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Loved Community Vote: Round 1 (osu!)

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Please choose up to four (4) maps that you'd like to see enter the Loved listing.

Reol - +Danshi by Evening (http://osu.ppy.sh/s/165991)
1052
5.94%
aran - Graces of Heaven by rustbell (https://osu.ppy.sh/b/572525) [DEBUG DIFF. ONLY]
2178
12.29%
Ni-Sokkususu - Shukusai no Elementalia by Silynn (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/203309)
2252
12.71%
Jeff Williams - Red Like Roses part I & II by Kotayo (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/129314)
2827
15.95%
Nero vs After School - Sound In Motion vs AH (Fauxami Mashup) by galvenize (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/234646)
839
4.73%
DystopiaGround - AugoEidEs by Raikozen (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/346104)
2009
11.33%
Hanatan - Kagerou Variation by RLC (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/351629)
1003
5.66%
I See MONSTAS - Holdin' On (Skrillex and Nero Remix) by Blue Dragon (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/286145)
1839
10.38%
Silent Siren - Routine by Shapy (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/377921)
1693
9.55%
xi - Akasha by Jemmmmy (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/118768)
2033
11.47%
Total votes: 17725
Polling ended
Topic Starter
Ephemeral
Vote for your most desired osu!standard maps in this thread.

The top four maps chosen by popular vote from this list will enter the Loved category at the end of the voting, in exactly 3 days time from the date of this post.

Please read the round voting newspost for the full instructions of how this all works.
lcfc
holdin on o.o
Synchrostar
hello shukusai no elementalia silynn pls fix end part
Athrun
Oh boi
rock time
please add this to next week's poll ;~;
Zeptaxis
Link for Hanatan - Kagerou Variation is broken
cyprianz5
augoeides
Topic Starter
Ephemeral

Zeptaxis wrote:

Link for Hanatan - Kagerou Variation is broken
Added an addendum in OP, thanks.
Wojowu
That's too bad only Debug diff on Graces of Heaven is going for Loved, though of course I understand autofail isn't really acceptable (we'd have empty ranking then, lol). I wish the autofail bug was fixed.
Topic Starter
Ephemeral

Wojowu wrote:

That's too bad only Debug diff on Graces of Heaven is going for Loved, though of course I understand autofail isn't really acceptable (we'd have empty ranking then, lol). I wish the autofail bug was fixed.
If we had the autofail bug fixed, I'd be screaming TEWI-MA PARK at the top of my lungs in all the newsposts and polls instead of what they currently are.
Meme-san
Yass red like roses
DeletedUser_7520443
why can't akasha be ranked tho :c
DeletedUser_4329079

QuillGill wrote:

why can't akasha be ranked tho :c

Who said it can't

Also what happens if a map gets dropped out of the pools? Can it ever come back?
Topic Starter
Ephemeral

Default wrote:

QuillGill wrote:

why can't akasha be ranked tho :c

Who said it can't

Also what happens if a map gets dropped out of the pools? Can it ever come back?
It can come back, but probably not through voting. At least not the open-testing voting we're currently trialing out.
DeletedUser_7520443

Default wrote:

QuillGill wrote:

why can't akasha be ranked tho :c

Who said it can't
no one did i suppose, but i thought it couldn't since it's been going for rank for a few years now (and they haven't ranked it yet) and instead are going to love it (which was a category made for unrankable maps). but i suppose it's better than getting nothing at all on the map so i shouldn't complain
DeletedUser_4329079
Loved maps can still get ranked as long as they fulfill the ranking criteria if the mapper wants to, it's just that he's been mostly inactive for a long time.
Reddit
Glad to see the "If its not uncreative jump map #6,148,891,100 its garbage" mentality reflected in the votes. At first i was completely up for letting the community vote for what they want but since the majority of the community cant even play the maps they want loved, i feel that voting should be limited to a certain rank, (at least for standard) maybe 15k could be the cutoff? OR we could just love every map with a certain amount of favorites with no voting.
hallowatcher
KNEESOCKS
ryza
Is the graveyard a requirement for Loved status? Or am I free to update my map right now and if it wins the vote it's still eligible to be Loved?
Liiraye
Why is sound in motion in that list? IIRC galvenize is still trying to rank it?
Weed

Reddit wrote:

Glad to see the "If its not uncreative jump map #6,148,891,100 its garbage" mentality reflected in the votes. At first i was completely up for letting the community vote for what they want but since the majority of the community cant even play the maps they want loved, i feel that voting should be limited to a certain rank, (at least for standard) maybe 15k could be the cutoff? OR we could just love every map with a certain amount of favorites with no voting.
It's clearly what most people would find enjoyment from, a lot of players only play jump maps because that's what current mapping enforces. Although I agree, a Graces of Heaven leaderboard would be a lot cooler than a poorly made "ULTIMATE JUMPS XXXTREME RED LIKE ROSES" map. Why don't they just bundle in the 2 coolest maps with the 4 that win.
jesse1412
Some quick feedback already: this isnt a good representation of what people want, it's a representation of what everyone kind of wants. We should be able to pick maps in order of preference and have our preferences be weighted. I voted red like roses, but i 100000% don't want it as much as graces of heaven; yet my vote doesn't reflect that.
DeletedUser_4329079
I agree, I'd have voted graces of heaven more than once if I could.
Asda Meal Deal
id love to give all my votes to i see monstas :/
Reddit

Weed wrote:

It's clearly what most people would find enjoyment from
yeah I mean I enjoy watching other people play maps i cant pass too but that doesnt mean the voting results should reflect that.
Yusomi
Raikozen and Rustbell :D
dong

Liiraye wrote:

Why is sound in motion in that list? IIRC galvenize is still trying to rank it?
a map can still be updated and go for ranked while it is loved, it will just be moved from loved to qualified if i understand correctly
Froslass
it feels a bit unfair that my map is placed with some of the most wanted maps for a long time, and they're probably gonna get replaced with other extremely famous maps next poll (such as brain power or other 500+fav maps) while having no guarantee of coming back if it doesn't get voted like this

not like i have a better suggestion than what we have, but it still feels a bit sad that i'm gonna need to gather some votes so my map doesn't stay rotting in graveyard just because some of the other choices were better

also sad for the mania/taiko/ctb mappers which have even less of a chance
Kenshi_old_1
MY GOD WE NEED BRAIN POWER ON THIS ONE
Fezu

jesse1412 wrote:

Some quick feedback already: this isnt a good representation of what people want, it's a representation of what everyone kind of wants. We should be able to pick maps in order of preference and have our preferences be weighted. I voted red like roses, but i 100000% don't want it as much as graces of heaven; yet my vote doesn't reflect that.

Basically this, I think it will sort itself out once the most general known well loved non-ranked maps get through the cycle. At some point, there will be less known or more interesting maps that can get into the loved section.

However, yes right now it seems we have to deal with a lot of maps that EVERYBODY has an interest in getting into the loved section. Now, I for one hope one day to see https://osu.ppy.sh/s/294728 in loved. But, seeing as its' at least going to be upwards of 10+ more rounds before we enter unknown territory for Loved. It's going to take a while...

The only problem I have with this system is that voting in maps that are still WIP is counterproductive and makes no sense as they just take up slots for other maps that are not going for rank.

Though I do like this whole voting thing, it feels comfy.
Kiyohime
If a map drops out of the pool due to lack of votes, I definitely don't feel it should be indefinite. Maybe give it some time to cool off (like 2-3 polls), and then bring them back in and see if they fair better against different competition. With only two chances, it just doesn't seem right to axe a beatmap forever from being able to pass into Loved status via Voting.

Also as Jesse mentioned, a better way to show varying preference in the available choices. The ability to cast multiple votes out of the 4 for one map that was suggested earlier seems like a good place to start.
Secretpipe
"Nero vs After School - Sound In Motion vs AH (Fauxami Mashup) by galvenize"

>4%

Are you guys shittin' me?

cmon it DESERVES to be noticed loool
dong
how about all of the above
all of these maps are great
love all of them, what is stopping you

i am retarded
EnDy_S
I'm pretty sure the broken link affects how much votes that Hanatan beatmap gets which kinda sucks.
There are easily other 4 maps in the pool that people would be fairly satisfied with, not even checking out which one this beatmap is.
melloe
where is the option that lets me put all 4 of my votes into graces of heaven
Xexxar

EnDy_S wrote:

I'm pretty sure the broken link affects how much votes that Hanatan beatmap gets which kinda sucks.
There are easily other 4 maps in the pool that people would be fairly satisfied with, not even checking out which one this beatmap is.
yea kagerou is an amazing map, rip :(
DeletedUser_7520443

Xexxar wrote:

EnDy_S wrote:

I'm pretty sure the broken link affects how much votes that Hanatan beatmap gets which kinda sucks.
There are easily other 4 maps in the pool that people would be fairly satisfied with, not even checking out which one this beatmap is.
yea kagerou is an amazing map, rip :(
same honestly hope it has a comeback
(but srsly all the maps above are maps I want to see in the loved category why can't they all :( )
Spaghetti
sampling paradise when
Fezu
Yeah the idea of some maps not making it into Loved from the first poll and then having no second chances is ridiculous. Especially considering how tight its' between some of the maps right now.

There should be a cooldown period before they are brought back in again, I agree with. But, they shouldn't be indefinitely removed from a chance to get into Loved. Especially for maps that aren't WIP or have been decided upon by the mapper that it isn't worth ranking anymore.
Tomsonas
Milk Crown on Sonnetica by Len
edit: mb how do i delete
Yauxo
Im going to be really sad if Graces of Heaven doesnt make the cut. This map is basically made for this section.
Seto Kousuke
I love how people are destroying this vote akepkeaopea
Enkidu
graces of heaven must win
this1neguy

Secretpipe wrote:

"Nero vs After School - Sound In Motion vs AH (Fauxami Mashup) by galvenize"

>4%

Are you guys shittin' me?

cmon it DESERVES to be noticed loool
map should be ranked, not just loved. no idea why galv has never pushed it toward getting ranked honestly
Sheeto
VOTE FOR GRACE OF HEAVEN DANSGAME
yam_old_1
meme
Endaris

jesse1412 wrote:

Some quick feedback already: this isnt a good representation of what people want, it's a representation of what everyone kind of wants. We should be able to pick maps in order of preference and have our preferences be weighted. I voted red like roses, but i 100000% don't want it as much as graces of heaven; yet my vote doesn't reflect that.
Ha.
I only voted for graces of heaven to account for this.
Hishiro Chizuru
Where is jesse1412's best map in this vote wtf
Imakuri
where is centipede wtf
charburg
Out of curiosity, could Eighto be loved? The map wasn't uploaded by the creator and the creators are both banned, does this matter? Idk if this is the right place to say this, but, Eighto is iconic.
Fendon
Hoping for Graces of Heaven to make the cut!
dong

Imakuri wrote:

where is centipede wtf
i see no reason why centipede should have a leaderboard
Cubzy
I'm pretty sure RLR will be first and Augoeides will be second, or vice-versa
Bursthammy
yeah but real talk

maid-chan yori
Cubzy

charburg wrote:

Out of curiosity, could Eighto be loved? The map wasn't uploaded by the creator and the creators are both banned, does this matter? Idk if this is the right place to say this, but, Eighto is iconic.
But Aqo isn't banned :v
-Makishima S-
Ni-Sokkususu - Shukusai no Elementalia

/me want <3
fundamental
I think this voting system is pretty horrible. But we are still in the testing phases, so I presume you are still looking for feedback. This is the place to post feedback right...?. Anyway, So here is how I would have done it.

---Number of songs getting loved status each week is too low, 20 not 4.

When you initially showed this new feature off it was with 20 maps. And I think that worked really well. Personally I feel like it could be even a bit more, but 20 works. With only 4 maps a week, getting a loved map is looking to be super tough/ a rarity. Something that might take a lot of time to happen. ( Sounds a bit familiar? ) As for a player I was really excited for this but the drizzle “4 songs a week pace” just fizzled my hype out a bit.

---10 choices? How about we add a zero to that.

In the long run, hopefully this gets it’s own custom voting system. Because a 10 choice with no multiple vote for the same choice is very limiting.

So now with 20 maps getting in, we obviously need more choices. And I think 100 should be pretty easy. There are multiple lists already, with some having hundreds of suggestions. Not to mention many high level players who would have many great suggestions as well.

---Vote like a star~

Each person would have 10 votes, if they so choose they could put all ten in one song. To add on to that, kudos/star points can be used as extra votes. May have to put a limit on the star points (100?) , I don’t really know. But I think that would be a great way to reward those who help out with mapping.

---For those who didn’t make it.

This is where things get a little tough. I can see what you are trying to do with the “2 times and you’re out” thing. But the small pool of choice, and smaller pool of winners, it’s kinda harsh. Now with what I’m suggesting.

Once voting is done there will be 80 maps left. What do we do with these maps. Bottom 40 get removed. Can not be in the polls for 1(2?) week(s). The other higher 40 stay for the next poll. Of course this is just one idea, still trying to think of the best way to go about this.

---In the end

That of course goes for all of this. It’s all just an idea, but I hope you at least consider it. I feel like this could be something amazing if done right. I simply want to help anyway I can.

There are a lot of people who are excited about this, and a lot there are rightfully concerned. If you look online, you will probably see some bashing the idea already. I feel that most of it comes from them caring about osu! And the quality of the beatmaps getting exposure. I’m not an experienced mapper, nor am I a pro player. But I know there are many concerned about this that are. Be sure to listen and reach out to them, they probably have some great ideas too.

Keep up the great work and effort!

ps. sorry if this is not where to post this.
Fezu

charburg wrote:

Out of curiosity, could Eighto be loved? The map wasn't uploaded by the creator and the creators are both banned, does this matter? Idk if this is the right place to say this, but, Eighto is iconic.
Eighto has a possibility of being loved since there's no ruleset surrounding the creators' status. Aqo is unbanned and links to the Tom94 uploaded version on the web page anyways. So no, it shouldn't be problematic.

It will take a long time till Eighto gets picked. Since it's not heavily favorited like some other unranked maps.
xarathas
Can we make it so we can vote multiple times for one map?

I would vote for Graces of Heaven 4 times if I could, seeing how it doesn't quite make the cut right now is pretty disappointing to put it mildly.
Dre-
can we see the rank range voting for each map wouldn't be surprised if it was a bunch of people who can't even play the maps in the pool that are deciding this
fieryrage
if red like roses gets loved i'm going to be a staunch opponent against this system

in no way shape or form should that ever get loved, it's objectively a terrible map.
Anxient
its leading the rankings right now though.

...

...

...

im so sorry
Neto
C'mon guys Red Like Roses it's quite popular and the section it's for loved maps. You can't deny that lof of ppl find it funny. I didn't even vote on it. Just saying that even if it's objectively bad, people like and play it. So yeah, loved section fits.

Personally I'd love to see Danshi loved way more because of the fact that it's a full spread of 3 game modes. That opens the opportunity to all players enjoy this section, followed by Akasha, Shukusai no Elementalia and Sound In Motion vs AH, but it seems that voting direction its mainly focusing on extra diffs. It's open voting so I won't complain about it, but consider trying all of them out before voting :)
Fezu
The system is to determine the maps loved by the community. So, I don't see the problem here.
Yocake
Oh, go 4 it
Rayne Sylvania
Raikozen map @p@
Enon
some people seems didn't understand about this loved system.
Kiyohime

fieryrage wrote:

if red like roses gets loved i'm going to be a staunch opponent against this system

in no way shape or form should that ever get loved, it's objectively a terrible map.
That's literally the point of the Loved section though; the community likes it, therefore it goes into Loved. The Loved section isn't for judging flow/quality/aesthetics/etc/etc.

Does the mass of the community like the map? Yes? Done. Loved.
Jace

MyFaceYourFace wrote:

SPOILER
I think this voting system is pretty horrible. But we are still in the testing phases, so I presume you are still looking for feedback. This is the place to post feedback right...?. Anyway, So here is how I would have done it.

---Number of songs getting loved status each week is too low, 20 not 4.

When you initially showed this new feature off it was with 20 maps. And I think that worked really well. Personally I feel like it could be even a bit more, but 20 works. With only 4 maps a week, getting a loved map is looking to be super tough/ a rarity. Something that might take a lot of time to happen. ( Sounds a bit familiar? ) As for a player I was really excited for this but the drizzle “4 songs a week pace” just fizzled my hype out a bit.

---10 choices? How about we add a zero to that.

In the long run, hopefully this gets it’s own custom voting system. Because a 10 choice with no multiple vote for the same choice is very limiting.

So now with 20 maps getting in, we obviously need more choices. And I think 100 should be pretty easy. There are multiple lists already, with some having hundreds of suggestions. Not to mention many high level players who would have many great suggestions as well.

---Vote like a star~

Each person would have 10 votes, if they so choose they could put all ten in one song. To add on to that, kudos/star points can be used as extra votes. May have to put a limit on the star points (100?) , I don’t really know. But I think that would be a great way to reward those who help out with mapping.

---For those who didn’t make it.

This is where things get a little tough. I can see what you are trying to do with the “2 times and you’re out” thing. But the small pool of choice, and smaller pool of winners, it’s kinda harsh. Now with what I’m suggesting.

Once voting is done there will be 80 maps left. What do we do with these maps. Bottom 40 get removed. Can not be in the polls for 1(2?) week(s). The other higher 40 stay for the next poll. Of course this is just one idea, still trying to think of the best way to go about this.

---In the end

That of course goes for all of this. It’s all just an idea, but I hope you at least consider it. I feel like this could be something amazing if done right. I simply want to help anyway I can.

There are a lot of people who are excited about this, and a lot there are rightfully concerned. If you look online, you will probably see some bashing the idea already. I feel that most of it comes from them caring about osu! And the quality of the beatmaps getting exposure. I’m not an experienced mapper, nor am I a pro player. But I know there are many concerned about this that are. Be sure to listen and reach out to them, they probably have some great ideas too.

Keep up the great work and effort!

ps. sorry if this is not where to post this.
if people are already complaining about quality and we're only 20 in, it's insanely unrealistic to expect them to pump out 20 new maps for this category every week, while still keeping the quality high. you'd run out of good content for this category in like 3 weeks, and it would just decay to allowing anything that's hard and playable in. keep in mind this is a section for a select few of osu's most well known and appreciated unranked maps, not just so unranked maps can have a leaderboard to watch top players on.
batman98
ELEMENTALIA NOWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fieryrage

Kiyohime wrote:

fieryrage wrote:

if red like roses gets loved i'm going to be a staunch opponent against this system

in no way shape or form should that ever get loved, it's objectively a terrible map.
That's literally the point of the Loved section though; the community likes it, therefore it goes into Loved. The Loved section isn't for judging flow/quality/aesthetics/etc/etc.

Does the mass of the community like the map? Yes? Done. Loved.
it's pretty clear the mass of the community actually doesn't love the map i listed, but instead the people who can barely play it (or can't at all) voting for it.

and i again, i said objectively, as in the mp3 quality is shit, timing is off in several places, and other issues. if that kind of stuff is apparently "loved" material then alright, i guess.
Jatie

fieryrage wrote:

it's pretty clear the mass of the community actually doesn't love the map i listed, but instead the people who can barely play it (or can't at all) voting for it.

and i again, i said objectively, as in the mp3 quality is shit, timing is off in several places, and other issues. if that kind of stuff is apparently "loved" material then alright, i guess.
Red like roses is a fun map. That's what loved section should be. It is NOT qualified.
7ambda

fieryrage wrote:

it's pretty clear the mass of the community actually doesn't love the map i listed, but instead the people who can barely play it (or can't at all) voting for it.
If a lot of people like a map (even if it may not be the best quality-wise), then there's nothing wrong with that map getting loved, even if a majority of the community can't properly play it; that's the point of the loved system.

You may think the map doesn't deserve to be loved, but many others disagree. Don't forget that the people who can judge mapping quality well only represent a small portion of the community.
ithgyu

fieryrage wrote:

if red like roses gets loved i'm going to be a staunch opponent against this system

in no way shape or form should that ever get loved, it's objectively a terrible map.
The point of loved is to allow maps through even if they might be objectively bad. Its fun, I enjoy playing it, even if its obviously pretty bad.
Lagel

fieryrage wrote:

if red like roses gets loved i'm going to be a staunch opponent against this system

in no way shape or form should that ever get loved, it's objectively a terrible map.
Someone doesn't understand the point of this at all
Paranomic
Galaxy Collapse?
wws
elementalia please ;)
Dre-
so basicly if a bunch of people support something it justifys it? aight ISIS Hitler drugs and everything else anyone has EVER supported or agreeded / liked by a massive amount of people is alright. regardless of loved or not its horribly made and there are better maps that could be picked and its only getting picked because hurr durr jumps im 100k i like to play 7* its in bad taste theres nothing more to it. Honestly this community has such horrible taste in maps my god.
xxdeathx
all about that kneesocks
xarathas

Write wrote:

aight ISIS Hitler drugs and everything else anyone has EVER supported or agreeded / liked by a massive amount of people is alright
Quality analogy, you just compared what players want to have in a fun little video game to psychopathic mass murderers and genocide.

While I agree that a weighted (obviously not determined by rank because that's pretty dumb) voting system or something similar would be great, the way you make it seem like it's the next global crisis isn't exactly helping.
Jace

Write wrote:

so basicly if a bunch of people support something it justifys it? aight ISIS Hitler drugs and everything else anyone has EVER supported or agreeded / liked by a massive amount of people is alright. regardless of loved or not its horribly made and there are better maps that could be picked and its only getting picked because hurr durr jumps im 100k i like to play 7* its in bad taste theres nothing more to it. Honestly this community has such horrible taste in maps my god.
i don't like red like roses but if the majority wants it then who are you to complain? this isn't "Write's favorite maps" list, this is a community chosen list for iconic and well known unranked maps (red like roses is undeniably this). it's not like having it in is the end of the world, any other map you like that isn't getting chosen in this list will have a chance next week.

the map is pretty bad, but I don't think it should be a big deal to have it loved. it's clearly a well known map and the better maps in this collection that didn't make the cut will hopefully make it next week.
superlookie
holdin'on!!
Fezu
Because I'm bored and since the poll is not ascending or descending.

1. Red Like Roses Part 1 Part 2
2. Shukusai no Elementalia
3. Graces of Heaven
4. Akasha

So keep voting.
Supreme
Graces of heaven 10/10
Shige-Tora
deltaMAX is so unbelivable to Qualified.....
iamtheskrublord
Binchulu

RealSkullKid wrote:

maybe this could be loved:3
I believe this map is still trying to get ranked. Unless Fort dumped it
DeletedUser_7520443

mrkawaiikun wrote:

RealSkullKid wrote:

maybe this could be loved:3
I believe this map is still trying to get ranked. Unless Fort dumped it
nah fort peaced out on osu a few months ago, he hasn't mapped/updated any of his maps since

(this could also mean that we could love some other maps fort has created, such as this, this, this, this and as said earlier, this. and if fort does come back wanting to rank maps that have been loved, he still can so win win?)

(also, 7 hours left hype)
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