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Tetsuya Shibata - The Viper (Echidna Battle)

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antonieo
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2010年10月24日 at 0:15:48

Artist: Tetsuya Shibata
Title: The Viper (Echidna Battle)
Source: Devil May Cry 4
Tags: DMC Nero Viper battle
BPM: 142
Filesize: 4838kb
Play Time: 02:35
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.79 stars, 296 notes)
  2. Normal (2.53 stars, 133 notes)
Download: Tetsuya Shibata - The Viper (Echidna Battle)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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It's an OST of Devil May Cry 4

Thank all of you for helping me with this , I'm too busy to improve the map these days , too much work to do . I may resume after this period .

感谢所有为我的map提供帮助的朋友,这阵子我忙得完全没时间改map,有一堆工作要做。等忙过了这阵子再继续。



20101024 update
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General
Mp3 has been cut , only necessary part is kept .
Change bitrate from 320kbps to 192kbps
The Mp3 file size is reduced to 3.65MB (from 6.12MB).

Normal
Some hitsound changed

Hard
Some finish hitsound added
Some combo sets changed
Some notes replaced ( a bit smoother )



Update History
SPOILER
20101023 update
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Normal
Now Easy level is renamed to Normal
Some combos are modified

Hard
Set the Tick Rate to 2
A lot notes are modified to make beating smoother( both hit time and spacing )
Final spinner is modified
Some hitsounds changed


20101022 update
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Both Easy and Hard
1.Timeing offset and bpm fixed again
2.All sliders are modified to fit the bpm
3.All notes and sliders are resnaped on timeline
4.All notes and sliders are replaced to fit the spacing


20101021 update
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Easy
1.Timing and BPM refixed .
2.Some Sliders have been modified to get smoother


Hard
1.Some notes have been adjusted to make them smoother


20101020 update
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1.Easy level is complete
2.Some notes and sliders modified


20101019 update
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1.Timing and bpm are fixed
2.A lot notes and sliders have been readjusted to make beating smoother .
3.New Storyboard
4.Insane level is removed( Easy or Normal level will be updated in days)


20101017 update
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1.Now the hard level is a complete version .
2.Storyboard is done , there're some BG effects now .
3.Some notes have been adjusted to achieve more accuracy .
Topic Starter
antonieo
20101017 update
Now the hard level is a complete version .
Storyboard is done , there're some BG effects now .
Some notes have been adjusted to achieve more accuracy .
Meiri
Hi antonieo !

Here Is My Mod ~

Easy]
First Of All, Chech Your Timing And BPM :D
At 00:23:690 To 00:26:648 It Suddenly Changed BPM To 142 ? Make It 96 And Make A Smooth Slider ~ This'll Make A Novice Player Shock
At 00:33:901, It Speed Up Again, Make It Really Close If You Want It Like This OR Make A Slider With 1 Reverse Then At Next White Tick Make It Again ( With Go Back To BPM 96 )
01:35:561 (1) - Remove New Combo Color ?
01:36:406 (1) - ^ ?
01:37:253 (1) - ^ ?
At 01:44:875, Like What I Said Before, It Speed Up ( Again ), Try To Easy This A Bit

Hard
00:11:491 (8) Move To Previous White Tick And Add A Note Here After You Move It To Previous White Tick
01:09:596 - Add A Quick Break Here ?
01:12:976 - ^ ?
01:14:671 - ^ ?
01:16:368 - ^ ?
01:18:047 - ^ ?
Other Is Fine :D !
Nice Hard Map ! But You Must Focus On HitSound & Placing :D

That's All Hope It Usefull !
Thank You :D

If You Feel The OFFSET Is Wrong, Why Not PM Zekira ?
He Is Pro At Timing You Know :D
Topic Starter
antonieo
Thank you .
Dotsu
~STAR~


Topic Starter
antonieo
Thank you !
Glad to know you like my map !
Charles445
Change the first timing section to BPM 142.00 OFFSET 1,764.
Delete all the other red timing sections.
Go through the map and resnap everything, and make sure the sliders are correct.
Do this for both difficulties.
Once you've done that, PM me and I will mod your map.
Topic Starter
antonieo

Charles445 wrote:

Change the first timing section to BPM 142.00 OFFSET 1,764.
Delete all the other red timing sections.
Go through the map and resnap everything, and make sure the sliders are correct.
Do this for both difficulties.
Once you've done that, PM me and I will mod your map.
Thanks for your timing offset suggestion , really accurate ! Great help !
Now they're all done , please mod when you are free .
Charles445
Alright, here is the mod.

Easy
SPOILER
This is real tough for an easy - consider renaming it Normal
Change Snap Divisor to 1/4
Click Timing/Resnap All Notes
00:24:580 Remove New Combo
00:25:425 Stretch this to fix its timing
00:34:721 Remove New Combo
00:36:411 ^^
01:16:130 New Combo
01:17:820 ^^

Hard
SPOILER
Set the Tickrate to 2
Change Snap Divisor to 1/4
00:11:271 Move the 6 here
00:11:376 Move the 7 here
00:11:482 Move the 8 here
00:12:327 Move the 2 here
00:12:749 Move the 3 here
00:12:749 Stretch this to fix its timing
00:14:545 Move the 3 here
00:16:235 ^^
00:17:925 ^^
00:19:616 ^^
00:25:425 Shorten the repeats by two
00:25:425 Stretch this to fix its timing
00:42:327 New Combo
00:45:707 ^^
01:55:848 Remove New Combo
01:56:693 ^^
01:57:538 ^^
01:59:228 ^^
02:00:073 ^^
02:00:918 ^^
02:02:609 ^^
02:04:299 ^^
02:05:989 ^^
02:07:679 ^^
02:24:580 Move the 3 here
02:24:686 Move the 4 here
02:26:271 Move the 3 here
02:26:376 Move the 4 here
02:27:961 Move the 3 here
02:28:066 Move the 4 here
02:29:651 Move the 3 here
02:29:756 Move the 4 here
02:31:130 ^^
02:31:235 Move the 5 here
02:31:447 Move the 6 here
02:32:820 Move the 4 here
02:32:925 Move the 5 here
02:33:137 Move the 6 here
02:34:510 Move the 4 here
02:34:616 Move the 5 here
02:34:827 Move the 6 here
02:35:566 Make the spinner start here and end at 02:37:256
Go through the map and fix any spacing errors.
Work on the hitsounds.

Looking much better. Good luck to you, and a star.
Topic Starter
antonieo

Charles445 wrote:

Alright, here is the mod.

Easy
SPOILER
This is real tough for an easy - consider renaming it Normal
Change Snap Divisor to 1/4
Click Timing/Resnap All Notes
00:24:580 Remove New Combo
00:25:425 Stretch this to fix its timing
00:34:721 Remove New Combo
00:36:411 ^^
01:16:130 New Combo
01:17:820 ^^

Hard
SPOILER
Set the Tickrate to 2
Change Snap Divisor to 1/4
00:11:271 Move the 6 here
00:11:376 Move the 7 here
00:11:482 Move the 8 here
00:12:327 Move the 2 here
00:12:749 Move the 3 here
00:12:749 Stretch this to fix its timing
00:14:545 Move the 3 here
00:16:235 ^^
00:17:925 ^^
00:19:616 ^^
00:25:425 Shorten the repeats by two
00:25:425 Stretch this to fix its timing
00:42:327 New Combo
00:45:707 ^^
01:55:848 Remove New Combo
01:56:693 ^^
01:57:538 ^^
01:59:228 ^^
02:00:073 ^^
02:00:918 ^^
02:02:609 ^^
02:04:299 ^^
02:05:989 ^^
02:07:679 ^^
02:24:580 Move the 3 here
02:24:686 Move the 4 here
02:26:271 Move the 3 here
02:26:376 Move the 4 here
02:27:961 Move the 3 here
02:28:066 Move the 4 here
02:29:651 Move the 3 here
02:29:756 Move the 4 here
02:31:130 ^^
02:31:235 Move the 5 here
02:31:447 Move the 6 here
02:32:820 Move the 4 here
02:32:925 Move the 5 here
02:33:137 Move the 6 here
02:34:510 Move the 4 here
02:34:616 Move the 5 here
02:34:827 Move the 6 here
02:35:566 Make the spinner start here and end at 02:37:256
Go through the map and fix any spacing errors.
Work on the hitsounds.

Looking much better. Good luck to you, and a star.
Thank you for your time !
levesterz
nice map ^^
kanpakyin
Sorry for late..Mod is come
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BluE=Just a suggestion
ReD=I think you should fix this

[Normal]
00:07:214(2)gemination with (3)
02:05:129(x)using soft sound

[Hard]
you must add some hit sound such as whistle and finish
00:11:906(1)keep using x1BPM
01:40:208(9)New combo.
01:43:138(9)^
01:48:234(x)add a note?
02:33:181(6.7)down 3 grid..

nice..star.
noneed
Heya!

General:Hmm, ask Sallad4Ever to cut your mp3

Normal:
00:11:904 (1) - spacing
02:32:186 (1,2) - place these two at the same position like the previous (1,2)

Hard:
AR+1
00:45:707 (1) - place it in the center
01:41:482 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - don't you think 16 is a bit too high?

simple mapset.
wmfchris
Use Elipsy warning?
Cut mp3?

[hard]
0:11:059 (5) right 2 grids?
0:27:116 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) stack the ending point?
0:36:411 (1,2) spacing
1:11:904 (2,3) spacing should be 0.53x too?

nice spaced.
star~
Topic Starter
antonieo

kanpakyin wrote:

Sorry for late..Mod is come
------------------------------------------
BluE=Just a suggestion
ReD=I think you should fix this

[Normal]
00:07:214(2)gemination with (3)
02:05:129(x)using soft sound

[Hard]
you must add some hit sound such as whistle and finish
00:11:906(1)keep using x1BPM
01:40:208(9)New combo.
01:43:138(9)^
01:48:234(x)add a note?
02:33:181(6.7)down 3 grid..

nice..star.
Thanks for your mod !
Topic Starter
antonieo

noneed wrote:

Heya!

General:Hmm, ask Sallad4Ever to cut your mp3

Normal:
00:11:904 (1) - spacing
02:32:186 (1,2) - place these two at the same position like the previous (1,2)

Hard:
AR+1
00:45:707 (1) - place it in the center
01:41:482 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - don't you think 16 is a bit too high?

simple mapset.
Ahh , I already forgot it , I'll cut the mp3 , thank you !
Topic Starter
antonieo

wmfchris wrote:

Use Elipsy warning?
Cut mp3?

[hard]
0:11:059 (5) right 2 grids?
0:27:116 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) stack the ending point?
0:36:411 (1,2) spacing
1:11:904 (2,3) spacing should be 0.53x too?

nice spaced.
star~
Thank you for your time !
Topic Starter
antonieo

levesterz wrote:

nice map ^^
Thanks for your encouraging !
Verdisphena
Mai mod:

General:
Cut the mp3 if you not using in all the map

Hard :

00:11:059 (5) - Spacing
00:11:482 (8) - ^
02:16:975 (1) - ^

Normal :

00:25:425 (2) - That not agree whit the music, sounds ugly
01:48:242 (2) - Add a note and a finish


That is all
Topic Starter
antonieo

Verdisphena wrote:

Mai mod:

General:
Cut the mp3 if you not using in all the map

Hard :

00:11:059 (5) - Spacing
00:11:482 (8) - ^
02:16:975 (1) - ^

Normal :

00:25:425 (2) - That not agree whit the music, sounds ugly
01:48:242 (2) - Add a note and a finish


That is all
Thanks for your time !
NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
offset:1815. 现在这个偏差太大了。记得resnap all notes和重定绿线
MP3剪的过于粗糙。结尾请加个渐弱
640*480的BG质量稍差,如果可能的话找到800*600或1024*768的

[Normal]
HP-1.圈号+1。OD-1
00:06:885 (1,2,3) - spacing。和之后同节拍对比下
00:11:110 (3,1) - spacing,明显太远
00:25:476 (2) - slider没对准线,请重新画。
01:46:603 (1) - 再重复次,然后尾加finish

[Hard]
只说个总体印象。段落重复太多了,和Normal的重复太多了。请用心做的多样化些。note的间距可以通过右上角看,请仔细查一下。remap建议。
Charles445
Did you change the mp3?
If so, then try 1,804 as the offset.
Also, there is an unnecessary red timing section at the end that screws everything up. Remove it and resnap those notes.

No kudosu please
Lovely Crab
[Normal]
00:25:425(2) - 间距有问题.
00:27:116 - 这一段的8个SLIDE和HARD一样叠好.
01:07:679(1,2,3) - 很难看,这3点速度很慢,可以不用考虑Distance snap自由摆放,尽量摆得好看些.
01:11:059(1,2,3) - ^
01:14:440(1,2,3) - ^
01:38:102 - 这段的Clap听上去有点突兀,尝试下别的音效吧.自定义的也可以尝试下.
01:48:242(x) - 加个NOTE,并且加个finish
01:55:003 - 02:16:975 这一段为什么不和HARD一样用1/3的节奏去做呢?1/4听着并不好.
02:23:735(1) - 类似这样的长SLIDE要拉得整齐必须要多设置几个白色点,具体可以参考krisom的图.

[Hard]
01:07:679-01:17:820 - 这段不建议沿用Normal的,Hard需要更多的节奏,只有钟声就太单调了.
02:23:735 - 这红线是什么用的?删了吧.
总体感觉Hard的问题还是比较多的.
1是太在乎distance snap,导致排列出来的NOTE不是很好看,间距较大的点可以考虑稍微变化间距让整个MAP更美观.
2是排列不是很整齐,把Grid切到Tiny再仔细排一下.
3是01:21:200-02:16:975的节奏太过单调,可以仔细听一下其实不只一种声音的,可以按照那个声音来下,因为那个声音比较多变.
Hard还是需要比较大的修改的.

my star~
Colin Hou
[General]:
  1. offset: 1804 原来的太早了,这个虽然可能有差,但是会好很多 记得把绿线也移一下
  2. hitsounds的话 用鼓点作normal-hitclap.wav然后打开custom override,听背景音下clap就能做到一般水平了。鼓点的wav可以在很多图的文件夹里翻到 soft-hitclap.wav也用一样的鼓点会好点
  3. 这歌裁得很纠结...尾部建议用goldwave/adobe audition之类做下减弱处理 有图因为这个被戳泡>_>
[Normal]:
  1. 这个图本身不难 但是SV对于最低难来说很高 建议再做一个更简单的难度
  2. 00:06:874 (1,2,3) - spacing和后面差太多 建议统一
  3. 00:11:944 (1,2) - spacing 一拍半的间距要体现出来
[Hard]:
  1. 这个难度有4个slider speed: x0.5 x0.7 x1.0 x1.5 只能存在三个 所以把x0.5/0.7哪个改一下好了
  2. 最后的一个红线没必要 换绿线
  3. 00:24:580 (1,2,3) - spacing bpm更改之后spacing snap也会变 所以要注意 这里最好沿用之前的距离 否则很突然...
  4. 00:39:792 (5,6) - 建议合体成为一个slider..
  5. 02:16:693 (5,6,1) - 这样的spacing不远不近...可以把1按原来的距离放 或者是放更远点(比如屏幕中央)
这曲子不好做...重复太多了,需要动脑子求变化
star~
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