weird curve in movement - Ahh know what you mean but it sorta breaks the blanket, plus its pretty readable as is.
01:12:676 (5) - You could move ths closer and a bit parallel to the previous triple so the jump isnt so high - Sure thang.

Sorry for small mod, its a really good collab imo.
Hope it helped!

moph wrote:

soz

moph wrote:

[upstairs spook]

1. feel like 01:06:759 - should be mapped as its a pretty loud, maybe turn 01:06:676 (1) - into a 1/4 slider + a single - ye ye
2. 01:09:343 (1) - feel like rhythm can be improved here, sound here is muuuch weaker than the rest of the stream 01:09:009 (5,6,7,8) - the note it ends on here 01:09:426 - is also stronger than the note it starts on, maybe try using the same rhythm as I did here? 00:47:676 (5,6,1,2) -
   same situation here I guess 01:19:676 (5,6,7,8,1) - - yuh yuh
3. 01:13:343 (1,2) - not 100% this fits very well rhythm wise, 01:13:593 (2) - starts on the weakest note within the bar while this 01:13:676 - one of the stronger notes isn't clickable. I'd recommend changing the second repeat slider to something else. Same applies to here 01:24:259 (2) - - I gotchu
4. 01:15:676 (3,4,5,6,1) - could make this prettier :^) - :^( bettteeerrrrr
5. 01:54:843 (1,2) - move this slightly further away for more emphasis? - yup yup
6. 01:57:843 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - my main problem with this is the fact that there is such a huge jump to 01:58:093 (2) - without much in the music to support it. It also doesn't read as a 1/4 very well or play well considering the direction of the stream. I'd recommend starting the stream on 01:58:009 - and shortening 01:57:843 (1) - to a 1/4 - re-mapped this section to better suit the guitar.
7. 02:00:676 (1) - not too sure on the rhythm here, 02:00:009 (1,2,3,4) - you've been following the guitar mostly here so I think it might be better to start this stream 02:00:926 - here as that matches the guitar. 02:00:676 (1) - shortening this by 1/4 will also mean you get to map this note 02:00:843 - which is pretty strong imo. - yuppp, like above changed it to suit guitar
8. 02:01:176 (6) - to follow the guitar maybe turn 02:01:176 (6,7) - into a 1/4 slider? - tried a triple instead
9. 02:34:176 (5) - feel like this slider could start 1/2 later to match the held guitar sound as well as the strong beat it starts on it. Change 02:34:176 - to just a single? - moved some stuff around
10. 02:46:009 (6,7) - maybe try the same rhythm I did here 02:24:676 (1,2,3) -? It's not 100% musically correct now that I listen to at 25% it but I still think it fits quite well. - ah ha, something i can disagree with. I believe the 1/8's here are too dominating to be changed into anything else, i could go with your rhythm choice but your previous part is more has a more technical side to it with shorter notes being played on guitar, where as mine they're much longer with 1/2 notes being played. soz boz
11. 02:51:843 (4) - fine as is but could change to a 1/4 slider + single, having 02:52:009 - clickable would be nice - yeah why not
12. 03:35:676 (1) - again fine as is but imo would be better somewhere like (428,304) - ooo i like that
13. 04:17:676 (1,2,3,4,5) - hm just for consistency with how the other streams are maybe move it here? https://puu.sh/uESXy.png - yup good idea
14. 04:35:176 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - try this https://puu.sh/uET4T.png this way the kick sliders match up with the guitar - oooo yup
15. 04:39:176 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - thiiiis doesn't really line up with the music. 04:39:176 (1) - isn't really anything here to justify that much of a change, if anything it should start here 04:39:342 (3) -. Additionally 04:39:676 (7) - probably should be empty as there are no new sounds here. try this https://puu.sh/uETjT.png - yepo went with that,

Kalibe wrote:

- 00:09:009 (1,2,1) - hmm, how about emphasis 00:09:176 (2,1) - this making a jump, probably try to move 00:09:343 (1) - somewhere on 372/200 I think the change in direction is enough emphasis as the motion before is all repeated
- 00:46:009 (8,3) - stack! fixed
- 01:33:843 (1,2) - ? | music is still really calm and 4.6x jump feels pretty random lol. pls reduce spacing aaa fixed
- 02:52:009 (5,1) - according to similar rhythms 02:57:343 (1,2) - u should also nc 02:52:009 (5) - and remove it from 02:52:509 (1) - then swap ncs on 02:53:009 (3,1) - imo. o yeah sure
- 03:55:509 (9,1) - transision plays awkward though... maybe try to move 9 slider end more to up or something? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7705635 I think its ok as is, I'll change if brought up again

6th wrote:

Hey!

[Collab]
00:08:009 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This seems to be a huge spike, especially because of the back'n'forth flow, compared to how simple are the previous rhythms/patterns. I advise making the flow more smooth and not using back'n'forth. hmm I think its fine, its a pretty simple repeating motion that's just 1/2s
00:14:343 (4,5) - CTRL+G, so rhythm will be more intuitive and coherent with how you mapped this previously (especially at 00:10:676 (1,2,3,1,2) - ). oh true, fixed
00:19:676 (5,6) - Same, etc. same
00:43:676 (1,2,1) - Consider reducing spacing between them so (1) can have a proper emphasis. I think its ok, rather keep the emphasis more on the slider
00:47:676 (5,6,1,2) - This will be inintuitive to play and isn't necessary since it's the only time this rhythm appears in the whole section. Consider adding a kickslider at 00:48:009 - to make it more fluid to play. will consider, might be slightly tricky to play but imo it fits rhythmically
00:56:843 (8,9,10) - Spacing should be consistent between them if you listen properly to the music. Same issue at 01:18:176 (6,7,8) - . nice catch, fixed
02:11:343 (1,2,3) - Here you give priority to blue tick but you don't do it at 02:14:009 (1,2,3,4) - when it's even louder. fixed
02:17:843 (4,1) - I don't really understand why they are not spaced when 02:12:509 (4,1) - are spaced. And doing it consistently is not really a reason. variety really. Since the music here in pitch goes high -> low -> high -> low I made the highs the same and lows the same. so 02:12:009 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - and 02:22:676 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - follow the same logic, etc
03:05:177 (4,1) - You usually don't increase spacing on downbeat. why not? its transitioning to a different stanza so it fits
03:36:009 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Not really confident on how they flow. its fine imo
04:22:925 (4,1,2) - Does it deserve to be that hard ? Pure antiflow is really difficult to perform while streaming. I personally didn't find that part to be difficult to play, I kinda did the same in the other parts of the stream where the music is like that so I'd rather keep it as is
04:34:176 (6,1,2,1) - Could look cleaner. ok
05:00:676 (1,2,3,4) - This rather deserves consistent spacing. could do, but I kinda like keeping them in pairs, I think it works

Pretty cool map but I honestly feel like moph and Ambient's styles don't fit really well, except in last kiai time... good luck.

6th wrote:

Hey!

[Collab]
00:32:009 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This feels really slow compared to 00:21:343 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -, 00:24:009 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - etc. Same issue here 00:34:676 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - True, but it still follows the music and its not heavily slow down to really affect anything.
00:42:176 (2,3,4) - What about making a 90° angle ? It would fit better with the squared stream. - Fixed i think.
01:07:259 (5,6) - CTRL+H ? Makes more sense with your style. - Fixed!
04:11:676 (3) - Make it straight ? - Fixed!

Pretty cool map but I honestly feel like moph and Ambient's styles don't fit really well, except in last kiai time... good luck.

Sonnyc wrote:

ambient.
01:18:009 (5,6,7,8) - I think this parallel slider usage was a something recognizable in patterns but since it was only used once, it kinda ended up without creating a meaning imo. There's a similar part of the song at 01:20:676 (1,2,3,4,5,6) and uh what do you think about replicating that pattern over here? It's more justifiable using a different pattern since its different sounds being used. i.e a drum roll compared to the pattern you mentioned earlier, so i don't see a point in making it identical.
02:01:343 (1,2,3) - You were having a 1/4 spacing after sliders around here. Suddenly using a 1/2 rhythm after a 1/4 slider with a close spacing that reminds a 1/2 wasn't techincally good. - Replaced it with notes.
04:07:593 - There's a clearly existing sound here. Just simply ignoring this feels quite out of the song. - Ah true, fixed!