Kocari wrote:

Requested

[Hunter]

00:24:210 (1) - Only my preference starting out of the map was really nice, I would say to adjust this slider a bit more, it would fit the cleanliness of the map sure, changed into a curved slider instead~
00:25:810 (1) - You can add a finish on sliderstart Not sure about it... For me there's no such finish sound in the music and if I add i think it'd be too crowded of finishs
01:02:210 (6) - Blanket can be slightly more adjusted I think now it's better
01:37:391 (2,3) - Not sure if this is intentional but it can be stacked under slightend slightly changed it so it looks clearer now
01:37:953 (1) - Can NC I think i'll be better if the NC keep the same since there's no emphasis in the music in order to change it
01:43:860 (4) - I'd rather have this out more than having it linear, how about moving to x:278 y:214 I prefer the lineal transition because it feels more natural to follow since i'm changing direction almost in 180* from the previous pattern and it feels a bit awkward if I move (4) a bit to the left imo
Pretty fucking polished, Just a few more opinions and it'll be ready to go

Monstrata wrote:

Did a testplay-turned irc mod. Did a lot of polishing. I think this map has a healthy amount of structure and freestyle patterns, and I'm feeling quite good about it. I found nothing unrankable on my side, so here's Bubble #1. Good luck!

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21:38 iYiyo: Hey Monstrata~ can you testplay a map? ;w;
21:47 Monstrata: sure
21:47 Monstrata: np
21:47 *iYiyo is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/766560 YUZU - Hyouri Ittai]
21:48 iYiyo: thanks
21:54 Monstrata: pretty good
21:54 Monstrata: the jumps play well
21:54 Monstrata: except the jumps at the end were like
21:54 Monstrata: really big for no reason xd
21:55 Monstrata: there was one part where i was like ?___? didnt know what i was readig
21:55 Monstrata: but i fc'ed it anyways
21:55 iYiyo: well since it's the end part I thought there were no problems making those jumps xd
21:55 Monstrata: by spamming haha
21:55 iYiyo: xDD
21:55 iYiyo: yeah the middle part i guess
21:55 Monstrata: dont do that, thats how you get random 1 votes xD
21:56 iYiyo: well I think I can reduce them
21:56 iYiyo: however I think music is strong enough to make some jumps i guess
21:56 Monstrata: 02:32:610 (1,2) - oh, yea here i was like ?____? wwaaat
21:56 Monstrata: maybe ti was just my skin tho xD
21:56 Monstrata: it seems readable on default
21:56 iYiyo: xD
21:57 iYiyo: yeah it's a bit tricky part with all those 3/4 and triplets
21:57 Monstrata: 02:32:610 (1,2) - you seem to use more spacing here than on the other 3/4 s
21:57 Monstrata: 02:34:110 (1,2) - 02:35:610 (1,2) -
21:58 Monstrata: 04:18:887 (1,3) - stacks maybe?
21:59 iYiyo: if i reduce 02:32:610 (1,2) - the overlap would be too noticeable imo
21:59 iYiyo: oh sure!
21:59 Monstrata: 04:25:450 (1,2) - and i think a jump here would fit the vocals
21:59 iYiyo: some cool stuck
21:59 Monstrata: 04:25:450 (1,2) - FOr this overlap, imo, i think just try and make the 2 more visible if you can
21:59 Monstrata: the number
22:00 Monstrata: 04:56:200 (1,1) - Increase the spacing a bit more here. This one has the lowest spacing in between objects compared to the other 3 sliders
22:02 iYiyo: oh yes, fixed
22:02 Monstrata: 05:08:200 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Spacing felt a bit uh large but ehh. should be fine
22:02 Monstrata: and yea, reduce the jumps at the end if you can xD
22:03 iYiyo: xD yes I think I will
22:03 iYiyo: they're a bit high
22:03 Monstrata: 00:28:610 (4,4) - seems like these were stacked at one point
22:04 iYiyo: oh
22:04 iYiyo: I guess I wanted to stack them
22:04 iYiyo: nice catch
22:05 Monstrata: 01:40:672 (4,5) - Improve this blanket
22:05 Monstrata: 01:42:172 (3,1) - and this
22:07 Monstrata: 02:22:297 (2,4) - Blanket
22:07 iYiyo: fixed
22:08 Monstrata: 02:48:547 (2,1) - And here xD
22:08 Monstrata: 02:49:297 (2,4) - here, mainly tail part
22:08 Monstrata: 03:00:922 (1,2,3,4) - and improve these ones
22:09 Monstrata: okay that should be all
22:09 Monstrata: good map, so im mainly just pointing out stuff to polish it up haha
22:09 Monstrata: i can probably bubble tbh
22:09 Monstrata: xD
22:09 iYiyo: haha
22:09 iYiyo: ;ooo
22:10 iYiyo: i mean
22:10 iYiyo: oh well if you think it's ready for bubble i'd love you
22:10 Monstrata: do you have metadata source btw? or should i go find it
22:10 iYiyo: since it'd be my first one >.<
22:10 iYiyo: yep
22:10 iYiyo: with kwan
22:10 Monstrata: got screenshot?
22:11 Monstrata: i dont see her post on the thread haha
22:11 iYiyo: it's on the map thread
22:11 Monstrata: o
22:11 iYiyo: description
22:11 Monstrata: ooo
22:11 Monstrata: lmao
22:11 Monstrata: okay
22:11 Monstrata: cool
22:11 Monstrata: update when ur ready i guess xD
22:11 Monstrata: when ur done fixing
22:12 iYiyo: kk i'm on it
22:13 Monstrata: actually uh
22:13 Monstrata: who timed this btw ;o
22:13 iYiyo: mmm me
22:13 iYiyo: I believe in my offset skills now
22:13 iYiyo: since I play hr a lot more xd
22:14 iYiyo: but idk if they're correct anyway
22:14 iYiyo: i guess yes, they feel fine for me
22:14 Monstrata: its just 03:16:390 - was kinda bothering me
22:14 Monstrata: cuz idk what the spinner is snapped to
22:16 iYiyo: well if I put the first sliders on this part, it feels the same
22:16 iYiyo: 03:30:612 (1,1) -
22:16 Monstrata: oh yea the timing is fine
22:16 Monstrata: Im just wondering if theres an extra red line you can put to snap the spinner
22:17 iYiyo: humm
22:17 iYiyo: In that case I really have nothing to say xd
22:17 iYiyo: idk tbh
22:18 Monstrata: 03:14:610 (1) - i tried adding a red line here with bpm 153.5
22:18 Monstrata: 03:14:610 (1) - to snap to that piano note. You can make it5 5 % volume tbh,
22:18 Monstrata: but its just so the slider snaps to a sound at least'
22:18 Monstrata: 03:14:610 (1) - and then the red line here you cna keep
22:19 Monstrata: and that's all you'd have to do tbh
22:19 Monstrata: 03:14:610 (1) - and of course, shorttening spinner to here 03:16:173 -
22:20 Monstrata: anyways. try, and see if the timing for the last note at 03:16:173 - is good for you
22:20 Monstrata: adjust if you need to,
22:21 iYiyo: okay
22:22 iYiyo: oh yes
22:22 iYiyo: I think it fits better
22:22 Monstrata: 02:58:672 (4) - Clap on slider-head
22:23 Monstrata: okay yea that should be all
22:23 Monstrata: xD
22:24 Monstrata: update when ur read
22:24 Monstrata: y
22:24 iYiyo: 01:37:672 (4) - same here?
22:24 iYiyo: oka
22:24 iYiyo: y
22:26 Monstrata: ya
22:29 iYiyo: okay
22:29 iYiyo: I think I covered everything you mentioned
22:29 iYiyo: except for 02:32:610 (1,2) - this
22:29 iYiyo: reducing the distance would mess the overlap I think
22:31 Monstrata: ah ok
22:31 Monstrata: updated?
22:31 iYiyo: yep
22:35 Monstrata: okay looks good!
22:36 Monstrata: di you know if Sonnyc is planning to bubble?
22:36 iYiyo: no idea, he said he'll be looking this but nothing else
22:37 iYiyo: HappyRocket said he'll look the map the weekend tho
22:38 Monstrata: ok
22:38 Monstrata: xD
22:38 Monstrata: i'll give #1

MugiwaraSekai wrote:

hype is real

Spork Lover wrote:

Holy shit, I didn't know this got bubbled :O Good luck my friend!

Stjpa wrote:

Love this song, I'll try to get to it in the next days~

Ayyri wrote:

Really nice song. <3

Stjpa wrote:

The map doesn't even have enough drain time to go as an approval map. I did the math and got around 298.3 seconds for the drain time, I asked some people about it and they got the same. So uh, call me when you mapped some more seconds, I guess. But sadly I have to pop the bubbles as it's a highly unrankable thing. Ayyri might take a look on the map as she likes the song etc.

1. 00:24:810 (2,2) - So you just used the same patterning from the previous section which is fine, but for some reason you have a lot lower distance from the previous objects which makes it feel kind of weird. Having the structure of a build-up would be cooler.
2. 00:36:010 (2) - For all objects with that sound I suggest to use different spacing related to the piano's strength.
3. 00:57:010 (5,6,7) - Personally I dislike the flow here. Having (5) placed a bit lower would be neat with having an equal distance to each 3 objects. But the equal thingy isn't that important if you want a better emphasis on the burst.
4. 01:09:410 (2,3,4) - The distance doesn't really show the snapping of these objects. For a comparison look at these 01:06:210 (2,3,5,6) . They pretty much have the distance but different snapping.
5. 01:16:610 (3,1) - 01:19:810 (6,1) - Similar to the point above. Especially for the second one, how is someone supposed to know that they are still 3/4 with such a huge gap?
6. 01:37:397 (2,3) - Why do you emphasize them less than 01:37:959 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) ? Also a NC on (12) would be pretty cool for the vocals, but I don't mind if you don't wanna do that.
7. 01:39:928 (1,2) - Aesthetic-wise this is pretty outstanding to the other patterns in the whole map, I kinda dislike it.
8. 01:43:678 (3,4,5,6,7) - Are you sure that you don't wanna change the flow? There are no vocals at all on (3), so using a linear flow is counter-intuitive in this case. And the following objects have strong vocals on them that more deserve an acute flow rather than linear.
9. 01:54:741 (1,2,3,4) - I find it confusing that you have a NC here for the special sound here but don't use one 00:17:410 (4) - here?
10. 02:01:678 (2,3) - Imo way too close together compared to 02:02:053 (3,4,5) .
11. 02:08:991 (2) - How about an emphasis here as the vocals start here again?
12. 02:27:928 (1,2) - 02:28:678 (3,4) - For what reason are you having anti-jumps here when the whole map is pretty jumpy and don't have anything special to emphasize here?
13. 02:30:366 (6) - It would make more sense if you would start the NC spam here because the sound actually starts here. And with that change you probably need to choose a different jump pattern because having that pattern repeat for one and a half measures would be pretty boring and awkward.
14. 02:43:116 (1,2,3,4,5) - (1) is way less audible than (2) so having a bigger spacing from (1) to (2) than (2) to (3,4,5) is really counter-intuitive. You might wanna fix the spacing between all all the pattern in this triplet section then because some are way too small and deserve more emphasis.
15. 05:01:638 (2,3,4) - And here you have 1/2 gaps that have the spacing of 1/4. ;_;

Stjpa wrote:

alright

[Timing]
I asked Bonsai about it and he said that +6 for the second offset and +3 for the last offset would fit better, Also, for the section 03:59:056 - here it's better to double the BPM since kicks are supposed to be on white ticks rather than red ticks. And then again, doubling the BPM of the previous offset would be better as well because it's pretty similar and then the bell sounds would also be on downbeats, which definitely makes more sense than the current. All fixed

[Diff]

1. 00:24:810 (2,2) - So you just used the same patterning from the previous section which is fine, but for some reason you have a lot lower distance from the previous objects which makes it feel kind of weird. Having the structure of a build-up would be cooler. The actual transition from 00:24:210 (1,2) - and 00:25:810 (1,2) - fits quite well for me. tbh i Don't feel it weird to play D:
2. 00:36:010 (2) - For all objects with that sound I suggest to use different spacing related to the piano's strength. I guess i tried xd
3. 00:57:010 (5,6,7) - Personally I dislike the flow here. Having (5) placed a bit lower would be neat with having an equal distance to each 3 objects. But the equal thingy isn't that important if you want a better emphasis on the burst. I like how the flow goes from down to top and then down, creates like a zig-zag flows which i honestly like
4. 01:09:410 (2,3,4) - The distance doesn't really show the snapping of these objects. For a comparison look at these 01:06:210 (2,3,5,6) . They pretty much have the distance but different snapping. I distanced them a bit, idk if that's what you meant, but however i don't see any troubles here :p
5. 01:16:610 (3,1) - 01:19:810 (6,1) - Similar to the point above. Especially for the second one, how is someone supposed to know that they are still 3/4 with such a huge gap? You're right, fixed
6. 01:37:397 (2,3) - Why do you emphasize them less than 01:37:959 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) ? Also a NC on (12) would be pretty cool for the vocals, but I don't mind if you don't wanna do that. I basically wanted to stack them, but it just doesn't feel/look good for me. However I don't feel like it less emphasized, it's just a stack with some little space i guess, i like it :p
7. 01:39:928 (1,2) - Aesthetic-wise this is pretty outstanding to the other patterns in the whole map, I kinda dislike it. did a blanket instead
8. 01:43:678 (3,4,5,6,7) - Are you sure that you don't wanna change the flow? There are no vocals at all on (3), so using a linear flow is counter-intuitive in this case. And the following objects have strong vocals on them that more deserve an acute flow rather than linear. I think the build-up for the next part (01:44:428 (8,9,1) - ) is quite good since it gaves more emphasis to the chorus i guess, idk I like the actual rhythm so I don't want to change it
9. 01:54:741 (1,2,3,4) - I find it confusing that you have a NC here for the special sound here but don't use one 00:17:410 (4) - here? Basically because for the first it just doesn't give too much emphasis in order to NC it, also because of the actual rhythm with those triplets, I think it would be weird to nc just one triplet witch such a low music track
10. 02:01:678 (2,3) - Imo way too close together compared to 02:02:053 (3,4,5) . I reduced them a bit, however I think that for an overall structure, the spacing fits well since it all have almost the same spacing and it doesn't play bad imo
11. 02:08:991 (2) - How about an emphasis here as the vocals start here again? sure! i guess now it's better
12. 02:27:928 (1,2) - 02:28:678 (3,4) - For what reason are you having anti-jumps here when the whole map is pretty jumpy and don't have anything special to emphasize here? I guess because the vocals are changing quite a bit and wanted to give some kind of change in the rhythm/pattern which i personally find cool to play
13. 02:30:366 (6) - It would make more sense if you would start the NC spam here because the sound actually starts here. And with that change you probably need to choose a different jump pattern because having that pattern repeat for one and a half measures would be pretty boring and awkward.Added the NC but kept the jumpy pattern because i don't find it becomes boring and awkward to play just by changing some colors to it, I really like this pattern for such a strong section
14. 02:43:116 (1,2,3,4,5) - (1) is way less audible than (2) so having a bigger spacing from (1) to (2) than (2) to (3,4,5) is really counter-intuitive. You might wanna fix the spacing between all all the pattern in this triplet section then because some are way too small and deserve more emphasis. I kinda get your point, but I think giving the distance for 02:43:116 (1,2) - this sections for example fits quite good because the actual strong beat is on 02:43:303 (2) - so yeah i don't see a problem. However the point where it's different could be 02:43:678 (5,6) - this where i don't give the same distance for the emphasis, but again, if I change that I would mess all the circle flow i'm trying to do here.
15. 05:01:638 (2,3,4) - And here you have 1/2 gaps that have the spacing of 1/4. ;_; I think now it has better spacing

Natsu wrote:

Yup

IRC

2016-09-20 20:25 iYiyo: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/766560 YUZU - Hyouri Ittai]
2016-09-20 20:28 Natsu: okay, esperame un momento, solo termino de modear esta easy
2016-09-20 20:28 iYiyo: okay c:
2016-09-20 20:35 Natsu: tenes algún enlace oficial para esta metadata?
2016-09-20 20:35 iYiyo: está en la descripción
2016-09-20 20:35 iYiyo: por kwan
2016-09-20 20:48 Natsu: estas?
2016-09-20 20:48 iYiyo: sip
2016-09-20 20:49 Natsu: 00:30:810 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -  no creo que las claps en los cuerpos de estos sliders sea intencional
2016-09-20 20:49 Natsu: o si?
2016-09-20 20:50 iYiyo: oh
2016-09-20 20:50 iYiyo: en los cuerpos
2016-09-20 20:50 Natsu: de aqui 00:32:210 (1) -  hasta 00:44:810 (4) - deberias de usar algunos whisltes, se siente bastante vacio sin hitsounds, ademas vos agregastes algunos a otra seccion similar como lo es 01:11:210 (2) -  
2016-09-20 20:51 Natsu: 01:10:610 (1) -  agrega whistle en la cabeza del slider?
2016-09-20 20:52 iYiyo: oki
2016-09-20 20:53 Natsu: 01:47:616 (1,3) -  estos estan apilados tan perfecto que causara algunos problemas, move 3 unos grids hacia la derecha
2016-09-20 20:53 Natsu: 01:54:366 (3) -  NC para ser consistente con 01:54:741 (1) -  
2016-09-20 20:54 iYiyo: encuentro que NC ahí no riia muy bien
2016-09-20 20:54 iYiyo: básicamente porque el cambio de sonido es en 01:54:741 -
2016-09-20 20:54 iYiyo: ahí encuentro que es más worth agregarle NC
2016-09-20 20:54 Natsu: 04:40:453 (1,3) -  esto esta tambien perfectamente apilado >:
2016-09-20 20:56 iYiyo: 03:08:616 (1,3) - también desapilé este
2016-09-20 20:56 iYiyo: btw~
2016-09-20 20:56 Natsu: nice
2016-09-20 20:56 Natsu: avisame cuando este listo

Stjpa wrote:

That was fast. Congratz!

Hazu- wrote:

o: Felicidades~

iWinnie wrote:

Kocari once said it was good. HE SAID SO FOLKS Ayy Good Shit

CSLM wrote:

Really nice!
gratz on your first map ranked

pitsty wrote:

congratz!
nice map