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Hika

Frostings wrote:

I would also like more pressure on Hika :oops:
more pressure on me for what,

I'm just trying to figure out why you're trying to get rid of me so much hmmm
Hika
btw, bboy are you a mason or not?
bc your post is confusing to me actually.

dawnsday either rolled with it bc he's town and clueless or
dawnsday rolled with it bc he's scum and knows what he's doin
Dawns
gosh it's so obvious i rolled with it because it was fun and games, masons arent ever in newb games
Sakura

rEdo wrote:

I find it really disturbing that Sakura had not responded to me voting B1rd out of nowhere.

beeboy is town.
By the time you made your vote B1rd had made p/5811103
Considering there's not much else to go on I figured you had found something in there, i'm not interested in why you're scumreading him right now, as i don't have a townread there.

Hika wrote:

-Snip-

dawnsday either rolled with it bc he's town and clueless or
dawnsday rolled with it bc he's scum and knows what he's doin
So in other words, you don't know.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hika
yes mommy
i'm waiting for a slip
-[Jess]-
Wow this rather get in quick.
Everyone is null now except beeboy
-[Jess]-
I have not sure he was trolling or the mod troll us
-[Jess]-
This setup has not Mason,or has
Dawns
beeboy is my safest townread the rest of you are all null as far as I am concerned
Hika
Why's he your townread again??
if you posted it, I'm sorry, just repost it here until we get some ISOs.
beeboy123
Nah this setup has no masons in it.
Dawns
Alright let me post cause I sorta ommited it,

Beeboy protected me in the face of Sakura calling my going along with the Mason thing sus, this is would be an incredibly weird move for maf as the early confusion makes a nice snowballing target for accusations, instead he opted to bring up meta about the facts from his previous mason falseclaims and made my own arguments for me which is obviously anti beneficial since the confusion which could lead to a mislynch (since this is my first recorded game on the osuforums), it'd simply be easier for him to leave it to me and hope I make a flawed newby argument and get myself voted up a bunch.
Sakura
I love how people completely glossed over me saying Dawn is town then saying that him going along with the claim would be more concerning, I would have expected a few "Objection!"s and votes by now.
Sakura
That being said, Hika wtf? are you planning on just staying around doing nothing waiting for "a slip"?
Sakura
Oh btw rEdo's also town.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

@beeboy: I'll come back to your question later.
I'd like a follow up on your reads pls.
Frosting in particular I don't really understand.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

@beeboy: I'll come back to your question later.
I'd like a follow up on your reads pls.
Frosting in particular I don't really understand.
Nah Frosty's really easy, he's being the same town frosty i've always known pushing stubborngly a scumread to oblivion, iirc scum Frosty lacks ability to do things and lurks a lot.
Sakura
My 3 straight up townreads in general were pretty much rxn testing but most people ignored it, and i already solidified a townread on you due to something else so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123
I don't feel like frostings is actually pushing someone or reaction testing.
Unless he really does think Hika scum slipped in the pregame in which case I need to rethink my read.
beeboy123
Well he is reaction testing.
Hika

beeboy123 wrote:

I don't feel like frostings is actually pushing someone or reaction testing.
Unless he really does think Hika scum slipped in the pregame in which case I need to rethink my read.
how did i slip
i said oh fuck lol

im not gonna type /confirm bc im a fucking special snowflake

anyways, why would i sit here and not say anything @sakura. i'm clearly going to express my reads when i do see something out of the ordinary, and i do think the fact that you think I'm literally going to 'wait for a slip' is totally weird
Hika
also it's too ez for you to be townreading more than one person this early @Sakura.
aint no one gonna react to that if they've played with ya :p
Sakura

Hika wrote:

anyways, why would i sit here and not say anything @sakura. i'm clearly going to express my reads when i do see something out of the ordinary, and i do think the fact that you think I'm literally going to 'wait for a slip' is totally weird

Hika wrote:

yes mommy
i'm waiting for a slip
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hika
tbh I think bird is town though.
Hika
@Sakura, ISSA JOKE DID U GET THE JOKE
Sakura
Dunno, ppl tend to say i give out townreads too easily when i give someone a townread on page 1.
Hika
oh btw, I forgot to say, I DO think that bird is town but I dont agree with his vote on bboy
Sakura
If it wasn't obvious over all my 1000000000^E=mc2 games im pretty bad at picking up jokes in mafia games.
Sakura
I'm prolly as bas as picking up jokes as bee is at reading posts

Sakura wrote:

My 3 straight up townreads in general were pretty much rxn testing but most people ignored it, and i already solidified a townread on you due to something else so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

beeboy123 wrote:

I don't feel like frostings is actually pushing someone or reaction testing.
Unless he really does think Hika scum slipped in the pregame in which case I need to rethink my read.
Hika
Oh I'm sorry, I'll stop making jokes for town's sake
Hika
But yes, speaking in a serious sense, if I see something, I will be glad to say something. After all, the only thing I can do is input my vote \:D/
Sakura
At least i dont impulsively vote everything that appears slightly scummy nowadays.
Frostings
Y'all need help
Frostings
Vote: Dawnsday
B1rd is town
Dawns
interesting vote choice
Topic Starter
Zexion
Alcohol is too strong. The mod apologizes for the lack of votecounts but he was drunk last night.

Votecount 1.1
Hika [2] - Dawnsday, beeboy123
Dawnsday [2] - abrake, Frostings
B1rd [1] - rEdo
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [4] - Hika, Sakura, -[Jess]-, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.


Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
Deadline for Day 1 is Sunday, February 19th, 10:30 UTC.
Everyone has confirmed, hooray!
ISOS will be up soon™.
Frostings

Dawnsday wrote:

interesting vote choice
Give me more commentary :D
rEdo
abraker is a lurker so far. Null.

Jess is being Jess alias that "I give no input"-guy. I usually read that as scum but goddammit you know what's the problem.

Frosty and bee are these two town guys that generate discussion.

Hika being pretty much herself, null so far.

I'm not sure if it's the fact that I haven't played with Sakura in a while that makes me think she's not playing her usual town game, but I'll give myself some time to think about that.

My vote on B1rd was a reaction test, but only Sakura took it seriously. B1rd himself is not null anymore, it's either town or scum (NO SHIT MAN), as literally everybody ate the joke about bee and Dawnsday being masons and that guy just went like "fuck you all" and voted beeboy. Either a RT or an half-assed try to bandwagon.

Unvote

Not sure what to think about Dawnsday yet. Frostings, gimme an explanation why do you read B1rd as town, and why did you vote my boy Dawnsday.
Frostings
Wait there's someone named abraker in our game?
?___?
rEdo
he's on the player list, i hope it's not the only place he's going to be on.
rEdo

rEdo wrote:

he's on the player list, i hope it's not the only place he's going to be on.
by that i mean i wish he's not gonna be partying at the lurkfest
Dawns
what is there to say, your vote came off of a random guess, I have no reason to feel pressured at all. Mind giving me your reasoning behind the vote (if any?)
Topic Starter
Zexion
ISO's are up on the first post!
rEdo

Dawnsday wrote:

what is there to say, your vote came off of a random guess, I have no reason to feel pressured at all. Mind giving me your reasoning behind the vote (if any?)
Sweet.

Vote: Dawnsday
Frostings
It's too early to explain, you'll just change your gameplay and people will forget about it
I'm putting the spotlight on you so others may also notice what's up ;)
Dawns

Frostings wrote:

It's too early to explain, you'll just change your gameplay and people will forget about it
I'm putting the spotlight on you so others may also notice what's up ;)
To be clear, you have no explanation and are simply looking to draw out a read? Intriguing.
Hika
I mean it was obvious...
Sakura
I dont think it's an issue, pie does that exact same thing when she scumreads someone.
Sakura
I mean if it supposedly adds no pressure to you why are you getting agitated.
Why did you even have to comment on it:

Dawnsday wrote:

what is there to say, your vote came off of a random guess, I have no reason to feel pressured at all. Mind giving me your reasoning behind the vote (if any?)
Dawns
Asking for reasoning. None came up, we're all cool, was very confused as to why I was suddenly being put into such a harsh spotlight. I'm fine with the inquiries tho.
Hika
surprising you'd get on the defensive however
you sheeped the fuck out of my vote
Dawns
Meh it's my first maf game what're ya gonna hold me to, I'm a tad nervy I get that's indicative but this is by no means the be all and end all (as is proven by my Role PM). I sheeped mostly for vote pressure, I'm not gonna bother unvoting (even tho I've considered) till I have someone else in mind, also if I unvoted now it just looks like im panicking to remove heat which just makes my case even worse.
Hika
Ahhh! Vote parking! My favorite thing to see scum do!
Dawns
One liners, as funny or comedic as you may deem them, do not help town.
Sakura

Dawnsday wrote:

Meh it's my first maf game what're ya gonna hold me to, I'm a tad nervy I get that's indicative but this is by no means the be all and end all (as is proven by my Role PM). I sheeped mostly for vote pressure, I'm not gonna bother unvoting (even tho I've considered) till I have someone else in mind, also if I unvoted now it just looks like im panicking to remove heat which just makes my case even worse.
Why do you care so much how people see you?
Dawns
Correct me if I'm wrong but the entire game is based around how people see other people.
Hika

Dawnsday wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong but the entire game is based around how people see other people.
To some extent, yes. However it also depends on how you do it.
Also me and frostings are pretty sarcastic when we play.

Hint: we're probably doing that rn.
Sakura
A town player doesnt care how ppl see them, they only care about finding scum. It's scum who's worried about looking like town.
Hika
Also, I meant that as in "I can't believe you'd park your vote. You waited too long to move your vote off of me so now you're scummy as shit."
Hika
Also now that I think about it, if I am correct, bird and frosty are confirmed town for me.
Dawns
Ah thats my misunderstanding Hika, apologies. I'm sleeping, I've been up a long time and perhaps responding to all of this rn is a bad call.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

A town player doesnt care how ppl see them, they only care about finding scum. It's scum who's worried about looking like town.
Survivalism isn't alignment indicative, town can be survivalistic as well.
beeboy123
reDo, Sakura and B1rd are prolly all town btw.
Topic Starter
Zexion
Votecount 1.2
Dawnsday [3] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo (L-2)
Hika [2] - Dawnsday, beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [4] - Hika, Sakura, -[Jess]-, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.


Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
Deadline for Day 1 is Sunday, February 19th, 10:30 UTC.
Sakura
Where did everyone even go.
Hika
thought it was implied we'd wait for that other guy to come on
+ wait for the people that haven't posted too much to step up n say stuff :^)
Dawns
Morning, slightly drowsy, suspected of being scum AMA.
Dawns
also unvote now.
Dawns
Also since I'm L-2 I'm guessing potentially 1 scum has a vote on me already since I could just be hammered and then have scum either feign ignorance to L-# or just agree with the already stupidly high sus. Woo, go town.
Hika
Actually, funny you mention that but scum isn't stupid enough to quickhammer D1. They'd lose in an instant.
Hika
This is a reference to a time when I quickhammered in a game 4 years ago and Sakura gave me shit for it.
Dawns
Sure, not a quick hammer, but I can certainly see the reasoning for a scum to vote onto me and just go with the current flavor of the day bandwagon. It's not entirely unlikely and seeing as how the bandwagon seems virtually no signs of stopping...
rEdo
I think nobody's gonna say it, so I will.

If you were town, you would at least try to search scum in a more productive way than you just did, that is: "woo I think scum's in the wagon that's voting me". You're incredibly self-centered in a game where you have to communicate with other people in order to find the bad guys, because that's even what your Role PM should be telling you. I gave you more than 12 hours to try thinking how to defend yourself, but you did literally nothing with the fact that you're getting voted, except for a weak try to defend yourself. Yourself.

I must note here that I agree with beeboy saying that the act of self-defense is not alignment-inducing. But the difference is that a town player should be trying to defend himself by searching scum. You do contribute to the game, but in a non-constructive way.

You're scum.
rEdo
@abraker, Jess: step your game up.
Dawns
aight *waves flag* go town.
Dawns
ya live ya learn, guess my args were flimmy and i did get distracted from the actual town agenda. What can ya do. I'll guess I'm being lynched and accept that fact and move on for a better game sometime in the future once I'm more experienced. GGWP. Interesting experience.

Anyway for those still even remotely bothered with my reads:

Still scumread on Hika

null jess abraker cuz posting is so slow.

nulltown b1rd sakura frostings

townread beeboy
Sakura
So you unvoted your scumread?
Hika
Oh wow you dug yourself into a hole dude
Hika
Vote: Dawn
Sakura
You literally went from "im not unvoting hika just coz i dont want to look bad" to "im scumreading hika but im unvoting her"
Sakura
Btw he's at L-1 for anyone that cares.
Hika
Yeah please don't hammer guys. I will vote your ass out if you do.

Soooo not helping your case, dawn
-[Jess]-
Back

rEdo wrote:

@abraker, Jess: step your game up.
Ok
Dawn is null-scum.If he don't defend about his action.
-[Jess]-
@Dawn Any thing you want to say about?
or I will hammer after I wake up
abraker

rEdo wrote:

@abraker, Jess: step your game up.

Dawnsday wrote:

null jess abraker cuz posting is so slow.
you want me to say something specific?

Frostings wrote:

Wait there's someone named abraker in our game?
?___?
Yes, yes there is

rEdo wrote:

abraker is a lurker so far. Null.
There is not much to gather from the first day and everybody else is doing such a great job triggering everybody, I don't even need to do anything.

Instincts tell me to vote Dawn. So I did. And I believe I am correct to do so judging to his response from before. Now I wait till the second day to draw conclusions
Sakura
Please dont edit your posts.
abraker

Sakura wrote:

Please dont edit your posts.
Shit you say that as you ninja me editing my post.
Sakura
Oh no, i read your post and when i came here again it had more text, you can just preview if you need to add new stuff, but if you post you're not allowed to edit it anymore.
abraker

Sakura wrote:

Oh no, i read your post and when i came here again it had more text, you can just preview if you need to add new stuff, but if you post you're not allowed to edit it anymore.
Will keep in mind
Hika
ya take the time to read the rules
you could get MK'd if you don't
Frostings

Dawnsday wrote:

Also since I'm L-2 I'm guessing potentially 1 scum has a vote on me already since I could just be hammered and then have scum either feign ignorance to L-# or just agree with the already stupidly high sus. Woo, go town.
From my experience scum doesn't play that simply
They don't have as much an incentive to quickly get rid of town than making themselves look innocent. Depends a bit on the scum players of course, but I will give the benefit of the doubt they are experienced
It's more likely wagons form with town players voting scummy players.
Topic Starter
Zexion

abraker wrote:

-Edited Post-

Rules wrote:

4.4) Editing your post is grounds for an immediate modkill. Don't do it. PLEASE DON'T DO IT.

First and last warning to everyone: never edit your posts, that's one of the worst things you could do on a mafia game. Next offender will recieve a modkill.


Votecount 1.3
Dawnsday [4] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo, Hika (L-1)
Hika [1] - beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [4] - Dawnsday, Sakura, -[Jess]-, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.


Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
Deadline for Day 1 is Sunday, February 19th, 10:30 UTC.
beeboy123
So Dawn why do you think Hika is scum?
Also why do you want to give up?
beeboy123
Jess don't hammer I want Dawn to roleclaim at the very least.
I also want to know what everyone off the wagon (Hika, Sakura B1rd) to tell me what there thoughts on the wagon are.

Like idk why no one else sees how odd it is that there is literally 0 people against this lynch happening.
Sakura
Hika's not off the wagon :V

Also #NoResistanceToWagon #WagonTooQuick #TotesTown

No really, that's some of the things anti hates, scum does bus you know. IF he's town tho, there's at least 1 scum on his wagon, but i dont see the need for pre-wagon analysis right now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He's not a townread and there's 2 townreads voting him.

Also you're asking him why is Hika scum when you're voting Hika.
beeboy123
I mean can you find me a game where scum was lynched day 1 with literally 0 opposition be my guest but I have personally never seen something like that. I have seen people make that argument before but I have never actually experienced a game where scum was just outright lynched for free.

I asked him about his Hika read because I want to engage with him because I do think there is a really good chance Dawnsday is town.
beeboy123
Also the vote count has an error in it which is why I said that lol.

@mod swap the names of hika and dawnsday please.
Sakura
oh yeah, it has Hika as not voting when Hika's voting Dawnsday.
Topic Starter
Zexion
Previous votecount is fixed.
beeboy123
I was asking a serious question btw about if you have actually ever played or seen a game where scum has been lynched with 0 opposition.
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