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Hey, my name is Max 100bit, and this is my mod!
Well, opinion of modder is opinion of modder.
Do not judge strictly, I could be wrong.
If you change little things from my mod - do not give kudosu. My english is bad, so sorry for googletranslate.

Song and beatmaps

  1. Difficulties end time is not consistent:
    01:29:383 - Easy
    01:29:383 - Normal
    01:29:382 - Hard
    01:29:382 - Insane
    01:29:465 - KukiL's Insane
    01:29:466 - M o c h a's EXTRA!
    01:29:465 - Firebool's Expert
    01:28:807 - iControl's Muzukashii
    01:28:806 - Fraction's Oni
    01:28:806 - Nanners' Inner Oni

Easy

  1. 00:07:707 (2,1) - blanket is a bit off
  2. 00:15:784 (3,4) - ...i hate you
  3. 00:32:927 (1) - hmm, maybe set red sliderpoints like in %pic% for highlighting slidertick?

Normal

  1. 00:07:048 (2) - 00:09:685 (2) - 01:20:894 (2,2) - tbh i don't hear any highbit here so this note isn't necessary
  2. 00:11:169 (6,1) - blanket pls
  3. 00:17:103 (4) - NC
  4. 00:30:125 (5) - 4th sliderpoint should be in x=112 y=300 for better blanket
  5. 00:34:246 (3) - you can rotate this for blanket with 00:35:564 (5)
  6. 00:35:564 (5) - NC
  7. 00:36:224 (6,7) - blanket
  8. 00:38:202 (1) - move 2nd sliderpoint a bit up (like in %pic% for smoother slider
  9. 00:45:454 (6,1) - blanket again lul
  10. 01:05:894 (7,8) - ...i hate you[x2]

Hard

  1. 00:05:070 (5,6) - 00:07:542 (4,5) - blanket
  2. 00:05:894 (7,1) - stack can be improved
  3. 00:18:092 (4,5) - 01:13:476 (4,5) - ...i hate you[x3]
  4. 00:47:927 (2,3) - maybe stack it too?

Insane

  1. classic insane yay
  2. 00:01:938 (2) - this red-sliderpoint seems out of place imo
  3. 00:13:147 (4,5) - blanket
  4. 00:22:872 (3,4) - ...i hate you [x4]
  5. 00:24:026 (8,9,10) - blankets again
  6. 00:32:268 (6,7,8,9) - are you serious?
  7. 01:20:399 (1,2) - blanket a bit
  8. 01:23:696 (3,4) - what about jump here?
Good luck!
{end of the mod}
Firebool

Naxess wrote:

From #modreqs

Firebool's Expert


  1. 00:01:279 - The inherited and uninherited timing sections on this tick have different settings.

    Ranking Criteria - Timing wrote:

    No two uninherited or two inherited timing sections should be placed at the same point. An inherited timing section may be placed on an uninherited timing section (but only to change the slider speed). Having two uninherited or two inherited sections on top of each other will cause problems within the beatmap.
    welp this was just fixed it seems, but snappings are still off.

  2. 00:16:280 - 00:31:280 - 01:01:280 - Examples of unsnapped objects. Almost all objects in the map are unsnapped, this is something you should consider fixing. 00:03:587 (8) - is also unsnapped, for instance. It's almost as if the offset was changed.

    Ranking Criteria - Timing wrote:

    Your map must be perfectly timed. This means that your BPM and offset are spot-on, sliders end when they should, notes are generally following a recognizable rhythm (such as the lyrics or drums) which is comprehensible by a player, and that there are no unsnapped notes.

    Fixed unsnapped notes. Thanks for this mod. Didnt see that
  3. I do not agree with the usage of overmapped triples in this difficulty, as doing it constantly will fail to reflect the parts where triples would actually be appropriate ways to reflect the song, due to overusage of emphasis.
    I wrote to someone about rythmic of this map. quantity of mappers = quantity of rythmics. And all of them are correct.someone want tripples, some one slider, someone slider + note. Place there triple is absolutly normal and its play more simple as u say. I need more help wyth aestetic & flow, but not with rythm. btw only one mapper have good slow - skystar. anyone's else flow is basic
  4. More things come to mind, such as aesthetics, spacing inconsistency and flow, but those are whole other topics and to apply them you'd likely need to remap again anyway, so I'll simply mention them here and allow you to search for more opinions about it. May be a good idea to ask for advice and opinions on the current state of the map first, so you can improve the next accordingly.
BUT, THANK U SO MUCH for your remark. I ll consider that words in the future
IControl

Naxess wrote:

From #modreqs



iControl's Muzukashii


  1. 00:16:280 - 00:31:280 - 01:01:280 - These objects are unsnapped, consider snapping them. A lot of other objects are also unsnapped, refer to 00:11:829 (41) - , for example. I'd suggest you go through the map and snap everything. Looks like the offset was changed.

    Ranking Criteria - Timing wrote:

    Your map must be perfectly timed. This means that your BPM and offset are spot-on, sliders end when they should, notes are generally following a recognizable rhythm (such as the lyrics or drums) which is comprehensible by a player, and that there are no unsnapped notes.
Ok should be good now. :)

Topic Starter
Shunao

Naxess wrote:

From #modreqs

General


  1. The majority of guest difficulties have a large amount of unsnapped objects.

  2. Tags
    1. No need for "mizuki nana starting now" in the tags as these already exist in the artist respective title field.
    2. Add "op", as this is an abbreviation of "opening"
  3. You may want to call IamKwan regarding tags and metadata. There seems to be a lot of information within the video itself, for example here. A lot of maps have recently been disqualified for incorrect metadata, so make sure yours is correct to avoid unnecessary issues during the ranking process.

  4. The offset of the video looks a bit weird, may want to double check it with some others. If you play it at 25% speed using the editor (and you enable video during editing) you'll probably notice that it often transitions off-beat, which is unusual of any kind of music video, especially because it looks like it tries to follow the song. From what I can see, it's slightly early as it is at the moment.

  5. The audio bitrate is currently 161 kbps. May or may not be intentional. Not necessary to change though, but preferably you'd use 192 kbps for best audio quality.

  6. With the recent changes to the ranking criteria you can now use background resolutions up to 1920x1200. May be something of interest in case you'd like a higher quality background image.

Easy


  1. 00:19:575 (1,3) - Refrain from stacking objects in easy difficulties. You'd want all the objects to be visible from the moment they appear in order to introduce new players to the game properly. After a pattern like 00:19:575 (1,2) - , it will be very hard to place the next object without overlapping in some way, using distance snapping, so I'd suggest you change the pattern itself to avoid this.

  2. 00:54:026 (1,3) - These can be made symmetrical for the sake of aesthetics. Copy paste one and flip vertically it using Ctrl+J.

  3. 01:05:235 (2,3) - This blanket looks a bit odd.

Normal


  1. 00:20:894 - Feels a bit strange to ignore this sound. It's both a snare and also the initiation to the transition for the next phase. Give a repeat to 00:20:564 (3) - to reflect the intensity properly, both through note density as well as coverage.

  2. 00:32:432 (8,9) - The note density here is a bit too much in my opinion. It's also a bit hard to hear in comparison with other rhythms like this. Consider simply placing a circle at 00:32:597 - instead. 00:32:432 - and 00:32:762 - are both red ticks, and these are very often weaker than the white ticks, for example in this case.

  3. 00:49:905 (4) - This slider looks a bit cramped, try allowing the border to be visible after the last anchor above as well.

  4. 00:54:685 (1,2,4,5) - These could be made symmetrical. It won't seem like it matters much, but even small details like these will make your map look neater overall.

  5. 01:01:114 - The rhythm choice feels a bit inconsistent here, considering that similar vocals on red ticks have been mapped previously. Refer to 00:38:696 (2) - , 00:40:015 (5) - , 00:47:927 (4) - , etc. I'd recommend you place a 1/1 slider on 01:01:114 - (basically it ends on 01:01:443 - ), instead of 01:01:279 (5,6) - . This way you'll avoid the awkward priority change at 01:01:608 (6,1) - by using red-white tick polarity.

  6. 01:01:773 (1) - I'd have moved the first node further to the right to match the bottom part of the slider shape.

  7. 01:02:597 - 01:03:916 - Refrain from emphasizing parallel sounds differently. In this case you put the stronger vocals as sliderends, yet earlier you put them as clickables, 00:43:311 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - .

  8. 01:04:575 (5) - Add NC to follow the NCing pattern of every other downbeat. I see no reason to stray from it here.

Hard


  1. 00:14:960 (2,3,4,5) - The rhythm here seems odd. If you're following drums, why is 00:15:289 - ignored? This is still a Hard we're talking about. If you're following guitar, why isn't 00:15:619 - a 1/1 slider instead of 00:15:784 (5) - , etc. I'd have followed the guitar since it's a distinct instrumental layer, but also keeping all snares clickable, by using a rhythm like this.

  2. 00:17:432 - You'll notice straight after this that you're ending sliders on snares as well as beginnings of stanzas. This is something you'd want to refrain from in order to emphasize the song's elements well through your map. Consider making places like these clickable.
    ^ 01:12:817 - This is happening basically all over though, so you may need to remap if you'd want to fix all these.

  3. 00:30:125 - Here you'll notice this beat is actually stronger than any other beat in the vicinity, including the downbeat, 00:30:289 - . It's as if the downbeat has been shifted from it's original position. This is known as syncopation, and is something you'd preferably reflect through your map where it fits, so consider making this beat clickable and a slider for additional emphasis.

  4. 00:32:268 - I'd have made this clickable since 00:30:949 - , 00:31:608 - , and hopefully now also 00:30:125 - , are clickable and these beats are emphasized in the song. Consider reflecting this in your map.

  5. 00:46:773 - Stacking two different sounds as circles should be avoided, especially if they are of varying intensity. This is because the second sound will not be reflected properly in terms of prominence. In this case 00:46:773 (3) - is stronger vocally, and non-existant in terms of impact from the guitar. I'd have made 00:46:773 (3,4) - a 1/2 slider to emphasize this difference.

  6. 00:47:927 (2,3,4,5) - Since you begin clicking on these circles using vocals, it may confuse players that the next clicks are not vocals, but drum impacts instead. In order to indicate that you're switching layer, end a slider on the strong vocal like this. Doing this may look strange at first, but this way the player will realize that you're not following vocals, making them start listening for other instrumental layers, which is what you want them to do because of the switch. You'll notice the drums actually start on 00:48:092 - , not 00:47:927 - , so mapping them the same would be kind of strange. This way you'll also avoid having 4 consecutive circles.

    Or you could just not switch layer at all, and keep it simple like this, emphasizing the vocal properly.


  7. 00:55:839 - I feel like your overmapping is a bit inconsistent around here. If you look at 00:54:520 (2,3,4) - , for instance, you'll notice you're mapping more than just vocals and percussion here, including the silence at 00:54:520 (2) - , so not doing the same for 00:55:839 - would seem strange. Either add a circle at 00:55:839 - or avoid overmapping by removing 00:54:520 (2) - .

  8. 01:01:114 (6,7,8) - These are not stacked properly atm.

  9. 01:16:938 (8) - You're overmapping here as well, yet there are still opportunities for a denser rhythm without overmapping, so I really see no point to it. It's almost like you're mapping a different song. Consider covering 01:17:268 - and removing the circle at 01:16:938 (8) - .

  10. 01:26:993 (5,1,2,3) - This is essentially the same sound as 01:27:487 (4) - , but they are mapped differently, suggesting something that the song is not. Consider unifying them in some way.

  11. 01:26:993 (5,1) - (5) should also have the NC instead of (1), since the measure starts from there.

Insane


  1. 00:08:202 (5) - There are two instrumental impacts over this note unlike 00:07:213 (3,4) - , consider using a different rhythm to reflect this. Preferably 1/2 slider and circle.
    ^ 00:25:015 (1,3) - These are also very unlike each other in the song, but your map is still suggesting that they're similar.
    ^ 00:27:652 (1,3) - It continues

  2. The rhythm choice in this map is very inconsistent, even more so than the other difficulties. Not entirely sure what happened here.

    00:12:322 - From this we know that the map is not following vocal, yet vocals are mapped at 00:13:641 - . 00:13:806 - From this we know you're not following drums, yet you sacrifice the emphasis on the vocal at 00:13:971 - for the drum at 00:14:136 - . Sometimes you prioritize the snares and sometimes you don't and it's very inconsistent, look at 00:13:476 - , for example. At the very least, make the note density equal to or higher than Hard and keep consistent with what sounds you actually want covered, clickable, etc.


  3. 00:30:125 (3,4) - Syncopation, already mentioned this in Hard, reflect it.

  4. 00:33:916 - This isn't hard anymore, you don't need to rely on overmapping things like 00:34:081 (4) - for it to be better playable when the song sounds like this. I'd suggest you use an anti-jump instead by making this clickable and covering 00:33:751 - with the slider tail of 00:33:586 (3) - .
    ^ 00:36:553 - Same overmapping here 00:36:718 (6) - . Use an anti-jump instead to reflect this better.

  5. 00:43:971 (3) - The way this is both overmapped and stacked under 00:43:311 (1) - , will definitely not help with readability. You should avoid overmapping clickables at all costs. Clickables are meant for reflecting instrumental impacts in the song, not to try complementing it. It is a rhythm game, after all, and the song is the main focus.
    ^ 00:45:289 (3) -
    ^ 00:45:619 (5) - and it continues

  6. 00:49:905 (1,2,3,4) - The stacking-under-slidertail thing doesn't work very well in terms of flow all the time either, so I'd recommend you try remapping kiai in this difficulty.

  7. 00:52:377 (5,6) - Generally you'd want things to overlap consistently, so since you overlapped it to a certain degree at 00:47:103 (5,6) - , you'd want the same here for aesthetic consistency.

  8. 00:54:026 (5,1) - These are currently not stacked.

  9. 00:55:839 (4,5,6,7,8) - As you've mapped them here you're suggesting their all of equal emphasis, yet this is not what the song is suggesting. 00:55:839 (4) - barely even exists in comparison with the other sounds. Whether you're following vocals or drums, 00:56:004 (5,7) - should in some way be emphasized. At the very least, make 00:56:333 (7,8) - a 1/2 slider.

  10. 00:58:476 (8) - I'm sure you're aware of the overmapping since it's basically all over, so I won't mention it again, but that does not mean I agree with it.

  11. 01:22:048 (5) - Multiple impacts should be reflected in my opinion, as this is an Insane and the sounds here are different from the sounds at 01:21:059 (3,4) - . I find it very strange that you rely on overmapping to increase the note density at some parts, but then completely ignore other sounds. This is one of the things I mean by the rhythm choice being inconsistent.
    ^ 01:24:685 (5) -

  12. 01:27:240 - 01:27:570 (4) - The rhythm is being reflected incorrectly here. The first one has a snare, the second one is silence.

  13. I'd suggest you take a look at pishifat's video on overmapping, this also talks about undermapping to some extent.

  14. Rhythm could use a large amount of rework in this diffiuclty. Sometimes you're covering things inconsistently, sometimes you're overmapping, undermapping, placing emphasis on parts where the song doesn't suggest it, etc. Generally rhythm is the most important aspect in a map. If the rhythm doesn't reflect the song, then no matter how you arrange your flow and make your aesthetics come together, pushing it for rank will be very difficult, as not mapping the song goes against the very goal of mapping.
Thanks for mod, all fixed!
Underdogs
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04:11 Underdogs: bonjour missour
04:11 Underdogs: wait did i get it right
04:11 ShogunMoon: yes! xd
04:12 ShogunMoon: bonjour!
04:12 Underdogs: wanna irc
04:12 ShogunMoon: yay, sure
04:13 Underdogs: idk, rip hard gd
04:13 Underdogs: in the end i had to do it myself
04:13 *Underdogs is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1031954 Mizuki Nana - STARTING NOW! [Easy]]
04:14 ShogunMoon: but in the pm, i tell you "I need a GD"
04:14 Underdogs: OH WAT
04:14 Underdogs: I TOT U WANTED TO DO A GD FOR MY MAP
04:14 Underdogs: DXXX
04:14 ShogunMoon: xD
04:14 Underdogs: well
04:14 Underdogs: back to the map
04:15 Underdogs: 00:27:652 (1) - this curve won't fit for the upcoming flow
04:15 Underdogs: i suggest straighten it up, and probably make it symmetrically similar to 00:28:311 (2) -
04:16 Underdogs: DS-wise, i suggest a simple straight. but if u have other plans i can't wait to see
04:18 Underdogs: 00:34:246 (3,4) - there's a blanket chance there
04:19 Underdogs: 00:40:674 (5) - for some reason this slider is not satisfying
04:19 Underdogs: maybe you make a slider art and put it on vocal rather than putting at the white tick
04:20 ShogunMoon: all fixed, but this slider it's fine for me
04:20 Underdogs: well, up to you
04:21 Underdogs: 01:04:575 (1) - given the fact that there is a strong beat and you NCed this slider, a curve is not recommended flow-wise and emphasis reasoning. But it's fine to keep it
04:22 Underdogs: ok let's move on to normal
04:22 ShogunMoon: kk
04:23 Underdogs: 00:06:553 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - for some reason this flow is kinda...meh
04:23 Underdogs: but if it's rankable then keep it
04:23 Underdogs: im not saying that you should change it tbh
04:24 ShogunMoon: no problem i keep it
04:25 Underdogs: 00:11:828 (1,2,3) - I think 00:12:652 (2) - is overmapping. Epilogue of intro should be the calm part, and i dont think 2 is going to help, probably making it unclickable
04:26 ShogunMoon: yes you're right, fixed
04:26 Underdogs: 00:22:377 (1) - I suggest this going to red tick coz without my headphones i hear strong beat at 00:22:213
04:27 Underdogs: 00:30:125 (1,2) - the end slider didnt blanket properly
04:28 Underdogs: tilt it a bit to the left. Don't worry, it wont show as DS error
04:28 Underdogs: no wait, right LOL
04:28 Underdogs: wait wat
04:28 ShogunMoon: xD
04:28 Underdogs: ok, press ctrl+1 and tilt it at x:69 y:212
04:29 Underdogs: then move 00:31:608 (3) - to x:48 y:332 for ds
04:30 Underdogs: also blanket error at 00:36:224 (2,3) - because 00:36:883 (3) - is too curvy. Straighten a little bit, maybe enough to make it a blanket
04:31 Underdogs: 00:40:674 (1) - i think better map until 00:40:839 before putting a spinner
04:32 Underdogs: also end spinner at 00:42:158 to give player recover time. I mean, newbies might try out normal
04:33 Underdogs: in my opinion
04:34 Underdogs: 00:50:729 (6,1) - blanket error
04:34 Underdogs: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6493042 it's like this instead]
04:35 Underdogs: 00:54:685 (2,3) - i think better you make it 1/1 because i dont hear anything that support 1/2 mapping
04:35 Underdogs: 1/1 slider i mean xdd
04:35 Underdogs: 00:56:004 (5,6) - ^
04:35 Underdogs: 00:58:641 (5,1) - blanket error
04:36 Underdogs: 01:02:927 cmon map this part it's kind of common tho
04:37 Underdogs: 01:09:191 (5,1) - 1/2 is not recommended here. There's a big white tick and i think you better emphasize on that instead
04:38 Underdogs: 01:13:147 (2,3) - could be a blanket imo, but i think it's ok to keep it as well
04:38 Underdogs: 01:22:048 (5,6) - blanket error here
04:38 Underdogs: imma check hard by gameplay
04:38 *Underdogs is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1052291 Mizuki Nana - STARTING NOW! [Hard]]
04:42 Underdogs: xidk
04:42 Underdogs: ar7 for hard, wat
04:42 Underdogs: nvm, keep it
04:42 ShogunMoon: kk xd
04:42 Underdogs: imo 7.5 or at least 7.3 is ok
04:43 Underdogs: sure?
04:43 ShogunMoon: np
04:43 Underdogs: i mean it's on my pov
04:43 Underdogs: 00:01:938 (3) - make this a reverse arrow
04:43 Underdogs: that way the players can see u emphasizing 00:02:432 (1) -
04:43 Underdogs: delete 00:02:268 (4) -
04:45 Underdogs: 00:04:905 (4) - put it at x:496 y:168 for emphasis reason
04:46 Underdogs: 00:11:663 (5) - delete this, i think it's better that way
04:47 Underdogs: 00:19:246 (3,4) - a slider would fit better, because vocals
04:48 Underdogs: 00:23:037 (3,4) - these aren't symmetrical, at which i think it's kind of weird
04:49 Underdogs: make 00:23:037 (3) - the same as 00:23:366 (4) - so that 00:23:366 (4) - wont lose the blanket with 00:23:696 (1) -
04:49 Underdogs: and i accidentally deleted our pm xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
04:49 Underdogs: i misclicked
04:50 ShogunMoon: XD
04:52 Underdogs: 00:28:311 (3) - ctrl+j better flow+looks better
04:52 Underdogs: or make it plain straight
04:52 Underdogs: both are good
04:53 Underdogs: 00:29:300 (2,3) - is better like [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6493140 this]
04:54 Underdogs: imo 00:46:608 (2,3,4) - is kind of overmapping
04:55 Underdogs: you saw in the play that i kind of struggled on that part
04:55 Underdogs: to make it better, i think 00:46:114 (1) - should be reversed instead
04:57 Underdogs: 00:57:487 (3) - ctrl+h ctrl+j ctrl+g and put it at x:368 y:360
04:58 Underdogs: 00:58:311 (2,3,4) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6493149
05:00 Underdogs: 01:13:806 (1) - ctrl+h
05:00 Underdogs: and put 01:14:300 (2) - at x:192 y:156
05:01 Underdogs: 01:16:114 (5) - unnecessary beat. probably delete
05:01 Underdogs: damn that's a lot of mod tbh
05:01 Underdogs: let's move on to the final diff : insane
05:01 ShogunMoon: omg
05:02 Underdogs: wat is it xD
05:03 ShogunMoon: my insane is weird xd
05:03 Underdogs: lemme check gameplay first
05:03 *Underdogs is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1052292 Mizuki Nana - STARTING NOW! [Insane]]
05:03 ShogunMoon: kk
05:06 Underdogs: lo i passed insane with higher acc than hard
05:06 ShogunMoon: lol XD
05:07 Underdogs: 00:01:938 (2,3) - = https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6493195
05:07 Underdogs: 00:02:432 (3,4) - = http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6493200
05:07 Underdogs: 00:05:070 (3,4) - bad overlap
05:08 Underdogs: 00:09:685 (2,4) - i think better move 00:10:344 (4) - somewhere else
05:09 Underdogs: 00:12:158 (1,2) - why the slider is 1/1. 1/2 better
05:10 Underdogs: 00:14:136 (6) - imo small jumps are better. coz insane and for more emphasis
05:12 Underdogs: 00:20:070
05:12 Underdogs: i think there's a beat there. if it is i suggest mapping it
05:12 Underdogs: 00:22:872 (3,4) - blanket error
05:12 Underdogs: 00:24:026 (8,9) - ^
05:14 Underdogs: 01:25:674 (1,2,3,4) - i think this is kind of unclean
05:15 Underdogs: unclean flow i mean
12:16 Underdogs: welp, that's it for irc
12:16 Underdogs: ok imma mod the other diffs, be posting soon
12:17 ShogunMoon: kk thanks for mod!

yes imma do it now fegit
kukil insane
00:12:159 (1,2) - better make this 1/2 beat. It's insane, not Hard xd
00:14:466 (1) - ctrl+g for emphasis
00:17:104 (1) - make this 1/2 to build up the rhythm for the next flow
00:22:214 (1,2) - weird stack imo
00:27:983 (1) - if you're following vocal better make this 1/2 slider bruh
00:30:125 (8) - I don't think the reverse slider is hitting any beat
00:35:236 (7) - 1/2 slider and add a circle or 1/2 slider at 00:35:564 for emphasis
00:35:895 (9,10,1) - these could have been double-stacked
00:39:521 (7,8) - this kind of beat is weird. why slider at the beat after big white tick
00:40:181 (9,10,11) - this gone off the flow
00:43:311 (1,2) - move these two beats to both 00:43:147 and 00:43:311
00:45:784 (1) - better mapped as 1/2
00:47:928 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this is overmapping
00:50:236 (2,3,4) - ^
01:25:674 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is REALLY unclean 1/3 slider stream. I suggest repositioning the emplacement

Firebool Expert
00:01:279 (1,2,3) - this could have been blanket
00:03:917 (1,3) - this overlap is weird. i mean REALLY
00:15:125 (3,4) - i dont think i hear anything that covers 1/4. I'll say this is overmapping
00:56:829 (2) - better make this a triplet

m o c h a EXTRA!
damn u really improved bruh

00:07:213 (5,6) - thismight be better
00:08:531 (9) - should you apply the mod above, this note should be placed like this
00:19:575 (1) - make this 1/1 slider instead
00:29:795 (5) - could have been blanket with 00:30:125 (1) -
00:40:839 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - these jumps are too forceful DS-wise. The jumps should be slowly ascend from DS, not high jumps on the get-go
00:44:630 (1,2) - i think this is not consistent beat-wise. why is 00:43:311 (2) and 00:45:454 (4) - are mapped 1/1 but not 00:44:630 (1,2) - ?
01:14:960 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - whoa this is seriously overmapped. Nerf it please
01:19:081 (1) - weird slider


if it's one thing i notice. the NC of each diff is VERY VERY inconsistent. search the wiki for tips in how to NC.
M o c h a

Underdogs wrote:

m o c h a EXTRA!
damn u really improved bruh hehe > <)b

00:07:213 (5,6) - thismight be better alright, i'll do that
00:08:531 (9) - should you apply the mod above, this note should be placed like this i want keep it like what i did with the other one
00:19:575 (1) - make this 1/1 slider instead okay
00:29:795 (5) - could have been blanket with 00:30:125 (1) - okay
00:40:839 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - these jumps are too forceful DS-wise. The jumps should be slowly ascend from DS, not high jumps on the get-go fixed
00:44:630 (1,2) - i think this is not consistent beat-wise. why is 00:43:311 (2) and 00:45:454 (4) - are mapped 1/1 but not 00:44:630 (1,2) - ? someone suggested me to do that, but i guess i change it since you're right
01:14:960 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - whoa this is seriously overmapped. Nerf it please I switched some of the notes around but i think it fits the way it is now. ill consider it if more people bring it up though
01:19:081 (1) - weird slider hm, ok ill fix it a bit

Thank you for the mod! :)

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199,238,54850,1,0,0:0:0:0:
388,103,55015,2,0,P|340:86|283:95,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
46,139,55344,6,0,P|31:91|51:42,1,90
207,152,55674,2,0,P|213:195|188:250,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,96,56004,1,8,0:0:0:0:
353,166,56169,1,0,0:0:0:0:
166,341,56333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
119,191,56498,1,0,0:0:0:0:
371,254,56663,6,0,L|346:135,1,90
119,191,56993,1,8,0:0:0:0:
403,87,57158,1,0,0:0:0:0:
403,87,57487,1,0,0:0:0:0:
403,87,57817,6,0,B|354:51|354:51|300:123|226:106,1,180
69,194,58311,2,0,P|51:149|70:82,1,90,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,168,58641,1,0,0:0:0:0:
199,251,58806,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,229,58888,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,207,58971,1,8,0:0:0:0:
175,186,59053,1,8,0:0:0:0:
167,164,59136,1,0,0:0:0:0:
373,97,59300,5,12,0:0:0:0:
208,272,59465,1,0,0:0:0:0:
227,69,59630,1,8,0:0:0:0:
318,236,59795,1,0,0:0:0:0:
102,126,59960,5,8,0:0:0:0:
398,178,60125,1,0,0:0:0:0:
85,272,60289,1,8,0:0:0:0:
343,36,60454,1,8,0:0:0:0:
315,254,60619,5,0,0:0:0:0:
311,277,60702,1,8,0:0:0:0:
309,299,60784,1,8,0:0:0:0:
306,323,60866,1,0,0:0:0:0:
302,345,60949,1,0,0:0:0:0:
167,164,61114,1,8,0:0:0:0:
170,124,61196,1,8,0:0:0:0:
205,104,61279,5,8,0:0:0:0:
149,271,61443,1,8,0:0:0:0:
108,279,61526,1,8,0:0:0:0:
69,268,61608,1,0,0:0:0:0:
43,237,61691,1,0,0:0:0:0:
29,199,61773,6,0,P|43:152|76:122,1,90,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
227,286,62103,1,0,0:0:0:0:
417,213,62268,2,0,P|413:176|382:124,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
155,222,62597,2,0,P|133:262|137:318,1,90
319,202,62927,1,8,0:0:0:0:
89,153,63092,6,0,L|169:110,1,90
297,224,63421,1,0,0:0:0:0:
452,145,63586,2,0,L|375:90,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
199,232,63916,2,0,P|217:279|253:313,1,90
397,58,64246,1,8,0:0:0:0:
290,188,64410,1,0,0:0:0:0:
127,43,64575,6,0,P|71:34|16:57,1,90
67,216,64905,1,8,0:0:0:0:
211,119,65070,2,0,L|189:248,1,90
175,334,65399,1,0,0:0:0:0:
335,212,65564,1,8,0:0:0:0:
102,124,65729,6,0,P|51:120|-2:149,1,90
73,269,66059,1,0,0:0:0:0:
83,303,66141,1,0,0:0:0:0:
93,337,66224,1,8,0:0:0:0:
235,254,66388,1,0,0:0:0:0:
239,231,66471,1,0,0:0:0:0:
243,209,66553,1,0,0:0:0:0:
247,186,66636,1,0,0:0:0:0:
250,163,66718,1,0,0:0:0:0:
299,344,66883,1,8,0:0:0:0:
55,187,67048,6,0,P|31:142|36:93,1,90
258,328,67377,1,0,0:0:0:0:
379,187,67542,2,0,P|399:142|391:74,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
153,137,67872,2,0,P|143:187|154:226,1,90
301,301,68202,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,177,68366,6,0,L|398:100,1,90
240,188,68696,1,0,0:0:0:0:
47,135,68861,2,0,L|119:53,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,128,69191,1,0,0:0:0:0:
245,331,69355,1,0,0:0:0:0:
141,166,69520,1,8,0:0:0:0:
85,310,69685,6,0,L|167:274,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
343,195,70015,1,0,0:0:0:0:
178,31,70180,1,8,0:0:0:0:
191,263,70344,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,128,70509,2,0,L|224:153,1,90
104,183,70839,1,8,0:0:0:0:
277,47,71004,1,0,0:0:0:0:
341,240,71169,6,0,L|350:272,4,22.5
131,105,71498,1,0,0:0:0:0:
77,289,71663,1,0,0:0:0:0:
106,243,71746,1,0,0:0:0:0:
153,217,71828,1,0,0:0:0:0:
206,213,71910,1,0,0:0:0:0:
255,235,71993,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,273,72075,1,0,0:0:0:0:
311,323,72158,5,0,0:0:0:0:
359,290,72240,1,0,0:0:0:0:
405,254,72322,1,0,0:0:0:0:
450,216,72405,1,0,0:0:0:0:
493,177,72487,5,4,0:0:0:0:
189,334,72652,1,0,0:0:0:0:
226,96,72817,2,0,P|206:55|148:32,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,273,73147,1,0,0:0:0:0:
385,76,73311,1,0,0:0:0:0:
373,281,73476,2,0,P|352:329|313:352,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
140,108,73806,5,0,0:0:0:0:
292,273,73971,1,0,0:0:0:0:
62,130,74136,2,0,P|61:85|102:38,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
357,210,74465,1,0,0:0:0:0:
140,108,74630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
315,42,74795,1,8,0:0:0:0:
134,309,74960,1,0,0:0:0:0:
134,309,75042,1,0,0:0:0:0:
134,309,75125,6,0,L|199:316,1,45
396,232,75289,2,0,L|322:190,1,45
95,112,75454,1,0,0:0:0:0:
95,112,75537,1,0,0:0:0:0:
95,112,75619,2,0,L|142:107,1,45
271,111,75784,1,0,0:0:0:0:
87,213,75949,1,0,0:0:0:0:
426,109,76114,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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352,123,76773,2,0,P|399:146|412:207,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,300,77103,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,83,77268,1,0,0:0:0:0:
335,218,77432,1,8,0:0:0:0:
152,59,77597,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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234,171,77927,2,0,L|182:222,1,45
307,65,78092,2,0,L|294:17,1,45
335,218,78257,2,0,L|344:262,1,45
152,59,78421,2,0,L|106:37,1,45
81,217,78586,1,0,0:0:0:0:
86,236,78669,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,257,78751,1,0,0:0:0:0:
98,277,78833,1,0,0:0:0:0:
103,297,78916,1,0,0:0:0:0:
110,316,78998,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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411,69,80399,6,0,P|424:136|396:202,1,135.000005149842,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
278,121,80894,1,0,0:0:0:0:
130,146,81059,2,0,L|187:222,1,67.5000025749208,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
310,339,81388,1,0,0:0:0:0:
455,273,81553,6,0,L|380:238,1,67.5000025749208
164,139,81883,1,8,0:0:0:0:
387,97,82048,1,0,0:0:0:0:
265,281,82213,1,0,0:0:0:0:
78,184,82377,2,0,P|65:141|95:72,1,101.250003862381,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
164,139,82707,6,0,L|183:256,1,107.999996704102,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,357,83037,6,0,P|312:287|327:222,1,135.000005149842,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
269,101,83531,1,0,0:0:0:0:
459,39,83696,2,0,P|478:69|471:131,1,67.5000025749208,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
425,277,84026,1,0,0:0:0:0:
231,193,84191,6,0,L|304:169,1,67.5000025749208
482,100,84520,1,8,0:0:0:0:
269,101,84685,1,0,0:0:0:0:
265,281,84850,1,0,0:0:0:0:
363,124,85015,2,0,P|363:72|328:26,1,101.250003862381,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
269,101,85344,6,0,L|268:215,1,107.999996704102,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
122,333,85674,6,8,L|86:359,2,45.0000017166138
126,51,86004,2,0,L|90:24,2,45.0000017166138
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450,186,86993,5,4,0:0:0:0:
244,95,87158,1,8,0:0:0:0:
244,95,87240,1,8,0:0:0:0:
244,95,87322,1,8,0:0:0:0:
359,337,87487,5,4,0:0:0:0:
363,57,87652,1,8,0:0:0:0:
363,57,87735,1,8,0:0:0:0:
363,57,87817,1,8,0:0:0:0:
158,213,87982,5,4,0:0:0:0:
482,237,88147,1,8,0:0:0:0:
482,237,88229,1,8,0:0:0:0:
482,237,88311,1,8,0:0:0:0:
174,86,88476,1,0,0:0:0:0:
284,289,88641,1,0,0:0:0:0:
471,92,88806,6,0,P|338:48|308:168,1,270.000010299683,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
Firebool

Underdogs wrote:

Firebool Expert
00:01:279 (1,2,3) - this could have been blanket Fixed
00:03:917 (1,3) - this overlap is weird. i mean REALLY Ok, fixed , no overlap anymore
00:15:125 (3,4) - i dont think i hear anything that covers 1/4. I'll say this is overmapping Its absolutly like that 00:26:333 (4,5,6,7,8) - so I havent change anything yet
00:56:829 (2) - better make this a triplet Fixed
UPDATE!!! : http://puu.sh/s7aSo/7ca6eead5c.osz
I Must Decrease
check your pm's, shogunmoon.
Topic Starter
Shunao

Xexxar wrote:

check your pm's, shogunmoon.
Check~
Plaudible
what happened to all the gds? :c
Topic Starter
Shunao

Plaudible wrote:

what happened to all the gds? :c
The GD diffs can't be ranked so I remove all the GD and now I search GD by good mapper :/
Plaudible
Ahh, well I'm not good by any means, but I could take a stab at an extra if you'd like me to.
Another extra I've been working on as an example: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/533298

Also, if you need a mod once new GD's start coming in PM me anytime ^-^/
Topic Starter
Shunao

Plaudible wrote:

Ahh, well I'm not good by any means, but I could take a stab at an extra if you'd like me to.
Another extra I've been working on as an example: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/533298

Also, if you need a mod once new GD's start coming in PM me anytime ^-^/
Ohh nice example but i'm sorry I have already GD's but thanks you, a mod should be nice :)
-NanoRIPE-
hey

[Easy]
00:06:224 - move this green line to the next white tick? for make it tidy
00:08:531 (3) - why you dont add clap here? the drum sound looks strong imo
00:11:169 (3) - ^ *I suggest to swap the clap from slidertail to the head slider
00:11:828 (1) - finish here because the cymbal sound (maybe Normal finish is enough)
00:20:399 (2) - clap here and also add it at 00.20.564 for the drum sound
00:27:652 (1,3) - this overlap looks ugly imo
01:17:762 (1) - clap here (for the drum) or whistle (for vocal)
01:25:344 (3) - make the hs same as 01:22:707 (3)

[Normal]
00:11:663 - make the green line on the next white tick?
00:40:674 - add circle here for the vocal
01:05:235 (2,4) - overlap boi

tbh why you dont copy the normal's hitsound to easy diff? because the normal hs looks suitable with the music than easy's hitsound

[Hard]
00:46:938 - add circle here for better rhythm (i know you try to emphatize to vocal but pls if you make it blank here it would make awkward rhythm and also for better spread)
00:54:520 - ^
00:55:839 - ^
01:15:042 - unnecessary triplet
01:16:938 - circle here (the reason same as before)
01:17:762 (5) - nc here for consistency
01:23:037 (1) - finish here
01:27:322 (3,4) - clap for the drum sound (on the slidertail)
01:28:476 (6) - del this and change it with 2 circles? for better rhythm ~ (and also nc here)
01:28:806 (7) - i think finish is better than whistle here

gl
Topic Starter
Shunao

-NanoRIPE- wrote:

hey Hi o/

[Easy]
00:06:224 - move this green line to the next white tick? for make it tidy
00:08:531 (3) - why you dont add clap here? the drum sound looks strong imo
00:11:169 (3) - ^ *I suggest to swap the clap from slidertail to the head slider
00:11:828 (1) - finish here because the cymbal sound (maybe Normal finish is enough)
00:20:399 (2) - clap here and also add it at 00.20.564 for the drum sound
00:27:652 (1,3) - this overlap looks ugly imo
01:17:762 (1) - clap here (for the drum) or whistle (for vocal)
01:25:344 (3) - make the hs same as 01:22:707 (3)

[Normal]
00:11:663 - make the green line on the next white tick? I can't because the finish doesn't sound nice
00:40:674 - add circle here for the vocal
01:05:235 (2,4) - overlap boi

tbh why you dont copy the normal's hitsound to easy diff? because the normal hs looks suitable with the music than easy's hitsound Are you sure? because I think in the normal diff there are more notes some we can add more hitsounds for emphasis

[Hard]
00:46:938 - add circle here for better rhythm (i know you try to emphatize to vocal but pls if you make it blank here it would make awkward rhythm and also for better spread)
00:54:520 - ^
00:55:839 - ^
01:15:042 - unnecessary triplet
01:16:938 - circle here (the reason same as before)
01:17:762 (5) - nc here for consistency
01:23:037 (1) - finish here it's not very necessary, I find
01:27:322 (3,4) - clap for the drum sound (on the slidertail)
01:28:476 (6) - del this and change it with 2 circles? for better rhythm ~ (and also nc here)
01:28:806 (7) - i think finish is better than whistle here

gl
Not reponse= fixed

Thanks for modding Nano! :)
marcuddles
Don't want to look rude but, aaah, finally Mocha's Extra was deleted. It was really ugly.

I may mod this soon, if I'm free.
Topic Starter
Shunao

Mark101 wrote:

Don't want to look rude but, aaah, finally Mocha's Extra was deleted. It was really ugly.

I may mod this soon, if I'm free.
Lool, okay should be great but if you mod my map, please don't mod the Insane (I want to delete it) because i'm not a very good mapper and i'm not experimented for make difficult diff, so i don't want to see my Insane ranked, my insane suck xd
I'd map Insane diff when I would have 1 or 2 maps ranked :D
Xayler
Damn you have made huge improvement since I gave you the offset back in the day. :D
And damn Kagetsu, you actually did a gd for this set, didn't really expect it.

Is Extra free or taken by someone? I'd gladly improve my skills at higher star ratings so would be nice to do it. I see that the old gd's got removed. Well I'd start my extra all over again so it will be different from the extra what I did for my own set.

If not then I guess that a mod again? I think that this map has got huge reworks since my last mod what was few months ago.
Topic Starter
Shunao

Xayler wrote:

Damn you have made huge improvement since I gave you the offset back in the day. :D
And damn Kagetsu, you actually did a gd for this set, didn't really expect it.

Is Extra free or taken by someone? I'd gladly improve my skills at higher star ratings so would be nice to do it. I see that the old gd's got removed. Well I'd start my extra all over again so it will be different from the extra what I did for my own set.

If not then I guess that a mod again? I think that this map has got huge reworks since my last mod what was few months ago.
I wait for 1 Extra, maybe 2.. So it's complete sorry :(
But you can mod if you want :)
_DT3
Aah, would have liked to help by naking a GD or sth like that but I see that everything is full :D
If you need anything, just PM me! Very supportive of this set
Topic Starter
Shunao

_DT3 wrote:

Aah, would have liked to help by naking a GD or sth like that but I see that everything is full :D
If you need anything, just PM me! Very supportive of this set
Ohh thank you, for be supportive to my map, for now I need mod for my Hard diff, if you can help me should be nice! ~ :)
And thanks for the star! c:
Topic Starter
Shunao

Omg! This is too much, if I can make 100 favorites, I think that I would die :o :o
Xayler
Imo Nowa's Insane should be Light Insane to fit better with the spead as Kagetsu's Insane in basically the same star rating.
Topic Starter
Shunao

Xayler wrote:

Imo Nowa's Insane should be Light Insane to fit better with the spead as Kagetsu's Insane in basically the same star rating.
I think it's good like this, I prefer keep this :D
Meg
Voice Chat and IRC mod on ShiraKai's Extra
SPOILER
2016-11-25 22:33 Meg: 00:14:300 - 
2016-11-25 22:33 Meg: add note
2016-11-25 22:34 Meg: 00:18:916 (2,3) -
2016-11-25 22:35 ShiraKai: おんおん
2016-11-25 22:35 Meg: 00:14:795 (2,1) - みにくい
2016-11-25 22:38 Meg: 00:31:608 (1,2,3) - 微妙に音とりにくかったかもしれない
2016-11-25 22:40 Meg: http://puu.sh/stYx3.jpg 00:32:432 (4) - これコピペ
2016-11-25 22:41 Meg: 00:32:268 (3,4,5) -
2016-11-25 22:45 Meg: 00:31:608 (1,2) -
2016-11-25 22:47 Meg: 00:47:432 - ボーカル拾いでhttp://puu.sh/stYMV.jpgの方が合うんじゃないかな
2016-11-25 22:51 Meg: http://puu.sh/stYXh.jpg
2016-11-25 22:54 ShiraKai: 00:28:971 (1) -
2016-11-25 22:56 Meg: http://puu.sh/stZ8Y.jpg
2016-11-25 22:57 Meg: 00:48:257 -
2016-11-25 22:58 Meg: 00:47:103 (5,1,2,3,4) -
2016-11-25 23:02 Meg: 00:57:158 (2) -
2016-11-25 23:06 Meg: 00:42:817 (1) - clapいるか?
2016-11-25 23:08 ShiraKai: 01:06:883 (7) -
2016-11-25 23:16 Meg: 01:00:619 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2016-11-25 23:22 ShiraKai: 01:17:103 (3) -
2016-11-25 23:23 ShiraKai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6653046
2016-11-25 23:24 ShiraKai: 01:06:718 (6) -
2016-11-25 23:25 Meg: 196 56
2016-11-25 23:27 Meg: 右上の座標のとこクリックすると座標指定できるの知らなかったんですか?!!?!?!?
2016-11-25 23:28 ShiraKai: ^^b
2016-11-25 23:34 Meg: mod終了
2016-11-25 23:35 ShiraKai: thank you <3
ShiraKai
thanks Meg :)
fixed!

http://puu.sh/su12m.osu
Shyotamaze
Hi, from #modreqs

Hard
  1. Les hitsounds sont un peu bizarres imo, je te conseille plutôt de copier/t'inspirer des hitsounds dans les + hautes diffs, genre dans l'intro tu mets des sortes de "claps" 00:01:279 (1) - alors que de base y a pas de son qui justifie un hitsound ici etc
  2. 00:01:279 (1,2,3) - Fais le même spacing ici, pas besoin de "jump" + essaye de blanket un peu mieux 00:01:773 (2,3) - comme tu l'as fait ici 00:01:279 (1,2) - pour que ce soit + joli
  3. 00:03:257 (3,4,1) - Le spacing devrait être + grand entre 4 et 1 vu que sur le 1 y a un gros son de guitare donc réduis le spacing entre 3 et 4
  4. 00:06:553 (1) - Je comprends pas trop comment tu gères le spacing/les jumps dans l'intro mais bon ce son mérite clairement un spacing + grand imo
  5. 00:16:773 (4) - Pourquoi un reverse ? Y a pas de son sur le tick rouge donc rallonge le et fais un slider 1/1 sans reverse à la place
  6. 00:40:180 (7,8,9) - Vaut mieux un truc comme ça à la place http://prntscr.com/dbq0ik vu qu'il y a un stream
Nowa's Insane
  1. 00:16:773 (5) - Add clap
  2. 00:19:575 (5,1) - Maybe make the same kind of slider so they blanket each other? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6654275 You could also rotate them 00:19:575 (5,1) - because the flow here 00:19:246 (4,5) - is a bit weird imo
ShiraKai's Extra
  1. 00:16:773 (5) - Add clap
  2. 00:42:817 (1,2,3) - NC them so players won't misread them as a triple
Nice map, so much SP I hope it'll get ranked someday lol
Good luck! ;)
Topic Starter
Shunao

Shyotamaze wrote:

Hi, from #modreqs Hi! o/

Hard
  1. Les hitsounds sont un peu bizarres imo, je te conseille plutôt de copier/t'inspirer des hitsounds dans les + hautes diffs, genre dans l'intro tu mets des sortes de "claps" 00:01:279 (1) - alors que de base y a pas de son qui justifie un hitsound ici etc Okay, je vérifirais ça!
  2. 00:01:279 (1,2,3) - Fais le même spacing ici, pas besoin de "jump" + essaye de blanket un peu mieux 00:01:773 (2,3) - comme tu l'as fait ici 00:01:279 (1,2) - pour que ce soit + joli Fixed!
  3. 00:03:257 (3,4,1) - Le spacing devrait être + grand entre 4 et 1 vu que sur le 1 y a un gros son de guitare donc réduis le spacing entre 3 et 4 Fixed
  4. 00:06:553 (1) - Je comprends pas trop comment tu gères le spacing/les jumps dans l'intro mais bon ce son mérite clairement un spacing + grand imo fixed ^^'
  5. 00:16:773 (4) - Pourquoi un reverse ? Y a pas de son sur le tick rouge donc rallonge le et fais un slider 1/1 sans reverse à la place J'ai mis un renverse car on entend la guitare
  6. 00:40:180 (7,8,9) - Vaut mieux un truc comme ça à la place http://prntscr.com/dbq0ik vu qu'il y a un stream Fixed!

Nice map, so much SP I hope it'll get ranked someday lol Thanks! I hope too lol
Good luck! ;)
Thanks for modding!
Nowaie

Xayler wrote:

Imo Nowa's Insane should be Light Insane to fit better with the spead as Kagetsu's Insane in basically the same star rating.
I was specifically asked to make a 4.5* map. Also they represent two ways to map around 4.5 stars

Shyotamaze wrote:

Hi, from #modreqs

Nowa's Insane
  1. 00:16:773 (5) - Add clap Done
  2. 00:19:575 (5,1) - Maybe make the same kind of slider so they blanket each other? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6654275 You could also rotate them 00:19:575 (5,1) - because the flow here 00:19:246 (4,5) - is a bit weird imo Technically they are simiiar but i used only CTRL H to flip the mirrored one it created bit more unique pattern than just a normal double blanket slider pattern. About the flow thingy : it's just a simple straight flow into a circular flow thingy somewhat like here (but the change is other way around) 00:18:421 (1,2,3) - . If this gets noted out by others later on i will consider this. Good suggestion though
Thanks for the opinions/modding

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Evanescent-
mod
Nowa's Insane
00:22:213 (1,2) - change these both sliders into a long slider, since it represents the starting point of the new rhythm.

why does this feel like kunka's style of mapping? :o



Shirakai's Extra
00:42:817 (1,2,3) - give spacing abit, or give 1/2 sliders.
00:44:136 (3) - fix blanket
00:46:114 (1,2) - decrease the spacing abit, since it represents the climax part of the song.
00:51:388 (1,2) - decrease spacing
01:02:268 (2,3) - ^
01:08:366 (6,7,1) - remove triplet, doesnt suit the rhythm.
01:13:476 (6,1) - spacing

those are just my opinions, if you do not want to change it its okay. good luck on getting this map ranked! :)
ShiraKai
Shyotamaze

Shyotamaze wrote:

Hi, from #modreqs

ShiraKai's Extra
  1. 00:16:773 (5) - Add clap fixed
  2. 00:42:817 (1,2,3) - NC them so players won't misread them as a triple keep
Nice map, so much SP I hope it'll get ranked someday lol
Good luck! ;)

InfiWong

InfiWong wrote:

mod

[Shirakai's Extra]
00:42:817 (1,2,3) - give spacing abit, or give 1/2 sliders. no
00:44:136 (3) - fix blanket ok
00:46:114 (1,2) - decrease the spacing abit, since it represents the climax part of the song. no
00:51:388 (1,2) - decrease spacing ^
01:02:268 (2,3) - ^ ^
01:08:366 (6,7,1) - remove triplet, doesnt suit the rhythm. i do not think so
01:13:476 (6,1) - spacing no
those are just my opinions, if you do not want to change it its okay. good luck on getting this map ranked! :)

thank you for modding :3

to Shogun : pls add "kacha" in tags
http://puu.sh/swgpK.osu
Topic Starter
Shunao

ShiraKai wrote:

to Shogun : pls add "kacha" in tags
http://puu.sh/swgpK.osu
kk
_Meep_
Stay tuned Im coming in with my 3rd mod on this soon
Nowaie

InfiWong wrote:

mod
Nowa's Insane
00:22:213 (1,2) - change these both sliders into a long slider, since it represents the starting point of the new rhythm. Alrighty, let's see how that goes

why does this feel like kunka's style of mapping? :o Who is kunka :o

those are just my opinions, if you do not want to change it its okay. good luck on getting this map ranked! :)
Thanks for modding~


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505,226,83531,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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209,319,87982,5,6,0:0:0:0:
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_Meep_
ze 4th mod by meep
palette town
00:11:169 (7) - How most of the notes,including this one,in the map are placed feels really random,and have no flow to it whatsoever,try to fix please,place them somewhere or have them be in relation to the previous notes,if not it'd look really out of place
00:20:729 (6) - Make this have equal distances between previous and next note please
00:21:059 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - For the highest diff, this feels really really slow for a 5.43* and I think the notes should be spaced more
00:22:213 (1,3) - As I said above,they are placed pretty randomly lol
00:23:366 (4) - Empahsize this note by placing it further away from (3), there is a kick sound
00:25:674 (3,5) - Stack like how u did on 00:26:333 (5,7) - ?
00:27:652 (1) - I don't see why there is a need to use the exact same slider again,this is really weird
00:29:136 (6,7,8) - Why are these stacked so messily
00:30:619 (4,5,6) - The placements look really messy,6 looks too close to 4
00:37:542 (7) - 2 circles plez
00:37:872 (8,1) - The overlap doesn't fit the song imo,consider changing
00:40:180 (1,2,3,4,5) - Making 4,5 stick out towards 00:40:674 (6) - Doesn't necessarily mean that the flow is perfect lol,it makes it harder almost,because the player has to stop his mouse after streaming in the direction of 6 and then move in the direction of 6 again,which is really not needed imo
00:42:652 (5,6,7) - Why is the DS here different than the rest of the streams on 00:42:322 (1,2,3,4) - ?
00:42:982 (8) - Might as well increase SV for this too
00:42:982 (8,9,1) - the overlap looks really bad
00:43:311 (1,2) - Blanket it properly lol

that fakin tsz tsz sound is annoying af,if its only in ur diff,remove it,tbh it distracts me a lot :x

00:47:927 (8,9,1) - The flow here is really weird because the cursor has to hesitate to change its direction from -> to <-,which is really unnecessary imo,the overlap of the sliderend of 1 and 8 isn't really ideal either
00:48:586 (1,3) - Again,this isn't really neat as it 3 overlaps 00:48:586 (1) -
00:50:399 (6,8) - Why is this overlap here lol
00:51:224 (1,2) - This is the only time in the kiai you decided to stack a note ontop of another,which is really weird
00:51:388 (2,4) - Blanket this properly
00:52:048 (4,5) - how you place this isn't really neat as well,it doesn't give off the same vibe as 00:10:839 (6,7) - because it's placed wrongly
00:57:817 (3,5) - overlap .-.
01:01:773 (1,3) - ^
01:03:092 (5,6) - The flow for this is weird as well,cursor goes right to the note,but then goes left,pls change
01:03:916 (7,2) - overlap
01:07:542 (2,3) - If you're going for this kind of pattern,please know where to use it,right now it looks like you don't since most of them either are off or make the next few or previous few notes look bad
01:09:685 (1,3,4,5) - Blanket this properly
01:11:663 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Making them all the same DS feels really boring tbh,change pls
01:17:762 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - WHY are the distances between the notes here so inconsistent? This needs to change,and make it more interesting plez,
01:21:553 (5,6) - Blanket it properly
01:24:026 (4,5) - This jump feels awkward as hell
01:25:015 (7,8) - This too
01:25:344 (8) - that stub on the slider looks ugly tbh,just make it a striaght or curved slider
01:28:147 - drum sound
This diff needs a lot more polishing than the rest of the set,I suppose it's new since I haven't seen it,but so far as I know,this is the most unpolished diff of the set. Though many things can be improved,such as note placement and rhythm. Note placements in this diff seem to be very random,more of a 'oh this place looks nice,might as well put it here' kind of feeling, which is obviously not right. I can't see any obvious flow at all in this difficulty and the jumps are too linear,everywhere. DS is also really inconsistent between slow-fast parts and the overlaps are pretty bad,not trying to be mean though,just blunt.

shirakai
only 1 complaint
01:17:762 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this looks ugly as hell LOL
fix pls
nth much,fun map ;d

nowa(warp drive rank pls)
dank,no problems
no kds i suppose,pls rank fast ;3
_DT3
Oh I just saw the new spread, looks wonderful! Look out for my 2nd mod (sorry I couldn't mod your other map, had some irl stuff to do)
But it seems like you have a rather big gap between Hard and Nowa's Insane compared to the rest. While I don'T think it's too necessary to add another diff, balancing it out with a ~3.85* diff could help
Xayler

_DT3 wrote:

Oh I just saw the new spread, looks wonderful! Look out for my 2nd mod (sorry I couldn't mod your other map, had some irl stuff to do)
But it seems like you have a rather big gap between Hard and Nowa's Insane compared to the rest. While I don'T think it's too necessary to add another diff, balancing it out with a ~3.85* diff could help
That's what I said previously.
Topic Starter
Shunao

_DT3 wrote:

Oh I just saw the new spread, looks wonderful! Look out for my 2nd mod (sorry I couldn't mod your other map, had some irl stuff to do)
But it seems like you have a rather big gap between Hard and Nowa's Insane compared to the rest. While I don'T think it's too necessary to add another diff, balancing it out with a ~3.85* diff could help
No problem for the 2nd mod, yes I know for my hard diff and Nowa, but I don't understand for the 3.85*...
_DT3

ShogunMoon wrote:

_DT3 wrote:

Oh I just saw the new spread, looks wonderful! Look out for my 2nd mod (sorry I couldn't mod your other map, had some irl stuff to do)
But it seems like you have a rather big gap between Hard and Nowa's Insane compared to the rest. While I don'T think it's too necessary to add another diff, balancing it out with a ~3.85* diff could help
No problem for the 2nd mod, yes I know for my hard diff and Nowa, but I don't understand for the 3.85*...
Could fit the spread since Nowa's Diff is like 4.5 and yours is 3.2. Maybe 3.9 is better
Topic Starter
Shunao

_DT3 wrote:

Could fit the spread since Nowa's Diff is like 4.5 and yours is 3.2. Maybe 3.9 is better
Yes you're right but I can't change my diff because the SP is too high it's better for the Nowa's Insane, I think..
But I think Nowa will not want to change it for one 3.85* thus I think it's not possible.
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