TrySail & TRUE - High Free Spirits vs. DREAM SOLISTER [Osu|T · forum

Kin

2,618 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2017-02-16T22:13:35+00:00

cc m4m is here

[Kalitarks]

00:10:518 (1,2,3) - 00:11:002 (4,5) - the spacing are a bit different, but the jump seems almost simular. I'd suggest to make it a bit more different the make difference between the 1st pattern jump for the strong drum and the next one. maybe, make this jump a lil higher 00:10:518 (1,2,3) - or reduce this one ? 00:11:002 (4,5) -
as example, I find this one ok 00:13:099 (1,2,3,4,5) - since the strong drum have a clear higher DS (and the triangles are bit more different)
00:19:550 (1) - I kinda feel weird this one being a slider since those 2 are circles : 00:18:260 (1,2,1,2) - . this slider might be following the vocal, but still feel weird to me since you did 2 circles on previous simular musical pattern.

[Pentarks]

00:05:357 (1,2,1,2) - I feel kinda bad for those one being only sliders while those are circles : 00:07:937 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -

[Linatarks]
Sotarks t'as obligé à retirer tes overlaps ?

00:09:389 (1) - t'avais clairement pas la flemme pour faire ça avec 10 points au lieu de 4~5 :c
01:13:478 (6,7,1) - jsp si c'est juste moi, avec cet angle d'environs 60~80°, je trouve que ça rend weird à play.
00:56:053 (1) - j'ai eu un peu du mal avec cette note, j'm'attendais à un back & forth avec le flow qu'il y a, et le vocal.
01:09:526 (4,1) - Le flow passe bien, mais avec le spacing étant plus grand sur les patterns d'avant, rend cette note moins emphasize. Alors que le vocal/drum est assez strong içi.
et puis celui la est bien emphasized : 01:10:784 (5,1) -

[Harubbes]

00:19:550 (1,2,3,4) - Even tho you're following the vocal with 4. I feel like 4 should be different from 1,2,3 since 4 doesn't have a strong drum. So, I think, it'd be better to make a different spacing for 4.
00:02:695 - 00:08:341 - 00:08:825 - 00:09:308 - 01:35:828 - 01:50:379 - I guess you can remove this greenline.

[Gardeft]

00:57:850 (2) - just me, but I'd suggest to move a bit more to the top or bot, to make it more visible.

[Davitarks]
delete greenline : 00:05:276 - 00:08:341 - 00:08:825 - 00:09:308 -

00:06:808 (4,5) - I can understand those one being different from those 00:05:357 (1,2,3) - since the pitch are different. But those circles 00:08:905 (3,4) - have the same melody as those one : 00:07:937 (1,2) -
01:22:625 (5) - maybe NC for the 1/3 part ?

[Akirinn]
delete greenline : 00:02:695 - 00:05:276 - 00:10:437 - 00:51:383 - 00:51:922 - 00:52:102 - 01:22:744 - 01:22:864 - 01:23:104 - 01:23:223 - 01:23:463 - 01:23:583 - 01:23:822 - 01:23:942 - 01:35:828 - 01:35:918 - 01:50:379 - 01:50:469 -
missing hitsound, don't forget to use hitsound copier :c

except this, nothing much.

[Ironely]
delete greenline : 00:02:695 - 00:05:276 - 00:07:292 - 00:08:341 - 00:08:825 - 00:08:421 - 00:09:308 - 00:51:922 - 01:23:104 - 01:22:864 - 01:23:583 - 01:23:822 - 01:50:379 - 01:52:265 -

nozhomo

j'vous aime bande de pd <3

nextplay

976 posts

Joined December 2015

nextplay 2017-02-16T22:40:52+00:00

What am I doing with my Life?

[Akirinn]

Corinn
~~^ git gud xd~~

01:09:706 (1,2,3) - Blanket
01:31:966 (4,1) - ^
01:48:313 (3,4) - ^ Yellow Thing

k

Ironely

[Xinely]

00:22:131 (3,1) - Blanket
00:26:002 (1,2) - ^
00:27:292 (3) - Move this a bit up? This is TOO close to touch 00:26:002 (1) -
00:44:066 (1,2) - Blanket

[Irohas]

01:18:329 (1,2) - Blanket
01:37:715 (5,1) - Blanket (Yellow Thing)
01:50:649 Forgot to add Spinner?

[left]

01:40:948 (4,1) - Blanket

Linatarks

[Linada]

01:25:499 (1,3) - Blanket Yellow Thing
01:25:499 (1,2) - Blanket
01:29:810 (1,2) - ^
01:40:948 (4,1) - ^

GL

Sotarks

3,493 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Sotarks 2017-02-19T16:34:39+00:00

fixed mod guys, thx!!
all poeple i collabed with i update dand fixed, you can fix now thx.. after all fix, i'll double check all diff, and call for bns.
thx!!

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2017-02-19T16:48:15+00:00

00:53:718 (5) - NC is missing

00:59:646 (5,6) - this break feels a bit weird imo, what about https://puu.sh/tVG90/5f54c0fd0e.png ? i think 1/1 should fit better than this break between both there's no real issue with this break. a long slider wouldnt emphasize 01:00:005 (2) - very well

you should rework your NC, its seems a bit inconsistent in the kiai part

01:20:290 (3) - NC cause timing change?

01:22:625 (5) - maybe NC for the 1/3 part ?

Thanks

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Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-02-20T09:26:48+00:00

Kalitarks
Sotarks:
00:01:486 (1) - Try and make the curve more polished at the end of this slider, just neatpicky
00:04:066 (1) - Make perfect circle at the end ?
00:10:518 (1) - I know you don't always do blankets, but try for this one LOL
00:18:744 (4,4) - There's no sound here so this feels kinda overmapped xd
00:22:131 (1) - NC

Kalibe:
00:56:413 (5,1) - The angle transition here is a bit uncomfortable if you rotate it -30 degrees it would look nicer imo,

Pentarks
Pentori :
00:05:357 (1,2,1,2) - This could've been better if it was circles instead for better emphasis on the rythmn
00:44:712 (3) - NC?

Sotarks:
01:45:439 (5) - This can be spaced more probably

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Linatarks
Linada :
00:50:357 (2) - Silence that end ?
00:55:245 (5) - There's like no sound here so imo there is no need to place the 1/4 here.
00:58:838 (3) - ^
01:22:625 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Nice

Harrubes
Haruto:
00:04:066 (1,2) - Stacks
00:06:808 (3) - Since you are NC'ing every two beats, you should NC here too.
00:09:389 (1) - I would recommend ending the slider on the white tick instead because people are going to play this thinking theres a 1/2 gap seeing how its a slow slider, and its a really quiet section. So the jump isn't anticipated.
00:24:389 (5) - Try stacking this with 00:23:744 (2) - 's head for a flow that isn't as sharp?
00:35:679 (3,4) - How about a 1/2 slider instead to follow the guitar in the background?
00:46:163 (5) - I don't think you should stack here mainly cuz you don't use stacks a lot in this section. As well, the sound here is very similar to 00:45:841 (3) - but you don't stack there. You're also going into a more intense section so the extra movement helps with giving players momentum.
00:46:970 (2,1) - This jump is quite large compared to your other jumps in this section. Maybe move it up a bit more or something?

Hobbes2:
01:00:724 (5,1) - Careful with the 1/4 spacing here, consider reducing it, also the transistion to it feels unconfortable
01:26:936 (1,2) - Stuff like that can be confusing since u use same spacing for your 1/4s
01:30:349 (2) - ^
01:44:541 (3,5,8) - NC for perfect pp pattern comboing ?

Gardeft
Garden:
00:05:841 (3,5) - NC like you did 00:06:808 (1) - here ? for consistency
00:08:421 (3,5) - ^
00:45:034 (1,2) - Swap NC

Ironely
Nely:
01:19:946 (3) - Unsnapped

Iroha:
01:10:963 (3,4) - Spacing here can be more consistent.
01:34:122 (6,7,1) - Here too.

[]

When you're ready!

Last edited by Monstrata 2017-02-20T09:44:55+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Sotarks

3,493 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Sotarks 2017-02-20T09:30:13+00:00

fixed all from ▲ man!
thx dude!

@GDERS REPLY PLS!

be sure to check all mods pls!

Linada

994 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-02-20T09:47:55+00:00

Kin wrote:
[Linatarks]
Sotarks t'as obligé à retirer tes overlaps ?

01:13:478 (6,7,1) - jsp si c'est juste moi, avec cet angle d'environs 60~80°, je trouve que ça rend weird à play. c'est fait expres :3
00:56:053 (1) - j'ai eu un peu du mal avec cette note, j'm'attendais à un back & forth avec le flow qu'il y a, et le vocal. J'ai retiré le 1/4 du coup le pattern est un peu different, ça devrai etre plus "normal"
01:09:526 (4,1) - Le flow passe bien, mais avec le spacing étant plus grand sur les patterns d'avant, rend cette note moins emphasize. Alors que le vocal/drum est assez strong içi.
et puis celui la est bien emphasized : 01:10:784 (5,1) - j'ai reduit le spacing du cercle juste avant, mais je sais pas si ça aide vraiment a emphasize vu que le spacing 3 - 4 - 1 reste similaire D:

nextplay wrote:
Linatarks

[Linada]

01:25:499 (1,3) - Blanket Yellow Thing
01:25:499 (1,2) - Blanket
01:29:810 (1,2) - ^
01:40:948 (4,1) - ^
fixed
GL

@monstrata fixed all

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Garden

Nomination Assessment Team

1,343 posts

Joined June 2013

Garden 2017-02-20T10:03:16+00:00

Irohas wrote:
gardeft

garden
00:30:357 (5,6) - spacing seems a bit off imo, there's a loud clap on (6) shrinking spacing here as a transition to next section in music
cool thanks!

Monstrata wrote:
Gardeft
Garden:
00:05:841 (3,5) - NC like you did 00:06:808 (1) - here ? for consistency already did in previous mods actually xD
00:08:421 (3,5) - ^
00:45:034 (1,2) - Swap NC nc patterns here are intended to follow vocal, and this one is consistent with 00:42:454 (1,2) -

Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2017-02-20T10:05:32+00:00

DavidEd wrote:
Pentarks' Extra

Pentori
00:04:066 (1) - You spaced it out on the same sound at 00:01:486 (1,2) - so you could just space that note out
a bit further to keep things consistent. just following the pattern here

00:20:760 (2) - There note is probably overmapped. I mean, it's a good lead-in into the next part.
But there is no beat here, so idk actually. emphasis?

00:25:841 (5,6,1) - Weak spacing for such a loud vocal. You can use the same spacing you used for the
same sound at 00:23:260 (5,6,1) - the lower spacing makes it stand out

00:34:873 (1,2) - Blanket is off fix

Realazy wrote:
[Pantarks]
00:40:195 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - these feel way too quiet, raise the hitsound volume for these jumps i dont think it has to b loud.. the drums arent even that strong
00:44:712 (3) - you could use bigger spacing on this one, it's pretty intense antijump puts emphasis on 00:44:873 (4)

iYiyo wrote:

[pentarks]
high
00:18:260 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - since you were doing those nice star patterns before, I expected something more symmetric for those aswell. Why not trying some hexagon shape? suggestion: https://puu.sh/tSA1p/077e5438bc.png then stack 00:18:583 (3,1) - those if you agree with the pic i dont want equal spacing for these jumps, else i lose emphasis
00:48:341 - 00:48:825 - missed notes? arent very audible, would rather keep jumps toward 00:48:421 (1,1)

NeBuSC2 wrote:
Pentarks' Extra:
00:40:679 (1,2,3) - I would keep a normal triangle here like 00:40:195 (1,2,3) - just move 00:41:002 (3) - near 00:41:163 (1) - slider end. current one works too

Kin wrote:
[Pentarks]
00:05:357 (1,2,1,2) - I feel kinda bad for those one being only sliders while those are circles : 00:07:937 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - variety, just wanted to do sth different

Monstrata wrote:
Pentarks
Pentori :
00:05:357 (1,2,1,2) - This could've been better if it was circles instead for better emphasis on the rythmn would rather keep this for variety
00:44:712 (3) - NC? dont think it needs one 00:41:486 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is one combo

aa

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@mirash kick slider is too heavy for my difficulty..
else all fixed

thx for mod!

gardeft

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Irohas

1,353 posts

Joined May 2014

Irohas 2017-02-20T11:27:34+00:00

Plaudible wrote:
Ironely's Easy[/size]

Irohas
01:34:122 (6,7) - Spacing here is about 0.1x too much, re-snap pls :v
01:49:391 (4) - Would you consider this rhythm instead perhaps? Ending it on the sliderend feels like it kills the emphasis. http://puu.sh/tRyj3/98c19758d7.jpg it's fine if i keep, both works

Haruto wrote:
Hihi~
Ironely's Easy
Irohas
01:03:958 (1) - Maybe its possible to transform this slider into a 2 circle instead? Its for the beats on 01:03:958 - and 01:04:317 - they are pretty strong beat and i know, its not really an issue for lower diff but it'd be best if they were mapped with 2 circles instead. 00:57:490 (3,4) - you did something similiar here so why not applying it on 01:03:958 - too? xd i understand, but it's mainly for consistency with 00:52:461 (1) -
01:19:946 (3) - Seems like my Modding Assistant tells me that the slider end is unsnapped. Maybe a slight fix would be transforming this slider into a 2 circle instead.
01:32:685 (1) - NC? new lyric/vocal here
01:35:200 (4,1) - CTRL+G the rhythm here would be much better for the strong beat here 01:35:918 - i don't really want to skip the downbeat
01:44:182 (3) - I think its better if you keep this being a 1/1 slider instead a 1/2 slider with reverse, though you arent following the vocal here anyway, you are more following the drums i suppose. Change this slider to a 1/1 repeat slider then add a circle here 01:45:259 - works nice~
01:50:649 - Not putting any spinner here? rip

Hoping for ranked11!!

iYiyo wrote:
m4m

[ironely]
maybe clean all unused green lines?

dream
01:29:810 - I think it'd be better if you make this clickable with a 1/1 slider i think vocals deserve to be prioritized
01:35:559 (1) - similar as before? why not try this with a 1/1 slider? feels weird 01:35:918 - this being the slider tail tbh. there's loud finish at 01:35:918 -
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well i think i modded a bit more in drain time xd good set tho

GL!

Monstrata wrote:
Ironely
Iroha:
01:10:963 (3,4) - Spacing here can be more consistent.
01:34:122 (6,7,1) - Here too. fixed in the previous mod

[]

When you're ready!

thanks!

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2017-02-20T13:49:21+00:00

Haruto wrote:
Hihi~

General
Actually, You dont have to put my "Haruto-" on the tags, it'll leads you to "Haruto" anyway in the beatmap listing because the page doesnt read or recognize such symbol like "-"
Maybe add "Amamiya Sora Natsukawa Shiina" to the tags because they are part of the TrySail's vocalist

Ironely's Easy
Xinely
00:11:808 (3,4) - Current Rhythm ini keknya ga cocok deh kak, kalo aku sih suggestnya kedua rhythm di CTRL+G aja jadi 00:11:808 (3) - ini berada di downbeat 00:13:098 - yang menurut aku lebih cocok kalo di buat clickable instead being a lone sliderend lol + kalo slidernya mulai duluan kan lebih fit ke vokal jadi ke next object lebih konsisten gitu
00:16:970 (3) - Whistle on the reverse?
00:24:712 (3) - Tbh ini lebih enak kalo dijadikan 1/2 slider+reverse lho kak :^( jadi dia ngikutin vokal juga supaya lebih konsisten gitu lha pokoknya sama sebelum dan sesudah bagian ini. Oiya, slider reversenya disini mulainya 00:25:195 - jadi kalo kaka setuju, ini 00:25:357 (4) - diremove lol, Though, its to simplify the rhythm on easy so the SR will be decreased too~. ga deh soalnya 00:25:357 - lebih kuat daripada vocal
00:27:292 (3,4) - CTRL+G Rhythmnya kak? 00:28:260 - disini beatnya lumayan strong lho kak, jadi menurut aku lebih enak dibuat clikable ketimbang dibiarin jadi sliderend xd gw sih pake slider repeat kalo dalam 1 vocal jadi vocalnya aneh kalo di bedain pake objek lain imo
00:33:099 (3) - Move to 306|238 for a better look and neatness~
00:36:970 (2) - Nazi, mungkin curve di slidernya bisa lebih rapi lagi.
00:41:486 (1) - Finish on the head?
Hoping for ranked11!!

no reply means fixed thanks haru

@NeBuSC2 : first part is quite subjective personally i dont have problem to see shape there. second one is 00:41:163 - has different drum and a different vocal so i prefer to map with different object

iYiyo wrote:
m4m

[ironely]
maybe clean all unused green lines? that doesnt matter, also copy paste hitsound from the mapper's hitsound lul

high
[*]00:11:808 (3,4,1) - rhythm here could be improved imo :d first of all starting 00:11:808 - here with the 00:12:131 (4) - slider reverse fits better since you're making 00:13:099 - this unclickable. Then you can move 00:13:421 (1) - this second slider so it starts 00:13:099 - and finally the circle place it here 00:14:066 - .Sorry if I didn't explain myself good xd https://puu.sh/tSU3o/6e850e2574.png
[*]00:25:357 - hitsound?
[*]00:26:002 - starting with slider is way more intuitive for a downbeat in easys imo. try to start here with one! this one is good enough imo
[*]00:33:744 - 00:35:679 - idk why you don't make these slider just like 00:31:163 (1,3) - it feels weird, like they have different rhythm but actually in the music they're the same D: because imo easy diffs need some break so make a 2/1 gap there

Have to say that rhythm choice here might be a bit questionable sometimes D: You can easily improve it with a second look at music though

GL!

also on monstrata's mod, its irohas's part not mine xD

thanks all~

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Haruto

1,815 posts

Joined December 2013

Haruto 2017-02-21T10:12:39+00:00

@Modders : Fixed some stuff on your points, sorry that i cant reply them one by one :c
@Monstra : I Fixed everything, thanks man and yea. Going to note the stuff you have told about the stacks for my future mapping!

@Sotarks : Fixes are given to Hobbes for now so he can fix as well~.

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,249 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-02-21T10:21:56+00:00

Hobbes2:
01:00:724 (5,1) - Careful with the 1/4 spacing here, consider reducing it, also the transistion to it feels unconfortable fix
01:26:936 (1,2) - Stuff like that can be confusing since u use same spacing for your 1/4s
01:30:349 (2) - ^ I'll change these if I have to but I think they're fine, the sliders are very obviously full 1/1 sliders and I don't think the player would expect a 1/4 gap after them
01:44:541 (3,5,8) - NC for perfect pp pattern comboing ? sure i guess

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Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-02-21T10:35:45+00:00

Davitark's Hard

00:50:841 -
00:52:461 - Red and green lines aren't consistent^

That's all

Sotarks

3,493 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Sotarks 2017-02-21T10:40:34+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Davitark's Hard

00:50:841 -
00:52:461 - Red and green lines aren't consistent^

That's all

uuh wat happened with drum hs david x) removed to put SC22 again x)

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-02-21T10:41:29+00:00

Bubbled! Good luck~

Sotarks

3,493 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Sotarks 2017-02-21T10:43:34+00:00

Thx mr triangel

Left

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Joined October 2014

Left 2017-02-21T11:52:58+00:00

Wut

Kin

2,618 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2017-02-21T13:13:04+00:00

Left wrote:
Wut

were you left behind ?

please, kill me

Ashton

1,955 posts

Joined February 2016

Ashton 2017-02-28T01:09:39+00:00

oh nice

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2017-02-28T09:16:39+00:00

CanadianBaka wrote:
oh nice

_handholding

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Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-03-11T02:25:07+00:00

Sotarks

3,493 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Sotarks 2017-03-11T12:05:56+00:00

How this is a meme, it's just a machup of 2 good songs !

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-03-11T13:23:34+00:00

The cut sucks; you know it, I know, everyone else including the GDers know it. Oh and songs aren't even similar or related, the only thing they have in common is that they both have popular beatmaps made out of them

Stjpa

886 posts

Joined July 2013

Stjpa 2017-03-11T13:25:40+00:00

Before this gets into qualified it's time for a discussion I guess

The cut is really horrible and completely counter-intuitive, way too surprising for someone who doesn't know both songs and even then the transition to the second song is somewhat random and surprising. If you compare it with monstrata's mashup you might notice that the transition there is a lot smoother and even makes a bit sense

Other than that you have two instruments that don't fit the style of the background and the way they are photoshopped is quite bad as well. The horn (or whatever that instrument is called) is just flying around without anyone holding it, the flute hasn't been photoshopped correctly as well

Haven't looked at the diffs myself, but honestly this is enough to make me veto the map as long as you don't have good reasonings for what you did here

Jukkii

596 posts

Joined October 2015

Jukkii 2017-03-11T13:48:58+00:00

hihi wanted to say something about the top diff i noticed when i tried it out

00:11:002 (4) - is spaced out like the other notes around it even though the sound it is on is way way weaker. consider lowering the spacing
also nearly all the sliders in this part end on stronger beats than they start which creates a weird rhythm imo, but youre doing it consistently so it doesnt affect playability as much, but i just wanted to mention it
00:13:583 (4) - this is also spaced out like the other notes before it even though the sound is very faint and weak
00:17:454 (2) - why are you ignoring a beat here? the slider here is nearly identical to the one before it even though the rhythm is different due to the beat on the white tick
00:18:744 (4,4) - this thing again, the sounds are very weak, you could make sliders from the 3s and make these sounds be on sliderends, it would fit more imo
00:23:260 (6) - a very weak sound
00:25:357 (5) - also same thing again, i honestly couldnt hear these at all when i played this map, and i thought it was genuinely just overmapped, because the sound was just so faint and the spacing so high
00:26:647 (3,4) - these two sliders are basically identical even though the rhythms are clearly different, 3 has a strong beat on the sliderend, while 4 doesnt
00:30:034 (2,3,1) - this triple is placed weirdly and was rather odd to play when i played it
00:41:486 - about the jump section here, the spacing feels quite random, especially in the first few jumps, and it feels weird to play that patter at 00:43:421 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - for whatever reason
now about the exact point where the cut happens, its kind of unexpected if youre not familiar with both songs. also i have no idea why you did this cut, like i understand liking songs but mashing these two songs together doesnt really serve any purpose imo
00:57:131 (2) - ugly ass slider
other than that in the dream solister part i cant really see any flaws other than the spacing is a little low compared to the high free spirits part, i get the song is way more chill and slow but it just feels kind of, anticlimatic? and maybe thats why this mashup isnt that good, the songs dont really correlate with one another.

Sotarks

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Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Sotarks 2017-03-11T15:03:47+00:00

Kisses wrote:
The cut sucks; you know it, I know, everyone else including the GDers know it. Oh and songs aren't even similar or related, the only thing they have in common is that they both have popular beatmaps made out of them

How's Ai No Scenario and MIIRO are related ? The BPM is about the same as my machup. So yea I don't think that's a valid reason. Also for the mp3, i'll see what I can do.

Stjpa wrote:
Before this gets into qualified it's time for a discussion I guess

The cut is really horrible and completely counter-intuitive, way too surprising for someone who doesn't know both songs and even then the transition to the second song is somewhat random and surprising. If you compare it with monstrata's mashup you might notice that the transition there is a lot smoother and even makes a bit sense

Other than that you have two instruments that don't fit the style of the background and the way they are photoshopped is quite bad as well. The horn (or whatever that instrument is called) is just flying around without anyone holding it, the flute hasn't been photoshopped correctly as well

Haven't looked at the diffs myself, but honestly this is enough to make me veto the map as long as you don't have good reasonings for what you did here

Okay gotcha! I used Armin's mp3 he provided on the first page, which I admet better and it was my bad and I'm sorry for that.
I also replaced the BG to a more related one

BG

If poeple here can do better photoshop montage than this, feel free to provide me a new BG! I'll credit you in the description.

-Jukke- wrote:
hihi wanted to say something about the top diff i noticed when i tried it out

00:11:002 (4) - is spaced out like the other notes around it even though the sound it is on is way way weaker. consider lowering the spacing
also nearly all the sliders in this part end on stronger beats than they start which creates a weird rhythm imo, but youre doing it consistently so it doesnt affect playability as much, but i just wanted to mention it i do this everywhere because of the voice section you have at this moment and it fits.
00:13:583 (4) - this is also spaced out like the other notes before it even though the sound is very faint and weak for the exactly same reason mentionned above
00:17:454 (2) - why are you ignoring a beat here? the slider here is nearly identical to the one before it even though the rhythm is different due to the beat on the white tick i don't always want to be consistent following 1/2 beats, and i felt like the vocals needs more intensity here so 2 1/1 slider fits imo here.
00:18:744 (4,4) - this thing again, the sounds are very weak, you could make sliders from the 3s and make these sounds be on sliderends, it would fit more imo i know it's weak, but as you can see the spacing is small so there's no problem for that.
00:23:260 (6) - a very weak sound how vocals are weak, you're basing yourself only on beats not on vocals
00:25:357 (5) - also same thing again, i honestly couldnt hear these at all when i played this map, and i thought it was genuinely just overmapped, because the sound was just so faint and the spacing so high it's a constant 1/2 vocals build up by a jump pattern section who's it's overmaped, can't you here the voice going higher and higher (crescendo) ?
00:26:647 (3,4) - these two sliders are basically identical even though the rhythms are clearly different, 3 has a strong beat on the sliderend, while 4 doesnt voice are exactly the same but with a graduation in the volume due to the spacing emphasis
00:30:034 (2,3,1) - this triple is placed weirdly and was rather odd to play when i played it how come? it's flowing perfectly with the song and previous pattern..
00:41:486 - about the jump section here, the spacing feels quite random, especially in the first few jumps, and it feels weird to play that patter at 00:43:421 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - for whatever reason as you can see i'm increasing the spacing for the vocals since it goes crescendo aswell, and the song has constant 1/2 beats at this section, how come this is overmapper, and yeah, i really wanted to make this section intense to refleat the song intensity..
now about the exact point where the cut happens, its kind of unexpected if youre not familiar with both songs. also i have no idea why you did this cut, like i understand liking songs but mashing these two songs together doesnt really serve any purpose imo i changed the cut, so no problem now it fits perfectly, thx mr armin!
00:57:131 (2) - ugly ass slider i think it's sweet!
other than that in the dream solister part i cant really see any flaws other than the spacing is a little low compared to the high free spirits part, i get the song is way more chill and slow but it just feels kind of, anticlimatic? and maybe thats why this mashup isnt that good, the songs dont really correlate with one another. you can't have same spacing and flow than high free spirits since 1) the song is calm, 2) the song has less bpm, 3) and it's a collab so it's not the same consistance as previous mapping! check monstrata's machup it's exactly the same case.

thx for modding
[]
Too all GDers, ReDL the set with the new BG/MP3 and i fixed BG/~~timing~~(ok my timing fix is bad my ears are bad!!! if someone can give me gud offset xD) for you guys, just double check your mapping in song transition!

Changelogs

03/11/17 new mp3 : now the transition is snapped on the 1/2 beat of high free spirits for smoother gameplay! thx armin
03/11/17 new BG made in relation with the machup between the 2 songs, no more meme montage

Akitoshi

2,685 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-03-11T17:33:17+00:00

fixed spinner with snapped one

a

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nice lol

~~now can get QF?~~

slight change in that issued point, cared my distance logic

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#Reply to Sinnoh
i dont want to

Last edited by Left 2017-03-12T06:06:43+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,950 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-03-12T06:01:03+00:00

Should mention that whether or not kiai should be used isn't really addressed. Miiro vs Ai no Scenario does, so no reason not to here.

hikiko-

236 posts

Joined May 2015

hikiko- 2017-03-14T22:02:06+00:00

hello! did a quick irc with chromoxx for his taiko diffs

mod

2017-03-14 17:27 hikikochan: 00:07:332 - would you be opposed to turning this into a ddkdkkd bc the drum riff continues through that break between the triplets
2017-03-14 17:27 hikikochan: or at least making the second triplet kkd
2017-03-14 17:29 Chromoxx: sure i guess
2017-03-14 17:29 Chromoxx: drum is a bit higher
2017-03-14 17:31 hikikochan: 00:15:397 (24) - make this k?
2017-03-14 17:32 Chromoxx: would flow weirdly
2017-03-14 17:32 Chromoxx: and lose emphasis on the KK
2017-03-14 17:33 hikikochan: 00:15:235 (23,24) - 00:17:816 (35,36) - i was going to say that having that be d k would contrast with the latter being d d and bring out the fact that the first has overlaid vocals while the second doesn't
2017-03-14 17:33 hikikochan: but sure
2017-03-14 17:34 Chromoxx: brb toilet
2017-03-14 17:34 hikikochan: kk
2017-03-14 17:37 Chromoxx: back
2017-03-14 17:37 hikikochan: rest looks ok
2017-03-14 17:38 hikikochan: there's some patterns that are repeated a bit frequently within a short period of time but that's not too much of a problem
2017-03-14 17:38 hikikochan: o was this the 5min muzu gd
2017-03-14 17:38 hikikochan: lol
2017-03-14 17:39 Chromoxx: no
2017-03-14 17:39 Chromoxx: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1228325 BaconAkin - Yeah Boy - Shooting Stars]
2017-03-14 17:39 Chromoxx: this was the 5min muzu GD -.-
2017-03-14 17:40 hikikochan: the timing feels rly weird in the dream solister part but i'd have to tell sotarks that
2017-03-14 17:40 hikikochan: at least in the kiai
2017-03-14 17:40 Chromoxx: it's pretty normal tbh
2017-03-14 17:40 hikikochan: the timing point afterwards fixes it
2017-03-14 17:41 Chromoxx: idk... it seems normal to me
2017-03-14 17:42 hikikochan: during the kiai the metronome hits noticeably earlier than the drum beats
2017-03-14 17:42 Chromoxx: listening at 50% and it's ok
2017-03-14 17:43 hikikochan: i listened at 25% lol
2017-03-14 17:43 hikikochan: for some reason
2017-03-14 17:43 hikikochan: it's fine in the oni
2017-03-14 17:43 hikikochan: but not in the muzu
2017-03-14 17:43 hikikochan: hold up
2017-03-14 17:43 Chromoxx: update the map
2017-03-14 17:43 Chromoxx: sotarks made it normal again
2017-03-14 17:44 hikikochan: oh ok
2017-03-14 17:44 hikikochan: did he put in the version of the maps you sent me
2017-03-14 17:45 Chromoxx: yes
2017-03-14 17:45 hikikochan: ok
2017-03-14 17:46 hikikochan: do you plan on making the finishers consistent in the kiai between your muzu and oni
2017-03-14 17:46 Chromoxx: not really
2017-03-14 17:46 Chromoxx: since the muzu is less dense more finishers would feel overdone
2017-03-14 17:47 hikikochan: it feels a bit empty to me without the finishers
2017-03-14 17:47 hikikochan: but that's just my take
2017-03-14 17:47 Chromoxx: well which ones would you suggest?
2017-03-14 17:47 hikikochan: 01:07:639 (225) - this one for sure
2017-03-14 17:48 Chromoxx: sure
2017-03-14 17:50 Chromoxx: i removed some others to be consistent as a whole in the part though
2017-03-14 17:50 hikikochan: hm putting finishers everywhere you have them in the oni is actually p decent
2017-03-14 17:51 Chromoxx: feels weird with the shorter patterns tbh
2017-03-14 17:52 hikikochan: hm valid i guess
2017-03-14 17:53 hikikochan: ok so in the ending
2017-03-14 17:54 hikikochan: you have three or so 2/1 breaks in the first half
2017-03-14 17:54 hikikochan: but none in the second
2017-03-14 17:54 hikikochan: is that intentional to buildup to the ending?
2017-03-14 17:54 Chromoxx: yes
2017-03-14 17:54 hikikochan: ok just checking
2017-03-14 17:55 Chromoxx: if you look at the oni you'll see the patterns get longer in the ending too
2017-03-14 17:55 hikikochan: kk
2017-03-14 17:55 hikikochan: 01:49:121 - this could be a kkk
2017-03-14 17:55 hikikochan: since you have a 5tuplet in the oni
2017-03-14 17:57 Chromoxx: sure
2017-03-14 17:57 hikikochan: ok that's all i rly have to say
2017-03-14 17:57 Chromoxx: ayy, post the irc log in thread then thx :D

Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Chromoxx 2017-03-14T22:04:11+00:00

updated diffs

Muzukashii

osu file format v14

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CircleSize:3.8
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:8.8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"lol.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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cheers

thzz

579 posts

Joined May 2012

thzz 2017-03-18T13:09:40+00:00

M4M with Chromoxx

[Muzukashii]

00:32:332 - there's a strong snaredrum sound. i think you shouldn't ignore this. it's np to make more density imo, so try like this image.
image
00:34:913 - same
01:35:468 (329) - K? there's a cymbal sound.

[Oni]

00:13:623 (15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22) - & 00:16:203 (27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34) - why don't you make variation for them?
01:22:175 (373,374,375,376,377,378) - these are 1/3!!!
01:30:797 (416,417,418,419,420,421,422,423) - & 01:32:235 (424,425,426,427,428,429) - can you make them different? a bit boring and weird.

that's it~
nice mushup. good luck

newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2017-03-18T22:46:45+00:00

Did an irc with Chromoxx

Log

15:50 Chromoxx: yoooo
15:50 newyams99: yoooo
15:50 Chromoxx: would you have time to check the 2 animu GDs this weekend?
15:50 newyams99: sure 
15:51 newyams99: actually
15:51 Chromoxx: since i basically gave him the GDs while the std bubble was popped and it's just waiting to get done
15:51 newyams99: could you send them to me 
15:51 newyams99: cuz I don't think I dl'd it 
15:51 *Chromoxx is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1198930 TrySail & TRUE - High Free Spirits vs. DREAM SOLISTER]
15:51 Chromoxx: this thing
15:51 newyams99: yaa
15:51 Chromoxx: we could maybe do a quick irc now, shouldn't take too long since it's just 2 diffs and 1:40 or so
15:51 newyams99: yeah
15:51 Chromoxx: if you have time
15:51 newyams99: I do
15:52 Chromoxx: dope
15:52 Chromoxx: i can throw you that aikagi mod tomorrow then :p
15:55 newyams99: coool 
15:56 newyams99: 00:20:881 - this section seems a bit difficult in the muzu in comparison to the really ez parts around it
15:57 Chromoxx: well it's just using 5plets and 4plets
15:57 Chromoxx: no real long patterns
15:57 newyams99: I know 
15:58 Chromoxx: 00:31:203 - i could buff up this a bit maybe
15:59 Chromoxx: so that it doesn't stand out too much
15:59 newyams99:  well I personally think that the section I mentioned could be just slightly reduced in both diffs 
16:00 Chromoxx: mh, i think it flows well to the music and fits the pace
16:00 Chromoxx: no real need to nerf it, i just buffed the section afterwards in the muzu slightly to not make it as sparse in comparison
16:00 newyams99: ok sure 
16:01 Chromoxx: 00:33:139 - 00:37:977 - to be precise i added notes here, it's not much addition but when you compare it to before it certainly has more impact now
16:01 newyams99: kk
16:03 newyams99: do you wanna add a finish on 00:53:268 (157) - 
16:03 newyams99: in the muzu
16:03 newyams99: cuz you had it in the oni
16:04 newyams99: I'd also keep 01:08:537 (228,229,230,231) - consistent to the oni
16:05 Chromoxx: don't want to have as many finishers in the muzu
16:05 Chromoxx: because overusing them becomes a bit overwhelming so i wanna keep them on only the strongest sounds
16:05 newyams99: I still think you should do it for the second one then 
16:05 newyams99: 01:08:537 (228,229,230,231) - this one 
16:06 Chromoxx: sure
16:06 Chromoxx: did that one then
16:08 newyams99: cool
16:09 newyams99: 01:39:600 (345) - I think you could delete this and just make the 1/2 a 7-hit pattern to make it as long as the other longer patterns here idk lol
16:10 Chromoxx: i wanna keep it a bit longer to emphasize the kind of transition this phrase offers
16:11 newyams99: then I'd emphasize it more imo 
16:11 newyams99: well doesn't matter tho
16:15 Chromoxx: yea the current pattern emphasizes it well enough imo
16:18 newyams99: 00:41:526 - I don't think you need this many finishers in this section in the oni
16:19 newyams99: like it'd sound nicer if there weren't triplets like 00:43:623 (169,170,171) - to interrupt the finishers 
16:19 Chromoxx: hm, i feel like it creates good buildup
16:20 newyams99: I'd start the finisher buildup from 00:46:687 - 
16:20 Chromoxx: well, 00:43:784 - not having a finisher and being a triplet adds more emphasis on 00:44:106 -
16:21 Chromoxx: but yea i can remove the kat finishers before 00:46:687 -
16:22 newyams99: please do :D 
16:22 Chromoxx: did it :p
16:23 newyams99: you could possibly put finishers on 00:47:977 (194) - 00:48:461 (198) - 00:48:945 (202) - for buildup and a bit more challenge I suppose
16:23 Chromoxx: would lose emphasis on 00:49:268 -
16:24 Chromoxx: so i'd rather keep them as is
16:24 newyams99: kk
16:25 newyams99: I really like this second song lol
16:25 Chromoxx: ayy
16:27 newyams99: 01:12:130 (325,326,327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334) - I feel like the pattern should start with a K and end with a D, based off the vocals 
16:29 Chromoxx: D to K flows better with the patterns before and after
16:29 Chromoxx: and also fits well
16:29 newyams99: ok sure
16:30 newyams99: are you gonna add a finish on 01:35:468 (445) - 
16:30 newyams99: :3
16:32 Chromoxx: i know there is a kind of crash there but it would be kinda unexpected and not flow well with how i mapped the section imo
16:34 newyams99: ok
16:35 newyams99: also felt like you could add a hit at 01:21:636 - 
16:36 Chromoxx: would flow kinda weirdly imo, i thought about adding it there when mapping but i feel like the 1/1 break into the kdd sounds better
16:37 newyams99: D:
16:39 Chromoxx: also the drum hit there is kinda weaker than the others
16:39 Chromoxx: altho if you want i could add it since it doesn't make too much difference
16:39 newyams99: well up to u
16:40 newyams99: and 00:19:590 (27,28) - in the muzu could be changed to D D like the oni
16:40 newyams99: and that's all

Ready for bubblez

Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Chromoxx 2017-03-18T23:05:26+00:00

thzz wrote:
M4M with Chromoxx

[Muzukashii]
00:32:332 - there's a strong snaredrum sound. i think you shouldn't ignore this. it's np to make more density imo, so try like this image. following a simpler rythm here, would feel weird otherwise
image
00:34:913 - same same
01:35:468 (329) - K? there's a cymbal sound. newyams suggested something similar in the oni, but i want to keep this section relatively calm to lead out smoothly so i won't add the finisher
[Oni]
00:13:623 (15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22) - & 00:16:203 (27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34) - why don't you make variation for them? made it a bit different
01:22:175 (373,374,375,376,377,378) - these are 1/3!!! ohhhh fixed, rip xD
01:30:797 (416,417,418,419,420,421,422,423) - & 01:32:235 (424,425,426,427,428,429) - can you make them different? a bit boring and weird. yes, changed a bit
that's it~
nice mushup. good luck

thanks for the mod!

Sotarks

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Sotarks 2017-03-18T23:14:46+00:00

Updated taiko diffs, and tags! Guess we're ready !

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2017-03-19T20:42:06+00:00

Made some final changes:

- Fixed snapping issues in normal and kalitarks
- Fixed volume green lines
- Fixed preview point

Waiting on Stjpa to confirm the set can be rebubbled.

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2017-03-19T20:52:22+00:00

Okay, received confirmation from Stjpa.

Rebubbled~

Sotarks

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Sotarks 2017-03-19T21:58:27+00:00

Thanks monstrata! I hope nobody will have any problems with BG and mp3 now

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