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Silky

Joined October 2014

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Silky 2016-10-09T05:59:46+00:00

@Momoka all fixed

Narcissu wrote:
BG use game CG*5 ???
I can't find this game's CG... gg

[Easy]
01:08:165 (4,1,2) - i know fix spacing is impossible but i don't know what should i say http://puu.sh/rCr5L/cdffa7945b.jpg
maybe improved that now xd

[Hard]
00:48:763 (1) - miss clap? like 00:52:676 (1,2) - …… but high diff without note here 00:48:845 - = =
yea deleted note
kiai a bit easy, without any successive note/SV change/jump …… it's same as 00:31:970 - and hardest part here 00:59:361 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - …… i suggest separate stack note like 01:05:231 (3,4) - , use more triplet 00:39:307 (4) - . ~~then player maybe miss FC in kiai~~
umm I know, but...

[Vivid]
00:11:100 - i find a useless green line, it's really hard (￣▽￣*)ゞ
lol fixed xd

thanks for modding!

changed BG because former BG was a bit NSFW

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2016-10-09T06:52:20+00:00

Vert

Vert wrote:
[K]
00:21:861 (2,3) - 距离有点大啊还好吧速度慢反应时间够
00:36:209 (2) - 不如就往上弯算了有道理
00:39:796 (1,2,3) - 这间距又突然变的很小也没必要大间距呀
为什么最后的转盘要停在蓝线上，不是很懂因为想跟主难度一样o.o

Garden

Garden wrote:
Karen's Insane

好久没有初见2位数ur了111
00:17:622 (1,2,3,4) - 2,3,4移动起来稍微有点强迫，考虑到3的位置固定或许可以试试ctrl-g 1,2 ctrl+g不错
00:36:209 (2,4) - 01:14:198 (2,3) - 我觉得要么blanket.. 现在放的就比较尴尬，不太清楚是不是打算包的状态包了包了
01:01:725 - 01:13:627 - silence 好
01:23:736 (5) - whistle或clap? 就这里空的 yes
01:24:633 (2,4) - 要不要一样形状可以
神mod

Momoka

Momoka wrote:
karen's insane
00:44:687 (1,2,3,1) - 00:48:600 (1,2,3,1) - maybe at least add hitsounds so it's not so awkward? sure
00:52:350 (3,4,5) - i kinda don't like this triplet flow :3 if you just stack them i think it plays better. yes
01:26:426 (6) - I think this should have more jump to it to emphasize. also you should delete the drum finish on the tail, because your rhythm isn't like kanau's here's a triple on the slider head so it's already emphasized i guess, i kinda don't like putting a jump with triples

Narcissu

Narcissu wrote:
[Karen's Insane]

[*]00:00:339 - 我肯定會和別的難度一樣加個圈，這樣看上去感情好一點那就感情好一点

[*]00:44:687 (1,2,3,1) - 00:48:600 (1,2,3) - 這個不是1/3 而且也不是一樣的，和00:44:687 (1,2,3,1) - 格式一樣的部分是偶數間隔的00:47:296 (5,1) - ，overmap 的話位置要選這裡。後面的drum 是1/2+1/4 这里snapping是有问题偶数间隔的地方明显不是1/3所以我不想放，这两处既有1/3也有1/4，放1/4很奇怪，1/3带过爽爽的，如果后面有人说我就改了

thanks for mods!

Kanau wrote:
changed BG because former BG was a bit NSFW

nsfw bg best bg xd

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Silky

766 posts

Joined October 2014

Topic Starter

Silky 2016-10-09T07:00:51+00:00

updated xd

zyoi

631 posts

Joined May 2014

zyoi 2016-10-09T09:36:07+00:00

[Easy&Vivid]

[Karen]
01:30:829 (2) - off-screen xd

Edit:

Hard
00:11:589 (2,3) - recommend this pattern

SPOILER

Normal
01:26:100 (5) - change to 1/2 reverse and remove 01:26:589 (1) - ?

Silky

766 posts

Joined October 2014

Topic Starter

Silky 2016-10-09T18:22:07+00:00

Enjoy wrote:
[Easy&Vivid]

fixed

Hard
00:11:589 (2,3) - recommend this pattern
SPOILER
uh I like follow vocal at there xd

Normal
01:26:100 (5) - change to 1/2 reverse and remove 01:26:589 (1) - ?
nice

arigato xd

@Karen
00:00:666 (2) - this mapset has SV bug... could you resnap and use x0.8 slider ?

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2016-10-11T06:57:52+00:00

fixed :3

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 62867
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.5
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 102323
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1.5

[Metadata]
Title:Natsukoi
TitleUnicode:ナツコイ
Artist:Duca
ArtistUnicode:Duca
Creator:Kanau
Version:Karen's Insane
Source:夏彩恋唄
Tags:eroge visual novel opening natsu iro koi uta fuyuyu mamayu Karen
BeatmapID:1100046
BeatmapSetID:517037

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3.8
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.7
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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Lasse

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Lasse 2016-10-11T10:09:16+00:00

p/5531312
and

metadata?
snapping the start of the spinner to 1/2 would be nicer for easy/normal so it doesn't appear so early

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vivid
00:07:676 (3) - movement into this just feels slightly weird (mainly visually) cause it is curved in the other direction, why not http://i.imgur.com/V4y3Yx1.jpg ?
00:11:915 (3) - because offbeat slider before this puts so much emphasis on vocals, making this into two circles would be nice as there are vocal on both ticks http://i.imgur.com/PyhsLOu.jpg
00:23:655 - there isn't much here musically, so somehow making it a sliderend would fit much better http://i.imgur.com/bNEGlMo.jpg the triples later have more audible drums on the first note so they work better
00:49:579 (2) - would move nc to this, that makes much more sense with the drums/vocals and the song, instead of random blue tick nc- or don't nc at all for consistency in this part and with things like 00:55:040 (5,6,7) -

01:01:481 (3) - if this is 3/4, why is 01:01:481 (3) - not? it's like the same sound and there is a noticeable guitar on 01:01:318 - so making both 1/2 works better anyways
if you keep it like this:
3/4 gap is completely unpredicatable here with this spacing, I hope you can do something about this, it's awful to play, should really have less spacing to be more predictable. example of what you could do: http://i.imgur.com/FGTyMLc.jpg

01:24:144 (1) - with how you use so many curved and a few straight sliders this kinda looks out of place lol. would make sense if music was really different, but..

01:34:742 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - feel like you could space this more if you wanted, intensity of guitars is pretty high
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karen
00:18:111 (4) - movement into this feels kinda awkward as sliderbody goes into such a different direction than cursor movement from before, maybe try http://i.imgur.com/kvPOBwL.jpg
00:23:655 (4,5,6) - same as highest diff
00:29:198 (7,1) - this kinda looks like you han an overmapped triple here and removed it later lol. spacing would definitely wotk much better with emphasis of the song here
00:44:687 (1,2,3) - I get what you want to do here, but I think it doesn't work very well. the 1/3 are so sudden as there are no other 1/3 rhythms and the sounds you mapped them too are so much weaker than the prominent 1/2 rhythm. but it makes00:48:600 (1,2,3) - work much better, so I'd be fine with giving it a chance
00:46:236 (5) - does this really need to be a triple?
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h
00:48:926 (2) - bit undermapped for a hard, why not http://i.imgur.com/xtbklKI.jpg ?
00:59:361 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - autostacking makes this patten really uneven, move 00:59:850 (4,5,6) - manually down/right more so it looks more like http://i.imgur.com/wQ7w46Z.jpg with stacking enabled
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n
00:02:622 (6,1,2,3,4,1) - rhythm is so dense here, but it's only the intro. think deleting 00:03:111 (1) - or 00:03:763 (3) - would be totally fine
01:12:731 (6) - can you not overlap head ansd tail so much?
01:20:720 (5,6) - ^

I hope you can consider using a bit more spacing for your next normals, as right now the objects overlap so much making it feel a bit cluimped. it's okay here, but something to consider for future maps. like somewhere from 1-1.1x ds would be great here
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e
00:21:535 - 01:02:296 - whole part doesn't have a single gap >1/1 in rhythm so people are pretty much constantly clicking things or holding down keys...
guess it is still okay since the tapping at least isn't very dense, but...
01:13:220 (5) - differenr rhythm that lets people click cymbal+vocal+ start of next section on 01:13:709 - would be great http://i.imgur.com/GVdQurN.jpg

seems fine overall

Silky

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Silky 2016-10-11T12:21:02+00:00

Lasse wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5531312
and

lol thanks karen

metadata?
snapping the start of the spinner to 1/2 would be nicer for easy/normal so it doesn't appear so early
ok
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vivid
00:07:676 (3) - movement into this just feels slightly weird (mainly visually) cause it is curved in the other direction, why not http://i.imgur.com/V4y3Yx1.jpg ?
fixed
00:11:915 (3) - because offbeat slider before this puts so much emphasis on vocals, making this into two circles would be nice as there are vocal on both ticks http://i.imgur.com/PyhsLOu.jpg
umm that is nice idea, but I can't replace them... sorry no change
00:23:655 - there isn't much here musically, so somehow making it a sliderend would fit much better http://i.imgur.com/bNEGlMo.jpg the triples later have more audible drums on the first note so they work better
....yes I know but I want to keep 00:22:676 (1,2,3) - this pattern to follow vocal
00:49:579 (2) - would move nc to this, that makes much more sense with the drums/vocals and the song, instead of random blue tick nc- or don't nc at all for consistency in this part and with things like 00:55:040 (5,6,7) -
I really don't like add multiple combo on one stack(that's why I did blue tick NC), so removed NC
01:01:481 (3) - if this is 3/4, why is 01:01:481 (3) - not? it's like the same sound and there is a noticeable guitar on 01:01:318 - so making both 1/2 works better anyways
if you keep it like this:
3/4 gap is completely unpredicatable here with this spacing, I hope you can do something about this, it's awful to play, should really have less spacing to be more predictable. example of what you could do: http://i.imgur.com/FGTyMLc.jpg
ok fixed its improved now imo

01:24:144 (1) - with how you use so many curved and a few straight sliders this kinda looks out of place lol. would make sense if music was really different, but..
because I used very curved slider at 01:24:633 - xd, and curved slider and straight slider is makes bad flow at there imo

01:34:742 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - feel like you could space this more if you wanted, intensity of guitars is pretty high
I want to make same difficulty as 00:19:089 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ~
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h
00:48:926 (2) - bit undermapped for a hard, why not http://i.imgur.com/xtbklKI.jpg ?
because there is 1/3 or 1/2, not 1/4(I mapped as 1/4 before, but I realized there is 1/3...)
00:59:361 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - autostacking makes this patten really uneven, move 00:59:850 (4,5,6) - manually down/right more so it looks more like http://i.imgur.com/wQ7w46Z.jpg with stacking enabled
I don't want to break ds... so changed rhythm, 3.4->3.33 LOL
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00:02:622 (6,1,2,3,4,1) - rhythm is so dense here, but it's only the intro. think deleting 00:03:111 (1) - or 00:03:763 (3) - would be totally fine
deleted 00:03:111 -
01:12:731 (6) - can you not overlap head ansd tail so much?
01:20:720 (5,6) - ^
both are fixed

I hope you can consider using a bit more spacing for your next normals, as right now the objects overlap so much making it feel a bit cluimped. it's okay here, but something to consider for future maps. like somewhere from 1-1.1x ds would be great here
yeah usually I'm using x1 ds on E/N, that was my mistake lol
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00:21:535 - 01:02:296 - whole part doesn't have a single gap >1/1 in rhythm so people are pretty much constantly clicking things or holding down keys...
guess it is still okay since the tapping at least isn't very dense, but...
umm I don't like use slider at there...
01:13:220 (5) - differenr rhythm that lets people click cymbal+vocal+ start of next section on 01:13:709 - would be great http://i.imgur.com/GVdQurN.jpg
are you god?

seems fine overall

this game has not been on sale yet

from op movie(fucking NSFW so I don't add video to this mapset xd)
romanized title based on this post. I think this song is same case as Himekoi.

thanks Lasse!

Karen

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Karen 2016-10-11T15:59:57+00:00

Lasse wrote:
karen
00:18:111 (4) - movement into this feels kinda awkward as sliderbody goes into such a different direction than cursor movement from before, maybe try http://i.imgur.com/kvPOBwL.jpg yes
00:23:655 (4,5,6) - same as highest diff hmm that would make the rhythm more complex and too hard, i want to keep it simple
00:29:198 (7,1) - this kinda looks like you han an overmapped triple here and removed it later lol. spacing would definitely wotk much better with emphasis of the song here ok
00:44:687 (1,2,3) - I get what you want to do here, but I think it doesn't work very well. the 1/3 are so sudden as there are no other 1/3 rhythms and the sounds you mapped them too are so much weaker than the prominent 1/2 rhythm. but it makes00:48:600 (1,2,3) - work much better, so I'd be fine with giving it a chance ok
00:46:236 (5) - does this really need to be a triple? i just feel it's cool to be a triple lol, the song supports it

thanks!

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Lasse

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Lasse 2016-10-11T16:15:21+00:00

Silky

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Silky 2016-10-11T16:21:25+00:00

thanks xd

Pentori

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Pentori 2016-10-15T10:16:50+00:00

hi

[General]
00:00:339 - why do u need the red timing point here? this is just anacrusis. and ur changing offset by +1 ms at 00:00:666 - which really isn't necessary..
i would remove the kiai flashes you have on easy/normal because they can be very distracting for newer players

[Easy]
00:54:796 - not sure why this is a clap. there isn't on in the music so a whistle would sound better imo

[Normal]
00:54:796 - remove clap, add whistle. same for rest of diffs

call me back
i will have to rebubble when you change timing

no kds btw

Silky

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Topic Starter

Silky 2016-10-15T10:32:49+00:00

fixed timing and removed 00:00:666 - and 01:37:187 - 's kiai
hitsound is no change, because there has no snare sound, but has hi-hat sound. I want to emphasizing this

Pentori

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Pentori 2016-10-15T10:38:14+00:00

rebub

Lasse

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Lasse 2016-10-15T10:45:55+00:00