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Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT

posted 2016-10-07T02:01:51+00:00

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I Must Decrease

Joined June 2013

I Must Decrease 2016-10-31T18:05:56+00:00

ya btw tags:

eroge visual novel relief Shin'ainaru Anata e レリーフ DeaR YoU retryment miu yuu game op rask opening Anxient Kanau Mamayu fuyuyu- Lasse Xexxar

Liena

115 posts

Joined August 2015

Liena 2016-10-31T21:11:09+00:00

General
i think it has many useless intherited point

Easy
00:22:783 (2,3) - blanket?
00:32:256 (1,2) - missing hitsounds?
01:27:519 (3) - if you are following the piano here, you should remove

Normal
00:42:362 (1,2,3,4,5) - this overlap can be improved imo, although not greatly affect the gameplay
01:03:519 (3) - curve for better flow?
01:14:887 (4) - unsnapped
01:10:151 (1,2,3,4) - so much 1/2 maybe try simplify?
01:17:414 (4,5,1) - hard do catch, remove 01:17:572 (5) - ?

Anxient's Hard
01:07:309 (5) - remove and turn a single not?
01:22:467 (5) - why not a 1/2?
01:27:677 (3,4) - maybe a little jump

gl

Rieri

905 posts

Joined December 2014

Rieri 2016-11-01T07:01:57+00:00

Hello~ M4M from in-game request

erase unused green lines pls cuz it looks messy af xdxdxdx

Normal

00:15:519 (3,4) - These are the only notes in the whole song you choose not to stack. Yet, you have stacked all the circle-slider rhythms before and after.
00:17:572 (2) - This slider looks stiff and fat xd maybe curve the long part of the slider like this
00:27:204 (1,2,3,4) - I would arrange these notes so that 00:29:098 (4) - this can stack at the end of 00:30:204 (2) - this slider, just pointing this out because it's not hard to fix and it would make the map look better overall
00:42:362 (1,2,3,4) - To be really honest, this looks really cramped and sloppy

Hard

00:42:204 - sound here, you should map this cuz this part was evidently following the instrumentals
00:56:098 (4) - not sure why you emphasized this ONLY when the 2 circles before it had similar intensity. not only that, this tiny extra space which you call emphasizing seems really insignificant, if you're gonna emphasize, make sure we can tell that you did
00:56:256 (1) - seems too short, maybe map it with something other than a spinner
01:03:362 (2,3,1) - making a perfect triangle with the heads would be nice
01:19:151 (1) - really awkward rhythm, I'd put it on 01:18:993 -
01:32:967 (1) - spinner ends in a really awkward spot. its not the start of a new sound or the end, just smack right in the middle. I'd end it on 01:35:414 -

lasse

01:07:309 (1) - I just don't get the reason behind this, I want to know why
01:35:414 (1) - the end of this slider looked a little off compared to the curve on the first part probably cuz the last node is a bit more curved in. i know this is very minor but people like me who can't find sht in your map need to do at least something xd
http://puu.sh/s2BMi/25915fa20f.jpg maybe make the end of the slider less curved and a bit skinnier through the gap http://puu.sh/s2BO6/565751153f.jpg
love the slider art and the flow, beautiful map.

chino

00:08:256 (4) - this should be nced if compared to the earlier part 00:03:204 (1,2,3) - which is a similar part
00:19:625 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - just an idea, it would be nice if the spacing of the notes correspond to the instrumentals. so like start with relatively high spacing and decrease as it goes because apparently you did the same thing 00:15:993 (1,2,3) - here and 00:31:309 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here and other parts too xd
00:44:730 (8) - I don't think there is a sound on 00:44:809 -
hw?

love

00:20:888 (1) - It feels like there's less emphasis here than the other notes with the finishes.. The song makes it feel like it should be intense-resolve sorta like chromaticism.
01:12:677 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I wish the patterns could be more variant, seems boring to just go back and forth in a circle
noice map m9

love the style, good luck

I Must Decrease

908 posts

Joined June 2013

I Must Decrease 2016-11-01T07:36:01+00:00

ProEzreal wrote:
chino
00:08:256 (4) - this should be nced if compared to the earlier part 00:03:204 (1,2,3) - which is a similar part ya
00:19:625 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - just an idea, it would be nice if the spacing of the notes correspond to the instrumentals. so like start with relatively high spacing and decrease as it goes because apparently you did the same thing 00:15:993 (1,2,3) - here and 00:31:309 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here and other parts too xdREALLY good suggestion 10/10 keep up the good work modding thank u
00:44:730 (8) - I don't think there is a sound on 00:44:809 - artistic soft overmap with slider end for extra strain with voice
hw? homework?

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435,97,45835,1,0,3:0:0:0:
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78,259,46467,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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105,335,67309,1,8,0:0:0:0:
105,335,67625,6,0,B|151:351|151:351|228:336,1,94.499997116089,4|0,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
349,186,67941,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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506,253,84677,1,2,0:3:0:0:
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319,4,89730,1,2,0:1:0:0:
333,76,90046,1,2,0:3:0:0:
307,146,90362,6,0,B|289:188|289:188|290:276,2,129.600003164063,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
342,80,93362,1,2,0:1:0:0:
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157,372,95098,1,2,0:0:0:0:
255,180,95414,5,10,0:1:0:0:

also i updated the ending jumps to maintain angle (buffed it to 5.51 tho)

also BG for anxient's diff :^) http://puu.sh/s3kaA/bdb7d563ed.png

Last edited by I Must Decrease 2016-11-01T23:14:09+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

I Must Decrease

908 posts

Joined June 2013

I Must Decrease 2016-11-01T23:06:23+00:00

I am also contributing a newly converted video that is 720p (Filesize: 17MB) The offset for this video is -1300, so please apply that to each diff.

http://puu.sh/s3n5t/2a26235a5d.avi

toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

toybot 2016-11-02T00:00:47+00:00

idc about green lines, since they don't actually affect anything and would be a pain to remove for the gain of nothing :d
cleaned up easy and normal a bit, kept some on red ticks because i feel like the music requires them. don't think it should be a pain

6th wrote:
00:49:625 (4) - Convert it to 2 circles ? // i like the circular motion right now
01:21:204 (3,4) - Any reason to that sudden jump ? I can barely see one. // at this point the singer reaches the highest pitch of the melody, and i want to emphasize that a bit

thanks guys!

Eir_DELETED

Eir_DELETED 2016-11-02T03:25:04+00:00

irc(Xexxar's diff)

11:40 Xexxar: what did oyu think about this map btw
11:40 *Xexxar is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1119127 Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT]
11:41 joker-: not bad
11:43 joker-: you think about your diff dont you?
11:43 Xexxar: i mean
11:43 Xexxar: ya?
11:45 joker-: umm
11:46 joker-: 01:26:572 - add note?
11:47 *Xexxar is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1119127 Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT [Xexxar's Ex:TremE]]
11:47 Xexxar: redl
11:47 Xexxar: xd
11:47 joker-: okay
11:48 joker-: oh, already fixed lol
11:48 Xexxar: ya
11:49 Xexxar: 00:19:625 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
11:49 Xexxar: and i changed this
11:52 joker-: nice, but i think should reduce distance a bit i like
11:54 joker-: its minor opinion
11:56 joker-: 00:15:993 (1,2,3) - why dont you same distances?
11:58 Xexxar: cause i like the feel
11:58 Xexxar: with the violin
11:58 joker-: ic
12:04 joker-: 01:14:571 (1,2) - im worried abot this overlap
12:04 joker-: oops
12:04 joker-: 01:14:571 (1,2) - *
12:06 joker-: https://puu.sh/s3B43/14ec234887.png
12:08 Xexxar: hm
12:08 Xexxar: i'll move that
12:08 Xexxar: post that so i remember thx
12:08 joker-:

12:13 joker-: 01:07:941 (2,4) - 01:09:204 (2,4) - i think you should same, that's a sense of unity
12:14 Xexxar: post in mod please on forums
12:14 Xexxar: im going to bed xd
12:14 Xexxar: thanks tho

12:15 joker-: GN

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Lami 2016-11-03T12:18:57+00:00

N

01:14:887 (4) - snapped tail
01:15:362 (2,3) - how about rhythm ctrl+G

Anxient's diff

00:13:309 - hmm... clickable?
01:22:467 (5) - slicence on tail

Kanau's diff

00:01:941 - pianoの音が強いのはわかるんですが、それでも全晩的に静かなpartなんで volumeは４～５０％くらいがいいと思います。
静かなpartと kiai partの volumeが同じすることはちょっと曖昧な感じかも

Lasse's diff

00:20:888 (1) - how about more repeat flow effort http://puu.sh/s52w5.jpg
00:56:098 (2) - i think it can more better shape at http://puu.sh/s52BM.jpg

Toybot's Extra

01:12:519 (7,8,1) - can u consistent ds
01:15:204 (1,2,3,4,5) - personnally want, http://puu.sh/s1oT3.jpg
since 01:14:256 (1,1,1,1) - white tick drum mapping, 01:15:362 (2) - red tick start slider
feel like downbeat.
01:28:941 (3,1) - hmm would be better if u try other thing for emphasis
00:56:098 - worthless thing, but idk why suddenly sv 0.6x here. lol

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-11-03T12:46:38+00:00

ProEzreal:
01:07:309 (1) - Is for the unique guitar sound (it's not that noticeable though) and I think it works great for that
for the second one: when you suggest slider changes with screenshots, please click on the slider to it shows the nodes
I got your suggestion though and changed it a bit!

Lami:
00:20:888 (1) - is intended to not continue pattern from before as there is a change in music
tried to improve the heart slider, should be nicer now

also increased od a bit because when I mapped this highest diff only had od8
+some other small things

thanks!

UpdatE

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Source:Re:LieF ～親愛なるあなたへ～
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Rieri

905 posts

Joined December 2014

Rieri 2016-11-03T21:54:12+00:00

Lasse wrote:
ProEzreal:
01:07:309 (1) - Is for the unique guitar sound (it's not that noticeable though) and I think it works great for that Yeah, I was never aware of that so I wanted to know what you were thinking when you made that so I can be aware in the future and so I don't make any false accusations XD
for the second one: when you suggest slider changes with screenshots, please click on the slider to it shows the nodes
I got your suggestion though and changed it a bit! Ugh my bad haha. I usually do that so when I saw the screenshot I gave you it felt like it was missing something rip lol

toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

toybot 2016-11-03T23:56:51+00:00

fixed all, thx! updated lasse diff too

Dailycare

Beatmap Nominator

1,071 posts

Joined May 2012

Dailycare 2016-11-04T01:46:18+00:00

[General]
*Make sure both Widescreen support and Letterbox during breaks of all diffs. I think unchecking them will be better.

[Ai]
*00:31:309 (2) - What about moving it to (202, 193) for DS?
*00:59:019 (2) - Is this circle necessary? I think it sounds a bit unnatural

[Lasse's Ex:TrA]
*00:32:256 (1) - For emphasizing, what about increasing the distance like the Xexxar's diff? Try this?
*00:48:993 (2,3) - I just want the notes continue naturally like this.
*00:57:204 (1) - I think the ctrl+g'ed one would be better for flow
*01:10:151 (1,2,3,4,1) - just opinnion, what about something curved like this?? cuz you used many curved slider so lol

[Kanau's Insane]
*00:54:677 (6) - Did you intend the whistle sound on the body?

[Anxient's Hard]
*00:20:256 (1) - Why did you use ds x2.0? Isn't it excessive?
*00:41:098 (1) - same issue as above. I think there's no reason to make the spacing
*01:07:941 (2) - Could you move it a bit up for better flow?

I Must Decrease

908 posts

Joined June 2013

I Must Decrease 2016-11-04T05:53:34+00:00

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: re tryment.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 56888
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 12046,22151,42362,61941
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.3

[Metadata]
Title:Re:TrymenT
TitleUnicode:Re:TrymenT
Artist:Hotaru Murasaki
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
Creator:toybot
Version:Xexxar's Ex:TremE
Source:Re:LieF ～親愛なるあなたへ～
Tags:eroge visual novel relief Shin'ainaru Anata e レリーフ DeaR YoU retryment miu yuu game op rask opening Anxient Kanau Mamayu fuyuyu- Lasse Xexxar
BeatmapID:1119127
BeatmapSetID:517706

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8.8
ApproachRate:9.3
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smh fam its 5.55* now

buffed OD to 8.8 to meme toybot

also tfw no mods from everyone else thanks guys

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-11-06T00:24:25+00:00

Dailycare

Dailycare wrote:
[General]
*Make sure both Widescreen support and Letterbox during breaks of all diffs. I think unchecking them will be better.
doesn't make any difference cause map has no sb or breaks, so having them inconsistent is fine

[Lasse's Ex:TrA]
*00:32:256 (1) - For emphasizing, what about increasing the distance like the Xexxar's diff? Try this? think the way it is patterned gives enough emphasis and it just looks much better/fits structure better
*00:48:993 (2,3) - I just want the notes continue naturally like this. took me a moment to get what you want me to change here, but I think I improved it a bit
*00:57:204 (1) - I think the ctrl+g'ed one would be better for flow makes the spacing of 00:57:204 (1,2) - too close since they will be played like circles + current has nicer visual flow
*01:10:151 (1,2,3,4,1) - just opinnion, what about something curved like this?? cuz you used many curved slider so lol yeah, but I think that makes it stand out really well and also, star pattern is just too cute http://lasse.s-ul.eu/Ame3ZuIX

thanks!

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ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
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Source:Re:LieF ～親愛なるあなたへ～
Tags:eroge visual novel relief Shin'ainaru Anata e レリーフ DeaR YoU retryment miu yuu game op rask opening Anxient Kanau Mamayu fuyuyu- Lasse Xexxar
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beaw

632 posts

Joined July 2015

beaw 2016-11-06T00:25:33+00:00

How many times are you going to use the same "unique" slider omg
[Easy]
00:06:204 - there's nothing you can do about it but this is gonna throw everyone off lmao xd
00:25:309 (2,1) - okay nice
00:58:467 (2,1) - hnngghh they're touching

[Normal]
01:15:044 - This isn't snapped pls fix 4 ez rank

[Anxient's Hard]
00:28:467 (1,2,3,4) - Why not just put 2-3 in the same path as 4? ;w; Or make the angle from 1-23-4 more defined ;w;
00:29:730 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ..... This entire section..... is going clockwise..... can you please..... not..... (lmao are you mad at my number spam) no but seriously I am so fricking tilted because of this

[Kanau's Insane]
00:21:441 (2,3) - I'm triggered please move these to the right so it ends aesthetically -_-
00:42:362 - Uhhmmm idk how this is really a "mod" but the map picks up REALLY REALLY quickly from the beginning part. I'm not sure how you can really fix it but ;/ I just think that this part is considerably more difficult than it should be
00:57:993 (6,7,8) - Why is this a triplet there's nothing in the music that warrants iiiiit *skips away happily* byyeeee
01:03:046 (2,3,4) - Theeeeere is no triple here either <3 <3 <3 <3 *hums triplets* oops lol there's nothing here for me to hum my bad for humming a triplet

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2016-11-06T06:47:15+00:00

ai
00:15:677 (1,2) - i think swapping nc is a viable option here to help readability and emphasize the drums more
00:30:204 (2) - honestly the wave here could be smoother xD i think the zig zag is too sharp.
01:00:519 (2,3) - personally i think its important to have some additive hitsounds when you are overmapping like this, could try using some whistles.
01:02:256 (4,5,6,7) - 01:06:835 (2,3) - etc, ^
01:10:151 - i hear a feint cymbal crash here, could use a normal finish imo.
01:16:309 (1) - i think ctrl h follows the pattern better o-o

xexxar
00:15:993 (1,2,3) - why why why why why why why ;w; pls tell me it was a mistake and wasnt intended.
00:28:467 (7,8) - seems like ur following the feint percussions, but how come u skip them here? 00:28:941 - 00:29:572 -
00:33:519 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - 00:38:414 (5,6,7,1,2,3) - similar stuff ^
01:18:204 (4,5,6) - why dont u just turn this into a slider? 01:18:362 (5) - seems kinda overmapped and why do u want to kill the players' fingers lol.
01:21:204 (5,1,2) - suggestion here

SPOILER

no ending spinner?

lasse
00:27:204 (1,2) - a jump will be fitting here imo
00:41:414 (2,4,6) - shouldn't you have NC here? following your previous pattern
.. interesting diff, reminds me of https://osu.ppy.sh/s/221364
not really my cup of tea tho.

kanau
minor suggestion 00:44:888 (1,3) - i'd give this more spacing to make it more even with 00:44:888 (1,2) - :d

anxient
00:31:309 (5) - i thnk this is a more suitable spot for the NC?
00:59:414 - why skip the piano here? i think its something that stands out. besides, you don't skip it here 01:04:467 (3) -
01:19:151 (1) - imo the circle should be here 01:18:993 - lol

normal
00:18:835 (4) - i think moving it up a bit looks better ><

SPOILER

00:27:204 (1) - honestly its probably too late now, but dont you think a 1/2 repeat would fit nicely in these parts?
00:37:309 (1) - ^, etc
00:47:098 (7,1) - eh, can u move it over a bit? the fact that 7 overlaps both halves of 1 is bothering me so much lmao.

SPOILER

01:12:677 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i think this might be a bit too much..

easy
looking good

I Must Decrease

908 posts

Joined June 2013

I Must Decrease 2016-11-06T07:01:30+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
xexxar
00:15:993 (1,2,3) - why why why why why why why ;w; pls tell me it was a mistake and wasnt intended. fuck you i want to be edgy
00:28:467 (7,8) - seems like ur following the feint percussions, but how come u skip them here? 00:28:941 - 00:29:572 - vocal emphasis
00:33:519 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - 00:38:414 (5,6,7,1,2,3) - similar stuff ^
01:18:204 (4,5,6) - why dont u just turn this into a slider? 01:18:362 (5) - seems kinda overmapped and why do u want to kill the players' fingers lol. break em
01:21:204 (5,1,2) - suggestion here thank you ok
SPOILER
no ending spinner? fuck that it ruins the beauty of the ending

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Silky

766 posts

Joined October 2014

Silky 2016-11-06T08:30:12+00:00

fixed hitsounds and no change on Stingy's mod
fixed kibb's suggestion

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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Artist:Hotaru Murasaki
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
Creator:toybot
Version:Kanau's Insane
Source:Re:LieF ～親愛なるあなたへ～
Tags:eroge visual novel relief Shin'ainaru Anata e レリーフ DeaR YoU retryment miu yuu game op rask opening Anxient Kanau Mamayu fuyuyu- Lasse Xexxar
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Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-11-06T09:37:22+00:00

did the nc thing
don't think a jump is needed, whole part is very ds heay since I didn't even put jumps on some piano things, so putting on kicks doesn't really fit
thanks!

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Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2016-11-06T14:43:39+00:00

requested! sorry for late orz

easy

- 01:29:098 (2,3,1) - increased ds from 1.0 -> 1.1x intentional? i would just use everywhere 1.0 tho.
- 01:27:835 (1) - how about extending the slider to 01:28:783 - ? Currently 01:27:835 (1) - end hit on nothing ;w;

normal

- 01:17:414 (4,1) - maybe just me, but after intense part making a 1/1 stack is kinda bad decision tho, why not just space it?
- 01:03:362 (2) - i guess u don't need this beat, since u following here more vocal than drums.

anxient

- i would use ar 7.5 // the diff is not really hard to read with used ar 8
- 00:06:046 (1) - use 2 circles instead? you skipping really loud sound on 00:06:046 (1) - end ):

kanau

- 01:04:467 (3) - how about ctrl g it? it gives pretty nice emphasis on 01:04:783 (4) -
- 01:32:888 (1) - love this slider holy

lasse

- 00:20:888 (1) - clap is not nessesary here, drum sample is enough for this imo.

xexxar

- 01:11:098 (4,5,1) - this is sik as hell, why spaced so much? lol
- 00:15:993 (1,2,3) - i agree with kibb
- 00:48:362 (4) - how about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/s8qpz/023e4538b7.jpg

last diff is neat :3

shit mod sorry ;w; nice set overall

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2016-11-06T15:19:50+00:00

BlueberrySansy wrote:
Anxient's Hard

00:56:098 (4) - Move to X:266 Y:358? - nah. i need the emphasis.

01:22:467 (5) - I wonder if this is your intention to end the slider in a blue tick, but if it's not, make it end at 01:22:625 - it is

Liena wrote:
Anxient's Hard
01:07:309 (5) - remove and turn a single not? - ok
01:22:467 (5) - why not a 1/2? - bass feels strong imo?
01:27:677 (3,4) - maybe a little jump - naah. not a good time to place it since the song is chilling out + hard diff

gl

ProEzreal wrote:
Hard
00:42:204 - sound here, you should map this cuz this part was evidently following the instrumentals - i agree!
00:56:098 (4) - not sure why you emphasized this ONLY when the 2 circles before it had similar intensity. not only that, this tiny extra space which you call emphasizing seems really insignificant, if you're gonna emphasize, make sure we can tell that you did - buffed the last note's spacing. the reason why i only added jumps on that note was because this note has a finish (cymbals) rather than clap (snare). i feel like finish has more emphasis priority than claps.
00:56:256 (1) - seems too short, maybe map it with something other than a spinner - feels fine to me.
01:03:362 (2,3,1) - making a perfect triangle with the heads would be nice - same tbh
01:19:151 (1) - really awkward rhythm, I'd put it on 01:18:993 - stacked it instead to fix the emphasis issues. didnt move the circle tho.
01:32:967 (1) - spinner ends in a really awkward spot. its not the start of a new sound or the end, just smack right in the middle. I'd end it on 01:35:414 - same tbh

@Lami: all applied

Dailycare wrote:
[General]
*Make sure both Widescreen support and Letterbox during breaks of all diffs. I think unchecking them will be better. - gotcha

[Anxient's Hard]
*00:20:256 (1) - Why did you use ds x2.0? Isn't it excessive? - changed to 1.9x
*00:41:098 (1) - same issue as above. I think there's no reason to make the spacing - move [4] to stack with 1 for that emphasis fix.
*01:07:941 (2) - Could you move it a bit up for better flow? - wont change too much even if i applied it, maybe its unecesssary.

Stingy wrote:
[Anxient's Hard]
00:28:467 (1,2,3,4) - Why not just put 2-3 in the same path as 4? ;w; Or make the angle from 1-23-4 more defined ;w; - change position every time vocals change.
00:29:730 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ..... This entire section..... is going clockwise..... can you please..... not..... (lmao are you mad at my number spam) no but seriously I am so fricking tilted because of this - this aint illegal isnt it? its staying.

Kibbleru wrote:
anxient
00:31:309 (5) - i thnk this is a more suitable spot for the NC? - 00:31:151 - NC'd here instead coz thats where the patterns starts anyway :l
00:59:414 - why skip the piano here? i think its something that stands out. besides, you don't skip it here 01:04:467 (3) - im never going to forgive myself for this/
01:19:151 (1) - imo the circle should be here 01:18:993 - lol - i hope this doesnt cause spacing problems.

@Kalibe: keeping the Ar 8. ar 7.5 is just annoying to play yo. applied the second one tho.

huge mod! thanks guys~

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toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

toybot 2016-11-06T15:22:04+00:00

fixed all except 01:16:309 (1) - , i kinda redid the patterning here
updated diffs

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-11-06T16:06:02+00:00

Kalibe wrote:
lasse

- 00:20:888 (1) - clap is not nessesary here, drum sample is enough for this imo. true, idk how it ended up there

thanks Kalibe!

just remove the clap for me, guess that's easier than sending the whole diff again

Naxess

Nomination Assessment Team

390 posts

Joined March 2016

Naxess 2016-11-06T17:35:00+00:00

From Xexxar's request to mod their map

General

Tags
1. 甘利紗陽 Saya Amari (lyrics, composer, seen here)
2. オープニングムービー movie ("opening movie", official youtube video, also seen here, but without ムービー)
"FIRST PRODUCT" seems to be mentioned all over, may be of relevance.
Would be funny if the lower difficulties also followed the CaptializatioN ThaT TheY HavE AlL OveR TheiR HomE PagE AnD TwitteR, just look at this lol
Video offset looks slightly late compared to the official video. It's supposed to transition at 00:10:783 - 00:11:256 - 00:11:730 - 00:12:046 - , for reference. I'd suggest you turn on the video in the editor and play at 50% speed and adjust it until it's correct.

Xexxar's Ex:TremE

The map doesn't seem to have any breaks, so whether letterboxing is on or off does literally nothing, but you might as well disable it so people can't complain about it. If you want to intentionally have it like this, I'd say enable widescreen support as well just for the sake of it lmao

Hit Objects

00:12:519 - The gap here doesn't really reflect what the song is doing. Having a 1/1 gap between notes like at 00:15:677 (6) - would be fine, but it wouldn't give the same effect here. Initiating a section with an overall higher density and then almost instantly having a 1/1 gap feels kind of odd. Consider filling this space and keeping the gaps consistently 1/2 in this new section, as contrast to the paino part, where time gaps were larger. I'd suggest something like this, in which case the rhythm would be recurring at 00:15:046 - 00:17:572 - 00:18:835 - .
01:02:256 (3) - I'd have defined the curve of this slider a bit more.
^ 01:04:783 (3) -
Overall I feel like some parts of the map are using spacing a bit inconsistently. Don't get me wrong, the spacing in the beginning works great, but I feel like some sounds should always have consistently large spacing as to reflect the song. For example if we look at 00:02:888 (3,1) - and then compare it to 00:07:941 (3,1) - , we'll notice that the first was spaced a lot more. I'll try pointing some of these out.
00:08:256 (1,2) - Consider rotating these by about 90 degrees and moving them to form a triangle with 00:08:888 (1) - . This way the player will always be moving their cursor from one area of the screen to the next when the song goes from main piano to secondary. I'd also suggest you to remove the new combo from 00:08:888 (1) - , as 00:08:256 (1,2,1) - all sound relatively similar, unlike 00:09:204 (1) - , or well at least from my perspective.
00:33:362 (4,5,6) - Pretty sure this triangle can be larger in order to increase the distance between 00:33:362 (4,5) - in consistency with 00:23:256 (4,5) - and 00:25:783 (4,5) - .
00:41:572 (2,3) - Just want to point out that the distance here is larger than at 00:31:467 (2,3) - , happened to notice this while playing as I had to slow down faster the second time.
01:17:730 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The way this pattern reflects the song isn't really preferable in my opinion. I understand what you're trying to do here, but the way the motion from the previous stream remains the same isn't good. In terms of cursor speed it's almost as if nothing happened, when in reality the previous part and this sound very different in the song.
Regarding this I'd also like to mention that there are sounds in this section that would, arguably, deserve more emphasis than others. 01:18:204 (4) - is stronger than 01:18:362 (5) - , both vocally and instrumentally in the song, yet they're the same in the map. 01:20:414 - Similarly to how emphasis was skipped in the other example, this is weaker than 01:20:256 - , and as such I believe the map should also reflect this. But from looking at the way you're mapping things this isn't what you were going for though, so feel free to ignore this unless you're willing to remap this section.
01:22:783 - Try placing 4 circles here in a circular pattern instead, similarly to what you did at 01:20:256 (1,2,3,4) - .
^ 01:23:572 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - Same goes for this part and 01:21:204 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - . Gotta have that consistency. I'd also suggest this part to, instead of going upwards like 01:21:519 (1,2,3,4) - did, go downwards instead, as to reflect the, now decreasing instead of increasing, pitch of the piano.
Either way, keeping 01:23:572 (3,4,5,1) - as it is now would look very out of place in my opinion, as it's interactions with patterns around it seems to be lacking. If you applied the above suggestion, don't mind this. Firstly fix this triangle 01:23:572 (3,4,5) - . Secondly make sure 01:24:046 (1) - is curved in the same circular flow as 01:24:677 (2,3) - are, in consistency with 01:21:519 (1,2,3) - . But even then I wouldn't know why not just applying the above suggestion would be better. I know you're decreasing SV gradually, but there's no need to start here; I think 01:25:309 (1) - would be a lot more fitting as it's actually longer than a beat.

Hitsounds

00:04:941 - There are unused timing lines. Seems like they were used for keysounding, as their custom samplesets are changing, but they don't actually apply in this map.

I'm going to write a program that finds unused timing sections, sec.
done
these are useless, remove them
00:04:941 - 00:11:809 - 01:26:414 - 01:35:256 - 01:35:730 - 01:36:993 - 01:37:309 - 01:37:625 - 01:37:783 -
00:06:677 - The keysounding here doesn't sound right, use S:C4 instead, with normal addition.
00:14:098 - Might as well add a drum-finish here to match the song.
00:15:204 - Looks like drum sampleset is missing.
^ 00:46:467 -
^ 00:47:098 - with soft addition
^ 00:49:151 -
^ 00:50:414 -
^ 00:51:677 -
^ 00:52:151 - soft addition
^ 00:54:993 - soft ad
^ 00:58:783 -
^ 01:05:730 - soft
^ 01:06:835 -
^ 01:08:414 -
^ 01:09:046 -
^ 01:10:309 -
^ 01:11:572 -
00:18:204 (5,6) - Whistles would fit on these.
^ 00:21:362 (1,2) -
00:40:467 - Why is there a drum sampleset here but not on any other of the snares in this section? Refer to 00:36:677 - 00:35:414 - etc. Anyway, consider removing it and replacing it with a whistle instead for consistency with 00:40:941 - I guess.
00:41:414 (1,2) - Could potentially keysound these parts as well, whistles don't seem to fit too well, in my opinion. The only ones that would fit having whistles on would probably be 00:41:730 (3,4,5) - , as the song is suggesting something else here.
00:45:362 - Inconsistency in whistle pattern here, refer to 00:42:835 -
00:52:941 - Not sure this drum sampleset is supposed to be here.
00:53:019 (3,4) - Since there are whistles here there might as well also be whistles at 00:53:572 (6,7,1) - 00:54:914 (5,1) - etc.
01:23:888 - This addition doesn't do anything because there's nothing for it to apply on. Is this intentional? Otherwise you might as well remove it.
^ 01:34:309 -
^ 00:37:467 -
^ 00:43:309 -
^ 01:18:519 -

Good luck!

I Must Decrease

908 posts

Joined June 2013

I Must Decrease 2016-11-06T18:17:17+00:00

Naxess wrote:
From Xexxar's request to mod their map

General

Tags
甘利紗陽 Saya Amari (lyrics, composer, seen here)
オープニングムービー movie ("opening movie", official youtube video, also seen here, but without ムービー)
"FIRST PRODUCT" seems to be mentioned all over, may be of relevance. i mean its not really necessary, all it indicates is that this reoge is this companies first eroge (product)

Would be funny if the lower difficulties also followed the CaptializatioN ThaT TheY HavE AlL OveR TheiR HomE PagE AnD TwitteR, just look at this lol

Video offset looks slightly late compared to the official video. It's supposed to transition at 00:10:783 - 00:11:256 - 00:11:730 - 00:12:046 - , for reference. I'd suggest you turn on the video in the editor and play at 50% speed and adjust it until it's correct. ya change this to 1369 for all diffs toybot, my bad.

Xexxar's Ex:TremE

The map doesn't seem to have any breaks, so whether letterboxing is on or off does literally nothing, but you might as well disable it so people can't complain about it. If you want to intentionally have it like this, I'd say enable widescreen support as well just for the sake of it lmao

Hit Objects
00:12:519 - The gap here doesn't really reflect what the song is doing. Having a 1/1 gap between notes like at 00:15:677 (6) - would be fine, but it wouldn't give the same effect here. Initiating a section with an overall higher density and then almost instantly having a 1/1 gap feels kind of odd. Consider filling this space and keeping the gaps consistently 1/2 in this new section, as contrast to the paino part, where time gaps were larger. I'd suggest something like this, in which case the rhythm would be recurring at 00:15:046 - 00:17:572 - 00:18:835 - . this is fine, anti jump vs note from farther distance

01:02:256 (3) - I'd have defined the curve of this slider a bit more. adjusted slightly
^ 01:04:783 (3) -

Overall I feel like some parts of the map are using spacing a bit inconsistently. Don't get me wrong, the spacing in the beginning works great, but I feel like some sounds should always have consistently large spacing as to reflect the song. For example if we look at 00:02:888 (3,1) - and then compare it to 00:07:941 (3,1) - , we'll notice that the first was spaced a lot more. I'll try pointing some of these out. minor distance changes like this arent a huge deal, the notes are different in the second set so they have different spacing as well

00:08:256 (1,2) - Consider rotating these by about 90 degrees and moving them to form a triangle with 00:08:888 (1) - . This way the player will always be moving their cursor from one area of the screen to the next when the song goes from main piano to secondary. I'd also suggest you to remove the new combo from 00:08:888 (1) - , as 00:08:256 (1,2,1) - all sound relatively similar, unlike 00:09:204 (1) - , or well at least from my perspective. not really sure what you mean, i personally find this fine the way it is though

00:33:362 (4,5,6) - Pretty sure this triangle can be larger in order to increase the distance between 00:33:362 (4,5) - in consistency with 00:23:256 (4,5) - and 00:25:783 (4,5) - . fixed

00:41:572 (2,3) - Just want to point out that the distance here is larger than at 00:31:467 (2,3) - , happened to notice this while playing as I had to slow down faster the second time. fixed

01:17:730 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The way this pattern reflects the song isn't really preferable in my opinion. I understand what you're trying to do here, but the way the motion from the previous stream remains the same isn't good. In terms of cursor speed it's almost as if nothing happened, when in reality the previous part and this sound very different in the song. adjusted. but not in the way you want

Regarding this I'd also like to mention that there are sounds in this section that would, arguably, deserve more emphasis than others. 01:18:204 (4) - is stronger than 01:18:362 (5) - , both vocally and instrumentally in the song, yet they're the same in the map. 01:20:414 - Similarly to how emphasis was skipped in the other example, this is weaker than 01:20:256 - , and as such I believe the map should also reflect this. But from looking at the way you're mapping things this isn't what you were going for though, so feel free to ignore this unless you're willing to remap this section. nah im mapping for feeling

01:22:783 - Try placing 4 circles here in a circular pattern instead, similarly to what you did at 01:20:256 (1,2,3,4) - .
^ 01:23:572 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - Same goes for this part and 01:21:204 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - . Gotta have that consistency. I'd also suggest this part to, instead of going upwards like 01:21:519 (1,2,3,4) - did, go downwards instead, as to reflect the, now decreasing instead of increasing, pitch of the piano. the slider also gives off a more relaxed feeling, which is why its there

Either way, keeping 01:23:572 (3,4,5,1) - as it is now would look very out of place in my opinion, as it's interactions with patterns around it seems to be lacking. If you applied the above suggestion, don't mind this. Firstly fix this triangle 01:23:572 (3,4,5) - . Secondly make sure 01:24:046 (1) - is curved in the same circular flow as 01:24:677 (2,3) - are, in consistency with 01:21:519 (1,2,3) - . But even then I wouldn't know why not just applying the above suggestion would be better. I know you're decreasing SV gradually, but there's no need to start here; I think 01:25:309 (1) - would be a lot more fitting as it's actually longer than a beat. fixed the triangle

Hitsounds
00:04:941 - There are unused timing lines. Seems like they were used for keysounding, as their custom samplesets are changing, but they don't actually apply in this map.

I'm going to write a program that finds unused timing sections, sec.
done
these are useless, remove them
00:04:941 - 00:11:809 - 01:26:414 - 01:35:256 - 01:35:730 - 01:36:993 - 01:37:309 - 01:37:625 - 01:37:783 -

00:06:677 - The keysounding here doesn't sound right, use S:C4 instead, with normal addition. disagree

00:14:098 - Might as well add a drum-finish here to match the song. i dont want the slider end to have that intensity

00:15:204 - Looks like drum sampleset is missing.
^ 00:46:467 -
^ 00:47:098 - with soft addition
^ 00:49:151 -
^ 00:50:414 -
^ 00:51:677 -
^ 00:52:151 - soft addition
^ 00:54:993 - soft ad
^ 00:58:783 -
^ 01:05:730 - soft
^ 01:06:835 -
^ 01:08:414 -
^ 01:09:046 -
^ 01:10:309 -
^ 01:11:572 -

00:18:204 (5,6) - Whistles would fit on these.
^ 00:21:362 (1,2) -

00:40:467 - Why is there a drum sampleset here but not on any other of the snares in this section? Refer to 00:36:677 - 00:35:414 - etc. Anyway, consider removing it and replacing it with a whistle instead for consistency with 00:40:941 - I guess.

00:41:414 (1,2) - Could potentially keysound these parts as well, whistles don't seem to fit too well, in my opinion. The only ones that would fit having whistles on would probably be 00:41:730 (3,4,5) - , as the song is suggesting something else here. i might ask toybot to do this

00:45:362 - Inconsistency in whistle pattern here, refer to 00:42:835 -

00:52:941 - Not sure this drum sampleset is supposed to be here.

00:53:019 (3,4) - Since there are whistles here there might as well also be whistles at 00:53:572 (6,7,1) - 00:54:914 (5,1) - etc.

01:23:888 - This addition doesn't do anything because there's nothing for it to apply on. Is this intentional? Otherwise you might as well remove it.
^ 01:34:309 -
^ 00:37:467 -
^ 00:43:309 -
^ 01:18:519 -

applied everything else

Good luck!

please apply for bn

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Joined October 2014

Left 2016-11-06T18:59:11+00:00

Oh I made it as insane, idk it's enough to say 'light insane'
anyway 4.29, maybe good for your spread

Piano HS kills me @~@

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309,63,49941,6,0,L|145:78,1,152.999995330811,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
84,150,50414,1,0,0:0:0:0:
156,224,50572,2,0,P|186:287|177:367,1,152.999995330811,8|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
336,367,51046,6,0,P|325:292|356:223,1,152.999995330811,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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356,223,51993,1,8,0:0:0:0:
473,86,52151,1,10,0:0:0:0:
205,25,52467,6,0,L|179:229,1,170,4|0,3:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
283,256,52941,1,0,3:0:0:0:
283,256,53019,1,2,0:0:0:0:
283,256,53098,2,0,P|333:257|395:222,1,85,2|0,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
183,193,53414,1,0,3:0:0:0:
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84,243,53651,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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321,159,54362,2,0,P|326:117|343:78,1,85,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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302,168,55625,5,8,0:0:0:0:
121,165,55783,1,8,0:0:0:0:
285,28,55941,5,8,0:0:0:0:
99,71,56098,1,4,1:1:0:0:
256,192,56177,12,4,56888,0:0:0:0:
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191,148,57993,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,216,58151,2,0,P|307:151|297:82,1,93.5000028533936,0|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
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103,271,58783,5,0,0:0:0:0:
103,271,58941,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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175,61,60046,6,0,P|260:91|381:71,1,187.000005706787,0|8,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
402,245,60519,1,0,0:0:0:0:
289,274,60677,2,0,L|301:151,1,93.5000028533936,0|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
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194,215,61309,5,0,3:0:0:0:
194,215,61467,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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320,124,63125,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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160,204,69835,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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321,36,73941,6,0,L|438:53,1,93.5000028533936,12|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
491,200,74256,2,0,P|416:217|369:213,1,93.5000028533936,8|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
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238,315,75046,1,0,3:0:0:0:
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98,216,75362,2,0,P|79:158|81:103,1,93.5000028533936,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
254,41,75677,2,0,L|254:160,1,93.5000028533936,2|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
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136,197,81362,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,78,82467,1,2,0:1:0:0:
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290,210,83730,2,0,L|284:266,1,42.5,2|0,0:1|0:3,0:0:0:0:
215,321,84046,2,0,P|147:332|118:331,2,85,2|2|2,0:0|0:1|0:3,0:0:0:0:
290,210,84993,1,2,0:0:0:0:
444,307,85309,6,0,P|464:214|460:130,1,170,2|2,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
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108,222,87519,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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499,270,90046,1,2,0:3:0:0:
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285,297,92572,1,0,0:0:0:0:
114,231,92888,6,0,P|90:315|90:368,2,127.5,2|2|2,0:0|0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,201,94151,2,0,P|267:137|246:77,2,127.5,2|2|2,0:3|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
114,231,95414,6,0,L|80:226,1,21.25,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:

Left's BG girl

http://puu.sh/s8Dy1/de6922b335.jpg

@Xexxar maybe you have to clean unnecessary green ticks :3

Sing

354 posts

Joined December 2013

Sing 2016-11-07T00:47:44+00:00

short mod for Left's Insane

00:30:993 (3) - think u shud just un-nc this since ur still following the vocals and just nc 00:31:625 (1) - for the piano
00:53:572 (6) - als othink u shud nc here instead of 00:53:730 (1) - for consistency since u NCed at those red ticks in the last part too
00:54:993 (5) - honestly same for kanau i feel like leaving this blank kinda ruins this part itd feel much better in the song to just have al ong slider on here or seomthign to fill the gap more like in the other diffs

thts it cuz everything else is like g lol

Beomsan

1,878 posts

Joined November 2013

Beomsan 2016-11-07T03:40:10+00:00

irc mod (left's diff)

12:17 Left: 범짱..
12:17 Left: 도와주세요..
12:18 Beomsan: 와이
12:18 *Left is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1124586 Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT [Left's Insane]]
12:18 Left: 간단하게 irc모딩부탁드림..
12:18 Left: 어제 합류했는데
12:18 Left: 혼자 모딩 0개여서 따라가야할듯
12:22 Beomsan: 플레이자체는깔끔해요
12:22 Beomsan: 전체적으로
12:22 Beomsan: 요즘 키음이 유행인가
12:22 Left: 최대한 클린하게 만든맵이니ㅋㅋ
12:23 Left: (겟난은 죽는다고)
12:23 Beomsan: 00:28:309 (3) - 이거균형이좀
12:24 Beomsan: 01:06:993 (1,2,3) - 
12:24 Beomsan: 01:06:362 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - 
12:24 Beomsan: 여기자체가좀
12:24 Beomsan: 묘하긴했네요
12:24 Beomsan: 왜그런진 아실거같고 아무래도
12:25 Left: 음 왜죠
12:25 Left: 안티점프는
12:25 Left: 깔린 드럼음 표현해볼려고 시도해봤습니다
12:25 Beomsan: 음
12:25 Beomsan: 안티점프랄까요
12:25 Beomsan: 안티점프의 단점 측면으로 생각해보면 오히려 문제없었고
12:26 Beomsan: 허허
12:26 Beomsan: 말로하려니어렵네
12:26 Left: ??
12:27 Beomsan: 아까 직접 쳐보니
12:27 Beomsan: 여기플로우자체가
12:27 Beomsan: 에러같네요저는
12:27 Beomsan: 드럼표현하신다고하셨는데
12:27 Beomsan: 01:07:309 (3) - 여기때문에 적어도 디스턴스가 다 똑같은건
12:27 Beomsan: 안좋은거같기도
12:28 Beomsan: 하구요
12:28 Beomsan: 근데 여기서 변화를 주려면 이렇게
12:28 Beomsan: 01:06:993 (1,2,3) - 일자 플로우는 절대로 삼가하셔야할거같음
12:28 Left: 음
12:28 Left: 굳이 변화를 줘야될 이유가..
12:28 Beomsan: 디스턴스 줄인거부터
12:28 Left: 저는 드럼음이 일정하게 강해지는걸로 들렸거든요
12:28 Beomsan: 변화를 준거같은데저는
12:28 Beomsan: ㅋㅋ..
12:29 Beomsan: 머잘모르겠으니
12:29 Beomsan: 그냥스킵 
12:29 Beomsan: 01:13:309 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - 
12:29 Beomsan: 이거는좀
12:29 Beomsan: 중요한문제에요
12:29 Beomsan: 그전은
12:29 Beomsan: 이유고
12:29 Beomsan: 01:15:204 (1,2) - 여기서 문제가 생겨버린건데
12:30 Beomsan: 01:15:204 (1) - 이거 노트로 쓴다고 쳐도 스택 절대로 안하는게 한 3만배는 낫다고 생각합니다
12:30 Left: 음
12:30 Left: 동일한 음이 나왔는데
12:30 Left: 인센에서 굳이 강조할만한 것도 없고..
12:31 Left: 디스턴스를 좀더 벌려보는 방향으론 해볼수 있겟네요
12:31 Beomsan: 저는솔직히
12:31 Beomsan: 슬라이더를
12:31 Beomsan: 01:15:204 - 여기서시작해서
12:31 Beomsan: 01:16:151 - 노트가
12:31 Beomsan: 여기와야하는게
12:31 Beomsan: 아닌가
12:31 Beomsan: 싶거든요
12:32 Beomsan: 01:13:309 (3,4,5,6) -  01:14:572 (3,4,5,6) - 다 흰틱에서 전환되는 정박
12:32 Beomsan: 01:15:204 - 여기에서 스택해버리니 인식이 안됨
12:34 Left: 음..
12:34 Left: 멜로디가 그쪽을 허용하고 있기 때문에 안될것도 없을거같고
12:34 Left: 타 난이도들도 스택말고 리듬쪽은 같네요
12:35 Beomsan: 그르네요
12:35 Beomsan: 그럼
12:35 Beomsan: 스택만좀
12:35 Beomsan: 어케하시면될듯
12:36 Beomsan: 딴건뭐없네요
12:36 Left: 음..고민해볼게요
12:36 Beomsan: 저거는
12:36 Beomsan: 히든걸고한번
12:36 Beomsan: 맵텟해달라고
12:36 Beomsan: 해보세요
12:36 Beomsan: 이 정도 난이도
12:36 Beomsan: 칠만한사람들한테
12:37 Left: ㅇㅋㅇㅋ 마침 보이네요
12:37 Left: 이거 로그 올리고 쿠도스 ㄱㄱ

gud luck

Garden

Nomination Assessment Team

1,343 posts

Joined June 2013

Garden 2016-11-07T04:52:24+00:00

with Left

2016-11-07 12:34 Left: hey :)
2016-11-07 12:35 Left: can I ask for short maptest now?
2016-11-07 12:35 Garden: sure
2016-11-07 12:36 Left: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1124586 Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT [Left's Insane]]
2016-11-07 12:36 Left: just short insane diff
2016-11-07 12:38 Left: lol ss
2016-11-07 12:38 Garden: lol ez
2016-11-07 12:39 Left: only for spread
2016-11-07 12:39 Garden: dunno how but i felt some keysounding appear suddenly
2016-11-07 12:40 Left: oh
2016-11-07 12:41 Garden:  like 00:41:414 (1,2,3,4) -  lol
2016-11-07 12:41 Left: maybe that's toybot's part
2016-11-07 12:41 Left: i felt same
2016-11-07 12:41 Garden: they are quite loud compared with general hitsounding
2016-11-07 12:42 Left: I didn't put that in first one
2016-11-07 12:42 Left: but toybot put them when adding tags
2016-11-07 12:42 Left: maybe some intention for him there
2016-11-07 12:42 Garden: yea u can talk with him about that
2016-11-07 12:43 Garden: 01:12:046 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -  bit intense for a light insane maybe
2016-11-07 12:44 Left: true
2016-11-07 12:44 Left: I
2016-11-07 12:44 Left: i'll fix first 4 note to kick slider
2016-11-07 12:48 Garden: 00:53:730 (1,2,3,4) - softaddition whistle on some of slider heads mayb
2016-11-07 12:49 Left: put it in all sliders?
2016-11-07 12:49 Garden: yea that also sounds nice imo
2016-11-07 12:49 Garden: probably all for me
2016-11-07 12:50 Left: lol thanks
2016-11-07 12:50 Left: put this log to forum :)
2016-11-07 12:50 Garden: ey ok

Left

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Left 2016-11-07T04:55:38+00:00

Sing wrote:
short mod for Left's Insane

00:30:993 (3) - think u shud just un-nc this since ur still following the vocals and just nc 00:31:625 (1) - for the piano hmm i think's it's enough to be emphasized by nc
00:53:572 (6) - als othink u shud nc here instead of 00:53:730 (1) - for consistency since u NCed at those red ticks in the last part too ..?
00:54:993 (5) - honestly same for kanau i feel like leaving this blank kinda ruins this part itd feel much better in the song to just have al ong slider on here or seomthign to fill the gap more like in the other diffs emphasis through putting nothing

thts it cuz everything else is like g lol

+Beomsan, Garden's IRC mod

thx for all mods!

Left's Insane

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@toybot 00:41:414 (1) - some opinion of here, sound is slightly big. Idk about hs, so can you check here once more?

Nathan

Beatmap Nominator

2,144 posts

Joined August 2014

Nathan 2016-11-12T19:20:04+00:00

[ai]

00:09:204 (4) - I think this piano note deserves to stand out a bit more; you put more emphasis on 00:08:888 (3) - despite it being lower pitch

[xexxar]

00:15:993 (1,2,3) - I hear why you spaced the triplet like this, but it's the only instance of it and every other 1/4 circle pattern is evenly spread out so this feels out of place imo
01:11:098 (4,5) - This feels a bit overboard compared to other similar patterns, even at the peak of the song. It plays fine with slider leniency but it threw me off sightread and I got a 100 on it, so consider reducing the spacing a bit

[lasse]

pretty sure this is hard enough for OD 8 at least
01:04:783 (4) - I don't hear a snare on the tail of this, why hitsound it?
01:35:414 (1) - I think it sounds better to silence the sliderticks in the 2nd half of this object
did you take inspiration from https://osu.ppy.sh/s/221364? just curious lol

[left]

01:13:625 (5,6,1) - It feels really underwhelming to use a wide angled movement for a cymbal crash, especially since you were using back and forths for the snares at 01:13:309 (3,5) - which are weaker
01:15:204 (1,2) - The snare on the tail of 2 is stronger than the kick on the head so you should flip the circle and slider in the timeline. If you want to keep the symmetry you can stack 01:15:204 (1) - over 01:15:677 (3) - or just place it somewhere along the y-axis
also 01:15:677 (3) - should be moved 2 units to the right to line up with the y-axis

nice set, gl

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-11-12T20:25:39+00:00

sukiNathan wrote:
[lasse]
pretty sure this is hard enough for OD 8 at least yeah, I set this backwhen higher diffs had lower od
01:04:783 (4) - I don't hear a snare on the tail of this, why hitsound it? idk where this came from, fixed
01:35:414 (1) - I think it sounds better to silence the sliderticks in the 2nd half of this object It was like that, but seems like it got messed up when toybot copied over hitsounds again after keysounding changes (?)
did you take inspiration from https://osu.ppy.sh/s/221364? just curious lol not hard to notice 👀 I wanted to try a similar style for a while now and it seemed to really fit this song

thanks!

@toybot: 01:16:783 - is this not having a whisle intentional? cause end + next slider all have it so it sounds kinda weird
also the last hitsound copying messed up all my silenced/reduced sliderends/ticks and other volume changes, but it should be fine again now.
just hope that won't happen again cause it's a bit annoying to fix :c

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TitleUnicode:Re:TrymenT
Artist:Hotaru Murasaki
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
Creator:toybot
Version:Lasse's Ex:TrA
Source:Re:LieF ～親愛なるあなたへ～
Tags:eroge visual novel relief 甘利紗陽 saya amari Shin'ainaru Anata e レリーフ DeaR YoU retryment miu yuu game op rask opening Anxient Kanau Mamayu fuyuyu- Lasse Xexxar Left
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toybot

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toybot 2016-11-12T21:09:33+00:00

aaaa damn, sorry about that. didn't notice ^^whistle wasn't intentional
fixed suggestion, thx!

Left

2,156 posts

Joined October 2014

Left 2016-11-13T09:04:22+00:00

sukiNathan wrote:
[left]
01:13:625 (5,6,1) - It feels really underwhelming to use a wide angled movement for a cymbal crash, especially since you were using back and forths for the snares at 01:13:309 (3,5) - which are weaker fixed
01:15:204 (1,2) - The snare on the tail of 2 is stronger than the kick on the head so you should flip the circle and slider in the timeline. If you want to keep the symmetry you can stack 01:15:204 (1) - over 01:15:677 (3) - or just place it somewhere along the y-axis I followed melody first, so no probem i think. instead i fixed pattern
also 01:15:677 (3) - should be moved 2 units to the right to line up with the y-axisrip me
nice set, gl

Thx for mod!

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Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2016-11-15T06:08:33+00:00

Ai

00:30:993 (3) - Stack
00:46:467 (2,3) - I would space them out just a bit more so that players have to move a bit in order to play them, instead of just clicking in place.
01:09:362 (2,3) - Larger jump here?
01:11:256 (4,1) - Here too, I think you should make the spacing like quite a bit bigger since right now, the spacing still feels around the same as earlier in the kiai. The way you space out 01:11:730 (2,3,4) - kinda hint that the patterns that follow will be bigger, but you could probably start this effect a bit earlier imo.
01:30:362 (1) - The circular part just looks slightly off. Try putting a circle in the center, and using the approach rate for reference

Xexxar

00:15:993 (1,2,3) - Hmm... Idk about this. I don't think theres enough circles for something like this to look nice aesthetically. Like, it fits the pitch, but i think just a simple triplet would have worked.
00:19:625 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Here though, I wish you used a larger spacing change increment. The effect you have is really smart, but the lack of significant spacing change makes it hard to appreciate.
00:31:309 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - This is good.
00:49:625 (3,4) - Not going to use a larger spacing or something for those added drums?
01:11:098 (4,5) - This just looks like a 1/2 jump, not a 1/4 jump. Place them closer together pls.

Lasse

00:11:730 (3) - I was expecting something at the bottom right of the screen here. It fits your design a lot better i think. You jump back to the head with every piano note from 00:09:519 (1,2,3,1,2) - so continue the pattern?

idk something

00:20:729 (4,1) - STacks are off
00:56:098 (2) - Nice
01:31:625 (1) - How about making the second half of the slider symmetrical? just cuz of its location atm

Kanau

OD 7.5 instead? OD 7 seems pretty low for the difficulty of this map.
01:13:941 (1,2,3) - I think you can space these sliders out a bit more, since you set up the previous circle jumps to be increasing in spacing. The sliders feel a bit easy atm.

Left

OD 7 is better.
00:32:256 (1,2) - Stack
00:39:835 (1) - This wave slider looks a bit uneven.
00:48:046 (3) - Make this perfectly symmetrical? Use the slider-ball as a reference

Anxient

00:40:467 (3,4,1) - I don't think an increased spacing here is necessary.
00:53:730 (1,2) - Linear slider flows like this just play really awkwardly imo.
00:56:256 (1) - I think this spinner is too short for Hard. You ahve to spin at like 400 just to get a 300. Auto gets only 1000 spinning at 477 so I think its better to use a slider or something here xP. I think the spin required to get 300 on this is too much for Hard players.

Normal

OD 4? or 4.5? OD 5 just seems really high for me.

Easy

AR 3.5 and OD like 3 or 2.5. Those settings are too high xP
00:06:993 (1,2) - Blanket

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Left

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Joined October 2014

Left 2016-11-15T06:17:52+00:00

All fixed thx for mod!

Left's Insane

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Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-11-15T07:35:49+00:00

didn't do the first thing cause I think that just doesn't look very nice and different placement works fine imo cause rhythm changes
other all applied
also removed clap at 01:03:125 (3) - cause it sounds kinda weird to me
and manually stacked 01:02:572 (1,2,3,4) - so playing with hr (which will obviously be pretty common on a map of this difficulty) doesn't ruin the pattern while looking the same nomod
thanks!

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 56888
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
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LetterboxInBreaks: 1
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[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 0.5
BeatDivisor: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:Re:TrymenT
TitleUnicode:Re:TrymenT
Artist:Hotaru Murasaki
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
Creator:toybot
Version:Lasse's Ex:TrA
Source:Re:LieF ～親愛なるあなたへ～
Tags:eroge visual novel relief 甘利紗陽 saya amari Shin'ainaru Anata e レリーフ DeaR YoU retryment miu yuu game op rask opening Anxient Kanau Mamayu fuyuyu- Lasse Xexxar Left
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BeatmapSetID:517706

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
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Silky

766 posts

Joined October 2014

Silky 2016-11-15T10:10:02+00:00

Kalibe Monstrata: umm... I keep it, I don't really like the appearance if I fixed it
toybot: could you increasing OD to 7.5 instead of me?

toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

toybot 2016-11-16T00:49:53+00:00

fixed all, thx!

I Must Decrease

908 posts

Joined June 2013

I Must Decrease 2016-11-16T00:51:20+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Xexxar

00:15:993 (1,2,3) - Hmm... Idk about this. I don't think theres enough circles for something like this to look nice aesthetically. Like, it fits the pitch, but i think just a simple triplet would have worked. i've stuck with this for every mod damn it im not changing it, I AM A FREE MAN
00:19:625 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Here though, I wish you used a larger spacing change increment. The effect you have is really smart, but the lack of significant spacing change makes it hard to appreciate. adjusted
00:31:309 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - This is good. sank u!
00:49:625 (3,4) - Not going to use a larger spacing or something for those added drums? adjusted
01:11:098 (4,5) - This just looks like a 1/2 jump, not a 1/4 jump. Place them closer together pls. i cant do this without destroying my pattern, for the difficulty level of this song i think this is perfectly readable and manageable

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