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Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220 [Taik

posted 2016-05-06T00:13:29+00:00

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snowball112

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snowball112 2016-07-19T15:13:14+00:00

Heya, mod from pm request

Kantan

Î think it would be better for consistency if 00:26:376 (27,28,29,30) is either d D d D or k D k D because you have similar sounds of 00:26:376 (27,29).
Shouldn't 00:32:922 (34,35,36) be ddd for the drums? I don't see a reason for kdk here, and ddd would be nice for contrast to the high sound on 00:34:013.
How about adding a note on 00:48:740? I think it would fit nicely with the melody to have a 5-note here.
I was kind of expecting a k on 01:11:649 because it's similar to 00:25:285 (25,26,27).
How about 01:05:649 (27,28,29)? The first note feels lower in my opinion and it would be nice for overall dkk d d kdd within 01:05:649 (27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34) imo.
I don't think that ending this diff with the two small notes on 01:50:649 (83,84) is the best option, how about removing both 01:48:740 (80) and move 01:50:649 to 01:49:967 and 01:50:922 to 01:50:376 and change both to D? I think such an ending sounds better with the strongest beats here and if you leave a large enough space by leaving out 01:48:740 it should be fine to play as well imo.

Futsuu

I think you should move 01:44:104 to 01:45:331 and change to D to make this similar to the intro part of 00:11:104 (5,6,7,8,9), why map it differently when the 5 finishers play out perfectly fine.
I think you should change 01:50:376 to D for the strong sound and add a D on 01:49:967 as well to capture the strong beats better, maybe also change 01:50:922 to k for the similar sound to 01:50:649.
I think you could shorten the spinner starting on 00:43:831 to end on 00:44:922 and add a k on 00:45:467, would sound nice imo.
Spread between Futsuu - Muzu feels a bit large because you don't use any short 1/2 patterns or anything in Futsuu, I think you could include some 3-note 1/2 monopatterns somewhere, maybe in the kiai time, eg. add a d on 00:46:285 and k on 00:46:695 and change 00:46:558 to k as well, would sound good for instruments imo. You could also add a k on 00:54:331 or add notes on 00:47:922 or 00:49:013 to increase density a bit more to have a nicer diff spread imo. It doesn't have to be much, but a few 1/2 monopatterns would ensure a much better diff spread imo.

Muzukashii

How about 00:32:922 (88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96) ddkdkkddk or so? I think it would sound good if you have a k on the last note.
I think 00:34:422 should either be moved to 00:34:558 or changed to k, otherwise it conflicts with instruments of 00:34:285 and 00:34:422 to which a clap would fit better.
I think for sounds like 00:46:285 d would fit better, you could also add a k on 00:46:695 for the instrument sound.
I think 00:48:876 would sound better as d, this would be better for emphasis of the pattern of 00:49:013 (16,17,18), I think it makes more sense this way for nicer fit with 00:48:195 (11,12,13) as well where this pattern is emphasised through the spacing.
I think you should shorten the spinner 00:43:831 to end on 00:44:922 and add a d on 00:45:195 and make 00:45:467 (1,2) kk, this fits the instruments better imo and gives better emphasis with a finish on the start of the kiai at 00:46:013.
00:10:012 (4,5,6) ddk fits better imo, clap is on the last note.

Oni

00:10:012 (4,5,6) ddk, see muzu.
I think the triple within 00:18:195 (31,32,33,34) should start on the red tick, not the white because you have a clearer 1/4 sound in the music starting from 00:18:331, I think d ddk would sound better and you could also move 00:18:876 to 00:18:604, you have similar sounds on 00:18:467 and 00:18:604.
I think 00:19:831 (42,43,44,45) would sound and play out better as ddkd, this is because you have the stronger instrument sounds on 00:20:104 and 00:20:376, so it would be better to use k on these to emphasize them more, having k on notes like 00:19:831 (42,43) would only work if you were mapping doubles here to fit the vocal, but this is not the case. I think you should change the repetition of this part in a similar way to the above suggestions for better fit with instruments.
Notes like 00:36:604 and 00:37:558 don't emphasize anything as there is no sound, please remove them and follow the instrument like in your other diffs in this part, it sounds much nicer. And change 00:42:058 (162,163,164,165) 00:42:058 (162,163,164,165) to dk k d, you have high sounds + claps on 00:42:195 (163,164), so k would fit better on these imo.
I think 00:46:285 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) feels off because of some misplaced emphasis, the triple 00:46:831 (9,10,11) doesn't really do much because 00:46:967 (11,12,13) are pretty strong notes that would sound good if they are 1/2 spaced, and there is no 1/4 in the music where you mapped that kdd either. I'd suggest you move 00:46:899 to 00:46:217 and add a d on 00:46:149 for the 1/4 sounds here, then change 00:46:422 (6,7,8,9) to d kdd or d kkd and make 00:46:831 (10,11,12) dkd. You should end up with D ddk d kkd d k d d kkk starting from 00:46:013 which plays out better and fits the instruments better as well imo. Similar with the part starting on 00:55:013.

Light Ura Oni

Kind of similar issue to Oni, triples like 00:46:831 (10,11,12) don't do anything for your map. I think it would sound much better if you remove 00:46:899 and change 00:46:831 (10,12,13) to dkd.
You could also try adding a note on 00:46:763 and make the resulting 7-note stream starting on 00:46:422 ddkdkkd which would fit to the instruments better imo, especially with the suggested 1/2 dkd starting from 00:46:831.
You should move 00:59:172 to 00:59:308, it just sounds strange imo to map 1/4 on 00:59:172 when there is audible 1/4 on 00:59:308 in the music, if you want to keep the long sound emphasis I'd suggest using a 5-note 1/4 here, but I think a finish on 00:59:104 would be nice as well for the strong sound in the music.

Chi's Ura Oni

I think you should use less 1/4 in the part starting from 00:39:467.
00:33:058 (255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263) kkd 3x, notes like 00:33:058 are different to 00:32:922, kkd stacks play better than dkd stacks imo.
00:47:376 (15,16,17,18) kkdkd, you have a high sound starting on the first note of this pattern.
00:17:785 (113,114,115) ddk, this is different to the sound of the triplet on 00:18:331 (118,119,120), so I think you should map these differently to bring out the instruments better.
00:47:785 (20,21,22,23,24) kdkdd sounds better imo, 00:48:058 has a fairly low sound.

Good luck

Ayyri

Topic Starter

Ayyri 2016-07-19T17:38:30+00:00

snowball112 wrote:
Heya, mod from pm request

Kantan
Î think it would be better for consistency if 00:26:376 (27,28,29,30) is either d D d D or k D k D because you have similar sounds of 00:26:376 (27,29). I think D D k D works better here, break wise. Also the pattern itself is consistent.
Shouldn't 00:32:922 (34,35,36) be ddd for the drums? I don't see a reason for kdk here, and ddd would be nice for contrast to the high sound on 00:34:013. This is following the rising tempo with the vocal here, rather than the drums.
How about adding a note on 00:48:740? I think it would fit nicely with the melody to have a 5-note here. Tbh, I don't completely agree with this, nor disagree. Because the break at 00:48:740 - was following the held note at 00:48:195 - but I can also see what you mean by adding a note here. So I will do this, and see what others say.
I was kind of expecting a k on 01:11:649 because it's similar to 00:25:285 (25,26,27). I didn't want to make the pattern to long here, but nevertheless, I have added a k here.
How about 01:05:649 (27,28,29)? The first note feels lower in my opinion and it would be nice for overall dkk d d kdd within 01:05:649 (27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34) imo. Again, I don't entirely agree nor disagree, since the vocal itself is rather consistent in pitch here. But I will change it to d and see what others say.
I don't think that ending this diff with the two small notes on 01:50:649 (83,84) is the best option, how about removing both 01:48:740 (80) and move 01:50:649 to 01:49:967 and 01:50:922 to 01:50:376 and change both to D? I think such an ending sounds better with the strongest beats here and if you leave a large enough space by leaving out 01:48:740 it should be fine to play as well imo. I disagree with this, since it would become inconsistent with the other difficulties. Also I purposely wanted to end the map as k d rather than a finisher spam at the last second.
Futsuu
I think you should move 01:44:104 to 01:45:331 and change to D to make this similar to the intro part of 00:11:104 (5,6,7,8,9), why map it differently when the 5 finishers play out perfectly fine. This pattern was changed at the end due to a mod from Stefan. Since he didn't like the amount of finishers that were in the general area, as well as variation. I have changed it back to the original pattern now.
I think you should change 01:50:376 to D for the strong sound and add a D on 01:49:967 as well to capture the strong beats better, maybe also change 01:50:922 to k for the similar sound to 01:50:649. I disagree with changing 01:50:376 - to D, but it does sound better as a d. As well as I don't agree with adding a D at 01:49:967 - , because I would like the provide a small break after the finisher spam. As for changing 01:50:922 - to k, I disagree with that too. Because it sounds a lot better having a contrast from the k at 01:50:649 - and I would like the keep the last two notes consistent with all of my difficulties, as earlier stated in reply to a point you made in the Kantan.
I think you could shorten the spinner starting on 00:43:831 to end on 00:44:922 and add a k on 00:45:467, would sound nice imo. I don't entirely agree nor disagree, because I want to keep the spinner here consistent in the lower difficulties, and I'd like to have a small break for newer player here. But I do get what you're saying about adding a k at 00:45:467 - so I will do so, and see what others say.
Spread between Futsuu - Muzu feels a bit large because you don't use any short 1/2 patterns or anything in Futsuu, I think you could include some 3-note 1/2 monopatterns somewhere, maybe in the kiai time, eg. add a d on 00:46:285 and k on 00:46:695 and change 00:46:558 to k as well, would sound good for instruments imo. You could also add a k on 00:54:331 or add notes on 00:47:922 or 00:49:013 to increase density a bit more to have a nicer diff spread imo. It doesn't have to be much, but a few 1/2 monopatterns would ensure a much better diff spread imo. Tbh, I don't agree with either of the suggestions that you gave here. So I did some different changes on my own. But I do get what you're saying here. The only problem is that the Futsuu and Muzukashii don't really have a spread issue, since the Muzukashii isn't that much harder than it. (Object density wise, etc.)
Muzukashii
How about 00:32:922 (88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96) ddkdkkddk or so? I think it would sound good if you have a k on the last note.
I think 00:34:422 should either be moved to 00:34:558 or changed to k, otherwise it conflicts with instruments of 00:34:285 and 00:34:422 to which a clap would fit better. I disagree with this. Because the ddkkddkkd was following the vocal here. Also, the last note sounds better as d, since it is following the lower vocal there. Also the other part was following the vocals as well.
I think for sounds like 00:46:285 d would fit better, you could also add a k on 00:46:695 for the instrument sound. Changed.
I think 00:48:876 would sound better as d, this would be better for emphasis of the pattern of 00:49:013 (16,17,18), I think it makes more sense this way for nicer fit with 00:48:195 (11,12,13) as well where this pattern is emphasised through the spacing. Changed.
I think you should shorten the spinner 00:43:831 to end on 00:44:922 and add a d on 00:45:195 and make 00:45:467 (1,2) kk, this fits the instruments better imo and gives better emphasis with a finish on the start of the kiai at 00:46:013. While shortening the spinner here makes sense, having a note at 00:45:195 - does not. Because there is no note that needs to be hit here, since this is a held out sound which was followed by the spinner.
00:10:012 (4,5,6) ddk fits better imo, clap is on the last note. kdk works a lot better, since it emphasizes the difference in pitch between all three notes. (The rise and fall.)
Oni
00:10:012 (4,5,6) ddk, see muzu. I disagreed in Muzukashii too, so no change here.
I think the triple within 00:18:195 (31,32,33,34) should start on the red tick, not the white because you have a clearer 1/4 sound in the music starting from 00:18:331, I think d ddk would sound better and you could also move 00:18:876 to 00:18:604, you have similar sounds on 00:18:467 and 00:18:604. Tbh the rhythm you're implying sounds a bit forced here. Like it's a beat too early. But I will see what others say.
I think 00:19:831 (42,43,44,45) would sound and play out better as ddkd, this is because you have the stronger instrument sounds on 00:20:104 and 00:20:376, so it would be better to use k on these to emphasize them more, having k on notes like 00:19:831 (42,43) would only work if you were mapping doubles here to fit the vocal, but this is not the case. I think you should change the repetition of this part in a similar way to the above suggestions for better fit with instruments. ??? But I am following the vocals.
Notes like 00:36:604 and 00:37:558 don't emphasize anything as there is no sound, please remove them and follow the instrument like in your other diffs in this part, it sounds much nicer. And change 00:42:058 (162,163,164,165) 00:42:058 (162,163,164,165) to dk k d, you have high sounds + claps on 00:42:195 (163,164), so k would fit better on these imo. I disagree with the removal and note changes you suggested here. Because the dk emphasizes the rise in pitch because it doesn't just "happen" there is some lead into the note. As well as the fact that the note changes you suggested for pitch, are quite the opposite of what is being given.
I think 00:46:285 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) feels off because of some misplaced emphasis, the triple 00:46:831 (9,10,11) doesn't really do much because 00:46:967 (11,12,13) are pretty strong notes that would sound good if they are 1/2 spaced, and there is no 1/4 in the music where you mapped that kdd either. I'd suggest you move 00:46:899 to 00:46:217 and add a d on 00:46:149 for the 1/4 sounds here, then change 00:46:422 (6,7,8,9) to d kdd or d kkd and make 00:46:831 (10,11,12) dkd. You should end up with D ddk d kkd d k d d kkk starting from 00:46:013 which plays out better and fits the instruments better as well imo. Similar with the part starting on 00:55:013. I really don't disagree with this pattern. I think the current pattern matches the rise and fall of sound a lot better, rather than removing the 1/4 that you suggested, since it rises at the point. Mapping that as 1/2 does not seem right.
Light Ura Oni
Kind of similar issue to Oni, triples like 00:46:831 (10,11,12) don't do anything for your map. I think it would sound much better if you remove 00:46:899 and change 00:46:831 (10,12,13) to dkd. I disagreed with this in Oni, and I still disagree with this here.
You could also try adding a note on 00:46:763 and make the resulting 7-note stream starting on 00:46:422 ddkdkkd which would fit to the instruments better imo, especially with the suggested 1/2 dkd starting from 00:46:831. Same thing as the move statement.
You should move 00:59:172 to 00:59:308, it just sounds strange imo to map 1/4 on 00:59:172 when there is audible 1/4 on 00:59:308 in the music, if you want to keep the long sound emphasis I'd suggest using a 5-note 1/4 here, but I think a finish on 00:59:104 would be nice as well for the strong sound in the music. Also, same as above.

Good luck Thank you.

Shinsekai-

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Shinsekai- 2016-07-21T15:56:44+00:00

snowball112 wrote:
Heya, mod from pm request

Chi's Ura Oni
I think you should use less 1/4 in the part starting from 00:39:467. ye ik but... KEEP cuz i want follow the sound in this case i use 1/4 for the large sound XD
00:33:058 (255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263) kkd 3x, notes like 00:33:058 are different to 00:32:922, kkd stacks play better than dkd stacks imo.
00:47:376 (15,16,17,18) kkdkd, you have a high sound starting on the first note of this pattern. nice idea... but keep my pattern
00:17:785 (113,114,115) ddk, this is different to the sound of the triplet on 00:18:331 (118,119,120), so I think you should map these differently to bring out the instruments better. mmm... i keep the 1st kkd and the second ddk is better for me
00:47:785 (20,21,22,23,24) kdkdd sounds better imo, 00:48:058 has a fairly low sound. mah i can try...

Good luck ty ty

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Pachiru

osu! Alumni

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Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2016-07-27T19:25:16+00:00

Shine shine little star ♪

Shinsekai-

1,314 posts

Joined November 2012

Shinsekai- 2016-08-03T13:41:21+00:00

this...

Ayyri

Topic Starter

Ayyri 2016-08-03T14:59:18+00:00

[_Chichinya_] wrote:
this...

Shinsekai-

1,314 posts

Joined November 2012

Shinsekai- 2016-08-06T05:23:00+00:00

is DEAD!

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

OzzyOzrock 2016-08-07T19:38:18+00:00

Modding the Ayyri diffs because they're more important to the set... and cuz im murican

[Oni]

00:14:376 (18,19,20) - Can probably be more complex, instead of looking like Muzukashii.
00:22:013 (58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83) - The density in this part is way lighter than what is at 00:17:649 (29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58) - despite being almost exactly the same. You need to keep density matched in these cases.
00:31:013 - ^ similarly applies.
For the kiai idek, you need to map it way different than just triplet spam.

This works to give the part a little more rhythm while not being too hard to make spread with. Something similar can be used for when the song inevitably repeats the melody.
I just noticed you mapped it way more realistically at 01:25:285, not sure why that inconsistency exists
Also it wouldn't hurt to make the KICK K-KICK K-KICK KICK MY FACE parts as doubles

[Muzukashii]

It's just too easy compared to Oni, you'll have to map it according to how Oni is. There are a ton of parts where Oni has some dense 1/4 but Muzukashii sticks to 1/2 instead of throwing in some density, an example being 01:13:558 (119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130) - .

[Futsuu]

Should be changed based on changes to Muzukashii, but overall have less islands. By that I mean note patterns that are surrounded by long breaks, like d _ kdk k _ d, the kdk k doesn't need THAT much to prepare for, so something like d d kdk k _ d would work better.

[Kantan]

Kantan isn't bad, but depending on how high diffs changes with adding more notes, it may end up too easy, in which case you'll probably want less breaks overall.

[Light Ura Oni]

During the first kiais you make the song super hard, but then for the last one it looks like you delete notes by force. You should go for a difficulty build-up instead of that. + I'm not sure what 01:35:785 (91,92,93,94,95,96) - is...
Do you like ddkdk
I think you do

SORRY IF THIS IS A MEAN MOD BUT I MEAN IT'S OLDER THAN PERFUME ISN'T IT? FIXES SHOULD BE EASIER YEAH YEAH GL!

Ayyri

Topic Starter

Ayyri 2016-08-07T21:08:49+00:00

OzzyOzrock wrote:
Modding the Ayyri diffs because they're more important to the set... and cuz im murican hello my fellow californian

[Oni]
00:14:376 (18,19,20) - Can probably be more complex, instead of looking like Muzukashii. Made it k ddk d
00:22:013 (58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83) - The density in this part is way lighter than what is at 00:17:649 (29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58) - despite being almost exactly the same. You need to keep density matched in these cases. Added more triplets.
00:31:013 - ^ similarly applies. ^
For the kiai idek, you need to map it way different than just triplet spam. Talked to you about this on discord and changed some stuff.

This works to give the part a little more rhythm while not being too hard to make spread with. Something similar can be used for when the song inevitably repeats the melody.
I just noticed you mapped it way more realistically at 01:25:285, not sure why that inconsistency exists ^
Also it wouldn't hurt to make the KICK K-KICK K-KICK KICK MY FACE parts as doubles K-KICK.
[Muzukashii]
It's just too easy compared to Oni, you'll have to map it according to how Oni is. There are a ton of parts where Oni has some dense 1/4 but Muzukashii sticks to 1/2 instead of throwing in some density, an example being 01:13:558 (119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130) - . Overall, added more 1/4 and 1/2.
[Futsuu]
Should be changed based on changes to Muzukashii, but overall have less islands. By that I mean note patterns that are surrounded by long breaks, like d _ kdk k _ d, the kdk k doesn't need THAT much to prepare for, so something like d d kdk k _ d would work better. Added some more notes since Muzukashii is a bit more dense now.
[Kantan]
Kantan isn't bad, but depending on how high diffs changes with adding more notes, it may end up too easy, in which case you'll probably want less breaks overall. Same as Futsuu.
[Light Ura Oni]
During the first kiais you make the song super hard, but then for the last one it looks like you delete notes by force. You should go for a difficulty build-up instead of that. + I'm not sure what 01:35:785 (91,92,93,94,95,96) - is... That part is following the slow down rather than the melody, since this is the only time that kind of rhythm happens in the whole song.
Do you like ddkdk Yes.
I think you do Yes.

SORRY IF THIS IS A MEAN MOD BUT I MEAN IT'S OLDER THAN PERFUME ISN'T IT? FIXES SHOULD BE EASIER YEAH YEAH GL! Older than ranked Perfume, yeah. Anyways, thanks man !

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

OzzyOzrock 2016-08-26T02:01:07+00:00

[Light Ura Oni]

00:29:513 - The stop here isn't abrupt enough to ignore notes, and also ties in with the next suggestion
00:29:785 (239) - Making this d, and deleting 00:29:922 (240,242) - gives better emphasis to the jarring rhythm change and lack of melody.
00:30:740 (246,247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257) - I think mapping this part like how you map it earlier is better than this ddd k island stuff.
01:02:513 - Someone's bound to point this sound out, but ignoring it emphasizes big notes well if you were aiming for that.
01:22:013 (327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337,338) - Map this realllly light (1/2) to emphasize the complete change in sound?
01:24:057 (343) - Should be a k to emphasize the third intense sound.
01:25:285 - If there's no difference between this and the melody heard in the first and second kiai, then it should be mapped the same instead of much less dense. Maybe make it kiai as well.
01:35:649 - This spot is still odd to leave empty, the one ahead is fine.
01:41:785 - Same as 01:02:513.
01:48:604 - Doesn't need to be empty, not like it's a big spike, tho tbh not much sense it ramping difficulty up there.

[Oni]

00:29:649 (114,115,116) - I think it's overbearing to have these as finishers in any diff. Also, if it's d d k in Light then obv match it in other diffs.
01:00:740 - No real reason to ignore the song here.
01:13:285 (196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204) - Not having notes like 01:14:172 (203,204) - and instead making an earlier triplet fits the song and the consistency of this pattern a lot more.
01:17:649 (228,229,230,231,232,233,234) - Should just have more notes, as this is a random density drop.
01:22:013 (254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263) - Should be calm, as mentioned in Light, preferably easier than Light.
01:26:649 (12) - This sound is k everywhere else, so K or whatever works; this also lets 01:30:740 (42,43) - be d K which fits much better imo.
01:38:922 - Weird to miss this note.

[Muzukashii]

00:17:649 to 00:35:104 - Spread is awful here, with Muzukashii being nowhere near Futsuu and even containing denser pattern lengths than Oni. Just look through it while comparing it to both Oni and Futsuu.
01:03:467 to 01:20:922 - Is more of the same, but less because for some reason Futsuu is harder here while Muzukashii is easier for some reason?
Lower diffs are fine but will likely end up adjusted somehow through the spread tweaking. Kantan's HP should probably not be the same as Futsuu for the sake of a curve.

Nothing against anything, but I'll likely not come back to this set. I do this for sets where I feel that getting another BN's point of view would yield much greater results than me just showing up again.

GL!

Ayyri

Topic Starter

Ayyri 2016-08-26T18:09:42+00:00

OzzyOzrock wrote:
[Light Ura Oni]
00:29:513 - The stop here isn't abrupt enough to ignore notes, and also ties in with the next suggestion Added onto the pattern before here.
00:29:785 (239) - Making this d, and deleting 00:29:922 (240,242) - gives better emphasis to the jarring rhythm change and lack of melody. ^
00:30:740 (246,247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257) - I think mapping this part like how you map it earlier is better than this ddd k island stuff. Added some 1/2 and made a 5-plet.
01:02:513 - Someone's bound to point this sound out, but ignoring it emphasizes big notes well if you were aiming for that. That's what I was going for.
01:22:013 (327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337,338) - Map this realllly light (1/2) to emphasize the complete change in sound? Decreased density here.
01:24:057 (343) - Should be a k to emphasize the third intense sound. Changed.
01:25:285 - If there's no difference between this and the melody heard in the first and second kiai, then it should be mapped the same instead of much less dense. Maybe make it kiai as well. Honestly, I didn't really want to include it as a kiai, considering it was a part of the rhythm before it. But I have made this area a bit more dense and actually made it a kiai.
01:35:649 - This spot is still odd to leave empty, the one ahead is fine. Changed to kkd.
01:41:785 - Same as 01:02:513. Same response.
01:48:604 - Doesn't need to be empty, not like it's a big spike, tho tbh not much sense it ramping difficulty up there. Changed to ddkdkdk.
[Oni]
00:29:649 (114,115,116) - I think it's overbearing to have these as finishers in any diff. Also, if it's d d k in Light then obv match it in other diffs. The reason that in Light they're not finishers, is because the overall pattern there is different than in this difficulty. In this difficulty, it's more simplified.
01:00:740 - No real reason to ignore the song here. Added a d.
01:13:285 (196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204) - Not having notes like 01:14:172 (203,204) - and instead making an earlier triplet fits the song and the consistency of this pattern a lot more. Removed and changed the pattern beforehand a bit.
01:17:649 (228,229,230,231,232,233,234) - Should just have more notes, as this is a random density drop. This was intended, considering the calmness of the song here versus when this appeared earlier in the song.
01:22:013 (254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263) - Should be calm, as mentioned in Light, preferably easier than Light. Move the later note in the triplet before this point to make a 5-plet.
01:26:649 (12) - This sound is k everywhere else, so K or whatever works; this also lets 01:30:740 (42,43) - be d K which fits much better imo. Changed both parts.
01:38:922 - Weird to miss this note. Was originally intended to show the differences in rhythm here, but added a k.
[Muzukashii]
00:17:649 to 00:35:104 - Spread is awful here, with Muzukashii being nowhere near Futsuu and even containing denser pattern lengths than Oni. Just look through it while comparing it to both Oni and Futsuu. Overall, tried to make things a bit more even.
01:03:467 to 01:20:922 - Is more of the same, but less because for some reason Futsuu is harder here while Muzukashii is easier for some reason? The difficulties are relatively the same for the respective difficulty, but I deleted some minor things just for measure.

Lower diffs are fine but will likely end up adjusted somehow through the spread tweaking. Kantan's HP should probably not be the same as Futsuu for the sake of a curve. I'll see what happens.

Nothing against anything, but I'll likely not come back to this set. I do this for sets where I feel that getting another BN's point of view would yield much greater results than me just showing up again. Thank you!

GL!

MBomb

MBomb 2016-08-26T18:38:23+00:00

what's a kantan

2016-08-26 19:11 Ayyri: bb
2016-08-26 19:11 Ayyri: you can play kantans
2016-08-26 19:11 Ayyri: right
2016-08-26 19:12 - Magic Bomb -: wat
2016-08-26 19:12 - Magic Bomb -: i can play up to like 2.5* on taiko ye
2016-08-26 19:12 Ayyri: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970202 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220 [Kantan]]
2016-08-26 19:12 - Magic Bomb -: good song
2016-08-26 19:12 Ayyri: can you help me make it easier :D
2016-08-26 19:12 - Magic Bomb -: ok
2016-08-26 19:13 Ayyri: thanks bb
2016-08-26 19:13 - Magic Bomb -: 00:19:831 (16,17,18) - isn't this a little hard for a kantan
2016-08-26 19:14 Ayyri: it's all 1/1 plus there's equal amount of space from 00:18:740 -
2016-08-26 19:15 - Magic Bomb -: idk 1/1 at 220bpm seems a bit too hard for me for kantan but meh i barely know anything lmao
2016-08-26 19:15 - Magic Bomb -: at least, outside of kiai
2016-08-26 19:15 Ayyri: i mean
2016-08-26 19:15 Ayyri: that's a valid point
2016-08-26 19:16 Ayyri: i could remove one of the two trips from 00:19:831 - tho
2016-08-26 19:16 Ayyri: between 00:19:831 - and 00:21:467 -
2016-08-26 19:16 Ayyri: considering the part before it
2016-08-26 19:16 Ayyri: there was a measure difference between each note
2016-08-26 19:16 - Magic Bomb -: 00:21:467 (20,21,22) - makes a little more sense to me
2016-08-26 19:16 Ayyri: but that's also why it was a bit more dense
2016-08-26 19:17 - Magic Bomb -: but 00:19:831 (16,17,18) - seems a bit unnecessary to me, just 16 and 18 would be fine
2016-08-26 19:17 Ayyri: yeah
2016-08-26 19:17 Ayyri: removed the one at 00:20:104 -
2016-08-26 19:17 - Magic Bomb -: yea
2016-08-26 19:17 - Magic Bomb -: 00:24:467 - also remove this one i'd say
2016-08-26 19:17 Ayyri: but i will -
2016-08-26 19:17 Ayyri: lol
2016-08-26 19:17 Ayyri: i was just going to say i would keep that one
2016-08-26 19:17 - Magic Bomb -: o right welp lmao
2016-08-26 19:18 Ayyri: since the rhythm changes at 00:25:285 - to much calmer
2016-08-26 19:18 Ayyri: to be much calmer*
2016-08-26 19:18 - Magic Bomb -: hmm, idk, i tend to prefer consistency but yeah
2016-08-26 19:18 - Magic Bomb -: your call there
2016-08-26 19:19 Ayyri: copy and paste consistency is like
2016-08-26 19:19 Ayyri: literally me
2016-08-26 19:19 Ayyri: lol
2016-08-26 19:19 - Magic Bomb -: lmao
2016-08-26 19:19 Ayyri: 00:34:831 -
2016-08-26 19:19 - Magic Bomb -: 00:36:740 (43) - i hate doing points like this but maybe make this a k because the pitch goes up and I like pitch for some reason xd
2016-08-26 19:19 Ayyri: do you think this works better here or at 00:34:558 -
2016-08-26 19:19 - Magic Bomb -: nah
2016-08-26 19:19 - Magic Bomb -: that's definitely better where it is imo
2016-08-26 19:20 Ayyri: aight
2016-08-26 19:20 Ayyri: same
2016-08-26 19:20 Ayyri: also
2016-08-26 19:20 Ayyri: what you said works now, since i decided to remove the note at 00:35:922 -
2016-08-26 19:20 Ayyri: so i changed 00:36:195 - to d so it was k k k
2016-08-26 19:20 Ayyri: which is rather monotonous for what is going on here
2016-08-26 19:20 - Magic Bomb -: yeah fair enough
2016-08-26 19:20 - Magic Bomb -: i was gonna say something like tthat
2016-08-26 19:21 - Magic Bomb -: 00:41:649 (50) - again i'm probably being an idiot but this sounds like it'd be better as a k to me because of pitch
2016-08-26 19:21 - Magic Bomb -: the kkd sounds better to me
2016-08-26 19:22 Ayyri: that works fine
2016-08-26 19:22 - Magic Bomb -: 01:04:831 (35) - removing this sounds better to me, for consistency with earlier or whatever
2016-08-26 19:23 Ayyri: i was just gonna say that lol
2016-08-26 19:24 Ayyri: what do you think of removing 01:04:013 -  ?
2016-08-26 19:24 Ayyri: the 1/1 pattern seems a bit long here imo
2016-08-26 19:24 Ayyri: even if spaced
2016-08-26 19:24 Ayyri: compared to other parts
2016-08-26 19:24 Ayyri: of the same rhythm
2016-08-26 19:25 - Magic Bomb -: well i mean, it sounds fine, but yeah maybe the pattern is a bit long
2016-08-26 19:25 - Magic Bomb -: 01:06:195 (38) - i think it'd sound better to remove this one though
2016-08-26 19:25 Ayyri: 01:09:195 -
2016-08-26 19:26 Ayyri: only reason i didn't suggest that one was because it appears elsewhere
2016-08-26 19:26 - Magic Bomb -: ah right ok
2016-08-26 19:26 Ayyri: but i will do that one instead and have a note at 01:04:013 -
2016-08-26 19:26 - Magic Bomb -: yea
2016-08-26 19:26 - Magic Bomb -: 01:09:195 - i'd say remove this one if you haven't already yeah
2016-08-26 19:27 Ayyri: yeah
2016-08-26 19:27 Ayyri: done :D
2016-08-26 19:27 Ayyri: probably should remove 01:10:558 - too
2016-08-26 19:27 Ayyri: since again, the pattern is longer, as well as boring as d k d k d k
2016-08-26 19:27 - Magic Bomb -: yeah
2016-08-26 19:27 Ayyri: 01:13:013 - removed
2016-08-26 19:28 - Magic Bomb -: yeah
2016-08-26 19:29 - Magic Bomb -: whilst i've been telling you to remove 1/1 patterns mostly i think a k would actually sound nice at 01:20:649 -  xd
2016-08-26 19:30 Ayyri: is it so it follows the same sound as 00:34:831 -
2016-08-26 19:30 - Magic Bomb -: well i mean, that's not what i intended lmao
2016-08-26 19:31 - Magic Bomb -: i just think the sound is pretty strong so yeah
2016-08-26 19:31 Ayyri: then i'd prob change 01:20:376 - to d
2016-08-26 19:31 Ayyri: since that kinda would be relatively consistent with every other diff at these parts :D
2016-08-26 19:31 - Magic Bomb -: Alright fair enough
2016-08-26 19:31 Ayyri: ie
2016-08-26 19:32 Ayyri: in oni it's 2 mono trips
2016-08-26 19:32 Ayyri: well
2016-08-26 19:32 Ayyri: was :D
2016-08-26 19:32 - Magic Bomb -: lmao
2016-08-26 19:32 Ayyri: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/wj7wGCg.png
2016-08-26 19:33 Ayyri: this type of thing xd
2016-08-26 19:33 Ayyri: tbh
2016-08-26 19:33 Ayyri: i think that's it
2016-08-26 19:34 - Magic Bomb -: yeah
2016-08-26 19:34 - Magic Bomb -: basically

Lost The Lights

566 posts

Joined December 2011

Lost The Lights 2016-09-04T21:52:04+00:00

Sup bb.

IRC Mod for Outer Oni

2016-09-04 17:57 Lost The Lights: lemme test this
2016-09-04 17:57 Lost The Lights: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/975165 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220 [Outer Oni]] <Taiko>
2016-09-04 17:59 Ayyri: a
2016-09-04 17:59 Lost The Lights: that was hard
2016-09-04 17:59 Ayyri: isthatbad
2016-09-04 17:59 Lost The Lights: no
2016-09-04 17:59 Lost The Lights: do you want me to help you make it harder?
2016-09-04 18:00 Ayyri: sure
2016-09-04 18:01 Lost The Lights: okay
2016-09-04 18:01 Lost The Lights: lets see
2016-09-04 18:01 Lost The Lights: 00:05:922 - beginning with this
2016-09-04 18:02 Lost The Lights: you have this http://puu.sh/qZZEl/d519479b14.jpg
2016-09-04 18:03 Lost The Lights: change it to
2016-09-04 18:03 Lost The Lights: http://puu.sh/qZZIQ/8a7af4bc4f.jpg
2016-09-04 18:03 Lost The Lights: how you have it right now its awful to play
2016-09-04 18:07 Lost The Lights: done already?
2016-09-04 18:07 Ayyri: is that
2016-09-04 18:07 Ayyri: kkddkkkddd
2016-09-04 18:07 Lost The Lights: no
2016-09-04 18:07 Lost The Lights: its kkkkddddk
2016-09-04 18:07 Lost The Lights: like
2016-09-04 18:07 Lost The Lights: kkddkkkkddddk
2016-09-04 18:07 Ayyri: OH
2016-09-04 18:07 Ayyri: so 4
2016-09-04 18:07 Lost The Lights: i'll zoom in so you can see them more clearly
2016-09-04 18:07 Ayyri: ok
2016-09-04 18:07 Ayyri: sorry
2016-09-04 18:07 Ayyri: i couldn't tell with your SKIN
2016-09-04 18:08 Lost The Lights: its alright
2016-09-04 18:09 Lost The Lights: 00:28:763 - i think a k would fit better here
2016-09-04 18:09 Lost The Lights: but that might just be me
2016-09-04 18:10 Lost The Lights: 00:45:467 (1,2) - please ctrl+g these two
2016-09-04 18:11 Ayyri: why
2016-09-04 18:11 Ayyri: for the last one
2016-09-04 18:11 Lost The Lights: because
2016-09-04 18:11 Lost The Lights: it goes
2016-09-04 18:11 Lost The Lights: from up to down
2016-09-04 18:11 Lost The Lights: even ghm did it
2016-09-04 18:12 Ayyri: aaaaaa
2016-09-04 18:12 Ayyri: i didn't want to start w/ k
2016-09-04 18:12 Ayyri: K*
2016-09-04 18:13 Lost The Lights: there's no problem with starting or not with K
2016-09-04 18:13 Lost The Lights: lol
2016-09-04 18:13 Lost The Lights: 00:48:195 - here
2016-09-04 18:13 Lost The Lights: to 00:50:104 - 
2016-09-04 18:13 Lost The Lights: http://puu.sh/r00ps/3aef195590.jpg
2016-09-04 18:14 Lost The Lights: you even did k d here
2016-09-04 18:14 Lost The Lights: 00:54:195 - 
2016-09-04 18:14 Lost The Lights: js
2016-09-04 18:14 Lost The Lights: 00:53:785 - 00:53:922 - 00:54:058 - 
2016-09-04 18:14 Lost The Lights: add d in those spots
2016-09-04 18:14 Lost The Lights: 00:56:922 - same as the last picture
2016-09-04 18:15 Lost The Lights: 01:02:513 - 01:02:649 - 01:02:785 - notes
2016-09-04 18:15 Lost The Lights: 01:02:922 (187,188,189,190,191,192) - ctrl+g
2016-09-04 18:16 Ayyri: ye
2016-09-04 18:16 Ayyri: most of those
2016-09-04 18:16 Ayyri: i agree with
2016-09-04 18:17 Ayyri: minus the adding of the notes
2016-09-04 18:17 Lost The Lights: welp
2016-09-04 18:17 Ayyri: i wanted that pause D:
2016-09-04 18:17 Lost The Lights: okay
2016-09-04 18:17 Lost The Lights: let me see
2016-09-04 18:17 Ayyri: tfw
2016-09-04 18:17 Ayyri: i'll prob end up adding them anyways
2016-09-04 18:17 Lost The Lights: 01:05:035 - 
2016-09-04 18:17 Lost The Lights: i'm sure you can add a note here
2016-09-04 18:17 Lost The Lights: 01:05:104 (208,209,210) - and change these three into kkd
2016-09-04 18:18 Lost The Lights: 01:09:399 - 
2016-09-04 18:18 Lost The Lights: same
2016-09-04 18:18 Ayyri: what
2016-09-04 18:18 Lost The Lights: oh true
2016-09-04 18:18 Lost The Lights: i added notes
2016-09-04 18:18 Ayyri: 01:45:331 (208,209,210) -
2016-09-04 18:18 Ayyri: shit
2016-09-04 18:18 Ayyri: 01:04:967 -
2016-09-04 18:18 Ayyri: kdkkddk
2016-09-04 18:18 Lost The Lights: yes
2016-09-04 18:19 Lost The Lights: also
2016-09-04 18:19 Lost The Lights: 01:03:740 (188,228) - 
2016-09-04 18:19 Lost The Lights: k both
2016-09-04 18:19 Lost The Lights: 01:11:376 - you have 2 notes here
2016-09-04 18:19 Lost The Lights: 01:12:467 - 
2016-09-04 18:19 Lost The Lights: k
2016-09-04 18:19 Lost The Lights: 01:13:695 - same as before
2016-09-04 18:20 Ayyri: for 01:03:740 -
2016-09-04 18:20 Ayyri: what was the 2nd note
2016-09-04 18:20 Lost The Lights: 01:08:104 - 
2016-09-04 18:21 Ayyri: thanks
2016-09-04 18:21 Lost The Lights: 01:14:376 - from there to 01:15:740 - 
2016-09-04 18:22 Lost The Lights: http://puu.sh/r00Z9/def53e9b8b.jpg
2016-09-04 18:22 Lost The Lights: 01:16:831 - k
2016-09-04 18:22 Lost The Lights: 01:18:058 - same as before
2016-09-04 18:23 Lost The Lights: 01:27:467 - as first kiai
2016-09-04 18:23 Lost The Lights: 01:33:467 - kkk ddd
2016-09-04 18:25 Ayyri: are you gonna say notes again
2016-09-04 18:25 Lost The Lights: if you dont want to add them
2016-09-04 18:25 Lost The Lights: dont
2016-09-04 18:25 Ayyri: okay
2016-09-04 18:25 Ayyri: good :D
2016-09-04 18:26 Lost The Lights: ok for last kiai
2016-09-04 18:26 Ayyri: hell
2016-09-04 18:26 Lost The Lights: 01:35:854 - 01:35:990 - 
2016-09-04 18:26 Ayyri: it's
2016-09-04 18:26 Lost The Lights: add notes there
2016-09-04 18:27 Ayyri: such a weird rhythm
2016-09-04 18:27 Lost The Lights: 01:37:354 - and there
2016-09-04 18:27 Lost The Lights: 01:37:217 - 
2016-09-04 18:27 Lost The Lights: missed that one
2016-09-04 18:27 Lost The Lights: and i'll point some spots where you can make changes to make it harder
2016-09-04 18:27 Lost The Lights: for example, change to d 01:34:967 - 
2016-09-04 18:28 Lost The Lights: 01:36:740 - d 01:36:808 - k 01:36:876 - d 01:36:945 - d
2016-09-04 18:28 Lost The Lights: oh wait
2016-09-04 18:28 Lost The Lights: no
2016-09-04 18:29 Lost The Lights: leave the first 2 as they were
2016-09-04 18:29 Ayyri: wh
2016-09-04 18:29 Lost The Lights: and the last one too
2016-09-04 18:29 Lost The Lights: just change 01:36:876 - to d
2016-09-04 18:29 Ayyri: so just
2016-09-04 18:29 Ayyri: 01:36:876 -
2016-09-04 18:29 Ayyri: a
2016-09-04 18:29 Lost The Lights: 01:37:013 - and this one
2016-09-04 18:29 Lost The Lights: to d too
2016-09-04 18:30 Lost The Lights: 01:37:217 - d and 01:37:354 - d as i told you to add
2016-09-04 18:30 Lost The Lights: 01:37:490 - k 01:37:558 - d
2016-09-04 18:30 Lost The Lights: 01:37:831 - k 01:37:967 - d
2016-09-04 18:31 Ayyri: shouldn't
2016-09-04 18:31 Ayyri: 01:37:354 -
2016-09-04 18:31 Ayyri: be k
2016-09-04 18:31 Lost The Lights: hm
2016-09-04 18:31 Lost The Lights: if you do that
2016-09-04 18:31 Lost The Lights: then 01:37:422 - this one as d
2016-09-04 18:31 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-04 18:31 Ayyri: it is
2016-09-04 18:31 Lost The Lights: now
2016-09-04 18:31 Lost The Lights: here
2016-09-04 18:31 Lost The Lights: 01:43:831 - 
2016-09-04 18:32 Lost The Lights: to here 01:44:785 - 
2016-09-04 18:32 Ayyri: 01:37:558 - k
2016-09-04 18:32 Ayyri: 01:37:831 - d
2016-09-04 18:32 Lost The Lights: GOD DAMNIT PUSH
2016-09-04 18:32 Lost The Lights: http://puu.sh/r01G7/3b513b8251.jpg
2016-09-04 18:33 Ayyri: a
2016-09-04 18:33 Lost The Lights: that doesnt sound good
2016-09-04 18:33 Lost The Lights: the ones you said
2016-09-04 18:33 Ayyri: i changed
2016-09-04 18:33 Ayyri: it
2016-09-04 18:34 Ayyri: dw
2016-09-04 18:34 Lost The Lights: ok
2016-09-04 18:34 Lost The Lights: 01:48:535 - k
2016-09-04 18:34 Lost The Lights: 01:50:922 - and also k
2016-09-04 18:34 Lost The Lights: that's it
2016-09-04 18:34 Ayyri: wtf
2016-09-04 18:34 Ayyri: what you sent
2016-09-04 18:34 Ayyri: sounds weird
2016-09-04 18:34 Ayyri: i think https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/Y8K67P4.png
2016-09-04 18:34 Ayyri: is better
2016-09-04 18:35 Lost The Lights: it fits the laugh
2016-09-04 18:35 Ayyri: nooooooooooooo
2016-09-04 18:35 Lost The Lights: ok you can do that too
2016-09-04 18:35 Ayyri: yay
2016-09-04 18:36 Lost The Lights: ok that's it
2016-09-04 18:36 Ayyri: following that sounds weird imo
2016-09-04 18:36 Ayyri: so
2016-09-04 18:36 Ayyri: D:
2016-09-04 18:36 Lost The Lights: once you do the last stuff
2016-09-04 18:36 Lost The Lights: update
2016-09-04 18:36 Lost The Lights: and i'll test again
2016-09-04 18:36 Ayyri: kkk
2016-09-04 18:37 Ayyri: tom
2016-09-04 18:37 Ayyri: 01:41:922 -
2016-09-04 18:37 Lost The Lights: yes?
2016-09-04 18:37 Ayyri: what should this be
2016-09-04 18:37 Ayyri: zz
2016-09-04 18:37 Lost The Lights: 01:41:785 - 
2016-09-04 18:37 Lost The Lights: this sound is really strong to leave it
2016-09-04 18:37 Lost The Lights: imo
2016-09-04 18:38 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-04 18:38 Lost The Lights: and that triplet
2016-09-04 18:38 Ayyri: there's a note there
2016-09-04 18:38 Lost The Lights: sounds good as ddk
2016-09-04 18:38 Ayyri: a
2016-09-04 18:38 Ayyri: where
2016-09-04 18:38 Ayyri: 01:41:922 -
2016-09-04 18:38 Ayyri: ?
2016-09-04 18:38 Lost The Lights: mhm
2016-09-04 18:39 Ayyri: 01:42:195 -
2016-09-04 18:39 Ayyri: kkkdkdk
2016-09-04 18:39 Lost The Lights: kkddkdk :^)

I'll mod the rest later. EXPECT ME TO COME BACK SOON(tm)

Backfire

3,204 posts

Joined February 2010

Backfire 2016-09-05T18:48:17+00:00

Nice map description

Ayyri

Topic Starter

Ayyri 2016-09-05T21:07:38+00:00

Backfire wrote:
Nice map description

Thank you so much!!

Lost The Lights

566 posts

Joined December 2011

Lost The Lights 2016-09-06T05:31:11+00:00

Rest of the mod

2016-09-06 01:08 Lost The Lights: kantan
2016-09-06 01:10 Lost The Lights: 00:17:104 - 
2016-09-06 01:10 Lost The Lights: if you're gonna have it here
2016-09-06 01:10 Lost The Lights: it should be D
2016-09-06 01:10 Lost The Lights: if you wanna keep it as K
2016-09-06 01:10 Lost The Lights: move it to 00:17:376 - 
2016-09-06 01:12 Ayyri: but
2016-09-06 01:12 Ayyri: that's not meant to follow the vocal
2016-09-06 01:12 Lost The Lights: i know
2016-09-06 01:12 Lost The Lights: where it currently is
2016-09-06 01:12 Lost The Lights: sounds as D
2016-09-06 01:13 Lost The Lights: 01:25:013 - 
2016-09-06 01:13 Lost The Lights: make the slider end there
2016-09-06 01:13 Ayyri: then it'll be D
2016-09-06 01:14 Ayyri: aaaa
2016-09-06 01:14 Ayyri: that would be different than literally
2016-09-06 01:14 Ayyri: every other diff
2016-09-06 01:14 Lost The Lights: the thing is that
2016-09-06 01:15 Lost The Lights: It'll be actually hard to hit the slider and the note after for a beginner player
2016-09-06 01:15 Lost The Lights: since they'll focus on the slider
2016-09-06 01:15 Lost The Lights: and wont have much time to react for the note
2016-09-06 01:15 Ayyri: but sliders are not obligatory to hit
2016-09-06 01:15 Lost The Lights: so?
2016-09-06 01:15 Lost The Lights: it's like spinners
2016-09-06 01:16 Ayyri: :<
2016-09-06 01:16 Lost The Lights: I'm pretty sure
2016-09-06 01:16 Lost The Lights: newyams is going to point that out too
2016-09-06 01:16 Ayyri: ):
2016-09-06 01:16 Lost The Lights: also
2016-09-06 01:16 Lost The Lights: why is this kiai easier than the first one 01:25:285 - 
2016-09-06 01:17 Lost The Lights: it should be backwards imo
2016-09-06 01:17 Ayyri: i had to remove stuff before D:
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: when they were about the same
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: the sr was ~2
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: 2.10
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: that's why
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: i'm saying
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: so
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: ;w;
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: make the first one
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: easier
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: then the 2nd harder
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: it's
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: already
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: realllllllllly easy
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: compare their density
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: imo if you're reaching to the end
2016-09-06 01:19 Lost The Lights: it should get harder
2016-09-06 01:19 Lost The Lights: so you should just
2016-09-06 01:19 Lost The Lights: copy the 2nd kiai and paste it on the first one
2016-09-06 01:19 Lost The Lights: and buff the 2nd one as it is in the first one
2016-09-06 01:19 Ayyri: what
2016-09-06 01:20 Ayyri: do you mean by the last thing
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: basically
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: this kiai here
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: 01:25:285 - 
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: should be here
2016-09-06 01:20 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: 00:46:013 - 
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: and the kiai there
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: should be here 01:25:285 - 
2016-09-06 01:20 Ayyri: i already
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: just move the notes
2016-09-06 01:20 Ayyri: copied and pasted it
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: did you do the same with 00:54:740 - 
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: and 01:34:013 - 
2016-09-06 01:21 Ayyri: not the last kiai
2016-09-06 01:21 Lost The Lights: o nvm
2016-09-06 01:21 Lost The Lights: I forgot it changed the rhythm
2016-09-06 01:21 Ayyri: that one is different
2016-09-06 01:21 Ayyri: in all cases
2016-09-06 01:21 Ayyri: ye
2016-09-06 01:21 Lost The Lights: but
2016-09-06 01:21 Lost The Lights: I would say
2016-09-06 01:21 Lost The Lights: just nerf this one too 00:54:740 - 
2016-09-06 01:22 Ayyri: how come?
2016-09-06 01:22 Lost The Lights: 01:38:376 - why is this different than 01:34:013 - 
2016-09-06 01:22 Lost The Lights: also
2016-09-06 01:22 Ayyri: imo if it comes right after 00:46:013 -
2016-09-06 01:22 Ayyri: it should be harder than that
2016-09-06 01:22 Ayyri: same reasoning with the other two kiais
2016-09-06 01:22 Lost The Lights: mhm
2016-09-06 01:22 Lost The Lights: but you could nerf it a bit
2016-09-06 01:22 Lost The Lights: so its different than the 3rd kiai
2016-09-06 01:23 Lost The Lights: like
2016-09-06 01:23 Lost The Lights: 01:25:285 - this one should be different than 00:54:740 - 
2016-09-06 01:23 Ayyri: it is
2016-09-06 01:23 Lost The Lights: welp
2016-09-06 01:23 Lost The Lights: anyways
2016-09-06 01:23 Lost The Lights: 01:34:013 - 01:38:376 - 
2016-09-06 01:24 Lost The Lights: why are these different
2016-09-06 01:24 Ayyri: i made the 2nd one D
2016-09-06 01:24 Lost The Lights: uh?
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: forgot the melody repeated there
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: xd
2016-09-06 01:25 Lost The Lights: oh
2016-09-06 01:25 Lost The Lights: not what i meant tho
2016-09-06 01:25 Lost The Lights: like
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: o
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: let me just
2016-09-06 01:25 Lost The Lights: you have D  k  d k in the first one
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: copy+paste
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: (^:
2016-09-06 01:25 Lost The Lights: then you have
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: ^^^^^^^
2016-09-06 01:25 Lost The Lights: D  d  k in the second one
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-06 01:27 Lost The Lights: 01:36:740 - add d
2016-09-06 01:27 Lost The Lights: thanks
2016-09-06 01:28 Lost The Lights: pick one
2016-09-06 01:28 Lost The Lights: K here 01:49:967 - 
2016-09-06 01:28 Lost The Lights: D here 01:50:376 - 
2016-09-06 01:30 Ayyri: oh god no
2016-09-06 01:30 Lost The Lights: ?
2016-09-06 01:30 Ayyri: i had to remove those notes for a reason ;w;
2016-09-06 01:30 Lost The Lights: what
2016-09-06 01:30 Ayyri: that made the sr go up a lot aaaa
2016-09-06 01:31 Lost The Lights: how much
2016-09-06 01:31 Lost The Lights: I told you
2016-09-06 01:32 Lost The Lights: ok futsuu
2016-09-06 01:32 Ayyri: 1.97* is scary
2016-09-06 01:32 Ayyri: can it just not go up anymore
2016-09-06 01:34 Lost The Lights: 00:30:263 - 
2016-09-06 01:34 Lost The Lights: a
2016-09-06 01:34 Lost The Lights: you see this
2016-09-06 01:34 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: change it to this
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: http://puu.sh/r1xD9/f3ba3fe85a.jpg
2016-09-06 01:35 Ayyri: ozzy said to do that :v
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: ozzy is a fucking dumbass
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: that's ugly as fuck
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: the strongest vocal is here 00:30:604 - 
2016-09-06 01:35 Ayyri: your rhythm
2016-09-06 01:35 Ayyri: and his
2016-09-06 01:35 Ayyri: sound so weird
2016-09-06 01:35 Ayyri: s t o p
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: lmao
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: that picture
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: is
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: k here 00:30:604 - 
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: and the d here 00:30:740 - 
2016-09-06 01:36 Lost The Lights: the 3rd one
2016-09-06 01:36 Lost The Lights: should be gone
2016-09-06 01:36 Ayyri: so just have a
2016-09-06 01:36 Lost The Lights: from 00:29:649 - to 00:30:604 - should be nothing
2016-09-06 01:36 Ayyri: longer break
2016-09-06 01:36 Lost The Lights: yes
2016-09-06 01:36 Ayyri: nonononononono
2016-09-06 01:36 Ayyri: 00:30:740 -
2016-09-06 01:36 Ayyri: not removing this
2016-09-06 01:36 Lost The Lights: of course not
2016-09-06 01:36 Lost The Lights: when did I say to remove that
2016-09-06 01:36 Ayyri: that's literally where the pattern repeats hOLY
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: umm
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: hello???
2016-09-06 01:37 Ayyri: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/EXhDABz.png
2016-09-06 01:37 Ayyri: WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
2016-09-06 01:37 Ayyri: D:
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: http://puu.sh/r1xJg/107f1386d6.jpg
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: you have THIS
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: turn it into THIS
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: http://puu.sh/r1xJM/8352064cf1.jpg
2016-09-06 01:37 Ayyri: no
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: ?
2016-09-06 01:37 Ayyri: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/VEgmr2V.png
2016-09-06 01:37 Ayyri: this
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: no pls
2016-09-06 01:38 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: 00:30:467 - this does not need a note
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: aaaaa
2016-09-06 01:38 Ayyri: it doesn't
2016-09-06 01:38 Ayyri: sound right
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: welp
2016-09-06 01:38 Ayyri: without a note before 00:30:604 -
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: as long as you have a note here 00:30:604 - 
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: as a k
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: i'm cool
2016-09-06 01:39 Ayyri: neat
2016-09-06 01:39 Lost The Lights: 00:43:558 - 
2016-09-06 01:39 Lost The Lights: this should totally be d
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: no
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: please don't make suggestions about the calm section
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: i really
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: really
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: don't want it to change
2016-09-06 01:40 Lost The Lights: a
2016-09-06 01:40 Lost The Lights: ok
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: you know
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: how much
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: i like calm sections ):
2016-09-06 01:40 Lost The Lights: 00:54:331 - 
2016-09-06 01:40 Lost The Lights: remove
2016-09-06 01:40 Lost The Lights: this is simply not needed
2016-09-06 01:41 Ayyri: okay
2016-09-06 01:41 Lost The Lights: it adds difficulty to the map while Kantan barely has anything here
2016-09-06 01:41 Lost The Lights: 01:03:058 -  same
2016-09-06 01:41 Ayyri: kantan has barely anything anywhere lmao
2016-09-06 01:41 Lost The Lights: 01:11:240 - same here
2016-09-06 01:42 Lost The Lights: it would be better to just follow the vocals for that "YEAH BOI"
2016-09-06 01:42 Ayyri: so
2016-09-06 01:42 Ayyri: 01:11:513 -
2016-09-06 01:42 Ayyri: instead
2016-09-06 01:42 Ayyri: please answer with yeah boi
2016-09-06 01:43 Lost The Lights: lmao
2016-09-06 01:43 Lost The Lights: no
2016-09-06 01:43 Lost The Lights: just leave it as k d k
2016-09-06 01:44 Ayyri: FUCK
2016-09-06 01:44 Ayyri: i'm so disappointed now );;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: lmao
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: i would've
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: if you just said
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: k d k
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: i would be like
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: YEAH BOI
2016-09-06 01:44 Ayyri: fuck you
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: :^)
2016-09-06 01:45 Ayyri: (^:<
2016-09-06 01:45 Lost The Lights: ok lets see
2016-09-06 01:45 Lost The Lights: 01:20:922 - 
2016-09-06 01:45 Lost The Lights: go there
2016-09-06 01:45 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-06 01:45 Lost The Lights: I highly suggest you move 01:21:195 - to 01:21:740 - 
2016-09-06 01:45 Ayyri: i'm here
2016-09-06 01:45 Ayyri: :D
2016-09-06 01:45 Ayyri: how come
2016-09-06 01:45 Lost The Lights: 01:21:740 - is stronger than 01:21:195 - 
2016-09-06 01:46 Lost The Lights: and in my opinion
2016-09-06 01:46 Lost The Lights: gives more emphasis to 01:20:922 - 
2016-09-06 01:46 Ayyri: i wouldn't want to have a note there then
2016-09-06 01:46 Lost The Lights: well
2016-09-06 01:46 Lost The Lights: that works
2016-09-06 01:46 Ayyri: i mean
2016-09-06 01:46 Ayyri: i want the fact that it's calmer there
2016-09-06 01:46 Ayyri: to be emphasized
2016-09-06 01:47 Ayyri: and i wanted a break at 01:21:740 - at least
2016-09-06 01:47 Ayyri: since 01:22:013 - kind of needs to be mapped
2016-09-06 01:47 Lost The Lights: not really
2016-09-06 01:47 Lost The Lights: what i was going to say
2016-09-06 01:47 Lost The Lights: is that for
2016-09-06 01:47 Lost The Lights: 01:22:013 - to 01:22:831 - 
2016-09-06 01:47 Lost The Lights: you just did this http://puu.sh/r1y9s/cc5e6dbcb5.jpg
2016-09-06 01:48 Lost The Lights: since its more calm than in 01:20:922 - 
2016-09-06 01:48 Ayyri: no pls
2016-09-06 01:48 Ayyri: that sounds
2016-09-06 01:48 Ayyri: bad imo
2016-09-06 01:48 Lost The Lights: well
2016-09-06 01:48 Lost The Lights: and what about
2016-09-06 01:48 Lost The Lights: if you add a d here 01:22:695 - with the pattern I gave you
2016-09-06 01:49 Ayyri: sounds a little bit better
2016-09-06 01:49 Ayyri: but my issue is that 01:22:285 - and 01:22:558 - aren't being mapped
2016-09-06 01:50 Lost The Lights: those are not really needed
2016-09-06 01:50 Ayyri: i feel that they are
2016-09-06 01:51 Lost The Lights: hm
2016-09-06 01:51 Ayyri: 01:25:013 -
2016-09-06 01:51 Ayyri: do you want this to end here too
2016-09-06 01:51 Ayyri: ;w;
2016-09-06 01:51 Lost The Lights: would prefer so
2016-09-06 01:52 Ayyri: alright.
2016-09-06 01:52 Lost The Lights: in my honest opinion I think there should be a note here 01:22:422 - 
2016-09-06 01:52 Lost The Lights: but if you wanna leave it as it is it's okay
2016-09-06 01:53 Ayyri: there is one
2016-09-06 01:53 Ayyri: it's a k :v
2016-09-06 01:53 Lost The Lights: no
2016-09-06 01:53 Lost The Lights: like
2016-09-06 01:53 Lost The Lights: in what you originally have
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: actually
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: you have
2016-09-06 01:54 Ayyri: =w=
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: k d kdk
2016-09-06 01:54 Ayyri: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/Y5UrcZ7.png
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: i'm looking for something
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: since you really want to emphasize 01:22:285 - and 01:22:558 - 
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: and
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: i think instead of the d here 01:22:695 - 
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: it could be here 01:22:422 - 
2016-09-06 01:55 Ayyri: why
2016-09-06 01:55 Lost The Lights: as I told you
2016-09-06 01:55 Lost The Lights: 01:22:422 - I think there should be a note there
2016-09-06 01:56 Lost The Lights: do you prefer that?
2016-09-06 01:58 Ayyri: yeah
2016-09-06 01:58 Ayyri: i guess
2016-09-06 01:58 Ayyri: ;;
2016-09-06 01:58 Lost The Lights: okay
2016-09-06 01:58 Lost The Lights: 01:23:104 - 
2016-09-06 01:58 Lost The Lights: this
2016-09-06 01:58 Lost The Lights: sounds
2016-09-06 01:58 Lost The Lights: bad
2016-09-06 01:59 Lost The Lights: can you please
2016-09-06 01:59 Lost The Lights: from 01:23:104 -  to 01:24:058 - 
2016-09-06 01:59 Lost The Lights: do this
2016-09-06 01:59 Lost The Lights: http://puu.sh/r1yD5/069cbf3d15.jpg
2016-09-06 02:00 Ayyri: sure
2016-09-06 02:01 Lost The Lights: thank you
2016-09-06 02:02 Lost The Lights: that should be it for futsuu
2016-09-06 02:03 Lost The Lights: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970203 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220 [Muzukashii]]
2016-09-06 02:03 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-06 02:03 Ayyri: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970203 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220 [Muzukashii]]
2016-09-06 02:05 Lost The Lights: AAAAAA
2016-09-06 02:05 Lost The Lights: wHY ARE YOUR CALM PARTS INCONSISTENT
2016-09-06 02:05 Ayyri: a
2016-09-06 02:05 Lost The Lights: 00:43:149 - 00:43:558 - THESE ARE d k RESPECTIVELY IN FUTSUU
2016-09-06 02:05 Ayyri: other people do not like my calm parts
2016-09-06 02:05 Lost The Lights: AND HERE THEY ARE k d WTF
2016-09-06 02:06 Ayyri: that's why
2016-09-06 02:06 Ayyri: some time ago
2016-09-06 02:06 Ayyri: i literally just
2016-09-06 02:06 Ayyri: stopped.
2016-09-06 02:06 Lost The Lights: wa
2016-09-06 02:06 Lost The Lights: no like
2016-09-06 02:06 Lost The Lights: they are fine
2016-09-06 02:06 Lost The Lights: but you change them in futsuu and muzu
2016-09-06 02:06 Lost The Lights: i'd like to ask why
2016-09-06 02:07 Ayyri: read what i said again
2016-09-06 02:07 Ayyri: :/
2016-09-06 02:07 Lost The Lights: um
2016-09-06 02:08 Lost The Lights: well
2016-09-06 02:08 Lost The Lights: can you just leave it as futsuu?
2016-09-06 02:08 Ayyri: ye
2016-09-06 02:08 Lost The Lights: thank you
2016-09-06 02:08 Ayyri: i already changed it
2016-09-06 02:08 Lost The Lights: 00:45:467 (1,2) - 
2016-09-06 02:08 Lost The Lights: ctrl+g
2016-09-06 02:08 Lost The Lights: that's how you have it in Outer Oni
2016-09-06 02:09 Lost The Lights: 00:54:195 - same
2016-09-06 02:09 Ayyri: uGH
2016-09-06 02:09 Ayyri: i still don't agree with that
2016-09-06 02:09 Ayyri: but i did it there
2016-09-06 02:09 Lost The Lights: welp
2016-09-06 02:09 Ayyri: so
2016-09-06 02:09 Ayyri: yeah
2016-09-06 02:10 Lost The Lights: 01:04:422 - delete to follow vocals
2016-09-06 02:10 Ayyri: alright
2016-09-06 02:10 Lost The Lights: also
2016-09-06 02:10 Lost The Lights: to not repeat kdk too much
2016-09-06 02:10 Lost The Lights: 01:04:558 - change to d
2016-09-06 02:10 Ayyri: i actually just did that :D
2016-09-06 02:10 Lost The Lights: 01:15:604 - 
2016-09-06 02:11 Lost The Lights: delete to not have such a long pattern
2016-09-06 02:11 Ayyri: bothers me that it's not following the vocals anymore though >w<
2016-09-06 02:11 Lost The Lights: 01:24:058 - k here
2016-09-06 02:11 Lost The Lights: the song is strong enough to emphasize it
2016-09-06 02:11 Lost The Lights: also
2016-09-06 02:12 Lost The Lights: don't worry about that note being deleted
2016-09-06 02:12 Lost The Lights: because that break actually fits
2016-09-06 02:12 Lost The Lights: 01:25:013 - 
2016-09-06 02:12 Ayyri: no i know
2016-09-06 02:12 Lost The Lights: slider
2016-09-06 02:12 Ayyri: yeye
2016-09-06 02:12 Ayyri: already did that
2016-09-06 02:12 Lost The Lights: good girl <3
2016-09-06 02:12 Ayyri: thanks :D
2016-09-06 02:13 Lost The Lights: 01:36:195 - 
2016-09-06 02:13 Lost The Lights: change to k
2016-09-06 02:13 Lost The Lights: and
2016-09-06 02:13 Lost The Lights: from 01:36:195 -  to 01:37:149 - http://puu.sh/r1zex/a9ae6dd0bc.jpg
2016-09-06 02:14 Lost The Lights: and i'd recommend to delete this here 01:37:967 - 
2016-09-06 02:14 Lost The Lights: and that's it
2016-09-06 02:14 Lost The Lights: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970987 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220 [Oni]]
2016-09-06 02:15 Ayyri: hold
2016-09-06 02:15 Ayyri: pls
2016-09-06 02:15 Lost The Lights: sure
2016-09-06 02:16 Ayyri: alright
2016-09-06 02:16 Ayyri: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970987 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220 [Oni]]
2016-09-06 02:16 Ayyri: gogo
2016-09-06 02:16 Lost The Lights: i know you dont want me to say anything about the calm part
2016-09-06 02:16 Lost The Lights: but
2016-09-06 02:16 Lost The Lights: 00:36:604 - 
2016-09-06 02:16 Lost The Lights: this triggers me
2016-09-06 02:16 Lost The Lights: just saying
2016-09-06 02:17 Ayyri: but
2016-09-06 02:17 Ayyri: WHY
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: 00:43:285 - as I said in muzu
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: d k
2016-09-06 02:17 Ayyri: 00:38:785 -
2016-09-06 02:17 Ayyri: changing to kkd
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: kk
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: that's fine
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: and also
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: for consistency with other diffs too
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: 00:42:467 - 
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: k d
2016-09-06 02:18 Ayyri: alright
2016-09-06 02:18 Lost The Lights: 00:45:467 (1,2) - you know what to do
2016-09-06 02:18 Ayyri: fldkhjgadhl
2016-09-06 02:19 Lost The Lights: 00:54:195 - this is like Outer Oni, so, my suggestion would be to leave the first note of each triplet
2016-09-06 02:19 Lost The Lights: and change to k d
2016-09-06 02:19 Lost The Lights: 01:25:013 - 
2016-09-06 02:20 Lost The Lights: one sec
2016-09-06 02:20 Lost The Lights: i forgot to tell in muzu
2016-09-06 02:20 Lost The Lights: and probably in futsuu too
2016-09-06 02:20 Lost The Lights: you have to do the same thing with the kiais as in Kantan
2016-09-06 02:21 Lost The Lights: yep
2016-09-06 02:21 Ayyri: aaaaaa
2016-09-06 02:21 Lost The Lights: the 3rd kiais are easier than the first one in all diffs
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: wait
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: at
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: 00:54:195 -
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: in
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970987 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220 [Oni]]
2016-09-06 02:22 Lost The Lights: yes?
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: are you saying to leave the triplets or no
2016-09-06 02:22 Lost The Lights: no
2016-09-06 02:22 Lost The Lights: to remove them and just leave the first note
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: alright
2016-09-06 02:23 Lost The Lights: 01:33:467 - 
2016-09-06 02:23 Lost The Lights: also do it here
2016-09-06 02:23 Ayyri: ye
2016-09-06 02:24 Lost The Lights: once you fixed the thing with the kiais
2016-09-06 02:24 Lost The Lights: tell me
2016-09-06 02:25 Ayyri: aaa
2016-09-06 02:25 Lost The Lights: ?
2016-09-06 02:25 Ayyri: can i just
2016-09-06 02:25 Ayyri: copy+paste
2016-09-06 02:25 Lost The Lights: yes
2016-09-06 02:25 Ayyri: kthnx
2016-09-06 02:25 Lost The Lights: :D
2016-09-06 02:27 Ayyri: I did the thing
2016-09-06 02:27 Ayyri: :D
2016-09-06 02:27 Lost The Lights: kk
2016-09-06 02:27 Lost The Lights: 01:40:149 - 
2016-09-06 02:27 Lost The Lights: note
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: same here 01:34:558 - 
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: you dont want to miss these
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: 01:42:195 - 
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: a
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: 01:02:922 - 
2016-09-06 02:28 Ayyri: i assume
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: did you fix these
2016-09-06 02:28 Ayyri: 01:36:195 -
2016-09-06 02:28 Ayyri: change to k's
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: yes
2016-09-06 02:29 Ayyri: yes i did
2016-09-06 02:29 Lost The Lights: kk
2016-09-06 02:29 Lost The Lights: that's it

GHM I'M COMING FOR YOU... later because I'm tired

ok i'm actually here now

[gh's Inner Oni]

00:04:285 - Honestly, I think instead of kkkkD just having ddd D would fit better. This is just my opinion you can ignore this point.
00:20:513 - d or i'll hate you for life , I think it sounds better as kkddk instead of kkkdk, might just be me.
00:24:876 - ^
00:25:285 - Y E A H B O I
00:39:740 - k d, fits much better than d k for the music, since 00:39:740 - sounds different than 00:39:467 -
00:40:831 - ^
00:54:331 - I think you can just remove this, not needed imo, it gives a much better feeling, also consistency with 01:03:058 - .
01:07:285 - Try d d k k d instead of k d k d k to not repeat the pattern too much, I think it fits.
01:11:104 - I think just leaving the vocals would flow better and also because Y E A H B O I. If you do, change 01:11:649 - to k and 01:11:922 - to d.
01:15:058 - As I suggested in the 2nd point.
01:33:604 - 01:33:876 - 01:42:331 - Remove both, not needed, and gives a better feeling as I said before.
01:36:195 - WHY NO FINISHERS I think adding a finisher to all notes till 01:37:285 - will give this part more emphasis.
01:37:285 - from here to 01:38:104 - just try this, which I think fits better with the music:
01:50:649 - 01:50:922 - d k or k d respectively pls

That's it. Best TRICKL4SH set imo. Good luck! Ari ilu bb

Last edited by Lost The Lights 2016-09-07T01:12:11+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Ayyri

Topic Starter

Ayyri 2016-09-06T05:36:18+00:00

Lost The Lights wrote:

Rest of the mod

2016-09-06 01:08 Lost The Lights: kantan
2016-09-06 01:10 Lost The Lights: 00:17:104 - 
2016-09-06 01:10 Lost The Lights: if you're gonna have it here
2016-09-06 01:10 Lost The Lights: it should be D
2016-09-06 01:10 Lost The Lights: if you wanna keep it as K
2016-09-06 01:10 Lost The Lights: move it to 00:17:376 - 
2016-09-06 01:12 Ayyri: but
2016-09-06 01:12 Ayyri: that's not meant to follow the vocal
2016-09-06 01:12 Lost The Lights: i know
2016-09-06 01:12 Lost The Lights: where it currently is
2016-09-06 01:12 Lost The Lights: sounds as D
2016-09-06 01:13 Lost The Lights: 01:25:013 - 
2016-09-06 01:13 Lost The Lights: make the slider end there
2016-09-06 01:13 Ayyri: then it'll be D
2016-09-06 01:14 Ayyri: aaaa
2016-09-06 01:14 Ayyri: that would be different than literally
2016-09-06 01:14 Ayyri: every other diff
2016-09-06 01:14 Lost The Lights: the thing is that
2016-09-06 01:15 Lost The Lights: It'll be actually hard to hit the slider and the note after for a beginner player
2016-09-06 01:15 Lost The Lights: since they'll focus on the slider
2016-09-06 01:15 Lost The Lights: and wont have much time to react for the note
2016-09-06 01:15 Ayyri: but sliders are not obligatory to hit
2016-09-06 01:15 Lost The Lights: so?
2016-09-06 01:15 Lost The Lights: it's like spinners
2016-09-06 01:16 Ayyri: :<
2016-09-06 01:16 Lost The Lights: I'm pretty sure
2016-09-06 01:16 Lost The Lights: newyams is going to point that out too
2016-09-06 01:16 Ayyri: ):
2016-09-06 01:16 Lost The Lights: also
2016-09-06 01:16 Lost The Lights: why is this kiai easier than the first one 01:25:285 - 
2016-09-06 01:17 Lost The Lights: it should be backwards imo
2016-09-06 01:17 Ayyri: i had to remove stuff before D:
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: when they were about the same
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: the sr was ~2
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: 2.10
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: that's why
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: i'm saying
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: so
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: ;w;
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: make the first one
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: easier
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: then the 2nd harder
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: it's
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: already
2016-09-06 01:18 Ayyri: realllllllllly easy
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: compare their density
2016-09-06 01:18 Lost The Lights: imo if you're reaching to the end
2016-09-06 01:19 Lost The Lights: it should get harder
2016-09-06 01:19 Lost The Lights: so you should just
2016-09-06 01:19 Lost The Lights: copy the 2nd kiai and paste it on the first one
2016-09-06 01:19 Lost The Lights: and buff the 2nd one as it is in the first one
2016-09-06 01:19 Ayyri: what
2016-09-06 01:20 Ayyri: do you mean by the last thing
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: basically
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: this kiai here
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: 01:25:285 - 
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: should be here
2016-09-06 01:20 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: 00:46:013 - 
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: and the kiai there
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: should be here 01:25:285 - 
2016-09-06 01:20 Ayyri: i already
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: just move the notes
2016-09-06 01:20 Ayyri: copied and pasted it
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: did you do the same with 00:54:740 - 
2016-09-06 01:20 Lost The Lights: and 01:34:013 - 
2016-09-06 01:21 Ayyri: not the last kiai
2016-09-06 01:21 Lost The Lights: o nvm
2016-09-06 01:21 Lost The Lights: I forgot it changed the rhythm
2016-09-06 01:21 Ayyri: that one is different
2016-09-06 01:21 Ayyri: in all cases
2016-09-06 01:21 Ayyri: ye
2016-09-06 01:21 Lost The Lights: but
2016-09-06 01:21 Lost The Lights: I would say
2016-09-06 01:21 Lost The Lights: just nerf this one too 00:54:740 - 
2016-09-06 01:22 Ayyri: how come?
2016-09-06 01:22 Lost The Lights: 01:38:376 - why is this different than 01:34:013 - 
2016-09-06 01:22 Lost The Lights: also
2016-09-06 01:22 Ayyri: imo if it comes right after 00:46:013 -
2016-09-06 01:22 Ayyri: it should be harder than that
2016-09-06 01:22 Ayyri: same reasoning with the other two kiais
2016-09-06 01:22 Lost The Lights: mhm
2016-09-06 01:22 Lost The Lights: but you could nerf it a bit
2016-09-06 01:22 Lost The Lights: so its different than the 3rd kiai
2016-09-06 01:23 Lost The Lights: like
2016-09-06 01:23 Lost The Lights: 01:25:285 - this one should be different than 00:54:740 - 
2016-09-06 01:23 Ayyri: it is
2016-09-06 01:23 Lost The Lights: welp
2016-09-06 01:23 Lost The Lights: anyways
2016-09-06 01:23 Lost The Lights: 01:34:013 - 01:38:376 - 
2016-09-06 01:24 Lost The Lights: why are these different
2016-09-06 01:24 Ayyri: i made the 2nd one D
2016-09-06 01:24 Lost The Lights: uh?
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: forgot the melody repeated there
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: xd
2016-09-06 01:25 Lost The Lights: oh
2016-09-06 01:25 Lost The Lights: not what i meant tho
2016-09-06 01:25 Lost The Lights: like
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: o
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: let me just
2016-09-06 01:25 Lost The Lights: you have D  k  d k in the first one
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: copy+paste
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: (^:
2016-09-06 01:25 Lost The Lights: then you have
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: ^^^^^^^
2016-09-06 01:25 Lost The Lights: D  d  k in the second one
2016-09-06 01:25 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-06 01:27 Lost The Lights: 01:36:740 - add d
2016-09-06 01:27 Lost The Lights: thanks
2016-09-06 01:28 Lost The Lights: pick one
2016-09-06 01:28 Lost The Lights: K here 01:49:967 - 
2016-09-06 01:28 Lost The Lights: D here 01:50:376 - 
2016-09-06 01:30 Ayyri: oh god no
2016-09-06 01:30 Lost The Lights: ?
2016-09-06 01:30 Ayyri: i had to remove those notes for a reason ;w;
2016-09-06 01:30 Lost The Lights: what
2016-09-06 01:30 Ayyri: that made the sr go up a lot aaaa
2016-09-06 01:31 Lost The Lights: how much
2016-09-06 01:31 Lost The Lights: I told you
2016-09-06 01:32 Lost The Lights: ok futsuu
2016-09-06 01:32 Ayyri: 1.97* is scary
2016-09-06 01:32 Ayyri: can it just not go up anymore
2016-09-06 01:34 Lost The Lights: 00:30:263 - 
2016-09-06 01:34 Lost The Lights: a
2016-09-06 01:34 Lost The Lights: you see this
2016-09-06 01:34 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: change it to this
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: http://puu.sh/r1xD9/f3ba3fe85a.jpg
2016-09-06 01:35 Ayyri: ozzy said to do that :v
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: ozzy is a fucking dumbass
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: that's ugly as fuck
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: the strongest vocal is here 00:30:604 - 
2016-09-06 01:35 Ayyri: your rhythm
2016-09-06 01:35 Ayyri: and his
2016-09-06 01:35 Ayyri: sound so weird
2016-09-06 01:35 Ayyri: s t o p
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: lmao
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: that picture
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: is
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: k here 00:30:604 - 
2016-09-06 01:35 Lost The Lights: and the d here 00:30:740 - 
2016-09-06 01:36 Lost The Lights: the 3rd one
2016-09-06 01:36 Lost The Lights: should be gone
2016-09-06 01:36 Ayyri: so just have a
2016-09-06 01:36 Lost The Lights: from 00:29:649 - to 00:30:604 - should be nothing
2016-09-06 01:36 Ayyri: longer break
2016-09-06 01:36 Lost The Lights: yes
2016-09-06 01:36 Ayyri: nonononononono
2016-09-06 01:36 Ayyri: 00:30:740 -
2016-09-06 01:36 Ayyri: not removing this
2016-09-06 01:36 Lost The Lights: of course not
2016-09-06 01:36 Lost The Lights: when did I say to remove that
2016-09-06 01:36 Ayyri: that's literally where the pattern repeats hOLY
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: umm
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: hello???
2016-09-06 01:37 Ayyri: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/EXhDABz.png
2016-09-06 01:37 Ayyri: WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
2016-09-06 01:37 Ayyri: D:
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: http://puu.sh/r1xJg/107f1386d6.jpg
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: you have THIS
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: turn it into THIS
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: http://puu.sh/r1xJM/8352064cf1.jpg
2016-09-06 01:37 Ayyri: no
2016-09-06 01:37 Lost The Lights: ?
2016-09-06 01:37 Ayyri: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/VEgmr2V.png
2016-09-06 01:37 Ayyri: this
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: no pls
2016-09-06 01:38 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: 00:30:467 - this does not need a note
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: aaaaa
2016-09-06 01:38 Ayyri: it doesn't
2016-09-06 01:38 Ayyri: sound right
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: welp
2016-09-06 01:38 Ayyri: without a note before 00:30:604 -
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: as long as you have a note here 00:30:604 - 
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: as a k
2016-09-06 01:38 Lost The Lights: i'm cool
2016-09-06 01:39 Ayyri: neat
2016-09-06 01:39 Lost The Lights: 00:43:558 - 
2016-09-06 01:39 Lost The Lights: this should totally be d
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: no
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: please don't make suggestions about the calm section
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: i really
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: really
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: don't want it to change
2016-09-06 01:40 Lost The Lights: a
2016-09-06 01:40 Lost The Lights: ok
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: you know
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: how much
2016-09-06 01:40 Ayyri: i like calm sections ):
2016-09-06 01:40 Lost The Lights: 00:54:331 - 
2016-09-06 01:40 Lost The Lights: remove
2016-09-06 01:40 Lost The Lights: this is simply not needed
2016-09-06 01:41 Ayyri: okay
2016-09-06 01:41 Lost The Lights: it adds difficulty to the map while Kantan barely has anything here
2016-09-06 01:41 Lost The Lights: 01:03:058 -  same
2016-09-06 01:41 Ayyri: kantan has barely anything anywhere lmao
2016-09-06 01:41 Lost The Lights: 01:11:240 - same here
2016-09-06 01:42 Lost The Lights: it would be better to just follow the vocals for that "YEAH BOI"
2016-09-06 01:42 Ayyri: so
2016-09-06 01:42 Ayyri: 01:11:513 -
2016-09-06 01:42 Ayyri: instead
2016-09-06 01:42 Ayyri: please answer with yeah boi
2016-09-06 01:43 Lost The Lights: lmao
2016-09-06 01:43 Lost The Lights: no
2016-09-06 01:43 Lost The Lights: just leave it as k d k
2016-09-06 01:44 Ayyri: FUCK
2016-09-06 01:44 Ayyri: i'm so disappointed now );;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: lmao
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: i would've
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: if you just said
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: k d k
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: i would be like
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: YEAH BOI
2016-09-06 01:44 Ayyri: fuck you
2016-09-06 01:44 Lost The Lights: :^)
2016-09-06 01:45 Ayyri: (^:<
2016-09-06 01:45 Lost The Lights: ok lets see
2016-09-06 01:45 Lost The Lights: 01:20:922 - 
2016-09-06 01:45 Lost The Lights: go there
2016-09-06 01:45 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-06 01:45 Lost The Lights: I highly suggest you move 01:21:195 - to 01:21:740 - 
2016-09-06 01:45 Ayyri: i'm here
2016-09-06 01:45 Ayyri: :D
2016-09-06 01:45 Ayyri: how come
2016-09-06 01:45 Lost The Lights: 01:21:740 - is stronger than 01:21:195 - 
2016-09-06 01:46 Lost The Lights: and in my opinion
2016-09-06 01:46 Lost The Lights: gives more emphasis to 01:20:922 - 
2016-09-06 01:46 Ayyri: i wouldn't want to have a note there then
2016-09-06 01:46 Lost The Lights: well
2016-09-06 01:46 Lost The Lights: that works
2016-09-06 01:46 Ayyri: i mean
2016-09-06 01:46 Ayyri: i want the fact that it's calmer there
2016-09-06 01:46 Ayyri: to be emphasized
2016-09-06 01:47 Ayyri: and i wanted a break at 01:21:740 - at least
2016-09-06 01:47 Ayyri: since 01:22:013 - kind of needs to be mapped
2016-09-06 01:47 Lost The Lights: not really
2016-09-06 01:47 Lost The Lights: what i was going to say
2016-09-06 01:47 Lost The Lights: is that for
2016-09-06 01:47 Lost The Lights: 01:22:013 - to 01:22:831 - 
2016-09-06 01:47 Lost The Lights: you just did this http://puu.sh/r1y9s/cc5e6dbcb5.jpg
2016-09-06 01:48 Lost The Lights: since its more calm than in 01:20:922 - 
2016-09-06 01:48 Ayyri: no pls
2016-09-06 01:48 Ayyri: that sounds
2016-09-06 01:48 Ayyri: bad imo
2016-09-06 01:48 Lost The Lights: well
2016-09-06 01:48 Lost The Lights: and what about
2016-09-06 01:48 Lost The Lights: if you add a d here 01:22:695 - with the pattern I gave you
2016-09-06 01:49 Ayyri: sounds a little bit better
2016-09-06 01:49 Ayyri: but my issue is that 01:22:285 - and 01:22:558 - aren't being mapped
2016-09-06 01:50 Lost The Lights: those are not really needed
2016-09-06 01:50 Ayyri: i feel that they are
2016-09-06 01:51 Lost The Lights: hm
2016-09-06 01:51 Ayyri: 01:25:013 -
2016-09-06 01:51 Ayyri: do you want this to end here too
2016-09-06 01:51 Ayyri: ;w;
2016-09-06 01:51 Lost The Lights: would prefer so
2016-09-06 01:52 Ayyri: alright.
2016-09-06 01:52 Lost The Lights: in my honest opinion I think there should be a note here 01:22:422 - 
2016-09-06 01:52 Lost The Lights: but if you wanna leave it as it is it's okay
2016-09-06 01:53 Ayyri: there is one
2016-09-06 01:53 Ayyri: it's a k :v
2016-09-06 01:53 Lost The Lights: no
2016-09-06 01:53 Lost The Lights: like
2016-09-06 01:53 Lost The Lights: in what you originally have
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: actually
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: you have
2016-09-06 01:54 Ayyri: =w=
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: k d kdk
2016-09-06 01:54 Ayyri: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/Y5UrcZ7.png
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: i'm looking for something
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: since you really want to emphasize 01:22:285 - and 01:22:558 - 
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: and
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: i think instead of the d here 01:22:695 - 
2016-09-06 01:54 Lost The Lights: it could be here 01:22:422 - 
2016-09-06 01:55 Ayyri: why
2016-09-06 01:55 Lost The Lights: as I told you
2016-09-06 01:55 Lost The Lights: 01:22:422 - I think there should be a note there
2016-09-06 01:56 Lost The Lights: do you prefer that?
2016-09-06 01:58 Ayyri: yeah
2016-09-06 01:58 Ayyri: i guess
2016-09-06 01:58 Ayyri: ;;
2016-09-06 01:58 Lost The Lights: okay
2016-09-06 01:58 Lost The Lights: 01:23:104 - 
2016-09-06 01:58 Lost The Lights: this
2016-09-06 01:58 Lost The Lights: sounds
2016-09-06 01:58 Lost The Lights: bad
2016-09-06 01:59 Lost The Lights: can you please
2016-09-06 01:59 Lost The Lights: from 01:23:104 -  to 01:24:058 - 
2016-09-06 01:59 Lost The Lights: do this
2016-09-06 01:59 Lost The Lights: http://puu.sh/r1yD5/069cbf3d15.jpg
2016-09-06 02:00 Ayyri: sure
2016-09-06 02:01 Lost The Lights: thank you
2016-09-06 02:02 Lost The Lights: that should be it for futsuu
2016-09-06 02:03 Lost The Lights: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970203 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220 [Muzukashii]]
2016-09-06 02:03 Ayyri: yes
2016-09-06 02:03 Ayyri: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970203 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220 [Muzukashii]]
2016-09-06 02:05 Lost The Lights: AAAAAA
2016-09-06 02:05 Lost The Lights: wHY ARE YOUR CALM PARTS INCONSISTENT
2016-09-06 02:05 Ayyri: a
2016-09-06 02:05 Lost The Lights: 00:43:149 - 00:43:558 - THESE ARE d k RESPECTIVELY IN FUTSUU
2016-09-06 02:05 Ayyri: other people do not like my calm parts
2016-09-06 02:05 Lost The Lights: AND HERE THEY ARE k d WTF
2016-09-06 02:06 Ayyri: that's why
2016-09-06 02:06 Ayyri: some time ago
2016-09-06 02:06 Ayyri: i literally just
2016-09-06 02:06 Ayyri: stopped.
2016-09-06 02:06 Lost The Lights: wa
2016-09-06 02:06 Lost The Lights: no like
2016-09-06 02:06 Lost The Lights: they are fine
2016-09-06 02:06 Lost The Lights: but you change them in futsuu and muzu
2016-09-06 02:06 Lost The Lights: i'd like to ask why
2016-09-06 02:07 Ayyri: read what i said again
2016-09-06 02:07 Ayyri: :/
2016-09-06 02:07 Lost The Lights: um
2016-09-06 02:08 Lost The Lights: well
2016-09-06 02:08 Lost The Lights: can you just leave it as futsuu?
2016-09-06 02:08 Ayyri: ye
2016-09-06 02:08 Lost The Lights: thank you
2016-09-06 02:08 Ayyri: i already changed it
2016-09-06 02:08 Lost The Lights: 00:45:467 (1,2) - 
2016-09-06 02:08 Lost The Lights: ctrl+g
2016-09-06 02:08 Lost The Lights: that's how you have it in Outer Oni
2016-09-06 02:09 Lost The Lights: 00:54:195 - same
2016-09-06 02:09 Ayyri: uGH
2016-09-06 02:09 Ayyri: i still don't agree with that
2016-09-06 02:09 Ayyri: but i did it there
2016-09-06 02:09 Lost The Lights: welp
2016-09-06 02:09 Ayyri: so
2016-09-06 02:09 Ayyri: yeah
2016-09-06 02:10 Lost The Lights: 01:04:422 - delete to follow vocals
2016-09-06 02:10 Ayyri: alright
2016-09-06 02:10 Lost The Lights: also
2016-09-06 02:10 Lost The Lights: to not repeat kdk too much
2016-09-06 02:10 Lost The Lights: 01:04:558 - change to d
2016-09-06 02:10 Ayyri: i actually just did that :D
2016-09-06 02:10 Lost The Lights: 01:15:604 - 
2016-09-06 02:11 Lost The Lights: delete to not have such a long pattern
2016-09-06 02:11 Ayyri: bothers me that it's not following the vocals anymore though >w<
2016-09-06 02:11 Lost The Lights: 01:24:058 - k here
2016-09-06 02:11 Lost The Lights: the song is strong enough to emphasize it
2016-09-06 02:11 Lost The Lights: also
2016-09-06 02:12 Lost The Lights: don't worry about that note being deleted
2016-09-06 02:12 Lost The Lights: because that break actually fits
2016-09-06 02:12 Lost The Lights: 01:25:013 - 
2016-09-06 02:12 Ayyri: no i know
2016-09-06 02:12 Lost The Lights: slider
2016-09-06 02:12 Ayyri: yeye
2016-09-06 02:12 Ayyri: already did that
2016-09-06 02:12 Lost The Lights: good girl <3
2016-09-06 02:12 Ayyri: thanks :D
2016-09-06 02:13 Lost The Lights: 01:36:195 - 
2016-09-06 02:13 Lost The Lights: change to k
2016-09-06 02:13 Lost The Lights: and
2016-09-06 02:13 Lost The Lights: from 01:36:195 -  to 01:37:149 - http://puu.sh/r1zex/a9ae6dd0bc.jpg
2016-09-06 02:14 Lost The Lights: and i'd recommend to delete this here 01:37:967 - 
2016-09-06 02:14 Lost The Lights: and that's it
2016-09-06 02:14 Lost The Lights: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970987 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220 [Oni]]
2016-09-06 02:15 Ayyri: hold
2016-09-06 02:15 Ayyri: pls
2016-09-06 02:15 Lost The Lights: sure
2016-09-06 02:16 Ayyri: alright
2016-09-06 02:16 Ayyri: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970987 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220 [Oni]]
2016-09-06 02:16 Ayyri: gogo
2016-09-06 02:16 Lost The Lights: i know you dont want me to say anything about the calm part
2016-09-06 02:16 Lost The Lights: but
2016-09-06 02:16 Lost The Lights: 00:36:604 - 
2016-09-06 02:16 Lost The Lights: this triggers me
2016-09-06 02:16 Lost The Lights: just saying
2016-09-06 02:17 Ayyri: but
2016-09-06 02:17 Ayyri: WHY
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: 00:43:285 - as I said in muzu
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: d k
2016-09-06 02:17 Ayyri: 00:38:785 -
2016-09-06 02:17 Ayyri: changing to kkd
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: kk
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: that's fine
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: and also
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: for consistency with other diffs too
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: 00:42:467 - 
2016-09-06 02:17 Lost The Lights: k d
2016-09-06 02:18 Ayyri: alright
2016-09-06 02:18 Lost The Lights: 00:45:467 (1,2) - you know what to do
2016-09-06 02:18 Ayyri: fldkhjgadhl
2016-09-06 02:19 Lost The Lights: 00:54:195 - this is like Outer Oni, so, my suggestion would be to leave the first note of each triplet
2016-09-06 02:19 Lost The Lights: and change to k d
2016-09-06 02:19 Lost The Lights: 01:25:013 - 
2016-09-06 02:20 Lost The Lights: one sec
2016-09-06 02:20 Lost The Lights: i forgot to tell in muzu
2016-09-06 02:20 Lost The Lights: and probably in futsuu too
2016-09-06 02:20 Lost The Lights: you have to do the same thing with the kiais as in Kantan
2016-09-06 02:21 Lost The Lights: yep
2016-09-06 02:21 Ayyri: aaaaaa
2016-09-06 02:21 Lost The Lights: the 3rd kiais are easier than the first one in all diffs
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: wait
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: at
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: 00:54:195 -
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: in
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970987 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220 [Oni]]
2016-09-06 02:22 Lost The Lights: yes?
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: are you saying to leave the triplets or no
2016-09-06 02:22 Lost The Lights: no
2016-09-06 02:22 Lost The Lights: to remove them and just leave the first note
2016-09-06 02:22 Ayyri: alright
2016-09-06 02:23 Lost The Lights: 01:33:467 - 
2016-09-06 02:23 Lost The Lights: also do it here
2016-09-06 02:23 Ayyri: ye
2016-09-06 02:24 Lost The Lights: once you fixed the thing with the kiais
2016-09-06 02:24 Lost The Lights: tell me
2016-09-06 02:25 Ayyri: aaa
2016-09-06 02:25 Lost The Lights: ?
2016-09-06 02:25 Ayyri: can i just
2016-09-06 02:25 Ayyri: copy+paste
2016-09-06 02:25 Lost The Lights: yes
2016-09-06 02:25 Ayyri: kthnx
2016-09-06 02:25 Lost The Lights: :D
2016-09-06 02:27 Ayyri: I did the thing
2016-09-06 02:27 Ayyri: :D
2016-09-06 02:27 Lost The Lights: kk
2016-09-06 02:27 Lost The Lights: 01:40:149 - 
2016-09-06 02:27 Lost The Lights: note
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: same here 01:34:558 - 
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: you dont want to miss these
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: 01:42:195 - 
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: a
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: 01:02:922 - 
2016-09-06 02:28 Ayyri: i assume
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: did you fix these
2016-09-06 02:28 Ayyri: 01:36:195 -
2016-09-06 02:28 Ayyri: change to k's
2016-09-06 02:28 Lost The Lights: yes
2016-09-06 02:29 Ayyri: yes i did
2016-09-06 02:29 Lost The Lights: kk
2016-09-06 02:29 Lost The Lights: that's it

GHM I'M COMING FOR YOU... later because I'm tired

THANKS BB. ♥ ~~Please don't hurt Ghm. ;w;~~

Noffy

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Noffy 2016-09-07T01:11:58+00:00

All these hidden messages we are spies.

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Ayyri

Topic Starter

Ayyri 2016-09-07T01:12:04+00:00

Lost The Lights wrote:
Ari ilu bb

Tom ilu2 bb

tfw LTL and Noffy realize when I wrote.

ghm12

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652 posts

Joined April 2013

ghm12 2016-09-07T04:49:20+00:00

Lost The Lights wrote:
GHM I'M COMING FOR YOU... later because I'm tired that's lewd tbh reported

ok i'm actually here now

[gh's Inner Oni]
00:04:285 - Honestly, I think instead of kkkkD just having ddd D would fit better. This is just my opinion you can ignore this point. as I told ya I may remove the fourth katsu because criteria doesn't really like patterns with finishers, not changing now tho :^)
00:20:513 - d or i'll hate you for life , I think it sounds better as kkddk instead of kkkdk, might just be me. no one likes kkkdk really
00:24:876 - ^ ^
00:25:285 - Y E A H B O I
00:39:740 - k d, fits much better than d k for the music, since 00:39:740 - sounds different than 00:39:467 - grr I'm not so sure about this one. Following the bass sounds nicer imo ;w; also 00:41:104 - is somehow following the melody too :3/
00:40:831 - ^ ^
00:54:331 - I think you can just remove this, not needed imo, it gives a much better feeling, also consistency with 01:03:058 - . sure thing!
01:07:285 - Try d d k k d instead of k d k d k to not repeat the pattern too much, I think it fits. changed to k d k k D instead (man I love this pattern)
01:11:104 - I think just leaving the vocals would flow better and also because Y E A H B O I. If you do, change 01:11:649 - to k and 01:11:922 - to d. I really like how it currently is but map need breaks rip
01:15:058 - As I suggested in the 2nd point. changed
01:33:604 - 01:33:876 - 01:42:331 - Remove both, not needed, and gives a better feeling as I said before. fixed
01:36:195 - WHY NO FINISHERS I think adding a finisher to all notes till 01:37:285 - will give this part more emphasis. finished!!
01:37:285 - from here to 01:38:104 - just try this, which I think fits better with the music: changed
01:50:649 - 01:50:922 - d k or k d respectively pls why do you guys like to put notes where there's no music aaaaaaaaaaa
That's it. Best TRICKL4SH set imo. Good luck! Ari ilu bb

ily <3

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newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-09-11T18:44:43+00:00

Hi, from M4M~

Kantan

I'll leave most of the colour distribution for the recheck. However, I did notice that there's quite a bit of d k repetition in some sections (like the kiai), which isn't the most ideal in creating an interesting colour distribution, so try to change it to have a bit more variety. If you can't think of anything to change tho, I don't blame you since the colour distribution's pretty good rn.

00:08:513 - You could put a hit with a finisher here to match what you had at 00:04:149 (6,7) and to create a difficulty jump going into the next section.

00:08:922 - Felt like this section with the finishers could use a bit more rhythmic variety. There don't have to be any major additions, but perhaps you could add a hit at 00:17:376 to avoid that continuous D D D D.

00:26:376 (39,40,41,42,43) - This part should be a bit more interesting considering that there's much more going on here in the song than at the section 00:35:104 which is more dense.

00:27:467 (40,41,42) - Personally, I found that K d K would work better in this part to match the high vocal part. You also could prevent the forced variety between 00:26:376 (39) and 00:28:558 (41). Maybe even in the Futsuu, the finishers would work better as the other colour.

00:31:831 (45,46,47) - Could also be more dense here.

00:35:104 - This section could be a bit less dense in every difficulty (maybe not the Outer Oni), so that you can avoid having such a high 2/1 frequency in the Kantan and to also avoid ending up with weird rhythms like 00:36:604 (208,209) in the Oni.

00:52:558 - Kinda weird imo how the kiai ends here when it doesn't end at 01:01:285.

01:06:740 (36) - This hit is kinda lonely with the 4/1 surrounding it.

Futsuu

00:00:195 (1,2,3) - You could make this a bit denser since this is the exact same as the Kantan.

00:05:649 (13,14,15,16,17) - ^ For a better difficulty curve with the Muzu.

00:02:104 (5,6,7) - Don't think you should have 1/2 here; it's pretty similar to the Muzu so you can reduce it to 1/1.

00:06:195 (14,15) - Could be similar to 00:01:831 (4,5,6,7) as there's some similar instrumentals between the two.

00:25:831 (62,63) - Ctrl + G would sound nice here, like you had it in the Kantan.

00:29:649 (70,71,72) - Rather than this awkward 3.5/1 rhythm, how about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6064999
I realize that placing stuff on the blue ticks isn't good at the Futsuu level, but it'll smooth out the difficulty gap between the Futsuu and Muzu.

00:34:422 - You could add a hit here for a better difficulty curve with the Kantan.

00:45:467 (1) - Add a finisher like you did with the other diffs?

00:50:922 (20,21,22,23,24) - I personally liked how you had it at 00:59:649 (50,51,52,53,54) cuz it's simpler and a bit less boring in the 1/1 part of the pattern.

01:03:195 (61) - Change to d? It's inconsistent with the higher diffs.

01:05:650 (70,71,72,73) - Difficulty gap is too large between the Futsuu and Muzu here. Add some hits in this area. I'll also mention difficulty curve stuff in the Muzu.

01:09:467 (82,83,84,85) - ^

01:13:285 (93,94,95) - ^

01:11:104 (85,86,87,88) - This is denser than the Oni lel

01:20:240 - Add a hit here for a better difficulty curve with the Muzu, and in general the short portion of 01:19:831 (115,116,117) needs buffing in the Muzu and Oni.

01:22:013 (120,121,122,123,124) - I don't really like how the quiet instrumentals is the densest part of the bookmark section 01:20:922. I'd have the more complex rhythms in the louder parts like 01:20:922 (117,118,119,120). Same in Muzu.

01:34:013 - This last kiai is quite inconsistent with the 1/2 placement and the overall rhythm in comparison to the other three kiais. Now, the last kiai definitely has more going on in the background, but I don't think it means that you shouldn't match to the melody at places like 01:34:831 (163,164) and 01:39:195. This is just one example of how you could make it a bit more consistent with the previous kiais. Same in Muzu.

01:39:467 (179,180,181,182,183) - Could be a bit more difficult, considering this is the end of the last kiai. Adding one hit on any red tick in this rhythm other than 01:40:422 would work.

01:49:285 (202,203,204,205,206) - This isn't as complex as the Kantan.

Muzukashii

As Ozzy said, the Muzu is extremely difficult and creates a poor curve with the two neighbouring difficulties, the gap being too small between the Oni, and too big between the Futsuu. These are caused by frequent occurrences of 1/4 and long 1/2 rhythms. Will cover more specific stuff further down.

00:02:104 (10,11,12) - Inconsistent with 00:06:467 (28,29,30,31). Changing them to either rhythm works, just make them consistent.

00:07:422 - Wouldn't be bad to add a hit here for a slight difficulty increase.

00:17:649 - From this section on the difficulty curve is really bad and needs to be fixed.

00:18:740 (72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79) - The first place that should be fixed; the rhythm between the Muzu and Oni is basically the same, while the Futsuu just has a 2/1 rhythm. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6071078 A 1/2 rhythm of a slightly shorter length than the current rhythm would be more viable to create a better bridge between the Futsuu and Oni. Same at 00:23:104 (98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105).

00:19:831 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89) - Again, this is too similar to the Oni. A less dense option could be something like: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6071159
However, this is kinda different with the way you matched it to the instrumental foundation. 00:24:195 (105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113) is similar, but not as bad because there's no 1/4.

00:25:286 (113,114,115,116,117,118) - This is denser than the Oni.

00:27:058 (121,122,123) - Didn't really see a reason to use 1/4 here; you could make a 1/2 rhythm out of 00:26:649 (119,120,121,122,123).

00:27:468 (124,125,126) - If you're going to use 3/4 rhythms, make sure that you don't make the rhythm right after it too difficult. 00:28:013 (127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138) is way too long and the 1/4 just makes it even harder. I suggest deleting 00:28:422 (133). 00:28:558 (134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) also doesn't make a good curve with the Futsuu, so you should make this slightly less denser.

00:30:263 (145,146) - Don't change the colour of 1/4 rhythms, especially after a confusing rhythm like 00:29:649 (142,143,144,145).

00:32:922 (162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170) - The rhythm here is exactly the same as the Oni; delete 00:33:331 (165).

00:38:785 (182,183,184) - No need for 1/4 in the quiet section of a Muzu imo.

00:46:285 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^ since you didn't have it at 00:50:649 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39). You should place your 1/4 at the high point at 00:47:376 (12) to create a difference between the Futsuu and Muzu, while putting emphasis on it. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6071368 is a possibility.

00:49:149 (23) - Delete this hit to create a better density gap here between and Oni.

00:54:740 - Similar stuff as above in the second kiai.

01:04:558 (105,106,107,108,109,110,111) - Delete either 01:04:695 (106) or 01:04:967 (108). Will smooth out the difficulty curve, but this isn't as major as some of the other stuff.

01:08:922 (130,131,132,133,134,135,136) - ^

01:10:013 (137,138,139,140,141,142) - 01:05:649 (112,113,114,115,116,117) sounded way better imo.

01:12:195 - Similar things as the suggestions at 00:17:649.

01:20:240 (198,199,200) - Maybe make the rhythm consistent with the Oni here.

01:25:285 - Same stuff as first kiai.

01:35:649 (280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294) - Way too long of a 1/2 rhythm; the 3/4 just makes it even harder. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6071477 might be a bit better.

01:35:376 (279) - Change to k like all the other ones?

Oni

00:01:422 (10) - Move to 00:01:695 - ? Pattern lengths will be more similar.

00:02:649 (19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) - Maybe add a bit of 1/2 to make a similar rhythm to 00:00:467 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9).

00:04:831 (31,32,33,34,35,36) - ^

00:10:967 - Wouldn't hurt to add a hit here and even at 00:10:695. Same at similar places in the ending section.

00:14:922 (80,81,82) - ^

00:19:831 (103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110) - I liked how you matched to the vocal part at 01:14:376 (199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206) because it's really clear to hear and still presents a challenge to Oni level players. You can create a similar vocal matched rhythm at 00:20:922 (113,114,115,116).

00:24:195 (134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) - ^

00:26:376 - This section needs to be a bit harder, some parts of the Muzu are more difficult. Especially the beginning half.

00:29:785 (170) - The colour is inconsistent with the Muzu.

00:34:013 (201) - This finisher is inconsistent with 01:19:831 (239).

00:34:285 - Adding a hit here will create some variety from the Futsuu and Muzu. Same at 00:34:695.

00:50:376 - Doesn't make sense how the first half is more difficult than the second half of the kiai imo. They should be pretty similar in difficulty and density.

01:05:854 - Adding a hit here sounds awesome, like how you had it in the Muzu.

01:10:217 - ^

01:21:331 (244,245,246) - Having the 1/4 in this area rather than 01:21:740 (247,248,249,250) matches the instrumentals better.

01:29:649 - Same as first kiai.

01:34:013 - This kiai definitely needs to be more difficult, considering that the Outer Oni ramps up in the last kiai.

gh's Inner Oni

00:00:195 - Really nice beginning <3

00:08:922 (90) - I personally found this really confusing to play and hard to hit because of the huge SV change and the kkD rhythm. Perhaps delete 00:08:854 (89) or change 00:08:649 (86,87) to ks so that it's a bit more playable.

00:15:058 (119,120,121,122) - You should keep this consistent with 00:10:695 (99,100,101,102,103).

00:43:695 (308) - Delete? I think that it'd help bring out the melody a bit better imo.

00:46:013 - The kiai is too easy. The section right after the kiai is harder imo. Ideally, the kiai should be more difficult than the non-kiai parts so try adding a bit more 1/4. I also found that it was similar in difficulty to the Oni. Now, the way you map the kiai is really good, so it's also possible to reduce the non-kiai's density a bit, but I'd still recommend making it harder because of the second reason. Same thing at the third kiai.

Outer Oni

Some parts were unnecessarily mapped in this diff imo.

00:03:672 (37) - Could be deleted, but this isn't what I was talking about when I said "unnecessarily mapped" earlier.

00:06:467 (68,69,70,71) - You should somehow modify the colours of this stream so that these four hits are ks. It sounds much better if you have it like 00:02:104 (20,21,22,23,24).

00:07:831 (88,89,90,91,92,93,94) - This doesn't need to be 1/4. It can simply be 1/2 k d d k.

00:08:376 (95) - No sound here, so I don't think you should have a hit here.

00:25:831 (235,236,237) - This 1/4 felt really sudden amidst the 1/2. I'd just keep this whole thing 1/2.

00:27:331 - You can add a hit here; 1/1 here felt abrupt because of the stuff that's going on in the background.

00:34:285 (328,329,330,331,332) - I personally wouldn't use 1/4 here, and a simple 1/2 could tone it down going into the quiet section. Same at 01:19:967 (369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376).

00:47:376 (20,21,22) - In the Taikocalypse difficulty (when it existed), I really liked the effect Backfire created with 1/6 here. It creates a new, challenging rhythm for Inner Oni; this is also a good alternative to create an expert difficulty instead of always using 1/4 streams. Would also create a bigger gap between the Oni. Same at similar places.

01:04:558 (203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215) - I personally felt like most of the long streams were forced for difficulty in the kiai after-section. For example, 01:04:831 (207,208,209,210,211) could be reduced to 1/2 imo. Same at similar places such as 01:08:922 (246,247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258).

01:38:240 (158) - Would sound better as a d to emphasize the twinkle sound at 01:38:104 (157).

That's all~

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Ayyri 2016-09-15T04:09:48+00:00

newyams99 wrote:
Hi, from M4M~ Hello there!

Kantan

I'll leave most of the colour distribution for the recheck. However, I did notice that there's quite a bit of d k repetition in some sections (like the kiai), which isn't the most ideal in creating an interesting colour distribution, so try to change it to have a bit more variety. If you can't think of anything to change tho, I don't blame you since the colour distribution's pretty good rn. Most of this was intentionally, actually. Because of how fast the song is, repetition would be good for a newer player to read at a faster pace.

00:08:513 - You could put a hit with a finisher here to match what you had at 00:04:149 (6,7) and to create a difficulty jump going into the next section. I actually had a note here since I first mapped this. I only recently removed it due to the SR rising with this type of pattern.

00:08:922 - Felt like this section with the finishers could use a bit more rhythmic variety. There don't have to be any major additions, but perhaps you could add a hit at 00:17:376 to avoid that continuous D D D D. Same thing here too.

00:26:376 (39,40,41,42,43) - This part should be a bit more interesting considering that there's much more going on here in the song than at the section 00:35:104 which is more dense. Pretty much that same thing here too..;___; I added a couple k's though for the vocal.

00:27:467 (40,41,42) - Personally, I found that K d K would work better in this part to match the high vocal part. You also could prevent the forced variety between 00:26:376 (39) and 00:28:558 (41). Maybe even in the Futsuu, the finishers would work better as the other colour. Changed.

00:31:831 (45,46,47) - Could also be more dense here. Added some d's where the vocal sped up.

00:35:104 - This section could be a bit less dense in every difficulty (maybe not the Outer Oni), so that you can avoid having such a high 2/1 frequency in the Kantan and to also avoid ending up with weird rhythms like 00:36:604 (208,209) in the Oni. Honestly, I think this slow section is perfectly fine, as is. There's a relatively good curve for each difficulty here.

00:52:558 - Kinda weird imo how the kiai ends here when it doesn't end at 01:01:285. The second kiai doesn't have a kiai after it. So it's to emphasize the fact that it's the last one. ;w;

01:06:740 (36) - This hit is kinda lonely with the 4/1 surrounding it. Tbh, it's midvocal phrase, so the spacing is justified in terms of what could be followed. Because if I were to add a note to one side, why not the other? Because the vocal is still occurring in both instances. I'll see if adding a d for the higher sound after this works though.

Futsuu

00:00:195 (1,2,3) - You could make this a bit denser since this is the exact same as the Kantan. Added a couple notes.

00:05:649 (13,14,15,16,17) - ^ For a better difficulty curve with the Muzu. Changed.

00:02:104 (5,6,7) - Don't think you should have 1/2 here; it's pretty similar to the Muzu so you can reduce it to 1/1. Changed.

00:06:195 (14,15) - Could be similar to 00:01:831 (4,5,6,7) as there's some similar instrumentals between the two. They're roughly similar, yeah. But not using the same exact pattern twice in a row. I slightly varied it instead.

00:25:831 (62,63) - Ctrl + G would sound nice here, like you had it in the Kantan. Changed.

00:29:649 (70,71,72) - Rather than this awkward 3.5/1 rhythm, how about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6064999
I realize that placing stuff on the blue ticks isn't good at the Futsuu level, but it'll smooth out the difficulty gap between the Futsuu and Muzu. That's literally what I've had for the longest time. =w= But so many people said it was too hard for a Futsuu. So aaaaa.

00:34:422 - You could add a hit here for a better difficulty curve with the Kantan. Changed.

00:45:467 (1) - Add a finisher like you did with the other diffs? OOPS. Changed. D:

00:50:922 (20,21,22,23,24) - I personally liked how you had it at 00:59:649 (50,51,52,53,54) cuz it's simpler and a bit less boring in the 1/1 part of the pattern. Changed.

01:03:195 (61) - Change to d? It's inconsistent with the higher diffs. Changed.

01:05:650 (70,71,72,73) - Difficulty gap is too large between the Futsuu and Muzu here. Add some hits in this area. I'll also mention difficulty curve stuff in the Muzu. Added some notes.

01:09:467 (82,83,84,85) - ^ ^

01:13:285 (93,94,95) - ^ ^

01:11:104 (85,86,87,88) - This is denser than the Oni lel The patterns are different between the two difficulties..=w=

01:20:240 - Add a hit here for a better difficulty curve with the Muzu, and in general the short portion of 01:19:831 (115,116,117) needs buffing in the Muzu and Oni. Changed.

01:22:013 (120,121,122,123,124) - I don't really like how the quiet instrumentals is the densest part of the bookmark section 01:20:922. I'd have the more complex rhythms in the louder parts like 01:20:922 (117,118,119,120). Same in Muzu. Changed? I think.

01:34:013 - This last kiai is quite inconsistent with the 1/2 placement and the overall rhythm in comparison to the other three kiais. Now, the last kiai definitely has more going on in the background, but I don't think it means that you shouldn't match to the melody at places like 01:34:831 (163,164) and 01:39:195. This is just one example of how you could make it a bit more consistent with the previous kiais. Same in Muzu. The melody isn't what's being followed in the last kiai though. It's the faster sound in the background that's only in this kiai.

01:39:467 (179,180,181,182,183) - Could be a bit more difficult, considering this is the end of the last kiai. Adding one hit on any red tick in this rhythm other than 01:40:422 would work. Added a note at the first red tick in this section.

01:49:285 (202,203,204,205,206) - This isn't as complex as the Kantan. ??? Kantan's is easier.

Muzukashii

00:02:104 (10,11,12) - Inconsistent with 00:06:467 (28,29,30,31). Changing them to either rhythm works, just make them consistent. They were purposely made different to show the differences between the two sections.

00:07:422 - Wouldn't be bad to add a hit here for a slight difficulty increase. tfw you said it's too difficult as is.

00:17:649 - From this section on the difficulty curve is really bad and needs to be fixed. Okay.

00:18:740 (72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79) - The first place that should be fixed; the rhythm between the Muzu and Oni is basically the same, while the Futsuu just has a 2/1 rhythm. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6071078 A 1/2 rhythm of a slightly shorter length than the current rhythm would be more viable to create a better bridge between the Futsuu and Oni. Same at 00:23:104 (98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105). Changed.

00:19:831 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89) - Again, this is too similar to the Oni. A less dense option could be something like: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6071159
However, this is kinda different with the way you matched it to the instrumental foundation. 00:24:195 (105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113) is similar, but not as bad because there's no 1/4. Changed.

00:25:286 (113,114,115,116,117,118) - This is denser than the Oni. It's about the same tbh.

00:27:058 (121,122,123) - Didn't really see a reason to use 1/4 here; you could make a 1/2 rhythm out of 00:26:649 (119,120,121,122,123). The vocal was increasing, so that's a justification. But changed it to match with the surrounding patterns.

00:27:468 (124,125,126) - If you're going to use 3/4 rhythms, make sure that you don't make the rhythm right after it too difficult. 00:28:013 (127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138) is way too long and the 1/4 just makes it even harder. I suggest deleting 00:28:422 (133). 00:28:558 (134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) also doesn't make a good curve with the Futsuu, so you should make this slightly less denser. Changed some stuff here.

00:30:263 (145,146) - Don't change the colour of 1/4 rhythms, especially after a confusing rhythm like 00:29:649 (142,143,144,145). I actually really don't want this pattern to change. Because dd feels really uncomfortable here. dk flows a lot better. ;w;

00:32:922 (162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170) - The rhythm here is exactly the same as the Oni; delete 00:33:331 (165). The pattern isn't the exact same. I'd like to keep this consistent with 00:32:922 -

00:38:785 (182,183,184) - No need for 1/4 in the quiet section of a Muzu imo. If there was no 1/4 to emphasize the change in the slow sections, it would be identical to Futsuu.

00:46:285 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^ since you didn't have it at 00:50:649 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39). You should place your 1/4 at the high point at 00:47:376 (12) to create a difference between the Futsuu and Muzu, while putting emphasis on it. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6071368 is a possibility. I agree with the 1/4 part, but slightly modified the pattern you gave me.

00:49:149 (23) - Delete this hit to create a better density gap here between and Oni. Changed.

00:54:740 - Similar stuff as above in the second kiai. Changed.

01:04:558 (105,106,107,108,109,110,111) - Delete either 01:04:695 (106) or 01:04:967 (108). Will smooth out the difficulty curve, but this isn't as major as some of the other stuff. Deleted the second one.

01:08:922 (130,131,132,133,134,135,136) - ^ ^

01:10:013 (137,138,139,140,141,142) - 01:05:649 (112,113,114,115,116,117) sounded way better imo. But they're the same. ;___;

01:12:195 - Similar things as the suggestions at 00:17:649. Changed.

01:20:240 (198,199,200) - Maybe make the rhythm consistent with the Oni here. Actually changed it for the later difficulties.

01:25:285 - Same stuff as first kiai. Changed.

01:35:649 (280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294) - Way too long of a 1/2 rhythm; the 3/4 just makes it even harder. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6071477 might be a bit better. I can agree with the first part of this pattern, but not the latter part.

01:35:376 (279) - Change to k like all the other ones? Don't know if the above pattern was supposed to affect this note, but it did. It's already k.

Oni

00:01:422 (10) - Move to 00:01:695 - ? Pattern lengths will be more similar. Changed.

00:02:649 (19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) - Maybe add a bit of 1/2 to make a similar rhythm to 00:00:467 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9). Added a couple notes.

00:04:831 (31,32,33,34,35,36) - ^ ^

00:10:967 - Wouldn't hurt to add a hit here and even at 00:10:695. Same at similar places in the ending section. I can agree with having a note at 00:10:967 - because of the lead-in, but I'd like to emphasize the finisher at 00:10:558 - , so I don't want to have a note at 00:10:695 - .

00:14:922 (80,81,82) - ^ ^

00:19:831 (103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110) - I liked how you matched to the vocal part at 01:14:376 (199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206) because it's really clear to hear and still presents a challenge to Oni level players. You can create a similar vocal matched rhythm at 00:20:922 (113,114,115,116). Changed.

00:24:195 (134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) - ^ ^

00:26:376 - This section needs to be a bit harder, some parts of the Muzu are more difficult. Especially the beginning half. Added some notes.

00:29:785 (170) - The colour is inconsistent with the Muzu. This is intentional. So there's some difference between the two difficulties here. Since dd is a lot similar than dk.

00:34:013 (201) - This finisher is inconsistent with 01:19:831 (239). Removed.

00:34:285 - Adding a hit here will create some variety from the Futsuu and Muzu. Same at 00:34:695. Added notes at those two places and right before this pattern.

00:50:376 - Doesn't make sense how the first half is more difficult than the second half of the kiai imo. They should be pretty similar in difficulty and density. Actually the first 75% of the kiai is just one pattern. Then a small break, and the last bit of that kiai. There isn't much to expand upon there without becoming inconsistent with the rhythms used in the first verse of the melody here.

01:05:854 - Adding a hit here sounds awesome, like how you had it in the Muzu. Changed.

01:10:217 - ^ ^

01:21:331 (244,245,246) - Having the 1/4 in this area rather than 01:21:740 (247,248,249,250) matches the instrumentals better. Changed.

01:29:649 - Same as first kiai. Same response.

01:34:013 - This kiai definitely needs to be more difficult, considering that the Outer Oni ramps up in the last kiai. I actually tried to mainly use 1/2 patterns here because of the stark difference in rhythm between the second to last kiai, and the last kiai here. But I will add in some more 1/4 for a bit better spread with the Inner Oni here. ~~Because the Outer Oni is just completely different. DD~~

Outer Oni

Some parts were unnecessarily mapped in this diff imo.

00:03:672 (37) - Could be deleted, but this isn't what I was talking about when I said "unnecessarily mapped" earlier. I agree that it can be deleted, but also disagree that it should be deleted. Because that pattern is following the longest held out pattern until the rhythm repeats. It sounds a bit weird to not have it different than the other surrounding patterns. ;__;

00:06:467 (68,69,70,71) - You should somehow modify the colours of this stream so that these four hits are ks. It sounds much better if you have it like 00:02:104 (20,21,22,23,24). Changed.

00:07:831 (88,89,90,91,92,93,94) - This doesn't need to be 1/4. It can simply be 1/2 k d d k. I don't really agree with simplifying this to 1/2 since while part of the music dies away, it still does rise again before the finisher spam.

00:08:376 (95) - No sound here, so I don't think you should have a hit here. Changed.

00:25:831 (235,236,237) - This 1/4 felt really sudden amidst the 1/2. I'd just keep this whole thing 1/2. I mean, I purposely put this here for that effect. Since while the vocal isn't at that part, the background music does change there. But I can see what you mean with this part mainly being 1/2. ;w;

00:27:331 - You can add a hit here; 1/1 here felt abrupt because of the stuff that's going on in the background. Changed.

00:34:285 (328,329,330,331,332) - I personally wouldn't use 1/4 here, and a simple 1/2 could tone it down going into the quiet section. Same at 01:19:967 (369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376). Changed.

00:47:376 (20,21,22) - In the Taikocalypse difficulty (when it existed), I really liked the effect Backfire created with 1/6 here. It creates a new, challenging rhythm for Inner Oni; this is also a good alternative to create an expert difficulty instead of always using 1/4 streams. Would also create a bigger gap between the Oni. Same at similar places. I actually specifically did not want to use 1/6. At all.

01:04:558 (203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215) - I personally felt like most of the long streams were forced for difficulty in the kiai after-section. For example, 01:04:831 (207,208,209,210,211) could be reduced to 1/2 imo. Same at similar places such as 01:08:922 (246,247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258). I don't really agree with this. Because these are longer patterns of the earlier vocals, which are mapped slightly lighter than this since they were earlier in the map. The difficulty of a map is supposed to have an upward curve. Not a stark rise at the kiai, than a fall in between the two melodies.

01:38:240 (158) - Would sound better as a d to emphasize the twinkle sound at 01:38:104 (157). Changed.

That's all~

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ghm12 2016-09-17T23:26:05+00:00

newyams99 wrote:
Hi, from M4M~

gh's Inner Oni

00:00:195 - Really nice beginning <3 thanks ♥

00:08:922 (90) - I personally found this really confusing to play and hard to hit because of the huge SV change and the kkD rhythm. Perhaps delete 00:08:854 (89) or change 00:08:649 (86,87) to ks so that it's a bit more playable. changed to D kkkkD since I find ddk D unfitting

00:15:058 (119,120,121,122) - You should keep this consistent with 00:10:695 (99,100,101,102,103). I hear them as different sounds, with 00:10:695 - being more intense than 00:15:058 -, so it has more notes (one).

00:43:695 (308) - Delete? I think that it'd help bring out the melody a bit better imo. fixed! also changed 00:43:831 - to don because I hate same colour on new white bar ):<

00:46:013 - The kiai is too easy. The section right after the kiai is harder imo. Ideally, the kiai should be more difficult than the non-kiai parts so try adding a bit more 1/4. I also found that it was similar in difficulty to the Oni. Now, the way you map the kiai is really good, so it's also possible to reduce the non-kiai's density a bit, but I'd still recommend making it harder because of the second reason. Same thing at the third kiai. I've changed the d d patterns to ddd. I didn't want to overmap that much in the first to turn the second one harder, but a bit of overmap doesn't hurt

Thanks a bunch!

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Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2016-11-12T17:30:34+00:00

re:m4m
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/470741
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/508800
no kudosu no thank you

[Kantan]

00:00:195 (1,2,3) - / 00:02:376 (4,5) - probably just me being dumb, but I don't understand what makes these different. I recommend you make these sections consistent.
00:17:104 (23,24,25) - Consider nerfing this because 3 color changing 1/1 notes in Kantan is difficult. Also, changing 00:17:104 (23) - this to a K would make it more consistent with the previous pattern, and slightly nerf the pattern together.
00:24:467 (37) - / 00:24:467 (37) - be consistent
00:30:467 - consider adding a don for rhythmic diversity, the gap 00:30:467 - here is really awkward because the note 00:30:467 - here is strong, and really smooth and fun to play
00:46:013 - / 00:52:558 - isn't that a lot of back/forth? Here are some suggestions for fixes: 00:46:558 (2,3) - ctrl+g and 00:49:831 (7) - switch to k
01:46:558 (99) - K for consistency with 00:12:740 (17) - way back
01:47:104 (100) - D same reasoning

[Futsuu]

00:04:558 (12,13) - what makes you want a measure long break here? I'd recommend k 00:05:104 - here.
how is your futsuu so clean owo

[Muzukashii]

00:02:922 (14,15,16) - be consistent with 00:00:740 (3,4,5,6,7) - here. The second time this pattern is played is much easier than the first.
00:05:513 (24,25) - Those are the same pitch and the same type of drum, so I recommend making them the same color. Also, 00:05:104 (21,22,23,24,25) - dkdkd lacks potential here.
00:37:285 (164) - switch to to emphasize the falling pitch 00:36:740 (163,164) - there.
Your kiai seems to be quite a difficulty jump from Futsuu. I recommend you nerf it in some places. Consider removing 00:46:422 (5) - this, 00:49:422 (22) - this, 00:50:786 (30) - this, etc.
00:52:967 (46) - I recommend switching this to K to emphasize the strong rise 00:52:558 (45,46) - here.
01:01:694 (94,95) - ^, at least make it consistent if you decide not to.
01:11:104 (138,139) - be consistent with the other pattern 00:25:286 (107,108) - here.

[Oni]

00:00:604 (3) - / 00:02:785 (20) - be consistent
00:03:058 (22) - / 00:00:876 (5) - ^
00:30:195 - add something
00:41:922 - ^
00:49:831 (35,36,37,38,39) - ddkdk or ddkkk is a better fit here because it helps differentiate 00:49:695 (34,35) - these and 00:49:899 (36,37,38) - these better
00:52:967 (46) - switch to K, same reason as Muzukashii
00:58:763 - / 00:50:035 (38) - / 01:38:035 - be consistent
01:29:103 (304,305,306,307,308) - same as before

Best of Luck~!!

Ayyri

Topic Starter

Ayyri 2016-11-16T04:11:21+00:00

@Jon: For Kantan, the only thing I might apply would adding a note at 00:30:467 - , but even then, it could be confusing because of the stronger vocal at 00:30:604 - , which was mapped to in every other difficulty. I rejected most of your consistency points, because the colors stayed the same, but not the exact pattern, due to what came after them, so it wasn't too dense / confusing for a newer player. As well as the fact that the kiai should be a taaaaaaaad bit harder than the rest of the map, especially with how easy it is here.

For now: No change.

Futsuu, wanted some variation between the patterns, but adding a note there doesn't hurt anything.

So: Added a k at 00:05:104 - .

Muzukashii, wanted variation in the opening, since it repeats a lot. Having everything the same there would make it pretty boring. As well as the fact that some of your changes were suggesting to ignore the kicks, which I didn't want to do. Also didn't agree with your pitch changes, since it's opposite of what the song provides.

Applied: Removing a couple notes in the kiais.

Oni, like in Muzukashii, I don't want to ignore the kicks, or have everything completely the same in the opening, due to the repetition. As well as the fact that I don't want to make the doubles triples, because it would remove the emphasis of the voice clip(s) that the doubles were following. 00:49:831 - Keeping this as kdddk to be simple. ddkdk or ddkkk is hard for an Oni, especially when it's mainly triples, I don't want to break spread with Muzukashii over that. Don't agree with the finishers or pitch changes just like in Muzukashii, especially in the last kiai. Rather than following the melody, I'm following the speeding up and slowing down finishes in the background, since this is the only time that they occur.

So: Didn't apply anything here.

Thanks for the mod!

Stefan

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Stefan 2016-11-18T02:35:40+00:00

[Outer Oni]
Some notes are unsnapped, fix them. (Just go on 1/12 tick and then 'Resnap all Notes' just in case since some notes are off for 1ms)
00:35:104 - you have two green lines here, I assume you should remove the 0.75x because 0.80x fits better for the SV decrease.

So you were asking me via Discord if 00:48:195 - 00:56:922 - or 00:56:922 - 01:03:467 - sounds better and I've got to say that 00:48:195 - 00:56:922 - sounds much smoother and natural to play. 00:56:922 - 01:03:467 - looks really forced with the stream, it's not necessarily bad but I don't really like it. So yeap, that's my opinion.

I've spoke with Ayyri via Discord about the rest of the set and the following points were mentioned:

-) Personally I'd said that Oni may be nerfed to fit better with the spread while Ayyri find that it is (with Outer Oni) the most stable difficulties. Concluding that I accepted this.

-) While she thinks Muzukashii could be buffed, I explained that it's not really required since Muzukashii provides longer Combos, Triplets and even Doublets which really doesn't require any buffing. That'd mean to change Futsuu (and Kantan therefore) to make the spread suitable - which means to make them unnecessary harder than needed. However, maybe Muzukashii could be nerfed slightly? I'd really consider this instead.

-) Decided not to make a in-depth mod because objectively said there aren't a lot of stuff which I would change. It looks kinda pointless to force things when it's not required. Plus, the mapset looks ready for the biggest part which only requires some fine-tuning by some more experienced mappers (in the best case, by BNs).

May sounds like a poor excuse but I neither want to waste mapper's time to read through the post to be honest.

Ayyri

Topic Starter

Ayyri 2016-11-18T02:45:58+00:00

Thanks Fan.

I'll continue to gather opinions on that pattern then. :3

strickluke

433 posts

Joined March 2015

strickluke 2016-11-18T05:32:02+00:00

m4m go!

my map: GameChops & VOIA - Voia's Medley (Undertale Remix)

Suggestions
Unrankable issues

Kantan

00:30:195 (46) - maybe move this to the white tick after it and make it k so that it is similar to this pattern 00:34:831 (53,54) -
00:43:558 (66) - move this to the white tick before it
01:24:195 (64) - shorten this slider to the white tick before it so that the player has 2/1 resting time before the kiai time
01:49:695 (104,105,106,107,108) - change this pattern to something like this (K K D k k)

Futsuu

00:20:376 (47,48,49) - maybe change this to kkk
00:24:740 (60,61,62) - ^
00:28:013 (68) - move this note to 00:27:672 (68) - and make it D like this
00:47:922 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - maybe change this pattern to this
00:56:922 (39,40,41,42,43) - ^
01:13:422 (99) - delet this -_ -
01:13:967 (101) - k
01:49:285 (215) - u should probably change this to D for consistency
01:50:922 (221) - i would personally make this k

Muzukashii

00:20:513 (82) - maybe delete this note for an easier pattern while containing the complex timing of the pattern
00:24:877 (104) - ^
00:33:604 (153) - delete this note so that a Muzukashii-level player doesn't get tired
00:46:558 (6) - delete this note to follow the music better and make it a less difficult pattern
If you followed the last reccomendation, delete 00:50:922 (32) - , 00:55:286 (52) - , 00:59:649 (78) - , 01:25:831 (209) - , 01:30:195 (235) - , 01:38:921 (281) - ,
01:15:058 (153) - delete this note for an easier pattern while containing the complex timing of the pattern
01:19:422 (176) - delete this note because this section of the song is more calm
01:22:558 (193) - ^
01:37:422 (277) - delete this note, it seems too hard for a muzukashii imo but maybe i just suck

Oni

Density mod! kill me please
00:02:308 (17) - delete this
00:06:672 (47) - ^
00:20:376 (114,115,116) - maybe change this to kkk
00:24:740 (147,148,149) - ^
00:47:785 (19) - d
00:49:149 (30) - ^
00:49:899 (36) - ^
00:52:149 (54) - change this to d
00:57:876 (94) - delete this
00:58:695 (100) - change this to d and other patterns like it
01:06:808 (154) - delete this note
01:14:921 (203,204,205) - change this to kkk
01:28:421 (295) - delete this
01:50:922 (436) - maybe change this to k

good luck on rank!

Ayyri

Topic Starter

Ayyri 2016-11-19T23:38:52+00:00

@strickluke: Kantan, didn't accept any of the suggestions here, since they were either removing the emphasis of the sounds that the notes were currently following, or were shortening the held out sounds. (Also breaking consistency with all of my other difficulties, in some cases.)

Futsuu, accepted the kkk suggestion, since it makes the pattern a bit more simple. But the other ones made the patterns a bit oddly spaced / not fitting to the music for newer players. And the finishers are different for the lower difficulties because there isn't one for each sound, due to difficulty constraints. ):

Muzukashii, didn't accept any suggestions here either. Because it made the currently already pretty short patterns, a bit too short for what the spread / song is providing. Moreover, made the existing patterns awkward to play, kind of like what was said for Futsuu.

Oni, like in Muzukashii and Kantan, I didn't accept anything here. Because the notes you were suggestion to be deleted were the higher parts of the pattern, and would sound really weird as a break. Moreover, most of the timestamps that you wanted me to change to a different color were already that color? I don't get that. lol

Sorry for rejecting nearly everything, but thank you for the mod!

Ney

120 posts

Joined February 2015

Ney 2016-11-21T18:33:25+00:00

irc log

11:29 Ayyri: bb
11:29 Ayyri: mod my map
11:30 n1doking: mmmm ok
11:30 *Ayyri is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970202 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220]
11:31 n1doking: i prefer IRC modding if that's ok with you
11:32 Ayyri: sure thing fam
11:35 n1doking: starting with outer oni first
11:35 n1doking: 01:48:195 has a white line error
11:35 n1doking: whoops
11:35 n1doking: 01:48:195 (627) - white line error here
11:35 n1doking: it's applied to fast SV instead of normal SV
11:36 Ayyri: what
11:36 Ayyri: o:?
11:37 Ayyri: http://i.imgur.com/ascu0JW.png
11:37 n1doking: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6624910 still shows up like this]
11:39 n1doking: maybe it will work if you move green line back by 1ms
11:39 Ayyri: mm
11:39 Ayyri: try
11:39 Ayyri: it at 01:48:058 -
11:39 Ayyri: and tell me if it fixes it for you
11:39 Ayyri: owo
11:39 n1doking: yep it works
11:39 Ayyri: aight
11:41 n1doking: 00:12:740 (117,118) - maybe ctrl+G since 118's pitch is lower here and the C is emphasized more than the note after it
11:41 n1doking: same would go for similar parts after it like 00:17:104 (139,140) -
11:41 Ayyri: K's are for the separate vocal, not the main one that the D's are following
11:42 n1doking: ah i see
11:42 Ayyri: having more K's would remove that emphasis
11:42 n1doking: 00:20:035 (168) - change to k to stay consistent with the 'speed' vocal here
11:43 n1doking: also would play better imo
11:45 Ayyri: agree
11:45 n1doking: same thing for 00:24:399 (216) -
11:48 Ayyri: done
11:48 n1doking: 01:42:604 (599) - not sure why this is a k
11:49 Ayyri: it has the same pitch as 01:42:467 -
11:49 Ayyri: and as well as plays better than kdd D
11:49 n1doking: true
11:49 n1doking: i think that's it for outer oni
11:49 n1doking: can't find much else to change
11:49 Ayyri: yay

11:50 n1doking: i'll focus on your difficulties for this mod
11:50 n1doking: so moving on to oni
11:50 Ayyri: aye
11:51 n1doking: 00:03:058 (22) - change to k to keep consistent with the pattern before it
11:51 n1doking: pretty sure it has the same sound played here
11:52 Ayyri: it is
11:52 Ayyri: kinda wanted variation from 00:03:740 -
11:52 Ayyri: since they're relatively close
11:52 Ayyri: but i don't really mind changing it lol
11:52 n1doking: gotcha
11:54 n1doking: 00:22:285 (128) - change to k for consistency
11:54 n1doking: think you already have enough variation with the staggered triplets after
11:55 Ayyri: agree
11:57 n1doking: 01:21:195 (248) - maybe change to d so it plays better?
11:57 n1doking: also would give emphasis to the triple after
12:00 Ayyri: so idm changing it xd
12:00 n1doking: have nothing else for this diff
12:00 n1doking: on to muzu
12:01 Ayyri: oki
12:02 n1doking: 00:32:922 (148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156) - dkdkdkdkd like the two diffs above it?
12:02 Ayyri: ddkkddkkd to be simple
12:02 Ayyri: dkdkdkdkd is a bit hard for this kind of diff
12:02 Ayyri: considering the bpm + density
12:02 Ayyri: longer patterns, etc
12:03 n1doking: i see
12:05 Ayyri: aye
12:06 n1doking: 00:26:649 (111) - maybe change to d for inclusion of the lower vocal track here
12:08 Ayyri: sure

12:08 n1doking: these diffs are pretty solid already lmao
12:09 n1doking: can't find anything to comment on
12:09 n1doking: on to futsuu
12:12 n1doking: 01:14:376 (104) - section starting here is inconsistent with the same patterns near the start of the song
12:13 n1doking: also the consecutive 1/2 triples seem to be more difficult than the kiais
12:13 Ayyri: it's supposed to be a bit denser than before owo
12:13 n1doking: if you want to make this easier
12:13 n1doking: 01:13:422 (99) - remove
12:14 Ayyri: ye, just did that
12:14 n1doking: and have same k d kkk pattern starting at 01:14:376 (104)
12:14 Ayyri: 01:13:285 - making d k
12:15 Ayyri: aight
12:17 n1doking: moving on to kantan
12:18 Ayyri: oki
12:18 Ayyri: cuz sr fucks it over
12:18 Ayyri: ):
12:18 Ayyri: the one really easy diff
12:18 n1doking: brb in a few minutes
12:19 n1doking: doing something with dad real quick
12:21 Ayyri: aight
12:21 Ayyri: have fun
12:25 n1doking: back
12:26 Ayyri: welcome back!
12:27 n1doking: thanks lol
12:27 Ayyri: np xd
12:27 n1doking: checked over kantan
12:27 n1doking: i don't see anything worth changing so
12:27 n1doking: mod complete i guess lmao
12:31 Ayyri: aight :p

Pachiru

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Pachiru 2016-11-21T19:56:20+00:00

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Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2016-11-22T17:13:51+00:00

Here is an IRC log regarding the SV changes in Outer Oni and some spread issues between Kantan and Futsuu.

IRC check with Ayyri, Nov 23, 2016

00:19 Ayyri: nardo
00:19 Ayyri: can i ask you to test something?
00:21 Nardoxyribonucleic: hmm okay, but I can't play something that is too hard like complex streams and high bpm maps x_x
00:22 Ayyri: mm
00:22 Ayyri: it might be a challenege?
00:22 Ayyri: unsure xD
00:22 *Ayyri is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/975165 Lite Show Magic (t+pazolite vs C-Show) - TRICKL4SH 220]
00:22 Ayyri: i wanted to know if you think the sv changes flow alright in the top diff
00:22 Ayyri: in play, obv
00:25 Ayyri: ;w;
00:28 Ayyri: ;w;7
00:33 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:50:649 (647,648) - the SV here looks a bit unnatural
00:34 Ayyri: how it slows down?
00:34 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yeah. Maybe try 1.25x at 01:50:649 -
00:35 Ayyri: and anything for 01:50:922 - ? or still 1.25x?
00:35 Nardoxyribonucleic: still 1.25x would be fine
00:36 Ayyri: ye
00:36 Ayyri: that fits nicely
00:41 Ayyri: also hm
00:41 Ayyri: can i ask your opinion on smth?
00:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: hm?
00:41 Ayyri: do you think the kantan is too easy, compared to the futsuu?
00:42 Ayyri: cuz the bpm makes the sr high :<
00:42 Nardoxyribonucleic: About the SV you may also try gradual slowdown for 00:34:285 (324,325,326,327,328) -
00:42 Nardoxyribonucleic: 1.0->0.8 looks abrupt here
00:42 Ayyri: agree
00:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: especially when the pace is slower at 00:34:285 - compared to the previous session
00:44 Ayyri: 00:34:285 - did [http://i.imgur.com/36jEr4Z.png this]
00:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: you may try something like [http://puu.sh/sqSco.png this]
00:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: the transition would be smoother
00:48 Ayyri: ye
00:48 Ayyri: that works
00:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: The gap between Kantan and Futsuu is a bit wide in sessions like 01:03:467 - 01:12:195 -
00:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: Also try to use a bit more 1/1 notes for the kiais in Kantan
00:52 Ayyri: i had to remove a lot to make it under 2* ):
00:53 Nardoxyribonucleic: It is possible to keep it <2 stars after addition of 1/1 notes
00:54 Ayyri: can you give an example of a couple? D:
00:56 Nardoxyribonucleic: e.g. add k at 00:46:831 - 00:55:558 - 01:26:104 - ; add d at 01:04:831 - 01:09:195 -
00:58 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hint: do not add notes near the irregular rhythms i.e. 00:52:558 (14,15,16,17) -
00:58 Ayyri: o:
00:58 Nardoxyribonucleic: still 1.86 stars after these additions
00:58 Ayyri: it always sounded weird to me to not have a k at like 00:47:376 - or 00:56:104 -
01:04 Nardoxyribonucleic: If you really want to map that sound, try to think of another spot for the 4/1 break
01:05 Ayyri: within the kiai? o:
01:05 Ayyri: i guess i can be content with just having it for the second verse
01:05 Ayyri: like 00:51:740 - and 01:00:467 -
01:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: yes, somehow as variation
01:06 Ayyri: aye
01:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: so try to reduce such gaps in the rest of the diffs
01:07 Ayyri: from what others have said
01:07 Ayyri: that was the only diff gap
01:07 Ayyri: owo
01:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hope I have addressed your concerns now :3
01:08 Ayyri: yeah!

Good luck~

Ayyri

Topic Starter

Ayyri 2016-12-01T00:35:37+00:00

Update: TRICKL4SH 220 was announced for SOUND VOLTEX IV HEAVENLY HAVEN, so that will be added to the source field.

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