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Newbie Game 15: Rise From The Ashes [Game over!]

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Sakura
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Hika wrote:

I don't care if he defended me. Someone defending me does not make them automatically town in my eyes. their play is more important to me than me securing a townread in everyone else's reads.
So basically you're implying that
Scum Frosty decided to ignore an open road to a mislynch that would make a towny look bad, in favor of WIFOM?
I really have a hard time believing that and it feels more like you're trying to scramble for reasons to lynch him, but hey, apparently your supposed townslip means i shouldn't pursue you anymore right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm not even gonna be mad if i lose when you're scum at this point.
Hika
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Hika
Are you referring to him pushing a D1 lynch or D2 lynch?
Sakura
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D2
Hika
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Hold on, I'll reply to you after I reread his ISO because I'm not sure what you mean.
Hika
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+ I've been at the doctor for an hour and finally got a room wtf yay
Sakura
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The momment you posted this:

Hika wrote:

He could be scum keeping me alive for WIFOM.
You already revealed your true motives.
This post signifies 2 things
Either you're scum that is trying to scramble for reasons to scumread Frosty.
Or you're town so deep in confbias that you cant think of anything else of why he would be scum, but just WANT him to be scum.
Hika
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Hika
I think you might be looking too hard into it, actually
Hika
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Because afaik, you just said on the last page that Frosty is town because GUT FEELING.
Sakura
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Yeah and i explained where that gut feeling came from.
Sakura
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Too bad your little mislynch vanished into thin air huh
Sakura
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Vote: Hika
Literally dont care why everyone thinks she townslipped at this point.
She just went from looking for any reason to scumread Frosty to trying to discredit me.
This is scum.
rEdo
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Wow, that's bold. Sakura, she's been doing that to pretty much everyone who's been suspicious of her at slightest, as far as I have seen, ourselves included. Do you imply this is a bold scum move?
rEdo
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You know what, I'll sheep Sakura on this.

Unvote
Vote: Hika
Hika
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Hika
Eh, I'm not gonna question it because I'm town.
She was my scum read anyway lel
rEdo
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rEdo
Am I your scumread too?
Hika
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Hika
No you're not
Hika
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Hika
You're my conf townread
rEdo
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rEdo

Hika wrote:

bboy + frosty
or bboy + Jess

are my corrected scumteam reads.

Hika wrote:

Eh, I'm not gonna question it because I'm town.
She was my scum read anyway lel
?????????????????????????????
rEdo
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rEdo
Hika, who's scum?
Hika
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Hika
bboy frosty Sakura
rEdo
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rEdo
Why abraker isn't included on this list? Why do you want to lynch Jess?
Hika
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Sakura because she tried to defend frosty not being scum.
Bboy because I have no idea wtf he's on about.
Frosty because he's flopping his reads too much. This can be applied to Sakura too.
Hika
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abraker not on my list because he interrogated me D1 and I believe he doing his best to scumhunt.
Jess I'm willing to lynch bc she is anti town.
rEdo
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I'll let myself use the red color to respond to this.

Hika wrote:

Sakura because she tried to defend frosty not being scum. Is that really a scumtell that you don't agree with somebody?
Bboy because I have no idea wtf he's on about.
Frosty because he's flopping his reads too much. This can be applied to Sakura too. How is he flopping? Provide examples.

Hika wrote:

abraker not on my list because he interrogated me D1 and I believe he doing his best to scumhunt. You seem to be agreeing with him on the Frostings scumread. You see, you said you believe he's doing his best. Shouldn't the same logic apply for Sakura's townread on Frosty?
Jess I'm willing to lynch bc she is anti town. Why would you lynch anti-town on top of scum?
rEdo
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rEdo wrote:

I'll let myself use the red color to respond to this.

Hika wrote:

Sakura because she tried to defend frosty not being scum. Is that really a scumtell that you don't agree with somebody?
Bboy because I have no idea wtf he's on about. Fine.
Frosty because he's flopping his reads too much. This can be applied to Sakura too. How is he flopping? Provide examples.

Hika wrote:

abraker not on my list because he interrogated me D1 and I believe he doing his best to scumhunt. You seem to be agreeing with him on the Frostings scumread. You see, you said you believe he's doing his best. Shouldn't the same logic apply for Sakura's townread on Frosty?
Jess I'm willing to lynch bc she is anti town. Why would you lynch anti-town on top of scum?
Formatting.
Hika
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I will gladly respond to this when I get on a computer, as quoting requires too much effort.
rEdo
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You're on a bus home? It's almost midnight here in Poland, and I've got classes at 12 AM. I guess I ain't responding to that overnight then.

Nobody hammers that shit before I wake up. I double dare you.

Good night.
rEdo
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I would like you to give us a strong case on Sakura, too. I know it's asking for much, but I just want to know your POV as much as possible.
Hika
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Hika
I can do that.
Hika
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Hika
Also yes, I'm taking the train home at the moment so a reply in the next 2 hours is highly unlikely. A reply to a post that requires me to quote however.
B1rd
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Welp, seems it's gonna be a long day. I guess I'm gonna have to do a fair bit of reading to reevaluate my read on Hika.

rEdo wrote:

Nobody hammers that shit before I wake up. I double dare you.
I can just imagine, we get to L-1, Jess hammers, then we lynch Jess but it turns out she's town and we lose the game :lol:
Hika
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And that's why I didn't vote because she might hammer herself :p
Hika
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rEdo wrote:

I'll let myself use the red color to respond to this.

Hika wrote:

Sakura because she tried to defend frosty not being scum. Is that really a scumtell that you don't agree with somebody?
Bboy because I have no idea wtf he's on about. Fine.
Frosty because he's flopping his reads too much. This can be applied to Sakura too. How is he flopping? Provide examples.

Hika wrote:

abraker not on my list because he interrogated me D1 and I believe he doing his best to scumhunt. You seem to be agreeing with him on the Frostings scumread. You see, you said you believe he's doing his best. Shouldn't the same logic apply for Sakura's townread on Frosty?
Jess I'm willing to lynch bc she is anti town. Why would you lynch anti-town on top of scum?
1. It's not exactly a scum tell, but she's saying that I'm pulling the reasons why I'm reading him are incorrect. I'm not saying "oh because she doesn't agree with me, she's scum" but it's more so how hard she's trying to discredit me that makes me seem like she's his scum buddy or I'm probably just looking into it too ez. If she was scum then maybe she wouldn't out herself so much, but I personally think it's unusual because I don't recall a time that she's done this ever. And if she has done it, forgive me but why should it be THAT bad that I'm scum reading her? It's not like I'm asking everyone to vote her because she's scummy.

2. I personally think Frostings was flopping bc he was really intent on getting me lynched it looked like, D1. Then all of a sudden he comes to say I've "townslipped" and everyone hops aboard on that claim. I know I'm town of course but the fact that he did that caught me off guard because his usual town play would be to hunt me down all game. I could be wrong, ofc and thinking too hard into that too but that's my thought process on that. Now that I think about it, I probably dont have too much of a clear reason to be scumreading him due to the fact I feel as if I need to gather my reads more.

3. If Sakura wants to townread Frosty, be my guest. I'm not mad about it, it's just the fact she defended him so much that made me want to vote her.

4. Isn't Jess like L-1, L-2 or some shit? No one is gonna follow me if I'm like "hey let's vote bboy guys!!"
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Sakura
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Oh look the OMGUS read that i predicted like 20 pages ago.
Hika
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But there were reasons that led up to it, still think I'd rather vote Jess out tho!!!!
Sakura
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you generated an initial scumread on me when i made the case on you and was scumreading you, when i started thinking you prolly werent scum after rereading lovers mafia you changed back to not scumreading me, and now that im literally voting you, you're scumreading me again
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And you'd rather lynch Jess over any of your 3 "scumreads"
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hika
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nice emote

I'm pretty sure we all came to a consensus that we were voting Jess out?!
Otherwise if we're doing it that way, my voting would be bboy > frosty > you.

So calm down, you're still not my first choice
Hika
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You did make valid points here and there too. So you wouldn't even be a good lynch for me IMO.
I would only scum read you because you're trying to invalidate my scumread on frosty.
And you're protecting him but I guess scum wouldn't publicly do that...
Sakura
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I didnt know town wasnt allowed to townread a person someone else was scumreading!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I was asked for my reasons to townread Frosty and i explained them to the best of my ability
You on the other hand proceeded to discredit every single one of them by saying:

Hika wrote:

He could be scum keeping me alive for WIFOM.

Hika wrote:

Because afaik, you just said on the last page that Frosty is town because GUT FEELING.
Sakura
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Following your logic i should be scumreading every person that tried to defend you when i initially scumread you
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hika
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Also I didn't realize that I couldn't scumread someone who was protecting one of my scumreads!!!!

What do you not get about the WIFOM thing!!! If I am not lynched nor NK'd, people will think I am scum! Do you not understand the context of WIFOM here? Same thing applies to Jess! If she isn't lynched, she will try to cover her ass and make excuses for the D1 hammer and if it keeps going, scum can use her as a shield!
Sakura
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Sakura wrote:

Following your logic i should be scumreading every person that tried to defend you when i initially scumread you
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hika
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also the first line is sarcasm the second paragraph is what I really think
Hika
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No bc no one is doing the same thing you are doing....
Sakura
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Hika wrote:

What do you not get about the WIFOM thing!!! If I am not lynched nor NK'd, people will think I am scum!
This is a good one, why would you be NK'd over rEdo?
Hika
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Also yes, feel free to vote me. I am completely fine with that, however, we aren't going to do the same thing in terms of reads. We won't have the same reads either, so I don't see why what I've said confused you.
Sakura
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Hika wrote:

No bc no one is doing the same thing you are doing....
They did, to the point of making me drop it, are you even reading the game?
Hika
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Also he'd be NK'd before me IMO
Hika
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Hika
alright, then if someone defends you with 4 different people then okay I'll stop reading you as scum okay?
Sakura
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Hika wrote:

Also yes, feel free to vote me. I am completely fine with that, however, we aren't going to do the same thing in terms of reads. We won't have the same reads either, so I don't see why what I've said confused you.
Because what you said sounded like reaching.
Hika
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Reaching? Define reaching in context.
Sakura
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Reaching i.e grapsing for straws, meaning since you're out of reasons you bring up whatever you can come up with in order to continue the read.
Also used for people that grasp as straws for finding a reason to scumread someone like "OMG they didnt reply within like 1 hour they are scum coz they are buying time"
Sakura
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WIFOM is the globally used method to try to describe reasoning for why scum would do something when nothing else makes sense.
Your statement about Frosty doing what he did for WIFOM is the epitome of reaching because it's a perfectly universal explanation for anything and you cant find any other reasons to scumread him after my posts, so you take the easy way out. Which is why i mentioned it felt like A) You're scum trying to look for reasons to continue the push or B) You have confirmation bias, after which you tried to discredit me, and then proceeded to magically put me in your scumreads after my vote.

I'd say you're still salty about:

Sakura wrote:

Too bad your little mislynch vanished into thin air huh
abraker
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Sakura wrote:

Also used for people that grasp as straws for finding a reason to scumread someone like "OMG they didnt reply within like 1 hour they are scum coz they are buying time"
It's as credible as your "gut feeling" imo
Sakura
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And here comes the knight to save the woman in distress.
Sakura
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Completely ignoring everything that happened to boot.
Frostings
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I feel like Hika is scumreading me, because I'm townreading Hika
and Sakura is townreading me because I'm townreading Sakura
Frostings
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I'm trying to see this from Sakura's perspective, but her points against Hika aren't really as convincing as (at least what I believe is) Hika's townslip

Not to discredit Sakura's points because in a normal scenario I would agree, but my townread on Hika is pretty strong at this point, I can't really see it from the PoV of Hika being scum (also I should mention my townread on Hika isn't solely from her supposed slip alone)
Frostings
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Just for everybody's interest
Every time I play with Hika I have a feeling from her general playstyle that she plays scummy which is why I always get suspicious of her early in the game, and she would always end up town. It's sort of the same pattern in this game. I think she's also suspicious of me for changing my read on her which I never do as town :) and I think it's acceptable

Reaching for reasons to scumread me just seem like she's flustered, and I don't really think it's a viable strategy for scum when Jess is on the table, unless it's a Hika/Jess team. Even so, someone already mentioned if Jess is scum, then her scumpartner is likely gonna let it happen, because they'd be standing out otherwise

An alternative could be me/Hika as a scumteam like Sakura mentioned, but that would actually be the worst scumteam ever. Hika would be hard bussing me drawing attention to herself while I would be hard protecting her, drawing attention to myself :)
Hika
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rEdo wrote:

I'll let myself use the red color to respond to this.

Hika wrote:

Sakura because she tried to defend frosty not being scum. Is that really a scumtell that you don't agree with somebody?
Bboy because I have no idea wtf he's on about. Fine.
Frosty because he's flopping his reads too much. This can be applied to Sakura too. How is he flopping? Provide examples.

Hika wrote:

abraker not on my list because he interrogated me D1 and I believe he doing his best to scumhunt. You seem to be agreeing with him on the Frostings scumread. You see, you said you believe he's doing his best. Shouldn't the same logic apply for Sakura's townread on Frosty?
Jess I'm willing to lynch bc she is anti town. Why would you lynch anti-town on top of scum?
1. It's not exactly a scum tell, but she's saying that I'm pulling the reasons why I'm reading him are incorrect. I'm not saying "oh because she doesn't agree with me, she's scum" but it's more so how hard she's trying to discredit me that makes me seem like she's his scum buddy or I'm probably just looking into it too ez. If she was scum then maybe she wouldn't out herself so much, but I personally think it's unusual because I don't recall a time that she's done this ever. And if she has done it, forgive me but why should it be THAT bad that I'm scum reading her? It's not like I'm asking everyone to vote her because she's scummy.

2. I personally think Frostings was flopping bc he was really intent on getting me lynched it looked like, D1. Then all of a sudden he comes to say I've "townslipped" and everyone hops aboard on that claim. I know I'm town of course but the fact that he did that caught me off guard because his usual town play would be to hunt me down all game. I could be wrong, ofc and thinking too hard into that too but that's my thought process on that. Now that I think about it, I probably dont have too much of a clear reason to be scumreading him due to the fact I feel as if I need to gather my reads more.

3. If Sakura wants to townread Frosty, be my guest. I'm not mad about it, it's just the fact she defended him so much that made me want to vote her.

4. Isn't Jess like L-1, L-2 or some shit? No one is gonna follow me if I'm like "hey let's vote bboy guys!!"
Hika
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also i typed that liek an hour ago and i accidentally added into my earlier post in the other page so technically I edited my page.

is that gonna warrant me a fucking modkill ):<
Hika
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and also fuck, frosty posted. lemme read.
Hika
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Also, for formatting sake:
@Mod: I accidentally posted the wall post above in a post a few pages back when I tried to retrieve rEdo's quote. Does that warrant me being modkilled because if so, I completely understand.
Hika
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Frostings wrote:

Just for everybody's interest
Every time I play with Hika I have a feeling from her general playstyle that she plays scummy which is why I always get suspicious of her early in the game, and she would always end up town. It's sort of the same pattern in this game. I think she's also suspicious of me for changing my read on her which I never do as town :)
Thank you for explaining this better than me.
Sakura
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Oh looks like Hika's calmed down, that post looks so much better than what you were doing 3 pages ago.
Sakura
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ftr i never discredited you.
What happened from my PoV was
>Here's why i think Frosty's town
>But he could do that as scum
>But i dont think Frosty would do that because this doesnt make sense
>But he could do that as scum
>Look it's very hard for me to believe he would do this as scum, specially with a free road here.
>He could be doing it for WIFOM
>I think you're reaching and it shows signs of you being confbiased or scum fishing for a mislynch
>BUT YOU SAID IT WAS GUT
And that's when i snapped.
Sakura
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Unvote
Vote: beeboy
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what
Sakura
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what do you mean what
Frostings
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that's it?
man, just when we were getting a good conversation going
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sidenote:
I'll be around a few more hours right now
tomorrow I'll be gone for the whole day, but will probably be around in the evening around 23:00 UTC
I'll be around most of the time leading up to the DL though
Sakura
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I'm not interested in pursuing this further when i no longer think Hika's scum.
Sakura
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So is there anything specific you want to talk about during the few more hours you have?
Hika
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bboy is a good vote though. so i'm going to pursue it as well.
Vote:bboy
B1rd
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well that saves me from doing a lot of reading in a relatively short amount of time :?

unvote
Vote: beeboy123

I'm fine with a beeboy lynch, if the momentum's gonna swing that way. Though @Sakura, what made you change your mind to vote beeboy over Jess so quickly?
Hika
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hopefully I dont get MK'd though. the chances of that are amazingly great ;p
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B1rd wrote:

well that saves me from doing a lot of reading in a relatively short amount of time :?

unvote
Vote: beeboy123

I'm fine with a beeboy lynch, if the momentum's gonna swing that way. Though @Sakura, what made you change your mind to vote beeboy over Jess so quickly?
Something feels weird about beeboy's play.
I'm used to him being more involved and he just seems to be taking the sidelines lately, i know his irl is though rn, but it still feels weird.
B1rd
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Yeah that's pretty much the same reasoning I think he's scum. He's definitely my strongest scumread, though I'm gonna regret that we didn't lynch Jess if it turns out he's town after all.
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I spent most of D2 trying to lynch Jess and everyone kept saying she would flip town after her stunt.
If you get rekt by her not my problem anymore, im tired of trying.
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Literally tired, sorry, it was half rant.
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Wasn't really a rant. Well the thing with Jess, I don't really care about "punishing" her for bad play, but I'd have preferred to vote her since she's played pretty anti-town and I can't really tell whether she's scum or not. But I'd rather take the chance and lynch someone who I actually think is scummy, especially when people like rEdo who have played with her more actually do think Jess is town.

If someone is just playing bad, I'd rather just not play with them in the future. (though I can't really say I like this WotC thing, I'd prefer to just say who I didn't want to play with upfront)
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A) I am still waiting for b1rd to respond to my post where I called his entire read on me false. Like his read on me was 100% confusion of my posts and if he actually spoke to me I don't think he'd think I am scum.
B) Sakura you literally know exactly why I haven't had time for this thread and you used the same reasoning to spend all of lover's mafia tunneling me. Like literally you spent all of lover's mafia tunneling me because I wasn't getting involved in the thread and in that game I did have time to check the thread. But hey 2nd times the charm right?
C) Hika is prolly just scum with Jess
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beeboy123 wrote:

B) Sakura you literally know exactly why I haven't had time for this thread and you used the same reasoning to spend all of lover's mafia tunneling me. Like literally you spent all of lover's mafia tunneling me because I wasn't getting involved in the thread and in that game I did have time to check the thread. But hey 2nd times the charm right?
I actually didnt remember much about Yuri mafia, unless you're talking about another lovers game then i def. have no idea which game you're talking about.
Sakura
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Also not having time for this thread due to irl stuff is no excuse to do nothing with the time that you DO have.
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Jess is literally going to come into the thread and hammer me btw.
Also rEdo's vote on me is cause I apparently am not scum hunting even though I very much have been ._.

I am tired of defending myself from garbage on this site.

I would say I am a blatant counter wagon to scum and this wagon happened so fast despite Jess doing literally nothing and being pretty scum read that I couldn't possibly flip scum but no one listened to me when I said Dawnsday was town for similar reasons so I guess you guys can have fun continuing ignore me and lose this game.
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Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

B) Sakura you literally know exactly why I haven't had time for this thread and you used the same reasoning to spend all of lover's mafia tunneling me. Like literally you spent all of lover's mafia tunneling me because I wasn't getting involved in the thread and in that game I did have time to check the thread. But hey 2nd times the charm right?
I actually didnt remember much about Yuri mafia, unless you're talking about another lovers game then i def. have no idea which game you're talking about.
Are you trying to tell me you didn't argue I wasn't participating in Yuri mafia?
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beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Also not having time for this thread due to irl stuff is no excuse to do nothing with the time that you DO have.
I mean I don't think I am coming into this thread and doing nothing when I do have the time to post.
Hika
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Hika
im not scum with jess
im down for that too as long as you go down with her leeeemayo
Hika
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Hika
Unvote
Hika
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Hika
I see the pressure getting to ya now :p
Sakura
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Sakura
I mean he just beetlejuiced
And also he just misread my post... but that's normal.
beeboy123
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beeboy123
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8096430
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8096111
beeboy123
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beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

I mean he just beetlejuiced
And also he just misread my post... but that's normal.
I am lurking the thread on my phone while watching anime in my basement and I don't feel like getting mislynched for garbage reasons but pushing people can wait until my friends leave. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123
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beeboy123
Also b1rd still hasn't responded to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also I have a higher post count in my scum game then I do in my town game which is something I pointed out to you when you scum read me in Yuri mafia when you scum read me for not being proactive ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also you still know why I have been lurking this game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sakura
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Sakura
And i never mentioned i didnt do what you said i did in Yuri mafia ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123
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beeboy123
Oh you're right I misread your post.

Then to go back to that post.
Yes I am talking about Yuri mafia the game where you are scum reading me for the same reason you are scum reading me this game.
And literally everything I said to defend myself to defend myself in the game applies to this game and then some because I really haven't had the time to check this game thread.
beeboy123
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beeboy123
But hey I guess you can ignore the fact I post more as scum, I haven't had time to post and you've done this same thing before and come to the conclusion I am scum if that's what you want to do all of these are legit facts.
B1rd
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B1rd

beeboy123 wrote:

A) I am still waiting for b1rd to respond to my post where I called his entire read on me false. Like his read on me was 100% confusion of my posts and if he actually spoke to me I don't think he'd think I am scum.
Pretty sure I did p/5835756 :roll:

beeboy123 wrote:

I am tired of defending myself from garbage on this site.

I would say I am a blatant counter wagon to scum and this wagon happened so fast despite Jess doing literally nothing and being pretty scum read that I couldn't possibly flip scum but no one listened to me when I said Dawnsday was town for similar reasons so I guess you guys can have fun continuing ignore me and lose this game.
I don't think your counter-wagon claim holds much weight when pretty much all the people voting you are strong town reads, at least to me, and who were actually voting Jess before. It's not one else fault that you've been lurking, now you're just complaining and blaming everyone else now that you're under pressure for valid reasons. Sick of defending yourself? You've put like half the effort in defending yourself than some other people have done pursuing one scum read. And even less actually following your own. This reaction pretty much just consolidates my scum read on you.
B1rd
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Also I'm pretty sure with me, Hika and Sakura that's only L-2, of course it would be easier to tell if someone would post vote updates more frequently :roll:
Sakura
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Sakura
Regardless you give my memory too much credit, i was mostly thinking back to the games we played together when i was Luna Fox.
I ALSO mentioned im aware of your irl issues.
But there's still some weird things about your play this game that are giving me weird feelings.
Like what i mentioned before that you surprisingly arrived at the same reads i had when we usually end up arguing about townreads.
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