On redo's defense, his last statement about Jess, that's kinda how we all feel though... whether you're town or not
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I also can't figure much about frosty Sakura, how can you?
Frosty's key events
1) Frostings votes Hika
Frostings x→ Hika
1) Frostings votes Dawnsday
Frosting x→ Dawnsday
3) Frostings reads B1rd as townie
Frosting !→ Roles:Townie = B1rd
4) Frosting’s claims that Frosting’s vote on Dawnsday is reaction testing
Frostings !→ (Frosting x→ Dawnsday = (Dawnsday ?→ Players:any)))
What am I missing?
Frosty's key events
1) Frostings votes Hika
Frostings x→ Hika
1) Frostings votes Dawnsday
Frosting x→ Dawnsday
3) Frostings reads B1rd as townie
Frosting !→ Roles:Townie = B1rd
4) Frosting’s claims that Frosting’s vote on Dawnsday is reaction testing
Frostings !→ (Frosting x→ Dawnsday = (Dawnsday ?→ Players:any)))
What am I missing?
Looking over Frosting's posts and there is his stance about Hika
Frostings wrote:
Hika is suspicious if Dawnsday flips town, because I've seen her pull L-1 at the first opportunity multiple times as scum
So it was all a misunderstanding then. That's why i asked again.
Vote: Jess
Vote: Jess
I'm still confused as hell about rEdo's out of the gate claim tho.
Apparently i missed some questions.
Most of the way i read Frosty's due to a lot of experience with him.
Most of the way i read Frosty's due to a lot of experience with him.
actually frosty hates me :^)
Sakura, it has come to my attention that you currently hold much of the opinion sway at the current moment. You know how other players react while players like me need to go by raw data, putting most newer players at a disadvantage. A scary disadvantage in the worst case or a really good advantage in the best case scenario.
I have reason to believe your past mentioning of past experiences with players might be telling half truths. I expect you to defend your claims by explaining why I should believe someone who might be mafia.
I have reason to believe your past mentioning of past experiences with players might be telling half truths. I expect you to defend your claims by explaining why I should believe someone who might be mafia.
I want Jess to answer this.beeboy123 wrote:
what do you mean by this Jess o3o-[Jess]- wrote:
Now I know why draw is scum
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Also rEdo is conf town then.
That disadvantage will always be a thing. although in MS newbie games actually have way more newer players than in the case here.
But meta works as a disadvantage to me as well since people do think i have a good pokerface so i wouldnt blame someone getting paranoid about me (I mean that is half the reason i made an MS alt to begin with).
I suppose it's hard for a mechanical player like you to understand, but the way i get reads mostly come from gut feels which i no doubt usually get asked about and that's when i have a hard time putting those into words or evidence.
But meta works as a disadvantage to me as well since people do think i have a good pokerface so i wouldnt blame someone getting paranoid about me (I mean that is half the reason i made an MS alt to begin with).
I suppose it's hard for a mechanical player like you to understand, but the way i get reads mostly come from gut feels which i no doubt usually get asked about and that's when i have a hard time putting those into words or evidence.
B1rd you need to post more
B1rd wrote:
I'd rather lynch deadweight on policy before going after scumreads.
vote: Frosting
Justify your erratic behavior. First vote and then you voted Dawnsday the second everybody start bad mouthing him. Also your explanation are too simply to hold any water.
Justify your erratic behavior. First vote and then you voted Dawnsday the second everybody start bad mouthing him. Also your explanation are too simply to hold any water.
What was this answer to (might have missed something, but)? Were you just throwing this out to look innocent?Frosting wrote:
I voted Dawnsday because his posts up to my vote on him were all commentary with little analysis and initiative to find scum
also he keep using the "new to the game" card but I don't believe him
While I won't let my guard down of Jesse, a Sakura and Frosting duo might be a possibility worth looking intoFrosting wrote:
I like Sakura so far
From my experience scum doesn't play that simplyI think we have a hammer on the nail here. This guy just described EXACTLY what he was doing.
They don't have as much an incentive to quickly get rid of town than making themselves look innocent. Depends a bit on the scum players of course, but I will give the benefit of the doubt they are experienced
It's more likely wagons form with town players voting scummy players.
At the point in time writing this, he didn't know that my vote for Dawnsday was a null vote based on nothing. So him being second to vote was a safe vote. However my vote removed, he is the first actual vote. The wagon with town player followed. While he tries to make himself look innocent.
That comment answering idk what, and him being the first to jump on the bandwagon when everybody was starting to suspect Dawnsday. Is all of this coincidence?
Yes, Frostings, scum players ARE experienced, but it does help to keep operations a bit of a secret.
And you thought nobody will think of a scum player describing him self. I laugh.
boy will I dig myself into an early grave if I'm wrong
Either Hika or rEdo. 50/50. Waiting for rEdo's responcebeeboy123 wrote:
Who do you think is town Abraker?
Maybe i should do 2of4 again at some point.
People seem very confused by this setup ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
People seem very confused by this setup ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jess isn't scum though. She just plays like that all the time @abraker
>All the time
I am well aware of that being Jess, but it's not like i can ignore it when she does scummy things like D1's QH.
Besides implying she does that all the time means she does it as either alignment, and that's what you're telling him.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You do realize that VT doesnt counterclaim a thing? or are you still insisting you're a VT coutnerclaiming rEdo
I am well aware of that being Jess, but it's not like i can ignore it when she does scummy things like D1's QH.
Besides implying she does that all the time means she does it as either alignment, and that's what you're telling him.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You do realize that VT doesnt counterclaim a thing? or are you still insisting you're a VT coutnerclaiming rEdo
literally said I don't care
I'm VT
believe it or not, if you're surprised I'm sorry
wasting an investigative check on me is pointless, and to a doctor, it's pointless to protect me
I don't do anything but vote. If me not being VT doesn't help then sorry but I literally claimed my role D1, all before this soooo
I'm VT
believe it or not, if you're surprised I'm sorry
wasting an investigative check on me is pointless, and to a doctor, it's pointless to protect me
I don't do anything but vote. If me not being VT doesn't help then sorry but I literally claimed my role D1, all before this soooo
If it CCs him. Okay. If it doesn't and it's irrelevant. Okay. I just wanted everyone to know my role.
Hika why are you so concerned about being investigated >.>
As a doctor not wanting to be framed for being tracked while blocking a kill is fine.
But as a VT it's just kinda weird.
But as a VT it's just kinda weird.
In terms of using it for better things for town is what my intention is
Besides, didn't I just say that's what I claimed D1... it doesn't matter anymore
You know, the more you tell someone to do something, the more they have the urge to do it. I think telling not to bother investigating you will just make it more tempting.
*not to do something
me proof read pls
me proof read pls
I tried to look into this, but it says I need to make an account. And when I tried to make an account, it says I have a 'malicious IP', probably because I have my VPN on, and that my account will need to be activated by an administrator. So do you mind giving a couple examples of you playing how you said you did? Not that I don't believe you would straight up lie, but it doesn't hurt to double check.Sakura wrote:
I don't know if you want my MS Alt meta or what, but sure i can provide that, im just not sure if you're interested on meta diving that or not:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/memberlist.p ... le&u=26607
I'm pretty sure he played his first game on Tuuba with me, it was the first and only game I've lost thus far (I died early, abraker was scum) I've played 4 games and I'm pretty sure he's played less than me, unless he's rusing us all and lying about not knowing mafia terminology. But even if he hasn't played many games he's still someone to watch out for IMO. I definitely don't want to lose to him again.Sakura wrote:
@B1rd: how experienced is abraker at mafia (the general game, not the alignment)?
I need to sleep as well, it's been 5 hours hold your horses. I do think what I'm said is generally what I'm thinking at the moment, I like to vote bad/scummy/inactive players on policy, because they're pretty much always bad for town, a big liability at lylo, at there's always a chance they're scum. Whereas, with traditional scum is very indefinite and there's always chances that you will lynch completely innocent people.abraker wrote:
B1rd you need to post moreB1rd wrote:
I'd rather lynch deadweight on policy before going after scumreads.
So I'm thinking I will vote Jess, but I'll refrain for the time being because I'm still reading the chat and trying to figure out when rEdo would claim. I had a good townread on rEdo previously, for examples p/5813962 comes across as a strong town post (even if Dawnsday was actually town), however I don't understand why he would claim bulletproof if he was town. He also has been posting very infrequently recently, which isn't a good sign.
*while traditional scumhunting
Ehehehe, that backfired on Dragon Age Mafia back on MS (A player wanted me to not cop scan him, so i cop scanned him, and i got redirected to scum, and... well the rest you can imagine)abraker wrote:
You know, the more you tell someone to do something, the more they have the urge to do it. I think telling not to bother investigating you will just make it more tempting.
Ah probably because i linked directly to my user profile, ill give you some game examples in a bit, im busy watching a series that ends in 30 minsB1rd wrote:
I tried to look into this, but it says I need to make an account. And when I tried to make an account, it says I have a 'malicious IP', probably because I have my VPN on, and that my account will need to be activated by an administrator. So do you mind giving a couple examples of you playing how you said you did? Not that I don't believe you would straight up lie, but it doesn't hurt to double check.Sakura wrote:
I don't know if you want my MS Alt meta or what, but sure i can provide that, im just not sure if you're interested on meta diving that or not:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/memberlist.p ... le&u=26607
Well then waste your night abilities then :pSakura wrote:
Ehehehe, that backfired on Dragon Age Mafia back on MS (A player wanted me to not cop scan him, so i cop scanned him, and i got redirected to scum, and... well the rest you can imagine)abraker wrote:
You know, the more you tell someone to do something, the more they have the urge to do it. I think telling not to bother investigating you will just make it more tempting.
I personally would want them to use it on someone else that isn't me.
Actually does this link work for you: http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... &sr=topics or does it still ask for an account.
Also abraker I haven't forgotten about you, I'm too busy playing LoL with RB :p
@Sakura. No permissions.
I swear. I have been playing mafia for almost 7 years and this game is by far the most complicating in terms of everyone playing off meta.
Ok well first of all the alt name's "Luna Fox"
Games
These are the most relevant games i can remember:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=67451 (Replaced out somewhere due to mod making a derp mod error that made me realize who the last scum was)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67645
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67071 (Replaced in midway through D2 iirc)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=67535
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67413 (Ahahaha if you can read this one props to you, it's very long)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67479
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=63354 (Replaced out at some point mid D1)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=67747 (SK play)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=63492 (Mafia play)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=67451 (Replaced out somewhere due to mod making a derp mod error that made me realize who the last scum was)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67645
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67071 (Replaced in midway through D2 iirc)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=67535
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67413 (Ahahaha if you can read this one props to you, it's very long)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67479
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=63354 (Replaced out at some point mid D1)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=67747 (SK play)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=63492 (Mafia play)
inb4 those links dont work either
maybe you should stop claiming cop in PTs ^^;;Sakura wrote:
Ehehehe, that backfired on Dragon Age Mafia back on MS (A player wanted me to not cop scan him, so i cop scanned him, and i got redirected to scum, and... well the rest you can imagine)abraker wrote:
You know, the more you tell someone to do something, the more they have the urge to do it. I think telling not to bother investigating you will just make it more tempting.
Wait, am I reading this right, and hika CC'd (counter claimed) rEdo's 1-shot bulletproof claim? Well, I guess the lynch is pretty much decided for today then. One thing I would like to point out though, that if rEdo exposed himself to draw out a CC, I'm pretty sure that he would be confident that his scum partner can't be traced back to him. Considering he actually threw some suspicion at abraker straight afterwards, it's some sort of WIFOM situation, but perhaps it is abraker who is his scum partner. Also, I'm pretty sure mafia wouldn't carry out this tactic unless they thought that their other member was in a pretty safe position right now.
No B1rd it was setup shenanigans that made Hika think that VT counter claimed 1-shot BP.
Despite how much i tried to explain to make 100% sure it was the case.
Despite how much i tried to explain to make 100% sure it was the case.
130 pages... sigh. I'll have a look.Sakura wrote:
Ok well first of all the alt name's "Luna Fox"GamesThese are the most relevant games i can remember:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=67451 (Replaced out somewhere due to mod making a derp mod error that made me realize who the last scum was)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67645
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67071 (Replaced in midway through D2 iirc)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=67535
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67413 (Ahahaha if you can read this one props to you, it's very long)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67479
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=63354 (Replaced out at some point mid D1)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=67747 (SK play)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=63492 (Mafia play)
One thing I'm liking about this mafiascum site though is you can choose your pronouns, lmao. I swear, If I ever go onto that site I'm gonna rp as a hardcore Tumblrite.
It also has convenient ISO buttons
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Just doing that bc I don't want the lynch
So long as I wake up to proof, you are in the clearHika wrote:
Also abraker I haven't forgotten about you, I'm too busy playing LoL with RB :p
wow I go play osu! for a second and 2 pages appeared from nowhere
I can link you this one just so you can see a bit of my scum meta.abraker wrote:
So long as I wake up to proof, you are in the clearHika wrote:
Also abraker I haven't forgotten about you, I'm too busy playing LoL with RB :p
wow I go play osu! for a second and 2 pages appeared from nowhere
Although, I probably play the same no matter my alignment, I thought it was fair I show you a good example of my scumplay.
t/393585&start=0 <- Cracking Idea Mafia, I came in as replacement for pie immediately.
If I get time I'll read through some more games and pick some out for you.
Do you want examples of my scum games or the best games I've played on this site?
Give examples you as scum that joined bandwagonsHika wrote:
Do you want examples of my scum games or the best games I've played on this site?
Sorry, I am usually town on this site. The old site I used to play on is shut down now too.
t/365901&start=0 < Lovers Mafia. Notice day one I hammered and didn't even notice. Could've ended badly. Feel free to skim my ISO.
t/365901&start=0 < Lovers Mafia. Notice day one I hammered and didn't even notice. Could've ended badly. Feel free to skim my ISO.
Also I am going to bed now, 1:49 EST. I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow so ask me anything and I will try to respond immediately
I'm in the middle of catching up and, um...
Did Hika just seriously counter claim bulletproof?
Vote: Hika
I don't even care if I get lynched today, I just confirmed 1 scum. Nice.
Catching up even more, this is gonna be interesting.
Did Hika just seriously counter claim bulletproof?
Vote: Hika
I don't even care if I get lynched today, I just confirmed 1 scum. Nice.
Catching up even more, this is gonna be interesting.
Okay.
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My BP claim was pretty much done in a hurry and - to be honest - just a try to accelerate the game and generate discussion, because I hate it when almost nothing happens. And hell, it worked.
So it was all a misunderstanding coming from Hika. Okay, but still. Why nobody noticed that she tried to counter claim me as just a vanilla townie? Did everyone really miss the fact that four other people could do that CC?
We should start thinking who could want me dead. I believe that set of people on the scumteam is a subset of people that had a public townread on me.
Beeboy, explain why do you think I'm conftown. Tell me who's scum.
Frostings as well.
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My BP claim was pretty much done in a hurry and - to be honest - just a try to accelerate the game and generate discussion, because I hate it when almost nothing happens. And hell, it worked.
So it was all a misunderstanding coming from Hika. Okay, but still. Why nobody noticed that she tried to counter claim me as just a vanilla townie? Did everyone really miss the fact that four other people could do that CC?
We should start thinking who could want me dead. I believe that set of people on the scumteam is a subset of people that had a public townread on me.
Beeboy, explain why do you think I'm conftown. Tell me who's scum.
Frostings as well.
The claim was also a huge ass flaw in my logic: yesterday evening I thought that town should know there's no doctor role in the game since I got hit. But then I forgot scum could hit a person protected by a doctor... Then I could claim the moment I potentially got pinned for a lynch. Fuck me. >_>
I do not accept the "you claimed bulletproof" answer.rEdo wrote:
Beeboy, explain why do you think I'm conftown. Tell me who's scum.
Frostings as well.
morning
wow rEdo mistakes were made. feel sorry if your town. I forgot about doctor role too
Alright... but I think I might have to go over this a bit more. Not sure exactly by what logic VT can counter-claim a PR. Also, your meta game seems consistent from what I checked.Sakura wrote:
No B1rd it was setup shenanigans that made Hika think that VT counter claimed 1-shot BP.
Despite how much i tried to explain to make 100% sure it was the case.
Now as for rEdo claiming bulletproof: it was a stupid move for sure, but I don't actually think it makes him scum. Because of the fact that scum have no way of knowing whether there was no kill because of BP or doctor, I don't know why they would take such drastic measure and sacrifice a player to kill a PR when there is a 50% chance that it is a 1-shot bullet proof townie, who is now equivalent to a vanilla townie now that they've been hit once. That doesn't make sense to me so I'm gonna go on my previous assumption that rEdo is indeed town.
Also I'm not too sure why scum would specifically target people they've townread, maybe it's a meta that I'm unaware of. But I think I've pretty much fully explained the reasons I think rEdo is town.
On to scumreads/FoS:
Firstly, I think beeboy is suspicious. The first reason maybe isn't objective but it's been a personal tell of mine that have achieved results in the past: everyone usually jokes at the start, but when someone continues a jokes past its worth, or continues to act not serious, that is an indicator that that person is scum. And that's what he did with the whole 'I'm mason' thing. The other reason is that he pretty much was a fence sitter the whole first day, and the second day he hasn't done much except jump on bandwagons of already suspicious people. This seems like typical scummy behaviour.
The other person is Frosty, and I agree with abraker on his point. I also inquired about it on d1, but now that I look back at it, it still looks suspicous: frosty seemed intent on lynching Hika for no reason. And then he shifted his vote to the pseudo-Dawnsday bandwagon for no apparent reason either. He said that it was to 'highlight Dawn's behaviour', however in my opinion, Dawnsday was showing no signs of being scum at that point, he only seemed to crack later on when he was under a lot of artificial pressure. That's why I'm more suspicious of people who joined the wagon sooner rather than later.
So about this day 1 bandwagon analysis, it would seem typical if there was one scum on it, and one scum off of it, since IMO beeboy was a fence sitter for no good reason, and frosting inserted himself for no good reason, I think that the scum team is most likely beeboy + frostings. However...
Then there's the issue of jess. Hammering Dawnsday was obviously a stupid move, on top on that she hasn't been active. And from my previous game, it seems she's always like this, basically a village idiot. And I really can't read her at all (somewhat because she hardly ever posts) so for me that is grounds for a policy lynch. With everyone else, I can read to some degree. So, I'm not gonna lose that game because I took the chance and assumed she was town when I have no good way of knowing.
vote: -[Jess]-
And finally, my other reads:
Town:
Sakura, Seemingly typical town play, her meta checks out, all her posts pretty much give me the impression that she's town
rEdo, for reasons explained
Neutral:
abraker: his play so far doesn't seem atypical, though I am a bit suspicious that he didn't realise the possibility of a doctor when usually he seems to be very focused on facts
Hika: I don't know her meta, but basically going off gut feel she seems to be town and acting normal. And hasn't been particularly scummy up to this point, I would put her in townread but I'm still trying to get my head around this whole CC situation
suspicious:
beeboy, frosting, jess, for reasons already explained
Welp, that's a post and a half, lol.
VT doesn't CC his role if I'm just one of the fill up roles.
So that's what I said when I said "I honestly don't care", because at that point, it's only valid the way Sakura said it, so rEdo and I are both town.
So that's what I said when I said "I honestly don't care", because at that point, it's only valid the way Sakura said it, so rEdo and I are both town.
So even if I did end up getting lynched, rEdo would still end up being town, even though I'LL flip town.
Also, yes, it was a mistake. I actually was very confused yesterday when being explained too so my apologies. I barely slept and reread everything last night.
Mind that I wasn't comprehending possible roles at that point until Sakura explained how the chart works. So I couldn't fact thatB1rd wrote:
abraker: his play so far doesn't seem atypical, though I am a bit suspicious that he didn't realise the possibility of a doctor when usually he seems to be very focused on facts
At that point I thought it was all roles on the chart with one mafia role removed and a townie role added so you can have the 2:7 setup. I wasnt even aware most townies were regular townies.
My reads thus far. Me and rEdo conf town.
Bird still looking townie to me.
Rest is null for now.
Bird still looking townie to me.
Rest is null for now.
Yeah, I have to say I'm pretty conftown as well 
don't get ahead of yourself Australian :p
I am here,
So,first I have to said I make a wrong choice on Day 1 by lynching dawn.This is the most silliest mistake I made.I want to explain who dawn is a town tho,but at that moment,If I explain why,scum will have the Chance to frame me and dawn were scum and people mislynch town.I know I am acting like a village idiot and saying words that not useful for scumhurting.But what is the point of getting someone PLed.It is not help for town to solve the scumhurting.
So looking to Day 2
Finding the setup which we play now by lynching dawn and night result,that is good to hear that town is on track to finding scum.Two people claimed 1-shot BP and VT.that make me suspicious of why she claim VT and Why she want everyone to know she was town.Also frosty,who have not post in a day,still make me think is him is a scum.
About "now I see why dawn is scum"
It means nothing that he trust a people who only said and read it as town,I don't know how to said and my mind is unclear.I thought he was in L-2 so I voted to push him.
That all
So,first I have to said I make a wrong choice on Day 1 by lynching dawn.This is the most silliest mistake I made.I want to explain who dawn is a town tho,but at that moment,If I explain why,scum will have the Chance to frame me and dawn were scum and people mislynch town.I know I am acting like a village idiot and saying words that not useful for scumhurting.But what is the point of getting someone PLed.It is not help for town to solve the scumhurting.
So looking to Day 2
Finding the setup which we play now by lynching dawn and night result,that is good to hear that town is on track to finding scum.Two people claimed 1-shot BP and VT.that make me suspicious of why she claim VT and Why she want everyone to know she was town.Also frosty,who have not post in a day,still make me think is him is a scum.
About "now I see why dawn is scum"
It means nothing that he trust a people who only said and read it as town,I don't know how to said and my mind is unclear.I thought he was in L-2 so I voted to push him.
That all
My brain is melting-[Jess]- wrote:
I am here,
So,first I have to said I make a wrong choice on Day 1 by lynching dawn.This is the most silliest mistake I made.I want to explain who dawn is a town tho,but at that moment,If I explain why,scum will have the Chance to frame me and dawn were scum and people mislynch town.I know I am acting like a village idiot and saying words that not useful for scumhurting.But what is the point of getting someone PLed.It is not help for town to solve the scumhurting.
So looking to Day 2
Finding the setup which we play now by lynching dawn and night result,that is good to hear that town is on track to finding scum.Two people claimed 1-shot BP and VT.that make me suspicious of why she claim VT and Why she want everyone to know she was town.Also frosty,who have not post in a day,still make me think is him is a scum.
About "now I see why dawn is scum"
It means nothing that he trust a people who only said and read it as town,I don't know how to said and my mind is unclear.I thought he was in L-2 so I voted to push him.
That all
please Lynch me to stop this agony
Because you very well could be scum hiding behind a scummy action and using "I'm just getting PL'd" as your shield, simple.-[Jess]- wrote:
But what is the point of getting someone PLed.It is not help for town to solve the scumhurting.
Jess you literally summarized D2 thus far and didn't even do it properly.
Why wouldnt I want people to think I'm town?!!!!
Isn't that the point of mafia? For us to find the scum and to prove everyone's innocence?!
Why wouldnt I want people to think I'm town?!!!!
Isn't that the point of mafia? For us to find the scum and to prove everyone's innocence?!
That was her strategy all along, to win as everyone else lynches themselves from the exasperation of trying to figure out her posts.abraker wrote:
My brain is melting
please Lynch me to stop this agony
I feel like I've done enough thinking for tonight, I hope by
If there is a need for a policy lynch, it needs to happen now.
Vote: -[Jess]-
Vote: -[Jess]-
Actually, no. I have a gut feeling that Jess is town.
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We need to hear from Frostings and beeboy before anything happens today.
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Votecount 2.2
-[Jess]- [2] - Sakura, B1rd
Frostings [1] - abraker
rEdo [0] -
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
B1rd [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [5] - -[Jess]-, Frostings , rEdo, beeboy123, Hika
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
-[Jess]- [2] - Sakura, B1rd
Frostings [1] - abraker
rEdo [0] -
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
B1rd [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [5] - -[Jess]-, Frostings , rEdo, beeboy123, Hika
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
After seeing how stupid Dawnsnday was, it's a possibility. Frosting also acts notoriously stupid, but his posts give me at least 3 red flags.rEdo wrote:
Actually, no. I have a gut feeling that Jess is town.
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Is Jesse a newbie at this game?
Technically she has enough games to not be a newbie.abraker wrote:
Is Jesse a newbie at this game?
She... always... plays.... like.... that....
Oh also
@Mod: Imma be V/LA starting tomorrow until Monday.
@Mod: Imma be V/LA starting tomorrow until Monday.
Give link to a game she was townieSakura wrote:
Technically she has enough games to not be a newbie.abraker wrote:
Is Jesse a newbie at this game?
She... always... plays.... like.... that....
actually uhhh i'll read everything by tomorrow or later today
What can you say about Jesse's vote pattern from the games she was scum? Is there any correlation despite the vote being influenced by other members of mafia?Sakura wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/490095
t/492163
t/350620 <- Replaced in midgame.
t/475418
t/453270
(actually I think Jesse would have no influence due to speech/inactivity constraints, but in a slim chance there is something...)
I can't exactly, but i cant just write off scummy things she does just coz she can use it as a way to hide when she's scum.
Don't excuse anything she does...
Everyone has an equal chance of reading the thread and being attentive to a game.
If she chooses not to do that, there are consequences
If she chooses not to do that, there are consequences
Mafia games should allow the vote to replace players
I guess my wall of text killed the game 
I don't know why anything needs to happen instantly, I'm still waiting on replies from other people. I'm glad jess replied, but I'm still not sure to make of her post. Ultimately the call is up to the people who have more experience playing with her; you can go off your hunches, but I'm not gonna take responsibility if we lose because it turns out she's mafia after all. I'd rather lynch her.rEdo wrote:
If there is a need for a policy lynch, it needs to happen now.
Actually, no. I have a gut feeling that Jess is town.
Also, I'd definitely like to wait till Sakura is back before we lynch anyone.
The hell is bboy.
Hika wrote:
The hell is bboy.
@mod, give beeboy a prod
That a good point btw,but am I that dumb to use the "PL'ed" shied to hiding my scummove?Sakura wrote:
Because you very well could be scum hiding behind a scummy action and using "I'm just getting PL'd" as your shield, simple.-[Jess]- wrote:
But what is the point of getting someone PLed.It is not help for town to solve the scumhurting.
Also where are frosty and beeboy
@mod I can VLA until Monday or replace out. I _may_ be able to check the thread but idk.
Hello 
I don't know if I'm reading this correctly, but it seems like abraker and B1rd are suspicious of me because they think I have some secret motive or psychology with my votes and reads, but I can't even understand your explanations for my actions let alone come up with them
Hika reminds me of Irre in I think the Tree house game where he acted like he had no idea what was going on. I don't really believe her when she says the setup is confusing, and since Dawn flipped town I think she's still pretty suspicious. The VT claim doesn't help at all.. It looks like she's trying to rack up town points by claiming early, when we already know everybody who's town is VT after rEdo's claim
Jess.. uhhh in the back of my mind I had a feeling she would lynch early. I should have unvoted to get a claim at least but she hammered earlier than I expected. Her action isn't really a tell, but I would be content with a PL to save us headache later
As for the others, I'll have to read the posts again, I just had a quick skim over all the posts
I don't know if I'm reading this correctly, but it seems like abraker and B1rd are suspicious of me because they think I have some secret motive or psychology with my votes and reads, but I can't even understand your explanations for my actions let alone come up with them
Hika reminds me of Irre in I think the Tree house game where he acted like he had no idea what was going on. I don't really believe her when she says the setup is confusing, and since Dawn flipped town I think she's still pretty suspicious. The VT claim doesn't help at all.. It looks like she's trying to rack up town points by claiming early, when we already know everybody who's town is VT after rEdo's claim
Jess.. uhhh in the back of my mind I had a feeling she would lynch early. I should have unvoted to get a claim at least but she hammered earlier than I expected. Her action isn't really a tell, but I would be content with a PL to save us headache later
As for the others, I'll have to read the posts again, I just had a quick skim over all the posts
I'll say I'm pretty confident Hika knows full well what's going on and is trying to be manipulative
She'll just try to dismiss my suspicions by saying I do this every game (which... admittedly might actually be true) but nonetheless I still feel this way
She'll just try to dismiss my suspicions by saying I do this every game (which... admittedly might actually be true) but nonetheless I still feel this way
Side note: I'm amused by this post. I actually probably will fall for any sort of traps you set for meabraker wrote:
Frostings is a compulsive doo-hikey. Sporadically votes based on latest developments. Aka doesnt have an opinion. Playing mind tricks on him might suffice.
Of course we're looking for secret psychology and motives that scum would have. The reason why I've been suspecting you is that I can find very little good rationality behind your posts and actions, and so far your replies haven't done anything to allay my suspicions. You've just brushed off everything said against you with "I don't understand" + smiley face, and then tried to shift the focus by attacking Hika.
it sounds scummy to me now
and my FoS is frostings now bc of his last post.
not gonna workkkk
and my FoS is frostings now bc of his last post.
not gonna workkkk