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Newbie Game 15: Rise From The Ashes [Game over!]

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abraker

Sakura wrote:

but with the lack of ability to do double ISOs and knowing i need to re-read the entire thing has made me lazy :(
Finally somebody I can share my feelings with. I kinda went "nope" to any more analyzing until the weekend after I posted that failure, which btw took me about 2 hours to compile. Not sure if I will not be lazy then too, but oh well.
Topic Starter
Zexion
Votecount 3.5
beeboy123 [1] - B1rd
Frostings [1] - abraker
abraker [1] - Sakura
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
B1rd [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - Hika,Frostings , beeboy123
With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
Frostings is V/LA is over.
Day 3 ends on March 4th, 01:30 AM UTC.
Sakura
I just realized i screwed up the quote, it should be B1rd's quote, not bee's.
Hika

B1rd wrote:

Can we consider our current situation for a moment? If beeboy wasn't scum then it doesn't make any sense that everyone else is either apathetic or against a beeboy lynch. It would only makes sense that if he weren't scum the actual scum would be trying to push a bandwagon to win.

It's easy to play capt. hindsight, but I did want to lynch bee yesterday when he was a hair's breadth away; I'm not apathetic but rather I'm annoyed that he somehow managed to convince other people with his weak AtE arguments that contain about as little substance as all the rest of his play.
I don't think this applies here because half of us are confused on who to vote off since Jess. I knew Jess would flip town but that's like... the usual lol.
I can literally throw out like a few guesses on who I could assume are scum but it's not easy because it's not like anyone of you guys are using a powerful argument to sway the rest of us to vote a certain person. I mean, you can say you all are but at the end of the day, you don't have a valid reason to vote someone at the moment unless you can pin point certain interactions with each other.

That's the only way town can win right now. You have to see who has the most interactions together. It looks suspicious when you've only mentioned something to each other D1 but haven't tried any of the other two days.

That's how I'm planning to look for scum so sorry dead townies bc I don't know how the hell im going to win lol
Hika

Sakura wrote:

And honestly with the way you're going against bee, I figure it'd be kinda useless, you seem to have closed up to the possibility of being wrong.
I know I quoted Sakura here but @bird, don't u think frosty has been babbling this entire time too? ;p

Mind you I haven't read the last two pages. I'll be getting to that really soon.
Frostings
I'm freeeeeeeeeee
Frostings
Hm, I'm actually having a hard time reading this game (though my reads are usually wrong anyway :))
I only trust Hika because my townread on her is something I think is more objective

I have an idea, but it would involve everybody sharing their reads and then No Lynching
Frostings
even if we lynch scum today, it'll still be Mylo tomorrow so regardless we need to lynch both scums consecutively
the only difference in No Lynching today is that we need 100% of town to agree on the correct lynch tomorrow vs 2 scum alive
Hika
I honestly think one more flip would do us good here...
That's just me though. I dont want to lynch either. just because i am extremely not confident with my reads at all.
beeboy123
aand you keep going on bout how tired you are of this game and how you've lost all motivation. You also threatened to intentionally make town lose, how can I overlook that?
But I didn't even do that o3o.
I haven't addressed a lot of your arguments because frankly the reasons I have scumread you are due to critical flaws in your gameplay and that's not something you can just talk your way out of like you did with Sakura. Your conversation with Sakura was just all about meta from other games and has little substance from this game. I would address things you said if I thought it would be productive, but it seems to me just arguing about interpretation that has little use except clogging up the thread and making it more confusing for everyone else to read.
I mean you make points I explain how they are wrong and you never bother to reconsider your read knowing that which isn't really town.
Like I am not saying after I say something you say is completely false you should TR me but the fact you aren't even bothering is really iffy.


I'm pretty sure Hika townread you in this thread recently...
Hika wanted to vote me and Frosty IIRC
beeboy123
Sakura-sama why don't you think b1rd is scum D:
beeboy123
Oops almost deleted that post...
Also I don't want to no lynch atm scum have too much info to work with.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura-sama why don't you think b1rd is scum D:

Sakura wrote:

As per my pairings post, i had abraker as 100% scum while B1rd as 50% scum, that may change given these new possibilities.
beeboy123
What about his posts themselves how do you feel about those? Not just partner spec
Sakura
I feel like he's stuck on a tunnel and that's all i feel.
Hika
bboy, I wanted to vote you but I changed my mind and deemed you and Sakura town.
Fuck me if I'm wrong but I want a frosty lynch maybe.
Topic Starter
Zexion
To prod or not to prod everyone... that is the question.

Votecount 3.6
beeboy123 [1] - B1rd
Frostings [1] - abraker
abraker [1] - Sakura
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
B1rd [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - Hika,Frostings , beeboy123
With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
abraker, Frostings and B1rd have been prodded.
Day 3 ends on March 4th, 01:30 AM UTC.
B1rd
I'm just burnt out from arguing with people... in this thread and others.
Frostings
ah coming on later today
Topic Starter
Zexion
This is a friendly reminder that deadline is in about 8 hours.
abraker
Hello, this is a response to a prod.

Anyway, I can't make out anything until at least one mafia is lynched. Frostings seems the safest choice imo, and I am ready to pit the rope around my neck if he is not mafia just so that this headache can end.
B1rd
A mislynch means game over for town.
Hika
Ya but two of u scummy fucks aren't deserving of your win anyways so :u
abraker

Hika wrote:

Ya but two of u scummy fucks aren't deserving of your win anyways so :u
Who are you calling a scummy fuck, scummy fuck?
Hika
Town me is.
abraker

Hika wrote:

Town me is.
Everyone is guilty untill proven innocent
Hika
ok let's watch you flip then
abraker

Hika wrote:

ok let's watch you flip then
Oh don't be so modest. You can go first.
beeboy123
Abraker propose a scum team 4 me pls.
Hika
Frosty abraker
abraker
Frosty + Sakura
Frosty + BBoy
Frosty + Hika
Frosty + B1rd

From most likely to most unlikely imo
beeboy123
Vote: Abraker
abraker

beeboy123 wrote:

Vote: Abraker
You got one shot at this as B1rd said, how sure are you?
abraker
Also a reminder that it will be a very stupid move for scum to vote other scum into a guaranteed lynch at this stage. If a townie is lynched, it's gameover, if not, it's making things harder for scum. Therefore, if I am scum then the other scum must be very stupid to vote for me. Also therefore, there ends up being 2 candidates to choose from as potential scum if I come down to 3 votes and I am scum. If I am townie, then at least one scum will vote for me, if not both, be it the last one or already voting.
abraker
Same can go for anyone else, actually. But will scum attempt to risk voting scum to a guaranteed lynch now that I have said that?
Hika
Vote: abraker

bboy town
Hika
I sheep my townread
B1rd
hmmm...

vote: abraker
abraker
Now I know for a fact that at least one townie is voting for me. I also know for a fact that at least one mafia is voting for me. Proof: Why would they not vote for a townie and win?

Out Sakura, Hika, and Beeboy, at least one is townie and one is mafia.
Now if I am mafia, then either Bird is mafia or Frostings is mafia.
abraker
gameover mafia wins
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