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BlackYooh vs. siromaru - BLACK or WHITE? [Taiko]

posted 2016-09-04T11:20:36+00:00

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komasy

621 posts

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komasy 2016-09-29T11:36:40+00:00

Devli wrote:
hi~ modします

Kantan
00:38:251 and 00:40:846 add k？音に合わせて置いていいと思います
4/1がずっと続いちゃうのと、盛り上げる所で盛り上げるために密度の抑揚を付けたいのでkeep
01:45:711 delete and 01:45:386 - 01:45:711 add d？
deleted and added
01:51:873 add d? サビの一番熱い所だから少し密度有って良いと思われ
これなら許容範囲だと思ったのでadded
01:54:143 change to d 音程が01:54:467より低いため。跳ね上がる感じの方がプレイ感向上する気がします
changed

Futsuu
00:30:792 change to d and 00:31:440 add k
changed and added
00:39:224 add k and 00:39:548 change to d
added. でも全難易度通して縁オンリーのパートなのでno changed d
00:41:819 add k 普通なのでもっと詰めて大丈夫だと思います
added
01:11:332 - 01:11:494 - 01:11:657 change to d 01:49:602のパターンに合わせる感じ？
パターン化のためadded
01:11:981 change to k
^
01:52:846 - 01:54:143 change to d
直前のあべこべ配置、音の高低よりchanged
01:54:629 - 01:54:792 add k? 音に合わせてみては？
前者はadded

Muzukashii
特に有りません。良い譜面ですありがとうございます

Oni
01:08:008 add k
5連パターン化するためadded
01:23:251 add k and 01:23:413 add d
唐突なのでno add

01:53:008 change to d
changed
01:53:413 add d。ddk k k k k だと見た目もアレだし叩き辛いので
プレイ感上がったのでadded

Inner Oni
00:36:954 - 00:37:008 - 00:39:548 - 00:39:602 delete and 00:36:954 - 00:37:008 - 00:39:548 - 00:39:602 add d。
24分に違和感が合ったので。音合わせや拘りがあるなら変えなくて大丈夫だと思います
オルゴールへの音合わせのアプローチ。また全難易度を通して縁オンリーの物静かなパートなのでno change
00:38:251 change to d
全難易度を通して縁オンリーのパートなので統一したいのでno change
00:41:494 - 00:41:575 - 00:41:657 change to d。ここも全部kで収めたいなら変えなくて大丈夫です、あくまで僕の案です
^
以上

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“Good luck!

とても良いmodでした　modありがとうございました

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

Joined March 2015

_yu68 2016-09-29T13:38:36+00:00

こんにちは:3

mod

[General]
音量を変更する緑線についてです。
00:31:765 - のように、音量を変更したいノーツと同じ場所に緑線を引くと、本来のタイミングより早くノーツを叩いた場合に"音量が変更される前に打音が鳴る"といった状況になるため、本来意図した音量で鳴らない、という問題が起こります。なので、意図した音量で打音を鳴らすために音量を変更する緑線を適当な位置に移動、または追加してください。
・00:31:765 - move to 00:31:684 -
・00:42:143 - move to 00:42:062 - (or 00:41:981 - )
・00:52:494 - add greenline(90%) 00:52:116 - ここでもいいかも
・01:13:238 - add greenline(40%)
・01:21:062 - move to 01:20:981 -
・01:22:359 - move to 01:22:278 -
・01:23:657 - move to 01:23:575 -
・01:33:994 - add greenline(90%)
・01:54:792 - add greenline(20%)
上記に示した緑線の位置変更はInner Oniの譜面を基準に指摘しています。必要だと感じたならばdiffごとに適切な配置をそちらで判断してください。
ご存知でしたら失礼ですが緑線赤線は設定ウィンドウにてコピー/ペーストできます。他のdiffに同じタイミングセクションを移植したい場合にどうぞ。

[Kantan]
・change to HP8? ノーツ数が少ないのでもう少し上げても大丈夫かもしれません。
・00:17:170 - と 00:17:819 - まとめて1/1左にmove? 1/1をアクセントとするのに加えて、休符を4/1で確保すると叩きやすく、より特徴的な音が引き立つかもしれません。
・00:47:981 - add don? 00:42:143 - ここから 00:46:035 - ここの4ノーツで4小節なのでここで区切りを付けて、キリの良い場所から2/1を出すのはどうでしょうか。
・00:59:657 - change to kat, and 01:00:305 - change to don? 同じリズムが続くので、バリエーションを持たせるために1,1,2,2,...と続く配色を崩すのはどうでしょうか。
・01:05:819 - change to kat? 直前のdと比べて目立つ音なので、差を明確に付けられるかもしれません。
・01:38:575 - delete? ラスサビに入った瞬間から急に密度が上がるというのはKantan適正プレイヤーにとって易しくないかもしれません。4/1のbreakをより多く確保するためにどうでしょうか。特徴的な音が鳴っている部分は全て休符になってしまいますが、もとの譜面が2/1のシンプルなリズムでまとめられているので削除しても問題は無いと思います。

[Futsuu]
・00:15:873 - 00:16:035 - add kat? 特徴的な音が鳴っているので、1/2を混ぜた特徴的な配置が噛み合うかもしれません。私の好みですが
・00:20:738 - change to kat? パートの変わり目となる直後のdをより目立たせられるかもしれません。
・00:30:954 - add kat? 音がだんだん増えていく部分なので、合わせてノーツも増やすのはどうでしょうか。
・00:55:927 - delete? 曲の序盤では1/2が極端に少ないのに対し、サビでは2小節に1回の頻度で1/2が流れてくるので、初級者にとっては密度の緩急が激しく難しく感じてしまうかもしれません。
・01:01:116 - delete? 上記と同様の理由です。
・01:03:711 - move to 01:03:386 - , and change to kat? アクセントになる部分の直前なので、1/2の位置を変更することでパターンを崩すのはどうでしょうか。
・01:38:089 - 01:38:738 - delete? 密度を下げて緩急を滑らかにする目的と、1/3で鳴っている音を強調するためにどうでしょうか。

[Muzukashii]
・00:15:224 - change to kat? dkdk以外の1/2も登場させてあげたい(完全に私の個人的な好みです)
・00:55:602 - 00:55:684 - 00:55:765 - change to kat, and 00:58:197 - 00:58:278 - 00:58:359 - change to don? Muzukashiiにおいて1/4は特に目立つので、このパートでddd→ddd→kkk→kkkという順で1/4を出すよりはddd→kkk→ddd→kkkという順で出すと、より"飽き防止"に繋がるかもしれません。

[Oni]
・00:10:278 - add kat...? パターンから独立している+音が鳴っている+両端に1/1以上の休符が設けられているので9連打を出しても大丈夫...だと私はそう認識していますが、そこらへんがunrankbleかrankbleかとかの細かい知識が無いのでもしも変更するなら慎重に...
・00:11:494 - 00:12:143 - 00:12:792 - change to kat? 後ろで鳴っているキックの音を見ると、10111011,を基調とした配色よりは1111,を基調とした配色の方がプレイ感の向上に繋がるかもしれません。
・00:12:467 - change to don? 1/4の同じ配色が連続で多く流れてくる配置は、Oniプレイヤーにとっては少し退屈かもしれません。配色を少し崩すためにどうでしょうか。
・00:14:089 - 00:14:738 - change to kat? 後ろで鳴っているキック云々と同様の理由です。
・00:14:413 - change to don? 1/4の同じ配色云々と同様の理由です。
・01:28:413 - 01:28:738 - change to kat? 1/1の白線の直前のノーツをkにすることで叩きやすくなるかもしれません。

[Inner Oni]
agOnyにもどして(懇願) どちらかと言うとカスタムネームを使わない方がRankedには持っていきやすいと思いますがやっぱりカスタムネームで格好良くしたい
・00:00:711 - delete? 複合ラッシュとなる部分でも両端に1/2の間隔を持つ単発ノーツがあると、上級者にとっての休息となり叩きやすくなるかもしれません。
・00:03:305 - delete? 上記と同様の理由です。
・00:10:521 - 画像のように変更するのはどうでしょうか？特に高い1/4の音を全てkにする感じです。

・00:11:494 - 00:12:143 - 00:12:792 - change to kat? 後ろで鳴っているキックの音を見ると、10111011,を基調とした配色よりは1111,を基調とした配色の方がプレイ感の向上に繋がるかもしれません。
・00:16:413 - 00:16:467 - delete? 1/2の間隔を持つ単発ノーツがあると、上級者にとっての休息となり叩きやすくなるかもしれません。
・00:25:846 - change to kat? 1/3の開始点をより明確にでき、叩きやすくなるかもしれません。
・00:26:575 - この小節の偶数はxx_xxというリズムが表拍で始まっているのに対し、00:27:873 - この小節の偶数はxx_xxというリズムが裏拍で始まっており、何の音に合わせているか事前に知らされていないプレイヤーの視点からすると難解な配置に感じました。以下のように変更するのはどうでしょうか。
　・00:28:035 - move to 00:28:197 -
　・00:28:278 - delete
　・00:28:359 - change to don
　・00:28:684 - move to 00:28:521 -
　・00:28:765 - add kat
・00:44:657 - delete? このパートの1本目の複合が裏拍で終わっているので、2本目も同じように裏拍で終わらせると叩きやすいかもしれません。変更する場合は、両端に1/2の間隔を持った単発ノーツが同じ箇所に1つのみという状態を保つために 00:44:981 - にdを追加するのも良いと思います。
・00:47:251 - delete? 上記と同様の理由です。
・00:52:413 - 00:52:467 - change to kat? サビの1ノーツ目のdをより目立たせられるかもしれません。
・00:53:008 - 00:53:089 - change to kat? dkの割合を均等にする目的に加えて、00:55:602 - この部分と揃えるのはどうでしょうか。
・00:54:954 - 00:55:035 - change to kat? 直後の小節頭に置かれたdをより目立たせられるかもしれません。
・01:28:413 - 01:28:738 - change to kat? 1/1の白線の直前のノーツをkにすることで叩きやすくなるかもしれません。
・01:33:629 - change to kat? 01:33:711 - をより強調し、主旋律を引き立たせられるかもしれません。
・01:47:765 - change to kat? 1/2のリズムに沿った1/6の配色の方が叩きやすいと思います。

modは以上です。見てる最中に譜面変わってたみたいなので既に変更した部分がもしあれば無視してくださって結構です。
Ranked頑張ってください。

komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

komasy 2016-09-30T10:27:47+00:00

_yu68 wrote:
こんにちは:3
mod
[General]
音量を変更する緑線についてです。
00:31:765 - のように、音量を変更したいノーツと同じ場所に緑線を引くと、本来のタイミングより早くノーツを叩いた場合に"音量が変更される前に打音が鳴る"といった状況になるため、本来意図した音量で鳴らない、という問題が起こります。なので、意図した音量で打音を鳴らすために音量を変更する緑線を適当な位置に移動、または追加してください。
・00:31:765 - move to 00:31:684 -
・00:42:143 - move to 00:42:062 - (or 00:41:981 - )
・00:52:494 - add greenline(90%) 00:52:116 - ここでもいいかも
・01:13:238 - add greenline(40%)
・01:21:062 - move to 01:20:981 -
・01:22:359 - move to 01:22:278 -
・01:23:657 - move to 01:23:575 -
・01:33:994 - add greenline(90%)
・01:54:792 - add greenline(20%)
上記に示した緑線の位置変更はInner Oniの譜面を基準に指摘しています。必要だと感じたならばdiffごとに適切な配置をそちらで判断してください。
ご存知でしたら失礼ですが緑線赤線は設定ウィンドウにてコピー/ペーストできます。他のdiffに同じタイミングセクションを移植したい場合にどうぞ。
そのような細かい部分までありがとうございます・・・　全然気づきませんでした　すべて変更しました。
またコピペできる事実も知りませんでした　本当に参考になりました

[Kantan]
・change to HP8? ノーツ数が少ないのでもう少し上げても大丈夫かもしれません。
・00:17:170 - と 00:17:819 - まとめて1/1左にmove? 1/1をアクセントとするのに加えて、休符を4/1で確保すると叩きやすく、より特徴的な音が引き立つかもしれません。
changed
・00:47:981 - add don? 00:42:143 - ここから 00:46:035 - ここの4ノーツで4小節なのでここで区切りを付けて、キリの良い場所から2/1を出すのはどうでしょうか。
added
・00:59:657 - change to kat, and 01:00:305 - change to don? 同じリズムが続くので、バリエーションを持たせるために1,1,2,2,...と続く配色を崩すのはどうでしょうか。
changed
・01:05:819 - change to kat? 直前のdと比べて目立つ音なので、差を明確に付けられるかもしれません。
changed
・01:38:575 - delete? ラスサビに入った瞬間から急に密度が上がるというのはKantan適正プレイヤーにとって易しくないかもしれません。4/1のbreakをより多く確保するためにどうでしょうか。特徴的な音が鳴っている部分は全て休符になってしまいますが、もとの譜面が2/1のシンプルなリズムでまとめられているので削除しても問題は無いと思います。
他の方のmodでdeleted済

[Futsuu]
・00:15:873 - 00:16:035 - add kat? 特徴的な音が鳴っているので、1/2を混ぜた特徴的な配置が噛み合うかもしれません。私の好みですが
前者はadded.ここで1/2は唐突かなーと思いました
・00:20:738 - change to kat? パートの変わり目となる直後のdをより目立たせられるかもしれません。
changed
・00:30:954 - add kat? 音がだんだん増えていく部分なので、合わせてノーツも増やすのはどうでしょうか。
別の方のmodで、1/1でddkkdにしてるのでkeep
・00:55:927 - delete? 曲の序盤では1/2が極端に少ないのに対し、サビでは2小節に1回の頻度で1/2が流れてくるので、初級者にとっては密度の緩急が激しく難しく感じてしまうかもしれません。
keep.全て同じリズムの複合群で構成されており、1/2の配色はあべこべになっているので、許容範囲かなと思いましたが、他の方からも指摘を受けた場合は変更します
・01:01:116 - delete? 上記と同様の理由です。
^
・01:03:711 - move to 01:03:386 - , and change to kat? アクセントになる部分の直前なので、1/2の位置を変更することでパターンを崩すのはどうでしょうか。
上の提案を現在は保留しており、1/2が少し多めに流れてくる状態なので、全て同じリズム、同じ配色で叩き易くしたいのでno move.上の提案を他のModderの提案によって受け入れる場合はこちらもmoveします
・01:38:089 - 01:38:738 - delete? 密度を下げて緩急を滑らかにする目的と、1/3で鳴っている音を強調するためにどうでしょうか。
直前までのリズムパターンを考慮しつつ、この提案を受け入れたいので、前者はno delete 後者はdeleted

[Muzukashii]
・00:15:224 - change to kat? dkdk以外の1/2も登場させてあげたい(完全に私の個人的な好みです)
ここの4小節と次の4小節とで、譜面の複合パターンが区切られていて、無理に変える必要はないかなと思ったのでno change
・00:55:602 - 00:55:684 - 00:55:765 - change to kat, and 00:58:197 - 00:58:278 - 00:58:359 - change to don? Muzukashiiにおいて1/4は特に目立つので、このパートでddd→ddd→kkk→kkkという順で1/4を出すよりはddd→kkk→ddd→kkkという順で出すと、より"飽き防止"に繋がるかもしれません。
changed

[Oni]
・00:10:278 - add kat...? パターンから独立している+音が鳴っている+両端に1/1以上の休符が設けられているので9連打を出しても大丈夫...だと私はそう認識していますが、そこらへんがunrankbleかrankbleかとかの細かい知識が無いのでもしも変更するなら慎重に...
candy crack curtain callのOniでは左端1/1の休符が設けられていない+BPM240+特に独立していないので大丈夫だと判断したのでadded
・00:11:494 - 00:12:143 - 00:12:792 - change to kat? 後ろで鳴っているキックの音を見ると、1011101011,を基調とした配色よりは1111,を基調とした配色の方がプレイ感の向上に繋がるかもしれません。
changed
・00:12:467 - change to don? 1/4の同じ配色が連続で多く流れてくる配置は、Oniプレイヤーにとっては少し退屈かもしれません。配色を少し崩すためにどうでしょうか。
changed
・00:14:089 - 00:14:738 - change to kat? 後ろで鳴っているキック云々と同様の理由です。
changed
・00:14:413 - change to don? 1/4の同じ配色云々と同様の理由です。
changed
・01:28:413 - 01:28:738 - change to kat? 1/1の白線の直前のノーツをkにすることで叩きやすくなるかもしれません。
changed

[Inner Oni]
agOnyにもどして(懇願) どちらかと言うとカスタムネームを使わない方がRankedには持っていきやすいと思いますがやっぱりカスタムネームで格好良くしたい
・00:00:711 - delete? 複合ラッシュとなる部分でも両端に1/2の間隔を持つ単発ノーツがあると、上級者にとっての休息となり叩きやすくなるかもしれません。
deleted
・00:03:305 - delete? 上記と同様の理由です。
^
・00:10:521 - 画像のように変更するのはどうでしょうか？特に高い1/4の音を全てkにする感じです。

実はアップロードする前はこの画像の配置にしていました。しかし配色が…って思ったんですけど、やっぱりこっちの方が好きなのでchanged
・00:11:494 - 00:12:143 - 00:12:792 - change to kat? 後ろで鳴っているキックの音を見ると、1011101011,を基調とした配色よりは1111,を基調とした配色の方がプレイ感の向上に繋がるかもしれません。
kddにするとkkdの時になっている高音があまり引き立たないのでno change
・00:16:413 - 00:16:467 - delete? 1/2の間隔を持つ単発ノーツがあると、上級者にとっての休息となり叩きやすくなるかもしれません。
一瞬音が静かになっているのに1/6で埋め尽くすのもアレなのでdeleted
・00:25:846 - change to kat? 1/3の開始点をより明確にでき、叩きやすくなるかもしれません。
changed

・00:26:575 - この小節の偶数はxx_xxというリズムが表拍で始まっているのに対し、00:27:873 - この小節の偶数はxx_xxというリズムが裏拍で始まっており、何の音に合わせているか事前に知らされていないプレイヤーの視点からすると難解な配置に感じました。音からは外れる配置になりますが、以下のように変更するのはどうでしょうか。
　・00:28:035 - move to 00:28:197 -
　・00:28:278 - delete
　・00:28:359 - change to don
　・00:28:684 - move to 00:28:521 -
　・00:28:765 - add kat
これを参考に、裏拍で鳴っている高音にkを置きつつ、違和感のない難解ではない配置に変更しました

・00:44:657 - delete? このパートの1本目の複合が裏拍で終わっているので、2本目も同じように裏拍で終わらせると叩きやすいかもしれません。変更する場合は、両端に1/2の間隔を持った単発ノーツが同じ箇所に1つのみという状態を保つために 00:44:981 - にdを追加するのも良いと思います。
deleted and added
・00:47:251 - delete? 上記と同様の理由です。
deleted
・00:52:413 - 00:52:467 - change to kat? サビの1ノーツ目のdをより目立たせられるかもしれません。
ピアノの音程は下がっていってるので素直な配置にしたいです
・00:53:008 - 00:53:089 - change to kat? dkの割合を均等にする目的に加えて、00:55:602 - この部分と揃えるのはどうでしょうか。
changed
・00:54:954 - 00:55:035 - change to kat? 直後の小節頭に置かれたdをより目立たせられるかもしれません。
changed
・01:28:413 - 01:28:738 - change to kat? 1/1の白線の直前のノーツをkにすることで叩きやすくなるかもしれません。
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・01:33:629 - change to kat? 01:33:711 - をより強調し、主旋律を引き立たせられるかもしれません。
changed
・01:47:765 - change to kat? 1/2のリズムに沿った1/6の配色の方が叩きやすいと思います。
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modは以上です。見てる最中に譜面変わってたみたいなので既に変更した部分がもしあれば無視してくださって結構です。
Ranked頑張ってください。

とても参考になったModでした
本当にありがとうございました

nyanmi-1828

445 posts

Joined August 2015

nyanmi-1828 2016-09-30T15:10:09+00:00

IRC

modしてると母さんに殺されそうになるんですよね。

22:40 bjpe0810: こんばんは
22:40 bjpe0810: お時間ありますか？
22:40 nyanmi-1828: はい　大丈夫ですよー
22:40 nyanmi-1828: この前はすみません><
22:41 bjpe0810: こちらこそ本当に申し訳なかったです…
22:41 bjpe0810: Modしてもらう立場として失礼なことをしてしました…
22:41 nyanmi-1828: いえいえ
22:42 bjpe0810: 今IRCの続きをしていただいてもよろしいでしょうか・・・？
22:42 nyanmi-1828: 了解です(*`･ω･)ゞ
22:43 bjpe0810: ありがとうございます
22:44 nyanmi-1828: 00:07:846 - を 00:07:521 - ?
22:44 nyanmi-1828: with change d
22:44 nyanmi-1828: 前の1/4の位置と同じ感じにしてみるのもあり？
22:46 bjpe0810: こっちの方がパターン化図れて1/4も叩き易いと思ったのでchangeします
22:47 nyanmi-1828: 00:08:413 (43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) - finish多すぎぃ！
22:47 nyanmi-1828: あ　いつもの癖でホモネタ出してもた
22:47 nyanmi-1828: どこかけそう
22:47 bjpe0810: 僕もTwitterでは使うので大丈夫です
22:47 bjpe0810: ここ難しいですね
22:48 nyanmi-1828: 00:08:819 - ここにd置いて
22:48 nyanmi-1828: ほかのfinish全部削除？
22:50 bjpe0810: 00:08:981 - ここにd 置いて削除はどうですか？
22:50 nyanmi-1828: それだったら00:08:413 - にfinish置けそう
22:52 bjpe0810: これで凄い個人的にしっくりきました
22:52 nyanmi-1828: おお　良かった
22:52 bjpe0810: この発想はありませんでしたね…
22:52 bjpe0810: ありがとうございます
22:53 nyanmi-1828: (*´ω｀*)
22:54 nyanmi-1828: 00:10:684 (53) - 次のdより高い音+ピアノなのでkに変更?
22:55 bjpe0810: changed
22:57 nyanmi-1828: 00:39:224 (5) - d?低く聞こえました
22:58 nyanmi-1828: 00:40:197 (7,9) - も
22:59 bjpe0810: ここは全難易度統一縁で静かさを表現したいパートなのでno changeで行かせていただきたいと思います
23:00 nyanmi-1828: なるほど
23:01 nyanmi-1828: 00:49:116 - add d? パターン的に
23:02 bjpe0810: 良いですね…　add します
23:03 nyanmi-1828: 00:52:521 - サビのfinish多すg(ry
23:04 nyanmi-1828: Muzuなので00:52:521 (52,63,74,85,96,107,117) - は残してもいいと思います
23:07 bjpe0810: 等間隔でfinish置く感じですね　試してみます
23:09 nyanmi-1828: うーん
23:09 nyanmi-1828: 01:08:413 - ここの1/4帯むずく感じる
23:12 nyanmi-1828: 全部1/2で良さそう
23:12 nyanmi-1828: 01:08:494 (119,1,5,9) - Delete?
23:13 bjpe0810: finishの奴は提案通りにさせて頂きました
23:15 bjpe0810: そうですね、確かにOniからはいい感じに音抜き出来てるとはいえ、かんたんふつうから見ると急にノーツ増えすぎでした
23:17 nyanmi-1828: 01:11:657 - add d? 流れ的に1/2を奇数個ずつってかんじでおきたい
23:17 bjpe0810: 01:10:440 - ここだけは曲の方のパターンの終りということでアクセントで残しておいて他はdeleteします
23:18 bjpe0810: addしました　こっちの方が叩き易いですね
23:21 nyanmi-1828: http://puu.sh/rsVVE/a5887b8c78.jpg
23:21 nyanmi-1828: 01:27:873 - 
23:21 nyanmi-1828: ここから上の画像みたいにした方が
23:22 nyanmi-1828: あ
23:22 nyanmi-1828: やっぱやめ
23:23 nyanmi-1828: 01:27:873 - ここのkkkを1/3にしませんか？
23:23 nyanmi-1828: 1/4からいきなり1/3になるのはMuzuでは厳しそう
23:24 bjpe0810: こっちの方が音も取れてるし、叩き易いしで良さそうですね changed
23:25 nyanmi-1828: 01:30:711 - Delete? 1/4を消すことで逆にアクセントをつけられるかも
23:29 bjpe0810: 01:29:413 - 個人的にこっちdeleteして密度に流れを付けた方が違和感なさそうって感じました
23:30 nyanmi-1828: 01:29:413 - 01:30:062 - Delete、01:30:954 - add kはどうですか？
23:31 nyanmi-1828: ↑一回最初にもどしてから
23:33 bjpe0810: https://puu.sh/rsWsV/1472553a29.png
23:33 bjpe0810: How about?
23:34 nyanmi-1828: それ+01:30:954 - d?
23:37 bjpe0810: https://puu.sh/rsWzD/9ddcfec1ce.png
23:37 bjpe0810: これとかどうですか？徐々に密度上げ+最後の複合群は直前のddkddに肉付けした形になっている
23:38 nyanmi-1828: おお　良さそう
23:38 bjpe0810: これしっくり来たのでこれでいこうかなと思います～
23:38 nyanmi-1828: おｋっす
23:39 nyanmi-1828: 01:33:792 - move to 01:33:467 +01:33:873 - Delete?
23:39 nyanmi-1828: +も含むなよURL
23:40 nyanmi-1828: 01:33:467 - 
23:40 nyanmi-1828: 01:33:873 - 
23:42 bjpe0810: パートの区切りもつけられて、休憩もつくいい配置ですね changed
23:44 bjpe0810: 01:33:711 - からなっている主旋律拾わない代わりに01:33:711 -　にadd finishでアプローチするっていうのはfinish続いて微妙ですかね？
23:44 nyanmi-1828: 01:35:494 (76,78) - Delete? 青線を使う配置だと1/4を使用しなくても難しく感じるので、
23:44 nyanmi-1828: うーん
23:45 nyanmi-1828: 音があまり大きくなかったりするので不自然だと思います
23:45 bjpe0810: 了解です
23:46 bjpe0810: deleteの部分ですが、ちょっとkeepでお願いしますm(__)m
23:46 nyanmi-1828: 了解です
23:48 nyanmi-1828: 01:36:629 - ここから1/2でk d d？
23:52 bjpe0810: changed
23:52 nyanmi-1828: 01:38:035 - add d?
23:53 nyanmi-1828: 01:54:251 - add d?
23:56 bjpe0810: 1/3長いと難しいかなーって思ってたんですけど、こまぎりにした方が逆に難しかったりしますか・・・？
23:57 nyanmi-1828: 自分は難しく感じますが…人にもよると思います
23:58 nyanmi-1828: こまぎりにすると音取りが微妙な感じになりそうってのもあるます
23:58 nyanmi-1828: あります
23:58 bjpe0810: ハネリズムの得手不得手で変わってきそうですね・・・
23:58 bjpe0810: 確かに普通に音取れば提案通りになりますので、一応addしておきますね！
23:59 nyanmi-1828: 了解でっす
23:59 nyanmi-1828: すいません　母さんに殺されそうなので今日はここまででいいですか？
00:00 bjpe0810: 了解です！
00:00 bjpe0810: 今日も本当にありがとうございました…！
00:00 bjpe0810: またお時間あるときによろしくお願いします
00:00 nyanmi-1828: いえいえ、こちらこぞお時間頂きありがとうです
00:00 nyanmi-1828: *こちらこそ
00:00 bjpe0810: お疲れ様でした
00:01 nyanmi-1828: またよろしくお願いします(・ω・)ﾉｼ

うわー！
どうか行かないで・・・（悲嘆）
あー！消しちゃった・・・
ウワァァァァァァ・・・（1速）
マアァァァァァァ・・・（2速）
KantanとFutsuuもしたのにlog消えちゃったぁぁぁああああ！！！
車掌「どうかぁ、しましたか？」
俺「はい！IRCのlogを消してす、しまったのですが！」
車掌「あ、それ後でほんじゃあ探しますから、あっと・・・車庫まで来てください。ね？
ちょっとも、大人しくしててくれる？（神の宣告）」
俺「ぁﾊﾝ・・・（ネイティブ）」
車掌「ね？他の人乗ってるから。」

この前はチャット来たのに気づかず数時間放置してしまいすみません。
多分OniとInnerもやりますのでお時間ありましたらよろしくですー

P.S. agOnyじゃなくてagOniでもいいと思った　ちょいもじって

yassu-

430 posts

Joined September 2015

yassu- 2016-09-30T15:29:53+00:00

hi~

General

・spleadは許容範囲内だけど、少し危ないかな…　特にfutsuuとmuzukashiiの差、今回はそれを踏まえたmodになりそう。

Kantan

・曲調が曲調なので積極的に音を取っていってもいいかも。配色もバラエティー性が少ないのが第一印象。
・00:10:684　add k　積極的に音取り
・00:23:332　change to d　and　00:23:657　add k　こっちのほうが合いそうです
・00:25:927(27,28)　change to k　^
・00:44:738(6,7)　Ctrl+G　音の高さから
・00:51:224　change to k　上のmodを参考にした場合kの配置が規則的になります。パターンを考えて
・00:52:197　add k　00:10:684の提案同様
・00:52:521～01:02:900　kantanではここがkiaiなのに割と密度薄い印象でしたが、Futsuuだといきなり密度高くなっています。どちらかに合わせたほうが良さそうですが、私はKantanの方を密度高くするのをお勧めします。(多分BNに指摘される)
・01:29:170(9,10,11,12,13,14)　move to 1/1←　and　01:28:197　delete　ここで裏の音をとると前の音取りから違和感が出てしまいます。
・01:30:792　change to k　上のmodを参考にした場合
・01:34:035　slider end point move to 1/1←　and　add D　Kantanではspinerとの間隔は1/1開ければ大丈夫だと思います。
・01:35:657　change to k　音合わせ
・01:41:170　change to k　^
・01:44:413　change to d　^　休憩から始まる配色はdからで統一したいですね
・01:45:386(31,32,33)　change to kdk　^
・01:47:332(36,37)　Ctrl+G　^
・01:50:575(41,42)　Ctrl+G　^

Futsuu

・00:17:819　move to 00:17:170　パターン的に
・00:18:143　change to k　^
・00:19:116　add k　^
・00:23:332　add dk(1/1)　and　00:26:251(51,52)　change to k　Kantanでのmodを参考にした場合、少しでもmuzukashiiとの差を詰めたいので
・00:27:224　change to k　and　00:27:873(57,58)　change to d　^
・00:52:197　delete finish　and　00:52:819　finish　裏から始まる大音符は適正だと叩きにくいので、それと　00:10:684パターン
・00:57:062　change to d　01:02:251と変化を取るため
・01:06:305　add d　配置パターンの統一と難易度差調整
・01:09:062　delete　さすがにここはいらないと思います。
・01:12:954　add k　kiaiラストなのでビルドアップと難易度差調整
・01:23:008　slider end point 1/1→　音に対して短すぎて違和感があります。
・01:25:602　add dk(1/1)　and　01:28:197　change to k　上記を参照
・01:42:143　add d　無難に、ここだけ2連なのが違和感
・01:45:548　move to 1/1←　こっちのほうが目立った音に合ってると思います
・01:53:008　add dd(1/2)　and　01:53:494(85,86,87)　change to k　kiai後半のビルドアップと難易度差調整

Muzukashii

・00:00:630~00:52:197　Kantan,Futsuuでは最初そんなに密度高くなくて展開もしっかりしていたのに、Muzukashiiでは難しい方に入る密度がいきなり最初から叩かされるのはかなりまずいです！全部とは言いませんが、必要の無い1/4を取り除いて密度を下げてください！(多分BNに指摘される)
・00:56:738　change to K　こっちのほうが合ってるかと
・00:59:332(81,82)　Ctrl+G　00:54:143パターン、音の変化は聞き取れないので合わせることを勧めます
・01:01:440　change to d　00:58:846の逆配色パターン
・01:09:386(3,7)　Ctrl+G　こっちのほうが合ってるかと
・01:11:819　add d　and　01:11:981　change to k　微妙な間隔が違和感あったので
・01:23:657~01:34:035　同様にKantan,Futsuuに比べて、Muzukashiiからいきなり難しくなりすぎです。Futsuuを密度高くするかMuzukashiiを密度低くするかは任せますが、難易度差を考えて各難易度ごと展開を把握しないとまずいです(多分BNに指摘される)
・01:38:575　Muzukashiiにしては難しすぎると思います。許容されるかどうか…　そこで一応配置、配色の提案です

・01:54:359　delete　難しいので

Oni

・muzukashiiでの難しさを意識したのか、これもまたOniでは難しい配置が出てきてます。Oniではちょっと許容されないであろう配置と難しいdk配色が心配。もう少し簡単な配置、簡単なdk配色にすることを勧めるかな
・休憩から裏で始まる所が多いです。Inner Oniみたいな感じになっちゃうので少し自重したほうが良いかも
・00:00:630~00:52:197　Muzukashiiを参照！
・00:52:440　delete　好みで
・01:01:278~01:02:575　ここは変化が必要です。Muzukashiiの音取りを参考にしてください
・01:22:359~01:34:035　Muzukashiiを参照！
・01:28:629(44,45)　delete　難しいです　
・01:37:927(112,118)　delete　ここの長い1/3はOniでは許容されないかもしれません
・01:52:035(65,66)　delete　さすがにここで休憩は必要だと思います
他にも書きたいところはあったのですが、一先ずこのくらいで。もしSRがかなり下がってしまったら、一番上の難易度と差が開きすぎてしまうことも考え新たにもう１diff追加という手もあります。(そうなったら多分Inner OniをagOnyに変えて、Inner Oniを新たに追加という形になります。Inner Oni作るのめんどいと思ったら誰かにGD依頼することも視野に)

Inner Oni

・inner oni以上では譜面の質が良けれさえすれば自由なmappingが許容されます。とりあえずここでは多分アドバイスくらいになっちゃうと思います。
・00:32:413~00:42:143　別に好みですが、kが繰り返し過ぎると、飽きがくる恐れがあるかもしれないです
・01:12:873(173,174)　Ctrl+G　and　01:13:197(178,1)　Ctrl+G　叩きやすさを考慮
・01:47:765　change to k　^

good luck~

Last edited by yassu- 2016-10-01T03:39:02+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

komasy 2016-09-30T16:25:41+00:00

nyanmi-1828 wrote:

IRC

modしてると母さんに殺されそうになるんですよね。

22:40 bjpe0810: こんばんは
22:40 bjpe0810: お時間ありますか？
22:40 nyanmi-1828: はい　大丈夫ですよー
22:40 nyanmi-1828: この前はすみません><
22:41 bjpe0810: こちらこそ本当に申し訳なかったです…
22:41 bjpe0810: Modしてもらう立場として失礼なことをしてしました…
22:41 nyanmi-1828: いえいえ
22:42 bjpe0810: 今IRCの続きをしていただいてもよろしいでしょうか・・・？
22:42 nyanmi-1828: 了解です(*`･ω･)ゞ
22:43 bjpe0810: ありがとうございます
22:44 nyanmi-1828: 00:07:846 - を 00:07:521 - ?
22:44 nyanmi-1828: with change d
22:44 nyanmi-1828: 前の1/4の位置と同じ感じにしてみるのもあり？
22:46 bjpe0810: こっちの方がパターン化図れて1/4も叩き易いと思ったのでchangeします
22:47 nyanmi-1828: 00:08:413 (43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) - finish多すぎぃ！
22:47 nyanmi-1828: あ　いつもの癖でホモネタ出してもた
22:47 nyanmi-1828: どこかけそう
22:47 bjpe0810: 僕もTwitterでは使うので大丈夫です
22:47 bjpe0810: ここ難しいですね
22:48 nyanmi-1828: 00:08:819 - ここにd置いて
22:48 nyanmi-1828: ほかのfinish全部削除？
22:50 bjpe0810: 00:08:981 - ここにd 置いて削除はどうですか？
22:50 nyanmi-1828: それだったら00:08:413 - にfinish置けそう
22:52 bjpe0810: これで凄い個人的にしっくりきました
22:52 nyanmi-1828: おお　良かった
22:52 bjpe0810: この発想はありませんでしたね…
22:52 bjpe0810: ありがとうございます
22:53 nyanmi-1828: (*´ω｀*)
22:54 nyanmi-1828: 00:10:684 (53) - 次のdより高い音+ピアノなのでkに変更?
22:55 bjpe0810: changed
22:57 nyanmi-1828: 00:39:224 (5) - d?低く聞こえました
22:58 nyanmi-1828: 00:40:197 (7,9) - も
22:59 bjpe0810: ここは全難易度統一縁で静かさを表現したいパートなのでno changeで行かせていただきたいと思います
23:00 nyanmi-1828: なるほど
23:01 nyanmi-1828: 00:49:116 - add d? パターン的に
23:02 bjpe0810: 良いですね…　add します
23:03 nyanmi-1828: 00:52:521 - サビのfinish多すg(ry
23:04 nyanmi-1828: Muzuなので00:52:521 (52,63,74,85,96,107,117) - は残してもいいと思います
23:07 bjpe0810: 等間隔でfinish置く感じですね　試してみます
23:09 nyanmi-1828: うーん
23:09 nyanmi-1828: 01:08:413 - ここの1/4帯むずく感じる
23:12 nyanmi-1828: 全部1/2で良さそう
23:12 nyanmi-1828: 01:08:494 (119,1,5,9) - Delete?
23:13 bjpe0810: finishの奴は提案通りにさせて頂きました
23:15 bjpe0810: そうですね、確かにOniからはいい感じに音抜き出来てるとはいえ、かんたんふつうから見ると急にノーツ増えすぎでした
23:17 nyanmi-1828: 01:11:657 - add d? 流れ的に1/2を奇数個ずつってかんじでおきたい
23:17 bjpe0810: 01:10:440 - ここだけは曲の方のパターンの終りということでアクセントで残しておいて他はdeleteします
23:18 bjpe0810: addしました　こっちの方が叩き易いですね
23:21 nyanmi-1828: http://puu.sh/rsVVE/a5887b8c78.jpg
23:21 nyanmi-1828: 01:27:873 - 
23:21 nyanmi-1828: ここから上の画像みたいにした方が
23:22 nyanmi-1828: あ
23:22 nyanmi-1828: やっぱやめ
23:23 nyanmi-1828: 01:27:873 - ここのkkkを1/3にしませんか？
23:23 nyanmi-1828: 1/4からいきなり1/3になるのはMuzuでは厳しそう
23:24 bjpe0810: こっちの方が音も取れてるし、叩き易いしで良さそうですね changed
23:25 nyanmi-1828: 01:30:711 - Delete? 1/4を消すことで逆にアクセントをつけられるかも
23:29 bjpe0810: 01:29:413 - 個人的にこっちdeleteして密度に流れを付けた方が違和感なさそうって感じました
23:30 nyanmi-1828: 01:29:413 - 01:30:062 - Delete、01:30:954 - add kはどうですか？
23:31 nyanmi-1828: ↑一回最初にもどしてから
23:33 bjpe0810: https://puu.sh/rsWsV/1472553a29.png
23:33 bjpe0810: How about?
23:34 nyanmi-1828: それ+01:30:954 - d?
23:37 bjpe0810: https://puu.sh/rsWzD/9ddcfec1ce.png
23:37 bjpe0810: これとかどうですか？徐々に密度上げ+最後の複合群は直前のddkddに肉付けした形になっている
23:38 nyanmi-1828: おお　良さそう
23:38 bjpe0810: これしっくり来たのでこれでいこうかなと思います～
23:38 nyanmi-1828: おｋっす
23:39 nyanmi-1828: 01:33:792 - move to 01:33:467 +01:33:873 - Delete?
23:39 nyanmi-1828: +も含むなよURL
23:40 nyanmi-1828: 01:33:467 - 
23:40 nyanmi-1828: 01:33:873 - 
23:42 bjpe0810: パートの区切りもつけられて、休憩もつくいい配置ですね changed
23:44 bjpe0810: 01:33:711 - からなっている主旋律拾わない代わりに01:33:711 -　にadd finishでアプローチするっていうのはfinish続いて微妙ですかね？
23:44 nyanmi-1828: 01:35:494 (76,78) - Delete? 青線を使う配置だと1/4を使用しなくても難しく感じるので、
23:44 nyanmi-1828: うーん
23:45 nyanmi-1828: 音があまり大きくなかったりするので不自然だと思います
23:45 bjpe0810: 了解です
23:46 bjpe0810: deleteの部分ですが、ちょっとkeepでお願いしますm(__)m
23:46 nyanmi-1828: 了解です
23:48 nyanmi-1828: 01:36:629 - ここから1/2でk d d？
23:52 bjpe0810: changed
23:52 nyanmi-1828: 01:38:035 - add d?
23:53 nyanmi-1828: 01:54:251 - add d?
23:56 bjpe0810: 1/3長いと難しいかなーって思ってたんですけど、こまぎりにした方が逆に難しかったりしますか・・・？
23:57 nyanmi-1828: 自分は難しく感じますが…人にもよると思います
23:58 nyanmi-1828: こまぎりにすると音取りが微妙な感じになりそうってのもあるます
23:58 nyanmi-1828: あります
23:58 bjpe0810: ハネリズムの得手不得手で変わってきそうですね・・・
23:58 bjpe0810: 確かに普通に音取れば提案通りになりますので、一応addしておきますね！
23:59 nyanmi-1828: 了解でっす
23:59 nyanmi-1828: すいません　母さんに殺されそうなので今日はここまででいいですか？
00:00 bjpe0810: 了解です！
00:00 bjpe0810: 今日も本当にありがとうございました…！
00:00 bjpe0810: またお時間あるときによろしくお願いします
00:00 nyanmi-1828: いえいえ、こちらこぞお時間頂きありがとうです
00:00 nyanmi-1828: *こちらこそ
00:00 bjpe0810: お疲れ様でした
00:01 nyanmi-1828: またよろしくお願いします(・ω・)ﾉｼ

IRCありがとうございます

こちらにlogありましたが、画像載せる方法の解説を頂いていた所と、エロゲして待ってましたっていう所しか残ってなかったです

nyanmi-1828

445 posts

Joined August 2015

nyanmi-1828 2016-09-30T23:08:58+00:00

エロゲだけ残ってたのは笑った

やっすーさんがInnerがなんとかとか言ってたのでInnerのGD作りたいです

Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,957 posts

Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2016-09-30T23:10:08+00:00

One of my favorite song ! I'm newbie in Taiko but it would be so cool to play it, go for rank <3

komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

komasy 2016-10-01T05:26:22+00:00

nyanmi-1828 wrote:
エロゲだけ残ってたのは笑った

やっすーさんがInnerがなんとかとか言ってたのでInnerのGD作りたいです

やっすーさんのModを適応した結果にもよりますが、もしInner必要になればGDお願いしてもいいですか…？

komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

komasy 2016-10-01T05:28:49+00:00

Pachiru wrote:
One of my favorite song ! I'm newbie in Taiko but it would be so cool to play it, go for rank <3

Thank you very much!
I try for rank hard!

nyanmi-1828

445 posts

Joined August 2015

nyanmi-1828 2016-10-01T06:25:56+00:00

bjpe0810 wrote:
nyanmi-1828 wrote:
エロゲだけ残ってたのは笑った

やっすーさんがInnerがなんとかとか言ってたのでInnerのGD作りたいです
やっすーさんのModを適応した結果にもよりますが、もしInner必要になればGDお願いしてもいいですか…？

やったぜ　もちろんやります

Smallwu

572 posts

Joined April 2013

Smallwu 2016-10-01T09:33:08+00:00

Hi, mod from my queue (M4M)

General

Oni and Inner Oni - Their difficulty gap is too big (2.31 Stars x_x)
Find another mapper to make a new Oni is a good choice (So the map will have two Oni, one Inner Oni)

Kantan

00:29:819 (32) - Move to 00:30:467 Follow the sound "Ding" like 00:26:575 . 00:27:873 . 00:29:170 and 00:30:467

00:30:467 (1) - Remove Because that's too strange. If you want Spinner, you should put at 00:31:765 (but I don't think that's good idea)

00:31:684 - Remove this green line, or move to 00:32:089

00:31:765 - Add D Here has drum sound, follow it

00:51:224 (12) - d Here no any big sound @w@ (also highlight 00:52:521 (1))

00:52:116 - Remove this green line, I think it hasn't any effect

01:13:238 - Remvoe this green line, I think it hasn't any effect, too

01:22:359 - Add k, I think you forget to add here

01:28:197 (8) - Move to 01:28:846 is more fit

01:33:994 - Remvoe this green line

01:45:711 (34) - k Because the sound same as 01:44:413 (31)

01:51:873 (45,46) - Ctrl+G

Futsuu

00:20:738 (43) - k To highlight 00:21:386 (44)

00:31:684 - Move this green line to 00:32:089 Because Finisher shouldn't quiet

00:52:521 (29) - D or K

01:05:819 (70,71,72) - D D K

01:06:792 (73,74,75,76) - k k k D

01:13:238 - Remvoe this green line, I think it hasn't any effect

01:33:994 - ^ ^

01:38:089 (40) - Remove this Because that sounds really strange X_X

01:53:494 (81,82,83) - k k k

01:54:629 (86) - Remove this

Muzukashii

00:06:143 (29,30,31,32,33,34) - kkk d d d To be Symmetry (and that sounds nice I think)

00:31:684 - Move this green line to 00:32:089 Because Finisher shouldn't quiet

00:51:224 (50) - d To highlight 00:52:197 (51)

01:05:819 (107,108,109,110,111) - D D D D K

01:13:238 - Remove this green line

01:33:994 - ^

01:43:765 (126,127,128,129) - k d d k Follow pitch

01:44:900 (131,132) - Ctrl+G ^

Oni

Skip because I'm lazy :3

Inner Oni

00:31:684 - Move this green line to 00:32:089 Because Finisher shouldn't quiet

01:04:927 (100) - Move to 01:05:008

01:13:238 - Remove this green line

01:33:994 - ^

01:47:765 (35) - k better I think

GL with Rank!

komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

komasy 2016-10-01T10:29:21+00:00

nyanmi-1828 wrote:
やったぜ　もちろんやります

Oni　と　Inner　の差が開きすぎたので、SR5.5程度のGDの制作をよろしくお願いします

komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

komasy 2016-10-01T10:34:17+00:00

yassu- wrote:
hi~
General
・spleadは許容範囲内だけど、少し危ないかな…　特にfutsuuとmuzukashiiの差、今回はそれを踏まえたmodになりそう。

Kantan
・曲調が曲調なので積極的に音を取っていってもいいかも。配色もバラエティー性が少ないのが第一印象。
・00:10:684　add k　積極的に音取り
added
・00:23:332　change to d　and　00:23:657　add k　こっちのほうが合いそうです
changed
・00:25:927(27,28)　change to k　^
他の方のModにより変更済み
・00:44:738(6,7)　Ctrl+G　音の高さから
他の方のModにより変更済み
・00:51:224　change to k　上のmodを参考にした場合kの配置が規則的になります。パターンを考えて
changed
・00:52:197　add k　00:10:684の提案同様
added
・00:52:521～01:02:900　kantanではここがkiaiなのに割と密度薄い印象でしたが、Futsuuだといきなり密度高くなっています。どちらかに合わせたほうが良さそうですが、私はKantanの方を密度高くするのをお勧めします。(多分BNに指摘される)
自分なりに密度を高めました
・01:29:170(9,10,11,12,13,14)　move to 1/1←　and　01:28:197　delete　ここで裏の音をとると前の音取りから違和感が出てしまいます。
moved and deleted
・01:30:792　change to k　上のmodを参考にした場合
changed
・01:34:035　slider end point move to 1/1←　and　add D　Kantanではspinerとの間隔は1/1開ければ大丈夫だと思います。
changed
・01:35:657　change to k　音合わせ
changed
・01:41:170　change to k　^
changed
・01:44:413　change to d　^　休憩から始まる配色はdからで統一したいですね
changed
・01:45:386(31,32,33)　change to kdk　^
changed
・01:47:332(36,37)　Ctrl+G　^
他の方のModにより変更済み
・01:50:575(41,42)　Ctrl+G　^
他の方のModにより変更済み

Futsuu
・00:17:819　move to 00:17:170　パターン的に
moved

・00:18:143　change to k　^
changed
・00:19:116　add k　^
added
・00:23:332　add dk(1/1)　and　00:26:251(51,52)　change to k　Kantanでのmodを参考にした場合、少しでもmuzukashiiとの差を詰めたいので
added
・00:27:224　change to k　and　00:27:873(57,58)　change to d　^
changed
・00:52:197　delete finish　and　00:52:819　finish　裏から始まる大音符は適正だと叩きにくいので、それと　00:10:684パターン
deleted and added
・00:57:062　change to d　01:02:251と変化を取るため
changed
・01:06:305　add d　配置パターンの統一と難易度差調整
added
・01:09:062　delete　さすがにここはいらないと思います。
deleted
・01:12:954　add k　kiaiラストなのでビルドアップと難易度差調整
added
・01:23:008　slider end point 1/1→　音に対して短すぎて違和感があります
changed
・01:25:602　add dk(1/1)　and　01:28:197　change to k　上記を参照
added and changed
・01:42:143　add d　無難に、ここだけ2連なのが違和感
added
・01:45:548　move to 1/1←　こっちのほうが目立った音に合ってると思います
他の方のMODにより変更済み
・01:53:008　add dd(1/2)　and　01:53:494(85,86,87)　change to k　kiai後半のビルドアップと難易度差調整
前者 no add 後者changed

Muzukashii
・00:00:630~00:52:197　Kantan,Futsuuでは最初そんなに密度高くなくて展開もしっかりしていたのに、Muzukashiiでは難しい方に入る密度がいきなり最初から叩かされるのはかなりまずいです！全部とは言いませんが、必要の無い1/4を取り除いて密度を下げてください！(多分BNに指摘される)
自分なりに配色と1/4を改善しました
・00:56:738　change to K　こっちのほうが合ってるかと
changed
・00:59:332(81,82)　Ctrl+G　00:54:143パターン、音の変化は聞き取れないので合わせることを勧めます
changed
・01:01:440　change to d　00:58:846の逆配色パターン
changed
・01:09:386(3,7)　Ctrl+G　こっちのほうが合ってるかと
他の方のMODにより変更済み
・01:11:819　add d　and　01:11:981　change to k　微妙な間隔が違和感あったので
他の方のMODにより変更済み
・01:23:657~01:34:035　同様にKantan,Futsuuに比べて、Muzukashiiからいきなり難しくなりすぎです。Futsuuを密度高くするかMuzukashiiを密度低くするかは任せますが、難易度差を考えて各難易度ごと展開を把握しないとまずいです(多分BNに指摘される)
他の方のMODにより変更済み
・01:38:575　Muzukashiiにしては難しすぎると思います。許容されるかどうか…　そこで一応配置、配色の提案です

画像を参考に自分なりにchanged
・01:54:359　delete　難しいので
他の方のMODにより変更済み

Oni
・muzukashiiでの難しさを意識したのか、これもまたOniでは難しい配置が出てきてます。Oniではちょっと許容されないであろう配置と難しいdk配色が心配。もう少し簡単な配置、簡単なdk配色にすることを勧めるかな

・休憩から裏で始まる所が多いです。Inner Oniみたいな感じになっちゃうので少し自重したほうが良いかも
・00:00:630~00:52:197　Muzukashiiを参照！
自分なりに配色を単純にしたりノーツを削ったりしました
・00:52:440　delete　好みで
no delete
・01:01:278~01:02:575　ここは変化が必要です。Muzukashiiの音取りを参考にしてください
muzuを参考に変化を付けました
・01:22:359~01:34:035　Muzukashiiを参照！
自分なりに易化させました
・01:28:629(44,45)　delete　難しいです　
deleted
・01:37:927(112,118)　delete　ここの長い1/3はOniでは許容されないかもしれません
deleted
・01:52:035(65,66)　delete　さすがにここで休憩は必要だと思います
deleted
他にも書きたいところはあったのですが、一先ずこのくらいで。もしSRがかなり下がってしまったら、一番上の難易度と差が開きすぎてしまうことも考え新たにもう１diff追加という手もあります。(そうなったら多分Inner OniをagOnyに変えて、Inner Oniを新たに追加という形になります。Inner Oni作るのめんどいと思ったら誰かにGD依頼することも視野に)
GD依頼しました

Inner Oni
・inner oni以上では譜面の質が良けれさえすれば自由なmappingが許容されます。とりあえずここでは多分アドバイスくらいになっちゃうと思います。
・00:32:413~00:42:143　別に好みですが、kが繰り返し過ぎると、飽きがくる恐れがあるかもしれないです
ここは全難易度統一で静かな縁パートにしたいんですよね…　たくさんのModderから指摘を受けた場合は変更するかもしれません
・01:12:873(173,174)　Ctrl+G　and　01:13:197(178,1)　Ctrl+G　叩きやすさを考慮
叩きにくいとはあまり思わないのでkeepで
・01:47:765　change to k　^
配色的な問題でkeep

good luck~

beatmap自体の問題の指摘ありがとうございました
GDの制作を依頼することにしました

komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

komasy 2016-10-02T13:19:42+00:00

Smallwu wrote:
Hi, mod from my queue (M4M)
General
Oni and Inner Oni - Their difficulty gap is too big (2.31 Stars x_x)
Find another mapper to make a new Oni is a good choice (So the map will have two Oni, one Inner Oni)
I asked for having other people make InnerOni.
Kantan
00:29:819 (32) - Move to 00:30:467 Follow the sound "Ding" like 00:26:575 . 00:27:873 . 00:29:170 and 00:30:467
changed

00:30:467 (1) - Remove Because that's too strange. If you want Spinner, you should put at 00:31:765 (but I don't think that's good idea)
removed

00:31:684 - Remove this green line, or move to 00:32:089
removed

00:31:765 - Add D Here has drum sound, follow it
added

00:51:224 (12) - d Here no any big sound @w@ (also highlight 00:52:521 (1))
changed

00:52:116 - Remove this green line, I think it hasn't any effect
removed

01:13:238 - Remvoe this green line, I think it hasn't any effect, too
no removed

01:22:359 - Add k, I think you forget to add here
added

01:28:197 (8) - Move to 01:28:846 is more fit
It has been changed by other Mod.

01:33:994 - Remvoe this green line
no removed

01:45:711 (34) - k Because the sound same as 01:44:413 (31)
It has been changed by other Mod.

01:51:873 (45,46) - Ctrl+G
It has been changed by other Mod.

Futsuu
00:20:738 (43) - k To highlight 00:21:386 (44)
It has been changed by other Mod.

00:31:684 - Move this green line to 00:32:089 Because Finisher shouldn't quiet
moved

00:52:521 (29) - D or K
It has been changed by other Mod.

01:05:819 (70,71,72) - D D K
keep.Because there is many finish

01:06:792 (73,74,75,76) - k k k D
It has been changed by other Mod.

01:13:238 - Remvoe this green line, I think it hasn't any effect
no remove

01:33:994 - ^ ^
no remove

01:38:089 (40) - Remove this Because that sounds really strange X_X
removed

01:53:494 (81,82,83) - k k k
changed

01:54:629 (86) - Remove this
keep

Muzukashii
00:06:143 (29,30,31,32,33,34) - kkk d d d To be Symmetry (and that sounds nice I think)
changed

00:31:684 - Move this green line to 00:32:089 Because Finisher shouldn't quiet
moved

00:51:224 (50) - d To highlight 00:52:197 (51)
It has been changed by other Mod.

01:05:819 (107,108,109,110,111) - D D D D K
keep

01:13:238 - Remove this green line
no remove

01:33:994 - ^
^

01:43:765 (126,127,128,129) - k d d k Follow pitch
changed

01:44:900 (131,132) - Ctrl+G ^
It has been changed by other Mod.

Oni
Skip because I'm lazy :3
Okay

Inner Oni
00:31:684 - Move this green line to 00:32:089 Because Finisher shouldn't quiet
moved

01:04:927 (100) - Move to 01:05:008
moved

01:13:238 - Remove this green line
no deleted.

01:33:994 - ^
^

01:47:765 (35) - k better I think
I change it here because it was pointed out to other people
GL with Rank!

nice mod
thank you for modding

nyanmi-1828

445 posts

Joined August 2015

nyanmi-1828 2016-10-08T00:40:34+00:00

1週間もかけてしまいすみませぬ><

パターンと叩きやすさを重視して作ったので単調な部分があるかと思います^^;
~~modderの皆様にどうにかしてもらおう…~~

23-'s Inner Oni

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 52440
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.9

[Metadata]
Title:BLACK or WHITE?
TitleUnicode:BLACK or WHITE?
Artist:BlackYooh vs. siromaru
ArtistUnicode:BlackYooh vs. siromaru
Creator:bjpe0810
Version:23-'s Inner Oni
Source:SOUND VOLTEX II -infinite infection-
Tags:SDVX KAC 2013 Yooh Blacky siromaru schranz
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:5
OverallDifficulty:6.8
ApproachRate:0
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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komasy

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komasy 2016-10-08T07:44:57+00:00

nyanmi-1828 wrote:

23-'s Inner Oni

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ありがとうございました！　素晴らしいbeatmapですね　さっそくアップロードしました

ちなみにこの投稿はno kdsですか？

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2016-09-27 19:03 bjpe0810: 無意識にキックの音を意識していてそうなってました。　Futsuuなら普通の3連の方が叩き易い＆流れ的に違和感なしなのでそちらにchangeします
2016-09-27 19:04 nyanmi-1828: 01:23:008 - スライダーここまでにして01:23:657 - にD?
2016-09-27 19:07 bjpe0810: そこ迷ってました　スライダーの直後は叩き易く！っていうことを聞いていてチキンになってました。Futsuuならスライダーの直後に1打なら全然問題ない感じですかね？
2016-09-27 19:07 nyanmi-1828: うーんスライダーはKantanとFutsuuにはまず向いてないかも
2016-09-27 19:08 nyanmi-1828: やば　めしいってきます
2016-09-27 19:08 bjpe0810: あ、そうなんですか？　てっきりスライダー置いて簡単にするのかと勘違いしてました。
2016-09-27 19:09 bjpe0810: スライダー置かずに普通に音符置いた方が良さげですかね
2016-09-27 19:09 bjpe0810: いってらっしゃいです
2016-09-27 19:32 nyanmi-1828: IRCでと言った本人が途中で抜けるとか申し訳ないです
2016-09-27 19:32 nyanmi-1828: スライダーは叩かなければ簡単ですが、基本osuではスライダーを多用しないことが多いです
2016-09-27 19:33 bjpe0810: 大丈夫ですよ～
2016-09-27 19:33 bjpe0810: なるほど　ちょっとスライダー抜く方向で行きたいと思います
2016-09-27 19:34 bjpe0810: あの、質問なんですけど今他の譜面MODしてるんですけど、どうやったらスレッドに画像を張れますか？
2016-09-27 19:35 nyanmi-1828: スレッドってこのチャットではなくブラウザで開く方ですか？
2016-09-27 19:36 bjpe0810: そうです　よくModにこんなのどうですか？って画像で提案するのあるじゃないですか？アレやりたいです
2016-09-27 19:37 nyanmi-1828: そっちならShift+F12で画像とって、URLを「[img]http://ppy.sh[/img]」みたいな感じで
2016-09-27 19:37 nyanmi-1828: [img][/img]で囲みます
2016-09-27 19:37 bjpe0810: おお、できました！ありがとうございます！
2016-09-27 19:38 nyanmi-1828: SSだと画像でかいかも知れないので範囲選択して取れるやつ使ったほうが見やすいかも
2016-09-27 19:38 bjpe0810: それはどうやったら出来ますか？
2016-09-27 19:38 nyanmi-1828: gyazoとかpuushとか
2016-09-27 19:39 bjpe0810: なるほどです
2016-09-27 19:39 nyanmi-1828: puushはファイルアップロードしてURL化出来るのでオススメです
2016-09-27 19:39 bjpe0810: 使ってみます！
2016-09-27 19:40 nyanmi-1828: 開発者はosu!の製作者だから安心(╹◡╹)
2016-09-27 19:40 nyanmi-1828: peppy()
2016-09-27 19:40 bjpe0810: ソフト名で察しましたｗ
2016-09-27 19:41 nyanmi-1828: ソフト名だけで察するとはなかなか…
2016-09-27 19:41 bjpe0810: osu公式のppy.shに似てたのでｗ
2016-09-27 19:42 nyanmi-1828: （教えてもらうまでほぼ気づかなかったなんて言えない
2016-09-27 19:42 bjpe0810: 本当ですか!
2016-09-27 19:42 bjpe0810: すみません、今度僕がご飯食べてきます…
2016-09-27 19:43 nyanmi-1828: ｲｯﾃﾗｯｼｬｲ(・ω・)ﾉｼ
2016-09-27 20:15 bjpe0810: お待たせしてしまい申し訳ないです
2016-09-27 20:18 nyanmi-1828: エロゲして待ってました(╹◡╹)
2016-09-27 20:18 nyanmi-1828: やっぱ消そうとしたらそのまま送っちゃった
2016-09-27 20:18 bjpe0810: なんのエロゲですか？
2016-09-27 20:20 nyanmi-1828: サノバウィッチですｗ
2016-09-27 20:20 nyanmi-1828: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1073781 BlackYooh vs. siromaru - BLACK or WHITE? [Muzukashii]]
2016-09-27 20:21 bjpe0810: サノバウィッチですか！ゲームは持ってないのでCGは見ますｗ　
2016-09-27 21:21 bjpe0810: IRCの続きはまた明日以降という感じにしますか？
2016-09-27 21:21 bjpe0810: 今日はチョット時間ないです…　すみません
2016-09-30 22:40 bjpe0810: こんばんは
2016-09-30 22:40 bjpe0810: お時間ありますか？
2016-09-30 22:40 nyanmi-1828: はい　大丈夫ですよー
2016-09-30 22:40 nyanmi-1828: この前はすみません><
2016-09-30 22:41 bjpe0810: こちらこそ本当に申し訳なかったです…
2016-09-30 22:41 bjpe0810: Modしてもらう立場として失礼なことをしてしました…
2016-09-30 22:42 nyanmi-1828: いえいえ
2016-09-30 22:42 bjpe0810: 今IRCの続きをしていただいてもよろしいでしょうか・・・？
2016-09-30 22:43 nyanmi-1828: 了解です(*`･ω･)ゞ
2016-09-30 22:43 bjpe0810: ありがとうございます
2016-09-30 22:44 nyanmi-1828: 00:07:846 - を 00:07:521 - ?
2016-09-30 22:44 nyanmi-1828: with change d
2016-09-30 22:45 nyanmi-1828: 前の1/4の位置と同じ感じにしてみるのもあり？
2016-09-30 22:46 bjpe0810: こっちの方がパターン化図れて1/4も叩き易いと思ったのでchangeします
2016-09-30 22:47 nyanmi-1828: 00:08:413 (43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) - finish多すぎぃ！
2016-09-30 22:47 nyanmi-1828: あ　いつもの癖でホモネタ出してもた
2016-09-30 22:47 nyanmi-1828: どこかけそう
2016-09-30 22:48 bjpe0810: 僕もTwitterでは使うので大丈夫です
2016-09-30 22:48 bjpe0810: ここ難しいですね
2016-09-30 22:48 nyanmi-1828: 00:08:819 - ここにd置いて
2016-09-30 22:48 nyanmi-1828: ほかのfinish全部削除？
2016-09-30 22:50 bjpe0810: 00:08:981 - ここにd 置いて削除はどうですか？
2016-09-30 22:51 nyanmi-1828: それだったら00:08:413 - にfinish置けそう
2016-09-30 22:52 bjpe0810: これで凄い個人的にしっくりきました
2016-09-30 22:52 nyanmi-1828: おお　良かった
2016-09-30 22:52 bjpe0810: この発想はありませんでしたね…
2016-09-30 22:52 bjpe0810: ありがとうございます
2016-09-30 22:53 nyanmi-1828: (*´ω｀*)
2016-09-30 22:54 nyanmi-1828: 00:10:684 (53) - 次のdより高い音+ピアノなのでkに変更?
2016-09-30 22:55 bjpe0810: changed
2016-09-30 22:58 nyanmi-1828: 00:39:224 (5) - d?低く聞こえました
2016-09-30 22:58 nyanmi-1828: 00:40:197 (7,9) - も
2016-09-30 23:00 bjpe0810: ここは全難易度統一縁で静かさを表現したいパートなのでno changeで行かせていただきたいと思います
2016-09-30 23:00 nyanmi-1828: なるほど
2016-09-30 23:01 nyanmi-1828: 00:49:116 - add d? パターン的に
2016-09-30 23:02 bjpe0810: 良いですね…　add します
2016-09-30 23:04 nyanmi-1828: 00:52:521 - サビのfinish多すg(ry
2016-09-30 23:05 nyanmi-1828: Muzuなので00:52:521 (52,63,74,85,96,107,117) - は残してもいいと思います
2016-09-30 23:07 bjpe0810: 等間隔でfinish置く感じですね　試してみます
2016-09-30 23:09 nyanmi-1828: うーん
2016-09-30 23:10 nyanmi-1828: 01:08:413 - ここの1/4帯むずく感じる
2016-09-30 23:12 nyanmi-1828: 全部1/2で良さそう
2016-09-30 23:13 nyanmi-1828: 01:08:494 (119,1,5,9) - Delete?
2016-09-30 23:13 bjpe0810: finishの奴は提案通りにさせて頂きました
2016-09-30 23:15 bjpe0810: そうですね、確かにOniからはいい感じに音抜き出来てるとはいえ、かんたんふつうから見ると急にノーツ増えすぎでした
2016-09-30 23:17 nyanmi-1828: 01:11:657 - add d? 流れ的に1/2を奇数個ずつってかんじでおきたい
2016-09-30 23:17 bjpe0810: 01:10:440 - ここだけは曲の方のパターンの終りということでアクセントで残しておいて他はdeleteします
2016-09-30 23:18 bjpe0810: addしました　こっちの方が叩き易いですね
2016-09-30 23:22 nyanmi-1828: http://puu.sh/rsVVE/a5887b8c78.jpg
2016-09-30 23:22 nyanmi-1828: 01:27:873 -
2016-09-30 23:22 nyanmi-1828: ここから上の画像みたいにした方が
2016-09-30 23:23 nyanmi-1828: あ
2016-09-30 23:23 nyanmi-1828: やっぱやめ
2016-09-30 23:23 nyanmi-1828: 01:27:873 - ここのkkkを1/3にしませんか？
2016-09-30 23:23 nyanmi-1828: 1/4からいきなり1/3になるのはMuzuでは厳しそう
2016-09-30 23:24 bjpe0810: こっちの方が音も取れてるし、叩き易いしで良さそうですね changed
2016-09-30 23:26 nyanmi-1828: 01:30:711 - Delete? 1/4を消すことで逆にアクセントをつけられるかも
2016-09-30 23:30 bjpe0810: 01:29:413 - 個人的にこっちdeleteして密度に流れを付けた方が違和感なさそうって感じました　
2016-09-30 23:31 nyanmi-1828: 01:29:413 - 01:30:062 - Delete、01:30:954 - add kはどうですか？
2016-09-30 23:31 nyanmi-1828: ↑一回最初にもどしてから
2016-09-30 23:34 bjpe0810: https://puu.sh/rsWsV/1472553a29.png　
2016-09-30 23:34 bjpe0810: How about?
2016-09-30 23:35 nyanmi-1828: それ+01:30:954 - d?
2016-09-30 23:37 bjpe0810: https://puu.sh/rsWzD/9ddcfec1ce.png
2016-09-30 23:37 bjpe0810: これとかどうですか？徐々に密度上げ+最後の複合群は直前のddkddに肉付けした形になっている
2016-09-30 23:38 nyanmi-1828: おお　良さそう
2016-09-30 23:38 bjpe0810: これしっくり来たのでこれでいこうかなと思います～
2016-09-30 23:39 nyanmi-1828: おｋっす
2016-09-30 23:39 nyanmi-1828: 01:33:792 - move to 01:33:467 +01:33:873 - Delete?
2016-09-30 23:40 nyanmi-1828: +も含むなよURL
2016-09-30 23:40 nyanmi-1828: 01:33:467 -
2016-09-30 23:40 nyanmi-1828: 01:33:873 -
2016-09-30 23:42 bjpe0810: パートの区切りもつけられて、休憩もつくいい配置ですね changed
2016-09-30 23:44 bjpe0810: 01:33:711 - からなっている主旋律拾わない代わりに01:33:711 -　にadd finishでアプローチするっていうのはfinish続いて微妙ですかね？
2016-09-30 23:44 nyanmi-1828: 01:35:494 (76,78) - Delete? 青線を使う配置だと1/4を使用しなくても難しく感じるので、
2016-09-30 23:44 nyanmi-1828: うーん
2016-09-30 23:45 nyanmi-1828: 音があまり大きくなかったりするので不自然だと思います
2016-09-30 23:46 bjpe0810: 了解です
2016-09-30 23:46 bjpe0810: deleteの部分ですが、ちょっとkeepでお願いしますm(__)m
2016-09-30 23:46 nyanmi-1828: 了解です
2016-09-30 23:48 nyanmi-1828: 01:36:629 - ここから1/2でk d d？
2016-09-30 23:52 bjpe0810: changed
2016-09-30 23:53 nyanmi-1828: 01:38:035 - add d?
2016-09-30 23:53 nyanmi-1828: 01:54:251 - add d?
2016-09-30 23:57 bjpe0810: 1/3長いと難しいかなーって思ってたんですけど、こまぎりにした方が逆に難しかったりしますか・・・？
2016-09-30 23:57 nyanmi-1828: 自分は難しく感じますが…人にもよると思います
2016-09-30 23:58 nyanmi-1828: こまぎりにすると音取りが微妙な感じになりそうってのもあるます
2016-09-30 23:58 bjpe0810: ハネリズムの得手不得手で変わってきそうですね・・・　
2016-09-30 23:58 nyanmi-1828: あります
2016-09-30 23:58 bjpe0810: 確かに普通に音取れば提案通りになりますので、一応addしておきますね！
2016-09-30 23:59 nyanmi-1828: 了解でっす
2016-09-30 23:59 nyanmi-1828: すいません　母さんに殺されそうなので今日はここまででいいですか？
2016-10-01 00:00 bjpe0810: 了解です！
2016-10-01 00:00 bjpe0810: 今日も本当にありがとうございました…！
2016-10-01 00:00 bjpe0810: またお時間あるときによろしくお願いします
2016-10-01 00:00 nyanmi-1828: いえいえ、こちらこぞお時間頂きありがとうです
2016-10-01 00:01 nyanmi-1828: *こちらこそ
2016-10-01 00:01 bjpe0810: お疲れ様でした
2016-10-01 00:01 nyanmi-1828: またよろしくお願いします(・ω・)ﾉｼ
2016-10-08 17:09 bjpe0810: こんばんは！
2016-10-08 17:09 nyanmi-1828: こんばんわ～
2016-10-08 17:09 bjpe0810: Inner　Oniありがとうございました！
2016-10-08 17:10 nyanmi-1828: どいたまです(*´ω｀*)
2016-10-08 17:11 bjpe0810: お時間あればまたIRCやっていただきたいと思っている所存です
2016-10-08 17:12 nyanmi-1828: 寝起きで頭働いてないけどそれでも置ければｗ
2016-10-08 17:12 nyanmi-1828: よければ（（
2016-10-08 17:12 bjpe0810: 逆ににゃんみーさんは大丈夫でしょうか…？
2016-10-08 17:12 nyanmi-1828: だいじょうぶですよー
2016-10-08 17:12 nyanmi-1828: 5時間ぐらい・・・ぐふふ
2016-10-08 17:12 bjpe0810: ありがとうございます　よろしくお願いします
2016-10-08 17:13 nyanmi-1828: あ、GDの投稿はNo kdsでー
2016-10-08 17:13 bjpe0810: 了解です
2016-10-08 17:13 nyanmi-1828: modとか、譜面の変更に関することにkudosuって感じですね
2016-10-08 17:14 nyanmi-1828: GDはkds付けない
2016-10-08 17:14 bjpe0810: なるほど　分かりました
2016-10-08 17:15 nyanmi-1828: oniからでしたっけ…（）
2016-10-08 17:15 bjpe0810: そうですね～
2016-10-08 17:15 nyanmi-1828: よかった　ボケ始めたかと（
2016-10-08 17:18 nyanmi-1828: うーん
2016-10-08 17:19 bjpe0810: すみません　何故かosuが落ちました
2016-10-08 17:19 nyanmi-1828: あれ
2016-10-08 17:19 nyanmi-1828: あｗなるほど
2016-10-08 17:19 bjpe0810: ご迷惑をおかけしました…
2016-10-08 17:20 nyanmi-1828: いえいえ、大丈夫ですよー
2016-10-08 17:20 nyanmi-1828: 自分が作ったInnerむずいと思うんで
2016-10-08 17:20 nyanmi-1828: 少し難しくしようかと
2016-10-08 17:21 bjpe0810: なるほどです
2016-10-08 17:21 nyanmi-1828: 00:01:035 - k?
2016-10-08 17:22 nyanmi-1828: 00:04:116 - d?
2016-10-08 17:22 nyanmi-1828: パターン作れる
2016-10-08 17:22 bjpe0810: 追加しました
2016-10-08 17:23 nyanmi-1828: 00:06:224 - k
2016-10-08 17:23 nyanmi-1828: 00:06:548 (43) → 00:06:711 -
2016-10-08 17:23 nyanmi-1828: URLおい…
2016-10-08 17:24 nyanmi-1828: 00:06:548 -move to 00:06:711?
2016-10-08 17:24 bjpe0810: and change to k?
2016-10-08 17:24 bjpe0810: d
2016-10-08 17:25 nyanmi-1828: 00:06:711 -
2016-10-08 17:25 nyanmi-1828: 00:06:792 - をd
2016-10-08 17:25 bjpe0810: ですね
2016-10-08 17:25 bjpe0810: 全て変更しました
2016-10-08 17:25 nyanmi-1828: URLの仕様がよくわかんないです；；
2016-10-08 17:25 nyanmi-1828: ｂ
2016-10-08 17:26 nyanmi-1828: 00:07:278 (48,50) - d?
2016-10-08 17:26 nyanmi-1828: すごい何となく（（（
2016-10-08 17:27 nyanmi-1828: あ、やっぱ48なしで
2016-10-08 17:27 nyanmi-1828: dkkがいきなりになりすぎる感でちゃいそう
2016-10-08 17:27 bjpe0810: そうですね、音の高低も配慮してchange to dしました
2016-10-08 17:28 bjpe0810: そこは現在kkkに変更ました
2016-10-08 17:28 bjpe0810: https://puu.sh/rBEtE/0333af1ba3.png
2016-10-08 17:28 nyanmi-1828: りょうかいっす
2016-10-08 17:29 nyanmi-1828: 50がkだとkが基調になりすぎちゃう
2016-10-08 17:30 nyanmi-1828: 00:08:251 (55) - Delete？
2016-10-08 17:30 nyanmi-1828: 今までのパターン的にはここ削除したほうが綺麗に聞こえそう
2016-10-08 17:31 bjpe0810: ここでフレーズ変わりますし、そういうことも含めて区切りつけたいですね　deleted
2016-10-08 17:33 nyanmi-1828: 自分のInnerの00:08:575 (83,84,85,91) - のfinish削除してくれませんか（
2016-10-08 17:33 bjpe0810: 消しましたｗ
2016-10-08 17:34 nyanmi-1828: で、00:08:981 - add d , 00:09:143 (87,89) - Delete
2016-10-08 17:34 bjpe0810: それはOniですか？Innerですか？
2016-10-08 17:34 nyanmi-1828: すいません　他のDiffと比較してる時にすごい気になった
2016-10-08 17:34 nyanmi-1828: Inner
2016-10-08 17:34 nyanmi-1828: です
2016-10-08 17:35 bjpe0810: 変更しておきました～
2016-10-08 17:35 nyanmi-1828: あざっす><
2016-10-08 17:36 nyanmi-1828: Oniもこの形にしたいです
2016-10-08 17:36 bjpe0810: Innerと全く一緒の形に変更しますか？
2016-10-08 17:37 nyanmi-1828: 自分のInnerと同じ形でよろです
2016-10-08 17:37 bjpe0810: 了解です！
2016-10-08 17:38 nyanmi-1828: 00:10:440 (68,70) - Delete？
2016-10-08 17:38 nyanmi-1828: Oniではたぶんunrankable
2016-10-08 17:40 bjpe0810: パターンから独立している+音が鳴っている+両端に1/1以上の休符が設けられていますがやはりだめなんですかね…
2016-10-08 17:40 nyanmi-1828: ダメです
2016-10-08 17:40 nyanmi-1828: 5連符が限界だった気がします
2016-10-08 17:41 bjpe0810: Candy Crack Curtain CallのOniのラストに、13連打あります
2016-10-08 17:41 nyanmi-1828: たすけ…
2016-10-08 17:41 bjpe0810: しかも最初1/1の休憩なくて色混ざってる複合なの笑いますｗ
2016-10-08 17:41 nyanmi-1828: もうそれあるならどんな感じでもRankedできるってことですよね
2016-10-08 17:42 nyanmi-1828: さっきのなし！
2016-10-08 17:42 bjpe0810: この部分は今後のModderの提案によっても変えて行きたいと思います
2016-10-08 17:43 nyanmi-1828: あ、
2016-10-08 17:43 nyanmi-1828: Spider なんとかにもこんぐらいの連打あった
2016-10-08 17:43 nyanmi-1828: 最近ルール無視譜面多いなぁ
2016-10-08 17:44 nyanmi-1828: BNが暴走してる
2016-10-08 17:44 bjpe0810: 本当ですね　
2016-10-08 17:45 nyanmi-1828: 00:16:684 - move to 00:16:765 - ?
2016-10-08 17:46 bjpe0810: 統一のためにmovedです
2016-10-08 17:48 nyanmi-1828: 00:22:927 - move to 00:23:008 - ?
2016-10-08 17:49 bjpe0810: やっぱりこっちの方が叩き易いですかね…　キック拾ってるんですけど…
2016-10-08 17:50 nyanmi-1828: あんまり強調しないでいいと思います
2016-10-08 17:50 bjpe0810: moved
2016-10-08 17:52 nyanmi-1828: 00:27:711 - http://puu.sh/rBFbZ/67ad4cab54.jpg
2016-10-08 17:53 nyanmi-1828: 00:29:494 - http://puu.sh/rBFdn/10e235b012.jpg
2016-10-08 17:55 bjpe0810: こっちの方がまとまり合っていいですね～
2016-10-08 17:55 bjpe0810: changed
2016-10-08 17:57 nyanmi-1828: 00:46:765 (48) - k?　なんとなく+アクセント的な
2016-10-08 17:57 bjpe0810: changed
2016-10-08 17:58 nyanmi-1828: 00:51:062 - 00:51:305 - add d?
2016-10-08 17:59 nyanmi-1828: サビ前にどんどん密度上げてくてきな
2016-10-08 17:59 bjpe0810: サビの盛り上がりへスムーズに繋がっているのいいですね！
2016-10-08 17:59 bjpe0810: add
2016-10-08 18:01 nyanmi-1828: 00:52:440 - Delete？
2016-10-08 18:01 nyanmi-1828: kkdの音のみでピアノが終わってるので
2016-10-08 18:01 nyanmi-1828: あと00:52:521 - にfinishお期待ってのもある
2016-10-08 18:02 nyanmi-1828: *置きたい（）
2016-10-08 18:02 bjpe0810: 僕もここは5連にするか3連+finishにするかで迷ってました
2016-10-08 18:02 bjpe0810: changed
2016-10-08 18:05 nyanmi-1828: 01:04:197 - ここから1/1でDDKDにしたい
2016-10-08 18:05 nyanmi-1828: でもパターンに従う代わりに単調になる
2016-10-08 18:06 bjpe0810: ラストフレーズ＆パートの最後だから変化付けようかと思いました　どちらの方が最適解なのでしょう……
2016-10-08 18:07 nyanmi-1828: 逆に
2016-10-08 18:07 nyanmi-1828: 00:57:062 (115,116) - のfinishなくして
2016-10-08 18:08 nyanmi-1828: http://puu.sh/rBFHO/f97ec6f1bf.jpg
2016-10-08 18:08 nyanmi-1828: 00:56:738 -
2016-10-08 18:09 nyanmi-1828: こうしちゃえばある程度は自然にいけそう
2016-10-08 18:10 bjpe0810: Muzukashiiとのコンボ差開きそうなので無難に01:04:197 -をDDKDにした方がいいかもです
2016-10-08 18:11 nyanmi-1828: そうですね
2016-10-08 18:11 nyanmi-1828: そうしちゃおう
2016-10-08 18:11 bjpe0810: 了解です
2016-10-08 18:12 nyanmi-1828: 01:23:657 -
2016-10-08 18:13 nyanmi-1828: ここらへんのddkとかの1/2の3連は
2016-10-08 18:13 nyanmi-1828: 最後だけFinish付ける形にしたほうがよさそう
2016-10-08 18:13 nyanmi-1828: 01:23:981 - だけどか
2016-10-08 18:13 bjpe0810: やってみますね
2016-10-08 18:14 nyanmi-1828: *だけとか
2016-10-08 18:14 bjpe0810: 01:24:954 (25) - とかの単音はfinish残しますか？
2016-10-08 18:14 nyanmi-1828: うん　単色はOniだし付けちゃってよさそう
2016-10-08 18:16 bjpe0810: 01:26:251 (29) ～はddK kkDは配色このままでいいですかね？
2016-10-08 18:16 bjpe0810: URL
2016-10-08 18:17 nyanmi-1828: okok
2016-10-08 18:18 bjpe0810: 了解です　この地帯は変更しました
2016-10-08 18:22 nyanmi-1828: 悩んだけどもうOniはアドバイス出来ることないですｗ
2016-10-08 18:23 nyanmi-1828: サビがちょっとだけ難しいことぐらい
2016-10-08 18:23 bjpe0810: サビは配色がムズイですよね　少し自分なりに配色を簡単にしてみますね
2016-10-08 18:25 nyanmi-1828: リズムも偶数多様はむずいと思いますｗ
2016-10-08 18:26 bjpe0810: 了解です
2016-10-08 18:26 nyanmi-1828: じゃあInner突入いいですか？
2016-10-08 18:29 bjpe0810: お願いします！
2016-10-08 18:30 nyanmi-1828: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1073779 BlackYooh vs. siromaru - BLACK or WHITE? [Inner Oni]]
2016-10-08 18:30 nyanmi-1828: 00:11:170 - add d?
2016-10-08 18:30 nyanmi-1828: ここだけ偶数はちょい不自然かも
2016-10-08 18:31 bjpe0810: 細かく区切られた複合群へ突入していくときに、導入として偶数を入れた方が良いと思うのでkeep
2016-10-08 18:36 nyanmi-1828: なるほど
2016-10-08 18:36 nyanmi-1828: 01:10:278 - move to 01:10:197 - ?
2016-10-08 18:36 nyanmi-1828: 1/6がやりやすくなりそう　パターンは無視だけど最後のアクセントとして使えそう
2016-10-08 18:37 bjpe0810: 確かに裏から入ってくると24分押しにくそう＆リズム崩しでmoved!
2016-10-08 18:39 nyanmi-1828: うーん　Innerはリズムの取り方が素晴らしいし配色も俺にはできないいい配色だしいうことないですｗ
2016-10-08 18:39 nyanmi-1828: ってか俺が未熟なだけです
2016-10-08 18:39 nyanmi-1828: 何か他のマッパーとは違う可能性を秘めてる感じ
2016-10-08 18:40 bjpe0810: 僕は普段次郎でOniばっかり作ってるので！！(ドヤ顔)
2016-10-08 18:40 nyanmi-1828: ですよね　そうでもないとここまで作れなさそう
2016-10-08 18:40 bjpe0810: 多分それ「次郎勢っぽい作譜」ってことだと思います
2016-10-08 18:40 bjpe0810: 最初yu68さんにも次郎勢らしい譜面だって言われたので、それが大きいかと思います
2016-10-08 18:41 nyanmi-1828: Osuはやりやすさとルールという枷があります
2016-10-08 18:41 nyanmi-1828: そのためosu勢はそんな風な譜面を作ってしまいがち
2016-10-08 18:41 bjpe0810: (スミマセン漢字読めません…)
2016-10-08 18:42 nyanmi-1828: 枷　かせ（手錠とかそんな感じだった気が）
2016-10-08 18:42 nyanmi-1828: ルールに縛られるんですよね
2016-10-08 18:42 bjpe0810: なるほど、縛られているということですね
2016-10-08 18:42 bjpe0810: まあ、それは仕方ないことではないでしょうか　osuは
2016-10-08 18:42 bjpe0810: 大きなゲームでもありますし
2016-10-08 18:42 nyanmi-1828: ですね
2016-10-08 18:43 bjpe0810: 昨日こんな譜面公開したので是非見てください(クソ宣伝)
2016-10-08 18:43 bjpe0810: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQHlzopl9Og
2016-10-08 18:43 nyanmi-1828: でもこういう譜面はosu勢には作れないと思う
2016-10-08 18:43 bjpe0810: 今日は本当にIRCありがとうございました！
2016-10-08 18:43 nyanmi-1828: おっ
2016-10-08 18:43 bjpe0810: ありがとうございます～
2016-10-08 18:43 nyanmi-1828: 久々に次郎やってみよう
2016-10-08 18:45 nyanmi-1828: こちらこそいろいろ学ばせてもらいました！ありがとうございました～
2016-10-08 18:45 bjpe0810: 配布しているので是非～
2016-10-08 18:45 bjpe0810: 本当に感謝です～　
2016-10-08 18:45 bjpe0810: こちらこそ色んなosuのbeatmap事情が知れて、大変有意義でした
2016-10-08 19:00 nyanmi-1828: 次郎やろうとしたらログ消えました（）
2016-10-08 19:00 bjpe0810: ！？　マジですかｗ
2016-10-08 19:00 nyanmi-1828: 譜面はやばいぐらい楽しいんですけど　次郎にスペックが追いつきません（（（
2016-10-08 19:01 nyanmi-1828: osu落とされた（
2016-10-08 19:01 bjpe0810: 僕txt持ってますよ～
2016-10-08 19:01 bjpe0810: プレイありがとうございます！　僕の中でも割と自信作だったりします
2016-10-08 19:01 nyanmi-1828: http://puu.sh/rBHlB/9f1628836d.png
2016-10-08 19:01 bjpe0810: これは明らかにスペック不足ですねっていうのが伝わってくるリザルトですね
2016-10-08 19:01 nyanmi-1828: osuに譜面移動したらFC余裕(*´ω｀*)
2016-10-08 19:02 nyanmi-1828: ｗｗｗ
2016-10-08 19:02 bjpe0810: コンバートソフト持ってますけど、この譜面みたいに、BPM変化多かったりスクロール激しく使ってるとバグるのでコンバートできませんね・・・
2016-10-08 19:02 nyanmi-1828: ログのtxtスレッドに貼っておいてくれませんか><
2016-10-08 19:02 nyanmi-1828: あるんだ…
2016-10-08 19:03 bjpe0810: 黒白も実は元はコンバートから始めたという左
2016-10-08 19:03 bjpe0810: ←
2016-10-08 19:03 nyanmi-1828: ←
2016-10-08 19:03 bjpe0810: えっとtxtのすべてを張り付ければいいですか？
2016-10-08 19:03 nyanmi-1828: boxの中に[Code][/Code]で囲んだほうがいいですね
2016-10-08 19:04 nyanmi-1828: すごい長いってわけではないけどこの先のmodが見づらくなるのでｗ

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

yuzu__rinrin 2016-10-08T16:09:38+00:00

2nd. no kd

[23-'s Inner Oni]

00:01:359 (8,9) - Ctrl+G
00:13:521 (125) - k?
00:19:359 (181) - k 途中にddk dkd ddk dkdの場所あったしそれに少し合わせる意味で。
01:06:386 (120) - d?
01:12:873 (181) - k?
01:54:143 (309,310,311,312) - 1/3 kkd? なんか違和感あった。

nyanmi-1828

445 posts

Joined August 2015

nyanmi-1828 2016-10-08T23:29:31+00:00

yuzu__rinrin wrote:
2nd. no kd

[23-'s Inner Oni]
00:01:359 (8,9) - Ctrl+G　ここは悩んだけどchangeで
00:13:521 (125) - k?　あ＾～いいっすね＾～
00:19:359 (181) - k 途中にddk dkd ddk dkdの場所あったしそれに少し合わせる意味で。ddkからddddddkって（自分で作ったんだけど）あんま楽しくない気もしたのでchanged
01:06:386 (120) - d?　ここは主旋律が全部同じ音だと思うのでとりあえず今はkeepで。
01:12:873 (181) - k?　あ、これは神　changed
01:54:143 (309,310,311,312) - 1/3 kkd? なんか違和感あった。後から見るとありまくりだったのでchanged

modありがとうございました！

後から見たら結構譜面むずいな…

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Artist:BlackYooh vs. siromaru
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Source:SOUND VOLTEX II -infinite infection-
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Waribashi

638 posts

Joined January 2013

Waribashi 2016-10-10T09:14:12+00:00

PMにて　配色の提案くらいしかできませんがお許しを。

mod

[Kantan]
00:25:278 (28) - change to k
00:25:927 (29) - change to d
00:26:575 (31) - change to k - ここはカーンっていう音を引き出したほうがプレイ感上がりそうという提案です；ｗ；

01:10:035 (28) - change to d
というかしっかりできてて指摘する箇所がほとんどなかったです

[Futsuu]
00:26:575 (55) - change to k - ここ一帯のパターンがkで終わっているのでここからでもおかしくないとおもいました。

01:10:035 (80) - change to d - 音が下がっているのでここは合わせていきませんか

最後はちょっと難しくしてもいいかもしれません。例として一応
01:51:711 (81) - insert to k
01:51:873 (82) - insert to d
01:52:197 (83) - change to k
01:52:521 (84) - delete
01:53:170 (85) - delete
01:53:981 (88) - insert to k

[Muzukashii]

00:08:981 (42) - delete

00:10:035 (46) - ここから00:10:684 (47) - ここまで
スライダーにしてみませんか？休憩目的でも使えると思います。

00:13:278 (58,59,60) - change to kkk

サビと同様な展開にしませんか？

00:23:332 (107) - change to d

00:26:575 (118) - change to k

ここもうちょっと整理できそうです。パっと考えた例として。

　01:28:197 (32) - ここから1/3

[23-'s Inner Oni]
00:11:170 (102,103,104) - Ctrl+G
00:18:954 (177,178,179) - kkd
00:31:359 (289) - change to k
00:31:440 (290) - change to d
01:25:117 (35,36,37) - delete ここの目的ってなんでしょう・・・？
サビ以降難しすぎてわからなくなっちゃった許して

OniとagOniはゲームチャットにてやるのでカット

komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

komasy 2016-10-10T10:02:24+00:00

KitajimaYN wrote:
PMにて　配色の提案くらいしかできませんがお許しを。
mod
[Kantan]
00:25:278 (28) - change to k
よい提案だと思いましたが統一性の観点から現時点ではkeepでお願いします
00:25:927 (29) - change to d
下の提案を受け入れたくてこれはその前提条件って感じしたのでchanged
00:26:575 (31) - change to k - ここはカーンっていう音を引き出したほうがプレイ感上がりそうという提案です；ｗ；
changed

01:10:035 (28) - change to d
音程的にchanged
というかしっかりできてて指摘する箇所がほとんどなかったです

[Futsuu]
00:26:575 (55) - change to k - ここ一帯のパターンがkで終わっているのでここからでもおかしくないとおもいました。
音合わせ的にもchanged

01:10:035 (80) - change to d - 音が下がっているのでここは合わせていきませんか
changed

最後はちょっと難しくしてもいいかもしれません。例として一応
01:51:711 (81) - insert to k
纏まりなくなる印象を受けたのでno changed
01:51:873 (82) - insert to d
^
01:52:197 (83) - change to k
changed
01:52:521 (84) - delete
no changed
01:53:170 (85) - delete
deleted
01:53:981 (88) - insert to k
no insert

[Muzukashii]

00:08:981 (42) - delete
deleted

00:10:035 (46) - ここから00:10:684 (47) - ここまで
スライダーにしてみませんか？休憩目的でも使えると思います。
muzuだけスライダーというのも違和感なのでno add

00:13:278 (58,59,60) - change to kkk
changed

サビと同様な展開にしませんか？
no change

00:23:332 (107) - change to d
音の高低的にchanged

00:26:575 (118) - change to k
changed

ここもうちょっと整理できそうです。パっと考えた例として。

自分なりに整理
　01:28:197 (32) - ここから1/3
自分なりにchanged
OniとagOniはゲームチャットにてやるのでカット

Modありがとうございました

nyanmi-1828

445 posts

Joined August 2015

nyanmi-1828 2016-10-11T07:16:29+00:00

KitajimaYN wrote:
PMにて　配色の提案くらいしかできませんがお許しを。
mod
[23-'s Inner Oni]
00:11:170 (102,103,104) - Ctrl+G　ok　00:11:819 (108,109,110) - 00:12:467 (114,115,116) - も同じように変更
00:18:954 (177,178,179) - kkd　ここは00:11:170と同じようにkddにしました　00:19:602 (184,185,186) - もkddに変更
00:31:359 (289) - change to k　ok
00:31:440 (290) - change to d　^
01:25:117 (35,36,37) - delete ここの目的ってなんでしょう・・・？他Diffとの違いを出したかった　流石に変なのでchange
サビ以降難しすぎてわからなくなっちゃった許して　~~ん？今何でもするって（幻聴）~~

パターン的に追加で変更したとこは書きましたヽ(・∀・)ノ

modありがとうございました～

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Shinsekai-

1,314 posts

Joined November 2012

Shinsekai- 2016-10-11T20:07:11+00:00

M4M req

Via: PM

[General]

- Seems good

[かんたん]

- it's perfect BUT you need delete the bonus SV XD
- 01:34:035 (2,3) - ctrl + g and shift the FINISH

[ふつう]

- same has Kantan Felete bonus SV
- move this 01:06:305 (72) - to 01:05:981 (71) - is better -w- the sound is good if you move that note to that point and help the next kat :^)
- ctrl + g 01:34:359 (32,33) - ~ ddd k d sound better than ddd d k in this case
- change this to d 01:45:711 (63) - you need
- 01:50:413 (76) - same change to k it's 1/2 come on...

[むずかしいi]

- add a note here dude 00:16:197 (75) - ...
- add an spinner here 00:32:089 (1) - can work...
- remap all this part 00:36:954 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - follow the piano... Some like

- add this 2 notes 00:51:548 (55,56) - k d
- 01:11:819 (142,143,144) - kkk pls...
- add a kat 01:13:116 (150) -
- SPIN!! 01:13:602 (1) -
- 01:20:089 (3,4,5) - k d d d pls... :^) you need listen the music and map the sounds what you need don't make the muzu too ez dude

- You should re-map this... ( some parts not all diff ) listen the music and map the sounds.... You leave too much spaces

[Oni]

- add k 00:01:197 (6) -
- move this note 00:01:521 (9) - to 00:01:846 (12) -
- add k 00:02:494 (18) -
- do the same thing here 00:03:224 (22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40) - and here 00:05:819 (41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58) -
- delete this note 00:08:981 (63) - and all 00:08:413 (59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66) - with finish....
- add k here 00:11:494 (79) -
- add k here 00:13:846 (97) -
- ^ 00:14:089 (99) -
- ^ 00:16:197 (115) -
- WTF WHY YOU STOP MAPPING HERE? ADD THESE NOTES NOW 00:26:359 (176,177) -
- add a k 00:30:548 (203) -
- spin 00:31:927 (1) -
- re map all this 00:36:954 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) -
- Don't leave too much spaces in a oni :^) that's all

[23-'s Inner Oni]

- make this like a loooong stream 00:10:035 (91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102) - kkkkkkkkkd like that
- make this more simple 00:29:170 (266,267,268) - ddk is better than dddk trust me man
- you should map this part 00:32:089 - 00:40:521 - you can create the difference and for map that part follow the piano pls
- same here 01:13:602 - 01:20:738 - ^
- add finish 01:39:224 (159) - make more difficult
- nice work...

[agOni]

- add k here 00:32:089 (2) -
- add the spiner... 01:13:440 (1) - -w- dude add the spinner in Muzu, Oni and Inner pls
- 01:18:467 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - add more notes here... >:C FOLLOW THE PIANO!!
- this is BETTER nice work best inner

[Comments]

- you need think in experimented people dude map oni more difficult and muzu too, don't be scary and go MAP MORE HARDCORE :c don't leave spaces with strong sounds and well... -w- inner is very good dude, GL ranking this

komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

komasy 2016-10-13T13:59:19+00:00

[_Chichinya_] wrote:
M4M req

Via: PM

[General]

- Seems good
Thank you
[かんたん]

- it's perfect BUT you need delete the bonus SV XD
- 01:34:035 (2,3) - ctrl + g and shift the FINISH
keep

[ふつう]

- same has Kantan Felete bonus SV
- move this 01:06:305 (72) - to 01:05:981 (71) - is better -w- the sound is good if you move that note to that point and help the next kat :^)
moved
- ctrl + g 01:34:359 (32,33) - ~ ddd k d sound better than ddd d k in this case
fixed
- change this to d 01:45:711 (63) - you need
changed
- 01:50:413 (76) - same change to k it's 1/2 come on...
changed

[むずかしいi]

- add a note here dude 00:16:197 (75) - ...
keep because nothing sound here
- add an spinner here 00:32:089 (1) - can work...
no change
- remap all this part 00:36:954 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - follow the piano... Some like
some kat added

- add this 2 notes 00:51:548 (55,56) - k d
to rest.no add
- 01:11:819 (142,143,144) - kkk pls...
added
- add a kat 01:13:116 (150) -
no add
- SPIN!! 01:13:602 (1) -
no add
- 01:20:089 (3,4,5) - k d d d pls... :^) you need listen the music and map the sounds what you need don't make the muzu too ez dude
keep

- You should re-map this... ( some parts not all diff ) listen the music and map the sounds.... You leave too much spaces
Okay

[Oni]

- add k 00:01:197 (6) -
no add
- move this note 00:01:521 (9) - to 00:01:846 (12) -
no move .I don't want to collapse pattern
- add k 00:02:494 (18) -
no add
- do the same thing here 00:03:224 (22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40) - and here 00:05:819 (41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58) -
- delete this note 00:08:981 (63) - and all 00:08:413 (59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66) - with finish....
delete. But I didn't add finish. If I add Finish all, this place have so many finish.
- add k here 00:11:494 (79) -
no move .I don't want to collapse pattern
- add k here 00:13:846 (97) -
^
- ^ 00:14:089 (99) -
^
- ^ 00:16:197 (115) -
^
- WTF WHY YOU STOP MAPPING HERE? ADD THESE NOTES NOW 00:26:359 (176,177) -
added
- add a k 00:30:548 (203) -
K has being already added.
- spin 00:31:927 (1) -
no add. I want to take rest.
- re map all this 00:36:954 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) -
okay
- Don't leave too much spaces in a oni :^) that's all
okay

[agOni]

- add k here 00:32:089 (2) -
I didn't notice. added
- add the spiner... 01:13:440 (1) - -w- dude add the spinner in Muzu, Oni and Inner pls
I don't want to add the spiner these diff.Sorry
- 01:18:467 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - add more notes here... >:C FOLLOW THE PIANO!!
I believe that that part would like to gradually increase the density
- this is BETTER nice work best inner
Thank you!

[Comments]

- you need think in experimented people dude map oni more difficult and muzu too, don't be scary and go MAP MORE HARDCORE :c don't leave spaces with strong sounds and well... -w- inner is very good dude, GL ranking this

Very nice mod
Thank you!

Fahrenheit7

19 posts

Joined October 2013

Fahrenheit7 2016-10-14T09:45:55+00:00

modします・。・

Kantan

特になしいい譜面だと思いました

Futsuu

特になしいい譜面だと思いました

Muzukashii

00:30:792 - ノーツ重なってます
00:46:359 - change to k 前後が同じなので変化を加えた方がいいかもあと若干音が高くなってる？
01:30:629 - change to k ?

Oni

00:26:143 (167,168) - change to dk こっちの方がいいと思います
01:11:981 - change to k 音が高くなっていってるので
01:26:900 (32,33,34) - change to dkK ? kkDだと曲と違和感あります

23-'s Inner Oni

01:05:332 (111) - change to kこっちの方がいいと思います

agOni

01:06:792 - ここはこの配色の方が自然ですhttp://puu.sh/rIvVe/8dfd9b405e.jpg
01:28:846 - change to ddkdk? 最後音が高くなっていってるのでkは付けた方がいいと思います
01:29:332 - ここの配色はこれでもいいと思いましたhttp://puu.sh/rIwev/1bfc55bb30.jpg
01:31:278 - 上と同じ理由ですhttp://puu.sh/rIwux/0ef15cdcd0.jpg
01:33:711 - 上と同じ理由ですhttp://puu.sh/rIwWN/3f2377a9d5.jpg
01:40:521 - 上と同じ理由ですhttp://puu.sh/rIwCJ/1caad208b9.jpg
01:44:900 ~ 01:46:521 - 音的にこんな感じの配色がいいと思いますhttp://puu.sh/rIxdA/438d21015f.jpg

他は多分大丈夫だと思います以上で終わります

komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

komasy 2016-10-14T12:29:47+00:00

Fahrenheit7 wrote:
modします・。・
Kantan
特になしいい譜面だと思いました
ありがとうございます
Futsuu
特になしいい譜面だと思いました
ありがとうございます
Muzukashii
00:30:792 - ノーツ重なってます
気づきませんでした　deleted
00:46:359 - change to k 前後が同じなので変化を加えた方がいいかもあと若干音が高くなってる？
そうですね　changed
01:30:629 - change to k ?
changed
Oni
00:26:143 (167,168) - change to dk こっちの方がいいと思います
運指を考えてのこの配置で、音の高低からもあまり違和感ないのでkeep
01:11:981 - change to k 音が高くなっていってるので
いいですね　changed
01:26:900 (32,33,34) - change to dkK ? kkDだと曲と違和感あります
ここは正直自分でも微妙だなぁと思っていたのでこちらにchangedします
agOni
01:06:792 - ここはこの配色の方が自然ですhttp://puu.sh/rIvVe/8dfd9b405e.jpg
音の高低からしても今の方が違和感ないのでno change
01:28:846 - change to ddkdk? 最後音が高くなっていってるのでkは付けた方がいいと思います
直前のkkdkdとあべこべ配置にもなって一石二鳥なのでchanged
01:29:332 - ここの配色はこれでもいいと思いましたhttp://puu.sh/rIwev/1bfc55bb30.jpg
この画像の特に後半部分が凄い参考になったので、自分なりに配色を変えました
01:31:278 - 上と同じ理由ですhttp://puu.sh/rIwux/0ef15cdcd0.jpg
ここのパターンは現状でもほとんど違和感ないと思いますが、音の高低をよく聞いて少しだけ配色をchanged
01:33:711 - 上と同じ理由ですhttp://puu.sh/rIwWN/3f2377a9d5.jpg
サビを縁から入るのが意外とフィットしていたのでchanged
01:40:521 - 上と同じ理由ですhttp://puu.sh/rIwCJ/1caad208b9.jpg
changed
01:44:900 ~ 01:46:521 - 音的にこんな感じの配色がいいと思いますhttp://puu.sh/rIxdA/438d21015f.jpg
滅茶苦茶合ってて感動しました
他は多分大丈夫だと思います以上で終わります

とても参考になるmodでした
ありがとうございました

nyanmi-1828

445 posts

Joined August 2015

nyanmi-1828 2016-10-14T12:51:03+00:00

[_Chichinya_] wrote:
M4M req

Via: PM
[23-'s Inner Oni]

- make this like a loooong stream 00:10:035 (91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102) - kkkkkkkkkd like that umm...keep for now.
- make this more simple 00:29:170 (266,267,268) - ddk is better than dddk trust me man ok~
- you should map this part 00:32:089 - 00:40:521 - you can create the difference and for map that part follow the piano pls I can't map here ;< Because I mapping of simple sound is not well...
- same here 01:13:602 - 01:20:738 - ^ ^
- add finish 01:39:224 (159) - make more difficult ok.
- nice work...

Thanks for mod!

nyanmi-1828

445 posts

Joined August 2015

nyanmi-1828 2016-10-14T12:52:32+00:00

Fahrenheit7 wrote:
modします・。・
23-'s Inner Oni
01:05:332 (111) - change to kこっちの方がいいと思いますあ～、確かにkの方が聞こえがいいですね。changed.
他は多分大丈夫だと思います以上で終わります

modありがとうございます！

3日も見てなかった　すいません

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komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

komasy 2016-10-14T13:13:03+00:00

Fahrenheit7さん、Star下さってありがとうございます！

Fahrenheit7

19 posts

Joined October 2013

Fahrenheit7 2016-10-14T13:22:06+00:00

bjpe0810 wrote:
Fahrenheit7さん、Star下さってありがとうございます！

とりあえず貰ったらすぐに投げてます・。・

komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

komasy 2016-10-14T13:38:09+00:00

Fahrenheit7 wrote:
bjpe0810 wrote:
Fahrenheit7さん、Star下さってありがとうございます！
とりあえず貰ったらすぐに投げてます・。・

感謝しきれません!!

namaniku

43 posts

Joined May 2013

namaniku 2016-10-15T02:52:11+00:00

namaniku wrote:
こんにちは。少し遅くなってしまいましたがmodします
mod
[kantan]
・01:35:981 (6) - change to k
[Futsuu]
・01:20:413 - add d　Futsuuなら少し詰めても大丈夫だと思います
[Muzukashii]
・01:12:954 (136) - change to k
・01:35:332 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77) - 独断ですが、このような配置はどうでしょうか
　
・01:54:143 (168,169,170,171,172,173) - このような逆手配置は少し難しい(Oni向け)だと思います(単色dがお勧め?)
[Oni]
・00:07:521 - add k?
[23-'s Inner Oni]
・00:10:440 - add k　少し違和感がある気がします
・01:44:900 (205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213) - このような配置はどうでしょうか(音合わせ的に)

[agOni]
・00:21:062 (102,103,104) - kkkd(1/6)に変えることで音合わせ的にベストだと思います(個人的に)
・01:26:819 (16,17) - change to kd
・01:27:062 (18) - change to d
指摘できる点が少なくなってしまいましたが以上でmodを終わらせていただきます。 Ranked頑張ってください。

nyanmi-1828

445 posts

Joined August 2015

nyanmi-1828 2016-10-15T04:44:46+00:00

namaniku wrote:
namaniku wrote:
こんにちは。少し遅くなってしまいましたがmodします
mod
[23-'s Inner Oni]
・00:10:440 - add k　少し違和感がある気がします Chichinyaさんにも言われたので00:10:602 - にも追加します
・01:44:900 (205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213) - このような配置はどうでしょうか(音合わせ的に)fix
指摘できる点が少なくなってしまいましたが以上でmodを終わらせていただきます。 Ranked頑張ってください。

modありがとうございます！

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komasy

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komasy 2016-10-15T10:50:34+00:00

こーど

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にゃんみーさんStarありがとうございます！

komasy

621 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

komasy 2016-10-15T11:01:16+00:00

namaniku wrote:
namaniku wrote:
こんにちは。少し遅くなってしまいましたがmodします
mod
[kantan]
・01:35:981 (6) - change to k
changed
[Futsuu]
・01:20:413 - add d　Futsuuなら少し詰めても大丈夫だと思います
3打のパターンがあるのでkeep
[Muzukashii]
・01:12:954 (136) - change to k
changed
・01:35:332 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77) - 独断ですが、このような配置はどうでしょうか
　
changed
・01:54:143 (168,169,170,171,172,173) - このような逆手配置は少し難しい(Oni向け)だと思います(単色dがお勧め?)
確かにこれは難しそうですね　とりあえず単色dにchanged
[Oni]
・00:07:521 - add k?
keepで
[agOni]
・00:21:062 (102,103,104) - kkkd(1/6)に変えることで音合わせ的にベストだと思います(個人的に)
ここに1/6入れる発想はなかったですね　シンセの音とあっていていいと思ったのでchanged
・01:26:819 (16,17) - change to kd
・01:27:062 (18) - change to d
2つ合わせて、デデン(?)の音に合っていて、直前もその音に合わせて音符を置いているので統一するためchanged
指摘できる点が少なくなってしまいましたが以上でmodを終わらせていただきます。 Ranked頑張ってください。

Modありがとうございました！

Sylphi

osu! Alumni

3,298 posts

Joined February 2012

Sylphi 2016-10-21T08:27:33+00:00

遅くなってすみません。

[General]

Tagsが一致しないので修正お願いします。
Kantan, Futsuu, Muzukashii, Oni, agOni: SDVX KAC 2013 Yooh Blacky siromaru schranz
23-'s Inner Oni: SDVX KAC 2013 Yooh Blacky siromaru schranz nyanmi-1828

[Kantan]

00:52:351 - この緑の線は必要ないと思います。
00:16:521 (17,18,19) - ここって曲のリズムがちょっと微妙ですよね…　個人的には00:16:846 (18)を00:17:170に、00:17:494 (19)を00:17:819に移動したほうがプレイしやすいかと…
01:02:575 (16) - 00:57:062 (7,8,9)と似た感じなのでk？
01:10:035 (28) - まだ音は高いのでk使ったほうがいいと思います。

[Futsuu]

01:01:602 (58) - 周りに比べてメロディーが低いし、一貫性のためにもdに変えましょう
01:35:332 (34,35,36,37,38,39) - ここって1/4リズムのせいで今のパターンじゃちょっと不自然な感じがしますので、1/1だけで表現するのも答えかもしれません。
01:54:629 (90) - こっちは1/3なので、これは消したほうが後で問題にならないかと…

[Muzukashii]

00:30:792 (134,135) - ２つのノートが同じ所（正確には２ms差）にあるので一つ消してください。
01:01:602 (86,87) - 俺には87のほうが高い音に聞こえるんですが…　dkに変えるのはどうでしょう？
01:35:332 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77) - Futsuuと同じく、もうちょっとシンプルにしたほうがプレイしやすいと思います。　こんなふうにしてみるのはどうでしょう？ http://sylphi.s-ul.eu/fEhcu8zH
01:37:927 (84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91) - dddd kkkk? 今のぱたーんってmuzu難易度する人にはちょっと厳しいんじゃ…
01:42:062 (109) - メロディーに合わせて1/4右に…

[Oni]

OD６，この難易度ではちょっと高いと思います。
00:20:494 (137) - 強い音の強調のため消すのはどうでしょう？

thzz

579 posts

Joined May 2012

thzz 2016-10-23T01:38:59+00:00

M4M、遅くなってごめんなさい！

[Kantan]

00:22:035 - add note? ここに強いバスドラムがあるので、重要なところだと思います。その分00:23:332 (25,26) - を削ってあげると休憩作りに良いかと。
00:24:629 - 同様にadd note。00:26:575 - からが休憩地帯なので、後ろを削る必要はそこまでなさそうです。
01:38:575 - 曲調が激しいところなので、add note? 休憩が不安ですが、01:43:765 - が空白なのでギリギリ行けるかもしれません。

[Futsuu]

00:46:035 (17,18) - dkよりkdが良いかも。00:42:143 (9,10,11,12,13) - とのパターン化と、00:46:684 (18,19) - でのdの連続を回避できるので良いと思います。
01:01:602 (58,59,60) - kkkと連続しているのが特徴的に見えるので、これなら01:02:575 - にもkを追加してしまった方が曲に合う気がします。
そしたら01:03:224 (62) - のremoveを検討すると良いかと。

[Muzukashii]

01:24:629 (19) - change to k、01:23:657 (14,15,16) - とパターン化して、裏拍kを徹底した方が曲に合うと思います。
そしたら01:24:954 (20,21,22,23) - をDDKKとかにしてあげるとkの連続が防げます。
01:27:224 (29) - ^。すると01:27:548 (30) - をDでしょうか。

[Oni]

01:26:900 (32,33,34) - d-k-Kはどうでしょうか。配置にバリエーションを持たせたい気持ちは分かるのですが、曲のアクセントを鑑みるに大音符の位置は変えない方が良いと思います。
01:52:035 - add noteしたい……。ここの空白が曲の勢いを損なってる気がします、Oniですし、無理に休憩作りはしなくても平気だと思います。

[23-'s Inner Oni]

00:08:981 (86) - 個人的にはremoveです、確かにこの一帯で裏拍に微かなバスドラが聴こえますが……。
00:13:116 (122,123,124,125,126,127) - バスドラが124~127で連打している且つ旋律が下降ではなく上昇に切り替わっているので、123と124の間で区切りを付けてあげるとbetterではないでしょうか。
dkddkkやdkdkkkなどなど……。
00:15:629 - 主旋律的にワンチャンadd note、個人的な好みですが。
00:25:927 (236,237,238,239) - ここ1/3です！
01:08:008 - ここも主旋律的にadd noteするとよさそう。
from 01:52:846 - to 01:54:143 - 、ここまで16分で埋めて突っ切ってしまった方がこの曲らしいような……？　少し拍子抜けな感じ。
どちらかと言えば、主旋律が８分である01:49:602 - ～01:52:197 - の方を削った方が良いと思います。

[agOni]

00:32:900 - add kが良さそうです。00:35:494 (16) - との一貫性。
01:35:332 (11,12,13,14,15) - 主旋律通りにいくなら、dddk-kではなくd-dddkで行きましょう。
01:53:575 - ＆　01:53:900 - 、曲のクライマックスですし埋めちゃいませんか？

参考になれば嬉しいです。
gl o/

nyanmi-1828

445 posts

Joined August 2015

nyanmi-1828 2016-10-23T12:48:02+00:00

thzz wrote:
M4M、遅くなってごめんなさい！
[23-'s Inner Oni]
00:08:981 (86) - 個人的にはremoveです、確かにこの一帯で裏拍に微かなバスドラが聴こえますが……。悩みましたがchanged
00:13:116 (122,123,124,125,126,127) - バスドラが124~127で連打している且つ旋律が下降ではなく上昇に切り替わっているので、123と124の間で区切りを付けてあげるとbetterではないでしょうか。
dkddkkやdkdkkkなどなど……。ok
00:15:629 - 主旋律的にワンチャンadd note、個人的な好みですが。ここより前の3連符をパターンとして残しておきたいのでkeep
00:25:927 (236,237,238,239) - ここ1/3です！oh...
01:08:008 - ここも主旋律的にadd noteするとよさそう。ここじゃなくて01:07:846 - に追加。ついでに01:07:927 - をkにchange
from 01:52:846 - to 01:54:143 - 、ここまで16分で埋めて突っ切ってしまった方がこの曲らしいような……？　少し拍子抜けな感じ。
どちらかと言えば、主旋律が８分である01:49:602 - ～01:52:197 - の方を削った方が良いと思います。うーむ…ここ全部つなげるのは次の難易度の差が縮まってspread的にあれだと思うので、01:52:116 - ここで切ってそのほかは1/4で繋げる感じにしました。
参考になれば嬉しいです。
gl o/

modありがとうございました！

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komasy

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komasy 2016-10-24T11:37:22+00:00

Sylphi wrote:
遅くなってすみません。

[General]
Tagsが一致しないので修正お願いします。
Kantan, Futsuu, Muzukashii, Oni, agOni: SDVX KAC 2013 Yooh Blacky siromaru schranz
23-'s Inner Oni: SDVX KAC 2013 Yooh Blacky siromaru schranz nyanmi-1828
てっきりGDのみタグ付けすればよいものかと勘違いしていました。fixed
[Kantan]
00:52:351 - この緑の線は必要ないと思います。
次のDを正しいタイミングより早く叩いた場合でも音量変化を適応させるためにkeep
00:16:521 (17,18,19) - ここって曲のリズムがちょっと微妙ですよね…　個人的には00:16:846 (18)を00:17:170に、00:17:494 (19)を00:17:819に移動したほうがプレイしやすいかと…
moved
01:02:575 (16) - 00:57:062 (7,8,9)と似た感じなのでk？
リズムでパターン化はできているので、変化を付けるためと音の高低からkeep
01:10:035 (28) - まだ音は高いのでk使ったほうがいいと思います。
次のdを強調させるためにもchanged
[Futsuu]
01:01:602 (58) - 周りに比べてメロディーが低いし、一貫性のためにもdに変えましょう
changed
01:35:332 (34,35,36,37,38,39) - ここって1/4リズムのせいで今のパターンじゃちょっと不自然な感じがしますので、1/1だけで表現するのも答えかもしれません。
changed
01:54:629 (90) - こっちは1/3なので、これは消したほうが後で問題にならないかと…
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[Muzukashii]
00:30:792 (134,135) - ２つのノートが同じ所（正確には２ms差）にあるので一つ消してください。
fixed
01:01:602 (86,87) - 俺には87のほうが高い音に聞こえるんですが…　dkに変えるのはどうでしょう？
他のModedからの提案により修正済みです
01:35:332 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77) - Futsuuと同じく、もうちょっとシンプルにしたほうがプレイしやすいと思います。　こんなふうにしてみるのはどうでしょう？ http://sylphi.s-ul.eu/fEhcu8zH
ここ単音は逆にリズム難で難しいので、1/4消して1/2の5打で自分なりに変更しました
01:37:927 (84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91) - dddd kkkk? 今のぱたーんってmuzu難易度する人にはちょっと厳しいんじゃ…
changed
01:42:062 (109) - メロディーに合わせて1/4右に…
moved
[Oni]
OD６，この難易度ではちょっと高いと思います。
5.5に変更しました
00:20:494 (137) - 強い音の強調のため消すのはどうでしょう？
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とても良いModでした
ありがとうございました

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