don't make me hurt you fam
bubble my map
bubble my map
eeezzzeee wrote:
sum extra mods from my queue Thank you for choosing my map then <33
[Return to Death]well that took a lot longer than expected lol. that's it for me cuz its getting late here..
- 00:12:149 (5,6,7,8) - try lowering the spacing. its kinda overdone considering how tiny the spacing is for basically everything else here like 00:10:254 (1,2,3,4) - 00:12:780 (1,2,3,4) - 00:14:043 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - etc. theres no build up or anything, the music has barely gotten more powerful, and its just really uncomfortable imo Nerfed 8 which in turn nerfs 8 > 1. 8 was the only part that felt super awkward to me.
- 00:22:096 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ Currently I think this is fine. The vocals are a bit more intense (with the harmony type effect) and you've already had an intro to the jumps earlier. Also, this is isn't side to side its innately a bit easier. Overall I don't think this is too hard for a 6* map.
- 00:29:201 (1,2) - some more spacing for this 1/4 would be nice at least .6 like you did here 00:16:570 (1,2) - This DS is consistent with 00:16:570 (1,2) - . Honestly, though, I'd be willing to change the rest of it if it has a similar effect (00:29:675 (3,4,5) - ).
- 00:30:464 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - use a consistent ds for these it would make it look much better. see 00:30:622 (2) - 00:31:411 (2) - 00:32:043 (2) - 00:33:148 (2) - and yes it was noticeable in game lol. So I mean, I'm not really sure what to say here. You're the first to point it out, I've gotten many playtesters for this and none of them have complained either. I could always straighten it out a bit if I need to, but I'd rather wait for another opinion on this first. The maximum variation here is +/- .5 DS which is basically .25 DS, which honestly is barely noticeable (if at all) to me personally.
- 00:37:412 (3,4) - missing some whistles Fixed
- 00:40:570 - same suggestion as 00:30:464 - Same response.
- 00:45:938 (2,4,5) - minor but it would be nice if they didnt overlap Way too minor to change IMO, its not worth fixing the auto-stack.
- 00:46:727 (5,1,2) - the shape of those two sliders makes the flow here pretty awkward looking at where the previous note was. actually you have all this space on the right side of the map no need to cram everything in this corner lol plays fine to me and others, I think this is more of a personal choice imo
- 00:47:517 (3,4) - missing whistles Fixed
- 00:52:885 (1) - no nc would probably make it better to read since its 1/2 Much better, thanks.
- 01:01:885 (1) - you can add a finish here Yepyep
- 01:03:306 (1,2) - aaaaaaa they are way too close! transitioning from this tiny spacing into 01:03:938 (3,4) - this huge one is super awkward. try something like this plz http://puu.sh/pMaMz/1aaa6c6003.jpg Not sure about this one yet. Your suggestion felt really jarring to play personally so I'll abstain on making this change at the moment.
- 01:04:570 (1,2) - ^ Same thing here. Both of these are spaced fairly consistently so all in all theres no huge reason to change, but I can if others think I need to.
- 01:05:201 (3,4,5,6) - these jumps are way easier than the jump pattern right before 01:03:938 (3,4,5,6) - but the music hasnt really changed lol. try to make the spacing more similar between these two Agreed but having trouble making the spacing larger on this part, I'll keep fiddling with it.
- 01:10:254 (4,5,6) - listen carefully its 1/3 snap The drums are pretty much entirely offbeat throughout the entire kiai, this snapping is way easier to play and not noticeable in-game.
- 01:11:754 (4) - i recommend removing the clap as this one is really just a kick, the drumroll stars at the white tick I like it better as it is currently, and its clear that the doubles are very intentional in this song.
- 01:12:464 (5) - add clap Yep, done.
- 01:13:254 - youre probably better off adding a note here or changing 01:13:096 (9,10) - to a 3/4 slider because this random polarity shift is really unnatural, and the spacing doesn't help since this map features a lot of 1/2 jumps that are as large or even larger Made it a triple, worried about the spacing being too large but it flows fine.
- 01:18:464 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i suggest a rhythm like this http://puu.sh/pMcMv/e8149256d3.jpg as kicksliders almost always produce more emphasis than the notes in a stream due to how much more movement they require, and according to your hitsounds this is what it should be I prefer the stream here over more kick jumps.
- 01:19:096 - NC Agreed
- 01:19:727 (1,1) - missing claps Fixed
- 01:25:885 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - see this is a good part of music to use a quick small spacing - large spacing transition imo IMO the large spacing transition emphasizes the intensity of the vocal shift and the drums coming back in.
i recommend getting more gameplay related mods on that diff because flow and spacing stuff can be improved I've gotten a lot of playtests as most of my friends on osu are players rather than mappers - a lot of this stuff is just kind of how my personal flow works and I don't see too much of an issue with it.
good luck! Thank you!
Spaghetti wrote:
Did Extra in discord voice with Cryptic
[General]
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[Sharkie's Extra]
00:22:570 (5) - Ctrl G for emphasis? The linear flow that you have rn seems very lack-luster.
I don't think that note needs to be emphasized, due to the stronger vocal at 00:22:885 (1) - .
00:24:149 (1) - Ctrl G flows muuuch better here as well, despite it lowering the emphasis a bit, it plays much better.
I disagree, it makes a zig-zag types of movement, which plays fine. http://puu.sh/qer3u/c9e872d4b6.jpg
00:41:517 (3,4) - That would be cool as a slider to fit the slurrish vocals, the doubles seem a bit of a harsh approach to a calm part of the song.
I disagree, I only used weird slider designs to follow guitar riffs. Such as 00:44:991 (1) - here. Although it may seem like I am following the vocal, I am actually following the guitar that is being played. (In addition, to other parts like 00:52:885 (1) - and 01:01:885 (1) - )
Also the two eighth notes I put in, I mapped that because it would feel weird without it. I've tried many different rhythms and I promise you this one is the least awkward.
Internet is being jank so I currently can't upload the changes, but they're there.Spaghetti wrote:
Did Extra in discord voice with Cryptic eeeyup
[General]
soft-hitfinish and soft-hitfinish3 both have a delay greater than 5 ms Fixed
Thanks for the mod!Anxient wrote:
i feel like modding our set. placeholderjoey's extra
00:11:991 (2) - idk if its just me but putting a whistle hitsound for this song sfx is a bad idea. leaving it blank imo is better hmm, they sound fine to me
00:14:991 (4) - ctrl g maybe? keeping what i have here
00:17:043 (3) - ctrl g. its a bit hard to hit like this I would do that, but I think that would make it unrankable, because it would cover up the reverse arrow
00:17:043 (3,4) - blanket ;( okie
00:37:570 (4) - theres not alot of emphasis for this note so maybe itll be better not to give it such large spacing. wanna try doing this instead? hmm, your doesn't have enough space imohttp://puu.sh/qeRnM/c74f08a0f2.jpg
00:57:464 (3) - wh why? this looks bad imo and idk what is in the song to warrant this :c Ya, youre right. Changed to more appropriate sliders
01:03:780 (3,4) - methinks this is overemphasis. try doing this http://puu.sh/qeRs9/3d7ddd4f4d.jpg hmm I like yours. I changed to yours, and also adjusted the sliders that follow it
01:10:885 (1) - whoops this isnt stacked very well.
01:14:675 (1,2) - not using the same slider? ;c fixed
01:28:570 (1) - 01:29:043 - the vibration ends here ah, youre right. Extended the slider
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remove the highest diff and it becomes Sharkie's mapset :/Ascendance wrote:
remove the highest diff and i instarank
Anxient wrote:
i feel like modding our set. placeholderfizz insane
00:05:517 (2,3) - the fact that these arent the same slider is triggering me lol w/e it's not like i was going for any particular symmetry anyway
00:18:464 (3,4) - try making it more centered? or is the word middle.. what i mean is try to blanket the straight slider..? messes with the objects around it too much for me to change
00:31:727 (1,2) - the slight touch is bugging me a little lol intentional
00:32:675 (3) - so.. uh you gonna silence the sliderend? fixed
00:49:727 (2,3,4) - i think itll be better if the slider starting points were like this: how i have it now creates more movement & emphasis
00:54:149 (6,1,2) - i think its better if (2) was more in the middle with (6) and (1). done
00:59:359 (1,2) - fix blanket fixed
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Why would I even say it's the best part of the map if I couldn't play it? That sounds highly presumptuous, but that's whatever. What plays nicely for me, could play terribly for you. My bad.Sotarks wrote:
Taping 1/6 stream in a shape angle for you is the best part, can you even play it ?
Like it may be pretty and playable in editor but the angle game play wise is horrible, but nevermind.
Ayyri wrote:
[Sharkie's Extra][Regraz's Normal]
- 00:29:517 - Feels weird that the start of the vocals here isn't clickable.
Fixed.
- 00:40:570 - There should probably be a hitsound here to emphasize the stark difference between the two sections.
This is my hitsounding, so I'll respond here.
No, I would prefer not to put a hitsound there because there is not bass drum, cymbal, or snare hit. I would only prefer to hitsound what is there, not to emphasize differences between phrases.
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hypuAyyri wrote:
[Fizz's Insane]
- 00:43:096 - This is my favorite slider. Good job! \:3/
- 00:58:412 - and 00:58:727 - These two are spaced about as closely as 00:58:254 - and 00:58:412 - are. Which makes this pattern a bit hard to read. I'd suggest spacing them out a bit. definitely intentional, hoping that the NCs make this a bit more readable as it is, though i expect people to take a few tries on this
I'm gonna hold off on updating until Joey + Anxient have responded. (GJ Exote, no complaints.)Ayyri wrote:
hi dad hi mom
[Joey's Insane][Extra]
- 00:00:149 - Conflicting volume percentages between the uninherited timing point and the inherited timing point. Fixed this after you started modding.
[Return by Death]
- 00:44:991 - CRYPTIC WHERE IS MY SUPER COOL SLIDER FOR THE VOCAL HERE AYYRI WHERE ARE MY SUPER COOL DRUMS HERE
- 00:58:727 - I mentioned this type of pattern in Fizz's difficulty, but it's not that prominent of a problem in this difficulty. (But I didn't want to mention this for one person, but not the other.) The spacing here is intuitive enough methinks.
Call me back! Will do once others have responded~ <3
- 00:44:991 - YES. BB.
- 00:58:254 - and 00:58:412 - Feels really weird to have these two have the same spacing as the next notes, 00:58:727 - and 00:59:043 - , which have an even longer time between them. I personally like the spacing as it makes the map seem coherent, but if I need to NC to make it read better I will (though I don't think I need to since its the top extra).
Ayyri wrote:
[Anxient's Insane]
- 00:43:175 - I KNOW YOU LOVE THIS SPINNER BUT WHY AREN'T YOU MAKING LIKE THE PRETTIEST SLIDER YOU COULD EVER THINK OF FOR THE COOL VOCAL AT 00:44:359 - ?? - i left the spinner there coz it feels appropriate. plus wouldnt it be good buildup to leave the vocals on there and have the impact hit ya at 00:45:622 - ? thats what i think anyway.
- 01:06:622 - Feels kind of weird that you decided to make this a jump, rather than emphasizing the drum that's here, and at 01:06:701 -. - if it makes ye happy, i turned the hitcircle to a 1/4 slider.
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thanks baeCryptic wrote:
I'm gonna hold off on updating until Joey + Anxient have responded. (GJ Exote, no complaints.)
I'm still questionning my self how a 330k player can play those 1/6 stream in such extra diff like that. xdAyyri wrote:
Why would I even say it's the best part of the map if I couldn't play it? That sounds highly presumptuous, but that's whatever. What plays nicely for me, could play terribly for you. My bad.Sotarks wrote:
Taping 1/6 stream in a shape angle for you is the best part, can you even play it ?
Like it may be pretty and playable in editor but the angle game play wise is horrible, but nevermind.
Regardless of whether or not Ayyri can play it, every playtester I've gotten from rank 30k to top 100s can play it so I really have no doubts that they're playable. Even I can play them, as someone who barely plays anymore.Sotarks wrote:
I'm still questionning my self how a 330k player can play those 1/6 stream in such extra diff like that. xd
Ayyri wrote:
[Joey's Insane]Thanks for the mod!!
- 00:00:149 - Conflicting volume percentages between the uninherited timing point and the inherited timing point. I think Cryptic took care of this
- 00:11:991 - Why is this the only reverse slider that isn't spaced like the previous ones? For example, 00:09:464 - or 00:06:938 - (Just because I mentioned it, doesn't mean that I don't like it. I'm just curious as to why it's different. ) Just for variation. No other reason really
- This is just a personal suggestion, so you could ignore this if you want to. 00:14:991 - Ctrl+G to give that back and forth type of motion here. Yeah, I like that Changed
- 00:17:043 - I wouldn't have the spacing increased here if it's literally the same as 00:09:464 - . It makes it feel like the rhythm here is different. I would ctrl+g it so its closer, but that would cover up the reverse arrow, which is unrankable. I personally don't think this is much of an issue for playability.
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Call me back!
I quickly checked the parts you're referring to (currently not at home) and I agree that at least that 1/6th could be optimized. I'll try to change it when I get back but it'll most likely be tomorrow before I get to it.Lasse wrote:
actually I just wanted to see the 1/6 bursts, but this really caught my attention:
could you put some soft whistles (default set) or anything in the
00:30:464 - 00:34:964 -
and
00:00:149 - 00:05:043 -
parts? right now there is nothing besides soft hitnormals so the parts feel extremely empty
the music would support it quite well Hitsounding is really only to drums in my diffs, so IMO they do feel a bout out of place adding them.
the 1/6 bursts are more fc/playable than I expected. only one that always seems to make me miss (though I get a ton of 100s/50s on most others) is 00:22:096 (2,3,4,5,6) - probably because of the linear movement, but then 6 being a jump without any change in angle. maybe you can do something about that since pattern like 00:11:991 (2,3,4,5,6) - feel way easier to snap to Tried something here, Its easy to revert if it plays poorly so let me know. (I couldn't really rework the jumps without trashing the flow entirely, sadly.)
Yuii- wrote:
Shark1
Too edgy. Renaming into "Sharkie's Hard" would actually be way more accurate. You don't map 1/4s on Normal-type difficulties. In case you want to keep the advanced naming, there must be some adjustments.
I know I'm not supposed to reference other maps, as its somewhat of a logical fallacy, each map is its own. However, I completely disagree with this notion. I have use 1/4th on Advanced Difficulties that have been qualified and ranked and no problems have been created from them. (Sleeping With Sirens - If You Can't Hang, Rise Against - Bricks) In addition, the Advanced Difficulty is a brige between the normal of hard, as they should have elements of both difficulties. Mostly consistent spacing while having some harder patterns that hards tend to be used as well.Shark2
- 00:50:833 (2,1,2,1) - Introducing such a pattern 50% through the map on an Advanced-type of difficulty is a no for me. It really does affect readability of newbie players as you are using an equal spacing than 1/2 patterns.
I disagree, the spacing is half of what the normal spacing is. This provides emphasis as there's strong Two eighth notes (Guitar + Percussion) and a whole beat rest. This also builds tension to the more intense kiai.- 00:51:622 (1,2,3) - This is, once again, not a proper element for such an Advanced difficulty. 1/4s at this BPM are rather elements proper of Hards. Applies to every other 1/4 pattern in the Kiai.
I disagree, more and more often Hards use patterns that have Sixteenth note differences between objects. This is simply an introduction to harder difficulties. So that when these players can perfect the rhythm, when similar rhythms are used again in Hards, it's not something that is unexpected.- 01:03:306 - Density in this part becomes extremely high for some reason, it's comparable to the Hard difficulty from Exote. In case you want to keep the naming as I said, you'll have to tone this whole section down. Using a more simple rhythm, like repeat sliders and such.
I disagree. This is an extremely intense part of the song with a constant Snare hit on each beat.- 01:10:254 (7) - Whistle on the repeat arrow fits better, clap sounds a bit clunky to be honest. Too loud for such a short period of time.
I disagree, there is a very noticeable snare hit on that repeat. I am hitsounding it accordingly.I added a 00:51:780 (1) - NC here because the slider end extends to the downbeat of t he next measure, similar to how I consistency NC'd 00:54:306 (1) - , 00:59:359 (1) - , 01:01:885 (1) -
- 00:25:727 (3,4) - vs 00:26:991 (3,4) -
00:29:517 (2,3) - vs 00:29:833 (4,5) - / 00:30:149 (6,7) - would be nice to fix all these inconsistencies, they will play better for sure. Also, reducing the spacing for 00:30:306 (7,1) - will be amazing
I changed 00:30:306 (7,1) However, because its an extra, I didn't want too much consistency. Too much consistency is boring in my opinion.- 00:51:780 (1) - Why the NC though. Adding one 00:58:412 (2) - there, though, would be cool.
To be fair, some spacing looks extremely random. Most objects feel like they were just threw randomly to "look good". Please, check the spacing and the structure of some patterns if possible.
I completely disagree. Most of the map follows the idea of when there is a snare hit, it has the largest spacing. If not, I usually space it higher to allow emphasis on the guitar or vocal. None of the spacing is random.
Thank you for mod!
To be continued on Friday...
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